the way the video skips around the 45mins mark is too fishy.. i think it has been edited... not sure by whom but it was at a crucial part of borther Bassam's opening statement which would have clarified alot. Does anyone know if there is a cleaner version??
White is beating around the bush, Islam is your salvation and trinity or paganaism is your condemnation. He keep on through out the debate saying muslims especially Dr Zakir Naik misrepresent his belief, but he cannot specify what belief if he meant the trinity then he has to explain it to us.
His degrees include: the A.B. with distinction in Philosophy (Cornell University), B.L.S. and M.A. (University of California), B.D. and S.T.M. (Wittenberg University), LL.B. (La Salle Extension University), M. Phil. in Law (University of Essex), Ph.D. (University of Chicago), Th.D. Doctorat d'Universite (University of Strasbourg), LLM and LLD in canon law (Cardiff University). He also holds an honorary doctorate awarded in 1999.
if dr. white is saying that christian believes that Yahweh, Jesus and Holy Ghost are all One God always, Who were seen as One Entity by the Angels of God, and when this One Entity wanted to interact with man on earth, He projected Jesus, and when to create He projected Holy Ghost, while the Father projection remains except the few times He walked with Abraham, is that not confusing when God is not actually the Author of confusion, while Allah says Jesus & Holy Spirit are both servants of Allah
Genesis 18 , Three Visitors come to Abraham, He greets the group of three visitors without choosing one of the three and leaving the two out. He greets the group of three visitors as "Lord" and as addressed, twice the three visitors respond in unison of voice , speaking by three as one. This means God as One yet holds inside of God, the power to be Father, Son, Holy Spirit, to be Seven Archangels all inside God, to be all powers and principalities, and yet God remains Himself One.
Genesis 18 , Three Visitors come to Abraham, He greets the group of three visitors without choosing one of the three and leaving the two out. He greets the group of three visitors as "Lord" and as addressed, twice the three visitors respond in unison of voice , speaking by three as one. This means God as One yet holds inside of God, the power to be Father, Son, Holy Spirit, to be Seven Archangels all inside God, to be all powers and principalities, and yet God remains Himself One.
James White is a joke, his debating style is to duck, dodge, use abstract information and thought to defend his points. Most Annoying debater on the planet, in fact he's not even a debater, he can't defend arguments except with challenging the debater with a question he poseslike in a courtroom. Ma'am was the offender wearing a green jacket or a black jacket? can you be sure ma'am? it was getting dark you know? did you clean your glasses, are you sure? etc etc etc
@takewhole I AGREE. james white is an ARROGANT non-debater, he subconsciously thinks Debate is a COURT ROOM. Is he a lawyer? None of the Gospels can survive in Court of Law, they are anonymous and contradictory.
Christianity totally FAILS the Court of Law, they blame their CRIMES upon another man (Jesus) who is completely INNOCENT. Even the (Roman) authority Pilate said "I find him INNOCENT". Christianity would fall into PERJURY.
@almao2006 I'm a Christian and I don't believe the pope is Divine, this is blasphemy. True Christianity is when a person obeys the gospel of Jesus Christ. Both Islam and the catholic church have false teachings, but Islam is the worst. Islam is the most blasphemous religion on earth. Islam is a religion of Satan. All Muslims need to come to the Lord Jesus Christ.
@MrRooper100 so i guess it was "satan" who inspired surah mary,where it calls her the greatest woman to set foot on earth,was it "satan" who told muslims to believe in jesus as a true prophet and the messiah and to pray to the one true god of abraham,think!!!!!!!
By saying dont say three, any christian knows that the quran is refuting the trinity and the quran dont have to say that catholics says this and new born says that....
Every single christian is Unique. Everytime you corner them, they say we dont believe in this or in that.
The Quran is adressing every christians with there unique believes and reject them....
The arrogant cannot stand in your presence. You hate all who do wrong; (Ps. 5:5)
This verse is watered down and softened in The Message Bible:
You don't socialize with Wicked, or invite Evil over as your houseguest. Hot-Air-Boaster collapses in front of you; you shake your head over Mischie-Maker. God destroys Lie-Speaker; Blood-Thirsty and Truth-Bender disgust you. (The Message, Ps. 5:5)
I dont think Zawadi is ready to take the public platform in defence of Islam. He is too interested in switching on and off his mobile phone as well as his laptop and then apologize for it. His pace is too fast, his arguments are too controntational. I forwarded his sections, and finally decided to forward the whole debate.
The Qur'an is consistent and most definitely has textual integrity. Bassam clearly demonstrated how many of the scholarly commentators of the Qur'an had the correct basic understanding of the Trinity that most Christians would associate to them selves.
The issue arises because Christians themselves are so confused with their doctrine. The Qur'an consistently says to desist from saying THREE because is Allah is ONE. This is the most comprehensive understanding.
OMG !! james white has the exact same agruement that has been refuted again and again and again !!!! about mary as a god .. the ONLY difference is the way he delivered it in desperation. ... brother bassam did an excellent. oh btw @Nazam44 thank for uploading, did you have to purchase this from alpha and omega ministries ?
the way the video skips around the 45mins mark is too fishy.. i think it has been edited... not sure by whom but it was at a crucial part of borther Bassam's opening statement which would have clarified alot. Does anyone know if there is a cleaner version??
786qiraatfan 4 weeks ago
White is beating around the bush, Islam is your salvation and trinity or paganaism is your condemnation. He keep on through out the debate saying muslims especially Dr Zakir Naik misrepresent his belief, but he cannot specify what belief if he meant the trinity then he has to explain it to us.
julio14335 1 month ago
@muslim9x9x
Another lawyer is Dr. John Warwick Mongomery.
His degrees include: the A.B. with distinction in Philosophy (Cornell University), B.L.S. and M.A. (University of California), B.D. and S.T.M. (Wittenberg University), LL.B. (La Salle Extension University), M. Phil. in Law (University of Essex), Ph.D. (University of Chicago), Th.D. Doctorat d'Universite (University of Strasbourg), LLM and LLD in canon law (Cardiff University). He also holds an honorary doctorate awarded in 1999.
milkydud 2 months ago
if dr. white is saying that christian believes that Yahweh, Jesus and Holy Ghost are all One God always, Who were seen as One Entity by the Angels of God, and when this One Entity wanted to interact with man on earth, He projected Jesus, and when to create He projected Holy Ghost, while the Father projection remains except the few times He walked with Abraham, is that not confusing when God is not actually the Author of confusion, while Allah says Jesus & Holy Spirit are both servants of Allah
lionabbass 3 months ago
Notice how the video skips when the Muslim brother is making a critical point in his arugement?
Legend1One 3 months ago
Genesis 18 , Three Visitors come to Abraham, He greets the group of three visitors without choosing one of the three and leaving the two out. He greets the group of three visitors as "Lord" and as addressed, twice the three visitors respond in unison of voice , speaking by three as one. This means God as One yet holds inside of God, the power to be Father, Son, Holy Spirit, to be Seven Archangels all inside God, to be all powers and principalities, and yet God remains Himself One.
CarmineFragione 5 months ago
Genesis 18 , Three Visitors come to Abraham, He greets the group of three visitors without choosing one of the three and leaving the two out. He greets the group of three visitors as "Lord" and as addressed, twice the three visitors respond in unison of voice , speaking by three as one. This means God as One yet holds inside of God, the power to be Father, Son, Holy Spirit, to be Seven Archangels all inside God, to be all powers and principalities, and yet God remains Himself One.
CarmineFragione 5 months ago
James White is a joke, his debating style is to duck, dodge, use abstract information and thought to defend his points. Most Annoying debater on the planet, in fact he's not even a debater, he can't defend arguments except with challenging the debater with a question he poseslike in a courtroom. Ma'am was the offender wearing a green jacket or a black jacket? can you be sure ma'am? it was getting dark you know? did you clean your glasses, are you sure? etc etc etc
takewhole 6 months ago
@takewhole I AGREE. james white is an ARROGANT non-debater, he subconsciously thinks Debate is a COURT ROOM. Is he a lawyer? None of the Gospels can survive in Court of Law, they are anonymous and contradictory.
Christianity totally FAILS the Court of Law, they blame their CRIMES upon another man (Jesus) who is completely INNOCENT. Even the (Roman) authority Pilate said "I find him INNOCENT". Christianity would fall into PERJURY.
muslim9x9x 5 months ago
@takewhole LOL.... Agreed! :-)
Submission333 5 months ago
Thats the third debate I've seen Dr.White getting defeated in a debate,the first two ones are with Bart Ehrman and Gregg Stafford
TheDaiz999 6 months ago 4
@TheDaiz999 How do you define 'defeat' as clearly Dr.White one those debates.
Ceasardukedutchess 6 months ago
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HaXaKgamer 7 months ago
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HaXaKgamer 7 months ago
The christian of today believe that the POPE is Divine and his decision are deviated and linked by the holly Spirit!!
And guess what the Pope is simply a PRIEST.
The Quran state that they believe their Priest instead of GOD!!!
almao2006 7 months ago
@almao2006 I'm a Christian and I don't believe the pope is Divine, this is blasphemy. True Christianity is when a person obeys the gospel of Jesus Christ. Both Islam and the catholic church have false teachings, but Islam is the worst. Islam is the most blasphemous religion on earth. Islam is a religion of Satan. All Muslims need to come to the Lord Jesus Christ.
MrRooper100 7 months ago
@MrRooper100 so i guess it was "satan" who inspired surah mary,where it calls her the greatest woman to set foot on earth,was it "satan" who told muslims to believe in jesus as a true prophet and the messiah and to pray to the one true god of abraham,think!!!!!!!
exposemyfoes 7 months ago
Mr. White leaves in an other Stern!!!!
almao2006 7 months ago
James Write is really dishonest...
By saying dont say three, any christian knows that the quran is refuting the trinity and the quran dont have to say that catholics says this and new born says that....
Every single christian is Unique. Everytime you corner them, they say we dont believe in this or in that.
The Quran is adressing every christians with there unique believes and reject them....
Logia1978 8 months ago 3
The arrogant cannot stand in your presence. You hate all who do wrong; (Ps. 5:5)
This verse is watered down and softened in The Message Bible:
You don't socialize with Wicked, or invite Evil over as your houseguest. Hot-Air-Boaster collapses in front of you; you shake your head over Mischie-Maker. God destroys Lie-Speaker; Blood-Thirsty and Truth-Bender disgust you. (The Message, Ps. 5:5)
muslim9x9x 8 months ago
Do not elevate Jesus to the level of GOD Almighty.He is the messiah and messenger, a servant of God.
mfrmfr05 8 months ago
Many non-Catholics accuse Catholics of making Mary another Deity and another redeemer, even james white himself.
1MoreMuslim 8 months ago
Bassam's latest debate can be viewed here: vimeo . com / 24538461
I too was gonna ask you, Nazam44, if you had to purchase the debate from the kafirs?
itcrowdfan92 8 months ago
@itcrowdfan92 No, this the Muslim copy of the debate.
Nazam44 5 months ago
@itcrowdfan92 LOL "from the kafirs"? Boy, you're deep inside your little Islamobubble, aren't you?
Rhology 2 weeks ago
trinity is not there in the bible.Koran just affirms the message of jesus.Jesus never claimed he is God.He was the messiah.
mfrmfr05 8 months ago
Mash'Allaah brother Zawadi. We can appreciate why you would become frustrated with White's prevarications; he wasn't being straight and clear enough.
IslamSikhism 8 months ago
bassam is an apologist? so he's not presenting the "real Islam" in front of us?can anybody please explain
manzar9121 8 months ago
Islam is the name of the practice/ belief of the creator. The argument of "who came first" is void.
bigorod 8 months ago
I dont think Zawadi is ready to take the public platform in defence of Islam. He is too interested in switching on and off his mobile phone as well as his laptop and then apologize for it. His pace is too fast, his arguments are too controntational. I forwarded his sections, and finally decided to forward the whole debate.
JennaSmith987 8 months ago
The Qur'an is consistent and most definitely has textual integrity. Bassam clearly demonstrated how many of the scholarly commentators of the Qur'an had the correct basic understanding of the Trinity that most Christians would associate to them selves.
The issue arises because Christians themselves are so confused with their doctrine. The Qur'an consistently says to desist from saying THREE because is Allah is ONE. This is the most comprehensive understanding.
MrGrandDragon 8 months ago 5
@MrGrandDragon
Please show us your credentials and Passport from the time of Muhammad.
TokyoFreeze79 7 months ago
around the time 0:45 and onwards its kinda lagging
HaXaKgamer 8 months ago
La ilaha ilala Muhammad rasululah
pillgrimz 8 months ago 12
OMG !! james white has the exact same agruement that has been refuted again and again and again !!!! about mary as a god .. the ONLY difference is the way he delivered it in desperation. ... brother bassam did an excellent. oh btw @Nazam44 thank for uploading, did you have to purchase this from alpha and omega ministries ?
0ptimusbibIe 8 months ago 17
@0ptimusbibIe
No, members of the Muslim Debate Initiative helped support him for this event, they filmed it for him, and uploaded it on to the channel.
mujtahid2006 8 months ago