Cherokee was an ASCAP song and Redskin Rhumba was written as a replacement for Cherokee during the 1941 ASCAP ban. Redskin Rhumba was registered through BMI.
I'm 81. In 1945, during sophomore year in h.s. in NJ, I skipped school one day & hitch-hiked to NYC to see Charlie Barnett at the Roxy. The band was assembled on a platform below stage level. I still recall how thrilling it was with the house lights dimmed, and from below, you heard Cherokee as the platform rose & came into view. I was so lucky to be growing up as a teenager back then & able to see all the big bands as WWII ended, in either NYC or at the Adam's theater in Newark.
@41030bob That was a great time to be a teen. I wish that I could go back at my age of 43. A man really had freedom in those days and could work at the same job until he retired. But the music.....Artie, Woody, Kenton, Dorsey, Krupa, Basie, Ray McKinley, not to mention the smaller groups and trios. With so much to see, I'd have to make what I make now to break even.
I dig Charlie's grove n all, and appreciate his monumental contributions to jazz music 'n all...but, How come Barnett dint' have no niggas in his band ever?...@ 4:15 some white man comments, "Just the thing you need for jazz!" , when really all you need for jazz is two niggas and a room fulla white folks!! Charlie Barnett may have been
@CHOGGIE23 Mate, I can sort of see where you are coming from, but I don't think you have quite the right idea. For a start, Charlie was one of the first guys to integrate his band (1935 or 37). He was also a great admirer and friend of both Basie and Ellington (he held a private party for the Duke in 64). segregation was (shamefully) sitll law in the South throughout most of Charlie's career, so he may not have had much choice in the matter. Either way, he definitely wasn't any of your options.
Charlie Barnet's biography actually notes the following: "He was also a champion of racial equality, hiring many black singers and musicians at a time when other bands were segregated. His use of African-American performers kept his orchestra out of several hotels and ballrooms and was also probably the reason why he was never picked for any big commercial radio series. His music and arrangements were admittedly influenced by Duke Ellington."
From his bio: "He was also a champion of racial equality, hiring many black singers and musicians at a time when other bands were segregated. His use of African-American performers kept his orchestra out of several hotels and ballrooms and was also probably the reason why he was never picked for any big commercial radio series. His music and arrangements were admittedly influenced by Duke Ellington."
@magicmistic-Did some bio-hoppin' m'self on ol' Charlie-Looks deceive-This is no doubt one of those gigs where Charlie got the cash as long as it was an all-white affair-I'm sure his life-story is rife with compromise considering the era.....White man whose heart is with the music and the folks that made it what it was. Without Africa, we'd have never had jazz, blues, rock n' roll, etc, etc, adinfinitum.
@CHOGGIE23 Ya know, when I look closely at the cats in this video, the 'bone player on the right seems to have a pretty good tan. I also noticed something about the keyboard guy's hair, but they never gave a good enough view of him for me to be sure whether or not I think he was passing.
@CHOGGIE23 Hi again --- found another bio which states: Where Benny Goodman received enormous credit for "breaking the color bar" by hiring Teddy Wilson and Lionel Hampton, Barnet went ahead and did it without fanfare, employing far more black musicians, incidentally, than Goodman or any other white bandleader ever did. "This was not done with any thought of being a crusader," he volunteered. "I simply hired what I thought were the best men available at the time. (more to follow...)
(continued from above) "The one question was, and should always be, 'How well does the guy play?'" Such thinking was not exactly revolutionary among musicians in the 1930s, but putting it into practice certainly was.
The number of outstanding black musicians who played in his bands at various times is amazing, among them Garnet Clark, Benny Carter, Rex Stewart, Ram Ramirez, Frank Newton, Sidney De Paris, Charlie Shavers, Peanuts Holland, Al Killian, Howard McGhee, Trummy Young, (more...)
(continued) Dick Vance, Roy Eldridge, Paul Webster, Clark Terry, Jimmy Nottingham, Lammar Wright, Jr., Dave Burns, Vernon "Geechie" Smith, Willie Smith, Ernie Royal and Snooky Young. Among the featured vocalists were Bunny Briggs and Lena Horne."
@CHOGGIE23 -- you gotta check these out (at least) 2 other Charlie Barnet selections here. Look for Singing Telegram Charlie Barnett & Bunny Briggs, and also Drop Me Off in Harlem (featuring Roy Eldridge).
@hep2jive I loved his 'abrupt' conducting style as the music just flowwwwwed! Barnet & 450 other great artists each have their own playlists on my channel. It's an archive of the best of a century of pop music on over 750 playlists that also cover 100 genres & every year since 1900. My channel truly lets you listen as if you've stepped back in time, hope you come check it out. CB did some amazing work with Bill May on a 1961 Polynesian themed album billed as The Out-Islanders. chuck
I did not realize that Charlie Barnet's band was that talented; they are exceptionally good; they are a pleasure to hear.
Roger Plafkin--Plafkin Farms, Ada, Michigan
plafkinfarms 6 days ago
CB is playing an ALTO in this performance...
wrfreytag 1 month ago
Cherokee was an ASCAP song and Redskin Rhumba was written as a replacement for Cherokee during the 1941 ASCAP ban. Redskin Rhumba was registered through BMI.
wrfreytag 1 month ago
Redskin Rumba sounds so similar to this song
generationll 1 month ago
I'm 81. In 1945, during sophomore year in h.s. in NJ, I skipped school one day & hitch-hiked to NYC to see Charlie Barnett at the Roxy. The band was assembled on a platform below stage level. I still recall how thrilling it was with the house lights dimmed, and from below, you heard Cherokee as the platform rose & came into view. I was so lucky to be growing up as a teenager back then & able to see all the big bands as WWII ended, in either NYC or at the Adam's theater in Newark.
41030bob 3 months ago 9
@41030bob That was a great time to be a teen. I wish that I could go back at my age of 43. A man really had freedom in those days and could work at the same job until he retired. But the music.....Artie, Woody, Kenton, Dorsey, Krupa, Basie, Ray McKinley, not to mention the smaller groups and trios. With so much to see, I'd have to make what I make now to break even.
acfinney1 1 month ago
@41030bob Lucky you! Love Barnet.
tallpaul521 1 week ago
Outstanding.
ThatsMrMoronToYou 3 months ago
So much better than the Ray Noble version. Thank God.
lpclassic60 4 months ago
I suspect that the trumpet soloist is George Rock - later one of Spike Jones' City Slickers. Can anyone confirm, or otherwise?
rallful 4 months ago
gleason on the bass?
hep2jive 5 months ago
I dig Charlie's grove n all, and appreciate his monumental contributions to jazz music 'n all...but, How come Barnett dint' have no niggas in his band ever?...@ 4:15 some white man comments, "Just the thing you need for jazz!" , when really all you need for jazz is two niggas and a room fulla white folks!! Charlie Barnett may have been
A. a racist
B. a savvy Businessman
C. an asshole
D. a fuckin' dumbass
E. all of the above
CHOGGIE23 5 months ago
@CHOGGIE23 Mate, I can sort of see where you are coming from, but I don't think you have quite the right idea. For a start, Charlie was one of the first guys to integrate his band (1935 or 37). He was also a great admirer and friend of both Basie and Ellington (he held a private party for the Duke in 64). segregation was (shamefully) sitll law in the South throughout most of Charlie's career, so he may not have had much choice in the matter. Either way, he definitely wasn't any of your options.
PowerToasty 5 months ago
@CHOGGIE23 ---
Charlie Barnet's biography actually notes the following: "He was also a champion of racial equality, hiring many black singers and musicians at a time when other bands were segregated. His use of African-American performers kept his orchestra out of several hotels and ballrooms and was also probably the reason why he was never picked for any big commercial radio series. His music and arrangements were admittedly influenced by Duke Ellington."
magicmistic 3 months ago
From his bio: "He was also a champion of racial equality, hiring many black singers and musicians at a time when other bands were segregated. His use of African-American performers kept his orchestra out of several hotels and ballrooms and was also probably the reason why he was never picked for any big commercial radio series. His music and arrangements were admittedly influenced by Duke Ellington."
magicmistic 3 months ago
@magicmistic-Did some bio-hoppin' m'self on ol' Charlie-Looks deceive-This is no doubt one of those gigs where Charlie got the cash as long as it was an all-white affair-I'm sure his life-story is rife with compromise considering the era.....White man whose heart is with the music and the folks that made it what it was. Without Africa, we'd have never had jazz, blues, rock n' roll, etc, etc, adinfinitum.
CHOGGIE23 3 months ago
@CHOGGIE23 Ya know, when I look closely at the cats in this video, the 'bone player on the right seems to have a pretty good tan. I also noticed something about the keyboard guy's hair, but they never gave a good enough view of him for me to be sure whether or not I think he was passing.
magicmistic 3 months ago
@CHOGGIE23 Hi again --- found another bio which states: Where Benny Goodman received enormous credit for "breaking the color bar" by hiring Teddy Wilson and Lionel Hampton, Barnet went ahead and did it without fanfare, employing far more black musicians, incidentally, than Goodman or any other white bandleader ever did. "This was not done with any thought of being a crusader," he volunteered. "I simply hired what I thought were the best men available at the time. (more to follow...)
magicmistic 3 months ago
(continued from above) "The one question was, and should always be, 'How well does the guy play?'" Such thinking was not exactly revolutionary among musicians in the 1930s, but putting it into practice certainly was.
The number of outstanding black musicians who played in his bands at various times is amazing, among them Garnet Clark, Benny Carter, Rex Stewart, Ram Ramirez, Frank Newton, Sidney De Paris, Charlie Shavers, Peanuts Holland, Al Killian, Howard McGhee, Trummy Young, (more...)
magicmistic 3 months ago
(continued) Dick Vance, Roy Eldridge, Paul Webster, Clark Terry, Jimmy Nottingham, Lammar Wright, Jr., Dave Burns, Vernon "Geechie" Smith, Willie Smith, Ernie Royal and Snooky Young. Among the featured vocalists were Bunny Briggs and Lena Horne."
magicmistic 3 months ago
@CHOGGIE23 -- you gotta check these out (at least) 2 other Charlie Barnet selections here. Look for Singing Telegram Charlie Barnett & Bunny Briggs, and also Drop Me Off in Harlem (featuring Roy Eldridge).
magicmistic 3 months ago
What brand of tenor is Charlie Barnet playing? It looks like a conn. Am I right?
Thundermonkeyms 7 months ago
swingin!
dvdsea 8 months ago
like modern! !!
MrToyota272 10 months ago
Charlie is really overlooked. Sounds great!
hep2jive 1 year ago
@hep2jive I loved his 'abrupt' conducting style as the music just flowwwwwed! Barnet & 450 other great artists each have their own playlists on my channel. It's an archive of the best of a century of pop music on over 750 playlists that also cover 100 genres & every year since 1900. My channel truly lets you listen as if you've stepped back in time, hope you come check it out. CB did some amazing work with Bill May on a 1961 Polynesian themed album billed as The Out-Islanders. chuck
chkjns 8 months ago
@chkjns Gotta find that album
acfinney1 6 months ago
Damn! I wished my phonograph did all of that.
M1GARRAND1 1 year ago 7
5 stars for that! By the way, anybody should read "Those Swingin´Years" by him....never read a better book bout a swingband.....
MrVocabell 1 year ago
man, they were having fun!!! especially the bassist!!! haha...
"Just the thing you need for jazz..."
162tom3090096 1 year ago
And we thought music video's started with MTV.
sndtubes1 1 year ago
That's a keeper. Man the ending smoked!! Three cheers for the "Mad Mab".
macvoutie 1 year ago
Ending was so hot, I had to nail my feet to the floor.
acfinney 1 year ago
Glad to see this clip back up at You Tube. Barnet is one of all time favorite Big Bands -- somewhat forgotten, sadly. Thanks for the clip!!!
tallpaul521 1 year ago