I hate that our decision has been so offensive to you. We understood that some may not agree with our decision, but we spent a lot of time praying about it and decided this was the best decision for our family, but also realize it may not be best for every family. We do not feel we have done any harm to our daughter.
@WayneTheWriter its giving the girl a chance to expieriance hearing. what is wrong wtih that? absolutely nothing. im not saying its bad to be deaf not at all. god made u that way. but think of the joy she has hearing
her own voice. her ma's voice and the noises of the world around her. you think just because she was born deaf she has 2 remain deaf her whole life? no. technology gave her another option. if you dont agree with this, then keep it to yourself and let her enjoy the expierance.
@gentlemortal Enjoy the experience? Doubt it. Are you enjoying the experience now or take it for granted? I never met a hearing person telling me "I love hearing this and that". They just take it for granted. It's a miracle for parents, not a child. It pleases the parents as they were upset with a 'Deaf' baby. They were brainwashed with too many stigmas of the Deafness by the Doctors. The doctor's attitude is like "Your child is Deaf, let us fix it" and gets paid.
@WayneTheWriter i dont take my hearing for granted. i enjoy having the ability to hear. as im sure this child does now. and now your saying these people were brainwashed? by what? the doctors magic power? no. they saw another option. obviously they went to the doctor. he or she didnt walk up to them an say "oh your childs deaf let me fix her." no. they made a desition. they realised they had another option.they saw the gift they could give 2 their girl and they took it. willingly. no brainwash
@WayneTheWriter It is absolutely a miracle!!! To share our own personal story, yes, we were initially upset at hearing our daughter was deaf. Hearing is all we know (as a couple) and it is a frightening thing to think your child will not be a part of something so "normal" for you. As for taking it for granted, I must say that before our daughter, absolutely we took it for granted...just like I take for granted I have two limbs to walk on most of the time, but I certainly don't now.
@rschulte2000 Yes it does upset you at first and I don't blame you for that. Can I recommend you to read some books by Dr. Harlan Lane? After reading the books, your mind will be blown away (not literally!) lol
@rschulte2000 Your decision is not offensive to me as every parents can choose for themselves. but, you've said your decision were the best for the family, but is it for the best for a child? who benefits? Family or the child? If you & your family learnt sign language, then it is a progress. However, C.I. are designed for doctors to make money. I am Deaf myself & refuses to be changed who I am. If my child is deaf, I would love him/her as he/she is not an 'improved' version of the original.
@WayneTheWriter you think they are being selfish? how exactly? it doesnt just benefit the parents! they made a good decision, despite people like u trying to make them think other wise. they gave their daughter the gift of hearing. no not all people want that gift you made that obvious with you're rediculously rude comments, but these people wanted their daughter to expieriance that. its not wrong. we live in the 21st century now. we have a right to make these kind of decisions. without critism
@gentlemortal Ok, Sorry if you didn't know this. Did the doctors tell the parents about Sign Language, Deaf Community, and Deaf History? NO! All the Doctors brush the Deaf pride aside and label the Deaf children as impaired beings. Look on youtube for Oppose A2725 (I think that's the one) where the parents testified that hospitals/doctors HIDES the other options for the child, so therefore forcing parents to choose implants, implants and implants.
@WayneTheWriter ... did it ever occur to YOU THAT THE PARENTS ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THESE OPTIONS? and im sorry for those that did not that is their fault. if they truely cared they would have done more research on the subject now wouldnt they have? and despite what u may think not all docters are money greedy monsters who just grab grab grab. some actually want to help their patients. how bout you go do your research before telling me to do mine.
@gentlemortal I did my research. I am Deaf myself. And.... I recommend you to buy and read books by Doctor Harlan Lane. Especially 'The Mask of Benevolence'. You will be shocked. Harlan Lane isn't the only person who did the homework, in fact, ALL of the Deaf people knows this. So, why not you?
@gentlemortal Before I forget, I was a teacher of the Deaf. I had witnessed a CLASSROOM FULL of Deaf children with implants. I had asked the parents how did it all happen. It was under the advice by the doctors. Also, doctors do seems to be credible with their status and power as well for profession. So the voices of the Deaf community are usually brushed aside and overlooked. Maybe that's my country.
@WayneTheWriter I was reading an article in the book for my class "For hearing people only" just now. (yeah i know its an article in deaf life too >.>) Anyhow, it explains how many options only come down to two....oralism or medical help to get them to hear. Never given options to help the child know and enjoy their world. Many articles they show don't help either. They make it sound horrible to be deaf. "Its the end of the world!" attitude. I do believe decisions must be informed ones first.
@neverjanay Precisely my thoughts. The Deaf Culture has never been an issue to the doctors and social services. Basically they indoctrinate the Deaf that they must adapt to their ideals.
@WayneTheWriter the sad truth to that is its more of a hearing culture issue. We're hearing and its all we know is this. We never consider other options. With out my current interpreter training I'm going through, I probably would have done the same thing...then had my deaf friends mad at me later for it since my deaf friends aren't close enough for me to go advice for. We as hearing just don't know enough and aren't educated on a regular basis.
Unfourtunately WayneTheWriter you have made an assumption about information given to parents based on possibly one youtube video? This was not our experience. We have a school for the deaf 1 mile from our house, early intervention was willing to go whatever route we chose. The beauty of it to me was that the system allowed us as parents to make the choice we felt was best for our family.
@rschulte2000 One youtube video? No, I did my homework. I was only recommending you to look at one video to start you off. It's the tip of the iceberg. Of course they ensure you've made your own choice. But you need realise how they managed to trick into choosing what they want. Look up for a magic card trick called 'Forcing'. No magic powers needed. Just a clever and gentle persuasion. Care you tell me why several of Deaf people I met regretted the CI?
@gentlemortal My comments may be perceived as rude to you, but not to the owner of the video. She has sent me a message via private inbox thanking me for allowing her to see the other side of perspective. My comment may be rude to you, but your comments are rude to me. It insults my identity and pride, however, I am open minded and speak from experience and research. You may be offended because truth hurts?
@WayneTheWriter Another quick question...purely out of curiosity....what is the difference in giving a deaf person a hearing aid and a cochlear implant? Other than the obvious (surgery vs. no surgery) The aid is doing the same thing as an implant, isn't it??? Helping the deaf person to hear???
@rschulte2000 What are the differences? Ok, Hearing aids just amplify the sounds in the ear, and CI just send signals to the cochlear. As for the success rate? About the same. However, CI can damage the inner ear workings as it is part of the surgery but hearing aids doesn't damage anything. CI restricts the freedom of movement, if a child falls and bangs the head, they may need an operation to fix the problem, hearing aids? just rub the head and it's ok. The list goes on and on.
@WayneTheWriter I understand physical differences. My question was more related to the idea of " changing who a person is by giving them sound". Aides and CI's both give sound to a deaf person.. One just involves more risks, but inmournsituation, it also has way more success as far as hearing. The Ci's allow my profoundly deaf ( And I mean PROFOUNDLY... They quit trying to test her with no response @ 120 db!!!...to hear sounds at 20 and 25 db ( running water birds chirping Whispers in her ear
@rschulte2000 I am profoundly Deaf myself. Especially the right ear. My right ear fails the hearing tests, however, my left ear is dependant on my hearing aid. As for running water, birds chirping etc... Sounds nice, but do you take those sounds seriously on every day basis? I mean, would you watch the same movie every day? At first, it's exciting, but after repetition, it's just... normal and barely noticeable. Yes, it's wonderful to hear, but every day?
@WayneTheWriter Try taking that same argument and applying it to your sight. Sure, sunrises and colors are nice, but do you take them seriously every day? Think about it. Personally, if I had deaf children I would give them CI if only for one reason: music. I could never in good conscience deprive anyone from music.
@DetoxJesus Well, to be honest, with CI, they can hear music, yes, but not like you can. They can hear it in an artificial version of a true music. Giving an artificial sights to a blind person, he would see a low res photographic version of a true beauty you can see with your own eyes. According to Dr. Harlan Lane, the person is still Deaf, no matter how hard you try to improve the hearing.
@WayneTheWriter Giving sight to certain types of blind people has been done, and the main issue actually tends to be depth perception being difficult at first. Is it bad just because it's "artificial"? Is my wearing glasses to correct my awful vision somehow inferior to using said awful, non-artificial vision? With which I can't properly read anything or see cars coming down the road? No, artificial has nothing to do with it. She may still be deaf, but my vision still sucks: both are corrected.
@rschulte2000 what you just said there makes me wonder if you think that being deaf maybe bad or a disadvantage to her? I'm hearing, but i'm a deaf studies major...so thats why I'm curious. I find deaf culture fascinating. I love how interactive it is. Are you also teaching her asl? I ask that cause i know some that got a CI, but now its failing. One girl is turning to asl so that she'll know it before she's fully deaf. They can only do so much with the technology b/c of what surgery involves.
@neverjanay I want to answer your question, but I'm not interested in getting in a "debate" over this. Disadvantage? yes. Disadvantage physically. Deafness technically is a disability..it takes away one of her 5 senses. Does it cause her potential to be any less? No. But lacking one of her 5 senses does put her at a disadvantage. That means she will and currently does experience challenges due to the lack of this particular sense.
@rschulte2000 :: shakes her head :: I don't want to debate. I'm curious is all. Each person makes their own decisions for each reason. I understand that. I'm just big on knowing and understanding people's opinions, mindsets, and so forth. I wanted to make sure i understood your wording correctly and ask another question that i was curious about. I hate assuming things. Just makes bad things happen, so I ask questions instead.
And again in our case, no restriction of November. My daughter does gymnastics with her implants with no problems. And as for damaging the inner ear, that was damaged due to genetic disorder, so the surgery didn't do anything further. I realize that is not always the case, but was for us and certainly made the decision easier bc of it
@rschulte2000 diff between hearing, deaf, and CI is a culture thing in Deaf culture. As hearing, we see it as helping and keeping from disabling them. Deaf see it as a whole different matter. it even goes as far as a difference of hearing, deaf, hard of hearing (HoH), and CI. CI is a big issue in deaf culture. It hits the heart of many deaf people and their pride in their culture. O_o I could go on, but youtube won't let me -_- stupid character limits....
@cyhalynne And worked for many of Deaf people across the country and the world. You see, I wonder why you prefer to listen to doctor's opinions rather than Deaf person's experiences.
@gentlemortal Sounds like 'Is there a reason not giving a black person an opportunity to be white? To eliminate racism, just make all the black people white. As for the Deaf, just make them hearings and get rid of their natural identity. If this is offensive to you, then your statement is offensive to Deaf people.
I'm not wanting to argue/debate this issue. I realize we hold different opinions. I do have a question I would like for you to help me understand from your viewpoint. When you said "making her hearing gets rid of her natural identity" it makes me wonder....Since I have poor vision and wear contacts, am I "changing" who I am? The same question could be asked of someone who gets a prosthesis?
These are medical services (just like the CI) that appear less controversial. Your thoughts??
@rschulte2000 Thank you. A poor vision & a consideration to wear contacts were your own choice. But is it fair for a child to have their eyeballs removed & replaced with artificial eyeballs which are more painful to wear for the rest of the life? People tends to see 'Deaf' as 'something wrong with the ears', but for the Deaf people themselves, they sees it as their own race, tribe & identity. The Deaf accept and adapt their deafness without fuss unlike other people with their own disability.
@WayneTheWriter And that is something I truly admire about the deaf culture. There are insurmountable odds places against some and yet there is tenacity and drive to succeed amongst that. There is something to be said about that. :)
Beautiful. Stunningly so. It's like getting to be there when a life-long visually impaired person suddenly can view a sunset. It's like getting to watch a person that has never walked...dance. What a wonder!
beautiful!!
rebfizzle513 1 year ago
this is so amazing!!
cyhalynne 1 year ago
yeah, is there a reason to give her ci? health reason or selfish reason?
hallmeg83 2 years ago
I hate that our decision has been so offensive to you. We understood that some may not agree with our decision, but we spent a lot of time praying about it and decided this was the best decision for our family, but also realize it may not be best for every family. We do not feel we have done any harm to our daughter.
rschulte2000 2 years ago
it is ur decision and look at the outcome she is beautiful and singing and talking!! congrats!!
cyhalynne 1 year ago
@cyhalynne Yup, congrats!! The original Deaf child is gone now. It's like killing a child and replace it with a hearing child.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter its giving the girl a chance to expieriance hearing. what is wrong wtih that? absolutely nothing. im not saying its bad to be deaf not at all. god made u that way. but think of the joy she has hearing
her own voice. her ma's voice and the noises of the world around her. you think just because she was born deaf she has 2 remain deaf her whole life? no. technology gave her another option. if you dont agree with this, then keep it to yourself and let her enjoy the expierance.
gentlemortal 1 year ago
@gentlemortal Enjoy the experience? Doubt it. Are you enjoying the experience now or take it for granted? I never met a hearing person telling me "I love hearing this and that". They just take it for granted. It's a miracle for parents, not a child. It pleases the parents as they were upset with a 'Deaf' baby. They were brainwashed with too many stigmas of the Deafness by the Doctors. The doctor's attitude is like "Your child is Deaf, let us fix it" and gets paid.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter i dont take my hearing for granted. i enjoy having the ability to hear. as im sure this child does now. and now your saying these people were brainwashed? by what? the doctors magic power? no. they saw another option. obviously they went to the doctor. he or she didnt walk up to them an say "oh your childs deaf let me fix her." no. they made a desition. they realised they had another option.they saw the gift they could give 2 their girl and they took it. willingly. no brainwash
gentlemortal 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter It is absolutely a miracle!!! To share our own personal story, yes, we were initially upset at hearing our daughter was deaf. Hearing is all we know (as a couple) and it is a frightening thing to think your child will not be a part of something so "normal" for you. As for taking it for granted, I must say that before our daughter, absolutely we took it for granted...just like I take for granted I have two limbs to walk on most of the time, but I certainly don't now.
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 Yes it does upset you at first and I don't blame you for that. Can I recommend you to read some books by Dr. Harlan Lane? After reading the books, your mind will be blown away (not literally!) lol
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 Your decision is not offensive to me as every parents can choose for themselves. but, you've said your decision were the best for the family, but is it for the best for a child? who benefits? Family or the child? If you & your family learnt sign language, then it is a progress. However, C.I. are designed for doctors to make money. I am Deaf myself & refuses to be changed who I am. If my child is deaf, I would love him/her as he/she is not an 'improved' version of the original.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter you think they are being selfish? how exactly? it doesnt just benefit the parents! they made a good decision, despite people like u trying to make them think other wise. they gave their daughter the gift of hearing. no not all people want that gift you made that obvious with you're rediculously rude comments, but these people wanted their daughter to expieriance that. its not wrong. we live in the 21st century now. we have a right to make these kind of decisions. without critism
gentlemortal 1 year ago
@gentlemortal Ok, Sorry if you didn't know this. Did the doctors tell the parents about Sign Language, Deaf Community, and Deaf History? NO! All the Doctors brush the Deaf pride aside and label the Deaf children as impaired beings. Look on youtube for Oppose A2725 (I think that's the one) where the parents testified that hospitals/doctors HIDES the other options for the child, so therefore forcing parents to choose implants, implants and implants.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter ... did it ever occur to YOU THAT THE PARENTS ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THESE OPTIONS? and im sorry for those that did not that is their fault. if they truely cared they would have done more research on the subject now wouldnt they have? and despite what u may think not all docters are money greedy monsters who just grab grab grab. some actually want to help their patients. how bout you go do your research before telling me to do mine.
gentlemortal 1 year ago
@gentlemortal I did my research. I am Deaf myself. And.... I recommend you to buy and read books by Doctor Harlan Lane. Especially 'The Mask of Benevolence'. You will be shocked. Harlan Lane isn't the only person who did the homework, in fact, ALL of the Deaf people knows this. So, why not you?
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@gentlemortal Before I forget, I was a teacher of the Deaf. I had witnessed a CLASSROOM FULL of Deaf children with implants. I had asked the parents how did it all happen. It was under the advice by the doctors. Also, doctors do seems to be credible with their status and power as well for profession. So the voices of the Deaf community are usually brushed aside and overlooked. Maybe that's my country.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter I was reading an article in the book for my class "For hearing people only" just now. (yeah i know its an article in deaf life too >.>) Anyhow, it explains how many options only come down to two....oralism or medical help to get them to hear. Never given options to help the child know and enjoy their world. Many articles they show don't help either. They make it sound horrible to be deaf. "Its the end of the world!" attitude. I do believe decisions must be informed ones first.
neverjanay 1 year ago
@neverjanay Precisely my thoughts. The Deaf Culture has never been an issue to the doctors and social services. Basically they indoctrinate the Deaf that they must adapt to their ideals.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter the sad truth to that is its more of a hearing culture issue. We're hearing and its all we know is this. We never consider other options. With out my current interpreter training I'm going through, I probably would have done the same thing...then had my deaf friends mad at me later for it since my deaf friends aren't close enough for me to go advice for. We as hearing just don't know enough and aren't educated on a regular basis.
neverjanay 1 year ago
Unfourtunately WayneTheWriter you have made an assumption about information given to parents based on possibly one youtube video? This was not our experience. We have a school for the deaf 1 mile from our house, early intervention was willing to go whatever route we chose. The beauty of it to me was that the system allowed us as parents to make the choice we felt was best for our family.
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 One youtube video? No, I did my homework. I was only recommending you to look at one video to start you off. It's the tip of the iceberg. Of course they ensure you've made your own choice. But you need realise how they managed to trick into choosing what they want. Look up for a magic card trick called 'Forcing'. No magic powers needed. Just a clever and gentle persuasion. Care you tell me why several of Deaf people I met regretted the CI?
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@gentlemortal My comments may be perceived as rude to you, but not to the owner of the video. She has sent me a message via private inbox thanking me for allowing her to see the other side of perspective. My comment may be rude to you, but your comments are rude to me. It insults my identity and pride, however, I am open minded and speak from experience and research. You may be offended because truth hurts?
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
to give her the joys of talking and being able to interact with more than just the deaf and others who know signing!
cyhalynne 1 year ago
@cyhalynne I can interact more by talking. I don't need C.I for that. All I did learn sign language first, then get hearing aid. Simple as that.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter Another quick question...purely out of curiosity....what is the difference in giving a deaf person a hearing aid and a cochlear implant? Other than the obvious (surgery vs. no surgery) The aid is doing the same thing as an implant, isn't it??? Helping the deaf person to hear???
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 What are the differences? Ok, Hearing aids just amplify the sounds in the ear, and CI just send signals to the cochlear. As for the success rate? About the same. However, CI can damage the inner ear workings as it is part of the surgery but hearing aids doesn't damage anything. CI restricts the freedom of movement, if a child falls and bangs the head, they may need an operation to fix the problem, hearing aids? just rub the head and it's ok. The list goes on and on.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter I understand physical differences. My question was more related to the idea of " changing who a person is by giving them sound". Aides and CI's both give sound to a deaf person.. One just involves more risks, but inmournsituation, it also has way more success as far as hearing. The Ci's allow my profoundly deaf ( And I mean PROFOUNDLY... They quit trying to test her with no response @ 120 db!!!...to hear sounds at 20 and 25 db ( running water birds chirping Whispers in her ear
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 I am profoundly Deaf myself. Especially the right ear. My right ear fails the hearing tests, however, my left ear is dependant on my hearing aid. As for running water, birds chirping etc... Sounds nice, but do you take those sounds seriously on every day basis? I mean, would you watch the same movie every day? At first, it's exciting, but after repetition, it's just... normal and barely noticeable. Yes, it's wonderful to hear, but every day?
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter Try taking that same argument and applying it to your sight. Sure, sunrises and colors are nice, but do you take them seriously every day? Think about it. Personally, if I had deaf children I would give them CI if only for one reason: music. I could never in good conscience deprive anyone from music.
DetoxJesus 1 year ago
@DetoxJesus Well, to be honest, with CI, they can hear music, yes, but not like you can. They can hear it in an artificial version of a true music. Giving an artificial sights to a blind person, he would see a low res photographic version of a true beauty you can see with your own eyes. According to Dr. Harlan Lane, the person is still Deaf, no matter how hard you try to improve the hearing.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter Giving sight to certain types of blind people has been done, and the main issue actually tends to be depth perception being difficult at first. Is it bad just because it's "artificial"? Is my wearing glasses to correct my awful vision somehow inferior to using said awful, non-artificial vision? With which I can't properly read anything or see cars coming down the road? No, artificial has nothing to do with it. She may still be deaf, but my vision still sucks: both are corrected.
DetoxJesus 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 what you just said there makes me wonder if you think that being deaf maybe bad or a disadvantage to her? I'm hearing, but i'm a deaf studies major...so thats why I'm curious. I find deaf culture fascinating. I love how interactive it is. Are you also teaching her asl? I ask that cause i know some that got a CI, but now its failing. One girl is turning to asl so that she'll know it before she's fully deaf. They can only do so much with the technology b/c of what surgery involves.
neverjanay 1 year ago
@neverjanay I want to answer your question, but I'm not interested in getting in a "debate" over this. Disadvantage? yes. Disadvantage physically. Deafness technically is a disability..it takes away one of her 5 senses. Does it cause her potential to be any less? No. But lacking one of her 5 senses does put her at a disadvantage. That means she will and currently does experience challenges due to the lack of this particular sense.
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 :: shakes her head :: I don't want to debate. I'm curious is all. Each person makes their own decisions for each reason. I understand that. I'm just big on knowing and understanding people's opinions, mindsets, and so forth. I wanted to make sure i understood your wording correctly and ask another question that i was curious about. I hate assuming things. Just makes bad things happen, so I ask questions instead.
neverjanay 1 year ago
@neverjanay good deal. thanks for asking and not just assuming!!! :)
rschulte2000 1 year ago
And again in our case, no restriction of November. My daughter does gymnastics with her implants with no problems. And as for damaging the inner ear, that was damaged due to genetic disorder, so the surgery didn't do anything further. I realize that is not always the case, but was for us and certainly made the decision easier bc of it
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 Oops, movement... Not November ( phone filled in what it thought I was typing ;). )
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 diff between hearing, deaf, and CI is a culture thing in Deaf culture. As hearing, we see it as helping and keeping from disabling them. Deaf see it as a whole different matter. it even goes as far as a difference of hearing, deaf, hard of hearing (HoH), and CI. CI is a big issue in deaf culture. It hits the heart of many deaf people and their pride in their culture. O_o I could go on, but youtube won't let me -_- stupid character limits....
neverjanay 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter and that is what worked for you!
cyhalynne 1 year ago
@cyhalynne And worked for many of Deaf people across the country and the world. You see, I wonder why you prefer to listen to doctor's opinions rather than Deaf person's experiences.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@hallmeg83 is there a reason not to give her an opportunity to hear? there is nothing wrong with what they did.
gentlemortal 1 year ago
@gentlemortal Sounds like 'Is there a reason not giving a black person an opportunity to be white? To eliminate racism, just make all the black people white. As for the Deaf, just make them hearings and get rid of their natural identity. If this is offensive to you, then your statement is offensive to Deaf people.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
I'm not wanting to argue/debate this issue. I realize we hold different opinions. I do have a question I would like for you to help me understand from your viewpoint. When you said "making her hearing gets rid of her natural identity" it makes me wonder....Since I have poor vision and wear contacts, am I "changing" who I am? The same question could be asked of someone who gets a prosthesis?
These are medical services (just like the CI) that appear less controversial. Your thoughts??
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 Thank you. A poor vision & a consideration to wear contacts were your own choice. But is it fair for a child to have their eyeballs removed & replaced with artificial eyeballs which are more painful to wear for the rest of the life? People tends to see 'Deaf' as 'something wrong with the ears', but for the Deaf people themselves, they sees it as their own race, tribe & identity. The Deaf accept and adapt their deafness without fuss unlike other people with their own disability.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter And that is something I truly admire about the deaf culture. There are insurmountable odds places against some and yet there is tenacity and drive to succeed amongst that. There is something to be said about that. :)
rschulte2000 1 year ago
Beautiful. Stunningly so. It's like getting to be there when a life-long visually impaired person suddenly can view a sunset. It's like getting to watch a person that has never walked...dance. What a wonder!
trickofthelight 4 years ago 2