LED Liquid Lightbulb by Liquid LED at CES 2009

[MrCebrayilov]

SUPER

[prite2prite]

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[deltajegga]

soooo, what the purpose of the liquid?

[iman10000]

@deltajegga heatsink and/or light dispersion

[vampov]

Am I to believe the water is designed to help pull the heat off these LED's? The main problem with led light bulbs is the high intensity leds overheat and break. Water with its high specific energy would be able to vent the heat produced by the led's. Or is it for light diffusion?

[Hayeshacker0NE]

@vampov I'm sure it does both.

[SupermaxCNC]

@vampov Its not water. Most likely a flourocarbon heat transfer fluid. It transfers the heat to the walls of the lamp and also acts like a fiber optic.

[1bstelz]

@SupermaxCNC lol that was my geuss too theres no way its water for sure

[soapshouse]

where to buy?

[optionen100]

But will it Blend?

[eggbertsmith]

How about some goddamned INFO!!!!?????

[lasernederland]

@eggbertsmith

See my videos for the Liquid Lightbulb

[n4ch0123456789098765]

nice, but so what, you can drink it after it burns ?

[ButtsexV2]

@n4ch0123456789098765 high efficiency low power. the water diffuses the light evenly throughout the room.

[j7x54]

what is the liquid for is it for cooling ?

[WeeeeBeep]

lack of info fail.. thumbs down.

[AZURA888]

ok LED lipsticks, LED pillows, LED drinks, LED nails, LED paint for wall. All the stupid imaginable ways to waste the possible saving in energy that in a firts time existed with this technology. The Jevons paradox.

[coolio8444]

The point of this is to have a compact led light since the ones they have now use huge heat sinks these use the liquid to cool them. *thumbs up*

[LehtoLT]

hmm, I think, if it would be water, after some time, calcs or smt like that will be on the botom, but here is smt like Fairy for dishes :D

[cheepjxiong]

"LiquidTLO"....ahahah

[Trifectum28]

That's never going to come out of carpet

[Waldbrand]

@Trifectum28 saw them in stores in germany already last year....



[zurechtweiser]

@Waldbrand wo + preis?

[Waldbrand]

@zurechtweiser : Im Spielzeugkatalog, wo's alles gibt was kein Mensch braucht... PEARL :-)

[10majfar]

liquid filled... means liquid cooled... that's pretty good

[chpicolo]

There is one lamp on Livermore Fire Department that is illuminating for at least 963600 hours (110years). It was turned on on 1901 and entered on Guiness.

[electrodacus]

@chpicolo Yes it was underpowered any incandescent light bulb will do the same if underpowered.

Normal LED with proper cooling is specified for 50000 hours and with just 20% underpowered can work for over 100000 hours with no problem.

Not to mention it will give up to 10x the light output of the incandescent bulb depending on color temperature.

Using a liquid to cool the LED is not a bad idea but is just increasing the thermal capacity not that much the cooling surface.

[Yankeeprepperasshat]

@chpicolo well yeah.. light bulbs naturally last forever. they are "engineered" to have a short lifespan, so they can sell more. This is widely accepted as common knowledge.

[sjogge123]

@chpicolo Better quality back then!

[ableite]

@chpicolo That lamp is running undervoltage. Thats why i think it never burned out.

[nickisacebeans]

@chpicolo yes, it's because it has never been turned off. Incandescent lights break from repeated heating and cooling.

[kronosmaf]

Interesante donde puedo conseguirlos

[96793269]

¡ Por favor, personas que no entienden nada de tecnología, no comenten nada!

Este espacio es para un intercambio serio entre profesionales y técnicos.

[zapper067]

Beware you might be eletrocuted by urine

[XxbufferingsxksxX]

Looks like that shit Iron man puts on his chest to live.

[MadmanDKDK]

If this tech ever goes commercial - I wouldn't buy em, risking all that nasty fluid in case the bulb explodes, or someone decides to undeliberately hit them and the bulb breaks.

But then again, the case of electricity and water not going together, now broken.

[kamikazeOS]

@MadmanDKDK I don't think it's water looks like some kind of oily shit....I would buy it it would make a good molotov cocktail :>

[urbex2007]

@MadmanDKDK it's oil you idiot! the only water that electrical products can be put in is distilled water. hot oil poses a fire risk and could lead to severe burns if broken during operation.



[brunzmeflugen]

@urbex2007 u mad

[hellsmaw84]

brightest LED lights I've seen thus far

[asshol3434]

if its brake you have light bulp Liquid on the floor lolz

[hellsmaw84]

@asshol3434 Someone needs to go back to grammar school.

[xerox165]

This product will fail for one reason, the bulb has liquid in it. Who the fuck would want to pick up that mess when it brakes? Well, unless it's made of some kinda or shatterproof plastic. then it might be ok.

[GuinnessKMF]

Probably very useful in submerged or other high pressure environments, incompressible liquids will keep them from shattering as easily.

[movieboy311]

back when a lightbulb was made that had almost a lifetime life, figuring out that they could not make money with these light bulbs they decided to make lesser quality ones. What else have they done this with?

[zackthegoth]

@movieboy311

everything

[purplestrawberry95]

LOL, I actually thought that this said "squid light bulb" not liquid XD. I was all like "ooooooh a glowing squid bulb, I want one!!!........oh never mind" LOL :)

[GostosoSPbr]

And what is that liquid? ha-ha I bet it's wonders from China....

Lol 45,000 Hours on a product from China? HA-HA (By Nelson)

[1980Gabo]

What is the point of being submerged? I guess is for heat dissipation purposes but I'm not sure... can someone tell the reason?

[TheNitramneb]

@1980Gabo LED's make horrible ambient lights. As they are so bright hence the reason we use filament lights even tho they burn out and are not as efficient. I would guess these are for room lighting as they produce a softer light.

[mist42nz]

@TheNitramneb Use a diffuser

[secretcodered]

looks safe

[LEDsIndustrial]

Interesting Idea!. The market for these is probably very small but it's a neat idea non the less.

[thlampcompanybaldoc]

great stuff but

ours are even better

[Coiltec]

According to some internet shops, the 5 watt lamps deliver only 150 lumens.

This is VERY ineffective for a LED lamp: There are LEDs which generate more than 500 lumens out of 5 watts...

And the manufacturer says the 5W Liquid LED is compareable to a 40W light bulb. Don't they know that a 40W bulb has about 400 lumens?!

[FlakeSE]

@Coiltec the longer overall operating time makes up for it, consider this lightbulb a solution for specific environments.

[firestar9999]

liquid and electricity? BRILLIANT because those two aren't dangerously conductive!!

[sparky3489]

@firestar9999 There are a few non-conductive liquids in existence. Besides, LEDs are low voltage devices.

[robs104]

@firestar9999 Mineral oil for one is not conductive. Go search for mineral oil submerged PC... Pretty damn cool.

[Lunas2525]

they seem to be available now on amazon for 26.99 however they are the equivalent of a 25 watt incandescent. I need a replacement for a 26 watt cfl or 100 watt incandescent

[stephmc111]

will these bulbs be available or are they prototypes

[killthemwithfirelol]

My eyes!!! >.<

[GostosoSPbr]

@delonge5000 - LoL...... I think you will start to grow in the dark...

[rfsent5]

@delonge5000, nice imagination... But they'd just bounce a few times since they'd be made of plastic due to the low temperatures of LED's. Imagine being able to take an LED light bulb and throw it at the floor and nothing happens to it, unless you throw super hard :-).

[Exanimis11]

@rfsent5 High point of light temperature is one of the worst problems with LED. Why do you think they all have cooling fins on the drivers and the back of the boards. The liquid here is used for cooling.

[ElRazico]

We had 2 or 3 samples of this bulbs and all ran ouf of liquid soon

[illustriouschin]

This is pretty fucking cool, I hate the depressing yellow light of incandescent bulbs and this looks much nicer! Where can we buy?

[TheMisterchip]

simply but amazing....

[xaIkyrie]

Where can i get those? Also being l.e.d. i assume they last a LONG time but still gotta ask. ty

[arl7d]

what if it blows up..then harmful liquid's gonna sputter everywhere!!!

[KingOfTheBeyond23]

@arl7d

!

D:

[articfreez55]

judging by the whale on the wall its whale oil

[ZaneIsRandom]

Are they still covered in glass? Because if so when i drop them I now need both a broom and a paper towel.

[NoyzyBoyZ3]

I don't understand why you need a liquid LED.

[cobrachoppergirl]

I think the primary idea with these is not cooling the leds, but to get a soft, diffused light that won't hurt your eyes if you accidentally look at them directly. Diffused light is more useful in common household lighting applications, or in photography where you do not want to create shadows behind your subject.

[x7r00p3r]

@cobrachoppergirl yeah, or for your opium den, just add a red filter and you're good =]

[lardo444]

fill a light bulb with liquid dish soap, because of the surfactants it will explode. be careful.

peace, lardo.

[alabank]

whats the point of having a liquid globe?? is there anybody who is looking at their globes at home???

[DackIsBack]

WHAO COOOOL!!!

but... why? any reason, besides nerdy satisfaction?

[aljaz55]

cooling. Read the "Highest Rated Comments" above.

[universetechnique]

Remember I was here.Thai

[enjoynocturne]

@rctsos

ah ya? where do you thing LG and Samsung come from? -.-

[tayler268]

good quality led lights at LEDLIGHTSWORLDCOM

[rocktron2000]

Is the liquid Republican tears shed over having to use less shitty light bulbs?

[johnknoefler]

@rocktron2000 conservative people are usually more apt to own businesses and save money and work for a living. So they are most thrifty and most conservatives I know jump at the chance to save money by switching out incandesant bulbs for floresent lights. . Look at all the money Al Gore wastes on his mansions and jet rides.

[wjm911]

freakin' beautiful

[vambreace]

good idea! use cooling liquid for the led bulb. it lets use power-full leds in tiny space without worrying about huge aluminum heat sink that we see in most manufactured household led bulb. at the same time the liquid spread the heat on the entire glass form and use like an external heat sink for transfer the heat generated to the outer ambient, it is an smart way to do it!!!!

[jaesungauzakim]

so those liquid will keep the LEDs cooler, extending its lifetime

[moveEcritik]

genius

[firebeetlese]

the point of liquid i thing its a wider light angle instead using lenses and if using high power led might help cooling

[Deanzsyclone]

what's the point of the liquid?????

[KRAFTWERK2K6]

it works as a cooling liquid

[profinuyasha]

original LED Bulb's lifetime is 20,000 but this is 45,000 hours with liquid

[GostosoSPbr]

@profinuyasha - Lol 45,000 Hours on a product from China? HA-HA (By Nelson)

[Bracerjack]

@profinuyasha

Because the liquid cool it ?

[otaku3d]

@Deanzsyclone light dispersion

[paul204533]

whoa? wat? lskdaghjkaildgh

[junits15]

cool, i saw this in popular science

[j7x54]

whats the fluid in the bulb?

[therealromster]

@j7x54 the liquid inside is harmless paraffin oil that has been tested and certified safe to UL and ROHS standards.

[madadivad1986]

I guess I'm confused...why would you want a liquid-filled light bulb?

[MrModMe]

I think its because its an LED, the water is there to help disperse the light. Using an LED is a much more efficient method than conventional light bulbs. I agree with you though, it is kind of a strange idea.

[Lokivoid]

Nope, The point of the paraffin oil(not water) is to disperse heat away from the LED across the volume of the glass bulb, in short its a passive heatsink.

[goguda55]

But what's the point in having a "heatsink" if LED's generate almost no heat?

[Lokivoid]

Thats far from the truth, all LED's that consume 1watt or more require a heatsink. Do not confuse common 0.04watt LED's with HPLEDs like the ones in this video.

[goguda55]

Okay. Sorry I didn't really know that...

[Pyroscopy]

uhh yeah that is what I assumed but isn't it useless with LED. Low energy usually means low heat. I mean using this teh on those old bulb lights would of worked so much better

[Lokivoid]

@Pyroscopy 10+watt (Ampree x Volts = watts, Think of it this way a Stun gun use's 3watt's DC) so in short 10watt's is a good chunk of energy, wile it may seem like alot by househould AC standards. Most heat is generated by resistance. The other issue with high powered LED's is they become brighter at higher temps due to themeral conductivity, However this has the cost of dramaticly reduceing the lifespan. But by all means pick up a cheap 3watt luxeon diode and find out for your self :P.

[BackToTheFutureMovie]

yea water does help disperse the light however, really there is almost no advantage to this except maybe the water keeps it cool for a short ammount of time before it starts to heat up all together. people just want to make stupid things nowadays even though it isnt a scientific breakthrough.

[Pyroscopy]

IDK but I want one. I mean don't you? I was gonna say to keep the temp down but LED equals low energ consumption equals low temp.

[Lokivoid]

@Pyroscopy Go buy your self a 10w led hold it in your hand and run 10V 1000mA DC into it and let me know how your "low energy consumption equals low temp" theory works out :P. Truth of the matter is net total of energy is only part of the equation you have to take into the account of resistance of electrons and process of how photons interact. Best way for you to find out without 2ed degree burns is go to mouser and read the datasheets for high watt LED's such as ave run temp and max tolerance

[Pyroscopy]

I had no idea..."the more you know" XD

[Karvenate]

Sorry people this is for itachiuchiha0818

[MattThe3rd]

this is stupid, because if you drop this, not only do u have broken glass, but water too.

[wtfhacktagger101]

unless you make it shatter proof :D

[hujtotwojstary]

po huj komu coś takiego...

[strgzr53]

ok so what exactly is the point of the liquid? does it cool does it make it less bright?

[sasquach18990]

the liquid is oil and its used 2 cool th ebulb they make pure white an warm whit from tube, mushroom and globe with e14 and e27 bases

[azrial4421]

its a way to fuck someone up when they turn on the lights.

[robinhelmde]

whats the point of the liquid?

[st3vonoob]

You cannot boost energy... basic physics. The water scatters the light produced by the LED and gives the light a softer appearance.

[hugestomper]

it´s for cooling the internal LED

[TravvyG]

Awesome! Does these guys make Warm White ones? =)

[azrial4421]

fill a light bulb up with gasoline, works the same.

[ovatharim]

always wanted to try that

[laserman55901]

@azrial4421 smart, lets risk a huge fire hazard.

[azrial4421]

@laserman55901 ummm that wasnt serious, didnt think mentally challenged people would take it to heart...again do not do that..pfff

[laserman55901]

@azrial4421 I was joking as well.

[azrial4421]

@laserman55901 I wasnt joking... put gasoline in a light bulb ok

[flexer122]

@azrial4421 probably if you filled a light bulb with gasoline and try to turn it on wont it blow up !!!???

[azrial4421]

@flexer122 I am not responsible for lack of common sense, be smart and dont do that

[flexer122]

@azrial4421 alright sorry wait youve done it is it better than a regular 1

[IwillhonorGod]

@azrial4421 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Ytherenonamesleft138]

@azrial4421 lol yeah you do that

[mustangrules]

@azrial4421 lol!!!

[iani103]

@azrial4421 Yea, except you might die in an awesome orgy of blood and gore, but... still the same :D

[Unusedname1988]

@azrial4421 if you want to blow your place up

[azrial4421]

@Unusedname1988 or get rid of an enemy, lights on!.....Boom Lights out

[kismo94]

@azrial4421 hahah nice

[k323r]

and post em to america.

[maxsmell]

@azrial4421 I TRIED IT N IT BLEW UP WTF

[Xxoo0o0o0ooxX]

OK found them for $35.00 but thats not to bad you will save $150.00 A year

[laserman55901]

@Xxoo0o0o0ooxX that estimate seems..........high. But then again, they consume at least ohhh...........20-90 watts less

[Xxoo0o0o0ooxX]

OK where do you get these? I want my hole house lit with these.

[paranormaalutrecht]

one sentence: VERY VERY UGLY

[EnidaIris]

u0p

[twebb72]

what kind of draw do these have? (power consumption)

[DoidleProductions]

Unless you're an asshole enough to drop one of these...

[frajkhax]

Why Are You Typing Like This? Are You Mentally Challenged Or Something

[ciscokitty8]

lol, when i read your comments, i think of Caboose from Red vs. Blue :D

[avaiboot]

just if you are an asshole to drop one..

[AlienRelics]

OK, it isn't really a "liquid" LED, it is liquid -cooled- LEDs. Very nice! Or should I say, very cool!

Heat is the enemy of electronics and heat is the killer when trying to run LEDs at higher currents to get more light. So either the LEDs are completely sealed in some encapsulant, or it is a non-conductive liquid.

[ciscokitty8]

ur a flake, pokemonfan12456

[itachiuchiha0818]

you bitch im a real pokemon fan alll of the pokemon games i allready play it im beter den you 1m% pokemon fan i no all about pokemon all of it you see im better then you you son of a bitch go to hell

[ciscokitty8]

oooookkkk.....*locks you in a padded soundproof room* how old are you? pokemon? seriously....

[qeadzc33]

and whats wrong with pokemon, its a game like any other.

[jon9879]

hey now i know plenty of old men who play pokemon..... but then again most of them have been on to catch a predator with chris hanson too...

[THEkidYOUallKNOW24]

ur making fun of him because he knows less about pokemon than u? NERD!!!!!

[Karvenate]

Well fuck you hore for being a chinese son of a bitch keeping his mouth open. Fuck,i don't give a shit ass of your pokemon.you sit in that mother fucking lazy ass of yours and sink down to hell

[barker888]

pokemon is GAY

[HaloHedgehog22]

lol

[rutaku]

this is pretty much like a neon light, only the gas is replaced with liquid

[SheerPandemonium]

No. The only similarity is that they both emit light.

[avaiboot]

what? you created it? or the neon?

[avaiboot]

i totaly agre with you because its true!

i dont know why these idiots gave you a -7

[darkchild256]

same, if i drop one gotta clean up twice the stuff, and no on who comments on this vid can say you have never dropped or broken a light bulb

[CmGHaures]

hmm, the liquid LED seems alot brighter than the normal ones