it's so cool to see the ICs metagame progress over the years. I think this was the first time I saw anything "handoff" related and thought "that's never gonna work"
The thing with chaingrabbing if your opponent knows how to DI, apart from chars like the spaceys, chaingrabbing will seldom get more than 2-3 iterations. This Z tossing seems to be an ideal setup for whats called a ledge chain grab which as the name suggests can only be done near a ledge but is inescapable (bar pichu) and this move seems to cover a lot of ground to get to the edge.
actually if you do it right, you can easily get them to killing percentage by the time you reach the edge, provided you do a few blizzards with nana. then you just dsmash/fsmash and goodbye
sorry can you explain just how you can get to killing percentage? 'few blizzards with nana' doesn't really explain anything. lol even though that sounds really condescending it's not, i'm just curious. The thing about Z tossing is that after popo throws to nana, providing she isn't near an edge, her throw will be completely random so i have no idea how you can get a killing percentage with z tossing alone.
Actually, Wobbles apparently uses this in matches now. I watched of video where he pulled off something like an f-throw > d-throw > f-throw > b-throw > f-smash on a Fox. >_>
Whoa, that's cool. I've thought about picking up Ice Climbers - even just to know them a little, but they've always seemed so intimidating though...I'll do it eventually. What's this TGM combo video on one of the other posts?
Hmm... very stylish, definite mindgame fodder, although I don't see it being very practical competitive-wise. Why toss to Nana for her to throw them when you can just chain throw/wobble them yourself? Although...
Hey, you should see if you could use this to take the opponent when Nana accidentally grabs them; I hate it when that happens. That might be useful...
Why use it? Because i think ICs that can just chain-throw and wobble are garbage. i won't do them for the sole purpose of showing people how powerful ICs are in an actual fight.
It's pretty sad what constitues a "good" climbers player nowadays.
Chain-throwing and wobbling are just two of the more powerful weapons in a Climber's arsenal, but alone they're worthless... if all you can do is moves from grab (Wobble, chain-throw, even Z-tossing I'm afraid) and find yourself against an opponent who doesn't leave openings for grabs, their's not much can be done for the ICs. That's why there's the other de-sync trixies out there to help confuse the opponent...
it's so cool to see the ICs metagame progress over the years. I think this was the first time I saw anything "handoff" related and thought "that's never gonna work"
I was damn wrong
ConnorSC2 9 months ago
i found this "chaingrab" today while kicking lvl 1 bowsers xD
its epic with 3 forward-grabs in a row and forward arial offstage... just epic xD
Noggilein 1 year ago
loving the music
likemy 1 year ago
its always good to hear liquid dnb druing a tutorial...its nice
NocturnalistV 2 years ago
whats the point? why not just chain grab?
smashbrosking6 3 years ago
chain grabbing only works on vertain charaters, seems like this works on every character
LVLEDup 3 years ago
you can do the freeze glitch when you side b while nana is holding the opponent.
jyustinkyu 3 years ago
The thing with chaingrabbing if your opponent knows how to DI, apart from chars like the spaceys, chaingrabbing will seldom get more than 2-3 iterations. This Z tossing seems to be an ideal setup for whats called a ledge chain grab which as the name suggests can only be done near a ledge but is inescapable (bar pichu) and this move seems to cover a lot of ground to get to the edge.
schoin 2 years ago
actually if you do it right, you can easily get them to killing percentage by the time you reach the edge, provided you do a few blizzards with nana. then you just dsmash/fsmash and goodbye
spearofjesus 2 years ago
sorry can you explain just how you can get to killing percentage? 'few blizzards with nana' doesn't really explain anything. lol even though that sounds really condescending it's not, i'm just curious. The thing about Z tossing is that after popo throws to nana, providing she isn't near an edge, her throw will be completely random so i have no idea how you can get a killing percentage with z tossing alone.
schoin 2 years ago
good stuff
teknofuzion87 3 years ago
hello Zjiin,may i ask what track you used for this vid?
tehubernam 3 years ago
Does this work in Brawl too?
I would think so, but I've never tried.
LordYggdrasill 3 years ago
finally someone better then me with ice climbers
odacepkezen 3 years ago
Actually, Wobbles apparently uses this in matches now. I watched of video where he pulled off something like an f-throw > d-throw > f-throw > b-throw > f-smash on a Fox. >_>
ycz13 4 years ago
Dashgrab to freeze glitch ftw, m i rite?
ycz13 4 years ago 2
Whoa, that's cool. I've thought about picking up Ice Climbers - even just to know them a little, but they've always seemed so intimidating though...I'll do it eventually. What's this TGM combo video on one of the other posts?
OmniNero 4 years ago
Hmm... very stylish, definite mindgame fodder, although I don't see it being very practical competitive-wise. Why toss to Nana for her to throw them when you can just chain throw/wobble them yourself? Although...
Hey, you should see if you could use this to take the opponent when Nana accidentally grabs them; I hate it when that happens. That might be useful...
ChronoSquare 4 years ago
Why use it? Because i think ICs that can just chain-throw and wobble are garbage. i won't do them for the sole purpose of showing people how powerful ICs are in an actual fight.
It's pretty sad what constitues a "good" climbers player nowadays.
Zjiin 4 years ago
Chain-throwing and wobbling are just two of the more powerful weapons in a Climber's arsenal, but alone they're worthless... if all you can do is moves from grab (Wobble, chain-throw, even Z-tossing I'm afraid) and find yourself against an opponent who doesn't leave openings for grabs, their's not much can be done for the ICs. That's why there's the other de-sync trixies out there to help confuse the opponent...
ChronoSquare 4 years ago
could you do another grab aafter that, and have a chainthrow until you reach the edge?
squaminator 4 years ago
really cool stuff.
numberonenacho 4 years ago
also whats the song name
numberonenacho 4 years ago
Team Sleep~ Breathless
Zjiin 4 years ago
I feel like I'm watching the TGM combo video, except not nearly as godly.
shapular 4 years ago
lol, oh god. Nothing could be THAT godly.
Zjiin 4 years ago
LOL this sets up perfectly for a freeze glitch......dont get any ideas.
nameformyskreen 4 years ago
Nice music, cool techneque. Thanks for the video! ^_^
ZaneFleia 4 years ago
Trix much? I think so. Too Good.
DaBearX7 4 years ago