Ran out of room in my previous comment but if anyone is interested or confused, the Vertex 3 series SSDs are made by OCZ.
They are incredibly fast and will nearly cap your drive controller's maximum speed. Don't bother getting a Vertex 3 if you plan to put it in a system with a Sata3 board as the performance will be nearly halved! That is, unless you plan to put the drive into a different system later. However, this also may not be a wise investment as SSD prices are constantly dropping.
SSD prices are starting to level out and in future, HDDs will most likely be eliminated.
Your motherboard or CPU can become a bottleneck with faster drives. Have a decent CPU and a board with a Sata6 controller.
Benefits of a faster drive are shorter load times (including system boot) and faster transfer speeds. A faster drive does not affect gaming performance, only load times.
Install your OS and games on an SSD and store media on a larger HDD.
@Delta9Fly If you haven't gotten an answer to your question yet — SSD is by far better performance.
However, if you're talking reliability/longevity, HDD MAY have the advantage, depending who you buy from. SOME SSDs may fail early, so you need to pay an EXTRA pretty penny to ensure you get an SSD which has proven longevity.
OCZ for instance, has unfortunately had a bad reputation of getting many premature failures (or at least fast ones).
In my personal opinion. If you have the money to spend on ssds. Go ahead. People who have an average sized wallet like me should just wait for the capacity of ssd's to increase the the prices to drop because currently 1tb hdds are about the same price as like a 300gb sdd.
i knew someone had to be as nerdy as i am, to ask this question.
i didnt know they had slower write times that sucks =/
ive got a 500gb solid state drive in my mac book pro, had such nightmares in the past with regular HD's crashing on me, i like that i dont have to worry anymore.
Nice video. I have an OCZ Agility 2 60GB SSD and I love it! I have a video of my Windows 7 boot time after about 3 months of usage on my channel, check it out.
so if has faster read speed but slower write speed, basically that mean getting something from the drive will be quicker but putting something on there will take longer right? how does that work.
@pct87 what you said is correct, but I don't know why you'd ask "how does that work". Try writing the alphabet on a piece of paper (or on the computer), then try reading the alphabet, same sort of principle why reading is slower than writing. Sometimes it can potentially be backwards, but don't think too much about it.
Generally, modern consumer SSDs are much faster at both (sequential) reads AND WRITES than hard drives though, in case you did not know.
@MsHojat what I meant was when its compared to a hd.
the way I heard it was that compared to a normal hd, a ssd has a faster read speed, but for some reason has a slower write speed, I was wondering if there was a specific reason that, cause being slower one way and faster in another way didnt make sense to me. (maybe thats not what he meant, but thats the way I heard it)
but your right, i really dont know much about ssd's, this video was actually me starting to look it up.
@pct87 like I said in my reply, modern SSDs have both faster reads and writes than hard drives.
at one point in time SSDs were almost certainly slower (even in reading maybe) than HDDs for large reads or writes, but they have ALWAYS been faster for multiple small reads and writes.
Some older drives might have slow sequential writes, but even then that's generally slow for an SSD, but not much or any slower than HDD
Most modern SSD now have over 3 times the sequential read or write speed of HDD
@KINGhotaru11 Back up and slave are VERY different terms. If you meant master or slave:
1. there is virtually no difference between master and slave in computing
2. Master-slave convention is used on PARALLEL ATA cords (IDE), which is old technology. No modern (or even decent) SSDs use parallel ATA, they use serial ATA (SATA)
When it comes to back-ups, SSDs are a terrible/stupid choice for backing up in most situations. If you don't have much to back up and don't care about cost, then it's OK.
@danielhillstv it's a terribly outdated video, read the (currently) second comment from the top (second-most thumbs up) which I wrote.
SSDs are definitely worth an investment now, especially if it's for high performance systems (1500 USD and up). The key is to use them for Operating System, and most-used programs, and get a HARD DRIVE FOR STORAGE.
Just ordered a custom build with a 60Gb OCZ Vertex 2E SSD for win7 and MS office, and two 7200rpm 1TB drives for all other uses. I think thats the sweet spot. The SSD is £90 and the HDDs are £40 each from ebuyer. Thats all your storage done, and lightning fast too.
I thought I knew the difference between the two after viewing this video, but I came upon a SATA Solid State Raid 0, what is this and how is it different from either SATA or SSD?
In essence, a 2TB drive would cost about the same as a 64GB SSD. Considering that the extra cost of building the PC will be only 5-10% more if building a 1000-2000$ PC, that's an extremely good buy, because you're going to get an ASS LOAD of better performance than just the 5% extra paid, unlike many other components (sound card, extra memory/memspeed, special motherboard etc.)
Very well. I would use the SSD for just applications and the OS(es), which so far on my HDD has taken up around 160GB. So I would have to get a larger SSD.
@Cyb0rgasm there are hybrid hdd's with ssd components which gives you the speed of an ssd with the storage and price of an hdd the problem is they're still very new and still experamental so there's still quite a bit of bugs
Only problem if theres an EMP field, nuke attack nearby or a solar storm, SSD's get compleatly trashed byond recovary making them unsuitiable for milatary use at this time.
@Nvidiaguides the military and aerospace industries do use SSDs actually, Military applications need a high mean time between failures which SSDs provide because they are more reliable, they also have greater ability to withstand shock, vibration and temperature ranges. NO drive would survive a Nuke or EMP... also nuclear weapons have only ever been used twice in war, so for the casual user this is not an issue
I have a 2000 dollar computer I built myself and I can still see performance drops. My processer and everything are fast as hell, but it all gets limited by how fast my hard drive can read info
Careful guys! I can bet anything that this guy's opinion is different about SSDs now. What he said was 2 years ago! Since then, some real epic Solid State drives have been released, while their prices have all fallen as well.
Anyone who is not going for bottom budget (under 800-900$) PC should at least get one good 32GB SSD to install operating system and most commonly used applications. Finding a good SSD can be tricky right now though, so make sure you do research! Cheapest ones are quite bad.
@MsHojat I believe the best SSD so far come from Intel (so far). While other brands really do tend to lose their performance not too long after the 1st use and become no better than a regular hard drive
@dodgers2213 Naw man you haven't been keeping up with SSD news. For a while Intel had an advantage where it would do clean-up without having to run any programs to keep it in good operating shape, but I'm pretty sure all SSDs do that now, at least if you use Windows 7. Intel SSDs are definitely good, especially if you can get them for a good price, but there is still the downside of having slower sequential writes on some of their drives.
tbh you could get a 1000 or 1200 pound high end computer for 500 to 600 pounds from ebuyer, and a 64 GB SSD is like £150 whereas a two terabyte SATAII is £45. That's pretty significant in prices, even after all the price drops and even while looking on ebuyer which is a warehouse that sells high end stuff cheap.
@Edge0fPain Yes but SSDs are not used for storage (unless you want them to - ie. have lots of money to spend)
The point of SSDs is to run the OS and most used applications (or all applications). For the rest (data/media storage), it doesn't matter if you use an SSD or not really. The point is to use two drives, a 32-128GB SSD to house the programs, and then 200GB-2TB+ hard drives for the rest.
SSDs are good because they increase performance but speeding up random IO. Load times are a lot faster
That's exactly how I would use an SSD and Hard Drive in the same system but the price difference is still too much to be worth it. I could just take care of my system instead. I know a HDD will never be as fast as an SSD so that's why I'll get one when their prices are around what they should be.
@Edge0fPain but secondly, I have have not seen 2TB drives that cheap unless they are maybe on a special sale or are 5400RPM ones which are slower and a bad choice.
Secondly, a good (but cheap) 64GB SSD is no where near that price, at least where I live (no reason SSDs would be more where you live if HDDs are the same price or less).
64GB GREAT SSD, for 95 USD (120$ before rebate, but these rebates are rather common). Even without rebates, 115 USD (same great quality/speed).
And I've already mentioned that as Ebuyer are a warehouse they have high end hardware for cheap prices, unlike if you go to say PCSpecialist or Alienware, or PCworld. The two TB HDD is 7200 RPM and SATAII. That's not bad.
@MsHojat 32GIG SSD for an OS drive...yeah right...just watch that 32 gig get fully consumed by your OS files after installation. a 64bit version of windows 7 already takes up 20GIG but it grows up to 20GIG larger from all the temporary files etc that the system needs. then there's the importance of having system restore as well ...heck by then your drive will have consumed 50GIG+. if your buying an SSD dont bother about anything less than 60GIG
@iamthewizard2 You're talking about W7 x64. Just because one OS takes up a lot of space doesn't mean all do. 32-bit W7/Vista, or even WinXP (granted it has problems namely for gaming) are all considerably less space. Another example would be to use Linux on an SSD.
Lastly, I am using Win 7 64 bit on my 32GB SSD (because of games/performance). I have it tweaked so that it's taking up only 6-7GB of space though.
That said, sure 64GB works too, especially now that they're cheaper.
SSD is good for windows system or caching files when using a multimedia applications... and also for gaming.. but not for storage... SATA is still good for storage... but 5 years from now or less, this SSD would be the next common HD in computer systems....
Well done, a very concise comparison and very helpful. I am building a new machine (configuring it for programming, not gaming), and thinking about an SSD, but as with all technologies, the price v/s performance ratio is skewed during the early days of making this tech commercial... Thanks for the input :-).
people talk alot about how fast ssd drives are, but nobody talks when ssd drives fail within short period of time (mostly because of shitty controller I said)...mmm, I wonder...there are so many feedback even in newegg how frustrated people with failed ssd that they just bought.
@kwalk30 that is certainly true, dunno how long the lifespan is of a SSD though, depends on the brand ofc. I know from my own experience i bought a PQI ssd mlc and it didn't even last 2 weeks. So bought a lemon on that one.
Raptors won't ever be faster compared to SSD. You said you can do 2 Raptors and do Raid 0. Which can also be done in a SSD configuration and be that much faster. Actually, 2 SSD in Raid 0 = Ridiculous!
Thanks very much for a straight to the point, well explained video. Got all the main points in there without going "on and on". Great video. I'll stick with the SATA on my Dell configuration then. Thanks a lot.
hey im using a g5 mac for hi end recording.......should i go to a ssd..??....for main program....logic pro 8...??.can you call,....6613261604........ask for tee.
my computer is working really slow after i formated it 3 times any idea why. i think my hard drive is screwed. and my desktop is using a Pata drive and give me a nice brand name to replace it coz previous i got a western union sata for my other pc and i noticed a lag meaning it gets struck quit often.please help
hi guys, i saw ocz colossus series 120gb from newegg. they have faster read and write speed. the company claim it can go up to 260mb/s for both the read and write speed. it cost 529 before tax. please give us a review or link if any of you ever use the product. thanks.
Deathcoder is right. Write speeds may be true in the past, But, Most newer SSDs wright just as fast, or faster than a High perfromance 32MB spinning HD. I can honestly say theres no way i would ever put my OS on a spinning drive again. my OCZ 30Gb vertex is reporting 205MB/s read, 90MBs Write .05 access time on avg. Its not the read spead that makes them so fast as it is no Spin up time to access of find a file. Everything is faster, even games loading that are on spinning drives.
Go ahead, try an SSD drive for yourself, and watch Windows XP boot up in less than 10 seconds on a 4-5 year old laptop (Centrino 1.5Ghz with 1GB RAM, KingSpec PATA SSD Drive 32GB) or try an Intel M-25 on an i7 booting Windows 7 in less than 15 seconds (i7 920, 12GB RAM, OCZ Vertex 60GB) and then see if you'd like to go back to Mechanical hard drives ever again.
@wildreams Of course.. SSD still has its advantage like low power comsumption, low noise low heat, high durability (against vibration etc) But still for bang for the buck and gaming desktop, RAID 0 still the way to go atm.
We never specified the usage of the drives. Now you're saying "gaming" and you're including price as a factor. Like I said before, price is a consequence of being a newer technology. For a gamer, I understand the logic, if your RAID breaks u simply install the game again. I wouldn't use RAID 0 to store sensitive data though. Actually, the right application for SSD's as of today is as a system's drive to boot the OS and store files that require heavy reads.
@deathcoder Boot drive is also what I'm looking for. Now, I admit my knowledge in this issue is not a lot. I need your advice, as a boot drive, how much space would you need? Comparing a single SSD as boot drive and 2, HDD in RAID 0, which functions better (faster) as a boot drive? Is it worth to install a low capacity high priced SSD? Thanks:)
Well, it all depends on what are you using your computer for. The boot times I mentioned above are real for one SSD. I have tried using RAID 0 with two 1TB Seagate Barracuda and I didn't notice much of a difference in boot time, even though in the benchmarks I ran the transfer speed was almost double the speed of a single drive.
Still, My OCZ Vertex blew them away with just one SSD. at 210Mbps Avg speed.
Price is a consequence of a newer technology. Sometimes I bump into stubborn people like yourself. Are you actually defending spinning drives versus SSD's? From the times of the famous RAMDRIVE.SYS on MS-DOS 6 I always thought about having a HDD made out of "RAM (or ROM)" (back in the day) because I knew HDD where awfully slow and clearly the bottleneck of every system. And, yet, you are defending them! You might be arguing just for the sake of argument because you know it's a lost battle
@deathcoder I'm sure SSD will eventually phase out HDD, but maybe not just yet, I would not recommend anybody to go SDD.. Of course, if you can afford it, why not? It is an overall more size and power efficient, cooler, not to mention faster device.
People mistakenly thinks that SSD's are slower than HDD in writes when in fact, SSD's, even the slowest ones (except a couple of freaks of engineering out there) are faster than mechanical hard drives.
Right now, SSD is the way forward. I am still surprised when I think about it, that we still have mechanical devices like hard drives in existence. I think the main reason that SSDs are taking a while is not only technology reasons, but probably all the fucking formats pricks fighting for a piece of the technology royalties and all that crap. Hard Drive technology should have been binned a while ago.....
TRIM is the answer (for now) eventually, they will find other algorithms for SSD's to self organize their data better and become more efficient. write cycles, yes, they estimate that even in a business environment if you write 20GB a day, an SSD would still last about 8-10 years... I think by that time you'd probably have another drive. plus, nobody writes 20GB a day in a personal computer (A DAY! EVERYDAY)
@deathcoder Really? thats cool, regarding the write speed, I have nothing against SSD, I even consider installing one of my own, but it is only the price (and the wear issue) that is holding me back. Ultimately, if the added price does not equate to similar added performance, then it is not worth it on my budget system.
I know the price is forbidding for me SSD's are still expensive, but man, once you try one, you'll never go back to spin hard drives again...TRUST ME ON THAT, Buy an OCZ Vertex Turbo, or an Intel M25, You wont be dissapointed
a few years ago would of cost $10k for 512mb SSD. cuz them ram chips there useing were not cheap, now they are but there charging you a premium then in a couple years there gonna be dirt cheap SSD for current sizes.
@ seansfc where did you get those prices!!!!!!!........ here in my country 60gb solid state drive cost is 9000 to 12000 pesos (thats 200$ to 250$)!!!!!!..... all you need to do is to fine a friend here in my country to do you order
I have a digital camera has flash memory like you mention is simliar to a Soild State Drive. I had the digital camera for 5 years now it only saves about 30 pics out of 200 pics. Most of them are lost with a blue screen. I think the soild state drive wouldn't last a life time. So they should drop the price less then a hard drive.
If you are planning to use your ssd as a drive for OS/software, the most important factor is random read/write performance, NOT sequential.
Also, do NOT buy anything with a Jmicron controller, its not worth it. If you want a solid drive, go with intel, if you are on a bit of a tighter budget, look into the ocz vertex series. may-23/09
they have not been in the limelight that long. I agree though. I think at the moment they are still a bit expensive being not widley developed.
I think when they catch on and developers solve the speed issues in a few years then it will be a different answer.
You need only look at the usb flash drives to see the rapid increase in speed and size to know this tech is more than certainly going to replace hard drives in the future.
3 - 4 years. Thy will surley be standard fitment to new pcs
WD Raptor drives are not very good performers - and they throw off a ton of heat....I've tested a pair of Raptors in RAID0 vs a pair of 7200RPM WDD SATAII drives in RAID0, and the raptors ONLY win in seek sime - the avg read spead of the raptors was 109Mbps and the standard drives were 108...the max burst on the raptors was 192, and the standard drivers were 195....and at less than 1/2 the cost, I dont know why ANYONE would buy Raptors...
Thats true, but capacity is also very important, and right now, late 2009, SSDs are still ridiculously expensive, as are WD Raptors. In fact, Ive got a single Hitachi Deskstar giving average 95MBs read. Thats comparable to the Raptor, but the seek time at about (real life)14ms is double the raptor's (real life) 7ms. A 300GB Raptor would cost over 3 times what I paid for the Hitachi. Is it worth it? Not to me. I still think cheap drives in RAID0 will give performance with capacity and low cost.
Expenisve as heck.. I rather spend money somewhere like on a good old reliable mechanical HDD from WD. Yes, they have more of a chance of dying than SSD but thats why they invented dvd burners to backup your data.
How come software like Adobe CS4 will not install on a solid state drive? I use Photoshop for my business and i need the extra durability of a solid state drive.
You need to understand the use of a SSD. Which is mobile computing... Increased battery life and decreased boot/shutdown times. I have seen a notebook with a 7200RPM drive vs. a SSD and the SSD booted a minute faster. If you are looking for the fastest and least power hungry go with SSD. Can't wait for 09' to roll around... We are about to see 256GB SSDz. This post was done in July of 08'. So, for that I am not going to call you a complete fucking retard.
thats interesting. I have seen two MSI wind netbooks side by side, and they had the same load times, but the SSD got spanked by the HDD in write times. Weird.
I'm not debating the fact that each solid state drive is different with different read/write times. That's why personally I would wait till mid-09 to look into these drives. Then, I would wait for a performance round up on some review sight and cross reference the results on a few sources.
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Could you please learn how to talk like a normal human being who can flow words together without having a half second delay between every word. Its incredibly obnoxious to listen to and I'm quite sure you are aware of this problem.
Interesting how NONE of the SSD tests show a real world multi-tasking environment.
I have an OCZ SSD 64 and it totally fails, as soon as my PC is doing 2 or more read/write multi tasks I get horrendous lock ups. It is going back to the shop as unfit for purpose.
Well I decided to spend my money, I just bought an OCZ Core SSD 64 so hopefully it'll prove to be a nice upgrade but also to support the new technology I want to see succeed also. Performance so far is greatly improved over the 7200rpm SATA HDD I was using but I guess time will tell.
The good thing about SSD is that they can never fail by mechanical parts, which probably renders lifecycle higher than we will live on this planet. It costs around 600-700 for a 120GB SSD right now...so, unless you really want to have a drive that's fast, and have the money for it, go for it.
Your great man, ive been watching your videos for quite some time and with your over knowledge, you've gained my subscription. Keep up the good work bud!
Could you not buy a small capacity SSD just to put your operating system and other system software on, meaning you would get an extremely fast boot up speed?
every one says to raid 0 velociraptors thats what maxishine uses but I've heard the drives are so fast the overhead from the raid 0 actually makes them slower wtf is the deal
At the moment SSD's only advantage is access times. Proper tests have shown the manufacturers claims of low power, faster throughput, reliability etc to be basically completely false. Someday, way in the future they will be better and affordable but that day isn't today nor will it be for the foreseeable future...
i would put 2 SSDs in RAID 0 for a boot drive and then several 1TB drives in RAID 5. Currently i still use a pci SCSI hba in my gaming rig for 15,000rpm drives in RAID 0 for boot.
I have a question maybe it allready been but: what is the difference betwen ddr2 and ddr3 and with wich components the ddr3 will work better. and of course some thing about ddr4 when and what should we excpect for
Basically from what I understand is that DDR3 is just a little more memory efficient it can be clocked to 2000mhz(ultra fast), can be made so that one GDDR3 stick can potentially have 16gb, and uses less power to run efficiently not worth $200 a gigabyte more than DDR2 imo. Now when computers use more ram GDDR3 will be the thing to get but now its just not worth it.
can i get a SSD with a window?
cruellordsoth 6 days ago
Ran out of room in my previous comment but if anyone is interested or confused, the Vertex 3 series SSDs are made by OCZ.
They are incredibly fast and will nearly cap your drive controller's maximum speed. Don't bother getting a Vertex 3 if you plan to put it in a system with a Sata3 board as the performance will be nearly halved! That is, unless you plan to put the drive into a different system later. However, this also may not be a wise investment as SSD prices are constantly dropping.
zedd56 3 weeks ago
SSD prices are starting to level out and in future, HDDs will most likely be eliminated.
Your motherboard or CPU can become a bottleneck with faster drives. Have a decent CPU and a board with a Sata6 controller.
Benefits of a faster drive are shorter load times (including system boot) and faster transfer speeds. A faster drive does not affect gaming performance, only load times.
Install your OS and games on an SSD and store media on a larger HDD.
I personally recommend the Vertex 3 series.
zedd56 3 weeks ago
256GB SSD vs. 750GB SATA HDD? Pricing is no issue, just looking for preformance.
Delta9Fly 1 month ago
@Delta9Fly If you haven't gotten an answer to your question yet — SSD is by far better performance.
However, if you're talking reliability/longevity, HDD MAY have the advantage, depending who you buy from. SOME SSDs may fail early, so you need to pay an EXTRA pretty penny to ensure you get an SSD which has proven longevity.
OCZ for instance, has unfortunately had a bad reputation of getting many premature failures (or at least fast ones).
MsHojat 1 week ago
very nicely simplified.... thank you
cedarsliban 3 months ago
PLEASE LOOK AND NOTICE THAT THIS VIDEO IS FROM 2008. SO THAT SHOULD ANWSER YOUR QUESTIONS.
wowjunky07 3 months ago
Write times are NOT slower. That is ancient information. SSDs are two orders of magnitude faster these days.
Christobanistan 4 months ago
@Christobanistan there are slower u mite not notes it
Hi675445 3 months ago
is there any sata and ssd drives? like all in one? that would be cool. like a hybrid drive.
lawnside82 4 months ago
In my personal opinion. If you have the money to spend on ssds. Go ahead. People who have an average sized wallet like me should just wait for the capacity of ssd's to increase the the prices to drop because currently 1tb hdds are about the same price as like a 300gb sdd.
VisualPrefection 5 months ago
what are solid state drives for?
snowydro1 5 months ago
Why do some people have such small SSD's? Like a 32GB? And have a 1TB large hard drive on the side?
gamez101 6 months ago
@gamez101 Because they install their OS on the SSD while their media storage and other crap like that gets stored on the hard drive.
RavenCurrency 5 months ago
Thank you!
NTXStudios 7 months ago
Thank you Rodney!
kelseydavidshryer 8 months ago
i knew someone had to be as nerdy as i am, to ask this question.
i didnt know they had slower write times that sucks =/
ive got a 500gb solid state drive in my mac book pro, had such nightmares in the past with regular HD's crashing on me, i like that i dont have to worry anymore.
AlexMerenkov2 10 months ago
thank you for the video
bananahamikz 10 months ago
thank you for the video
bananahamikz 10 months ago
What is it what you said at 1:19?
scuffieduffie 10 months ago
@scuffieduffie Raid configuration I think.
MouthofSaurons 10 months ago
Nice video. I have an OCZ Agility 2 60GB SSD and I love it! I have a video of my Windows 7 boot time after about 3 months of usage on my channel, check it out.
Jruberti 11 months ago
YOUR"RE ON CRACK MY FRIEND
i saw a video where somebody did a raid with solid state drives and they ripped an entire blu-ray in under 3 seconds.
Trillasecond 11 months ago
30 GB SSD as your System Drive
1 TB HDD as your data drive
FURYTheCount 11 months ago 6
so what do you arguers think about pci ssds
n11lc2 1 year ago
so if has faster read speed but slower write speed, basically that mean getting something from the drive will be quicker but putting something on there will take longer right? how does that work.
pct87 1 year ago
@pct87 what you said is correct, but I don't know why you'd ask "how does that work". Try writing the alphabet on a piece of paper (or on the computer), then try reading the alphabet, same sort of principle why reading is slower than writing. Sometimes it can potentially be backwards, but don't think too much about it.
Generally, modern consumer SSDs are much faster at both (sequential) reads AND WRITES than hard drives though, in case you did not know.
MsHojat 1 year ago
@MsHojat what I meant was when its compared to a hd.
the way I heard it was that compared to a normal hd, a ssd has a faster read speed, but for some reason has a slower write speed, I was wondering if there was a specific reason that, cause being slower one way and faster in another way didnt make sense to me. (maybe thats not what he meant, but thats the way I heard it)
but your right, i really dont know much about ssd's, this video was actually me starting to look it up.
pct87 1 year ago
@pct87 like I said in my reply, modern SSDs have both faster reads and writes than hard drives.
at one point in time SSDs were almost certainly slower (even in reading maybe) than HDDs for large reads or writes, but they have ALWAYS been faster for multiple small reads and writes.
Some older drives might have slow sequential writes, but even then that's generally slow for an SSD, but not much or any slower than HDD
Most modern SSD now have over 3 times the sequential read or write speed of HDD
MsHojat 1 year ago
i was wondering is it possible to make a ssd a back up or a slave...????
KINGhotaru11 1 year ago
@KINGhotaru11 Back up and slave are VERY different terms. If you meant master or slave:
1. there is virtually no difference between master and slave in computing
2. Master-slave convention is used on PARALLEL ATA cords (IDE), which is old technology. No modern (or even decent) SSDs use parallel ATA, they use serial ATA (SATA)
When it comes to back-ups, SSDs are a terrible/stupid choice for backing up in most situations. If you don't have much to back up and don't care about cost, then it's OK.
MsHojat 1 year ago
perfect!!! exactly the kind of videos i look for.. a brief to the point video.. very helpful..
danielhillstv 1 year ago
@danielhillstv it's a terribly outdated video, read the (currently) second comment from the top (second-most thumbs up) which I wrote.
SSDs are definitely worth an investment now, especially if it's for high performance systems (1500 USD and up). The key is to use them for Operating System, and most-used programs, and get a HARD DRIVE FOR STORAGE.
MsHojat 1 year ago
Just ordered a custom build with a 60Gb OCZ Vertex 2E SSD for win7 and MS office, and two 7200rpm 1TB drives for all other uses. I think thats the sweet spot. The SSD is £90 and the HDDs are £40 each from ebuyer. Thats all your storage done, and lightning fast too.
Tossphate 1 year ago
I thought I knew the difference between the two after viewing this video, but I came upon a SATA Solid State Raid 0, what is this and how is it different from either SATA or SSD?
weilwen 1 year ago
In essence, a 2TB drive would cost about the same as a 64GB SSD. Considering that the extra cost of building the PC will be only 5-10% more if building a 1000-2000$ PC, that's an extremely good buy, because you're going to get an ASS LOAD of better performance than just the 5% extra paid, unlike many other components (sound card, extra memory/memspeed, special motherboard etc.)
MsHojat 1 year ago
@MsHojat
Very well. I would use the SSD for just applications and the OS(es), which so far on my HDD has taken up around 160GB. So I would have to get a larger SSD.
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
tysm ^^
Slyuken 1 year ago
Obviously SSD's are the way to go, but for now they're just too damn expensive. For example: 2TB HDD = $180 -- 1TB SSD = $4,400
And yes, there are 1TB SSD's
Cyb0rgasm 1 year ago
@Cyb0rgasm there are hybrid hdd's with ssd components which gives you the speed of an ssd with the storage and price of an hdd the problem is they're still very new and still experamental so there's still quite a bit of bugs
krauser979 1 year ago
Only problem if theres an EMP field, nuke attack nearby or a solar storm, SSD's get compleatly trashed byond recovary making them unsuitiable for milatary use at this time.
Nvidiaguides 1 year ago
@Nvidiaguides the military and aerospace industries do use SSDs actually, Military applications need a high mean time between failures which SSDs provide because they are more reliable, they also have greater ability to withstand shock, vibration and temperature ranges. NO drive would survive a Nuke or EMP... also nuclear weapons have only ever been used twice in war, so for the casual user this is not an issue
adaaaamm 1 year ago
@adaaaamm
Sorry, I didn't mean military use I meant server use. Infact, thats why servers use ECC RAM just incase there is a solar storm on an EMP.
Nvidiaguides 1 year ago
I have a 2000 dollar computer I built myself and I can still see performance drops. My processer and everything are fast as hell, but it all gets limited by how fast my hard drive can read info
karan8624 1 year ago
Careful guys! I can bet anything that this guy's opinion is different about SSDs now. What he said was 2 years ago! Since then, some real epic Solid State drives have been released, while their prices have all fallen as well.
Anyone who is not going for bottom budget (under 800-900$) PC should at least get one good 32GB SSD to install operating system and most commonly used applications. Finding a good SSD can be tricky right now though, so make sure you do research! Cheapest ones are quite bad.
MsHojat 1 year ago 19
@MsHojat I believe the best SSD so far come from Intel (so far). While other brands really do tend to lose their performance not too long after the 1st use and become no better than a regular hard drive
dodgers2213 1 year ago
@dodgers2213 Naw man you haven't been keeping up with SSD news. For a while Intel had an advantage where it would do clean-up without having to run any programs to keep it in good operating shape, but I'm pretty sure all SSDs do that now, at least if you use Windows 7. Intel SSDs are definitely good, especially if you can get them for a good price, but there is still the downside of having slower sequential writes on some of their drives.
MsHojat 1 year ago
@MsHojat I read it somewhere only a few days ago. So, i'm no expert and can very well be wrong lol I just can't wait to buy a new rig with a boss SSD
dodgers2213 1 year ago
@MsHojat
tbh you could get a 1000 or 1200 pound high end computer for 500 to 600 pounds from ebuyer, and a 64 GB SSD is like £150 whereas a two terabyte SATAII is £45. That's pretty significant in prices, even after all the price drops and even while looking on ebuyer which is a warehouse that sells high end stuff cheap.
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
@Edge0fPain Yes but SSDs are not used for storage (unless you want them to - ie. have lots of money to spend)
The point of SSDs is to run the OS and most used applications (or all applications). For the rest (data/media storage), it doesn't matter if you use an SSD or not really. The point is to use two drives, a 32-128GB SSD to house the programs, and then 200GB-2TB+ hard drives for the rest.
SSDs are good because they increase performance but speeding up random IO. Load times are a lot faster
MsHojat 1 year ago
@MsHojat
That's exactly how I would use an SSD and Hard Drive in the same system but the price difference is still too much to be worth it. I could just take care of my system instead. I know a HDD will never be as fast as an SSD so that's why I'll get one when their prices are around what they should be.
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
@Edge0fPain but secondly, I have have not seen 2TB drives that cheap unless they are maybe on a special sale or are 5400RPM ones which are slower and a bad choice.
Secondly, a good (but cheap) 64GB SSD is no where near that price, at least where I live (no reason SSDs would be more where you live if HDDs are the same price or less).
64GB GREAT SSD, for 95 USD (120$ before rebate, but these rebates are rather common). Even without rebates, 115 USD (same great quality/speed).
MsHojat 1 year ago
@MsHojat
And I've already mentioned that as Ebuyer are a warehouse they have high end hardware for cheap prices, unlike if you go to say PCSpecialist or Alienware, or PCworld. The two TB HDD is 7200 RPM and SATAII. That's not bad.
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
@MsHojat 32GIG SSD for an OS drive...yeah right...just watch that 32 gig get fully consumed by your OS files after installation. a 64bit version of windows 7 already takes up 20GIG but it grows up to 20GIG larger from all the temporary files etc that the system needs. then there's the importance of having system restore as well ...heck by then your drive will have consumed 50GIG+. if your buying an SSD dont bother about anything less than 60GIG
iamthewizard2 1 week ago
@iamthewizard2 You're talking about W7 x64. Just because one OS takes up a lot of space doesn't mean all do. 32-bit W7/Vista, or even WinXP (granted it has problems namely for gaming) are all considerably less space. Another example would be to use Linux on an SSD.
Lastly, I am using Win 7 64 bit on my 32GB SSD (because of games/performance). I have it tweaked so that it's taking up only 6-7GB of space though.
That said, sure 64GB works too, especially now that they're cheaper.
MsHojat 1 week ago
SSD is good for windows system or caching files when using a multimedia applications... and also for gaming.. but not for storage... SATA is still good for storage... but 5 years from now or less, this SSD would be the next common HD in computer systems....
aparach 1 year ago
SSD
altonb93 1 year ago
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Ok, this video was posted two years ago, what about an update?
mitrooper 1 year ago
Well done, a very concise comparison and very helpful. I am building a new machine (configuring it for programming, not gaming), and thinking about an SSD, but as with all technologies, the price v/s performance ratio is skewed during the early days of making this tech commercial... Thanks for the input :-).
krishnakvinf 1 year ago
upgrading to an SSD next year! anyone recommend a capacity for me? will be primary drive for system (meaning OS and games)
im thinking in the 128GB-200GB range.
7A1R28 1 year ago
people talk alot about how fast ssd drives are, but nobody talks when ssd drives fail within short period of time (mostly because of shitty controller I said)...mmm, I wonder...there are so many feedback even in newegg how frustrated people with failed ssd that they just bought.
ysatria 1 year ago
Thanks for this, just help me make up my mind which drive to choose on my new AlienWare lapppy. Cheers
marktindal2186 1 year ago
what, slower write, not true on Windows 7 with TRIM technology
MrCrashReboot 1 year ago
BUT THEY ARENT EXPENSIVE..I JUST GOT ONE....200$....AND IT FLYS..!!THANX
bakersfieldmusicnow 1 year ago
just note this vid is from 2008, write times are mutch faster on ssds now then hdd ^^
i bought one OCZ SSD with 250 mbps read and 135mbps write for 160 euros thats about 196us dollar
NLterror6000 1 year ago
What about longevity? I heard SSD degrades over time. Is that right? If so, how long?
kwalk30 1 year ago
@kwalk30 that is certainly true, dunno how long the lifespan is of a SSD though, depends on the brand ofc. I know from my own experience i bought a PQI ssd mlc and it didn't even last 2 weeks. So bought a lemon on that one.
verticostate 1 year ago
i saw a 1TB ssd for 4.4 grand!!!
gumberly 1 year ago
Raptors won't ever be faster compared to SSD. You said you can do 2 Raptors and do Raid 0. Which can also be done in a SSD configuration and be that much faster. Actually, 2 SSD in Raid 0 = Ridiculous!
wicked4u2c 1 year ago
Thanks very much for a straight to the point, well explained video. Got all the main points in there without going "on and on". Great video. I'll stick with the SATA on my Dell configuration then. Thanks a lot.
WebUsability101 1 year ago
hey im using a g5 mac for hi end recording.......should i go to a ssd..??....for main program....logic pro 8...??.can you call,....6613261604........ask for tee.
bakersfieldmusicnow 1 year ago
@bakersfieldmusicnow REMOVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER THIS COMMENT ISNT PRIVATE!
ribeirot100 1 year ago
lol my mom worked for storagetek for like 17 years ha ha
myTAsmokesRicers 1 year ago
my computer is working really slow after i formated it 3 times any idea why. i think my hard drive is screwed. and my desktop is using a Pata drive and give me a nice brand name to replace it coz previous i got a western union sata for my other pc and i noticed a lag meaning it gets struck quit often.please help
cutecrimnal143 2 years ago
hi guys, i saw ocz colossus series 120gb from newegg. they have faster read and write speed. the company claim it can go up to 260mb/s for both the read and write speed. it cost 529 before tax. please give us a review or link if any of you ever use the product. thanks.
himawanliem 2 years ago
Deathcoder is right. Write speeds may be true in the past, But, Most newer SSDs wright just as fast, or faster than a High perfromance 32MB spinning HD. I can honestly say theres no way i would ever put my OS on a spinning drive again. my OCZ 30Gb vertex is reporting 205MB/s read, 90MBs Write .05 access time on avg. Its not the read spead that makes them so fast as it is no Spin up time to access of find a file. Everything is faster, even games loading that are on spinning drives.
DecieverofFools 2 years ago
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DecieverofFools 2 years ago
Go ahead, try an SSD drive for yourself, and watch Windows XP boot up in less than 10 seconds on a 4-5 year old laptop (Centrino 1.5Ghz with 1GB RAM, KingSpec PATA SSD Drive 32GB) or try an Intel M-25 on an i7 booting Windows 7 in less than 15 seconds (i7 920, 12GB RAM, OCZ Vertex 60GB) and then see if you'd like to go back to Mechanical hard drives ever again.
deathcoder 2 years ago
@deathcoder RAID 0
wildreams 2 years ago
What's fair is fair, RAID 0 Mechanical drives, vs RAID 0 SSD's = Mechanical HD's get OWNED!
deathcoder 2 years ago
@deathcoder What fair is fair.. RAID 0 2 mechanical drive less than price of 1 SSD:) (of the same capacity)
wildreams 2 years ago
@wildreams Of course.. SSD still has its advantage like low power comsumption, low noise low heat, high durability (against vibration etc) But still for bang for the buck and gaming desktop, RAID 0 still the way to go atm.
wildreams 2 years ago
We never specified the usage of the drives. Now you're saying "gaming" and you're including price as a factor. Like I said before, price is a consequence of being a newer technology. For a gamer, I understand the logic, if your RAID breaks u simply install the game again. I wouldn't use RAID 0 to store sensitive data though. Actually, the right application for SSD's as of today is as a system's drive to boot the OS and store files that require heavy reads.
deathcoder 2 years ago
@deathcoder Boot drive is also what I'm looking for. Now, I admit my knowledge in this issue is not a lot. I need your advice, as a boot drive, how much space would you need? Comparing a single SSD as boot drive and 2, HDD in RAID 0, which functions better (faster) as a boot drive? Is it worth to install a low capacity high priced SSD? Thanks:)
wildreams 2 years ago
Well, it all depends on what are you using your computer for. The boot times I mentioned above are real for one SSD. I have tried using RAID 0 with two 1TB Seagate Barracuda and I didn't notice much of a difference in boot time, even though in the benchmarks I ran the transfer speed was almost double the speed of a single drive.
Still, My OCZ Vertex blew them away with just one SSD. at 210Mbps Avg speed.
Boot Drive: XP install: 5Gb, Vista: n/a 7: 10Gb
You might want to tweak ur User/Pr File fold
deathcoder 2 years ago
Thats the seek time making its difference felt with the ssd. Mechanical drives still have the shitty seek times even in RAID0 configurations.
nem2010 2 years ago
Price is a consequence of a newer technology. Sometimes I bump into stubborn people like yourself. Are you actually defending spinning drives versus SSD's? From the times of the famous RAMDRIVE.SYS on MS-DOS 6 I always thought about having a HDD made out of "RAM (or ROM)" (back in the day) because I knew HDD where awfully slow and clearly the bottleneck of every system. And, yet, you are defending them! You might be arguing just for the sake of argument because you know it's a lost battle
deathcoder 2 years ago
@deathcoder I'm sure SSD will eventually phase out HDD, but maybe not just yet, I would not recommend anybody to go SDD.. Of course, if you can afford it, why not? It is an overall more size and power efficient, cooler, not to mention faster device.
wildreams 2 years ago
wonder why ssds are still slower, at least in my mind the concept of no moving parts should equal a faster drive?
how is a SSD different from something like RAM?
lejink 2 years ago
Slower? than what exactly?
People mistakenly thinks that SSD's are slower than HDD in writes when in fact, SSD's, even the slowest ones (except a couple of freaks of engineering out there) are faster than mechanical hard drives.
deathcoder 2 years ago
@deathcoder he says in the video they are slower in write speed, didnt make sense to me either but... he said it?
lejink 2 years ago
if they still have slower write time i wont get it
HAMAZA7123 2 years ago
Right now, SSD is the way forward. I am still surprised when I think about it, that we still have mechanical devices like hard drives in existence. I think the main reason that SSDs are taking a while is not only technology reasons, but probably all the fucking formats pricks fighting for a piece of the technology royalties and all that crap. Hard Drive technology should have been binned a while ago.....
nem2010 2 years ago 29
@nem2010 I thought SSD still has the wear from multiple write cycle issue? Its performance deteriorates after prolong use.. I may be wrong.
wildreams 2 years ago
TRIM is the answer (for now) eventually, they will find other algorithms for SSD's to self organize their data better and become more efficient. write cycles, yes, they estimate that even in a business environment if you write 20GB a day, an SSD would still last about 8-10 years... I think by that time you'd probably have another drive. plus, nobody writes 20GB a day in a personal computer (A DAY! EVERYDAY)
deathcoder 2 years ago
@deathcoder Really? thats cool, regarding the write speed, I have nothing against SSD, I even consider installing one of my own, but it is only the price (and the wear issue) that is holding me back. Ultimately, if the added price does not equate to similar added performance, then it is not worth it on my budget system.
wildreams 2 years ago
I know the price is forbidding for me SSD's are still expensive, but man, once you try one, you'll never go back to spin hard drives again...TRUST ME ON THAT, Buy an OCZ Vertex Turbo, or an Intel M25, You wont be dissapointed
deathcoder 2 years ago
Damn, stop saying that, I dont want to spend the cash.....
nem2010 2 years ago
1tb is only 1500$ its a round 1$ per gig
that what my lady fren sead she can get a server grade ssd for she work for asus plant that buld chip sets
AbcChannels 1 year ago
@nem2010
a few years ago would of cost $10k for 512mb SSD. cuz them ram chips there useing were not cheap, now they are but there charging you a premium then in a couple years there gonna be dirt cheap SSD for current sizes.
deluxedookie 1 year ago
@nem2010 well, if you have any spare ssd's laying around, give me a yell. I cant spend 500+ bucks for ssds. Hard drives are fast enough for me.
simracr94 1 year ago
@nem2010 amen...hdd should've been digitized 100% by now...its ridicoulus.
fthis12345 1 year ago
@nem2010 Well, there is also the cost. A 640 GB SSD costs about the same as a 64 GB SSD drive.
DejectedPanda 1 year ago
@nem2010 i was wondering is it possible to make a ssd a back up or a slave...????
KINGhotaru11 1 year ago
@nem2010 We should also move on from SATA to HSDL.
AmH032uTuBe 7 months ago
@ seansfc where did you get those prices!!!!!!!........ here in my country 60gb solid state drive cost is 9000 to 12000 pesos (thats 200$ to 250$)!!!!!!..... all you need to do is to fine a friend here in my country to do you order
surinmp 2 years ago
my take is that, if you have the money, go upgrade to SSD just for boot up os and application, and have an external hard drive for storage data
jograd08 2 years ago
couldn't agree more!
deathcoder 2 years ago
I have a digital camera has flash memory like you mention is simliar to a Soild State Drive. I had the digital camera for 5 years now it only saves about 30 pics out of 200 pics. Most of them are lost with a blue screen. I think the soild state drive wouldn't last a life time. So they should drop the price less then a hard drive.
rob92376 2 years ago
its crazy how much ssd drives cost theres a 60+Gb drive for $999.00 au
seansfc 2 years ago
This video really should be updated, it is after all based on SSDs that are older than one year. Alot has happened since then...
8ways2love 2 years ago
I 'm getting my OCZ summit 60gb HD tommorow....can't wait!!!!
hdgamer123 2 years ago
i love my OCZ OCZSSD2-1VTX120G
roblamper 2 years ago
Comment for anyone looking into getting an ssd.
If you are planning to use your ssd as a drive for OS/software, the most important factor is random read/write performance, NOT sequential.
Also, do NOT buy anything with a Jmicron controller, its not worth it. If you want a solid drive, go with intel, if you are on a bit of a tighter budget, look into the ocz vertex series. may-23/09
DC211228 2 years ago
they have not been in the limelight that long. I agree though. I think at the moment they are still a bit expensive being not widley developed.
I think when they catch on and developers solve the speed issues in a few years then it will be a different answer.
You need only look at the usb flash drives to see the rapid increase in speed and size to know this tech is more than certainly going to replace hard drives in the future.
3 - 4 years. Thy will surley be standard fitment to new pcs
JayKay3000 2 years ago
Hey I actualy think right now is a decent time to buy an ssd (for enthuseists), keep in mind this video is from july last year.
DC211228 2 years ago
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Since SSDs use random access for reading, they better multi-task. Anyways, multi-tasking would be a problem dealt by the OS, not the hardware.
ccricers 2 years ago
hmm not quite. They are good for multi tasking but its because they have very small latencies (basically speaking).
And when im talking about multitasking im talking about opening/writing many things at once, not proccessing many things at once.
DC211228 2 years ago
can a SSD drive multi-task??
georgeboothz 2 years ago
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ccricers 2 years ago
WD Raptor drives are not very good performers - and they throw off a ton of heat....I've tested a pair of Raptors in RAID0 vs a pair of 7200RPM WDD SATAII drives in RAID0, and the raptors ONLY win in seek sime - the avg read spead of the raptors was 109Mbps and the standard drives were 108...the max burst on the raptors was 192, and the standard drivers were 195....and at less than 1/2 the cost, I dont know why ANYONE would buy Raptors...
lenknermj 2 years ago
Seek time is what matters. Read speed only matters when copying big single files. Otherwise seek time is what matters.
ramon1222 2 years ago 2
Thats true, but capacity is also very important, and right now, late 2009, SSDs are still ridiculously expensive, as are WD Raptors. In fact, Ive got a single Hitachi Deskstar giving average 95MBs read. Thats comparable to the Raptor, but the seek time at about (real life)14ms is double the raptor's (real life) 7ms. A 300GB Raptor would cost over 3 times what I paid for the Hitachi. Is it worth it? Not to me. I still think cheap drives in RAID0 will give performance with capacity and low cost.
nem2010 2 years ago
and what about a laptop? I don't think it can carry a VelocyRaptor
AmzooO 2 years ago
Expenisve as heck.. I rather spend money somewhere like on a good old reliable mechanical HDD from WD. Yes, they have more of a chance of dying than SSD but thats why they invented dvd burners to backup your data.
nyfan33 2 years ago
This 3dgameman guy is not a database professional, and for normal users, the value of solid state does not really show through.
When you're ready for serious info about solid state vs. regular hard drives, Google for:
"SATA solid-state drives vs. regular"
Then read the DBAzine article at the top of the list.
For heavy duty disk work with the Oracle database server, solid state drives can outperform regular SATA drives by potentially hundreds of times.
Bleah to 3DGameMan.
nightowl8936 2 years ago
Thank your for the review! Write speeds are sad...
fibertech9 3 years ago
thanks alot for that info 3DGameMan. :D
BrandonReviews 3 years ago
How come software like Adobe CS4 will not install on a solid state drive? I use Photoshop for my business and i need the extra durability of a solid state drive.
bpriley77 3 years ago
Thats strange. How big is the SSD you're trying to install it on and whats the error message that comes up? Is it a single SSD or 2 in a RAID?
Adamal1 3 years ago
It does work. I just heard a rumor that it wouldn't. But i can confirm that it does.
bpriley77 3 years ago
I'm sorry SSDs still have so many drawbacks. They really could be the future.
loltehinternet 3 years ago
You need to understand the use of a SSD. Which is mobile computing... Increased battery life and decreased boot/shutdown times. I have seen a notebook with a 7200RPM drive vs. a SSD and the SSD booted a minute faster. If you are looking for the fastest and least power hungry go with SSD. Can't wait for 09' to roll around... We are about to see 256GB SSDz. This post was done in July of 08'. So, for that I am not going to call you a complete fucking retard.
thetechguyz 3 years ago
thats interesting. I have seen two MSI wind netbooks side by side, and they had the same load times, but the SSD got spanked by the HDD in write times. Weird.
mrjspeed 3 years ago
I'm not debating the fact that each solid state drive is different with different read/write times. That's why personally I would wait till mid-09 to look into these drives. Then, I would wait for a performance round up on some review sight and cross reference the results on a few sources.
thetechguyz 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Could you please learn how to talk like a normal human being who can flow words together without having a half second delay between every word. Its incredibly obnoxious to listen to and I'm quite sure you are aware of this problem.
hobolooter 3 years ago
how about you kill yourself, dumb fucking inbred genetic mishap fucktard
tecktap 3 years ago
^^^ waste of text ^^^
hillstudios 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Interesting how NONE of the SSD tests show a real world multi-tasking environment.
I have an OCZ SSD 64 and it totally fails, as soon as my PC is doing 2 or more read/write multi tasks I get horrendous lock ups. It is going back to the shop as unfit for purpose.
SSD is a one trick (read speed) pony.
johnnyfast 3 years ago 2
Well I decided to spend my money, I just bought an OCZ Core SSD 64 so hopefully it'll prove to be a nice upgrade but also to support the new technology I want to see succeed also. Performance so far is greatly improved over the 7200rpm SATA HDD I was using but I guess time will tell.
johnnyfast 3 years ago
great video!
NzNexus 3 years ago
can u put a SSD in a PS3?
mynameisrob123 3 years ago
yes i think so
evo8FQ400 3 years ago
whats the point? its to expensive. its as much as the ps3 its self lol
bowflexor 3 years ago
faster load times.
Decenium 3 years ago
slower write times.
mrjspeed 3 years ago
interesting, it should work yes, I would love to see that.
Decenium 3 years ago
r u like a 'harddrive-planet-king'????? lol.....u noe a lot bout those...
Kalees 3 years ago
thanks 3dgameman
hollisternick200 3 years ago
The good thing about SSD is that they can never fail by mechanical parts, which probably renders lifecycle higher than we will live on this planet. It costs around 600-700 for a 120GB SSD right now...so, unless you really want to have a drive that's fast, and have the money for it, go for it.
lhuser 3 years ago
I think a SSD is recommended when saving important information.
I'd rather save my money when buying a HDD and save it for a kickass videocard :D
axisrules1 3 years ago 2
Is it best to keep your pc out in the open, or is it ok to keep it inside your desk?
J4gg1T 3 years ago
I got an important question
what is the wattage of all the components in a pc
so like
CPU wattage
motherboard wattage
HDD etc.
RadeonXtremeVX2 3 years ago
Okay. CPUs consume anywhere from 80 to 150 watts.
Motherboard, I have no idea, if your graphics card has it's own power source, it's negligible.
Graphics cards - Anywhere from 40 to 300 watts.
Hard drives, optical drives, etc. Usually no more than 10-15 watts. Hope this helps.
uzaiyaro 3 years ago
in d future, i guess there will like 'no-power-consuming-kinda-harddrive-for-green-nature lover-people' kinda hdd...lol
Kalees 3 years ago
Your great man, ive been watching your videos for quite some time and with your over knowledge, you've gained my subscription. Keep up the good work bud!
LiquidFriction 3 years ago
lol, thank you ramu50
teh1337ubermicro 3 years ago
Could you not buy a small capacity SSD just to put your operating system and other system software on, meaning you would get an extremely fast boot up speed?
flippinecksbox 3 years ago
yah wait until the SSD is cheap and good enough for us to buy
jasleil 3 years ago
i have a question: how does monitor response time matter in games?
bloodsh0t5 3 years ago
every one says to raid 0 velociraptors thats what maxishine uses but I've heard the drives are so fast the overhead from the raid 0 actually makes them slower wtf is the deal
catapaultpenguin 3 years ago
8series motherboard good than sli motherboard?
lhmbnvqb 3 years ago
GeForce® 8 motherboard good than SLI Motherborad?
lhmbnvqb 3 years ago
interesting, i did not know that. So 2 SSDs in RAID 0, for example, won't improve read/write speeds like with regular hard drives?
teh1337ubermicro 3 years ago
Like the comic book annotations lol
chimera15 3 years ago
At the moment SSD's only advantage is access times. Proper tests have shown the manufacturers claims of low power, faster throughput, reliability etc to be basically completely false. Someday, way in the future they will be better and affordable but that day isn't today nor will it be for the foreseeable future...
Rufe0 3 years ago
I think a 32gb SSD will be very good to run an OS from and they should be getting much more affordable over the next few years.
operationturkey 3 years ago
can you partitino solid state drives
dacooter 3 years ago
dude you make great vids.....keep it up, your the only thing Im watching on youtube,,,,
your right solid state was a waste of time for me:(
normal SATA drives are fast enough for me:)
espotomax 3 years ago
espotomax, get the 10k - 15k RPM HDD, better yet if you get 2 then if were to raid them on Raid 0, your computer will be smokin hot.
Just Be careful.
-Nimitz :D
sgtnimitz 3 years ago
There is a 512GB SSD that i read in a pc magazine and it outperforms the raptor drive hands down. But i would still get a raptor and not spend $2000.
ChopperX 3 years ago
which one have a longer life??
vasilipao 3 years ago
If you're looking for a cheap drive thats high on power the Western Digital 640gb is pretty fast
Don't ever consider an SSD, you could get multiple 1TB Drives for the same price
vernong1992 3 years ago
raptor HDD r expansive.....
mulogo 3 years ago
i would put 2 SSDs in RAID 0 for a boot drive and then several 1TB drives in RAID 5. Currently i still use a pci SCSI hba in my gaming rig for 15,000rpm drives in RAID 0 for boot.
teh1337ubermicro 3 years ago
I have a question maybe it allready been but: what is the difference betwen ddr2 and ddr3 and with wich components the ddr3 will work better. and of course some thing about ddr4 when and what should we excpect for
thx )
2CoolF0rSch00l 3 years ago
Basically from what I understand is that DDR3 is just a little more memory efficient it can be clocked to 2000mhz(ultra fast), can be made so that one GDDR3 stick can potentially have 16gb, and uses less power to run efficiently not worth $200 a gigabyte more than DDR2 imo. Now when computers use more ram GDDR3 will be the thing to get but now its just not worth it.
tyranis1 3 years ago