@mrsmelzbad You have it all wrong. The idea is to have the Taliban hobbling around on 1 leg..... These guys were merely testing the possibility of scoring a hit at such an extreme range. I didn't hear them mention anything about sport hunting at all. Considering the wind, the earth's rotation and the 5.5 second time of flight I thought they did very well.
@MultiGuntoter They did awsome & Id love one such rifle. Just being sarcastic, seems every "gunrag" author, encourages YOU MUST HAVE a long range rifle that can shoot 2000 yards.... when 90% of all hunters in USA cant tell 250 yards from 1500 yds. I witnessed this working as a hunting guide. For that matter ive seen excited "dudes" miss elk / moose at 75 yrds. papers targets & in field shooting are 2 diff things.....just saying. death to taliban ! ALOHA SNACK-BAR!
That's why you are taking a kick at 2707 yards. Very nice. From Wiki:
British Army CoH Craig Harrison of the Household Cavalry successfully engaged two Taliban machine gunners south of Musa Qala in Helmand Province in Afghanistan in November 2009 at a range of 2,475 m (2,707 yd), using a L115A3 Long Range Rifle rifle chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum. These are the longest recorded and confirmed sniper kills in history
@MushroomPictures I did the maths and it would be about 312 metres a second just before impact (I'm Australian so I use metres but I am sure you can work that out in yard or feet or whatever you want)
Excellent shooting. Imagine the stress the sniper was under. I guess the added stress of defending your comrades elevates ones concetration and determination level.
@TheDeag1e So learn how to reload ammo... Its not that hard really. Just takes some patience and the ability to learn and ask questions and you will save a ton of money in the long run compared to buying box after box of factory "less accurate" ammo.
@TheDeag1e ......dirtyharry2029 is right. Though the start up can get expensive, it pays off in the long run. If you load your own .338, you can be under $1.50 a rnd. Plus the benefit of getting the load that works best for you and that's just like the visa "Priceless" commercials...
@APedroSanchez can you shoot that far? First shot on TARGET, with NO sighting in at that range? and FYI the current world record combat sniper kill...took 9 ranging shots to get on target,and the previous record too 2 ranging shots to get on his target (third being the kill). According to your 'math' both those records were only 25% and 33% effective. At that kind of range...even the WEATHER can be different. And there's NO compensating for that, til you get a shot down there.
I can´t even shoot my foot, but I do it very effective.
Just wanted to point out, that there is a difference between maximum range & effective range. As far as I´m concerned, effective range is 80% first hit prob, maximum range how far the bullet can fly.
The effective range of a .338 Lapua Magnum is 1500m/1,640 yd, at least according to the producer... lapua.com upload/downloads/brochures/2011/lapuaspecialpurpose2011eng.pdf
@APedroSanchez I've seen the specs. thing about manufacturers, they HAVE to prove they're claims. As far as 'effective', Rob Furlong (previous record holder) was 'effective' to 1500 m, until he got ahold of some U.S. .50 cal. rounds, then he got a lot more effective REALLY fast. Effective depends on the EFFECT one wishes to cause. These rounds are essentially 'HARD' target rounds...at 1500m. a foot either way on a car...don't matter. On a man sized target, then its a hit or a miss
@APedroSanchez granted, they didn't hit the target. In addition, the SRS is only claimed to be effective to 1900m. Maybe the 'error' isn't the round, but the rifle. 2.06 moa AT >2700 yds = ~52 inch grouping. Being stuck on 'hit the target' 4 out of 5 times, at that distance, is unrealistic. That's 1.54 MILES (2.48Km). And again, effectiveness doesn't mean an 80% hit ratio, All though that would be great, its beyond the capability of ANY physics/ammunition.
I never commented their website, just the video and stated, that according to Lapua, the effective range of the .338 Lapua Mag ist 1500m/1640yards... let´s just agree that we don´t get eachother
@APedroSanchez effective range is more or less calculated by bullet velocity, drop, and few other things to more or less get a range at which you can get consistent hits with in a foot a variation at a certain distance. but if you look at maximum range for a standard 338 lapua, its in the realm of 4200 yards. and even at that range it still has enough power behind it to penetrate human flesh.
The difference in volume of the shot between the first and second shooter is impresive (same rifle). The noise suppressor of shooter n°1 seems very effective. does anyone know how it affects long distance accuracy? or may be it doesn't?
Any chance to find out what loads you were using for that set up? Were you using a hand load or factory Swiss or Lapua?
We are seeing good flight and wind fighting with hand load 300's and the Lapua Factory 250 scenars get out there too?
Without the bull pup design we are using a 29" barrel w/ 1:9.35 to get 3 full twists, just wondered how your set ups would compare if you feel like sharing?
thanks for the long range vids, folks need to see these reach out there!
iam searching for accuracy comparisations with other comparable guns everywhere on the internet out of interest , yet i dont notice them when they are laying right under my nose
now i read the description :/
so this this is as accurate as an verry modern ai awsm variant ?
It's worth noting that Craig Harrison's shots were taken in Afghanistan, at around 10,000ft of altitude and in perfectly still air. If you guys had enjoyed the same conditions then there's no doubt in my mind you would have hit with at least three of your first five shots. Beautiful shooting guys.
look into tannerite. gives u instant feedback if you hit your target. especially at those ranges.
Adesico87 4 days ago
GREAT...... I can already see more wounded elk, deer, bear......hobbling around on 3 leg's.
mrsmelzbad 4 days ago
@mrsmelzbad You have it all wrong. The idea is to have the Taliban hobbling around on 1 leg..... These guys were merely testing the possibility of scoring a hit at such an extreme range. I didn't hear them mention anything about sport hunting at all. Considering the wind, the earth's rotation and the 5.5 second time of flight I thought they did very well.
MultiGuntoter 3 days ago
@MultiGuntoter They did awsome & Id love one such rifle. Just being sarcastic, seems every "gunrag" author, encourages YOU MUST HAVE a long range rifle that can shoot 2000 yards.... when 90% of all hunters in USA cant tell 250 yards from 1500 yds. I witnessed this working as a hunting guide. For that matter ive seen excited "dudes" miss elk / moose at 75 yrds. papers targets & in field shooting are 2 diff things.....just saying. death to taliban ! ALOHA SNACK-BAR!
mrsmelzbad 2 days ago
lol, im sure if you reload fast enoght you can shoot again before the bullet even hit^^
theroyalgrapefruit 3 weeks ago
That's why you are taking a kick at 2707 yards. Very nice. From Wiki:
British Army CoH Craig Harrison of the Household Cavalry successfully engaged two Taliban machine gunners south of Musa Qala in Helmand Province in Afghanistan in November 2009 at a range of 2,475 m (2,707 yd), using a L115A3 Long Range Rifle rifle chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum. These are the longest recorded and confirmed sniper kills in history
hifly78 1 month ago
Sound blustery, what wind hold or windage did you have put in. Good job. Love the super long flight time.
hifly78 1 month ago
So...it looks like it would be FULLY 100% EFFECTIVE at missing a man sized target at 2700 yards.
GetMeThere1 1 month ago
@GetMeThere1 This is World record territory, I suspect you have no clue what's involved
hifly78 1 month ago
@hifly78 : The clue I have is the title of the video, which states it's "effective." It's not. Let's be real.
GetMeThere1 1 month ago
@GetMeThere1 you're probably one to say a .22lr isn't effective at 400 yards as well.
hilers72652 1 month ago
@hilers72652 somewhere he has a point
no, its impresive, but the title is technicaly nothing more then false advertising
13thmistral 1 week ago
Kick ass editing job. Ill assume you are all active/veteran military.
xSn1per97x 1 month ago
Great work, you might not of actually struck the target, but the scare-factor and impacts would be buttoning it down in real life.
WatchRyder 1 month ago
That is almost a quarter of a mile
VicariousReality7 1 month ago
@VicariousReality7
Might want to recalculate that! Because 2700 yards is 1.534 miles! Lol
ShawnScaggs 1 month ago
@ShawnScaggs
Nope, 2707 yards is 0,2475 miles here
lol
VicariousReality7 1 month ago
@VicariousReality7 Seriously dude? 1760 yards are in 1 mile. 2707 yards is about 1.53 miles. Have you not been through elementary school yet?
TNStories 1 month ago
@TNStories
Just trollin ya
A mil is 10 Km here in sweden
VicariousReality7 1 month ago
@VicariousReality7 Which is practically MOA at 2707 yards :)
dbuschhorn 3 weeks ago
@MushroomPictures I did the maths and it would be about 312 metres a second just before impact (I'm Australian so I use metres but I am sure you can work that out in yard or feet or whatever you want)
HmmContemplates 1 month ago
God how much i want that round. But no land where im at over 500 meters complete bullshit.
TigerG2 1 month ago
you guys did great. I think being able to hit a average sized man at 2700 yards takes the same amount of luck as it does skill.
freestylmx311 1 month ago
How is the range calculated?
hubiethesaint 1 month ago
wtf thats ausome
hwninja92 1 month ago
Excellent shooting. Imagine the stress the sniper was under. I guess the added stress of defending your comrades elevates ones concetration and determination level.
pokeysaurus1 1 month ago
great shooting, i would love to be able to own one down the road but as it stands 5 bucks a shot is a lot of money.
TheDeag1e 1 month ago
@TheDeag1e So learn how to reload ammo... Its not that hard really. Just takes some patience and the ability to learn and ask questions and you will save a ton of money in the long run compared to buying box after box of factory "less accurate" ammo.
dirtyharry2029 1 month ago
@TheDeag1e ......dirtyharry2029 is right. Though the start up can get expensive, it pays off in the long run. If you load your own .338, you can be under $1.50 a rnd. Plus the benefit of getting the load that works best for you and that's just like the visa "Priceless" commercials...
jvallager 1 month ago
outstanding! I know how frustrating it is to be sooo close to on-target, but still missing. great shooting, never mind the wind. Bravo Zulu
m4gunner25 2 months ago
strong wind
GeneralSchultz 2 months ago
that's amazing!
bbaaaalll 2 months ago
very nice shooting, i wish i could shoot half that distance.
andyinmontana2 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
man i love that gun,between the SRS and the DSR-1,which one is better?
lldonnyllzillasll 3 months ago
Boy, you guys shoot good !
ebiros2 3 months ago
@stinkypedrosanchez... have you ever tried to hit a target past 2000 yards?
SIERRAHPBT 3 months ago
when theres lead in the air theres hope
stirfrymyballs 3 months ago
nice work
weaponeer 3 months ago
Sounds like you guys had to deal with some wind too, good shooting.
WesternShinigami 3 months ago
Silly question, but what´s effective about that?!?
doesn´t look like 80% first hit prob. to me... not even 80% with ajusting... that title is a 100% fuck up, but ok
APedroSanchez 3 months ago
@APedroSanchez can you shoot that far? First shot on TARGET, with NO sighting in at that range? and FYI the current world record combat sniper kill...took 9 ranging shots to get on target,and the previous record too 2 ranging shots to get on his target (third being the kill). According to your 'math' both those records were only 25% and 33% effective. At that kind of range...even the WEATHER can be different. And there's NO compensating for that, til you get a shot down there.
MrRocque 3 months ago
@MrRocque
I can´t even shoot my foot, but I do it very effective.
Just wanted to point out, that there is a difference between maximum range & effective range. As far as I´m concerned, effective range is 80% first hit prob, maximum range how far the bullet can fly.
The effective range of a .338 Lapua Magnum is 1500m/1,640 yd, at least according to the producer... lapua.com upload/downloads/brochures/2011/lapuaspecialpurpose2011eng.pdf
APedroSanchez 3 months ago
@APedroSanchez I've seen the specs. thing about manufacturers, they HAVE to prove they're claims. As far as 'effective', Rob Furlong (previous record holder) was 'effective' to 1500 m, until he got ahold of some U.S. .50 cal. rounds, then he got a lot more effective REALLY fast. Effective depends on the EFFECT one wishes to cause. These rounds are essentially 'HARD' target rounds...at 1500m. a foot either way on a car...don't matter. On a man sized target, then its a hit or a miss
MrRocque 3 months ago
@MrRocque
they just didn´t hit target. Period
APedroSanchez 3 months ago
@APedroSanchez granted, they didn't hit the target. In addition, the SRS is only claimed to be effective to 1900m. Maybe the 'error' isn't the round, but the rifle. 2.06 moa AT >2700 yds = ~52 inch grouping. Being stuck on 'hit the target' 4 out of 5 times, at that distance, is unrealistic. That's 1.54 MILES (2.48Km). And again, effectiveness doesn't mean an 80% hit ratio, All though that would be great, its beyond the capability of ANY physics/ammunition.
MrRocque 3 months ago
@MrRocque that is all wind
SIERRAHPBT 3 months ago
@APedroSanchez must admit, i like the vid and what they did or tried to do in this vid
but indeed, its perfectly understandable if people whoud dislike this vid more then they woud like it because in theory, this is spam
but for the rest, you shoud read the description and relize youre talking a bit crap to
13thmistral 2 months ago
@13thmistral
Ok, if that makes you feel better, I´m talking crap.
And I really have to admit that for a ground target, I would prefer the .338 over the mistral
APedroSanchez 2 months ago
@APedroSanchez a bit i said
they are not claiming for 100% there gun(srs .338lm) have 2707 yards as an efective range
though followed by there site a pretty grat range for a .338lm exualy
in anny case, you talked a bit crap, deal with it and dont act so silly pathetic petty
13thmistral 2 months ago
@13thmistral
proof me wrong
APedroSanchez 2 months ago
@APedroSanchez the range on their website is not stated to be 2707 yards
but 1900 yards
yep, like i said, the videotitle is spam, but they dont claim this to be the efective range
i realy dont think you get me or youre just trolling
13thmistral 2 months ago
@13thmistral
I never commented their website, just the video and stated, that according to Lapua, the effective range of the .338 Lapua Mag ist 1500m/1640yards... let´s just agree that we don´t get eachother
APedroSanchez 2 months ago
@APedroSanchez ah, so
sorry i thought because they posted this shit you directly asumed they claimed this range to be accurate on there rifle general
about that last, coud be, never exualy searched about it, though i notice most .338lm rifles claim to have that range
yea, i agree
sorry for bothering, i judged you wrong completely
13thmistral 2 months ago
@APedroSanchez effective range is more or less calculated by bullet velocity, drop, and few other things to more or less get a range at which you can get consistent hits with in a foot a variation at a certain distance. but if you look at maximum range for a standard 338 lapua, its in the realm of 4200 yards. and even at that range it still has enough power behind it to penetrate human flesh.
zooders 2 months ago
The difference in volume of the shot between the first and second shooter is impresive (same rifle). The noise suppressor of shooter n°1 seems very effective. does anyone know how it affects long distance accuracy? or may be it doesn't?
EtiamSiOmnesEgoNon 3 months ago
amazing accuracy
krysks04 3 months ago
What is the name of the range finder used in this vid?
MildotMT 3 months ago
It's good to see a few YouTube videos where live animals aren't shot for target-practice under the guise of "hunting."
Antithropocentric 3 months ago
Great Video Guys!
Any chance to find out what loads you were using for that set up? Were you using a hand load or factory Swiss or Lapua?
We are seeing good flight and wind fighting with hand load 300's and the Lapua Factory 250 scenars get out there too?
Without the bull pup design we are using a 29" barrel w/ 1:9.35 to get 3 full twists, just wondered how your set ups would compare if you feel like sharing?
thanks for the long range vids, folks need to see these reach out there!
DVC
dereklmoore 4 months ago
what kind of spotting scope is that with a built in laser range finder?
labartic 4 months ago
Excellent, just listen to the wind, flight time near 5 sec. WOW great system.
bradl45 4 months ago
What was the gun?
Jyrki1964 4 months ago
@Jyrki1964 kinda easy to find the answer on youre question :/
13thmistral 4 months ago
@13thmistral
AI?
Jyrki1964 4 months ago
@Jyrki1964 i give you a hint little stupid kiddo:
'if you watch the vid again then the answer is right under youre nose'
when you find youre answer, please always check such places before commenting on vids, you coud spare some time with it :)
13thmistral 4 months ago
@13thmistral
No i mean't what was the gun of that british sniper.
Jyrki1964 4 months ago
@Jyrki1964 o on that way
well it was an accuracy international arctic warfare super magnum (AI AWSM) variant
designated in the british army as the L115A3
13thmistral 4 months ago
Fantastic footage, please show the rifle and scope in detail
jochimpeiper 5 months ago
Lose the music please.
flightoftheunknown 5 months ago
what range finder are you using?
Tinytigers1 5 months ago
what an idiot iam
iam searching for accuracy comparisations with other comparable guns everywhere on the internet out of interest , yet i dont notice them when they are laying right under my nose
now i read the description :/
so this this is as accurate as an verry modern ai awsm variant ?
holly crap
13thmistral 5 months ago
With a little less wind you would have had it no problem
ChrisCorle01 6 months ago
Anything over a mile is precision.
SVTfocusftw7 6 months ago 26
@SVTfocusftw7 -_-
MrDip02 4 months ago
@SVTfocusftw7 ... more like luck due to all the variables.
RCTruckPulling 1 month ago
thats just extreme
curseofa5r5a 6 months ago
immaculant
triggerfingas 6 months ago 7
@triggerfingas That is not a word, and the three people that agree with you, do not know that is a word as well. Congratulations guys!
ambeck8704 4 months ago
@hac198582 :-o from his dead hand?!
3rd8th1965 7 months ago
what range finder is that?
VortexOperator 7 months ago
@VortexOperator never mind
VortexOperator 7 months ago
@VortexOperator Reticle looks like a Vectronix plrf series. They are an exceptional rangefinder.
masckeiara 7 months ago
It's worth noting that Craig Harrison's shots were taken in Afghanistan, at around 10,000ft of altitude and in perfectly still air. If you guys had enjoyed the same conditions then there's no doubt in my mind you would have hit with at least three of your first five shots. Beautiful shooting guys.
MarkTBSc 7 months ago
me too... cookie?
lvKingCobravl 8 months ago
one day i will own this rifle, thats a promise to myself.
hac198582 8 months ago
Damn, and it's windy too.
bravokiloromeo 8 months ago
Nice shooting..... that is impressive for that kind of distance.
TACTICALRUM 8 months ago
great video, crazy how long flight time of bullet is at that distance.
SamManero 8 months ago