Good video. I agree completely with your opinion on this case. You summed up my feeling on John Mark Byers completely. I am really hoping they're able to conclusively prove who the real killer(s) are some day. Jason, Damien and Jesse as well as Stevie, Christopher and Michael deserve justice. I'm glad they're free, but sadly there is no justice in how their freedom came about.
0:42 "...they are ackowledging that the state has anough evidence to bring them to new trial and possibly convict"
lol.
The irony here is clearly lost on the supporters.
Takes a lot of integrity to plead guilty under the Alford plea (a plea named after a man who was himself ...guity!) to a case that they could have been convicted for had they gone back to trail. Hilarious.
@weirdcitykid Actually, I was wrong when I said "possibly convict". It is simply acknowledgment that the state could bring them back to trial. Time to keep up with developments on the case...eyewitnesses are now coming forward who heard Terry Hobbs confess to this crime. Pam Hobbs is now calling for the case to be reopened based on this new evidence.
Enough with the Hobbs crap! Even the supporters gave up on that one - I take it you haven't seen Paradise Lost 3 yet then? If you had you would see - even the film makers have distanced themselves from the Hobbs "smokescreen".
@weirdcitykid Actually I have watched Purgatory, but new evidence has come to light in an even newer film "West Of Memphis". Check this out: ww w dot wreg dot com/news/wreg-mother-of-murdered-west-memphis-8-year-old-speaks-out-about-new-evidence-in-the-case--20120123,0,4876043.story
Dude not the Hobbs thing again - seriously Pamela hates him and her family blame him for the death of one of thier own. Plus, your reporters are terrible - Hobbs confirmed DNA was not found on the scene and even if it was Hobbs ...oh I give up. You are better than this - sure claim the wm3 are innocent but please don't frame one of the fathers. I am out of here.
@weirdcitykid Most violent crimes are committed by a person or persons that the victim(s) know(s). The parents are the FIRST place the police should have looked. Of course a corrupt police department is going to clear Hobbs, because they would have looked like the idiots they are for a lame satanic cult theory and arresting the wrong people. This is the bible belt, where anything not Christian is satanic. Its pathetic.
@weirdcitykid I admit the reporters should have said a hair was found that is consistent with Hobbs instead of saying DNA, but it is enough to raise suspicion.
hello Farmboy7899 i have one more question somewhat unrelated, somewhat because while i was thinking about this case this question poped in my mind, lets say a foreigner commits a major crime then flees to his native land and the only way that native country will extradite the suspect back to the US is if the US governemet promise that they will not seek the death penalty but once that suspect gets here the US execute the suspect anyway, what will be the the fall out of that?
@WeAreLions013 Are you referring to a specific case or is this hypothetical? If this is an actual case, I'd like to do some research on it before I answer. If it is simply hypothetical, then my guess is the criminal's home country would retaliate with either force or a highly public smear campaign. Another wrench in the works is if the criminal has diplomatic immunity.
Hello Farmboy7899 do you know how i could watch the whole arkansas supreme court hearing depicted in the third film Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory i have tried everything i know to try so maybe you can help thank you.
I have to admit,as the judge was reading the information out, it sounded like they weren't going to let them out, my heart almost beat out of my chest. I had never of the Alford plea until that day, I still can't believe they're free. It's a blessing to know that they'll be home with their families for the holidays this year.I'm not happy about the way they had to plea guilty in order for them to be let out, it's a dirty way of doing business but I'm happy that Jason was selfless in this act.
Do you have any information on what the wm3 have been up to since their release? I'm dying of curiosity. All I've heard is the story about the iphone, and the rooftop party. I just can't get enough of them, and can't wait til paradise lost 3. Thanks for all your videos!
@chrisnana55 As far as I have heard, Damien and Lori are going on (a much needed and deserved) vacation. Jason is going to school. And Jessie is going to marry his girlfriend from the first "Paradise Lost" documentary. Romantic, I know...Ah, Free at last.! Farmboy, thanks for the information about "Clear the wm3". Will definitely check that out.
Lol..no offense but this is hilarious - how can any saine person justify this. So they are pleading guilty becuase they acknowledge the prosecution has enough evidence to bring them to trail...lol.
Call me mr picky - but wouldn't that make them...duhhh guilty!
The last laugh goes to Echols - WM3 supporters suckerpunched in spectacular fashion. All they can do now is enter into bizarre logic to couter the dissonance - and that bad taste left from the recent events,
The wm3, in a plea deal, admitted that they killed the 3 boys.
The defendants by acknowledging there was sufficient evidence towards guilt pretty much destroyed the supporter efforts to dismiss the evidence. All these years of back & forth between "nons" & "supporters" arguing about if there was sufficient evidence only to have the 3 convicted admit there was.
These 3 have confessed their way right out of prison thanks to you supporters. You helped free 3 child killers. You must be very proud?
Actually you are right - they confessed their way out - and at the same time stuck two fingers up to all the supporters. Hell, I don't even need to worry about litigation and can keep my videos up - since they did indeed plead guilty - which was my view all along. Who would have ever thought it.
Congrats supporters - you just freed 3 child killers! Hope you feel good.
@Farmboy7899 - I live here in Arkansas. I was texting with an "insider" friend in Jonesboro all day. My brother has been at the same prison facilities as all three men during his incarceration.
We should not accept guilty plea conviction as a case closer. The WM3 are out of prison. The state got out as well.
1.They greatly reduced/eliminated the ability of the WM3 to bring about a civil complaint.
2.They eliminated the need to continue to investigate the case.
@TrollTheToll Many people believe it was Terry Hobbs and his friend David Jacoby. Some evidence does point their way, but a proper investigation must take place. We owe the 3 victims at least that much.
continued from below.... This entire case has been so screwed up since day one and now, instead of just allowing them to go home to their families and move on...they have to continue to try and clear their names. Well, as far as I'm concerned...they're names ARE CLEARED.! God Bless Damien, Jesse and Jason. I cried my eyes out watching their press conference. I cannot imagine how overwhelmed Damien must be with all of those people around him. Farmboy..thanks for the great videos..u rock!
Oh their names are cleared are they? They plead guilty you imbecile!!! Do you know what that means - ??? Dress it up in crazy logic all you like - but they plead GUILTY!!! Innocent men do NOT plead guilty to murder.
Best line in this video "Pleading guilty does not imply guilt!". Hilarious.
@weirdcitykid How about you educate yourself on what an Alford Plea is. Google it. Wikipedia it. I don't care how you find out, but please, before you make yourself sound anymore unintelligent, look it up.
My heart breaks for them still. I mean, yes...THANK GOD they are finally free...but there's a catch. Why? Why can't the prosecution just leave them alone and let them start their lives over. I hate it. I hate what our justice system has done to these men and are still continuing to do to them. It makes me sick to know that they had to enter a plea of "guilty". I don't blame them one bit...of course they HAD to do it so they could finally be free. It just still pisses me off.
I will be drinking a beer for the 3 free men from Arkansas tonight!!!! I raise my glass!!! I would love to know where the party is for them tonight!!!!
It is about friggin time!!! I wanted to cry when I saw Jason & Damien hug. Your right about Jason, it takes a real stand up guy to do something like that for a friend. I can't imagine how they feel right now, especially Damien being in solitary confinement for that long. That whole situation made me embarrassed to be an American when we knowingly let 3 innocent people rot in prison. I just hope the best of everything for those guys, they deserve it!!!
Good video. I agree completely with your opinion on this case. You summed up my feeling on John Mark Byers completely. I am really hoping they're able to conclusively prove who the real killer(s) are some day. Jason, Damien and Jesse as well as Stevie, Christopher and Michael deserve justice. I'm glad they're free, but sadly there is no justice in how their freedom came about.
truthseekr4life 2 weeks ago
0:42 "...they are ackowledging that the state has anough evidence to bring them to new trial and possibly convict"
lol.
The irony here is clearly lost on the supporters.
Takes a lot of integrity to plead guilty under the Alford plea (a plea named after a man who was himself ...guity!) to a case that they could have been convicted for had they gone back to trail. Hilarious.
This video is text book wm3.
weirdcitykid 1 month ago
@weirdcitykid Actually, I was wrong when I said "possibly convict". It is simply acknowledgment that the state could bring them back to trial. Time to keep up with developments on the case...eyewitnesses are now coming forward who heard Terry Hobbs confess to this crime. Pam Hobbs is now calling for the case to be reopened based on this new evidence.
Farmboy7899 1 month ago
@Farmboy7899
Enough with the Hobbs crap! Even the supporters gave up on that one - I take it you haven't seen Paradise Lost 3 yet then? If you had you would see - even the film makers have distanced themselves from the Hobbs "smokescreen".
It's all smoke and mirrors with you guys isn't.
weirdcitykid 1 month ago
@weirdcitykid Actually I have watched Purgatory, but new evidence has come to light in an even newer film "West Of Memphis". Check this out: ww w dot wreg dot com/news/wreg-mother-of-murdered-west-memphis-8-year-old-speaks-out-about-new-evidence-in-the-case--20120123,0,4876043.story
Farmboy7899 1 month ago
@Farmboy7899 I altered the link with "dot" because youtube does not allow links.
Farmboy7899 1 month ago
@Farmboy7899
Dude not the Hobbs thing again - seriously Pamela hates him and her family blame him for the death of one of thier own. Plus, your reporters are terrible - Hobbs confirmed DNA was not found on the scene and even if it was Hobbs ...oh I give up. You are better than this - sure claim the wm3 are innocent but please don't frame one of the fathers. I am out of here.
weirdcitykid 1 month ago
@weirdcitykid Most violent crimes are committed by a person or persons that the victim(s) know(s). The parents are the FIRST place the police should have looked. Of course a corrupt police department is going to clear Hobbs, because they would have looked like the idiots they are for a lame satanic cult theory and arresting the wrong people. This is the bible belt, where anything not Christian is satanic. Its pathetic.
Farmboy7899 1 month ago
@weirdcitykid I admit the reporters should have said a hair was found that is consistent with Hobbs instead of saying DNA, but it is enough to raise suspicion.
Farmboy7899 1 month ago
@Farmboy7899
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weirdcitykid 1 month ago
hello Farmboy7899 i have one more question somewhat unrelated, somewhat because while i was thinking about this case this question poped in my mind, lets say a foreigner commits a major crime then flees to his native land and the only way that native country will extradite the suspect back to the US is if the US governemet promise that they will not seek the death penalty but once that suspect gets here the US execute the suspect anyway, what will be the the fall out of that?
WeAreLions013 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@WeAreLions013 Are you referring to a specific case or is this hypothetical? If this is an actual case, I'd like to do some research on it before I answer. If it is simply hypothetical, then my guess is the criminal's home country would retaliate with either force or a highly public smear campaign. Another wrench in the works is if the criminal has diplomatic immunity.
Farmboy7899 1 month ago
@WeAreLions013 yeah it was just a hypothetical question, the answer you gave seems like it could be correct, thank you.
WeAreLions013 1 month ago
The Alford plea is the lesser of two evils. 6 people lost their lives 3 never had a chance...Good luck Men
MikStiff 1 month ago
Hello Farmboy7899 do you know how i could watch the whole arkansas supreme court hearing depicted in the third film Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory i have tried everything i know to try so maybe you can help thank you.
WeAreLions013 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@WeAreLions013 WM3 dot Org may still have it on their site, if not I know it is here on Youtube in sections.
Farmboy7899 1 month ago
@Farmboy7899 thanks again.
WeAreLions013 1 month ago
I just watched Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory on HBO as it aired. I will be making a new video with my thoughts on that shortly.
Farmboy7899 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I have to admit,as the judge was reading the information out, it sounded like they weren't going to let them out, my heart almost beat out of my chest. I had never of the Alford plea until that day, I still can't believe they're free. It's a blessing to know that they'll be home with their families for the holidays this year.I'm not happy about the way they had to plea guilty in order for them to be let out, it's a dirty way of doing business but I'm happy that Jason was selfless in this act.
greenjellybean978 5 months ago in playlist Liked
Sorry Farmboy7899, didn't mean to answer that for you. Thought it was meant for whoever. I too, love all of your videos.
pearljambuff 6 months ago in playlist More videos from Farmboy7899
@pearljambuff It is not a problem. LOL. I have much to do as of late, and it is difficult to keep up with everything.
Farmboy7899 6 months ago
Do you have any information on what the wm3 have been up to since their release? I'm dying of curiosity. All I've heard is the story about the iphone, and the rooftop party. I just can't get enough of them, and can't wait til paradise lost 3. Thanks for all your videos!
chrisnana55 6 months ago
@chrisnana55 As far as I have heard, Damien and Lori are going on (a much needed and deserved) vacation. Jason is going to school. And Jessie is going to marry his girlfriend from the first "Paradise Lost" documentary. Romantic, I know...Ah, Free at last.! Farmboy, thanks for the information about "Clear the wm3". Will definitely check that out.
pearljambuff 6 months ago
Lol..no offense but this is hilarious - how can any saine person justify this. So they are pleading guilty becuase they acknowledge the prosecution has enough evidence to bring them to trail...lol.
Call me mr picky - but wouldn't that make them...duhhh guilty!
The last laugh goes to Echols - WM3 supporters suckerpunched in spectacular fashion. All they can do now is enter into bizarre logic to couter the dissonance - and that bad taste left from the recent events,
Suckers - I told you so!!!
weirdcitykid 6 months ago
The wm3, in a plea deal, admitted that they killed the 3 boys.
The defendants by acknowledging there was sufficient evidence towards guilt pretty much destroyed the supporter efforts to dismiss the evidence. All these years of back & forth between "nons" & "supporters" arguing about if there was sufficient evidence only to have the 3 convicted admit there was.
These 3 have confessed their way right out of prison thanks to you supporters. You helped free 3 child killers. You must be very proud?
exhibit500 6 months ago
@exhibit500
Actually you are right - they confessed their way out - and at the same time stuck two fingers up to all the supporters. Hell, I don't even need to worry about litigation and can keep my videos up - since they did indeed plead guilty - which was my view all along. Who would have ever thought it.
Congrats supporters - you just freed 3 child killers! Hope you feel good.
weirdcitykid 6 months ago
@Farmboy7899 - I live here in Arkansas. I was texting with an "insider" friend in Jonesboro all day. My brother has been at the same prison facilities as all three men during his incarceration.
We should not accept guilty plea conviction as a case closer. The WM3 are out of prison. The state got out as well.
1.They greatly reduced/eliminated the ability of the WM3 to bring about a civil complaint.
2.They eliminated the need to continue to investigate the case.
Find the RHH Killer(s)
l03ie 6 months ago
@l03ie We aren't giving up by a long shot. We've started a page on facebook CLEAR THE WM3-Supporters United in the fight for justice. Check it out.
Farmboy7899 6 months ago
@Farmboy7899 i'm having a hard time thinking about who the real killers are, and why they did this.
TrollTheToll 6 months ago
@TrollTheToll Many people believe it was Terry Hobbs and his friend David Jacoby. Some evidence does point their way, but a proper investigation must take place. We owe the 3 victims at least that much.
Farmboy7899 6 months ago
@Farmboy7899 what about the "bojangels" man? Seems like the most logical suspect. Not sure if he was ever identified.
bigj70634 6 months ago
@bigj70634 That is also true. I think we can all agree that a proper investigation needs to be conducted all the way around.
Farmboy7899 6 months ago
continued from below.... This entire case has been so screwed up since day one and now, instead of just allowing them to go home to their families and move on...they have to continue to try and clear their names. Well, as far as I'm concerned...they're names ARE CLEARED.! God Bless Damien, Jesse and Jason. I cried my eyes out watching their press conference. I cannot imagine how overwhelmed Damien must be with all of those people around him. Farmboy..thanks for the great videos..u rock!
edvedfan4life 6 months ago 2
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Oh their names are cleared are they? They plead guilty you imbecile!!! Do you know what that means - ??? Dress it up in crazy logic all you like - but they plead GUILTY!!! Innocent men do NOT plead guilty to murder.
Best line in this video "Pleading guilty does not imply guilt!". Hilarious.
weirdcitykid 6 months ago
@weirdcitykid your ignorance and name calling is pretty pathetic. get a life.
edvedfan4life 6 months ago
@weirdcitykid How about you educate yourself on what an Alford Plea is. Google it. Wikipedia it. I don't care how you find out, but please, before you make yourself sound anymore unintelligent, look it up.
Farmboy7899 6 months ago
My heart breaks for them still. I mean, yes...THANK GOD they are finally free...but there's a catch. Why? Why can't the prosecution just leave them alone and let them start their lives over. I hate it. I hate what our justice system has done to these men and are still continuing to do to them. It makes me sick to know that they had to enter a plea of "guilty". I don't blame them one bit...of course they HAD to do it so they could finally be free. It just still pisses me off.
edvedfan4life 6 months ago
I will be drinking a beer for the 3 free men from Arkansas tonight!!!! I raise my glass!!! I would love to know where the party is for them tonight!!!!
timthanson 6 months ago
It is about friggin time!!! I wanted to cry when I saw Jason & Damien hug. Your right about Jason, it takes a real stand up guy to do something like that for a friend. I can't imagine how they feel right now, especially Damien being in solitary confinement for that long. That whole situation made me embarrassed to be an American when we knowingly let 3 innocent people rot in prison. I just hope the best of everything for those guys, they deserve it!!!
marissa17044 6 months ago