Thanks very much for this. I have nothing but total admiration for all RAF crewmen: ground and air, British and Commonwealth, who fought dusting WW2. This captures a rare moment of that war, it's good stuff.
Hello, I'm from Poland and I know that was a Canadian Crew in Halifax that crashed down near Warsaw in 1944 (Dąbrowa Tarnowska). They flew to support Warsaw Uprising then despite it was suicide mission. They didn't refuse it. Great est respect for heroes that fought in foreign lands for other nations' freedom. Keep them remembered. As a Silesian and Pole I thanks for this video.
To think these Canadians were in their teens/early 20s........sort of puts things into perspective the next time you're annoyed that your Tim's coffee you are handed is not a 'double, double'!
@jimmyinablizzard Yep indeed, like the vast majority of Bomber Command aircrew - barely old enough to drive a car, let alone crew a four engine heavy far over enemy territory.
My father was in 419 Moose Squadron RCAF ...served as mid upper gunner on the Lancaster 1943-1945 completing 31 missions over Germany, 21 of them at night..I shall check his log book. This video is beyond AMAZING. It brought a time long lost back to the present. This veterans daughter thanks you for posting this.
@hamiltoncritic Thank you for watching and commenting. I'm not very familiar with the 6 Group Squadrons. Its great that you have his log book/s - a real piece of history they must be, and tribute to someone Im sure is a great man. Regards.
My Grandfathers name is Max and he was a warrant officer first class on a lancaster bomber crew for WWII...I noticed the name Max 2 times on this recoring...interesting.
i live in the amsterdam/zaandam area..lots of bombers crashed here on their way back.
on the 4 th of may and 5 th may we in holland have ww2 rememberance day...we lay flowers on the monuments of the crash sites..and keep at 20:00 hrs 2 minutes silence.
we ll never forget them...i thank ur grandfaters for freeing us...and u to for these videos..to keep them in memory alive,
303 magnetic, target must ave been south part of germany becouse flying back on 303 magnetic course brought them back to england.
must have been augsburg / munchen /bonn /koln/ stuttgart or the ruhr industrial area dussedorf /essen
course 303 brings them to amsterdam, (if continued, they end up in wather of the sea) and than course 270 to england however I dont know witch course should have been needed for RTB
maybe a waypoint in the sky for fighter protection from p 38`s / p 47 `s
@robot015 Thanks for watching and commenting. On balance of probabilities, this was a night raid, as most of RAF Bomber Commands raids were, so it is extremely unlikely they would have met with a fighter escort.
@robot015 Yes, I think your other assumprions are correct. I have been in contact with Ger Boogmans from the Dutch Branch of the Bomber Command Association regarding Lancaster JB659 which he had excavated from Zwannenburg (maybe this is near where you live?). Check Youtube for my JB659 videos... search for "The Story Of Avro Lancaster JB659".
I can only echo what others have said, thank you for this insight into the past,these were incredibly brave young men who invariably gave there lives to give us our freedom today! thank you to all those brave young crews and thanks to you for posting it!
that you for your postings... my great uncle was a navigator on a lancaster bomber during ww2 over europe. i never had the pleasure to meet him as he passed away well before i was born. but his memory and those of the crews of the lancaster are always remembered in our home. my 7 yr old son is building a lancaster model with my dad and also wants to learn as much as he can about the lancaster.:)
@stefansmom Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, the RCAF paid a very high price, Im sure youre all rightfully very proud of your Great Uncle. Wonderful to hear of a new generation taking such an interest as your son. Long may it continue.
Good speech! I agree entirely- RESPECT to Canada for her stalwart support in both World Wars. We would never have held the line without them. Visit Great Carrs ridge in the Lake District. There is a memorial dedicated to the crew of a RCAF Halifax that crashed on a night training Op in Dec 1944. There is still wreckage on the site. Any Canadians out there feel free to contact me & I will email the photo's of the memorial cairn.
Thanks for the acknowledgment of the role the RCAF played in helping you to continue to fight. It was a joint effot between all the Commonwealth countries and Allies. If you're still around, I would love to see the pictures of memorial sites as I'm very interested in Bomber Command
Great recording. My grandfather piloted a Lancaster for the RCAF from 43 onto 45 I believe and he wasn't all that much older than me. Listening to this gives me perspective on life.
Thanks for commenting. Just as a matter of interest, do you know what Squadron your Grandfather was in? There is a great CD out there by the BBC called "RAF Bomber Command at War 1939-45 (Vol. 1)" with three other recordings similar to this that you might like to try. Interesting to think that so many of these young men couldnt drive a car, and yet flew a a bomber to Germany and back under the most awful circumstances.
I've been trying to find out, but thank you! I never met my grandfather, but I've seen pictures of him and his crew with the plane and its just unreal. Apparently, he carried guilt around for the rest of life including on his deathbed because of the unknown amount of deaths he felt responsible for. And he was just the pilot. I have the utmost respect and gratitude for these men and their selfless service to Canada.
@hondoLS Like you I never met my grandad, survived the war (44 Squadron rear gunner Lancs) but died before I was born. Always fascinated by what they went through, must have been sheer hell. I know my grandad was wounded in a raid, but know little of his war record. Respect to all.
As if you were capting them having travelled unheard in the aether for 60 years. Heard for the second time by mankind as a reminder of those boys in their steel machines whose voices are likely to have vanished forever - but not completely. They've left this faint trace of their existence and their difficult task.
These gentlemen in my opinion were not in the first wave of this bomber raid. At about 0:44 you can hear a comment ''look at the fire''. This is followed by the comment ''...take over'' and a reply ''okay skipper''. This may have been the hand off of control of the plane from pilot to bombadier, which occurs over the target. Just some points I wanted to run by people.
What most folks don't know, especially us Americans, is that of every 100 men who flew on Bomber Command operations, 74 were either killed (the vast majority), wounded or taken prisoner.
I'm fairly sure that this was recorded on a "wire recorder " machine similar to a dictaphone. Tape recorders were still in their infancy at that time, and for sure a needle style recorder, with a acetate record would not have been suitable for a aircraft situation.
Thanks very much for this. I have nothing but total admiration for all RAF crewmen: ground and air, British and Commonwealth, who fought dusting WW2. This captures a rare moment of that war, it's good stuff.
Paganfuckingsexgod 1 month ago
From a very appreciative Aussie - well done those brave men!
gnarkillkicksass 3 months ago
I love this video, I just wish there were more of them.
TheCanadiangirl4 6 months ago
Hello, I'm from Poland and I know that was a Canadian Crew in Halifax that crashed down near Warsaw in 1944 (Dąbrowa Tarnowska). They flew to support Warsaw Uprising then despite it was suicide mission. They didn't refuse it. Great est respect for heroes that fought in foreign lands for other nations' freedom. Keep them remembered. As a Silesian and Pole I thanks for this video.
Roberto26666 9 months ago
you can tell they increased a lot of power at 1:20
LordGeorgeRodney 11 months ago
sounds like retro star wars...."we are passing through the magnetic field...."
sorry, a nerdy observation. let us pay homage to these brave and courageous bombing crew members.
waterman1976 1 year ago
thank you canada.
tubbymarshall 1 year ago
Wow this recording is amazing.
At the beginning they are ducking other Lancasters that are returning from dropping bombs.
1:10 "let's go the flaks getting bad"
They almost hit another plane at 1:30
KibbyCC 1 year ago
To think these Canadians were in their teens/early 20s........sort of puts things into perspective the next time you're annoyed that your Tim's coffee you are handed is not a 'double, double'!
GO CANADA! GO RCAF!
jimmyinablizzard 1 year ago
@jimmyinablizzard Yep indeed, like the vast majority of Bomber Command aircrew - barely old enough to drive a car, let alone crew a four engine heavy far over enemy territory.
Hanglands 1 year ago
i am crying. thanks.
glrcmptn 1 year ago
How was this recording made? Must've been a real jewel to recover..
Flatline89 1 year ago
Balls of steel... thank you guys.
oscarfish38 1 year ago
My father was in 419 Moose Squadron RCAF ...served as mid upper gunner on the Lancaster 1943-1945 completing 31 missions over Germany, 21 of them at night..I shall check his log book. This video is beyond AMAZING. It brought a time long lost back to the present. This veterans daughter thanks you for posting this.
hamiltoncritic 1 year ago
@hamiltoncritic Thank you for watching and commenting. I'm not very familiar with the 6 Group Squadrons. Its great that you have his log book/s - a real piece of history they must be, and tribute to someone Im sure is a great man. Regards.
Hanglands 1 year ago
My Grandfathers name is Max and he was a warrant officer first class on a lancaster bomber crew for WWII...I noticed the name Max 2 times on this recoring...interesting.
starbucksguitar 1 year ago
i ve not seen my last post appear, so ..again..
i live in the amsterdam/zaandam area..lots of bombers crashed here on their way back.
on the 4 th of may and 5 th may we in holland have ww2 rememberance day...we lay flowers on the monuments of the crash sites..and keep at 20:00 hrs 2 minutes silence.
we ll never forget them...i thank ur grandfaters for freeing us...and u to for these videos..to keep them in memory alive,
grtz from holland.
robot015 1 year ago
303 magnetic, target must ave been south part of germany becouse flying back on 303 magnetic course brought them back to england.
must have been augsburg / munchen /bonn /koln/ stuttgart or the ruhr industrial area dussedorf /essen
course 303 brings them to amsterdam, (if continued, they end up in wather of the sea) and than course 270 to england however I dont know witch course should have been needed for RTB
maybe a waypoint in the sky for fighter protection from p 38`s / p 47 `s
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robot015 1 year ago
@robot015 Thanks for watching and commenting. On balance of probabilities, this was a night raid, as most of RAF Bomber Commands raids were, so it is extremely unlikely they would have met with a fighter escort.
Hanglands 1 year ago
@Hanglands yes indeed , but u think the other things could be right??
grtz from amsteram
robot015 1 year ago
@robot015 Yes, I think your other assumprions are correct. I have been in contact with Ger Boogmans from the Dutch Branch of the Bomber Command Association regarding Lancaster JB659 which he had excavated from Zwannenburg (maybe this is near where you live?). Check Youtube for my JB659 videos... search for "The Story Of Avro Lancaster JB659".
Hanglands 1 year ago
@Hanglands zwanenburg is just in the backyard of schiphol airport
and indeed if u come out of germany, u first flu over zaandam and 15 kilometers further there is zwanenburg/schiphol.
robot015 1 year ago
@Hanglands zwanenburg is in the backyard of schiphol airport.
its 10 km from where i live in zaandam..
also lots of the poor guys crashed in the ``ijsselmeer``..
thats also on course 270 to england, u can use google maps and draw lines ..
grtz
robot015 1 year ago
@robot015 Sending you PM robot...
Hanglands 1 year ago
@Hanglands here where i live in amsterdam/zaandam area, lots of bombers crashed on their way back, lots of monuments on the crash sites..
on the 4 th of may, we go there and put flower on the monuments..
robot015 1 year ago
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robot015 1 year ago
After "bomb doors closed" it sounds like he says "Let's go! The flak is getting bad!"
GlobetrekkerYYC 1 year ago
I can only echo what others have said, thank you for this insight into the past,these were incredibly brave young men who invariably gave there lives to give us our freedom today! thank you to all those brave young crews and thanks to you for posting it!
beyergarret123 1 year ago
that you for your postings... my great uncle was a navigator on a lancaster bomber during ww2 over europe. i never had the pleasure to meet him as he passed away well before i was born. but his memory and those of the crews of the lancaster are always remembered in our home. my 7 yr old son is building a lancaster model with my dad and also wants to learn as much as he can about the lancaster.:)
stefansmom 1 year ago
@stefansmom Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, the RCAF paid a very high price, Im sure youre all rightfully very proud of your Great Uncle. Wonderful to hear of a new generation taking such an interest as your son. Long may it continue.
Hanglands 1 year ago
Thank you, so much. For uploading this piece of history.
Woozygulag 1 year ago
The majority of your videos impress me. Thanks again for an interesting video, much appreciated.
mrrmancunian 1 year ago
@mrrmancunian Many thanks mate.
Hanglands 1 year ago
i reli wana kno wt happened near the end =/ very brave men
bilgerats 2 years ago
the Flak was loud
DuttyDoogz 2 years ago
what happened at the end there?
patchbod 2 years ago 2
Thank you RCAF for your part in my freedom and my children's freedom.
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago 10
Good speech! I agree entirely- RESPECT to Canada for her stalwart support in both World Wars. We would never have held the line without them. Visit Great Carrs ridge in the Lake District. There is a memorial dedicated to the crew of a RCAF Halifax that crashed on a night training Op in Dec 1944. There is still wreckage on the site. Any Canadians out there feel free to contact me & I will email the photo's of the memorial cairn.
LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH 2 years ago 3
@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH
Thanks for the acknowledgment of the role the RCAF played in helping you to continue to fight. It was a joint effot between all the Commonwealth countries and Allies. If you're still around, I would love to see the pictures of memorial sites as I'm very interested in Bomber Command
TheCanadiangirl4 6 months ago
Great recording. My grandfather piloted a Lancaster for the RCAF from 43 onto 45 I believe and he wasn't all that much older than me. Listening to this gives me perspective on life.
hondoLS 2 years ago 4
Thanks for commenting. Just as a matter of interest, do you know what Squadron your Grandfather was in? There is a great CD out there by the BBC called "RAF Bomber Command at War 1939-45 (Vol. 1)" with three other recordings similar to this that you might like to try. Interesting to think that so many of these young men couldnt drive a car, and yet flew a a bomber to Germany and back under the most awful circumstances.
Hanglands 2 years ago
I've been trying to find out, but thank you! I never met my grandfather, but I've seen pictures of him and his crew with the plane and its just unreal. Apparently, he carried guilt around for the rest of life including on his deathbed because of the unknown amount of deaths he felt responsible for. And he was just the pilot. I have the utmost respect and gratitude for these men and their selfless service to Canada.
hondoLS 2 years ago 2
Im sending you a PM HondoLS.
Hanglands 2 years ago
@hondoLS Like you I never met my grandad, survived the war (44 Squadron rear gunner Lancs) but died before I was born. Always fascinated by what they went through, must have been sheer hell. I know my grandad was wounded in a raid, but know little of his war record. Respect to all.
DFCEngland 1 year ago
These voices from the past - very moving.
As if you were capting them having travelled unheard in the aether for 60 years. Heard for the second time by mankind as a reminder of those boys in their steel machines whose voices are likely to have vanished forever - but not completely. They've left this faint trace of their existence and their difficult task.
13Filmrisse 3 years ago 7
very well put 13Filmrisse I agree with you totally.
moonfaeriemagick 2 years ago
These gentlemen in my opinion were not in the first wave of this bomber raid. At about 0:44 you can hear a comment ''look at the fire''. This is followed by the comment ''...take over'' and a reply ''okay skipper''. This may have been the hand off of control of the plane from pilot to bombadier, which occurs over the target. Just some points I wanted to run by people.
medicboy89 3 years ago 2
What most folks don't know, especially us Americans, is that of every 100 men who flew on Bomber Command operations, 74 were either killed (the vast majority), wounded or taken prisoner.
Great recording. Where was it found?
TrooperJohnSmith 3 years ago 2
WOW...this is an amazing recording.
ijinokm 3 years ago
I'm fairly sure that this was recorded on a "wire recorder " machine similar to a dictaphone. Tape recorders were still in their infancy at that time, and for sure a needle style recorder, with a acetate record would not have been suitable for a aircraft situation.
Jim Bunting. Toronto.
jimbunting 3 years ago
Whoa! After 1:35 you can hear flak going off and one of the crew notes this: "it's getting close".
Thanks for this... it's a pretty close connection with history. I especially like this considering I am Canadian.
Maphisto86 4 years ago 4