And I wonder who will be remembered even after both of you are dead?..
Oooh an essay?! :D Why not keep your opinions to that then? Surely it would be rather more constructive - you never know it may even get you an extra mark! A good historian would know not to let personal bias factor into their judgment.. And deal with FACTS to way up both sides of an argument!
@KierThomp Lol unlikely! Bitch is on her last legs. And I watched various Thatcher videos as research for an essay comparing her with Cameron's Conservatives. :)
Geoffrey Howe's resignation speech seems a bit lame and hollow in light of the way things have developed with Europe and particularly the Euro. She was 100% on the money, not only on Europe but so many things but it is still not 'cool' to admit it - face up to it, next to Churchill, she was the best leader this country EVER had - FACT.
I feel really out of place. Still I hope Britain can get the Conservatives back in. We need to get another cross pond tag team like the good ol' days.
Heir heir Maggy. Spot on on Europe. Let Europe be a family of independent soverighn nations, not a centralized governing from brussels. The EU parliament and commission is full of overpaid dangerous EU federalists who want to abolish all european nations to create a new country called the United states of europe. Wake up people and vote for eurosceptic freedom loving right wing parties. down with socialist or communist parties. Stick to right wing, non racist parties.
@MrScottishJamie 75p of every pound that Scotland receives in tax comes from England. So, i suppose anything less than that, to you, would seem like robbery.
Maybe if you looked beyond the anti-Thatcher curriculum that fills so many Scottish schools. You would see that its the common fisheries policy of Europe, that really robs Scotland of its wealth.
The SNP politicians wont knock that on its head, because they wont have anything to bargain with, to further their careers within Europe.
margeret thatcher robed scotland out of £5 billion of oil revenue . The eu gives that missing 5 billion back because westminster is corrupt dont call yourself scottish ever you r a english brit . the only thing that with margeret thatcher was high crime maybe you a house robber
@MrScottishJamie The Tories have cut everybody's budget, more so in England than anywhere else. But you`ll still be getting three quarters of your budget from the English anyway, so im sure you`ll be fine....That is unless of course you gain total independence.
Ask your self why there are budget cuts....Actually, ask Gordon Brown (a Scot) or maybe Tony Blair (a scot).
@Thatcheriteme margeret thatcher stole scotlands oil read the mcrone report david cameron reduced scotlands budget scotland should be independent to stop the tories from crippling economy
the tories now r just scot bashing pricks just like there supporters
"Our destiny is in Europe, as part of the Community...willing and active co-operation is the best way to build a successful European Community. On many great issues the countries of Europe should try to speak with a single voice. I want to see us work more closely on the things we do better together than alone; Europe is stronger when we do so."
We need someone like Margaret to fight for the UK's interests in Europe. David Cameron is a useless fop. If Thatcher was still PM, I think she'd fundamentally renegotiate our relationship with the EU, returning power to the UK's Parliament.
This speech should be blanket viewing on TV today. The majority of British people would agree with every word of it. The Treaty that we weren't allowed to vote on virtually killed all the nationalities. One of the first rukes it stated was that countries are no longer allowed to be called countries. We are all States of Europe now. Listen to her point at 2:50
Hehe... Yeah, I almost fell for the anti-EU Maggie routine :))
God forbid that it's the same Maggie who courted Austrian proponents of anarcholiberalism who along with deposed decrepit European aristocracy sought to establish pimped up version of the United States of Greater Austria in the guise of EU.
Sure she's against EU when it comes to UK; she knows exactly what she's helped create and no sane person wants something like this for his own country.
Here here to every syllable spoken by this great woman - and even better leader! The European Union, especially now, has served its purpose and now serves for little more than to drain money out of our already heavily damanged economy! All states and nations should be sovereign, not a power in one nation telling those in another what to do! It's outrageous and heartbreaking because it seems like such an enormous step backwards.
Thatcher broke up the 3 west,north&east ridings of Yorkshire ,which had been in existence since Saxon times,to move boundaries about in an effort to gain more tory seats,unfogivable,erosion of Englands history.
@barneyboscoe Thats as stupid as moaning about the Romans for building the bloody long wall t'up north. Boundary changes happen all the time so that voting is fair.
Sir(s): If I may, how important it is to underscore the fact that We may not ever allow Others, whoever they may be, to steal, destroy, nor replace one's Identity. These are, as I personally have seen these the following, namely, 1) Identity Theft; 2) Identity Destruction; and 3) Identity Replacement. Thank you for your Most Valuable Time. Have a Nice Day. Godspeed.
This is quite interesting. Though I think the idea that legal harmonisation would affect 'personality' is over-egged. Whether we should hang on to certain 'customs' really depends on what the customs are.
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Stupid capitalist cunt, she says the soviet union cut europe from it's roots? while she sat in her ivory tower her nation was flooded by third world pakis & blacks.
the country would become formidable under my leadership,
a completely new look on life, a new way to live, currency swept away, all industries working for good of the nation and no more makets, capital punishment introduced, everyone working for their leader and their families. gurranteed jobs for all.
the country would be britain at its best - and no one could stop it
do you know a man can be brainwashed with a simple drug in his food, or simple therapy?
you may say to me - how will you get people to follow you, they will resist?
firstly, no one will resist because their food will have engram bullets in it which controls brain function, and then a simple tax evaulation or scheme to bring people into the clincs to get brainwashed will be sufficient.
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of course i do,that s why i say that.britain is the biggest warmonger and strogest colonial power of all times with tons of blood on its hands!u cant deny that mr royalist
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im an irish republican hate the Women myself but she did have some sense about Europe. its going to be The United States of Europe as Soon as the European Union Constitution is Signed by Gordan Brown. the Women herself let my people die in Jail because she was a Real Bitch, but Europe is Getting to Strong now.
UPDA TRI COLOUR OF GREEN, WHITE AND ORANGE AND THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
This speech on youtube is edited. If you read the speech on Thatcher's website, its becomes much more clear that she's Pro EU but that she wants it to be intergovernmenta/decentralized.
@gustavit0 i think that probably the biggest killers of argentinians were the junta itself, don't you think?or were they just feeding the poor hungry sharks?
maybe you will enlighten us today and will reveal that was in argentina at the time a huge outcry for the liberation of the maldinas from english domination.
hold on a minute, wasn't it that the criollos porteños fought for their independence because they wanted to trade with their english friends?oh,this looks like an old tradition
margaret thatcher i personally find brilliant! but i am more for the snp's but i have no problem with being british, i quite enjoy it, but its time for a change i think
Why does Thatcher rail against some kind of artifically constructed European identity, whilst preaching about the wonders of the "British" identity?
Britishness, like European-ness is a politically expedient construct. In Thatcher's own United Kingdom there are various nationalisms at work - Scottish, English, Welsh etc?
Why is that OK for the United Kingdom but not for Europe, in her view? Is that not hypocracy?
That sounds like a fair point to make. However this is not about hypocracy. The reason I say that is this.
Britain is stronger united as one, and not for the nation to strip its powers to Brussels. If a european level was created, it would mean europe being able to undermine the unity of this nation.
Although the idea is the same in having a union, it would mean the handing over of soverighty that Thatcher wanted to maintain in the hands of the Crown and the British parliament.
Well, as someone who is not a Unionist, I can't really relate to any of that.
But, I think the point I made before is extremely valid and if we broaden it onto a more political and constitutional level, even more so, when we introduce the constituent countries of the UK to the argument.
Thatcher opposed power being usurped to the European insitutions combined with railing against a European identity whilst pressing her overarching British identity on many of us, who don't idenitify with it.
Yet Mrs Thatcher supported power being usurped from Scotland and being concentrated in Crown in Parliament in a different country to Scotland.
What I am saying is that we have an almost analogous situation in the UK and in the development of the UK to what is happening with the UK's integration with the EU.
Thatcher supported the retention of power away from the countries of the UK - especially Scotland, Wales and NI - but was viscerally against a parallel development in terms of the EU.
This is more than just a thatcherite or unionist argument if you wish to call it. This is a union which formed over many years of an evolving uncodfied constitution, of which has that flexibility to adapt for its own interest. If you want to
go back even further, this island was known as Britannia beforehand.
It's quite suprising how you don't show support for the union while using the excuse that many people dont support it, when ironically MOST people dont support a federal europe.
I don't support a federal Europe, and I didn't say that I did. I think the majority of fellow Europeans don't support a federal Europe either. I do support closer European relations within the framework of nation-states. But I believe that Scotland - not the UK - should be one of those nation states.
The UK Union formed the way it did because it had to. There is no special resonance because it has an uncodified constitution. It was a political invention - like the EU and Britishness.
Tell me now would Scotland on it's own be in a better state, had it been on its own? Where would it be on the security council, when measuring the nation as a whole on global share GDP? It shares its powers in parliament, it itsn't dictated as you call it by the UK as it is part of that. I think it comes down to the point that you mix your background identity with politics of which would actually be damaging to the strength and unity with your country.
We'd be exactly where we should be a member in our own right among the community of nations. Working in partnership with others, whilst having the full ability to affect our own internal affairs. We aren't any of that now. We have no ability to alter a great many of our own internal affairs. Our opinions and needs in the international community are marginalised or ignored as being a very small part of a much larger entity. That is the problem with centralised union.
Ok so matters that concern the British military is not that important is it? Britains nuclear detterent, the royal navy, royal airforce. If Scotland decided to leave the union all of that and including other matters will be kept under England's control as it is where it orginates from. A population of just over 7 million would have to pay for their own military by themselves. And who will they turn too...? The answer is clear cut. It would be an ambarrasement for whats kept us all stronger...
I'm happy for these things to be under England's control. England's taxpayers can also fork out to service them and remove them from Scotland -such as the nuclear deterrent. Scotland will of course be due its pro-rata share of defence equipment on independence.
A population of just over 7m having to pay to defend itself? I suppose you think the Norwegians (4m), Swiss (7.5m) don't defend themselves?
We can certainly work together with the other nations of the UK but we'll get to set the terms.
Damaging in the sense that Scotland has no real influence nore the security to actually safe guard itself without the union that has shaped this nation to becoming the state as we see it today. If such a time comes when the union Jack no longer exists, I dont want to be in this country to see it and I surely expect England to not support Scotland in anyway when the going gets tougth as it would make its own decisions from separating. And where would it turn too? The EU and hand over soverighty.
That's not really true is it? What is the obsession with influence? The only influence that Scotland needs is over its own affairs and territorial jurisdiction. We have no desire to interfere with the affairs of other countries.
Your last point astounds me. It isn't about England "supporting" Scotland, but there is no reason why those countries cannot work with one another. We do not need to be in a Union to do that.
... and it does matter when it comes to affairs abroad. So many things go on we don't even know about that help maintain the stability of this nation. From the biggest credit crunch since 1929's crash, our country is still standing wihout being declared bankrupt. Ask the Icelanders, Austrians, Hungarians and many others. Scotland would be powerless on its own, no wonder it turned to the British government to bail them out over a strike concerning the nations north sea oil.
All countries are affected by the economic downturn - and the UK is not exactly in a strong or healthy position with its mountain of public and personal debt - it is "worst placed" according to the World Bank.
Scotland would not be powerless with its own resources any more than the UK is powerless in a global crisis. Country Size does not matter in a crisis like this - policy does.
As for your last point, the UK govt has never bailed Scotland out with respect to oil or anything else.
Oh really, so Scotland has never benefited from receiving income from the UK as a whole? Scotland on it's own could of really created the worlds largest empire, not to mention insure Edinburgh maintains it is the 6th largest finacial economy. Oh hang on is not the Royal bank of Scotland now nationalised or at least bailed out by the British Government with HBOS? Go ahead and parade all you like, I know and deep down after using Scottish nationalism Alex salamond knows it after running to G.Brown
On the first question, no I don't believe Scotland benefitted from receiving income from the UK as a whole, anymore than Switzerland has. Secondly Scotland wouldn't have wanted or needed to create a large empire had it been independent. Thirdly Dublin is 5th largest European financial centre and it isn't part of the UK. Fourthly if other countries - Norway, Sweden and Ireland - can recapitalise their banking system there is no reason why Scotland couldn't.
Well lets put it to the test, however there won't be a come back should that day happen. I believe it will if your happy know, which is why warning after warning Scotland will still refuse to listen.
When it comes to represent itself on the security council which you seem to laugh at and leave for under 'Englands control', then Scotland will know.
tondabone, I realise you think I'm some kind of filthy, traitorous separatist, but I'm a nice person really :-)
I just believe you are putting big imaginery boundaries up when thinking of independence. You don't seem to have a high opinion of Scottish people if you don't think they could have the foresight to run their own affairs and that is pretty insulting don't you think?
I never for one second think nore said that! I find that what makes Britain great is working together in the way it has done from the high times to the low ones, it has pulled through a stronger nation united. Seriously I dont think the low of you nore anyone because of their identity. I'm not all an extreme right minded guy. I just have pride for the nation, the Union Jack. Not because I'm a Unionist as you call it, but for the feeling I get inside when i see it anywhere in the world.
I don't see why we need to share a Parliament to continue to work together, where it is in the interests of the countries to do so. We can work together with the USA and we share a language with them but we don't need to share a Parliament to do that
I understand the feelings you have regarding the Union and its principles. That is the way you feel and that is fair enough. I don't see things in that way and I wouldn't essentially call myself a Scottish nationalist because I support independence
Those are fair points fine on other nations. But what has shaped Scotlands success these last 300 or so years? What has made England I'll admit the power as it is today including. Parliament is for all the countries in the union, which confus
Parliament is for all the countries that shape this union and British identity. And the way I see it maybe different to your own. But it is a sensitive subject which if such a decision or when the decision happens, it could only be taken once and I dont think I could ever get to understand nore support it. The USA merged as one before the states regarded themselves as independent. They being the largest power have done so by maintaing the US. I suppose thats irony of our evolving constitution
I can't understand why Parliament underpins the British identity? I don't think the Scottish Parliament underpins Scottish identity? As for the rest of what you say, I suppose that is fair enough and consistent with your own feelings on the issue.
I'm glad we can speak on the subject with less conflict and personal digs at one another. I don't see my myself as a unionist just as you don't wish to see yourself as a scottish nationalist if thats correct. However it is all vital disregarding the down turns, that the union thats shaped this Island over the years remains intact. Parliament is for the MP'S of the whole nation, not just for a certain region. I could go on and on, but you have your views and I have mine, so I'll leave it here.
Well, success is a moot point - I certainly don't think Scotland has been as successful as she could be - especially when compared to many of our European neighbours. Indeed it can be credibly argued that the decline of the British Empire had a far graver economic effect on Scotland than the rest of the UK.
The Union has shaped Scotland, no doubt, but can you really say it has ALL been as positive as some Unionists try to make out? I don't.
Absolutely likewise. It is nice to converse with a Unionist who doesn't hurl abuse about because they see a nationalist. Its also nice to see a Unionist be honest about how they feel - I take it you are not Scottish - because Unionists of your calibre (and TheBritishWatcher, too who is also one of Youtube's foremost and articulate Unionists) are distinctly lacking up here.
im scottish and i agree that scotland is perfectly capable of running its own affairs.... but i still think that we will do slightly better in the uk than out of it..... i mean its not as if scotland has no say in the uk govt.... we have a scottish pm at the moment...... and many many great scottish mps who do make their voices heard
Many, many great Scottish MPs? I hardly think so. Most of them are serving their own interests on the London Westminister gravytrain.
Yes we have a Scottish PM and he is presiding over the worst peacetime destruction of the UK economy. It is so bad that some of the world's best financiers have declared the UK to be "finished" as a global force (not that it has really been for the last 50 years).
and by saying serving their own interests u mean what exactly? i agree about gordon brown but my point was that scots do very well in shaping the policys in westminster...... i do not think that it is just an english dictatorship
Well, Scottish MPs have a rather limited workload. They vote on matters that don't concern their constituents like English Health and English Education. They get many perks and allowances. Labour MPs have the prospect of getting on the government payroll. In short, they are serving their own interests.
I do not agree it is a dictatorship either - English or otherwise. But the Scots do not do well in shaping policies.
john smith? alistair darling? gordon brown? john reid? douglar alexander? you are seriously trying to tell me these men had no influence, in the scottish favour, in the govt or the labour party...... i could go on about many other scottish mps who have over the years created great differances... in or out of govt..... i do see some of the points u make such as a scots mp does not have a lot to do now...... well even i admit that thats a problem.
Nope I do not agree they had influence in the Scottish favour, unless you are accusing them of putting the Scottish favour at the VERY forefront of their dealings. You surely can't think that was the case?
Secondly most of the individuals you name have been active in the curreng government - perhaps the worst government to visited upon us in recent years.
In essence the effect they had on policies came from their own PERSONAL and ideological influence. Not from where they come from.
take past mps john smith, donald dewer..... and all the other ones i mentioned had a lot to do with bringing about scottish devolution..... no influence..... common just admit that they did..... i suppose u r gonna tell me now that it was english mps who wanted devolution for scotland.....
Actually, that is a good example of them doing something to further their own narrow political interests.
Had the SNP not burst onto the political scene in 1967 and had the spectre of independence not threatened the seats of many Labour MPs, I doubt devolution would have got off the ground in the way it did. I mean, looked at the botched referendum in 1979.
Labour saw devolution as a vote winner and a way to consolidate their power base in Scotland for a very long time.
u really dont see any of my points at all? common i am trying to to understand where u r coming from the least u can do if u want to argue is accept when i do have a point...... the tory party may b small in scotland but labour is not.... u cannot tar every one of them with unscottish views..... i have never met a scot who wasnt proud of his country
I do see the points you are making, but I don't agree with them. I just don't see any evidence for this supposed benefit for Scotland that's all.
If they really did put Scotland at the forefront of their objectives we wouldn't have the shocking social problems we currently have (amongst the worst in Europe), the badly performing economy, the educational standards in decline over their period in office and so on.
Why are the Labour voting areas of Scotland the poorest and most deprived?
well that is a bigger question i feel.... i think that it has a lot to do with labour and the way in which they have dealt with problems in scotland.... but i dont actually think that any of the other partys were much better..... to me the problems in scotland run far deeper than who our politicians are..... but i do think it is getting better in some ways..... kids are better educated, housed, fed now than in the past..... but problems like health have got worse and seem to do so in poor areas
Yes those are all very fair points. I just can't help feeling that individual freedom and empowerment do come from the way you are governed. I think the way Scotland has been governed in the past only entenches the problems.
That's why Scotland needs to stand on its own two feet. We all sink or swim together like any other country. Do you think faced with that, the people of Scotland would allow themselves to sink?
She might have been a Unionist, but I'd bet Mrs Thatcher would secretly approve
i agree with the sink or swim aspect.... when i was a teenager i had a bad time living on handouts from my parents..... i then moved out and eventually ended up with no money and no house to live in...... i showered at a swimming pool and i lived in my car for 2 months as i got enough money to get a flat....... it taught me the best lesson i ever learned..... and that was because at that time i had no where to get money from other than from my own efforts.... scots need to learn that lesson
I support independence more than the SNP - they are just a means to getting there. After independence I'd vote for the Tories. Not before.
I'm a great admirer of Margaret Thatcher. I think she did a lot of good - but I do think in some areas she did do a bit of lasting harm, but on the whole I'm favourable towards her.
But I want Scotland to take responsibility for ourselves. No more living on fixed budgets, or taking our lead from Westminister. We need to confront our own problems ourselves.
How would you propose to fix the budget deficit Scotland would face if she became independent? The only way to solve UK problems is in the British Parliament, there is no Scottish problem its a British problem you must stop thinking that them and us, but more united only then can solve the problems of the day. There is only the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. United being the most important word.
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How does any country fix its budget deficit? EVERY country in the world runs a budget deficit for MOST of the time. The UK does, the US does, Germany, France, Japan and so on. Scotland is no different and would be no different on independence.
The Scottish Government will have the ability to design policies that only need to take account of Scotland's circumstances. They will be in charge of Scotland's resources and finances and they'll have to manage it.
Back to your argument on the rentention of power away from countries in the UK, the united kingdom insures that those powers are not denuded or underminded by another institution whether it be in Brussels or elsewhere. Being British is about the different aspects of this Island and while yes it is a union that perhaps some don't want to support as their identity, it very much safeguards that identity under the British system more so than any other institution. Where would they be independantly?
It doesn't matter whether the UK ensures these powers are denuded further or undermined by some European institution. The point was that the very nature of the UK is that it denuded powers from the components countries of the UK itself and dictatorally centralised them in the unitary state. In many ways the UK is much worse than the EU in this regard - after all, EU states have not lost their overall sovereignty or the identity - or their independence.
god please send a margaret thatcher like personality to guide us the u.s we could use a leader like you you are the most important woman of the last 100 years with out a doubt
A heroic speech by our great Prime Minister. Why have so many of our political leaders (and indeed those across Europe) allowed the Union to hold such dangerous and fundamentally undemocratic powers? Thatcher defended Britain's interests and sovereignty - it's a pity we haven't had more leaders that have done the same.
And I wonder who will be remembered even after both of you are dead?..
Oooh an essay?! :D Why not keep your opinions to that then? Surely it would be rather more constructive - you never know it may even get you an extra mark! A good historian would know not to let personal bias factor into their judgment.. And deal with FACTS to way up both sides of an argument!
@KierThomp Lol unlikely! Bitch is on her last legs. And I watched various Thatcher videos as research for an essay comparing her with Cameron's Conservatives. :)
@Electroma94
And I wonder who will be remembered even after both of you are dead?..
Oooh an essay?! :D Why not keep your opinions to that then? Surely it would be rather more constructive - you never know it may even get you an extra mark! A good historian would know not to let personal bias factor into their judgment.. And deal with FACTS to way up both sides of an argument!
KierThomp 1 week ago
@Electroma94 Why watch footage such as this if you dislike Mrs Thatcher so much?..
And what a totally inappropriate comment and lets just hope you kick the bucket before she does in that case!
KierThomp 2 weeks ago
@KierThomp bravo! answer because they find thatcher sexy really
JimmyThatcher 2 weeks ago
@JimmyThatcher No, she's an ugly old dog.
Electroma94 2 weeks ago
@KierThomp Lol unlikely! Bitch is on her last legs. And I watched various Thatcher videos as research for an essay comparing her with Cameron's Conservatives. :)
Electroma94 2 weeks ago
I am literally holding my breath until the day this wicked bitch dies.
Electroma94 3 weeks ago
@Electroma94 scumbag
JimmyThatcher 2 weeks ago
We still love you Lady Thatcher.
Regards,
America
rkettell 1 month ago
And how right she was, as always.
The last great PM this country had. Socialists are in the minority with thier vile opinions about her, as all polls show.
Kozzy06 1 month ago
Wish we had her in Brussels today ;(
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BritishAndProudNS 2 months ago
Immigration in the UK now at 250000 a year....
beastinblack 2 months ago
So much common sense from this woman. No wonder the left hate her.
beastinblack 2 months ago
Does anyone know the speach where she talks about the "weak and feeble lot" ?
seppsters 4 months ago
I'm european and I agree 100%. European cultures are disappearing.
seppsters 4 months ago
Geoffrey Howe's resignation speech seems a bit lame and hollow in light of the way things have developed with Europe and particularly the Euro. She was 100% on the money, not only on Europe but so many things but it is still not 'cool' to admit it - face up to it, next to Churchill, she was the best leader this country EVER had - FACT.
multimill 4 months ago 6
I feel really out of place. Still I hope Britain can get the Conservatives back in. We need to get another cross pond tag team like the good ol' days.
Dethbot4 6 months ago in playlist Margaret Thatcher Tribute 3
She was 100% right on Europe.
Fine women.
Kozzy06 7 months ago 3
Heir heir Maggy. Spot on on Europe. Let Europe be a family of independent soverighn nations, not a centralized governing from brussels. The EU parliament and commission is full of overpaid dangerous EU federalists who want to abolish all european nations to create a new country called the United states of europe. Wake up people and vote for eurosceptic freedom loving right wing parties. down with socialist or communist parties. Stick to right wing, non racist parties.
NumberDne 8 months ago 2
the last true european conservative.
kralle7611 9 months ago
Maggie could see the EUSSR coming, I'm sorry to say that at the time I couldn't.
arthur1411 10 months ago 3
Or is it ''''BRITISH?..........And any case, fuck that little of shit John hippie Lennon......!
TOLTECAAZTECA 11 months ago
John lennon was also know as being a self hating English pro irish pro american wannabe traitor.
charlieiscool1000 7 months ago
@charlieiscool1000 america is on our side you fool. fuck the irish.
FadeToBlack888 2 months ago
The fact that a whole nation bows to a woman..........That in itself is a good indication that the English are a bunch of pussy's.
TOLTECAAZTECA 11 months ago
I can't decide whether I want her to die or for her to carry on living with her brain rotting inside her head. Tough call.
codelocator 11 months ago
This counts as revision, right?? lol
bazookachin 1 year ago
Margaret Thatcher robed scotland thank goodness the scots r seeing sence and voting snp
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago
@MrScottishJamie 75p of every pound that Scotland receives in tax comes from England. So, i suppose anything less than that, to you, would seem like robbery.
Maybe if you looked beyond the anti-Thatcher curriculum that fills so many Scottish schools. You would see that its the common fisheries policy of Europe, that really robs Scotland of its wealth.
The SNP politicians wont knock that on its head, because they wont have anything to bargain with, to further their careers within Europe.
Thatcheriteme 9 months ago
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MrScottishJamie 9 months ago
margeret thatcher robed scotland out of £5 billion of oil revenue . The eu gives that missing 5 billion back because westminster is corrupt dont call yourself scottish ever you r a english brit . the only thing that with margeret thatcher was high crime maybe you a house robber
MrScottishJamie 9 months ago
scots lose 5 billion every year thanks to margeret thatcher and now david cameron has cut scotlands budget . tories just want scotlands £££££££££
MrScottishJamie 9 months ago
@MrScottishJamie The Tories have cut everybody's budget, more so in England than anywhere else. But you`ll still be getting three quarters of your budget from the English anyway, so im sure you`ll be fine....That is unless of course you gain total independence.
Ask your self why there are budget cuts....Actually, ask Gordon Brown (a Scot) or maybe Tony Blair (a scot).
Thatcheriteme 8 months ago
@Thatcheriteme margeret thatcher stole scotlands oil read the mcrone report david cameron reduced scotlands budget scotland should be independent to stop the tories from crippling economy
the tories now r just scot bashing pricks just like there supporters
MrScottishJamie 8 months ago
@MrScottishJamie .................read the 1st paragraph of my last comment.
Thatcheriteme 8 months ago
@Thatcheriteme SNP r winning tories r unwanted in scotland FACT
MrScottishJamie 8 months ago
"Our destiny is in Europe, as part of the Community...willing and active co-operation is the best way to build a successful European Community. On many great issues the countries of Europe should try to speak with a single voice. I want to see us work more closely on the things we do better together than alone; Europe is stronger when we do so."
That much at least even I can agree with.
scottishliberal 1 year ago
We need someone like Margaret to fight for the UK's interests in Europe. David Cameron is a useless fop. If Thatcher was still PM, I think she'd fundamentally renegotiate our relationship with the EU, returning power to the UK's Parliament.
MrToadful 1 year ago
This speech should be blanket viewing on TV today. The majority of British people would agree with every word of it. The Treaty that we weren't allowed to vote on virtually killed all the nationalities. One of the first rukes it stated was that countries are no longer allowed to be called countries. We are all States of Europe now. Listen to her point at 2:50
Dites1954 1 year ago
Japan needs Mrs Thatcher, too.
agemangirl1919 1 year ago
Hehe... Yeah, I almost fell for the anti-EU Maggie routine :))
God forbid that it's the same Maggie who courted Austrian proponents of anarcholiberalism who along with deposed decrepit European aristocracy sought to establish pimped up version of the United States of Greater Austria in the guise of EU.
Sure she's against EU when it comes to UK; she knows exactly what she's helped create and no sane person wants something like this for his own country.
Lillymill 1 year ago
Here here to every syllable spoken by this great woman - and even better leader! The European Union, especially now, has served its purpose and now serves for little more than to drain money out of our already heavily damanged economy! All states and nations should be sovereign, not a power in one nation telling those in another what to do! It's outrageous and heartbreaking because it seems like such an enormous step backwards.
ryanaircaughtnapping 1 year ago
Thatcher broke up the 3 west,north&east ridings of Yorkshire ,which had been in existence since Saxon times,to move boundaries about in an effort to gain more tory seats,unfogivable,erosion of Englands history.
barneyboscoe 1 year ago
@barneyboscoe Thats as stupid as moaning about the Romans for building the bloody long wall t'up north. Boundary changes happen all the time so that voting is fair.
pimpUK1 1 year ago
Sir(s): If I may, how important it is to underscore the fact that We may not ever allow Others, whoever they may be, to steal, destroy, nor replace one's Identity. These are, as I personally have seen these the following, namely, 1) Identity Theft; 2) Identity Destruction; and 3) Identity Replacement. Thank you for your Most Valuable Time. Have a Nice Day. Godspeed.
torstvillinger 1 year ago
Brillent speech, vote UKIP.
JustAnotherGuy186 1 year ago 2
This is quite interesting. Though I think the idea that legal harmonisation would affect 'personality' is over-egged. Whether we should hang on to certain 'customs' really depends on what the customs are.
InterviewTubeUK 1 year ago
Today's political scumbags couldn't even put together a speech like that let alone think it. Arnold 1947
arnoldattard 1 year ago 3
im from maggies hometown and proud of the fact that she was one of the best pms ever.
MrArnold1972 1 year ago
gordon brown should hear this, germany is once again domimant in europe and we all know what ends up happening when that happens
mukomet 1 year ago
what a stupid brainless moron you are.what a thing to say.its totally different now you idiot.think before speaking again.!!!!!!
MrArnold1972 1 year ago
this is excellent speech and so truthful..
Look what happens nowdays and you would want her back..i adore meggie
denmis23 2 years ago 3
@denmis23 i've tried to get her back apparently she cant , too old, We lost a good'n there !
We've got Brown though and ,,er..er ye awe are F'd and ..we have the EU !
klnine 1 year ago
"Be-ewdapest" LOL
redxenos 2 years ago
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Stupid capitalist cunt, she says the soviet union cut europe from it's roots? while she sat in her ivory tower her nation was flooded by third world pakis & blacks.
PatrioticStalinist 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more.
supremerat 2 years ago
Best PM in my lifetime.
Ermintrude75 2 years ago 2
Sounds to me like the ladys talking sense here. Id take Mrs Thatcher over Mr Brown any day! Rule Britania!!
HayleyGC 2 years ago 12
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FUCK THATCHER
globetrotter0580 2 years ago
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These were really bad years... Thank god, that we don´t have her anymore as PM!!
globetrotter0580 2 years ago
we just have a one eyed scottish twat
Galacticmaster 2 years ago
and you could do better you fucking wanker!!!!
MrArnold1972 1 year ago
yes i could,
the country would become formidable under my leadership,
a completely new look on life, a new way to live, currency swept away, all industries working for good of the nation and no more makets, capital punishment introduced, everyone working for their leader and their families. gurranteed jobs for all.
the country would be britain at its best - and no one could stop it
Galacticmaster 1 year ago
sounds fair enough unfortunately its a fantasy.come back down to earth.
MrArnold1972 1 year ago
fantasy,
where have you been these past years?
do you know a man can be brainwashed with a simple drug in his food, or simple therapy?
you may say to me - how will you get people to follow you, they will resist?
firstly, no one will resist because their food will have engram bullets in it which controls brain function, and then a simple tax evaulation or scheme to bring people into the clincs to get brainwashed will be sufficient.
easy as pie
Galacticmaster 1 year ago
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hope UK will break apart as Yugoslavia
eulex10 2 years ago
You're not really the sharpest tool in the shed are you, eulex10?
Lillymill 2 years ago
i dont like Britain and English get it?u dummoky
eulex10 2 years ago
I see you don't like thinking, either.
Lillymill 2 years ago
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of course i do,that s why i say that.britain is the biggest warmonger and strogest colonial power of all times with tons of blood on its hands!u cant deny that mr royalist
eulex10 2 years ago
@eulex10 you poor illiterate moron,the best part of you went down your father's leg.
barneyboscoe 1 year ago
@barneyboscoe ?
eulex10 1 year ago
was she mason?
eulex10 2 years ago
Fuck all you frogs legs eating, tomato picking, hairy foreign bastards. England Rules!!!!!!Cock suckers!!!!!!
P1mpMyBr1de 2 years ago
What a woman, what a great leader.
Britain and Europe needs Thatcher more than ever.
Vote Conservative at the next general election and consign Brown, ZanuLieBore and Socialism to the dustbin of history :-)
NuckinFuts666 2 years ago 49
@NuckinFuts666 we fucking did and they caused more fucking chaos
wokawoo10 11 months ago
@NuckinFuts666 Fuck off.
Electroma94 3 weeks ago
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im an irish republican hate the Women myself but she did have some sense about Europe. its going to be The United States of Europe as Soon as the European Union Constitution is Signed by Gordan Brown. the Women herself let my people die in Jail because she was a Real Bitch, but Europe is Getting to Strong now.
UPDA TRI COLOUR OF GREEN, WHITE AND ORANGE AND THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
FUCK WESTMINSTER
updaira 2 years ago
you tell them!
Richierua 2 years ago
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Evil through and through. hope her arm that broke really hurts .
escortmk112 2 years ago
jaja xD
gustavit0 2 years ago
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schlampe
RapeAPony666 2 years ago
This speech on youtube is edited. If you read the speech on Thatcher's website, its becomes much more clear that she's Pro EU but that she wants it to be intergovernmenta/decentralized.
mastgrr 2 years ago 3
just like the Irish voted lately:)
FidelAnge 2 years ago
No wonder 'The Grocer' Heath wanted to kill her. She'd have snapped his nuts off.
But, don't be fooled, she signed Treaties that tied us to where we are now.....up shit creek without a paddle.
dogsbreath101 2 years ago
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She is the most beautiful British woman (the rest of the British women are fat, ugly and harrowind)...
But she was shit.
Cheers...
contratodoelmundo 2 years ago
hear hear
conorsh34 2 years ago 4
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vieja puta!!!
gustavit0 2 years ago
Margaret is the Best! :)
LS8492 2 years ago 7
SHE IS THE BEST
ngai1842 2 years ago 8
yeah.. she was the best Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and argentine's killer too
gustavit0 2 years ago 18
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ma callate argentino de mierda
alfasera 2 years ago
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go fuck Margaret :)
gustavit0 2 years ago
@gustavit0
their is no best primeminister, just great leaders
im sorry to say blair, brown and cameron are not great leaders just fill in's until we can find our churchill or thatcher figure again
Galacticmaster 1 year ago
@gustavit0 i think that probably the biggest killers of argentinians were the junta itself, don't you think?or were they just feeding the poor hungry sharks?
maybe you will enlighten us today and will reveal that was in argentina at the time a huge outcry for the liberation of the maldinas from english domination.
hold on a minute, wasn't it that the criollos porteños fought for their independence because they wanted to trade with their english friends?oh,this looks like an old tradition
palohan 1 year ago
@gustavit0
She saved Argentina. Gave it democracy. One day South America will build statues to this great lady.
Strompy82 1 year ago
@Strompy82 Probably, it would not be her firstly murderess who has a street with his name =/
gustavit0 11 months ago
its scary how right she was.
Kozzy06 2 years ago 7
margaret thatcher i personally find brilliant! but i am more for the snp's but i have no problem with being british, i quite enjoy it, but its time for a change i think
kilda93 3 years ago
Why is it time for a change? Why break up a union that has work so well for more than 300 years?
Gaius51 2 years ago 6
was this speech in bruges? or why is it called the bruges speech? that's my hometown :)
guerno1 3 years ago
Why does Thatcher rail against some kind of artifically constructed European identity, whilst preaching about the wonders of the "British" identity?
Britishness, like European-ness is a politically expedient construct. In Thatcher's own United Kingdom there are various nationalisms at work - Scottish, English, Welsh etc?
Why is that OK for the United Kingdom but not for Europe, in her view? Is that not hypocracy?
globaltraveller 3 years ago
That sounds like a fair point to make. However this is not about hypocracy. The reason I say that is this.
Britain is stronger united as one, and not for the nation to strip its powers to Brussels. If a european level was created, it would mean europe being able to undermine the unity of this nation.
Although the idea is the same in having a union, it would mean the handing over of soverighty that Thatcher wanted to maintain in the hands of the Crown and the British parliament.
tondabone 3 years ago
And that soverighty does not have to be handed over because you sound like a hypocrit. Of course there are people who would bicker, find it critical.
But it is the union Jack that flies over parliament and there it should stay to represent this country and its importance as an individual state.
tondabone 3 years ago
Well, as someone who is not a Unionist, I can't really relate to any of that.
But, I think the point I made before is extremely valid and if we broaden it onto a more political and constitutional level, even more so, when we introduce the constituent countries of the UK to the argument.
Thatcher opposed power being usurped to the European insitutions combined with railing against a European identity whilst pressing her overarching British identity on many of us, who don't idenitify with it.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
Yet Mrs Thatcher supported power being usurped from Scotland and being concentrated in Crown in Parliament in a different country to Scotland.
What I am saying is that we have an almost analogous situation in the UK and in the development of the UK to what is happening with the UK's integration with the EU.
Thatcher supported the retention of power away from the countries of the UK - especially Scotland, Wales and NI - but was viscerally against a parallel development in terms of the EU.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
This is more than just a thatcherite or unionist argument if you wish to call it. This is a union which formed over many years of an evolving uncodfied constitution, of which has that flexibility to adapt for its own interest. If you want to
go back even further, this island was known as Britannia beforehand.
It's quite suprising how you don't show support for the union while using the excuse that many people dont support it, when ironically MOST people dont support a federal europe.
tondabone 3 years ago
I don't support a federal Europe, and I didn't say that I did. I think the majority of fellow Europeans don't support a federal Europe either. I do support closer European relations within the framework of nation-states. But I believe that Scotland - not the UK - should be one of those nation states.
The UK Union formed the way it did because it had to. There is no special resonance because it has an uncodified constitution. It was a political invention - like the EU and Britishness.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
Tell me now would Scotland on it's own be in a better state, had it been on its own? Where would it be on the security council, when measuring the nation as a whole on global share GDP? It shares its powers in parliament, it itsn't dictated as you call it by the UK as it is part of that. I think it comes down to the point that you mix your background identity with politics of which would actually be damaging to the strength and unity with your country.
tondabone 3 years ago
We'd be exactly where we should be a member in our own right among the community of nations. Working in partnership with others, whilst having the full ability to affect our own internal affairs. We aren't any of that now. We have no ability to alter a great many of our own internal affairs. Our opinions and needs in the international community are marginalised or ignored as being a very small part of a much larger entity. That is the problem with centralised union.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
Ok so matters that concern the British military is not that important is it? Britains nuclear detterent, the royal navy, royal airforce. If Scotland decided to leave the union all of that and including other matters will be kept under England's control as it is where it orginates from. A population of just over 7 million would have to pay for their own military by themselves. And who will they turn too...? The answer is clear cut. It would be an ambarrasement for whats kept us all stronger...
tondabone 3 years ago
I'm happy for these things to be under England's control. England's taxpayers can also fork out to service them and remove them from Scotland -such as the nuclear deterrent. Scotland will of course be due its pro-rata share of defence equipment on independence.
A population of just over 7m having to pay to defend itself? I suppose you think the Norwegians (4m), Swiss (7.5m) don't defend themselves?
We can certainly work together with the other nations of the UK but we'll get to set the terms.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
Damaging in the sense that Scotland has no real influence nore the security to actually safe guard itself without the union that has shaped this nation to becoming the state as we see it today. If such a time comes when the union Jack no longer exists, I dont want to be in this country to see it and I surely expect England to not support Scotland in anyway when the going gets tougth as it would make its own decisions from separating. And where would it turn too? The EU and hand over soverighty.
tondabone 3 years ago
That's not really true is it? What is the obsession with influence? The only influence that Scotland needs is over its own affairs and territorial jurisdiction. We have no desire to interfere with the affairs of other countries.
Your last point astounds me. It isn't about England "supporting" Scotland, but there is no reason why those countries cannot work with one another. We do not need to be in a Union to do that.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
... and it does matter when it comes to affairs abroad. So many things go on we don't even know about that help maintain the stability of this nation. From the biggest credit crunch since 1929's crash, our country is still standing wihout being declared bankrupt. Ask the Icelanders, Austrians, Hungarians and many others. Scotland would be powerless on its own, no wonder it turned to the British government to bail them out over a strike concerning the nations north sea oil.
tondabone 3 years ago
All countries are affected by the economic downturn - and the UK is not exactly in a strong or healthy position with its mountain of public and personal debt - it is "worst placed" according to the World Bank.
Scotland would not be powerless with its own resources any more than the UK is powerless in a global crisis. Country Size does not matter in a crisis like this - policy does.
As for your last point, the UK govt has never bailed Scotland out with respect to oil or anything else.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
Oh really, so Scotland has never benefited from receiving income from the UK as a whole? Scotland on it's own could of really created the worlds largest empire, not to mention insure Edinburgh maintains it is the 6th largest finacial economy. Oh hang on is not the Royal bank of Scotland now nationalised or at least bailed out by the British Government with HBOS? Go ahead and parade all you like, I know and deep down after using Scottish nationalism Alex salamond knows it after running to G.Brown
tondabone 3 years ago
On the first question, no I don't believe Scotland benefitted from receiving income from the UK as a whole, anymore than Switzerland has. Secondly Scotland wouldn't have wanted or needed to create a large empire had it been independent. Thirdly Dublin is 5th largest European financial centre and it isn't part of the UK. Fourthly if other countries - Norway, Sweden and Ireland - can recapitalise their banking system there is no reason why Scotland couldn't.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
Well lets put it to the test, however there won't be a come back should that day happen. I believe it will if your happy know, which is why warning after warning Scotland will still refuse to listen.
When it comes to represent itself on the security council which you seem to laugh at and leave for under 'Englands control', then Scotland will know.
tondabone 3 years ago
tondabone, I realise you think I'm some kind of filthy, traitorous separatist, but I'm a nice person really :-)
I just believe you are putting big imaginery boundaries up when thinking of independence. You don't seem to have a high opinion of Scottish people if you don't think they could have the foresight to run their own affairs and that is pretty insulting don't you think?
Well, I do. I think Scotland has.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
I never for one second think nore said that! I find that what makes Britain great is working together in the way it has done from the high times to the low ones, it has pulled through a stronger nation united. Seriously I dont think the low of you nore anyone because of their identity. I'm not all an extreme right minded guy. I just have pride for the nation, the Union Jack. Not because I'm a Unionist as you call it, but for the feeling I get inside when i see it anywhere in the world.
tondabone 3 years ago
I don't see why we need to share a Parliament to continue to work together, where it is in the interests of the countries to do so. We can work together with the USA and we share a language with them but we don't need to share a Parliament to do that
I understand the feelings you have regarding the Union and its principles. That is the way you feel and that is fair enough. I don't see things in that way and I wouldn't essentially call myself a Scottish nationalist because I support independence
globaltraveller 3 years ago
Those are fair points fine on other nations. But what has shaped Scotlands success these last 300 or so years? What has made England I'll admit the power as it is today including. Parliament is for all the countries in the union, which confus
tondabone 3 years ago
Parliament is for all the countries that shape this union and British identity. And the way I see it maybe different to your own. But it is a sensitive subject which if such a decision or when the decision happens, it could only be taken once and I dont think I could ever get to understand nore support it. The USA merged as one before the states regarded themselves as independent. They being the largest power have done so by maintaing the US. I suppose thats irony of our evolving constitution
tondabone 3 years ago
I can't understand why Parliament underpins the British identity? I don't think the Scottish Parliament underpins Scottish identity? As for the rest of what you say, I suppose that is fair enough and consistent with your own feelings on the issue.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
I'm glad we can speak on the subject with less conflict and personal digs at one another. I don't see my myself as a unionist just as you don't wish to see yourself as a scottish nationalist if thats correct. However it is all vital disregarding the down turns, that the union thats shaped this Island over the years remains intact. Parliament is for the MP'S of the whole nation, not just for a certain region. I could go on and on, but you have your views and I have mine, so I'll leave it here.
tondabone 3 years ago
Well, success is a moot point - I certainly don't think Scotland has been as successful as she could be - especially when compared to many of our European neighbours. Indeed it can be credibly argued that the decline of the British Empire had a far graver economic effect on Scotland than the rest of the UK.
The Union has shaped Scotland, no doubt, but can you really say it has ALL been as positive as some Unionists try to make out? I don't.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
By the way the name's Tony. Great speaking and best of luck with yourself. At least you show a great interest for your country. T.
tondabone 3 years ago
Absolutely likewise. It is nice to converse with a Unionist who doesn't hurl abuse about because they see a nationalist. Its also nice to see a Unionist be honest about how they feel - I take it you are not Scottish - because Unionists of your calibre (and TheBritishWatcher, too who is also one of Youtube's foremost and articulate Unionists) are distinctly lacking up here.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
im scottish and i agree that scotland is perfectly capable of running its own affairs.... but i still think that we will do slightly better in the uk than out of it..... i mean its not as if scotland has no say in the uk govt.... we have a scottish pm at the moment...... and many many great scottish mps who do make their voices heard
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
Many, many great Scottish MPs? I hardly think so. Most of them are serving their own interests on the London Westminister gravytrain.
Yes we have a Scottish PM and he is presiding over the worst peacetime destruction of the UK economy. It is so bad that some of the world's best financiers have declared the UK to be "finished" as a global force (not that it has really been for the last 50 years).
So how exactly are we doing better in the UK?
globaltraveller 3 years ago
and by saying serving their own interests u mean what exactly? i agree about gordon brown but my point was that scots do very well in shaping the policys in westminster...... i do not think that it is just an english dictatorship
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
Well, Scottish MPs have a rather limited workload. They vote on matters that don't concern their constituents like English Health and English Education. They get many perks and allowances. Labour MPs have the prospect of getting on the government payroll. In short, they are serving their own interests.
I do not agree it is a dictatorship either - English or otherwise. But the Scots do not do well in shaping policies.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
john smith? alistair darling? gordon brown? john reid? douglar alexander? you are seriously trying to tell me these men had no influence, in the scottish favour, in the govt or the labour party...... i could go on about many other scottish mps who have over the years created great differances... in or out of govt..... i do see some of the points u make such as a scots mp does not have a lot to do now...... well even i admit that thats a problem.
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
Nope I do not agree they had influence in the Scottish favour, unless you are accusing them of putting the Scottish favour at the VERY forefront of their dealings. You surely can't think that was the case?
Secondly most of the individuals you name have been active in the curreng government - perhaps the worst government to visited upon us in recent years.
In essence the effect they had on policies came from their own PERSONAL and ideological influence. Not from where they come from.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
take past mps john smith, donald dewer..... and all the other ones i mentioned had a lot to do with bringing about scottish devolution..... no influence..... common just admit that they did..... i suppose u r gonna tell me now that it was english mps who wanted devolution for scotland.....
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
Actually, that is a good example of them doing something to further their own narrow political interests.
Had the SNP not burst onto the political scene in 1967 and had the spectre of independence not threatened the seats of many Labour MPs, I doubt devolution would have got off the ground in the way it did. I mean, looked at the botched referendum in 1979.
Labour saw devolution as a vote winner and a way to consolidate their power base in Scotland for a very long time.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
u really dont see any of my points at all? common i am trying to to understand where u r coming from the least u can do if u want to argue is accept when i do have a point...... the tory party may b small in scotland but labour is not.... u cannot tar every one of them with unscottish views..... i have never met a scot who wasnt proud of his country
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
I do see the points you are making, but I don't agree with them. I just don't see any evidence for this supposed benefit for Scotland that's all.
If they really did put Scotland at the forefront of their objectives we wouldn't have the shocking social problems we currently have (amongst the worst in Europe), the badly performing economy, the educational standards in decline over their period in office and so on.
Why are the Labour voting areas of Scotland the poorest and most deprived?
globaltraveller 3 years ago
well that is a bigger question i feel.... i think that it has a lot to do with labour and the way in which they have dealt with problems in scotland.... but i dont actually think that any of the other partys were much better..... to me the problems in scotland run far deeper than who our politicians are..... but i do think it is getting better in some ways..... kids are better educated, housed, fed now than in the past..... but problems like health have got worse and seem to do so in poor areas
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
Yes those are all very fair points. I just can't help feeling that individual freedom and empowerment do come from the way you are governed. I think the way Scotland has been governed in the past only entenches the problems.
That's why Scotland needs to stand on its own two feet. We all sink or swim together like any other country. Do you think faced with that, the people of Scotland would allow themselves to sink?
She might have been a Unionist, but I'd bet Mrs Thatcher would secretly approve
globaltraveller 3 years ago
i agree with the sink or swim aspect.... when i was a teenager i had a bad time living on handouts from my parents..... i then moved out and eventually ended up with no money and no house to live in...... i showered at a swimming pool and i lived in my car for 2 months as i got enough money to get a flat....... it taught me the best lesson i ever learned..... and that was because at that time i had no where to get money from other than from my own efforts.... scots need to learn that lesson
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
also.... is it the sn who u support or just independance? whichever it is what differances would u like to see other than independance
thatcheritescot 3 years ago
I support independence more than the SNP - they are just a means to getting there. After independence I'd vote for the Tories. Not before.
I'm a great admirer of Margaret Thatcher. I think she did a lot of good - but I do think in some areas she did do a bit of lasting harm, but on the whole I'm favourable towards her.
But I want Scotland to take responsibility for ourselves. No more living on fixed budgets, or taking our lead from Westminister. We need to confront our own problems ourselves.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
How would you propose to fix the budget deficit Scotland would face if she became independent? The only way to solve UK problems is in the British Parliament, there is no Scottish problem its a British problem you must stop thinking that them and us, but more united only then can solve the problems of the day. There is only the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. United being the most important word.
Gaius51 2 years ago 3
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How does any country fix its budget deficit? EVERY country in the world runs a budget deficit for MOST of the time. The UK does, the US does, Germany, France, Japan and so on. Scotland is no different and would be no different on independence.
The Scottish Government will have the ability to design policies that only need to take account of Scotland's circumstances. They will be in charge of Scotland's resources and finances and they'll have to manage it.
It is called national responsibility.
globaltraveller 2 years ago
Back to your argument on the rentention of power away from countries in the UK, the united kingdom insures that those powers are not denuded or underminded by another institution whether it be in Brussels or elsewhere. Being British is about the different aspects of this Island and while yes it is a union that perhaps some don't want to support as their identity, it very much safeguards that identity under the British system more so than any other institution. Where would they be independantly?
tondabone 3 years ago
It doesn't matter whether the UK ensures these powers are denuded further or undermined by some European institution. The point was that the very nature of the UK is that it denuded powers from the components countries of the UK itself and dictatorally centralised them in the unitary state. In many ways the UK is much worse than the EU in this regard - after all, EU states have not lost their overall sovereignty or the identity - or their independence.
globaltraveller 3 years ago
god please send a margaret thatcher like personality to guide us the u.s we could use a leader like you you are the most important woman of the last 100 years with out a doubt
irontusks77 3 years ago
mrs thatcher has a gtr8 voice she was a true leader the best pm the uk has had :) and will ever have :)
GUSTILBITCH 3 years ago 2
Or to put it simply: Go to hell "sparxz 1000"!!!
misterpeaky 3 years ago
Despite some other rumors, the 20th century was shaped by the English people...
misterpeaky 3 years ago
GROSSE PUTE
nojentil 3 years ago
Wonderful words.
Reazzurro90 3 years ago
How I love her! Thanks from Poland!
dobryraper 3 years ago
Awesome lady. She has my admiration.
WOLFBRON 3 years ago 3
That makes too of us lol!
rubyrocksallthetime 3 years ago
Compare Thatcher to Putin...
coldatspot 3 years ago
Please see my comment on this good point. Putin is becoming what Mrs Thatcher could have achieved.
sparxz1000 3 years ago
A heroic speech by our great Prime Minister. Why have so many of our political leaders (and indeed those across Europe) allowed the Union to hold such dangerous and fundamentally undemocratic powers? Thatcher defended Britain's interests and sovereignty - it's a pity we haven't had more leaders that have done the same.
UnitedBritannia 3 years ago 6
@Electroma94
And I wonder who will be remembered even after both of you are dead?..
Oooh an essay?! :D Why not keep your opinions to that then? Surely it would be rather more constructive - you never know it may even get you an extra mark! A good historian would know not to let personal bias factor into their judgment.. And deal with FACTS to way up both sides of an argument!
KierThomp 1 week ago
@Electroma94 Why watch footage such as this if you dislike Mrs Thatcher so much?..
And what a totally inappropriate comment and lets just hope you kick the bucket before she does in that case!
KierThomp 2 weeks ago
@KierThomp bravo! answer because they find thatcher sexy really
JimmyThatcher 2 weeks ago
@JimmyThatcher No, she's an ugly old dog.
Electroma94 2 weeks ago
@KierThomp Lol unlikely! Bitch is on her last legs. And I watched various Thatcher videos as research for an essay comparing her with Cameron's Conservatives. :)
Electroma94 2 weeks ago
I am literally holding my breath until the day this wicked bitch dies.
Electroma94 3 weeks ago
@Electroma94 scumbag
JimmyThatcher 2 weeks ago
We still love you Lady Thatcher.
Regards,
America
rkettell 1 month ago
And how right she was, as always.
The last great PM this country had. Socialists are in the minority with thier vile opinions about her, as all polls show.
Kozzy06 1 month ago
Wish we had her in Brussels today ;(
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BritishAndProudNS 2 months ago
Immigration in the UK now at 250000 a year....
beastinblack 2 months ago
So much common sense from this woman. No wonder the left hate her.
beastinblack 2 months ago