How can you leave this video up even after realizing you were completely and utterly wrong about chuckzlord (the primary focus of this video)? Taking this video down might help you wipe off that egg on your face... this is a total embarrassment, dude. Seriously.
great work.... It was inspirational to see you investigate this and show HTWW up for the lengths he is prepared to go to in order to reinforce his lies. One would think it would be easier and less effort for HTWW to just tell the truth. I wonder what other lies and naughty activities he has got up to?? BTW some cunt has given your vid comments a negative rateing, but I will undo them.. Again great work
ConservativeDrone, AKA Lee DOREN wE WILL SEE...AS THE THUNDERFOOT VID stated, condescending language "Genius" Honestly lee get a fucking life. My question Lee is what have the lefties done to you to have scared yuou so badly that you need to start on them all the time,, Bring your layers on cnut..
I have to say, it was pretty big of you to admit your mistake; other than that slipup (and considering the overall paranoia that this scandal has caused, it's understandable) I'd say you're doing a fine job of blowing the socks off of Howtheworldworks. (pun intended)
I have two youtube accounts. After the tip you gave in this video I decided to investigate my other account to check for any sock offshoots of my name. Going up and down the numbers I found quite a few. All with the typical blank sock appearance, few videos watched, little or no activity, etc.
Not to be an asshole, I'm on your side, but try and take another look at the pictures. It would appear that CHUCKELZLORD has blue eyes and Al Canata has brown. I may be wrong, of course, but it does appear that their eyecolour differs :/
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countless hours, two ground zero dumshit vids and goose egg for confirmed HTWW sock accounts. for what. non basement dwellers might erupt from small d!ck syndrome at such a display of distilled dumshit. not our hero. Must More dumshit + harrass for my small d!ck says he. continue
Hi Kinsman. I'm glad to see you put a retraction up in the description, but I think that you should also add a banner in the video. Many people don't bother to read descriptions. I understand keeping the video up for the information it provides at the start, but I think a very clear intra-video warning about the missidentification is in order.
Perhaps someone who has a lot time of their hands can look up those redbeard accts to see if they were created around the same time frame. Now that would be suspicious.
And shouldn't this vid at least have an update added on the video itself indicating that the allegations again CHUCKLZLORD are false?
Having a # after your user name on a low traffic site like youtube just screams soc acct. The examples robertmike89 (a 20 yo guy) and robertmike38 (39 now, acct created 2008), both with default channel settings, demonstrated some brilliant sleuthing on your part.
Seriously, doesn't anyone think critically anymore? The acct robertmike38 has 4700 vids viewed. Why would a soc with that many views have no subs or favs? And people that commit view fraud don't use accts.
Why is this video still up? kinsman acknowledges it is false even in the description, yet it's still here to spread BS to anyone who doesn't read description boxes...
Additionally if you assign numbers to the letters in the alphabet, you will probably find sock accounts surrounding any account. If you disagree with someone, debate the idea, don't defame the person.
If you pause at 2:13, you see that this vid has been debunked. Also, even if it was httw's friend, is that a sock account? It seems that many of the posters in support of the video aren't interested in the facts, just bringing httw down because they don't like what he says. I'm sure if you run algorithms on my account name you would find socks as well. My account would probably even qualify as a sock since I only use it to support a few channels and to view 'adult' material, and I rarely comment
One from many series are subscribed to dilute the different names out and make it less obvious to those who don't do as much thinking. I'm sure that one of them is.
Wrong. I checked you profile before commenting here. Go check your channel and you'll see I left a comment there a while ago. You are a drone. You can deny it all you want, but you don't think for yourself. And, yes, you're probably an enviromarxist.
Sock accounts with my account name: 106, 99, 98, 95, 92, 91, 90, 89, 87, 86, 85, 84, 83, 81, 79, 78, 75, 73, 70, 69, 68, 67, 65, 64, 63, 58, 54, 53, 51, 50, 49, 45, 44, 42, and possibly more. They are all dormant, and have no subscriptions (one has one for HappySlip).
kinsman, thanks for proving that you have nothing better to do with your time. I can't believe i just sat through all five minutes and thirty-seven seconds of this shit. I hope you're not losing sleep over this. Man, i used to love TF's stuff but he's turned into a dick. LOOK at his favorites...he's become obsessed. This is getting ridiculous.
The question is: How would you find out who the third party "SOCK" account service is. Who owns it, who created it. How much does it cost per hundred to, I presume, to purchase these SOCK accounts.
The only thing I have to be embarrassed about is the fact that I share a country with a bunch of fascists, who want to ram ObamaCare down the throats of the American people.
Most of the population seem to want healthcare reform if the polls are to be believed. The respected New England Journal of Medicine did a survey that found the medical profession overwhelmingly support reform, with the majority also supporting the public option.
So government doing what the majority actually want, something that would improve the available healthcare quality and choice, is fascism?
You're quoting studies from the liberal media. There are other studies that paint a different picture. Real Journalism is dead in our country. Watch Fox News, it is the only media outlet with any journalistic integrity left.
Whats needed now is *science* A theory has been put forward.
third party sock account service.
We need to repeat the experiment with a different customer rather then HTWW + friends. To see if such a service exists and is in business. if its only HTWW then that puts smallest of doubt on the issue but its enough to keep it as theory rather then fact.
Well, Al almost certainly isn't 18, unless the CEI is really short on staff or he's a genius. I see one Al Canata listed in a CA high school has having graduated in 1998, which would make him 29-30, but that could be another guy.
Still lying about your age isn't a crime. The accusation then would be that he took over a sock account of Lee's to dispute the sock account accusation?
YT could solve this mystery in 5 minutes, if they wanted, in any event.
"Worst detective ever" is a bit inflated, don't you think? He's not even bad. Hell, he's more of a critical thinker than you, as I can already tell. The photos are a clear match, and that's not even what I am going to talk about - Humility is what you need. If you can't accept that HTWW, whom you are a fan of, is intellectually dishonest after having seen countless sock accounts, then what good is your opinion? You are refusing to question, and that's where you show your anti-critical tendencies
@xgunnBlaze. Well it isn't the same guy. So a bit of humility and a lot of simple observation on your part might go a long way to improving your critical thinking (ie. check the reply video by the falsely accused himself).
Actually, I had already seen his facebook. Think about how easy it would be for me to abandon my facebook, take a picture of someone else that is similar to their recent appearance, and leave it idle so they can use it as proof. In fact, one of the people on my facebook friends list changed their name and default a long time ago and now they use a new account. Their old one looks legit, but it's not.
And anyway, given the case that chucklzlord is actually a real person who happened to sub only two people and leave his account idle, the pictures were pretty damn close.
That's a good point for both: This is the internet. Everything can be misleading. An example of this is the user daxflame here on youtube. A good amount of people think that his stories are all fake.
Actually, at first, I thought that HTWW might have made his account solely to get money from youtube's partner program. He deleted his first video about it.
That being said, Kinsman did jump to a conclusion without contacting him.
This guy came to the conclusion that two people were the same person even though they look NOTHING alike. You're absolutely lying to yourself if you think they look anything alike. He had zero evidence these people were "the same person" except a picture which he simply said "Yep, they're the same person!" with. That's not being a detective, that's being a moron.
His work on the sock accounts thing was fine, but this is atrociously wrong.
Also, you're showing your anti-critical tendancies by assuming I won't accept that HTWW is being dishonest. I don't know if he is or not...There are signs pointing to socks being used, but even if there are, we don't know if he's the one doing it. If he is doing it, I'll happily unsub and tell him he's a retard.
My issue is that Chucklzlord and this CEI guy are being accused of shit when they're totally innocent.
Have you seen HTWW's first videos? (The ones that he deleted) He made it seem as if he was on youtube just for the partner program. Anyway, if he wasn't the one doing it, don't you think that he would have pointed them out as someone else's sock puppets?
I think that you are giving him a little bit too much credit, even though his word wouldn't mean much in this case.
Anyway, why did you take down your videos that you made?
Well you were proven wrong and honestly i find it creepy the amount of digging into lee's personal life you did, even going through his facebook friends. Its an advert for the negatives of putting our lifes on the internet. Your a creep. Get a life.
people argue that al canata may not be chucklzlord well if that s the case why did al canata pull the pictures from his facebook account? Lee Doren and al canata just are trying to make a cover up and the best thing is lee's latest sock account coughlansexsexsex i mean look at it it couldn't be more obvious 1 htww got mocked by coughlan 2 the sock is a fan of htww 3 the sock trolls people who call htww out
1. enough attention has already been brought to you
2. i already uploaded 3 videos about you so there is no need for a third
3. your lack of logic is hilairous.
now wouldn't it make far more sense that if you really would like to fool people to make your subbs visible and subscribe to htww and crowder and that scum?
you fail on the whole line
all you are trying to do is to draw peoples attention from the actuall issue
1.) You assume I'm Lee, which I'm not, so I have not yet received the attention I deserve.
2.) You said: "i already uploaded 3 videos about you so there is no need for a third." Can you not count? If you uploaded three, that would mean the next video would be the fourth. Learn to count.
3.) No, I can't make my subs visible, since I also sub to other atheists, like Antybu86, Keippernicus, Nykytyne2, FactvsReligion, etc...etc..
4.) I am BEGGING you to make a video about me. Please do it.
oh my god, i made a mistake. is that your argument? LOL! you pathetic looser
about 3 then unsubscribe for the moment from them and when you're done with "fooling people" (actually you are just making yourself look like a fool) you can subscribe again
and just for the reccord, you could be a htww fanboy and still like factvsreligion
about 4
why aren't you making one in which you express your htww love just so you can "fool" people
You got me, man. I am indeed a sock account. I am Lee Doren. I am currently operating 400 sock accounts from 100 computers that each have 4 browsers open on them. That is how I keep making it look like I keep all the accounts active.
Oh, and by the way, it is totally NOT narcissistic and illogical of you to think that Lee (me) would spend all this time talking to just you, to convince just you, that I am not a sock account. You are moving up to number 2 on my super genius list.
coughlansexsexsex is another youtube moron who doesn't understand the first thing about sock accounts. The only sock he has is the one hiding his 2 inch pecker.
It's NOT supposed to make sense you moron. That's why I add people, like you, to my super genius list, when they can't figure out that I am just a troll.
Okay, I know a way to settle this. You're getting boring, so I will show you my subscription list. However, I just noticed that Coughlan is no longer there, because he blocked me. So, even though I love his videos, and my username is a tribute to him, he didn't approve of my trolling his subs. Do you want to see my subscription list? You'll know that I didn't add anything new because my recent activity is showing, so I wouldn't be able to cover it up.
Yeah, good call. The CEI guy totally looks like he has "downs" syndrome. LMAO
Seriously, what the fuck is going on? It's as if the Atheist community has been infiltrated by 911 twoofers who are trying to make us all look stupid by coming up with lame conspiracy theories.
It's a different guy. Chucklzlord is not a sock, nor is he that other guy. He's just some innocent kid. He explains this in his attached video.
Regardless of how obnoxious that low-life HTWW is, and how much he may have cheated to boost subscriptions, this video should be amended and/or deleted.
Good job again and thanks for the mention in the vid.
Tried to post a comment to your channel about more accounts I found in the format socXXX but it was removed by some filter I think.
There are at pastebin file name m154c1721.
There is about 450 in total I found, just looking at the sequences redbeardXXXX and socXXX. Most are empty and very few are subscribed to anyone. They also appear to be filled with random personal information.
The reason that Chucklezord replied is because of me, I watched screeches vids and sent 3 of the accounts he posted messages. 2 out of the three replied and one was chucklezord. He did not reply directly reply back to me but commented on screeches 3rd vid like 20 min after I messaged him. He then posted the vid up shortly after I think screech can back me up with me.
At first i was all like "This is just a smear attempt on howtheworldworks of course many account will have some sock accounts" Now im like "THAT BITCH BE STEALING MONEY FROM MY INTERWEBS AND LIEIN ABOUT IT!!!!" Im sick so I apologies how poor this comment sounds.
Not really. The person being referenced (the CEI guy) is clearly the same person in both shots. The chucklez guy they compare him to has a slight resemblance, but nothing close to undeniable.
After the 2nd pic I was convinced he'd say "see? They aren't the same person."
this is getting w-e-i-r-d.... fast. i'm really curious as to how this whole thing will end up. i was trying to give HTWW the benefit of the doubt even though i'm not a fan of him, but the evidence IS stacking against him.
They don´t look very alike to me. Delete the stuff about Chucklzlord from this video I´d say and reupoload it.
rokkvi1 1 year ago
Excellent sluth work!, Please keep exposing the parasites at CEI, Heartland, etc.
I've long suspected that the conspiracy nuts were onto something, they just had the actors back to front.
Tapecutter59 2 years ago
if he is so busted why has youtube not taken any action? If people are so sure why has the tube not done any investigation?
jordler 2 years ago
Jordler: "if he is so busted why has youtube not taken any action?"
They don't care, there is no law against paid liars and popogandists.
Tapecutter59 2 years ago
How can you leave this video up even after realizing you were completely and utterly wrong about chuckzlord (the primary focus of this video)? Taking this video down might help you wipe off that egg on your face... this is a total embarrassment, dude. Seriously.
vickmackey24 2 years ago
I agree, you should remove the video. Re-upload it minus the whole chuckles spiel.
jamminjago 2 years ago
great work.... It was inspirational to see you investigate this and show HTWW up for the lengths he is prepared to go to in order to reinforce his lies. One would think it would be easier and less effort for HTWW to just tell the truth. I wonder what other lies and naughty activities he has got up to?? BTW some cunt has given your vid comments a negative rateing, but I will undo them.. Again great work
Drwatson1977 2 years ago
HTWW is a douchebag liar that should be banned from youtube.
wwickeddogg 2 years ago 5
Fuck, that was awesome. Well done.
no332 2 years ago
he is so busted
AlCanata01 2 years ago
pwned in the face!! (by his own face?)
tehKap0w 2 years ago
Wow. This video is pure win.
Nashtak 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I am sad... my boyfriend dumped me for another girl can anyone cheer me up?
LaurelCowgal 2 years ago
Nice job genius. You'll be hearing from Lee's lawyers soon...
ConservativeDrone 2 years ago
And we are scared now. Soooo scared. Eeeek.
jdbadboy 2 years ago
You don't have to be unless you're slandering HTWW.. Now run along little Marxist.
ConservativeDrone 2 years ago
Not going anywhere big Fascist.
jdbadboy 2 years ago
ConservativeDrone, is HTWW your family pimp??? Why you sticking up for him..
Drwatson1977 2 years ago
Said the sock
I3ipolar 2 years ago
ConservativeDrone, AKA Lee DOREN wE WILL SEE...AS THE THUNDERFOOT VID stated, condescending language "Genius" Honestly lee get a fucking life. My question Lee is what have the lefties done to you to have scared yuou so badly that you need to start on them all the time,, Bring your layers on cnut..
Drwatson1977 2 years ago
Also check Sok1 - Sok1124
luc59457 2 years ago
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hyperseauton 2 years ago
sok1-1124 is strange also
luc59457 2 years ago
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hyperseauton 2 years ago
I have to say, it was pretty big of you to admit your mistake; other than that slipup (and considering the overall paranoia that this scandal has caused, it's understandable) I'd say you're doing a fine job of blowing the socks off of Howtheworldworks. (pun intended)
thelastholdout 2 years ago
I have two youtube accounts. After the tip you gave in this video I decided to investigate my other account to check for any sock offshoots of my name. Going up and down the numbers I found quite a few. All with the typical blank sock appearance, few videos watched, little or no activity, etc.
xSWITCHBLADEx3 2 years ago
I LUV YOU ALL!
Mooja12 2 years ago
you love sucking lee's balls -- oh, sorry I mean your own balls sick fuck
liberosveritas 2 years ago
Not to be an asshole, I'm on your side, but try and take another look at the pictures. It would appear that CHUCKELZLORD has blue eyes and Al Canata has brown. I may be wrong, of course, but it does appear that their eyecolour differs :/
GormTheElder 2 years ago
So when are you removing this video since it is probably the biggest piece of fail to ever enter the arena of this discussion?
Just curious, since you're currently still allowing two people who are innocent to be defamed.
HeadoftheHydra 2 years ago
wow, you really did a hell of a research job there. Also, it's pretty funny how sock accounts are just popping up making comments here and there XD
dapanzy 2 years ago
Ha ha ha ha, you just pwned HTWW
vaju79 2 years ago
I like how the suspected sock puppets are now making comments here. Say, I have a question for any suspected sock: so, why did you choose that name?
Dramphooey 2 years ago
FUCKING PWND
alexanderscottduff 2 years ago
WHERE IS THE YTWATCHDOG?!! He should make an ownage video about HTWW
PoopyPaul 2 years ago 2
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countless hours, two ground zero dumshit vids and goose egg for confirmed HTWW sock accounts. for what. non basement dwellers might erupt from small d!ck syndrome at such a display of distilled dumshit. not our hero. Must More dumshit + harrass for my small d!ck says he. continue
Mooja12 2 years ago
Take an english class before you ever write anything anyplace ever again, please.
robfathah 2 years ago
His age is listed again. Still as 22 though....weird
bobble12221 2 years ago
Hi Kinsman. I'm glad to see you put a retraction up in the description, but I think that you should also add a banner in the video. Many people don't bother to read descriptions. I understand keeping the video up for the information it provides at the start, but I think a very clear intra-video warning about the missidentification is in order.
LynxChan 2 years ago
Perhaps someone who has a lot time of their hands can look up those redbeard accts to see if they were created around the same time frame. Now that would be suspicious.
And shouldn't this vid at least have an update added on the video itself indicating that the allegations again CHUCKLZLORD are false?
jendan100 2 years ago
Having a # after your user name on a low traffic site like youtube just screams soc acct. The examples robertmike89 (a 20 yo guy) and robertmike38 (39 now, acct created 2008), both with default channel settings, demonstrated some brilliant sleuthing on your part.
Seriously, doesn't anyone think critically anymore? The acct robertmike38 has 4700 vids viewed. Why would a soc with that many views have no subs or favs? And people that commit view fraud don't use accts.
jendan100 2 years ago
Well, still the other accounts are very suspicious. The soc ones are bustling with activities after 2 years of dormancy? WTF ?
djbanizza 2 years ago
Why is this video still up? kinsman acknowledges it is false even in the description, yet it's still here to spread BS to anyone who doesn't read description boxes...
Remove the video, me thinks.
HeadoftheHydra 2 years ago
Wow, you burned his ass good.
poorkinghaggard 2 years ago
Additionally if you assign numbers to the letters in the alphabet, you will probably find sock accounts surrounding any account. If you disagree with someone, debate the idea, don't defame the person.
jf2008jf 2 years ago
If you pause at 2:13, you see that this vid has been debunked. Also, even if it was httw's friend, is that a sock account? It seems that many of the posters in support of the video aren't interested in the facts, just bringing httw down because they don't like what he says. I'm sure if you run algorithms on my account name you would find socks as well. My account would probably even qualify as a sock since I only use it to support a few channels and to view 'adult' material, and I rarely comment
jf2008jf 2 years ago
Did you watch the first video? Probably not.
One from many series are subscribed to dilute the different names out and make it less obvious to those who don't do as much thinking. I'm sure that one of them is.
VampireSaviorX 2 years ago
WOW, he's fucking owned now!
sputnikowns 2 years ago
Stop being a drone, you enviromarxist.
soc991 2 years ago
Yep, he's doing exactly what "drones" do: think about it, express curiosity, be skeptical, investigate.
You are a hypocrite, because you are a sock.
VampireSaviorX 2 years ago
Just as I suspected. VampireSavior is a drone, too.
soc991 2 years ago
"Just as I suspected?" You haven't even seen my profile before Hahaha!
"enviromarxist"... who have I heard that from before? HTWW.
Stop making a donkey out of yourself.
VampireSaviorX 2 years ago 2
Wrong. I checked you profile before commenting here. Go check your channel and you'll see I left a comment there a while ago. You are a drone. You can deny it all you want, but you don't think for yourself. And, yes, you're probably an enviromarxist.
soc991 2 years ago
What the fuck is an enviromarxist? Stop vomiting that drivel.
Yes I think for myself; simply denying what I'm saying is not a valid argument. You're not a child anymore; cut it out.
VampireSaviorX 2 years ago 4
Sweet holy hell! Good work batman.
9thgate 2 years ago
holy shit, he got owned
fakeham 2 years ago
ok, I watched the video response and now I'm just back to suspicious.
fakeham 2 years ago
Sock accounts with my account name: 106, 99, 98, 95, 92, 91, 90, 89, 87, 86, 85, 84, 83, 81, 79, 78, 75, 73, 70, 69, 68, 67, 65, 64, 63, 58, 54, 53, 51, 50, 49, 45, 44, 42, and possibly more. They are all dormant, and have no subscriptions (one has one for HappySlip).
Konoha107 2 years ago 2
The video response by Chuckles settles this particular issue.
SeenAndNotSeen 2 years ago
kinsman, thanks for proving that you have nothing better to do with your time. I can't believe i just sat through all five minutes and thirty-seven seconds of this shit. I hope you're not losing sleep over this. Man, i used to love TF's stuff but he's turned into a dick. LOOK at his favorites...he's become obsessed. This is getting ridiculous.
rjs87 2 years ago
agreed
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
I disagree.
sputnikowns 2 years ago
What about his eyes? Ones brown ones blue, i hate how the world works but i also support the truth.
dwoclan 2 years ago
great job man!
TrollN3m3s1s 2 years ago
Brilliant detective work. I curse the fact that I'm terrible at writing modern-set fiction, else this would be some good inspiration. :P
DominicBuchholz 2 years ago
The question is: How would you find out who the third party "SOCK" account service is. Who owns it, who created it. How much does it cost per hundred to, I presume, to purchase these SOCK accounts.
apeek7 2 years ago
There is a lesson here. Screenshots. Use them.
themadhair 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Stop being a drone, you leftist, Tf00t fanboy.
soc991 2 years ago
Might want to actually check people out before commenting. Might save you some embarrassment.
themadhair 2 years ago
The only thing I have to be embarrassed about is the fact that I share a country with a bunch of fascists, who want to ram ObamaCare down the throats of the American people.
soc991 2 years ago
Most of the population seem to want healthcare reform if the polls are to be believed. The respected New England Journal of Medicine did a survey that found the medical profession overwhelmingly support reform, with the majority also supporting the public option.
So government doing what the majority actually want, something that would improve the available healthcare quality and choice, is fascism?
You're a bit of a moron aren't you?
themadhair 2 years ago 2
You're quoting studies from the liberal media. There are other studies that paint a different picture. Real Journalism is dead in our country. Watch Fox News, it is the only media outlet with any journalistic integrity left.
soc991 2 years ago
The New England Journal of Medicine is the liberal media????
Wow. You really are a moron.
themadhair 2 years ago 3
To reiterate:
The New England Journal of Medicine is the liberal media????
Could you get a more reputable source?
themadhair 2 years ago
You just committed intellectual suicide.
robfathah 2 years ago
Powned to death. These guys are zombies that don't admit that they died.
MrBrainmold 2 years ago
Wow, I tip my hat to you good sir. You have some pretty awesome investigation skills.
You have a new subscriber.
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago 4
Uhm. No. It is obviously not the same guy.
kubiczech25 2 years ago 2
enough already you idiot. you are just trying to tear down others. go die.
acerusso 2 years ago
Whats needed now is *science* A theory has been put forward.
third party sock account service.
We need to repeat the experiment with a different customer rather then HTWW + friends. To see if such a service exists and is in business. if its only HTWW then that puts smallest of doubt on the issue but its enough to keep it as theory rather then fact.
connla 2 years ago
The guy's name is James Mahaney, he's not a sock account, and he's not associated with HTWW in anyway. Pls watch his video response people.
Still, HTWW is a retarded fool who need to be exposed for what he really is.
TheInvaderBN 2 years ago 2
Well, Al almost certainly isn't 18, unless the CEI is really short on staff or he's a genius. I see one Al Canata listed in a CA high school has having graduated in 1998, which would make him 29-30, but that could be another guy.
Still lying about your age isn't a crime. The accusation then would be that he took over a sock account of Lee's to dispute the sock account accusation?
YT could solve this mystery in 5 minutes, if they wanted, in any event.
LynxChan 2 years ago
htww is an epic fail.
legalizemarijuananos 2 years ago 2
No longer is Sherlock the worlds greatest detective,
The Kind is dead, long live KinsmanThoughts
tielec01 2 years ago
Except this video is wrong and they're not the same guy.
This guy is the worst detective ever. The two guys visibly look nothing alike.
HeadoftheHydra 2 years ago
"Worst detective ever" is a bit inflated, don't you think? He's not even bad. Hell, he's more of a critical thinker than you, as I can already tell. The photos are a clear match, and that's not even what I am going to talk about - Humility is what you need. If you can't accept that HTWW, whom you are a fan of, is intellectually dishonest after having seen countless sock accounts, then what good is your opinion? You are refusing to question, and that's where you show your anti-critical tendencies
xgunnBlaze 2 years ago
@xgunnBlaze. Well it isn't the same guy. So a bit of humility and a lot of simple observation on your part might go a long way to improving your critical thinking (ie. check the reply video by the falsely accused himself).
MrCFruitfly 2 years ago
Actually, I had already seen his facebook. Think about how easy it would be for me to abandon my facebook, take a picture of someone else that is similar to their recent appearance, and leave it idle so they can use it as proof. In fact, one of the people on my facebook friends list changed their name and default a long time ago and now they use a new account. Their old one looks legit, but it's not.
Like I said, skepticism is important.
xgunnBlaze 2 years ago
And anyway, given the case that chucklzlord is actually a real person who happened to sub only two people and leave his account idle, the pictures were pretty damn close.
xgunnBlaze 2 years ago
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MrCFruitfly 2 years ago
That's a good point for both: This is the internet. Everything can be misleading. An example of this is the user daxflame here on youtube. A good amount of people think that his stories are all fake.
Actually, at first, I thought that HTWW might have made his account solely to get money from youtube's partner program. He deleted his first video about it.
That being said, Kinsman did jump to a conclusion without contacting him.
xgunnBlaze 2 years ago
No.
This guy came to the conclusion that two people were the same person even though they look NOTHING alike. You're absolutely lying to yourself if you think they look anything alike. He had zero evidence these people were "the same person" except a picture which he simply said "Yep, they're the same person!" with. That's not being a detective, that's being a moron.
His work on the sock accounts thing was fine, but this is atrociously wrong.
A clear match? What a joke, dude.
HeadoftheHydra 2 years ago
Also, you're showing your anti-critical tendancies by assuming I won't accept that HTWW is being dishonest. I don't know if he is or not...There are signs pointing to socks being used, but even if there are, we don't know if he's the one doing it. If he is doing it, I'll happily unsub and tell him he's a retard.
My issue is that Chucklzlord and this CEI guy are being accused of shit when they're totally innocent.
HeadoftheHydra 2 years ago
Have you seen HTWW's first videos? (The ones that he deleted) He made it seem as if he was on youtube just for the partner program. Anyway, if he wasn't the one doing it, don't you think that he would have pointed them out as someone else's sock puppets?
I think that you are giving him a little bit too much credit, even though his word wouldn't mean much in this case.
Anyway, why did you take down your videos that you made?
xgunnBlaze 2 years ago
They aren't relevant since VFX is gone anyways.
HeadoftheHydra 2 years ago
Stop being a drone.
soc991 2 years ago
Classic.
tricklessmagic 2 years ago
Way to go all 'Columbo' on HTWW! Kudos!
tikielvis 2 years ago
Well you were proven wrong and honestly i find it creepy the amount of digging into lee's personal life you did, even going through his facebook friends. Its an advert for the negatives of putting our lifes on the internet. Your a creep. Get a life.
Jkl9559 2 years ago
This doesn't take any time at all to find, not creepy at all. Welcome to the panopticon.
Democracy is not a spectator sport!
turbosamvara 2 years ago
your mic makes you sound a bit like that guy from the saw horror series when hes giving instructions to the doomed.
fknrdcls 2 years ago
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
redFISTofEUROPE
HAHAHA
You fucking moron.
I am not a sock account. Look at my profile you fucking tool.
1.) I am subbed to Coughlan
2.) I am not subbed to HTWW
3.) HTWW is number 1 on my super geniuses list, which is SARCASTIC. He is number 1 on my RETARD list.
4.) I troll super geniuses, not just people who call out HTWW. In fact, HTWW was the first person I trolled.
5.) I am motivated to troll when I see STUPIDITY. It doesn't matter to me who is being stupid.
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
when i checked last time you still where subscribed to HTWW
but you have dissabled that, haven't you?
boy you just have fucked up so bad
somebody will report thsi sock pupett shit and then YT will get ridd of you
and just for the record
when you are subbed to coughlan why aren't your subscriptions visible?
you don't even have to bother to change your subbs and make them appear
i took screenshots
sucker!
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
redFISTofEUROPE
1.) I NEVER subscribed to HTWW
2.) PLEASE make a video about me, so that I can feature it on my channel.
3.) Once you've made the video about me, let me know.
4.) My subscriptions aren't visible because I am trying to fool super geniuses like you into think I am a sock account.
5.) You took screenshots? Awesome. Please use ALL of them in the video you make about me.
6.) AGAIN, I cannot emphasize enough how much I'd enjoy you making a video about me. PLEASE do it.
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
1. enough attention has already been brought to you
2. i already uploaded 3 videos about you so there is no need for a third
3. your lack of logic is hilairous.
now wouldn't it make far more sense that if you really would like to fool people to make your subbs visible and subscribe to htww and crowder and that scum?
you fail on the whole line
all you are trying to do is to draw peoples attention from the actuall issue
and you fail miserably
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
1.) You assume I'm Lee, which I'm not, so I have not yet received the attention I deserve.
2.) You said: "i already uploaded 3 videos about you so there is no need for a third." Can you not count? If you uploaded three, that would mean the next video would be the fourth. Learn to count.
3.) No, I can't make my subs visible, since I also sub to other atheists, like Antybu86, Keippernicus, Nykytyne2, FactvsReligion, etc...etc..
4.) I am BEGGING you to make a video about me. Please do it.
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
about 2
oh my god, i made a mistake. is that your argument? LOL! you pathetic looser
about 3 then unsubscribe for the moment from them and when you're done with "fooling people" (actually you are just making yourself look like a fool) you can subscribe again
and just for the reccord, you could be a htww fanboy and still like factvsreligion
about 4
why aren't you making one in which you express your htww love just so you can "fool" people
and something else
if you try to....
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
re: 2) No, that is not my argument. I was just pissing on you, that's what trolls do.
3.) Why should I unsubscribe from those channels? I want to know when their new videos are out, especially Nyk's because I like his 911 videos.
4.) I don't make videos AT ALL. Period. Not my thing.
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
not just pittifull excuses
but if you are a troll then why would you even get defensive and angry if i would accuse you of being htww?
Lee you made yourself look like a complete fool
nobody takes you seriously any more (if someone ever has)
but i have to give you some credit
at first you try to disproove my claims that you are in fact lee with reason and then you go on to say that you are just trolling
i guess when you are about to loose the argument its better to pretend, right?
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
You got me, man. I am indeed a sock account. I am Lee Doren. I am currently operating 400 sock accounts from 100 computers that each have 4 browsers open on them. That is how I keep making it look like I keep all the accounts active.
Oh, and by the way, it is totally NOT narcissistic and illogical of you to think that Lee (me) would spend all this time talking to just you, to convince just you, that I am not a sock account. You are moving up to number 2 on my super genius list.
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
so you start with sarcasm, in the middle you try to touch reason and then you go back to trolling.
and that in one comment.
wow. i underestimatet your idiocy.
but anyway.
you got your ass handed to you
and about your list
i couldn't care less
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
Okay, just to recap, so there is NO confusion, you think that I am Lee, right?
You think that Lee Doren = CoughlanSexSexSex, right?
I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying. Again, you think that I am Lee?
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
coughlansexsexsex is another youtube moron who doesn't understand the first thing about sock accounts. The only sock he has is the one hiding his 2 inch pecker.
avoozl07 2 years ago
..."fool" people why are you leaving comments in which you discredit htww and his/your critics aswell?
it doesn't make much sense doesn't it?
but i don't wonder
you where full of shit, you are full of shit and you will ever be full of shit
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago
It's NOT supposed to make sense you moron. That's why I add people, like you, to my super genius list, when they can't figure out that I am just a troll.
HAHAHAHAHA
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
Okay, I know a way to settle this. You're getting boring, so I will show you my subscription list. However, I just noticed that Coughlan is no longer there, because he blocked me. So, even though I love his videos, and my username is a tribute to him, he didn't approve of my trolling his subs. Do you want to see my subscription list? You'll know that I didn't add anything new because my recent activity is showing, so I wouldn't be able to cover it up.
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
good job!! knowing is only half the battle.
outofnowheres 2 years ago
That's fucking gold!
(Weeds fans: LEGENDARY...)
fknrdcls 2 years ago
Well fucking played sir, well fucking played.
DeadPlered 2 years ago
Nice work man.
MINGO4445 2 years ago
lol
holy shit, nice find!
TheSkaKid0 2 years ago
I'm just saying this but some times people lie about their age so the can view the mature stuff on youtube.
Jesse2K12 2 years ago
wow...impressive...do u work as a reseracher?
justcallmesoso 2 years ago
Well done, detective. Well done.
ytmhcubed 2 years ago
Umm, Chucklzlord looks nothing like that guy. Maybe around the same weight, but that's it.
The one guy looks like he has downs. Chucklzlord looks pretty normal, lol.
I thought the other video was compelling,but this one is pretty off base IMO.
HeadoftheHydra 2 years ago
Yeah, good call. The CEI guy totally looks like he has "downs" syndrome. LMAO
Seriously, what the fuck is going on? It's as if the Atheist community has been infiltrated by 911 twoofers who are trying to make us all look stupid by coming up with lame conspiracy theories.
CoughlanSexSexSex 2 years ago
It's a different guy. Chucklzlord is not a sock, nor is he that other guy. He's just some innocent kid. He explains this in his attached video.
Regardless of how obnoxious that low-life HTWW is, and how much he may have cheated to boost subscriptions, this video should be amended and/or deleted.
MrCFruitfly 2 years ago
Indeed, Chucklzlord is a different person.
Al Canata has a slightly wider shaped and less defined cheek bone. Also, his lips are slightly bigger and he has different eyes....
mikeljm 2 years ago
Take a look at Mr. Canata's head shot on his CEI profile (Google: Canata CEI)
Compared to CL's facebook picture, the resemblance on the vids fades quickly. CL is much better looking ;-)
Whatever the merits of the sock accusations against GoebbelsLite, CL is an innocent bystander in all this.
ThePilum 2 years ago
damn! These are only your first vids, you've set the bar high for yourself. lol
Great job.
0penuriis 2 years ago
Good job again and thanks for the mention in the vid.
Tried to post a comment to your channel about more accounts I found in the format socXXX but it was removed by some filter I think.
There are at pastebin file name m154c1721.
There is about 450 in total I found, just looking at the sequences redbeardXXXX and socXXX. Most are empty and very few are subscribed to anyone. They also appear to be filled with random personal information.
amckinley03 2 years ago
The reason that Chucklezord replied is because of me, I watched screeches vids and sent 3 of the accounts he posted messages. 2 out of the three replied and one was chucklezord. He did not reply directly reply back to me but commented on screeches 3rd vid like 20 min after I messaged him. He then posted the vid up shortly after I think screech can back me up with me.
john38235133 2 years ago
I smell a big smackdown heading HTWW's way in the near future.
Posterboy for Libertarian Stupidity tried that favourite right wing tactic of astroturfing, but people are on to him now|!
Shavarnarak 2 years ago
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vertigate 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
this video is a joke right?
those 2 guys look nothing alike.
perhaps chuck lied about his age on his youtube account when he signed up so he can view mature videos.
amagilly 2 years ago
Dude, that was some skills right there.
PVTSolis 2 years ago
OWNED!
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago 2
if it isnt him, its some coincidence that he just happens to be the IMAGE of him....
dekboi 2 years ago 4
You scare me, you know that?
FullMentalPanic 2 years ago
The ending=BUSTED!!
Hjernespreng 2 years ago
DAYUM! BUSTED!
plopo404 2 years ago
What makes this so awsome is that HTWW thinks that he's smarter than everyone else. haha I love it!
angelxtreme6 2 years ago 2
OH SHIT!!!!!
damn doran you got beat by journalism and HARD!!!
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
There definitely is enough evidence pointing to HTWW has sock accounts on his subscribers list regardless of who did it for him.
The mystery I'm interested in knowing is just how many of HTWW subscribers are not sock accounts.
I wouldn't be shocked at this point if it turns out only a small handful were.
TekkaSage 2 years ago
they don't look the same to me
wafflethug 2 years ago
Hm, even if CHUCKLZLORD is not Al Canata, you still have enough evidence to prove that sock accounts exist and the possibility that HTWW uses them.
YoinkinatorX 2 years ago
Even if hes not Al canata KinsmanThoughts' other points are still pretty damming, even CHUCKLZLORD admitted as much.
jin3211 2 years ago 3
I very much agree, problem is chucklzord issue will overshadow the first half and be used as deflection on the entire issue.
connla 2 years ago
He has a response up just so you know, has a facebook profile etc to say he's not al cantana.
connla 2 years ago
Yeah - I have to admit the evidence seems to point that they are two different people.
naughtypagan72 2 years ago
the facebook link in that response video is dead -- very telling
liberosveritas 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hey Lee ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› BUSTED!!
1140Cecile 2 years ago 2
At first i was all like "This is just a smear attempt on howtheworldworks of course many account will have some sock accounts" Now im like "THAT BITCH BE STEALING MONEY FROM MY INTERWEBS AND LIEIN ABOUT IT!!!!" Im sick so I apologies how poor this comment sounds.
dwoclan 2 years ago 3
Damn - you would make Sherlock Holmes proud :p
naughtypagan72 2 years ago 3
Holy shit! I have to hand it to you KT! You are one hell of an investigator! 5 star again!
Zlibservacratican 2 years ago 2
this is getting very interesting...
SeanWulf 2 years ago 2
CEI.... not surprised.
g12er 2 years ago 4
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knappydanny 2 years ago
i bow b4 the master
plz accept me as your padawan
OrionSyndicate910 2 years ago
Great researching skills. I imagine this isn't going to end well for HTWW.
TekkaSage 2 years ago
Fantastic work, Kinsman!
Dramphooey 2 years ago
WOW!
I was going to do a video and investgate myself, but even I wouldn't have thought of this.
Ty for making this.
Krensharpaw 2 years ago
I so saw you going to facebook the second I saw chuckles, lol.
And kudos to your sleuthing skills.
LogicWins1 2 years ago
how much time do you have? I never would have figured this out in a million years
NotJames1 2 years ago
You ever consider being an investigative reporter?
ZergInfestedChrist 2 years ago
I don't think those two guys look anything like each other. I have nothing invested in this debate, I'm just saying.
andid 2 years ago
It'd easy to be skeptical for the first picture but the second is pretty damn undeniable.
Xzazazazia 2 years ago
Not really. The person being referenced (the CEI guy) is clearly the same person in both shots. The chucklez guy they compare him to has a slight resemblance, but nothing close to undeniable.
After the 2nd pic I was convinced he'd say "see? They aren't the same person."
andid 2 years ago
i am a real person and subscriber. no one paid for me
HTWWSock333 2 years ago
lol, that account is closed
liberosveritas 2 years ago
Wow, CEI buddy posing as Youtuber to help out his Lee Doren of CEI.
Props to all you guys to kick this arrogant piece of shit's ass.
bigboss025 2 years ago 4
this is getting w-e-i-r-d.... fast. i'm really curious as to how this whole thing will end up. i was trying to give HTWW the benefit of the doubt even though i'm not a fan of him, but the evidence IS stacking against him.
valvatica 2 years ago 6
Now THIS is true detective work.
TheWindClaw 2 years ago
chuckle....o what a tangled web we weave lee!
Thunderf00t 2 years ago 11
O.O Nice!
I looked it up on FB myself, it's true!
Tf00t needs to feature this, I'm sure cristoballs will understand :) In fact, cristoballs is the one who started this theory in the first place!
There's almost no doubt about it now! Lee has sock accounts!
YoinkinatorX 2 years ago
Such dishonesty... is very impressive and disgusting. I am amazed.
IBYea 2 years ago
Holy shit! Figured CHUCKZLORD was some CEI buddy, didn't think it'd get revealed so quick.
robertmike57 2 years ago