First question: If the mulititude of hideous, barbaric acts remain common occurences in many Muslim (and non Muslim) countries today, and are approved by Muslim authorities, then what insane law code are these courts using?
Question 2: If Sharia courts and Muslim leaders themselves claim to be carrying out Sharia law when these atrocities take place, who are you to dispute their claim? They are proud of their barbarism!
Muhammad was a liar, he said that man was only allowed to have 4 wives.. He had 4 then fell in love with his son's wife and persuaded her to Marry him then the public got angry as he said only 4 wife's so he says Allah contacted him and said he is allowed to have a fifth wife? Pretty convenient for Mr. Muhammad don't we think? At the time of his death he wound up having over 13 wives... A couple more then the 5 that supposedly Allah told him and stated in the qu'ran? Muhammad was a totalitarian
Oh thank you! I’m honoured that you’re going to make videos on topics I’ve brought up. Take your time, I won’t judge you if you take a while; I understand you have a family, and a job and other youtube comments to deal with maybe. You can’t dedicate all your time to me obviously. Thanks again :)
Yes with that second verse it doesn’t sound as bad. But I’m still not convinced; the verse doesn’t show that non-believers would be treated the same as muslims under sharia law; it just says non-believers who break promises are the worst (not embracing the faith seems the same as being a non-believer to me). If you can find me a verse that shows equality among non-muslims and muslims i would be most interested to read it. There is also Quran 98:6 which doesn’t agree with the Tafsir explanation.
The problem with humanity being different with their subjectiveness is that some people think it’s right to persecute apostates, that being said, I know there’s a lot of people who wouldn’t dream about persecuting apostates either, like yourself; you’re a genuinely nice guy. So it really goes down to what is says in the Quran and the Hadiths.
Yes I agree with you that morality is subjective and depends on the person, but yes, the more bizarre the issue becomes; the more similar the opinions people tend to have e.g. no one thinks its morally right to touch someone’s private parts. Well no one who is mature anyway lol.
No i do not know what Anthropology means, i will google it. That being said, you are right; cultures have different interpretations on what is right and what is wrong, being objective is hard, however i do think that the differences in culture are not significant, and morality is universal i.e. it’s not nice to murder other people, or its not nice to defecate in front of people (lol thats just gross)
@sailtheseaofcheese Well that is one of the issues, what is Moral and what is not.
Death penalty is immoral to some and not others. Some feel murder is justified at times especially if they are murderers.
A women is 100% against abortion, its immoral, then she gets pregnant and changes her views as it is not a good time for her. now her "Moral View" on abortion is changed because of personal experience.
@sailtheseaofcheese So humanity can never have a "Universal Morality" unless it comes from outside humanity. Our subjective views will always interfere. Of course there are things like Murder that the majority will accept as immoral but others., well
One more example, collateral damage. You want to accomplish a military objective. It is morally acceptable by many to kill innocents to accomplish their goal. It's just a part of war. Not my view of course
The Sheikh Ahmad Kutty (after being asked what to do with a man who converted to Christianity) said in his fatwa “This man has committed apostasy, he must be given a chance to repent; and if he does not then he must be killed according to Sharia”. I am no expert in Islamic law, however Sheikh Ahmad Kutty (who is based in Egypt) is an expert (and naturally I go to an expert to get information on something I know little about).
@sailtheseaofcheese So It all depends on who you choose to follow and that ends up being determined based on how much effort one puts in to learn about the individual as well as what Islam teaches.
In the end they are all just men and they can make many mistakes. That being said the apostasy issue is one i have researching for years and there are some pretty black & white views and others more in that middle ground
I have doubts that non-muslims share equal rights with muslims in Sharia, as the Quran does have a lot of hate speech towards unbelievers. Also i am constantly hearing stories about Christians being persecuted in Islamic nations, thousands of bibles being burnt for ‘public safety’. What about the law that non-muslims are not allowed to enter Mecca? And non-muslims who must pay tax to muslims? The harsh treatment of apostates?
@sailtheseaofcheese The Quran is very specific about those that loose their rights under Sharia. the Quran was revealed over 23 years. It was revealed as particular events occurred and for particular audiences.
Example:
[8:55] Indeed, the WORST of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe -
[8:56] The ones with whom you made a treaty but then they break their pledge every time, and they do not fear Allah.
@sailtheseaofcheese [2] Many will quote verse 8:55 as if it is some blanket statement but 8:56 shows it is not.
From Tafsir (explanation) ibn Kathir: "Allah states here that the worst moving creatures on the face of the earth are those who disbelieve, who do not embrace the faith, and break promises whenever they make a covenant, even when they vow to keep them"
So the worst of people are those that meet these three conditions
@sailtheseaofcheese [3] So if you do not meet these three conditions. i.e. you disbelieve but keep your promises, then this verse does not apply to you.
As for your other questions there are many. I am going to try to do a few videos to cover them. Faster.
Oh you have studied Sharia? What do you think of it?
I did not know that men are required to cover as well, may i ask what is it they are supposed to be covering? Google defines equality as ‘The state of being equal, esp. in status, rights, and opportunities’. I am also interested in hearing about the certain privileges that women have over men in marriage, please tell me.
Because as a believer in God, I don’t see why He would let such things happen to his own followers on such a grand scale (that being many Islamic nations corrupted).
Ok thank you so the correct way to say it is just ‘sharia’
Well politics is not my strong point, so I don’t know who is to blame for the corruption in the rulers of Islamic nations. However to my knowledge, Iran was a nation built on Islamic theology and it has failed. But like i said, politics is not my strong point. I guess time will tell if the new person who becomes in charge will be any different.
@sirataalmustaqeem Well i havnt studied sharia law, i havnt really learnt anything because i didnt even know about these allegations before. However, from what i see, the countries that impose sharia law seem to be the most violent or destitute.
@sailtheseaofcheese FYI: Sharia by the way means Law from the Islamic context. So Sharia Law is like saying Law Law.
The Islamic perspective on this is that Muslims are not acting like Muslims and I don't mean the rulers. People become weak and become corrupt then the allow corruption to rule them. Every man for themselves attitude.
I have been studying various aspects of Sharia for about a year and just like western legal systems it is very complex. Specific rules for specific situations
@sailtheseaofcheese One of the reasons you see all the uprisings, people are becoming stronger and are fighting back. Syria is killing thousands but the unarmed people keep fighting. In the past the killings would deter them. the people are changing becoming stronger in their belief and are willing to die for it.
@sailtheseaofcheese As for the allegations one must consider the source. There are many narrations that are frequently used to fight Islam but when one researches they will find that in many cases they are not authentic, or in other cases they are being used to prove one thing when in fact from an Islamic context they mean something else but because of translation and usage of language they are misunderstood.
@sailtheseaofcheese Now one last thing, there are many issues in Islam that people will see as bad and distasteful because they look at one little detail without understanding the bigger picture.
Women covering, many do not know that men are required to cover as well. It is just not the same. The definition of Equality in Islam is not the same in English. Everyone has equal rights of protection under Sharia, Muslim and non-Muslim. Marriage women have certain privileges over men and vice versa
@sailtheseaofcheese [1] I don't assume peoples level of knowledge, so I ask. Do you know what Anthropology is?
Specifically the aspect of Cultural study. One can NOT be objective and understand another society or culture by superimposing their own social, cultural and moral belief onto that culture. This fact also applies to the study of Islam as it is a Complete System to govern all aspects of society. Islam has its own culture. This does not mean you will agree with everything... continued
1941 it was yellow peril. A mass movement that proclaimed any one of Japanese origin is to be interned and despised. Today it is Islam that is to be hated. Today their is a difference. its the thought process of an entire group that is hated. not just slanted eyes. Islam is 600 yrs behind the rest of the world. Humanity has evolved from the Dark ages yet Islam is stuck in a medieval spirit of torture with kings sheiks and fiefdoms. Allah was a creation of human subject minds have faith in that
Materialism Mater is the only reality and thought is merely a function of it. I find "all" religious people have swerved so far from objective thought that. they are lost. they seek a nonexistent Being to bring meaning to their lives. When someone steps on their toes they jump into subjective reasoning to solve the problem. It was once said He who lives by the sword dies by the sword possibly true. he who lives by the bible dies by the bible, subjective truth I cant imagine life without truth
'Religion is pagan' I.e. Cave man looks up at the moon and throws a rock at it. Next cave man looks at him and says "Hey man you'll get it mad at you!" another caveman joins in and says dude?! "Beware the wrath of the moon, we had stormy weather, you have angered it." You should be punished for bringing dishonour upon the clan.- All religion came about this way. Just Muslims are more primitive then other cavemen. (Religious People)
It's sad that you honestly believe that your god wants you to recite these verses and prayers, wear stupid hats and hajibs, create stupid laws, kill homosexuals, beat your wives, blow shit up, make sure your fast, make sure you pray at certain times, pilgrimage, not masturbate, not have anal sex, not eat pork and not fuck your own brains with bullshit?
No, I think hes more concerned that if you be a good person and enjoy life with harming the least people as possible.
@TheNewAustralia1 Harm as few people as possible? That is one of the issues isn't it, what is your gauge for "Harming Another"? What you may consider harmful may not be harmful to another? It is very subjective and unless theres is a universal standard then what you say will never happen.
@sirataalmustaqeem well saying Homosexuality is wrong and it's not a choice and maybe saying we deserve to die is stupid and insulting because it's not true and if you were gay you'd know
@TheNewAustralia1 the thing that most concerns God, is whether you worship Him and only Him or if you attribute any associate or partner to God, whether though intention of action, everything else follows after. Its really not that hard, and it makes alot of sense, try reading the Quran it might change your mind about Islam
@BADDESTOFTHEMALLUKNO I've read the Quran and the Bible and they're both a load of shit. The old testament are mythology, new testament has some good word but still stupid shit and the Quran is just a miltant way of controlling people to do stupid shit. Also, Mohammed was a pedophile and I won't worship him.
@TheNewAustralia1 the Quran controls you to do stupid stuff? thats not true, what does it ask you to do thats stupid? its just truthfull, you dont have to follow it, it just the truth thats all, plus Mohammad (PBUH) didnt have aisha (who was 14 when he married her) for the reasons that people in the west thing you marry for, why is it that the prophet didnt have any children? was condoms free back then? you talk shit, because your ignorant
He never existed there is no evidence...you are quiet about this !
As for your book
Flogging with a 100 stripes (men and women) [24:2], "confine them to houses until death do claim them (lifelong house arrest - for the women) [4:15]. For men: "If they repent and amend, leave them alone" [4:16]. 24:2 contradicts both the procedure for women and men in Sura 4. And why is the punishment for women and men equal in Sura 24 but different in Sura 4?
@sirataalmustaqeem i ask you to pls read the quron part 9 26 (i belive it is) now tell me is that not the most violent page of a book youve ever read ya THATS WHAT SHRIA IS
sharia hates the infedel (me) and wants them dead hell its bad for muslims themselves (why arnt any muslim country a frist world countyr)
Mentioned 114 times in the Quran - In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. not in the name of Muhammad. We worship Allah (God) and not any many.
Please keep reading, if you think Muslims worship Muhammad. You are unwilling to listen when a Muslim tells you the truth about Islam and you prefer to listen to Islamaphobes is like going to a plumber to fix your car.
christians don't want sharia to be institutionalized because it would mean that THEIR religious law would get thrown out in a country that's supposed to be RELIGIOUSLY NEUTRAL. Hahah, american conservatives are morons.
Muhamad had sex with little children and killed in the name of God, Islam is a dark force that loves death and suffering.Cruel by nature and brutal to females.Sharia law is a evil belief system that encourages stoning of females and beheadings and all
kinds of inhumanities.Islam is a religion of HATE! nothing more nothing less.
i often hear that people who hate islam is is judged as racists or that they misunderstand islam. i can tell you that that is totally wrong. we have read and have seen it ourselves the pratice of sharia-law for ecample in saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan and other muslim countries. its just cruel. how can you justify lashings? and i totally respect if a person is muslim but i will never accept a islamic state where the goverment is based on sharia-laws. country should be runned by man made laws
Who brings the revelation from Allah to Muhammad? The ANGEL Gabriel [2:97], or the Holy Spirit [16:102]? The new revelation confirms the old [2:97] or substitutes it [16:101]? The Qur'an is PURE Arabic [16:103] but there are numerous foreign, non-Arabic words in it.
sharia-law is violence. let us look at the punishmentsi have read the sharia-laws. can i can tell you 100% that the punishments are to strict you can never justify amputation as a punishment. i know that islam dont punish innocent people no religion does that. anyway the punishments for the guilty person is not acceptable in my opinion is just unhuman. its totally logic why some people hate islam. now you might say that we hate it because we dont know anything about islam. that is wrong.
@xzaxx So a question? A better humane punishment is to lock someone up in a tiny cage and leave them for years at a time so when they come out they are worse than when they went in. This is a more humane way to punish criminals?
they will not become worse than ever. some of them comes back to prison but they have psygologic problems. they dont belong to prison. to lock someone is a more humane way. its more civilized punishment than giving lashings or amputate someones hand thats why the west dont have these punishments. giving lashings or amputation someone is punishment that lasts your hole lifetime. thats why its a unhuman punishments.
(pt 1/2) Infanticide is not permitted in Islam. Honor Killings and female circumcision are not mentioned in Hadiths/Qur’an- it is not prohibited, nor supported. However, the rejection and absence of jurisprudence on those 3 subjects doesn’t mean Sharia is just. Sharia explicitly allows slavery, rape (sources for both include Surah 4:24 and Sahih Bukhari 7:62:137), child marriage (for girls this is allowed once they menstruate-Aisha married and had sex with Muhammad at age 9...(cont.)
(pt 2/2) cont...once she began to menstruate. Menstruation which is a very poor indicator of maturity- what about girls who have precocious puberty like Lina Medina, who was 8 months old at menarche?), wife abuse (Surah 4:34- even if you want to go with the new interpretation of “lightly beating,” it is still degrading to one’s spouse, especially since they don’t have the right to hit you back for similar transgressions), and the killing of ex-muslims (Surah 9:11-9:12)
Although I think the scriptural evidence is against them, it appears that at least the Shafi'i school permits the killing of one's children. In the Shafi'i manual of Islamic law, Umdat al-Salik, under the heading 'The following are not subject to retaliation,' it says this:
"(4) a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." -- o1.2, pp. 583-4
The madhahab do indeed have a number of clearly insane laws.
Where in koran says Muhammed married a 9 year old girl name Aisha? Where in koran say the Infidels (the christian and jews) should be beheaded if they don't convert to islam? Where in koran says you will get 72 virgins in heaven and heaven is just like a big brothel? Where in koran says you can never be friends with the non-believers? O yea i can keep going but i am running outta characters but they are all in the koran hahaha.
@mafiagman Aisha's age not in Quran, number of virgins not in Quran, Beheading for not being Muslim, not in Quran. Not having non-muslim friends is not in Quran - verse you speak of is with those who are at war with you, not friends. Friends vs Allies
@sirataalmustaqeem You muslims pray cursing the jews and the christians every time you recite your prayer. How does that make the Musilms the so claim religion of peace. The koran about just killing the infidels and about alot of sex in heaven for example Allah allow grown man to have sex with little girls as long as he is not his daughter or his mother. In other word you can do your sister lol. Is it not true that Muslims heaven is a big sex place.
@sirataalmustaqeem yes so stop telling us is a Religion of Peace. Don't wear a mask and attack us from the back like cowards. Show us the real Islam. Show us how evil Islam really is. Full of sex sex sex. thats all u guys think about. Rape and sex so u make woman cover there faces. what a disgrace human beings. Are you not all ashamed covering behind your Allah for your lust and sins?
@sirataalmustaqeem yes so stop telling us is a Religion of Peace. Don't wear a mask and attack us from the back like cowards. Show us the real Islam. Show us how evil Islam really is. Full of sex sex sex. thats all u guys think about. Rape and sex so u make woman cover there faces. what a disgrace human beings. Are you not all ashamed covering behind your Allah for your lust and sins?
[4:23] PROHIBITED to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, SISTERS; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship...
[4:23] PROHIBITED to you (For marriage) are Your mothers, daughters, SISTERS; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship...
@sirataalmustaqeem where in the western society or any religion teaches that in heaven, you gonna rape some virgins and get slave boys? last time i check is only Islam. Look your prophet married a little girl for goodness sake are u so blinded. And yes that is why you people can not adopt kids no more cause he married his grand daughter(not his real son daughter but still pretty sick).
@mafiagman You can adopt kids, you cannot adopt them and change their name and steal their wealth. You adopt them to care for them, the practice was to adopt them and take everything from them. Islam stopped this.
@sirataalmustaqeem Stop hating the jews and the christian the non-believers. Stop listen to your false prophet who is telling you to kill and take the jews as salve and rape them. Stop reciting that cusing prayer to the jews and christian everyday. Stop going around the vigina shape black stone in mecca (for i have no reason why you people doing it). Stop saying the Rock of Dome in jerusalem is where your Muhammed went to heaven, which he clearly not. He was never in Isreal. Thank you.
@mafiagman Who says I hate anyone? How are you an expert on what is in my heart?
Where does it say any of these things, I'm interested in what you have been reading?
That part of the mosque (Golden Dome) didn't exist didn't back then, please read some history to find out what part of Al-Aqsa existed and what part didn't 1400 years ago.
@sirataalmustaqeem You don't hate the jews when your so called Holy prophet tell you to make war with the jews and christian and the non-believers if then don't convert to muslims? hahaha. Yes put a big smile on your face and while you are killing the non-muslim tell them you really love them. You muslims curse the non-muslims and pray for the destruction of other people everyday you pray. Islam is a religion of violence and sex. You know it and i know it. Just look at Muhammed.
Oh man, the minute you challenge them to show you ONE single thing from the quran, they disappear...... If only people devoted every day to reading 1 single page of the quran instead of devoting hours every day posting repetitive ignorant claims about islam
@InfidelArmee Funny you think you have stumbled on something brilliant. As for insults, insult me all you want but I won't keep posts that insult Allah or the Prophet. (your latest post) repost if you want without the insult.
@InfidelArmee Don't worry you don't have to drink it at all but I am sure that you will try to drink camel's urine when you suffer from cancer ( hope not ) but I know someone who did and cured ... btw his name is Mohammad and not Muzhammed .. ok and we don't need someone like you to teach us our religion go and solve you own problems
There is nothing in muslim life which non-related to quran or hadith,including the killing of disobedient children or those who put family honour under their feet.To answer some of your questions I will give some ayahs from the quran on the subject of disobedient children and allahs judgement about them and examples for the punishments.
So they set off, after leaving the ship, making their way on foot, until, when they met a boy, who had not yet reached puberty, playing with [other] boys, among whom his face was the fairest — and he, al-Khidr, slew him, by slitting his throat with a knife while he lay down,
or by tearing his head off with his hand, or by smashing his head against a wall, all of which are [different] opinions (the coordinating fā’ [of fa-qatalahu, ‘and he slew him’] is used here because [it indicates that] the slaying took place after the encounter; the response to idhā, ‘when’ is [the following statement, qāla …])
(4) — he, Moses, said, to him: ‘Have you slain an innocent soul, that is, a pure one that had not reached the age of [legal] responsibility (a variant reading [for zākiya] has zakiyya), [one slain] not in retaliation for another soul?, in other words, one that has not slain any soul. Verily you have committed an dreadful thing’ (read nukran or nukuran), that is to say, an abomination.
(And as for the lad) whom I killed, (his parents were believers) and of the greatest people of that township (and We feared lest he should oppress them) and your Lord Knew that he will overburden them (by rebellion and disbelief) by means of his rebellion and disobedience, and by lying in oath and so He killed him.
@AmdanAbla99 Al-Khidr (prophet, servant of God) had knowledge of the future that Moses did not, and he knew that the son would be the doom of his parents, But of course that does not matter since you do not believe in the Quran and its miracles/prophecies.
@sirataalmustaqeem I believe what I see.What is gods judgement for the disobedient childe.Surely this ayah not for entertaining but guidance for the believers.
@AmdanAbla99 [18:74] Then they proceeded: until, when they met a young man, he slew him. Moses said: "Hast thou slain an innocent person who had slain none? Truly a foul (unheard of) thing hast thou done!"
@sirataalmustaqeem I dont think sharia courts interested in Yusuf Ali`s quran translation but they will definitely in major tafsirs like Jalalayn or Ibn Abbas.
@AmdanAbla99 hehhe, you prove you have no knowledge or you do not read. My post "More on the story - TAFSIR IBN KATHIR". Ibn Kathir is the most recognized tafsir.
And again the story is a lesson on knowledge and not used as punishment for children. We cannot see the future however Al-Khidr was giving knowledge from God so that he may teach. This is the only reason he could pass judgment on a child before the crime was committed.
Sharia law requires evidence to pass judgment not prophecy.
@AmdanAbla99 My bad that should have said "one of the most recognized".
Either way it doesn't matter you did not read my post because you claimed I was using Yusuf Ali as a reference. You make assumptions about me and my level of knowledge because I am a white revert. you have been doing it since the beginning of your responses to my earlier videos.
You have not yet shown anything to disprove Islam. You post things you dislike with no level of understanding.
@sirataalmustaqeem So why did you post the ayah(18-74).Let me guess:You thought I was giving a distorted translation.I post things I dislike !!! Why I dislike them? What you understand from my posts(by the way if I am talking to a muslim I always remain loyal to the islamic sources).My work is not exactly for disaprouving islam but for remouving the mask which hides its ugly face. And .I dont really think you read my comments anyway(hopefully there are others)
@AmdanAbla99 Actually I did. My video asks specific questions about what people claim is permissible under sharia law. Your response is to bring up a story that is about teaching knowledge, no matter how distasteful it is, has nothing to do with Shaira law. I'll ask you the same question. Is this permissible under Sharia Law, Killing children for disobedience.
Sharia law is not based on a couple of verses. Hadith as you and I mention are also taken into account.
@sirataalmustaqeem Implementing Sharia can be various regarding time,place,madhab etc.but it will always work according to Quran and sunnas guidance.I still believe the teaching of knowledge (especially the knowledge from quran and sunna) is much better than believing without learning.
The most egregious case in point is the Umdat Al-Salik (“Reliance of the Sojourner” in Arabic), a manual on Shari’a (Islamic law) certified by Al-Azhar University, the most prominent and authoritative institute of Islamic jurisprudence in the world, as a reliable guide to orthodox Sunni Islam.
The manual states (01.1-2) that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right,”
(2) except when “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers)” kills his or her “offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” Hence, according to this view a parent, who murders his or her son/daughter for the sake of “honor,” whether owing to issues of chastity, apostasy and the like, incurs no penalty under Shari’a. This ruling is derived from a hadith
(Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4457) where it is affirmed that one should not kill a child unless one could know “what Khadir had known about the child he killed.” Khadir is a figure featured in the Qur’an who accompanies Moses on a journey and kills a son of believing parents for fear that he would rebel against the will of God (18:74 and 18:80-81).
It is for these reasons that Islamic religious authorities have often been reluctant at best to condemn the custom of honor killings.
(4)In fact, in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted against a bill to introduce harsher legal penalties for honor killings on the grounds that it would violate “religious traditions.” Likewise, with regards to the killing of Rand Abdel-Qader, a 17 year-old Iraqi who allegedly loved a British soldier stationed in Basra, by her father, an Iraqi sergeant pointed out that “not much can be done when we have an ‘honor killing’ case. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws
The UN estimates that there are thousands of honor killings every year. They also have some ideas where they are from (United Nations High Commission for Human Rights (2002)):
"The report of the Special Rapporteur ... concerning cultural practices in the family that are violent towards women (E/CN.4/2002/83), indicated that honour killings had been reported in Egypt, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Pakistan, the Syrian Arab Republic,
(6) Turkey, Yemen, and other Mediterranean and Persian Gulf countries, and that they had also taken place in such countries as France, Germany and the United Kingdom, within migrant communities."
@AmdanAbla99 And as for posting the ayat (18-74), I posted it before you were finished. You unlike most are providing more info. So it is habit. Majority of those attacking Islam paste half a verse or one verse of a larger story and think it is proof.
@AmdanAbla99 One other problem is that you only intend on showing "Islams Ugly Face". The things you dislike about the teachings. Why do you not say hey look, Islam has some many good teachings as well?
@AmdanAbla99 So why only focus only the perceived bad? From your perspective I get that they look bad. As a Muslim I have a different perspective. That is the debate of course.
@sirataalmustaqeem I dont say their all bad.I have great admiration for techings of eastern religions like budhism,jainism etc.However I dont believe reincarnation or existence of soul or life after life but I cant stop admiring their teachings.Quranic verses sounds like nursery rhyms beside quotes of Buddha or Confucius.
Another thing I have to point out that most muslims prefer to hide behind excuses like -This is not in the quran! or -Hadith are fabricated ! etc. Sharia doesnt work with only quran.
Abut the importance of hadith in islam another good article:
"The importance of hadith in islam by Prof. Shahul Hameed"
@AmdanAbla99 More on the story - Tafsir Ibn Kathir - "His parents rejoiced when he was born and grieved for him when he was killed. If he had stayed alive, he would have been the cause of their doom.
Look for the Story of Musa (Moses) and al-Khidr : Knowledge and Learning for the COMPLETE story and moral lessons.
In regards to my video, this is not a permissible act under Sharia law. These were stories about knowledge and patience not about punishment.
@racist123 Explain how you can force someone to do something without holding a gun to their heads 24 hours a day. Outwardly you could say you are Muslim but not act like it. No one can change what is in your heart or mind.
[2:256] There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way
those people who commited these disgusting crimes wreak of culture, they were just "born into" Islam, they could have been born into any other religion and would have done the same things. It's all backwards tribal garbage, nothing more nothing less.
as u said in another vedio , people tend to Judge not criticize , i found some guy saying sharia is evil bla bla bla so i simply replied that the examples he mentioned no where in any sharia book ,
it doesnt make sense that someone want to force a non muslim to apply the islamic law as he think ,
he simply replied "NO its evil" ...
wat do u say to someone like him , who want to scare himself or scare others for personal reasons lol
@koora8 When they answer like that, just say Peace and move on. Their online to complain and have no interest in gaining any knowledge. Allah guides who he wills.
[41:33] Who is better in speech than one who calls (men) to Allah, works righteousness, and says, "I am of those who bow in Islam"?
even i donot see any one trying to answer ur Questions but rather jumping to diffrent things, which remind me of those videos
apostasy some ppl trying to mention has been discussed by converted2islam watch?v=Q_oKXh2oy8E
also there was Some vidoes about WOMEN and MEN by Hamza Yusuf , goes to every verse in Quran about women which shows that greatness of islam but unfortunatlly i did not find it , but ppl do not want to see the whole picture
@uguly14 Yep the sad truth. Insha'Allah some may listen. We never know who our dawah will touch. Those that pose a question in response to a question have no interest in learn anything for themselves. The sad ones.
well the bigots will be bigots .... just like when ahmed deedat or zakir naik has debates with christians and they go home with the white flag yet they still dont accept defeat ....
You are asking fixed questions of limited scope. Why not ask the more broad question "Where is Sharia law unjust?" I can cite many examples. Or if you want to ask more specific questions of limited scope why not ones where the answers are more problematic than yours, such as "Where in Sharia law does it say one can own a human slave?" or "Where in Sharia law does it call for unequal rights for women versus men?" or "Where in Sharia does it call for amputation for petty theft?"
@frid9999 These are not questions of limited scope. This video is to address the evidence, that people like you put forward and tell others that this is Islam and sharia law. If you really have an interest in truth and knowledge then answer the questions I have posed then I will move on to your questions.
@sirataalmustaqeem You said, "answer the questions I have posed then I will move on to your questions." I am a vocal critic of Islam but I have never made those 5 accusations you purport that people make about shariah. My criticism of islam is always quran and hadith based.
But regarding number 1 and the Bukhari hadith about Aisha... how does a 6 year old girl turn down a marriage "proposal"? It isn't really a proposal if the victim is just 6 years old is it?
@frid9999 She wasn't without any protection, she had a family taking care of her! So if it was a crime, why her father would agree to marry his daughter to the Prophet (pbuh)?
They were best friends, so he could have said to him: "no, you're too old for my daughter, chose an orphan if you want a young girl, someone without family to protect her".
If the bride and her father were agree to this marriage, then who do you think you are to disagree with their decision? Such arrogant!
@frid9999 According to the bible, Isaac married Rebbeca when she was 3. Therefore Jews allowed marriages and sexual intercourses with a 3years old girl (talmud).
In Islam, it's forbidden.
In islamic law, (someone correct me if I'm wrong) The bride has to reach puberty (menstruation) before any marital relations, so even if she's 18, if she doesn't have her menses yet, she has to wait.
Aicha had her menses at 9, therefore she was a woman.
@gsamahh You miss my point entirely, human beings should never be forced into marriage of course, that is just wrong. Aisha was forced into marriage when she was just 6 years old. Basically she was sold off for sex, as your telling of the tale confirms.
I have two questions for you.
First question: If the mulititude of hideous, barbaric acts remain common occurences in many Muslim (and non Muslim) countries today, and are approved by Muslim authorities, then what insane law code are these courts using?
Question 2: If Sharia courts and Muslim leaders themselves claim to be carrying out Sharia law when these atrocities take place, who are you to dispute their claim? They are proud of their barbarism!
thinkingman777 8 hours ago
sharia law is out of date, left in the hands of hypocrites and uncivilized people wild bush men.
granny835 2 weeks ago
Muhammad was a liar, he said that man was only allowed to have 4 wives.. He had 4 then fell in love with his son's wife and persuaded her to Marry him then the public got angry as he said only 4 wife's so he says Allah contacted him and said he is allowed to have a fifth wife? Pretty convenient for Mr. Muhammad don't we think? At the time of his death he wound up having over 13 wives... A couple more then the 5 that supposedly Allah told him and stated in the qu'ran? Muhammad was a totalitarian
MrDJCiroc 3 weeks ago
Great vids! Thanks for posting.
nasiri78 1 month ago
@globehunter2 Remove the insult portion and keep the rest.
sirataalmustaqeem 3 months ago
@sirataalmustaqeem Why? are you afraid of the truth, having to remove it because you dont
want others to know how barbaric your sick religion is. so sad Suicide bombers haven is Islam.
globehunter2 3 months ago
i belive that its up to allah to judge punish us not sharia law
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
so all of a sudden god wrote the quron
i call bullshit
failurbanik 5 months ago
Oh thank you! I’m honoured that you’re going to make videos on topics I’ve brought up. Take your time, I won’t judge you if you take a while; I understand you have a family, and a job and other youtube comments to deal with maybe. You can’t dedicate all your time to me obviously. Thanks again :)
sailtheseaofcheese 5 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese Not a problem. You have been polite and thats the most I can ask.
Just don't ask so many things at once, you'll get answers quicker ;)
I'll keep you posted.
Salaam - Peace
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
Yes with that second verse it doesn’t sound as bad. But I’m still not convinced; the verse doesn’t show that non-believers would be treated the same as muslims under sharia law; it just says non-believers who break promises are the worst (not embracing the faith seems the same as being a non-believer to me). If you can find me a verse that shows equality among non-muslims and muslims i would be most interested to read it. There is also Quran 98:6 which doesn’t agree with the Tafsir explanation.
sailtheseaofcheese 5 months ago
The problem with humanity being different with their subjectiveness is that some people think it’s right to persecute apostates, that being said, I know there’s a lot of people who wouldn’t dream about persecuting apostates either, like yourself; you’re a genuinely nice guy. So it really goes down to what is says in the Quran and the Hadiths.
sailtheseaofcheese 5 months ago
Yes I agree with you that morality is subjective and depends on the person, but yes, the more bizarre the issue becomes; the more similar the opinions people tend to have e.g. no one thinks its morally right to touch someone’s private parts. Well no one who is mature anyway lol.
sailtheseaofcheese 5 months ago
No i do not know what Anthropology means, i will google it. That being said, you are right; cultures have different interpretations on what is right and what is wrong, being objective is hard, however i do think that the differences in culture are not significant, and morality is universal i.e. it’s not nice to murder other people, or its not nice to defecate in front of people (lol thats just gross)
Thank you
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese Well that is one of the issues, what is Moral and what is not.
Death penalty is immoral to some and not others. Some feel murder is justified at times especially if they are murderers.
A women is 100% against abortion, its immoral, then she gets pregnant and changes her views as it is not a good time for her. now her "Moral View" on abortion is changed because of personal experience.
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese So humanity can never have a "Universal Morality" unless it comes from outside humanity. Our subjective views will always interfere. Of course there are things like Murder that the majority will accept as immoral but others., well
One more example, collateral damage. You want to accomplish a military objective. It is morally acceptable by many to kill innocents to accomplish their goal. It's just a part of war. Not my view of course
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
The Sheikh Ahmad Kutty (after being asked what to do with a man who converted to Christianity) said in his fatwa “This man has committed apostasy, he must be given a chance to repent; and if he does not then he must be killed according to Sharia”. I am no expert in Islamic law, however Sheikh Ahmad Kutty (who is based in Egypt) is an expert (and naturally I go to an expert to get information on something I know little about).
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese Keep in mind that is one opinion and there are many who have the same view. But there also many who have a different view.
One thing in Islam is different schools of thought. There is the universal base and then there is all the grey area.
i.e. Music is a good example. Some say it is not allowed others say it is and then some say it is with restrictions.
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese So It all depends on who you choose to follow and that ends up being determined based on how much effort one puts in to learn about the individual as well as what Islam teaches.
In the end they are all just men and they can make many mistakes. That being said the apostasy issue is one i have researching for years and there are some pretty black & white views and others more in that middle ground
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
I have doubts that non-muslims share equal rights with muslims in Sharia, as the Quran does have a lot of hate speech towards unbelievers. Also i am constantly hearing stories about Christians being persecuted in Islamic nations, thousands of bibles being burnt for ‘public safety’. What about the law that non-muslims are not allowed to enter Mecca? And non-muslims who must pay tax to muslims? The harsh treatment of apostates?
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese The Quran is very specific about those that loose their rights under Sharia. the Quran was revealed over 23 years. It was revealed as particular events occurred and for particular audiences.
Example:
[8:55] Indeed, the WORST of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe -
[8:56] The ones with whom you made a treaty but then they break their pledge every time, and they do not fear Allah.
Continued..
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese [2] Many will quote verse 8:55 as if it is some blanket statement but 8:56 shows it is not.
From Tafsir (explanation) ibn Kathir: "Allah states here that the worst moving creatures on the face of the earth are those who disbelieve, who do not embrace the faith, and break promises whenever they make a covenant, even when they vow to keep them"
So the worst of people are those that meet these three conditions
1. disbelieve
2. do not embrace the faith
3. break promises
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese [3] So if you do not meet these three conditions. i.e. you disbelieve but keep your promises, then this verse does not apply to you.
As for your other questions there are many. I am going to try to do a few videos to cover them. Faster.
I'll post a link once they are up.
sirataalmustaqeem 5 months ago
Oh you have studied Sharia? What do you think of it?
I did not know that men are required to cover as well, may i ask what is it they are supposed to be covering? Google defines equality as ‘The state of being equal, esp. in status, rights, and opportunities’. I am also interested in hearing about the certain privileges that women have over men in marriage, please tell me.
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
Because as a believer in God, I don’t see why He would let such things happen to his own followers on such a grand scale (that being many Islamic nations corrupted).
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
Ok thank you so the correct way to say it is just ‘sharia’
Well politics is not my strong point, so I don’t know who is to blame for the corruption in the rulers of Islamic nations. However to my knowledge, Iran was a nation built on Islamic theology and it has failed. But like i said, politics is not my strong point. I guess time will tell if the new person who becomes in charge will be any different.
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
blinking much
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese Question, is that the knowledge you gained from the video, that I blink a lot?
Sincerely, did you learn anything that will benefit?
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
@sirataalmustaqeem Well i havnt studied sharia law, i havnt really learnt anything because i didnt even know about these allegations before. However, from what i see, the countries that impose sharia law seem to be the most violent or destitute.
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese FYI: Sharia by the way means Law from the Islamic context. So Sharia Law is like saying Law Law.
The Islamic perspective on this is that Muslims are not acting like Muslims and I don't mean the rulers. People become weak and become corrupt then the allow corruption to rule them. Every man for themselves attitude.
I have been studying various aspects of Sharia for about a year and just like western legal systems it is very complex. Specific rules for specific situations
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese One of the reasons you see all the uprisings, people are becoming stronger and are fighting back. Syria is killing thousands but the unarmed people keep fighting. In the past the killings would deter them. the people are changing becoming stronger in their belief and are willing to die for it.
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese As for the allegations one must consider the source. There are many narrations that are frequently used to fight Islam but when one researches they will find that in many cases they are not authentic, or in other cases they are being used to prove one thing when in fact from an Islamic context they mean something else but because of translation and usage of language they are misunderstood.
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese Now one last thing, there are many issues in Islam that people will see as bad and distasteful because they look at one little detail without understanding the bigger picture.
Women covering, many do not know that men are required to cover as well. It is just not the same. The definition of Equality in Islam is not the same in English. Everyone has equal rights of protection under Sharia, Muslim and non-Muslim. Marriage women have certain privileges over men and vice versa
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese [1] I don't assume peoples level of knowledge, so I ask. Do you know what Anthropology is?
Specifically the aspect of Cultural study. One can NOT be objective and understand another society or culture by superimposing their own social, cultural and moral belief onto that culture. This fact also applies to the study of Islam as it is a Complete System to govern all aspects of society. Islam has its own culture. This does not mean you will agree with everything... continued
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese [2] but one can benefit from the knowledge if one is truly objective to the best of their ability
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
@sailtheseaofcheese For now, hope some of that helps.
Salaam - Peace
sirataalmustaqeem 6 months ago
1941 it was yellow peril. A mass movement that proclaimed any one of Japanese origin is to be interned and despised. Today it is Islam that is to be hated. Today their is a difference. its the thought process of an entire group that is hated. not just slanted eyes. Islam is 600 yrs behind the rest of the world. Humanity has evolved from the Dark ages yet Islam is stuck in a medieval spirit of torture with kings sheiks and fiefdoms. Allah was a creation of human subject minds have faith in that
seventy18 7 months ago
Materialism Mater is the only reality and thought is merely a function of it. I find "all" religious people have swerved so far from objective thought that. they are lost. they seek a nonexistent Being to bring meaning to their lives. When someone steps on their toes they jump into subjective reasoning to solve the problem. It was once said He who lives by the sword dies by the sword possibly true. he who lives by the bible dies by the bible, subjective truth I cant imagine life without truth
seventy18 7 months ago
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'Religion is pagan' I.e. Cave man looks up at the moon and throws a rock at it. Next cave man looks at him and says "Hey man you'll get it mad at you!" another caveman joins in and says dude?! "Beware the wrath of the moon, we had stormy weather, you have angered it." You should be punished for bringing dishonour upon the clan.- All religion came about this way. Just Muslims are more primitive then other cavemen. (Religious People)
seventy18 7 months ago
Dear Mr. Muslim
It's sad that you honestly believe that your god wants you to recite these verses and prayers, wear stupid hats and hajibs, create stupid laws, kill homosexuals, beat your wives, blow shit up, make sure your fast, make sure you pray at certain times, pilgrimage, not masturbate, not have anal sex, not eat pork and not fuck your own brains with bullshit?
No, I think hes more concerned that if you be a good person and enjoy life with harming the least people as possible.
TheNewAustralia1 8 months ago
@TheNewAustralia1 Harm as few people as possible? That is one of the issues isn't it, what is your gauge for "Harming Another"? What you may consider harmful may not be harmful to another? It is very subjective and unless theres is a universal standard then what you say will never happen.
sirataalmustaqeem 8 months ago
@sirataalmustaqeem well saying Homosexuality is wrong and it's not a choice and maybe saying we deserve to die is stupid and insulting because it's not true and if you were gay you'd know
TheNewAustralia1 8 months ago
@sirataalmustaqeem true
BADDESTOFTHEMALLUKNO 7 months ago
@TheNewAustralia1 the thing that most concerns God, is whether you worship Him and only Him or if you attribute any associate or partner to God, whether though intention of action, everything else follows after. Its really not that hard, and it makes alot of sense, try reading the Quran it might change your mind about Islam
BADDESTOFTHEMALLUKNO 7 months ago
@BADDESTOFTHEMALLUKNO I've read the Quran and the Bible and they're both a load of shit. The old testament are mythology, new testament has some good word but still stupid shit and the Quran is just a miltant way of controlling people to do stupid shit. Also, Mohammed was a pedophile and I won't worship him.
TheNewAustralia1 7 months ago
@TheNewAustralia1 the Quran controls you to do stupid stuff? thats not true, what does it ask you to do thats stupid? its just truthfull, you dont have to follow it, it just the truth thats all, plus Mohammad (PBUH) didnt have aisha (who was 14 when he married her) for the reasons that people in the west thing you marry for, why is it that the prophet didnt have any children? was condoms free back then? you talk shit, because your ignorant
BADDESTOFTHEMALLUKNO 7 months ago
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Snutih 7 months ago
Islam is bad....it just is. How did you even become muslim. Your a white guy. I don't get it.
3DFLYLOW 9 months ago
@3DFLYLOW How does my skin colour have anything to do with a system of belief?
sirataalmustaqeem 9 months ago
So what about this fictional character muhammed.
He never existed there is no evidence...you are quiet about this !
As for your book
Flogging with a 100 stripes (men and women) [24:2], "confine them to houses until death do claim them (lifelong house arrest - for the women) [4:15]. For men: "If they repent and amend, leave them alone" [4:16]. 24:2 contradicts both the procedure for women and men in Sura 4. And why is the punishment for women and men equal in Sura 24 but different in Sura 4?
philipofportugal 10 months ago
@philipofportugal [25:63] وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الْأَرْضِ هَوْنًا وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الْجَاهِلُونَ قَالُوا سَلَامًا
Salam - Peace
sirataalmustaqeem 10 months ago
@sirataalmustaqeem i ask you to pls read the quron part 9 26 (i belive it is) now tell me is that not the most violent page of a book youve ever read ya THATS WHAT SHRIA IS
sharia hates the infedel (me) and wants them dead hell its bad for muslims themselves (why arnt any muslim country a frist world countyr)
failurbanik 7 months ago
No.
You can not understand.
You say that non-believers are having some misconception about islam.
This is untrue because of modern communications non-believers can get the truth easily.
Now the non-believers can see and hear the truth about islam and the truth is it is a load of shit.
the koran as I keep having to tell you about a murdering child molester and you want to worship him.
So it is no suprise that I think worshipping a murdering child molester is not so good.
philipofportugal 10 months ago
@philipofportugal
Mentioned 114 times in the Quran - In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. not in the name of Muhammad. We worship Allah (God) and not any many.
Please keep reading, if you think Muslims worship Muhammad. You are unwilling to listen when a Muslim tells you the truth about Islam and you prefer to listen to Islamaphobes is like going to a plumber to fix your car.
Shouldn't you go to a mechanic?
sirataalmustaqeem 10 months ago
No the saddest thing is that anybody is believeing a story book.
I quite like "Winnie The Pooh" but I do not believe it to be true.
Sharia law is from this story book of hate and violence.
sharia law is way for the imams to remain in power.
sharia law is backwards as in retarded.
You must really hate your parents to become a moslim.
YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE DO YOU ?
philipofportugal 10 months ago
@philipofportugal So are you telling me I do not know how to read?
sirataalmustaqeem 10 months ago
christians don't want sharia to be institutionalized because it would mean that THEIR religious law would get thrown out in a country that's supposed to be RELIGIOUSLY NEUTRAL. Hahah, american conservatives are morons.
EucharistOfHypnos 10 months ago
Muhamad had sex with little children and killed in the name of God, Islam is a dark force that loves death and suffering.Cruel by nature and brutal to females.Sharia law is a evil belief system that encourages stoning of females and beheadings and all
kinds of inhumanities.Islam is a religion of HATE! nothing more nothing less.
globehunter2 1 year ago
i often hear that people who hate islam is is judged as racists or that they misunderstand islam. i can tell you that that is totally wrong. we have read and have seen it ourselves the pratice of sharia-law for ecample in saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan and other muslim countries. its just cruel. how can you justify lashings? and i totally respect if a person is muslim but i will never accept a islamic state where the goverment is based on sharia-laws. country should be runned by man made laws
xzaxx 1 year ago
@xzaxx One thing to point out Sharia is Law. Please read more and perhaps you will learn.
What you are saying is the same as saying Law Law.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem More errors in your shit book :
Who brings the revelation from Allah to Muhammad? The ANGEL Gabriel [2:97], or the Holy Spirit [16:102]? The new revelation confirms the old [2:97] or substitutes it [16:101]? The Qur'an is PURE Arabic [16:103] but there are numerous foreign, non-Arabic words in it.
You really are a moron !!
philipofportugal 10 months ago
sharia-law is violence. let us look at the punishmentsi have read the sharia-laws. can i can tell you 100% that the punishments are to strict you can never justify amputation as a punishment. i know that islam dont punish innocent people no religion does that. anyway the punishments for the guilty person is not acceptable in my opinion is just unhuman. its totally logic why some people hate islam. now you might say that we hate it because we dont know anything about islam. that is wrong.
xzaxx 1 year ago
@xzaxx So a question? A better humane punishment is to lock someone up in a tiny cage and leave them for years at a time so when they come out they are worse than when they went in. This is a more humane way to punish criminals?
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem what do you mean with " so a question"?
they will not become worse than ever. some of them comes back to prison but they have psygologic problems. they dont belong to prison. to lock someone is a more humane way. its more civilized punishment than giving lashings or amputate someones hand thats why the west dont have these punishments. giving lashings or amputation someone is punishment that lasts your hole lifetime. thats why its a unhuman punishments.
xzaxx 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem stoning, amputation, beheading, burning, giving lashes were the punishments in the west some few century ago.
xzaxx 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem
Most things in sharia en quaran are a zeitgeist.
DeZorgenkindjes 10 months ago
(pt 1/2) Infanticide is not permitted in Islam. Honor Killings and female circumcision are not mentioned in Hadiths/Qur’an- it is not prohibited, nor supported. However, the rejection and absence of jurisprudence on those 3 subjects doesn’t mean Sharia is just. Sharia explicitly allows slavery, rape (sources for both include Surah 4:24 and Sahih Bukhari 7:62:137), child marriage (for girls this is allowed once they menstruate-Aisha married and had sex with Muhammad at age 9...(cont.)
BeforeYouSpeak1 1 year ago
(pt 2/2) cont...once she began to menstruate. Menstruation which is a very poor indicator of maturity- what about girls who have precocious puberty like Lina Medina, who was 8 months old at menarche?), wife abuse (Surah 4:34- even if you want to go with the new interpretation of “lightly beating,” it is still degrading to one’s spouse, especially since they don’t have the right to hit you back for similar transgressions), and the killing of ex-muslims (Surah 9:11-9:12)
BeforeYouSpeak1 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem
Although I think the scriptural evidence is against them, it appears that at least the Shafi'i school permits the killing of one's children. In the Shafi'i manual of Islamic law, Umdat al-Salik, under the heading 'The following are not subject to retaliation,' it says this:
"(4) a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." -- o1.2, pp. 583-4
The madhahab do indeed have a number of clearly insane laws.
ConsideringPhlebas 1 year ago
Where in koran says Muhammed married a 9 year old girl name Aisha? Where in koran say the Infidels (the christian and jews) should be beheaded if they don't convert to islam? Where in koran says you will get 72 virgins in heaven and heaven is just like a big brothel? Where in koran says you can never be friends with the non-believers? O yea i can keep going but i am running outta characters but they are all in the koran hahaha.
mafiagman 1 year ago
@mafiagman Aisha's age not in Quran, number of virgins not in Quran, Beheading for not being Muslim, not in Quran. Not having non-muslim friends is not in Quran - verse you speak of is with those who are at war with you, not friends. Friends vs Allies
Please read
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem You muslims pray cursing the jews and the christians every time you recite your prayer. How does that make the Musilms the so claim religion of peace. The koran about just killing the infidels and about alot of sex in heaven for example Allah allow grown man to have sex with little girls as long as he is not his daughter or his mother. In other word you can do your sister lol. Is it not true that Muslims heaven is a big sex place.
mafiagman 1 year ago
@mafiagman Islam is NOT a religion of Peace, it is a Way of Life that requires one to submit to the Creator...
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem yes so stop telling us is a Religion of Peace. Don't wear a mask and attack us from the back like cowards. Show us the real Islam. Show us how evil Islam really is. Full of sex sex sex. thats all u guys think about. Rape and sex so u make woman cover there faces. what a disgrace human beings. Are you not all ashamed covering behind your Allah for your lust and sins?
mafiagman 1 year ago
@mafiagman I never anywhere or at anytime said Islam was Peace. I am showing you the real Islam. You think what you see on CNN or Fox is the truth?
I could have all the sex I want, don't need to be a Muslim for that.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
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@sirataalmustaqeem yes so stop telling us is a Religion of Peace. Don't wear a mask and attack us from the back like cowards. Show us the real Islam. Show us how evil Islam really is. Full of sex sex sex. thats all u guys think about. Rape and sex so u make woman cover there faces. what a disgrace human beings. Are you not all ashamed covering behind your Allah for your lust and sins?
mafiagman 1 year ago
@mafiagman Not sure what book you have read...
[4:23] PROHIBITED to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, SISTERS; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship...
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@mafiagman Not sure what book you have read...
[4:23] PROHIBITED to you (For marriage) are Your mothers, daughters, SISTERS; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship...
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@mafiagman Sex Place: How is is that any different than western society?
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem where in the western society or any religion teaches that in heaven, you gonna rape some virgins and get slave boys? last time i check is only Islam. Look your prophet married a little girl for goodness sake are u so blinded. And yes that is why you people can not adopt kids no more cause he married his grand daughter(not his real son daughter but still pretty sick).
mafiagman 1 year ago
@mafiagman You can adopt kids, you cannot adopt them and change their name and steal their wealth. You adopt them to care for them, the practice was to adopt them and take everything from them. Islam stopped this.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem Stop hating the jews and the christian the non-believers. Stop listen to your false prophet who is telling you to kill and take the jews as salve and rape them. Stop reciting that cusing prayer to the jews and christian everyday. Stop going around the vigina shape black stone in mecca (for i have no reason why you people doing it). Stop saying the Rock of Dome in jerusalem is where your Muhammed went to heaven, which he clearly not. He was never in Isreal. Thank you.
mafiagman 1 year ago
@mafiagman Who says I hate anyone? How are you an expert on what is in my heart?
Where does it say any of these things, I'm interested in what you have been reading?
That part of the mosque (Golden Dome) didn't exist didn't back then, please read some history to find out what part of Al-Aqsa existed and what part didn't 1400 years ago.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem You don't hate the jews when your so called Holy prophet tell you to make war with the jews and christian and the non-believers if then don't convert to muslims? hahaha. Yes put a big smile on your face and while you are killing the non-muslim tell them you really love them. You muslims curse the non-muslims and pray for the destruction of other people everyday you pray. Islam is a religion of violence and sex. You know it and i know it. Just look at Muhammed.
mafiagman 1 year ago
@mafiagman Not sure what prayer you would be reciting... This is what all Muslims use
1:1 In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
1:2 Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
1:3 Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
1:4 Master of the Day of Judgment.
1:5 Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
1:6 Show us the straight way;
1:7 The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@InfidelArmee Comment of the ignorant... bye bye
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
Sounds like a mess to me.. Enjoy life!! Not Muslim but American Who loves all people no matter who they pray to
sng1977 1 year ago
@sng1977 And thats all we can ask of anyone. Tolerance is accepting that others believe in different things.
Nice to meet someone who can see that.
Salaam - Peace
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
Sounds like a mess to me.. Enjoy life!!
sng1977 1 year ago
Oh man, the minute you challenge them to show you ONE single thing from the quran, they disappear...... If only people devoted every day to reading 1 single page of the quran instead of devoting hours every day posting repetitive ignorant claims about islam
abmsu86 1 year ago
@abmsu86 Yes I didn't get any real responses to the video. Just deflections.
May Allah open the eyes of those who are seeking true knowledge.
Jazak Allah khair for the post
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
Drink Piss, Muzlum.
Muhammed recommends it for Good Health!
InfidelArmee 1 year ago
@InfidelArmee Yes he did
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
Muzhammed, the "Prophet" of Islam, Recommends Drinking Piss for Good Health!
It's in the Hadeeths. Don't Believe it? Google:
Muhammad Drinks Urine.
InfidelArmee 1 year ago
@InfidelArmee Would you be shocked to know that this is not the first time I have heard of this.
Thanks for posting.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@InfidelArmee Funny you think you have stumbled on something brilliant. As for insults, insult me all you want but I won't keep posts that insult Allah or the Prophet. (your latest post) repost if you want without the insult.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@InfidelArmee Don't worry you don't have to drink it at all but I am sure that you will try to drink camel's urine when you suffer from cancer ( hope not ) but I know someone who did and cured ... btw his name is Mohammad and not Muzhammed .. ok and we don't need someone like you to teach us our religion go and solve you own problems
lemon3011 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem
(1)
There is nothing in muslim life which non-related to quran or hadith,including the killing of disobedient children or those who put family honour under their feet.To answer some of your questions I will give some ayahs from the quran on the subject of disobedient children and allahs judgement about them and examples for the punishments.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(2) 18 Al-Kahf:74
* تفسير Tafsir al-Jalalayn
{ فَٱنْطَلَقَا حَتَّىٰ إِذَا لَقِيَا غُلاَماً فَقَتَلَهُ قَالَ أَقَتَلْتَ نَفْساً زَكِيَّةً بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ لَّقَدْ جِئْتَ شَيْئاً نُّكْراً }
So they set off, after leaving the ship, making their way on foot, until, when they met a boy, who had not yet reached puberty, playing with [other] boys, among whom his face was the fairest — and he, al-Khidr, slew him, by slitting his throat with a knife while he lay down,
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(3)
or by tearing his head off with his hand, or by smashing his head against a wall, all of which are [different] opinions (the coordinating fā’ [of fa-qatalahu, ‘and he slew him’] is used here because [it indicates that] the slaying took place after the encounter; the response to idhā, ‘when’ is [the following statement, qāla …])
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(4) — he, Moses, said, to him: ‘Have you slain an innocent soul, that is, a pure one that had not reached the age of [legal] responsibility (a variant reading [for zākiya] has zakiyya), [one slain] not in retaliation for another soul?, in other words, one that has not slain any soul. Verily you have committed an dreadful thing’ (read nukran or nukuran), that is to say, an abomination.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(5)18 Al-Kahf:80
* تفسير Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
{ وَأَمَّا ٱلْغُلاَمُ فَكَانَ أَبَوَاهُ مُؤْمِنَيْنِ فَخَشِينَآ أَن يُرْهِقَهُمَا طُغْيَاناً وَكُفْراً }
(And as for the lad) whom I killed, (his parents were believers) and of the greatest people of that township (and We feared lest he should oppress them) and your Lord Knew that he will overburden them (by rebellion and disbelief) by means of his rebellion and disobedience, and by lying in oath and so He killed him.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 Al-Khidr (prophet, servant of God) had knowledge of the future that Moses did not, and he knew that the son would be the doom of his parents, But of course that does not matter since you do not believe in the Quran and its miracles/prophecies.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem I believe what I see.What is gods judgement for the disobedient childe.Surely this ayah not for entertaining but guidance for the believers.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 Exactly you see what you want to see, even if the ENTIRE story is read along with explanations from Tafsir.
Fiqh deals with the observance of rituals, morals and social legislation in Islam.
A person TRAINED in fiqh is known as a Faqih (plural Fuqaha). These are the qualified individuals who determine Islamic legislation.
And I don't think you are one of those unless Google offers that now?
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 [18:74] Then they proceeded: until, when they met a young man, he slew him. Moses said: "Hast thou slain an innocent person who had slain none? Truly a foul (unheard of) thing hast thou done!"
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem I dont think sharia courts interested in Yusuf Ali`s quran translation but they will definitely in major tafsirs like Jalalayn or Ibn Abbas.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 hehhe, you prove you have no knowledge or you do not read. My post "More on the story - TAFSIR IBN KATHIR". Ibn Kathir is the most recognized tafsir.
And again the story is a lesson on knowledge and not used as punishment for children. We cannot see the future however Al-Khidr was giving knowledge from God so that he may teach. This is the only reason he could pass judgment on a child before the crime was committed.
Sharia law requires evidence to pass judgment not prophecy.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem " Ibn Kathir is the most recognized tafsir." interesting claim !
For the circumcision ( I couldnt post the link but you can google)
"Circumcision by M. Afifi al-Akiti"
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 My bad that should have said "one of the most recognized".
Either way it doesn't matter you did not read my post because you claimed I was using Yusuf Ali as a reference. You make assumptions about me and my level of knowledge because I am a white revert. you have been doing it since the beginning of your responses to my earlier videos.
You have not yet shown anything to disprove Islam. You post things you dislike with no level of understanding.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem So why did you post the ayah(18-74).Let me guess:You thought I was giving a distorted translation.I post things I dislike !!! Why I dislike them? What you understand from my posts(by the way if I am talking to a muslim I always remain loyal to the islamic sources).My work is not exactly for disaprouving islam but for remouving the mask which hides its ugly face. And .I dont really think you read my comments anyway(hopefully there are others)
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 Actually I did. My video asks specific questions about what people claim is permissible under sharia law. Your response is to bring up a story that is about teaching knowledge, no matter how distasteful it is, has nothing to do with Shaira law. I'll ask you the same question. Is this permissible under Sharia Law, Killing children for disobedience.
Sharia law is not based on a couple of verses. Hadith as you and I mention are also taken into account.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem Implementing Sharia can be various regarding time,place,madhab etc.but it will always work according to Quran and sunnas guidance.I still believe the teaching of knowledge (especially the knowledge from quran and sunna) is much better than believing without learning.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(1)
About Sharia and Honour Killings
The most egregious case in point is the Umdat Al-Salik (“Reliance of the Sojourner” in Arabic), a manual on Shari’a (Islamic law) certified by Al-Azhar University, the most prominent and authoritative institute of Islamic jurisprudence in the world, as a reliable guide to orthodox Sunni Islam.
The manual states (01.1-2) that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right,”
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(2) except when “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers)” kills his or her “offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” Hence, according to this view a parent, who murders his or her son/daughter for the sake of “honor,” whether owing to issues of chastity, apostasy and the like, incurs no penalty under Shari’a. This ruling is derived from a hadith
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(3)
(Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4457) where it is affirmed that one should not kill a child unless one could know “what Khadir had known about the child he killed.” Khadir is a figure featured in the Qur’an who accompanies Moses on a journey and kills a son of believing parents for fear that he would rebel against the will of God (18:74 and 18:80-81).
It is for these reasons that Islamic religious authorities have often been reluctant at best to condemn the custom of honor killings.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(4)In fact, in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted against a bill to introduce harsher legal penalties for honor killings on the grounds that it would violate “religious traditions.” Likewise, with regards to the killing of Rand Abdel-Qader, a 17 year-old Iraqi who allegedly loved a British soldier stationed in Basra, by her father, an Iraqi sergeant pointed out that “not much can be done when we have an ‘honor killing’ case. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(5)
The UN estimates that there are thousands of honor killings every year. They also have some ideas where they are from (United Nations High Commission for Human Rights (2002)):
"The report of the Special Rapporteur ... concerning cultural practices in the family that are violent towards women (E/CN.4/2002/83), indicated that honour killings had been reported in Egypt, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Pakistan, the Syrian Arab Republic,
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(6) Turkey, Yemen, and other Mediterranean and Persian Gulf countries, and that they had also taken place in such countries as France, Germany and the United Kingdom, within migrant communities."
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 And as for posting the ayat (18-74), I posted it before you were finished. You unlike most are providing more info. So it is habit. Majority of those attacking Islam paste half a verse or one verse of a larger story and think it is proof.
I apologize for assuming you were doing this.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 One other problem is that you only intend on showing "Islams Ugly Face". The things you dislike about the teachings. Why do you not say hey look, Islam has some many good teachings as well?
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem I think islam has more good teachings than the other religions.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 So why only focus only the perceived bad? From your perspective I get that they look bad. As a Muslim I have a different perspective. That is the debate of course.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99Pardon,I wanted to say" I dont think islam has more good teachings than the other religions".
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 So which one is it, you think it is all bad, mostly bad or just bad?
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem I dont say their all bad.I have great admiration for techings of eastern religions like budhism,jainism etc.However I dont believe reincarnation or existence of soul or life after life but I cant stop admiring their teachings.Quranic verses sounds like nursery rhyms beside quotes of Buddha or Confucius.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
Another thing I have to point out that most muslims prefer to hide behind excuses like -This is not in the quran! or -Hadith are fabricated ! etc. Sharia doesnt work with only quran.
Abut the importance of hadith in islam another good article:
"The importance of hadith in islam by Prof. Shahul Hameed"
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
@AmdanAbla99 More on the story - Tafsir Ibn Kathir - "His parents rejoiced when he was born and grieved for him when he was killed. If he had stayed alive, he would have been the cause of their doom.
Look for the Story of Musa (Moses) and al-Khidr : Knowledge and Learning for the COMPLETE story and moral lessons.
In regards to my video, this is not a permissible act under Sharia law. These were stories about knowledge and patience not about punishment.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
so the creator of the universe told you to cut off your 4skins and cover your women with sheets then did he , well he is a he like you say then
racist123 1 year ago
@racist123 Video asks specific questions, please answer them? Then send me your other questions. I'll make another video.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem now that you've converted to islam why don't you take the next step and move to a muslim country
racist123 1 year ago
@racist123 Tisk tisk, another question. no answers from the video. Ok moving on.
Salaam - Peace
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
your fucking brain washed
racist123 1 year ago
@racist123 Brainwashed: subjected to intensive forced indoctrination resulting in the rejection of old beliefs and acceptance of new ones;
[2:256] Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem forced indoctrination , that will be any muslim country , if you want to leave islam your killed
racist123 1 year ago
@racist123 Explain how you can force someone to do something without holding a gun to their heads 24 hours a day. Outwardly you could say you are Muslim but not act like it. No one can change what is in your heart or mind.
[2:256] There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The Church programmed the Christians to worship Jesus, now they started programming the Christians to worship Israel.
Christianity is a superstitious belief, hollow belief, and the opium of the people.
95% of the peoples of the world want to be told what to do, and how to behave.
U. S. created more dead, more orphans, more widows, more homeless, and more tortured under the? name of liberty and democracy than totalitarianism.
BiblesOnLine 1 year ago
May Allah reward you my brother, salamalakum
bayareadeen510 1 year ago
@bayareadeen510 Ameen, jazak Allahu khiar
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
Sharia, is Arabic for, Kangaroo.
Sharia Courts, are Kangaroo Courts.
InfidelArmee 1 year ago
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C0deZombie 1 year ago
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C0deZombie 1 year ago
those people who commited these disgusting crimes wreak of culture, they were just "born into" Islam, they could have been born into any other religion and would have done the same things. It's all backwards tribal garbage, nothing more nothing less.
jbags84 1 year ago
as u said in another vedio , people tend to Judge not criticize , i found some guy saying sharia is evil bla bla bla so i simply replied that the examples he mentioned no where in any sharia book ,
it doesnt make sense that someone want to force a non muslim to apply the islamic law as he think ,
he simply replied "NO its evil" ...
wat do u say to someone like him , who want to scare himself or scare others for personal reasons lol
koora8 1 year ago
@koora8 When they answer like that, just say Peace and move on. Their online to complain and have no interest in gaining any knowledge. Allah guides who he wills.
[41:33] Who is better in speech than one who calls (men) to Allah, works righteousness, and says, "I am of those who bow in Islam"?
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
Well done brother :)
apaketa 1 year ago
@apaketa Jazak Allahu khair
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@blackb3ard911
what are you talking about?
Welle92 1 year ago
i found the lecture "watch?v=BhEirLTl8ig&feature=related"
it is so beatiful to listen to it if u have time , it is useful :)
uguly14 1 year ago
Jazak ALLAH KAir my bro ,
even i donot see any one trying to answer ur Questions but rather jumping to diffrent things, which remind me of those videos
apostasy some ppl trying to mention has been discussed by converted2islam watch?v=Q_oKXh2oy8E
also there was Some vidoes about WOMEN and MEN by Hamza Yusuf , goes to every verse in Quran about women which shows that greatness of islam but unfortunatlly i did not find it , but ppl do not want to see the whole picture
uguly14 1 year ago
@uguly14 Yep the sad truth. Insha'Allah some may listen. We never know who our dawah will touch. Those that pose a question in response to a question have no interest in learn anything for themselves. The sad ones.
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
well the bigots will be bigots .... just like when ahmed deedat or zakir naik has debates with christians and they go home with the white flag yet they still dont accept defeat ....
blackb3ard911 1 year ago
they summarize sharia in people getting beheaded lol
ignorance is amazing ...
koora8 1 year ago
You are asking fixed questions of limited scope. Why not ask the more broad question "Where is Sharia law unjust?" I can cite many examples. Or if you want to ask more specific questions of limited scope why not ones where the answers are more problematic than yours, such as "Where in Sharia law does it say one can own a human slave?" or "Where in Sharia law does it call for unequal rights for women versus men?" or "Where in Sharia does it call for amputation for petty theft?"
frid9999 1 year ago
@frid9999 ow boy heres another one with his warcraft fantasies
blackb3ard911 1 year ago
@frid9999 These are not questions of limited scope. This video is to address the evidence, that people like you put forward and tell others that this is Islam and sharia law. If you really have an interest in truth and knowledge then answer the questions I have posed then I will move on to your questions.
The other questions these are for anther video.
Salaam - Peace
sirataalmustaqeem 1 year ago
@sirataalmustaqeem You said, "answer the questions I have posed then I will move on to your questions." I am a vocal critic of Islam but I have never made those 5 accusations you purport that people make about shariah. My criticism of islam is always quran and hadith based.
But regarding number 1 and the Bukhari hadith about Aisha... how does a 6 year old girl turn down a marriage "proposal"? It isn't really a proposal if the victim is just 6 years old is it?
frid9999 1 year ago
@frid9999 She wasn't without any protection, she had a family taking care of her! So if it was a crime, why her father would agree to marry his daughter to the Prophet (pbuh)?
They were best friends, so he could have said to him: "no, you're too old for my daughter, chose an orphan if you want a young girl, someone without family to protect her".
If the bride and her father were agree to this marriage, then who do you think you are to disagree with their decision? Such arrogant!
gsamahh 1 year ago
@frid9999 According to the bible, Isaac married Rebbeca when she was 3. Therefore Jews allowed marriages and sexual intercourses with a 3years old girl (talmud).
In Islam, it's forbidden.
In islamic law, (someone correct me if I'm wrong) The bride has to reach puberty (menstruation) before any marital relations, so even if she's 18, if she doesn't have her menses yet, she has to wait.
Aicha had her menses at 9, therefore she was a woman.
gsamahh 1 year ago
@gsamahh You miss my point entirely, human beings should never be forced into marriage of course, that is just wrong. Aisha was forced into marriage when she was just 6 years old. Basically she was sold off for sex, as your telling of the tale confirms.
frid9999 1 year ago
@frid9999 you're lying on purpose, I'm sure you already know that Aicha was engaged with someone else before the Prophet (peace be upon him).
So even if she was too young according to you living in the 21th century, she wasn't too young for marriage according to people in the 7th century.
gsamahh 1 year ago