Tell me if im wrong but. What my eyes are seeing is that Vista has more horses than Windows 7 and the screen isn't freezing every 2 seconds.... Hmm. Vista FTW?
@jurisnake8 Its not "Hunger" its called preload. Windows Vista preloads applications onto the RAM so that they start quicker. Thats why you see more RAM being used. Its the same in Windows 7 although it doesn't use it at much as Vista does. XP doesn't have that at all, thats why it uses less RAM.
This is sad, you can obviously tell the man was paid to say windows 7 is better, look at the charts, on the screen, vista is using a lot less cpu, and in my opinion from watching the video only once, i see more horses on vista then 7, but maybe I'm wrong there.
There seems to be some confusion regarding this video. As such we will be re-releasing more detailed screen captures of the demo. In the meantime until these are ready and to clear up some of the initial confusion Win7 is indeed the one on the right. And indeed there seems to be something else going on when the video was recorded. Intel and Msft worked together on tuning Win7 to understand the architectural changes that were introduced in the Core i7 processors better.
intel win vista/7 performance? "chop chop chop" Nvidia GPU preformance? "smooooooth" Intel is trying but failing with games. Nvidia is winning in the game department and ati makes them keep the pace
Man I don't know about Nvidia winning the graphics battle I mean my laptop has an Nvidia chip built in I have the current generation Macbook Pro but ATI makes some of the most amazing graphics cards
Thats not true. During that time, 30 FPS is maintained constant, and the horses handled are dropped/added dynamically. Thats the demo. Average CPU utilization on Win 7 is less, but spiky, thats not a bad thing. Win 7's CPU utilization of the hardware is much more dynamic. The only problem is the visual pauses you see, which incorrectly give the impression that there is a problem. There isn't
Pauses on Win 7 were unlucky, i agree. but its ok. it shows that it wasn't cooked :), as numbers were better on 7. i see the memory being used is also a bit less in 7. Kudos!
I can say in general Windows 7 is a vast speed improvement over Vista. Only recently I had both in a dual boot mode, and every game I had installed on vista ran much faster and smoother on windows 7. Not to mention load up time and general usage speed. Major improvement. Perhaps not as fast as XP, but for most barely noticeable and of course has the bonus of greater functionality and design.
Strange demo, definately stuttering on Windows 7 but the frame rate on the screen showed 30 fps more consistently. Probably some other factors making it stutter there.
both demos stutter and are choppy, i see the same amount of horses on both... the only difference i see is that win7 launches faster and has a higher core usage in task manager...
Quick way to tell which is which: The 7 start menu has items pinned to it, while the Vista menu has a quick-launch bar. The labels on the video are correct.
Except that the Vista machine is clearly outperforming the 7 machine... marketing fail.
And what the heck is an "i7 CPU Aware" OS? Windows 7 isn't doing anything extra over Vista in regards to processor identification. More marketing fail.
@JLouque@bitgod What I could see they labeled it correctly (intel has edited it?) but still, the Application Engineer misspelled Application Engineer...Apllication Engineer @00:10 :)
Yea why would they run a demo like this with 3 out of the 4 cores maxed out on the Windows 7 machine? So the demo was basically running on 1 core on the Windows7 machine and 4 cores on the vista one, lol.
Windows 7 is a great OS but this demo don't mean anything when you have shit running in the background on one machine and not the other.
@churoboec Running smoother yes, but more horses on the 7 and also some other processes/application running before the benchmark (as you can see on the Performance meter) xD
I think they screwed up the labeling and have it backwards. Looking at the taskbars, I'd think the one on the left that's playing back better is the Win7.
optimizing for specific processors is bullshit, just like specialized processors. and "allows you to put a few cores to sleep while maintaining peak performance" has to be some kind of oxymoron. it's indicative of the attitude of engineers. ever since the advent of multicore systems, all i've seen is innovation go southward. now that the gains have diminished i hope they're forced to come up with a standard that outlines multicore redundancy issues/bottlenecks
Honestly, it looks like B.S. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel made some sort of arrangement with Microsoft to make Windows 7 look good, and in turn, convince more people to buy it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the demo was more optimized for Windows 7. Let's face it, Microsoft can't make a OS better than Windows XP. They're a shell of their former glory.
Vista > Windows 7
XelaBackwardsX2 3 weeks ago
Tell me if im wrong but. What my eyes are seeing is that Vista has more horses than Windows 7 and the screen isn't freezing every 2 seconds.... Hmm. Vista FTW?
SOF006 7 months ago
yeah alot of bogging in the win7 version. id like to see an AMD phenom x6 4.0Ghz go up against the 8 core i7 :p
Kushiie420 9 months ago
I love how the the screen hiccups at the same time he's saying 'windows 7 is better'
eaglered666 1 year ago
so, a kernel's performance depends on the processor i have?
d0ck47 1 year ago
wow~~win7 running much heavier compare with windows vista....lol
striken2o 1 year ago
The framerate looked nearly flawless on Vista, but I observed quite a bit of hitching on 7. lol
pcnthuziast 1 year ago
Why dont you compare it to XP-performance? Vista is known for its hunger.
jurisnake8 1 year ago
@jurisnake8 Its not "Hunger" its called preload. Windows Vista preloads applications onto the RAM so that they start quicker. Thats why you see more RAM being used. Its the same in Windows 7 although it doesn't use it at much as Vista does. XP doesn't have that at all, thats why it uses less RAM.
SOF006 7 months ago
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cyandude78 2 years ago
This is sad, you can obviously tell the man was paid to say windows 7 is better, look at the charts, on the screen, vista is using a lot less cpu, and in my opinion from watching the video only once, i see more horses on vista then 7, but maybe I'm wrong there.
REWREW789 2 years ago
hmm windows 7 is like a slide show at 1.40 till 1.55
how nice is that for a gamer
grtzz
poerik 2 years ago
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ZEROCOOL962 2 years ago
There seems to be some confusion regarding this video. As such we will be re-releasing more detailed screen captures of the demo. In the meantime until these are ready and to clear up some of the initial confusion Win7 is indeed the one on the right. And indeed there seems to be something else going on when the video was recorded. Intel and Msft worked together on tuning Win7 to understand the architectural changes that were introduced in the Core i7 processors better.
channelintel 2 years ago
OK i understand. Sorry for what i said i will wait further updates from you.
ravensharpless 2 years ago
intel win vista/7 performance? "chop chop chop" Nvidia GPU preformance? "smooooooth" Intel is trying but failing with games. Nvidia is winning in the game department and ati makes them keep the pace
ravensharpless 2 years ago
Man I don't know about Nvidia winning the graphics battle I mean my laptop has an Nvidia chip built in I have the current generation Macbook Pro but ATI makes some of the most amazing graphics cards
edwin768 2 years ago
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luqddevil 2 years ago 5
Thats not true. During that time, 30 FPS is maintained constant, and the horses handled are dropped/added dynamically. Thats the demo. Average CPU utilization on Win 7 is less, but spiky, thats not a bad thing. Win 7's CPU utilization of the hardware is much more dynamic. The only problem is the visual pauses you see, which incorrectly give the impression that there is a problem. There isn't
MrBlueGenie 2 years ago
windows 7 -lag edition-
josetosniper 2 years ago
so vista is dropping more horses than 7, but 7 is dropping more frames than vista... looks like a trade off.
RidiculousX 2 years ago
I downloaded the horsepower demo myself and ran it on my top notch Core 2 Quad on windows vista. i had nowhere near the performance on these core i7!
There are indeed some pauses on the Windows 7 system, but the FPS and object numbers displayed are the final indicators!
Could be something was running in the background giving this impression.
Conclusion: very scalable framework, great processor, great OS. Thanks!
SuperDuke31 2 years ago
Pauses on Win 7 were unlucky, i agree. but its ok. it shows that it wasn't cooked :), as numbers were better on 7. i see the memory being used is also a bit less in 7. Kudos!
MrBlueGenie 2 years ago
I can say in general Windows 7 is a vast speed improvement over Vista. Only recently I had both in a dual boot mode, and every game I had installed on vista ran much faster and smoother on windows 7. Not to mention load up time and general usage speed. Major improvement. Perhaps not as fast as XP, but for most barely noticeable and of course has the bonus of greater functionality and design.
AFXE 2 years ago
if you listen closely he said vista has more objects on it lol
golem72002 2 years ago
Actually he's saying Vista is dropping more objects than 7. Meaning Vista renders 20% less objects than 7.
4000Mhz 2 years ago 3
Strange demo, definately stuttering on Windows 7 but the frame rate on the screen showed 30 fps more consistently. Probably some other factors making it stutter there.
koolkxp 2 years ago
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byteusa 2 years ago
lol vista is looking better... this guys a fool
rshintss 2 years ago
ive got vista now atm - should i upgrade to windows 7 or xp?
uSM3X 2 years ago
upgrade to xp
morgushong 2 years ago
OK...correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Windows 7 machine running at a lower resolution!
So...Won't that mean it will run smoother with a higher framerate!
BuNgLelove69 2 years ago
you're wrong
morgushong 2 years ago
Explain!
BuNgLelove69 2 years ago
Smothness better in 7? i see it stopping
baldes 2 years ago
There are more horses on the 7 though, ... I don't understand, how is this fail? It outperforms it..
Borridd 2 years ago
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byteusa 2 years ago
both demos stutter and are choppy, i see the same amount of horses on both... the only difference i see is that win7 launches faster and has a higher core usage in task manager...
googlegogo 2 years ago 2
Quick way to tell which is which: The 7 start menu has items pinned to it, while the Vista menu has a quick-launch bar. The labels on the video are correct.
Tach0012 2 years ago 4
Except that the Vista machine is clearly outperforming the 7 machine... marketing fail.
And what the heck is an "i7 CPU Aware" OS? Windows 7 isn't doing anything extra over Vista in regards to processor identification. More marketing fail.
SomebodyE 2 years ago 3
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LOL, somone slipped up Windows 7 is the one on the left. The Taskbar is the give away.
JLouque 2 years ago
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@JLouque @bitgod What I could see they labeled it correctly (intel has edited it?) but still, the Application Engineer misspelled Application Engineer...Apllication Engineer @00:10 :)
callecam 2 years ago
No thats the Vista machine.
digimortal81 2 years ago
Look again, that's the Windows 7 Taskbar on the right, clearly.
igeekone 2 years ago
On top of Windows 7 running smoother, you can see that it is using more of the processor also. Hahahaha.
sephuroth1 2 years ago
Yea why would they run a demo like this with 3 out of the 4 cores maxed out on the Windows 7 machine? So the demo was basically running on 1 core on the Windows7 machine and 4 cores on the vista one, lol.
Windows 7 is a great OS but this demo don't mean anything when you have shit running in the background on one machine and not the other.
03grandam 2 years ago
LOL are they mocking themselves with this demo? Vista running smoother , as we all can see :)
churoboec 2 years ago 3
@churoboec Running smoother yes, but more horses on the 7 and also some other processes/application running before the benchmark (as you can see on the Performance meter) xD
callecam 2 years ago
I think they screwed up the labeling and have it backwards. Looking at the taskbars, I'd think the one on the left that's playing back better is the Win7.
bitgod 2 years ago
ROFL. The Vista display was MUCH smoother.....:/
JustinR19 2 years ago
LOL - the windows 7 machine was choppy.. Meanwhile the vista machine appeared to be quite smooth.
It seems the video part of this made a mockery out of the audio portion of this.
robble69 2 years ago 4
optimizing for specific processors is bullshit, just like specialized processors. and "allows you to put a few cores to sleep while maintaining peak performance" has to be some kind of oxymoron. it's indicative of the attitude of engineers. ever since the advent of multicore systems, all i've seen is innovation go southward. now that the gains have diminished i hope they're forced to come up with a standard that outlines multicore redundancy issues/bottlenecks
part2themovie 2 years ago
finally intel named a viodeo right gj!
gorgi991 2 years ago
Honestly, it looks like B.S. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel made some sort of arrangement with Microsoft to make Windows 7 look good, and in turn, convince more people to buy it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the demo was more optimized for Windows 7. Let's face it, Microsoft can't make a OS better than Windows XP. They're a shell of their former glory.
divinityzoo 2 years ago 2
WTF? CPUs are much more spikey on Win7, as seen at 2:46m and sometimes on Win7 there's a small delay.
Vista drops more horses, but jitter on the Win7 platform used is weird :-S
Win7 works a bit better on my PC anyway...
TexZK 2 years ago 4
this is BS
the demo is optimized more for windows 7 thats it
its not the kernel that makes the demo faster
CRAKIZGOOD 2 years ago 8
wats kernel
bigdima3 2 years ago
nice
HAMAZA7123 2 years ago