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He is just using the conspiracy theory crowd. He obviously did not respect Jesse Ventura enough in this video, let alone to make him VP. I also believe Ron Paul is a closet homosexual. Ventura is being misled, just as he is with an alliance with Alex Jones. Please do not think Ron Paul will change anything.
@PrivationProductions CLOSET HOMO? LOL. FUCK OFF! if you want to spout out your narrowminded UNenlightened bullshit...do it at an o'zombie or paper politician webpage for palen or mccain or romney. The intelligent fed up people of this nation have no room for your ignorant doubts as your that apparently show your OWN confusion between your own legs. Piss off troll.
@chronofusion you mean to tell me, that if he were elected, and he were handed on envelope that says what we all suspect, which is that Israel was behind 9/11 and that he needs to keep that quiet or else, that he would do what is right and put a stop to it? No. It will be another four years of a pansy president.
@PrivationProductions NOPE..moron you missed the point entirely. and trying to put words in my mouth JUST like some of the interviews have treated Dr paul IS STUPID and make YOU look like the fool. and for the record. israel is NO REASON to fuck with us..WTF would you think they were behind 9/11. seriously i would need some real facts to back that bs up. 2nd. WE HAVE NEVER HAD A LIBERTARIAN president SINCE PROBABLY George Washington.RON PAUL is exactly that at heart.. SO FUCK OFF TROLL.
@chronofusion the fact that you don't know about Israel being behind 9/11 yet tells me you dont know what your talking about. look up the "mossad truck bombs on 9/11" and go from there
@PrivationProductions it doesn't make a fuck what ya think. because NEITHER YOU NOR I WAS THERE IN PERSON TO SEE THESE MOSSAD TRUCK BOMBS. bush helped planned the whole fucking thing as an excuse to create an ARTIFICIAL reason to go to war with brown people. ( THE BIGGER DICK FOREIGN POLICY). again..STFU..move on troll.
If Jesse Ventura ran with Ron Paul in 2012 they would lose. I live in his old precinct and Dr. Paul is a real gentleman. Although Jesse Ventura claims no party affiliation he likes a lot of democratic ideas and the Republican establishment despises him. They think him unstable due to his steroid use. Perhaps normalcy bias knows no bounds. Sucks to be sure.
Jesse actually is a Libertarian on many issues. GOVERNMENT stays out of people's personal life. He is an equal opportunity basher. I think Ron is still a Republican in many ways. He hates the neo-cons.
@eccoe Ventura has some of the highest approval ratings amongst "possible" Presidental candidates. They ran a poll on whether or not people would support him in a run, and a good majority answered, yes.
That being said, I don't agree with him on some issues like his conspiracy theories or views on not securing our borders but he'd make a great VP and get Ron Paul the votes he deserves.
Paul/Ventura 2012, on write in ballot because Fox,Cnn and all those biased corporate assholes will never give these guys any air time. Why, because they are the voice of the frustrated "American" populace, C'mon ppl we gotta take power back to the people, and get men that aren't tools of their parties!
Yes, absolutely, they would be an unstoppable force. They are hard-hitting, no bull straight shooters. Ron Paul/ Jesse Ventura 2012 is exactly what the nation needs
@Vertigo2903 I would go out and volunteer for that ticket, and I am definitely not the kind of person to do that crap. But I would do almost anything to see those two in office.
@Vertigo2903 man the TWO best men to save america from the cluches of the greedy bankers both honest n great americans what we all want to see not just youguys in the usa but they will be shut OFF by the very corrupt mainstream us news media will never get AIPEC APROVAL ever THEY ARE NOT YES SIR MEN THEY ARE Real honest Americans we all love best wishes to your freedom movement guys from the UK
he wanted to make brith control pills illigal and u think that states deciding is any better then abotion being completely illigal not really and he did want to make it completely illigal he double talked that in his speaches if i was on my other computer i accually have a link saved that says he wanted to get rid of the EPA i no way more then u caz if hes all for the constitution he wouldnt get rid of any1s rights at all ron paul is a freaking loony weather u like it or not
i think u mean seriously but i just rather type fast and i dont care so much about spelling all i care about is getting the facts out there and the truth and that ron paul is scum he wants to get rid of the EPA and thats evil
im not ignorant im the one that sees the truth and the truth is that ron paul is a lunitic that wants to ruin this world by getting rid of the EPA and the FDA and then making it so birth control pills r illigal and the same with abortion and i dont trust news stations caz they all lie and i can prove that and i will always vote for some1 who dosent want to start pointless wars and ruin this world more then it already is
i voted for obama over mccain i wanted chirs dodd who is also a libertainan who isnt screwed up like ron paul he is all for every1s choise in what they want to do unlike ron paul
You are joking right? Libertarian? Chris Dodd? Are you confusing Libertarianism with Progressive Liberalism? A founding principle of Libertarianism is to reject the use of force on others. Chris Dodd voted for the offensive war against iraq. Yes, he later changed his mind but too little, too late. He voted against the Vitter Amendement in favor of confiscating weapons from law abiding citizens. He is okay on civil liberties, but still is for the enslavement through income tax.
chris dodd cares about the constution more then ron paul dose thats what a liberitarian is some1 who cares about other peoples rights and he was on the democrats side of things not republican u think ron paul is so great but he wants to take away womens rights and make it so there is no EPA and FDA and he dosent give a dam about the constition
Where do you find the EPA, FDA, or abortion in the Constitution? Ron Paul wants the Federal government out of our lives as the Bill of Rights intended. Your inability to define libertarianism or even understand the Constitution is a bit sad. You should go back to school and learn a few things.
as of abortion it is mentioned EVERY1 HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE is in the constitution and as for the FDA and the EPA they r just needed or else we will have black smoke for people to die from
it says that every1 has the right to choose meaning that if a girl feels like she cant have a baby she dosent have to she can choose to have an abortion in other words
Actually, nowhere in the Constitution does it say "everyone has the right to choose". And do you define life by whether it is wanted? If you are annoying me and I wanted to get rid of you, can I kill you? Well, I can, but is it murder? Yes it is.
most of the stuff about ron paul is gone but i used to have lots of links bout that kind of stuff stupid computer crashed i will c what i can refind and send it to u in a PM and i wanted chris dodd caz he is a libertarain cept sain unlike ron paul but when it came down to mccain and obama it had to be obama starting another pointless war would have sucked and i new obama would close gwtanmo bay (prob spelt wrong but anyways its late here and just typing fast)
ya what do u think ron paul calls himself a liertarian hes just on the republicans side and its true i will find u the information but most of it is gone not to mention he hates minoritys and i can also get u that i just need some time and u will c how horrible ron paul really is
Chris Dodd is a joke. He is totally NOT a libertarian whatsoever. He is, in fact, a Keynesian who thinks massive government spending, printing and borrowing will bring us out of the brink of disaster.
ron paul isnt a libertarian he wants to make it so people cant choose and i dont no who mike gravel is i bet a fucking republican and all republicans suck caz they dont care bout other people only themselves
Mike Gravel isn't a Republican. He is a Democrat, but his policies are much closer to "Classical Liberal" ideals, rather than neoliberal views of current Democrats. Gravel is to Democrats, as Ron Paul is to Republicans. Against the grain and closer to pre-Civil War free-market ideals.
chris dodd is a liberaltarain i dont care what u say u never looked up suff bout him and ron paul dosent want people to be able to choose to have abortions and he wants to get rid of the EPA and the FDA i no most people think those programs r shit but thats caz the republicans ruin it since obama has been president have u heard bout toys being poisionness no caz obama fixed the FDA and i didnt no bout mike
He is definitely not one to discriminate, again, READ HIS BOOK!!
His main goal is equal rights and equal opportunity for all and just because he doesn't support a welfare/nanny state where the government steals from the people who work hard to give it to the poor doesn't make him discriminatory.
ever heard of H.R. 1207, the bill to audit the federal reserve....probably not, you probably dont even know what the federal reserve is or the fact this it is a private corporation that controls our money supply....
ya accually i do but i also no that the FDA and EPA r needed to keep food and toys and water safe i mean when bush was president the FDA and EPA were broken look at how much food poisioning and poisonious toys there where now that we have a democrat those r fixed anything resently bout unsafe toys now if ron paul got rid of those well we would have black smoke again
The reason that the EPA and FDA were broken during the bush years is because of the same reason they always will be, BIG PHARMA and other huge corporations pay off the FDA and EPA to get them to approve the things they want and the things that will give them huge profits.
The EPA recently hid a study that proved man made global warming is total bull.
But don't worry King Obama is going to save EVERYTHING. (lol complete sarcasm)
your wrong or else y r they completely fine when ever there is a democrat and y is it that the EPA completely fixed up mass water system so u dont even need to filter the water and y is it if the FDA is still broken there havent been any problems with toys
OBAMA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROBLEMS WITH TOYS!
Obama is most likely going to hype up the swine flu "pandemic" to steal more of our liberties even though less than 200 people have died. Regular flu kills ~36,000 people per year.
Please let me try to help you.... please watch "THE OBAMA DECEPTION" on youtube for free. It is a free movie to spread the message and wake people up. Corporate banking interests control the democrats and the republicans.
no hes not thats what ron paul would have done he wanted to get rid of abotortion as well as do a bunch of other shit and he hates minoitys he was really ganna take away a lot from them and he obama wants to make universal healthcare its bout time we had that and all republicans want to do is start wars
I'm sorry but I can't stand talking to you, you obviously have been brainwashed by mainstream media. Socialized healthcare makes people who work hard pay for other people's health. And do you really want the government controlling health? Universal healthcare hasn't worked for any other country that has tried it.
Abortion is killing babies. What does being anti-abortion have to do with hating minorites?!
u r fucking brainwashed by him i dont listen to the fucking media i no that he hates minoitys and he dosent even care to give women rights he is a jerk and canada has excellent healthcare and they have universal healthcare and if u dont like the thought of universal healthcare u get to keep the shit u have its not something that is manditory and its not killing babys its a nessasry evil and what i mean by that is if it was illigal there would b more problems and its done caz its needed not awant
1 its caz ron paul wants to get rid of abortion and as for your answer to 2 i no people who live in canada and for free she got to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks after having a baby just caz she wanted to and lots of people in canada say that the healthcare is excellect caz they get to make sure they r accually healthy b4 they leave no matter what the problem is in america we go in sick and come out sicker go to TED website im sure u can still find it there i will try to refind it on wimp
ok, whatever. ignorance is bliss. keep believing what you want but the truth is going to hit you hard. The lady staying in the hospital for 3 weeks cost every other tax payer for her to stay there. Nothing is free, someone has to get paid, and someone has to pay them; the taxpayers. Why don't you move to canada or france or somewhere else if you are not willing to work for the stuff that you want.
your stupidity is funny caz u just dont care that he hates minorities and u dont care that hes agenst womens rights prob caz u r a guy and dont understand anything bout womens rights and its not that simple 2 move believe me if there is a republican or a ron paul that becomes president i will fucking walk to canada if i have 2 i will move back to mass caz im in hawaii right now just 2 fucking walk 2canada to get away from shit if i absolutely have 2 but right now things r good theres a FDA & EPA
You know that Obama didn't set up the FDA and EPA right? it was around for bush also. He is not against womens rights he is FOR HUMAN RIGHTS! BABIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE!! Obama is doing the same BS that bush did. Nothing changes both parties just change your perception and perception is everything
well duh it was around for a long time to stop black smoke and bush when he was president didnt fund them at all or paid them off so they wouldnt check the food um fetis rnt babies and it is a womens right to have an abortion if needed especailly since adobtion agencys in america suckass and hes not doing the same BS he is accually trying to make it so people have healthcare and takecare of the world and obama isnt for legalizing even weed but im kool with weed being legal not haronine & hookers
I do believe that fetus are humans and they should have rights. My view of the government is only to keep our liberties safe. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDNT PROVIDE FOR THE CITIZENS!!! THAT IS SOCIALISM!!
okay well what you were saying about Guantanamo Bay, I'm glad it's closed. But they shouldve closed it and eveything like it. They are just making new facilities in other places, so closing it was pointless....
well then u would think a human is a person also when abortion is illigal more people who r preg die and u think that people should have to pay for the schools and stuff like that to as if we rnt getting a bad enough education as is u siriously have no idea what the government accually pays for u have no idea what anything pays for u r an idiot the government even helps out with healthcare as is if u get rid of taxes like u want 2 then the vets dont have healthcare either
I NEVER SAID GET RID OF TAXES. And yes if the mother will die I can see and justify an abortion. The income tax is constitutionally illegal and a main point of the communist manifesto. and yes you are right, government run schools do suck.
then that means u like the government paying for stuff there 4 u should hate what ron paul wants to do and if abortion didnt exist more mothers would accually die either A caz the guy who knocked her up will murder her or B they will try to have 1 done illigally and that would kill them if not make them extremely sick but the thing is government run schools dont suck else where just in america and we also spend the most money on r schools and its just caz of the way the teachers get paid
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taxes also pay for streets buildings and cops and firefighters as well as so many other things that people dont even concider the EPA and the FDA r also needed and they r funded with taxes unless u want to choke on black smoke and die
yeah, that's cuz yer stupid and have no idea how/why the EPA and FDA operate. He also wants to get rid of the Dept of Education, and I'm all for stopping more brainwashed people like yerself from getting let out on the streets of america. Yer a fuckin' tool.
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im not stupid your the one that is stupid for liking him he is a dickshit and mean and to get rid of those thing would be horrible for the people he wants to go back to the past when there was black smoke and he also wants to make prostitution legal and im agenst that and he is a jerk
@kazooga1234 You know what I'm tired of? I'm tired of making every stupid thing people do illegal. I don't care how stupid people are, if they want to get high, get a prostitute, whatever, go ahead.
In a Ron Paul government businesses will have the right to tell people like that they can't get a job, which is a lot more fitting punishment than me (a taxpayer) having to paying hundreds of government workers to TRY to keep it from happening (and failing).
@kazooga1234 A government cannot successfully legislate morality, I think that's obvious. And we'd be much better off it we'd stop trying because that's what so much of our taxpayer money goes in to.
Ron Paul wants to make America free again, and stop infringing upon our civil liberties that are supposed to be protected by the Constitution. Our government leaders by and large need to be put out on their ass for misrepresentation and misappropriation of funds.
he doesnt want to make it free again he wants to get rid of the FDA and EPA so the poor suffer more and he doesnt give a shit about the poor mostly caz they r blacks and he hates minoritys i can prove that and he is just going to keep helping the corporations like every1 else he wouldnt stop the war he just freaking said that and that moron also wants to make prositution legal and thats just fucked up
Are you sure that's WHY he wants to do all these things. I'd love to get rid of the FDA and EPA, the IRS, the DMV, social security, you name it. I'd like to see prostitution legal, drugs legalized, and abortion legal. But for the exact opposite reasons you claim he has. Some people just know how to look past the short term and look at the long term effects.
I'd like to see people free to make their own choices and when they make bad ones, suffer the consequences they deserve, and when they make the right ones, not have to give all their hard earned rewards over to the government who says (falsely) that they deserve a cut.
yes i am there is nothing good that will come to going back to black smoke and having that kill people and also i am sorry it took me so long to reply to this i am watching a 24 hour live show and watching it all and have been up for about 18 hours without sleep
well its true if u get rid of the EPA and FDA thats exactly what would happen thats y they where made in the first place go look it up and if u find it funny that people have choked on black smoke then u r a horrible person
kazooga, yer a fucking dumbass. Ron paul is a dumbass? Really, so a Medical Doctor that delivered more than 3,000 babies in his medical career as an MD is a dumbass? He also spent a good part of his career shoving guts back into wounded soldiers in Vietnam. So before you open yer yapping pie hole, you should listen twice as much first, since that's what yer creator gave you, use them accordingly. How you find yer car at the mall when yer done shopping for turds is beyond me.
im not brain washed u morons r caz in a few of ron pauls speaches he said he wanted to get rid of the EPA and FDA and that wouldnt lead to any good what so ever he wants things to back to how they where in the past as if the past was so wonderful well news flash it wasnt wonderful it was horrible
Shut up fool... go tell people who actually care about moronic statements. You've hit a brick wall with me. We need a president with testicular fortitude... a man like RON PAUL OR JESSE VENTURA IN 2012
im not a fool i can prove what im saying and ron paul could never be president to many people used to have the news paper artles that where racist and the news letters and those people are still alive the problem is if they wherent members of the KKK or other racist groups they just threw them out my aunt used to get them but she tossed them out the moment she got them caz they where fucking horrible just like ron paul is for wanting to get rid of the EPA and FDA
Ron Paul doesn't want the EPA or FDA to be regulated by the government, they have no part in mothering the country. Just because those groups wouldn't be considered part of the government doesn't mean that they couldn't exist... Ron Paul believes in the responsibility being placed in the right hands.. the citizens..
no he said get rid of the EPA and FDA i have a link to prove that and we cant get rid of them and if its not gov regulated then more people will die thats what isnt understood is that the gov is the one that stops people from being hurt that is y we r having so many problems with the health care system caz its corpate owned that is y every other country lives longer then us and i dont think that it should be just gov owned or just corp owned i think people should have a choise if they want gov
or if they want to have it corporate owned i dont trust either but i do trust the gov over any corp caz the corporations just want money when the government is working correctly they want to help out the people and corporations will go back to using black smoke if the EPA is gone
if u want proof that ron paul said get rid of the EPA and FDA just let me no
Tell me, how does having an EPA and FDA that is being controlled by politicians who are brought by lobbyist money good for the public? Getting rid of this departments will enable the free market to put drug and environmental protection in the right priorities.
caz the EPA and FDA are not controlled by politcians they are not bought by the lobbyist they just need the government to fund them so they can work properly and it is needed so people dont get sick like what was happening when bush was president caz he didnt fund it at all he pretty much got rid of the EPA and FDA and we went on to canadas standers and people where still getting sick and all u heard on the news was this toy is poisioned that toy is poisioned people got ecoilie from food
Even with the FDA, people have died. In a free market with no FDA, the victim's family will be able to take these phrama companies to court and sue them for all they're worth. FDA actually PROTECTED these phrama from being sue by the general public by saying their drug meets their standards. You need to see deeper into this to understand why the FDA needs to go.
That is only when the FDA is broken like when bush was president and it wasnt funded but the FDA is the reason that they have child proof caps on med bottles and the FDA has made sure that people dont get sick as much at least yes there r some drugs that have bad side effects that r found out later and the FDA decides its to dangerious to keep them around so they pull the drug but without the FDA those drugs wouldnt be pulled and the EPA did a hell of a lot for where i live with the water
You might think FDA did all that but I can honestly tell you, child proof caps and med bottles would've happened with or without the FDA. Have you seen the latest drug commercials? Notice how it always end with "Side effects include...." FDA did very little to stop these drugs from being in the market. But how many good drugs FDA stopped because the company can't pay for the lobby. And people would've stopped buying bad drugs, you don't need the FDA to pull them out.
right caz people have frivilous law suits and its not the pharma places fault if the people dont like the drugs they bought its either A the doctors fault for giving the wrong presctiption or B the FDAs fault for not catching all the side effects caz if some1 gets an elergic reaction to a med then people would go and sue the phramacys and it wasnt there fault that some1 just happened to have an elergic reaction when it wasnt anybodys fault
That is why we have judges so law suits will not be won by those who just want money.
Basically, what you're really saying is that normal people is so stupid that they couldn't take care of themselves, that without the FDA, people will still buy drugs that kills. Well if that's the case, why not let the government wake you up? Brush your teeth? Tell you what car to drive? Tell you what clothes to wear?
well the thing is that u cant take on big things like the state and thats y the FDA and EPA is there and why we need tort reform a good tort reform so people dont sue the doctors caz then their insurance goes up even if they win and with the tourt reform it would be who ever wins gets their court fees paid for them and the thing is with the FDA people r dieing less from the drugs and having less problems and its not that the government is running everything thats y they wont tell u what to ware
I agree tort reform is needed in the US, but I also believe that if the law suit is baseless, that it will get thrown out. However if the doctor's insurance still gets increased even if he wins the law suit, then that's wrong.
I disagree that people are dying less with the FDA because there simply isn't any evidence to support that. In fact, there is evidence to support that despite FDA, drugs are not only bad, but more costly. Bad not because they kill, but because they don't work.
and things like that its caz we have freedom but the governments job is to make sure that the people living in the country are safe and getting the help that they need that is why we need a public option to make sure that the people who r sick rnt dropped from the insurance company and can live caz living isnt a privlage its a right and that is y doctors dont turn people away caz they cant and that is y people r paying for illigal immagrants right now who r sick
"the governments job is to make sure that the people living in the country are safe" - Does that mean you supported the Patriot Act? If you do then I'll leave it there but if you don't, that will mean you are contradicting your believes.
no because that went up agaisnt the constitution and made us less safe all sastics say so u can say that something will keep u safe but just caz u say that doesnt make it true now i can prove that the patriot act made us less safe but the FDA and EPA makes us safer and the public option will also and that is y when bush was president everything was at a fail and the government wasnt doing its job there wasnt an EPA or a FDA we where forced to go on to canadas standers when bush was president
I would very much like to see your evidence of how Patriot Act makes you less safe. I don't think the Patriot Act has any effect making USA more or less safe. It's just a lame duck act to me, but I don't support the Patriot Act because it is against the constitution and I don't support the FDA for the same reason. I don't know why one is okay while the other is not.
I honestly believe that the US foreign policies do more to make people less safe then that Patriot Act ever will. If the US is in danger of another attack, it will be because of its foreign policy. If there's something in the PA similar to that effect, then I'd agree with you.
well i dont no much about the foreign policies to be exact but the patriot act does make people less safe and i wouldnt doubt that the foreign policies could be fixed up caz there r a lot of things that could be fixed but the fact that americans pay more in health care then any other country and dont live nearly as long there has to be something messed up with that and the government is supposed to help out the people in the country its supposed to keep the corporations in check
"supposed to keep the corporations in check" - but that's the exact reason why we don't want the FDA. The FDA is a corporation controlled entity disguised as a government agency. When corporations get into trouble they run to the FDA for help. If government is not involved, the consumer's purchasing power can actually force these corporations to be in line.
The FDA is part of the reasons why US citizens pay more in health care. FDA only allow certain drugs to be sold in the US and restricting supply of drugs and thereby driving the prices up. FDA in turn created mini monopolies for certain drugs with the pharma companies and you get higher prices.
your wrong without the FDA and EPA more people would be getting sick and that would mean higher premiums and its the corporations that make it so we pay more for health care every other country does single payer so y is it that we r dieing quicker then almost ever other country it doesnt make sense cept for that fact that the other countrys have their government protecting them
Again, I don't see any evidence that the FDA has improved the drug quality. Case in point, wasn't it a couple of years ago that we have a big heart drug causing complication deaths? Also, wasn't it not too long ago that there was another drug suspecting to cause suicide of those who take them?
As someone who had lived in Canada for most of my life, I can tell you that Universal health care sounds good in theory, but if I was a millionaire, I'd go to the US to get my healthcare service in a heart beat. My father had a heart condition for nearly 10 years before he died, but the Canadian health system did NOTHING to cure him. My brother who's a doctor in Canada said that Canadian health system is based on 'maintaining the status quo of patients'.
well i no lots of people who live in health care and say it has gotten better and that they wouldnt want a health care system like america i am accually not 100% for single payer i just think its better then the shit we have right now i think the best way to go is with a public option where people can choose if they want the gov to take care of them or not not something forced upon them and no mandate so if u dont want any health care plan at all u dont have to have it and u can keep what u have
i just think that it isnt fair that every1 gets treated for the health care problems they have for the most part but then have to go bankrupt or have to suffer and choose to die to maintain there familys life style caz they cant afford the health care bill the public option if done correctly will make it so everybody has some sort of insurance if they want it if u r like rush limbaugh and can pay your own then im fine with that but if u cant pay your own then u have insurance and it should be
Well, like I said, Hong Kong has a very efficient public option system. But the difference is, Hong Kong has a population of 7 million and The United States has a population of 300 million. It is much more challenging to manage from a Federal level.
Maybe such system can be implemented on a more local level.
well if we have the corps under control then it would work and it has to be written well for it to work yes we have a lot of people in the population but it would still be better then what we have now and we could at least try it i mean if single payer isnt a good system then y r they living longer then the people in america that is what doesnt make sense to me and i dont think it would be the best system for america caz america is based off of choise if people dont want it they shouldnt pay 4it
I don't think there's any argument that there needs to be a change in the health care front the difference lies in how it is being changed. The public option is one method but it does bring up the issue of 'Can US government afford it?"
I would much prefer the 'Tax' method. Allow insurance companies the ability to get tax break if they offer affordable insurance w/o pre-existing condition clauses and allow tax deduction on health care expenses for low income families.
the government wont be paying for it its for the people who want it as if it was another insurance company and that is if it is done like that and correctly then yes it should work but with the 2 shit bills that r out right now it wont work and all the government needs to do is take money away from the places that rnt using the money correctly instead of taking it from medicare and medicade then things would be better also but the republicans want it to be taken from medicare and medicade
Here lies the problem. You said that it's the people who want it sure. The people who don't want it still needs to pay because the government will use their tax dollar, so part of their taxes will be use to fund this public option. Does that not violate their right to refuse? Don't forget, their rights should be protected as well. I'm sure you wasn't too thrill about having your tax dollar spent on the war.
And the reason why the bills have become shit is because they are being pulled in every direction. Everyone is trying to get what they want from the bill and the government must represent them. It's like you want steak, one want vegetarian, and another want see food, at the end, you all get mud in a bowl. Wouldn't it better if government provide you, the individual, incentives to cook your own steak so you will fully get what you want?
ya i hate that the republicans water them down so much and then didnt even vote on them but i guess its better then them voting on the watered down versions the democrats had a strong bill at one point that could have passed but once obama wanted bipartisin votes on the bill it couldnt pass the democrats didnt vote on it caz it was to weak and the republicans didnt vote on it caz they dont want anything to happen cept things stay how they r and the gov could let us cook our own steaks but wont
Believe it or not, this is why I support Ron Paul. You can't get anything done right with the government. Because it needs to represent all sides and more often then not, the sides conflicts. That is why I believe the private sector can do a better job at providing affordable healthcare. Because you, as someone who wants this, can build the system to what you like while ignoring other things that you don't believe in. Government can't do that.
Throughout this health care debate, I hear both side claiming "The People wants....". Well, I'm sure anyone can play with the numbers to support their narrative but the issue isn't with just what the people want. It's 'what are we going to do with the other people'. We can't service the majority at the expense of the minority, whatever their sides maybe because if that's the case, then the US might as well be ruled by a single party.
well i think a lot of that has to do with the information that people are getting i mean a lot of them that dont want this think that the public option is manditory and not really an option and others think that the bills out right now r public options and i think what has to happen is people to understand that its only an option not manditory if the public option gets into a bill and all the polls that i have seen the majority of people want the public option even in the badly written polls
I think there are some legit concerns as well. Cost being one of them. And I'm not talking about the cost of operating the system, I'm referring to the cost of planning and implementing. The only way the government can fund the building of the public option is to borrow again. I think you'll have to agree that the debt is a legit concern in the US, and with the debt being where it is at today, you must ask whether this is a good time to spend even more.
well the thing about the public option is that it isnt something that we have to go on so if it isnt up to par then nobody has to use it and the public option can go away if it doesnt do what its supposed to do as well unlike single payer and it would get rid of the deficate not add to it so it will help take the debt down
I understand your point but that would mean that the tax money have gone to waste which will piss off those who are opposing it now even more and give us the "I told you so" argument. :)
The bottom line is, any government spending in health care reform, be it public option or alternative method, will mean violating the rights and believes of a group of tax payers.
well not nessisary caz from what i understand is that people will be paying for the public option like its another insurance company and insurance companys would do just fine even if they took everybody with pre existing conditions and didnt drop anybody caz there was an insurance company that did that at 1 point and they where still making a lot of money not in the millions but in the hundred thousands so as long as people pay for the public option we shouldnt have a problem
I'm referring to the cost of setting up the system. Like the cost of setting up a business. Sure, when the public option is up and running, those who don't want it don't have to use it. But their tax dollars have been used by the government to set up the system
i understand what u r saying now and that explains the gov having the FED be incharge of the public option since they do whatever they want with money pretty much but they also where thinking about some other ways of having the public option work i no one was use it like buy into medicare or medicade but i dont how they r going to set it up or anything they had a few ideas about that nothing stuck caz the public option kept dieing i hope they do it like a buy in thing then set up something new
@kazooga1234 THEY PRINT MONEY AT WILL on FA reserves THE MONEY MASTER a must for all descent ppl who love justice them criminals have screwed up your once Great country the whole world admired the most n turned it into the most hated country for their OWN benefit its THEM the world hates not u guys also google WHO OWNS all mainstream us news Media poisoning amerian minds with BS lies for theor OWN agenda
@polygamous i accually forgot i posted on i am not completely for the FED i agree audit the FED dont get rid of it caz then it would be harder to track downt he private corps it would turn into and i accually now found and no matter what money is going to get printed i just think that printed money should have to go through a process to get printed and
@polygamous1 not whenever the FED feels like it now if a private corp was running it even more money would prob be printed then it is now and who would be able to track that money down
also it will lower the insurance companys rates so people dont have to struggle to pay for insurance from another company and that will help out also even if the deficate doesnt get paid off so i dont c the public option as a raising taxes thing
i think what needs to me done about the minority is make sure they rnt paying for the public option in any way shape or form so no mandate and let people like rush limbaugh pay for their own medical bills if they want to and then for the people who still dont want it that wont make sense caz its mean for the people who need it and they r prob rich and just trying to help out the corporations and that wont help any1 caz u cant please every1 some people prob want to live in a capalist country
There is no way a government system can do that. Don't forget, it's not just the bill of having to go to the doctor. Just by setting up such a system requires money - Building the hospital, having the proper registration, hiring staff...all these are cost that needs to be spent before the system is in place. Government can't do that without using 'everyone' money - Even those who don't want the option.
affordable so u rnt going bankrupt trying to stop yourself from going bankrupt or for the people who do the responicble thing and get some insurance and then find out its better if they didnt have any at all caz others would have paid for them thats not right either i also think with affordable insurance then it will give people more of a chance to do something with there life then be on welfare caz right now its better to be on welfare then be in the middle class caz if u r on welfare u have
free medical care for your entire family but if u r in the middle class u r struggling to pay for medical expences and trying to live on a budget without going bankrupt and thats extremely hard to do
but at the same time, I do not dare to argue with you regarding the public option because I've since moved back to Hong Kong and have actually see it working well. In HK, there are privately run hospital and government run hospitals. People get to choose. Of course, Gov't run hospital are cheaper but of lesser quality but still, I rate it above the Canadian system. So I guess my only argument is that HK is a city, not a country so I am sceptically in favour of the public option.
i didnt know that about hong kong but that explains why they live longer then the people in america and that is one problem i have with ron paul is that he is against the public option and there is no need for him to be and he is also against womens rights and the EPA and FDA they get to me a lot with him caz i have read how life was like before the EPA and FDA and it was horrible
Well, let me correct you there about him being against women's rights because I've heard this argument against Ron Paul a few times. Ron Paul is a faith Christian and as such he has personally taken a Pro-Life position. However, he has on numerous occasion said that the constitution does not give federal government any powers to dictate how people should live their lives. He would prefer to have the state or a even more local government make those decision, which ever it may be.
I think if you look closely at the history of the FDA, you'll find that it's record of protecting people is not all that impressive. One well documentated case: /watch?v=tcjzdoiL0j4 (although more about Fox news)
well the stuff i have known about before there was an EPA and FDA things where bad and i no the EPA did a lot for my home town we used to not be able to drink the water and if we did we got sick and everyday there was about 3 or 4 people sick from my school caz u cant avoid the water even when it was filtered it wasnt enough and i am sure the FDA has done a lot more then people relize
To be perfectly honest...I don't disagree with everything you say. I'm sure FDA has done its share of good. My position is that these 'good' would've happened with or without the FDA. Personally, I don't have a problem with keeping the FDA if it is simply a recommendation agency, not a regulating agency. I think the FDA would be better served acting like a 'seal of approval' type of agency instead of 'regulators', if you know what I mean.
just so u no ron paul is a fucking dumbass caz what u r saying is true but i bet u didnt no that that moron doesnt believe in evolution and that means that he shouldnt be a doctor if he cant even believe in that and it shows he still has old ways of thinking and he is still a racist caz of it
@meshuggahfan yes and he is a racist the proof is now looking at his son at least his son is honest about being a racist but his son had to learn racist motives from some1 and it was his father now u cant find enough proof for most people in the articles that r posted online but if u r smart u would c that rand is just like ron and they r both dumbasses who want to make it so people dont have equal rights
@mrjon75 alright i have it give me a second to give u the link i will send it in a PM he talks about how he is fine spilting up black and whites into different bathrooms and stuff if its in a private place and stuff and in the link i am going to find u will c that isnt possible caz its like what if the building is public but the bathrooms r private then we will be back when racism was worse then it is now
@kazooga1234 more than 1 month ago, still waiting on that link..... ANd yer not going to find it, because he's not racist.... Homo troll alert, homo troll alert.
@kazooga1234 k i resent the links and racism is learnt so what i just showed u proves that rand is a racist and the way he learnt how to be a racist is from ron paul and i have news articles of ron pauls that r racist if you need them as well
@kazooga1234 LOL, you can't say that ron paul taught someone to be a racist..... That's just outlandish; and really you're just splitting hairs now on the bandwagon that is "the armchair skeptic." Jog on! :-D
@meshuggahfan well accually since rand is his son yes i can its caz racism is taught in family and i can prove that with the articals that ron paul had in his new letters and stuff so u cant denine that they r both racists
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angelablass 8 months ago
He is just using the conspiracy theory crowd. He obviously did not respect Jesse Ventura enough in this video, let alone to make him VP. I also believe Ron Paul is a closet homosexual. Ventura is being misled, just as he is with an alliance with Alex Jones. Please do not think Ron Paul will change anything.
PrivationProductions 8 months ago
@PrivationProductions Well I'm convinced (sarcasm).
opszanski 8 months ago
@PrivationProductions CLOSET HOMO? LOL. FUCK OFF! if you want to spout out your narrowminded UNenlightened bullshit...do it at an o'zombie or paper politician webpage for palen or mccain or romney. The intelligent fed up people of this nation have no room for your ignorant doubts as your that apparently show your OWN confusion between your own legs. Piss off troll.
chronofusion 8 months ago
@chronofusion you mean to tell me, that if he were elected, and he were handed on envelope that says what we all suspect, which is that Israel was behind 9/11 and that he needs to keep that quiet or else, that he would do what is right and put a stop to it? No. It will be another four years of a pansy president.
PrivationProductions 8 months ago
@PrivationProductions NOPE..moron you missed the point entirely. and trying to put words in my mouth JUST like some of the interviews have treated Dr paul IS STUPID and make YOU look like the fool. and for the record. israel is NO REASON to fuck with us..WTF would you think they were behind 9/11. seriously i would need some real facts to back that bs up. 2nd. WE HAVE NEVER HAD A LIBERTARIAN president SINCE PROBABLY George Washington.RON PAUL is exactly that at heart.. SO FUCK OFF TROLL.
chronofusion 8 months ago
@chronofusion the fact that you don't know about Israel being behind 9/11 yet tells me you dont know what your talking about. look up the "mossad truck bombs on 9/11" and go from there
PrivationProductions 8 months ago
@PrivationProductions it doesn't make a fuck what ya think. because NEITHER YOU NOR I WAS THERE IN PERSON TO SEE THESE MOSSAD TRUCK BOMBS. bush helped planned the whole fucking thing as an excuse to create an ARTIFICIAL reason to go to war with brown people. ( THE BIGGER DICK FOREIGN POLICY). again..STFU..move on troll.
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Escarurufolfio 9 months ago
Ron Paul/Gary Johnson 2012
Jingles2423x 9 months ago
@Jingles2423x eh..not sure about gary johnes as vp...more like Andrew Napolitano
chronofusion 8 months ago
Closely listen to a Pre-Arizona Tragedy copy of the movie Inception
jamestargetedindiv 9 months ago
He looks a whole lot like Martin Crane (Frasier's dad), and is indeed just as lovable ^_^
leirgauk 1 year ago
If Jesse Ventura ran with Ron Paul in 2012 they would lose. I live in his old precinct and Dr. Paul is a real gentleman. Although Jesse Ventura claims no party affiliation he likes a lot of democratic ideas and the Republican establishment despises him. They think him unstable due to his steroid use. Perhaps normalcy bias knows no bounds. Sucks to be sure.
eccoe 1 year ago
@eccoe
Jesse actually is a Libertarian on many issues. GOVERNMENT stays out of people's personal life. He is an equal opportunity basher. I think Ron is still a Republican in many ways. He hates the neo-cons.
coolmamac 1 year ago
@eccoe Ventura has some of the highest approval ratings amongst "possible" Presidental candidates. They ran a poll on whether or not people would support him in a run, and a good majority answered, yes.
That being said, I don't agree with him on some issues like his conspiracy theories or views on not securing our borders but he'd make a great VP and get Ron Paul the votes he deserves.
rLOVEutionFor2012 10 months ago
Ron Paul denied the truthers. Jesse should run with Kucinich.
Rendereason 1 year ago
Ron Paul/Ventura or Ron Paul/Allen West or Ron Paul/Michele Bachmann in 2012...they are all TRUE Constitutionalists.
funk7000 1 year ago
Paul/Ventura 2012, on write in ballot because Fox,Cnn and all those biased corporate assholes will never give these guys any air time. Why, because they are the voice of the frustrated "American" populace, C'mon ppl we gotta take power back to the people, and get men that aren't tools of their parties!
Marzz5585 1 year ago
ron paul/jesse ventura 2012
DanKreiger 1 year ago
Holy crap... Imagine if Ron Paul was never in congress! That possibility really unnerves me. 13000 votes saved this country!
terr547 1 year ago
ROn Paul and Jesse Ventura 2012 Vote up if you agree
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Ron Paul for president.
starclad 1 year ago 2
Ron Paul is an honorable man
SEK4110 1 year ago 2
@SEK4110 compleltely agree hes a racist and so is his son and thats where rand learned his racism beliefs
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Rockie Lynne? Who the hell is that?! This guy is a nut job!
Theblizzardking 1 year ago
Right eyebrow is considerably shorter than the left
jdivaro 1 year ago
If Jesse Ventura ran with Ron Paul in 2012 they will be unstoppable
Huge name recognition and disgust for both praties
Vertigo2903 2 years ago 45
@Vertigo2903
Maybe we should pressure them into it. Shove the war monger-ors out of office. Truth in the white house.
FromyColdeadHands 2 years ago
Yes, absolutely, they would be an unstoppable force. They are hard-hitting, no bull straight shooters. Ron Paul/ Jesse Ventura 2012 is exactly what the nation needs
mrlemonbreath 2 years ago
@Vertigo2903 I would go out and volunteer for that ticket, and I am definitely not the kind of person to do that crap. But I would do almost anything to see those two in office.
RicoLen1 2 years ago
@Vertigo2903 man the TWO best men to save america from the cluches of the greedy bankers both honest n great americans what we all want to see not just youguys in the usa but they will be shut OFF by the very corrupt mainstream us news media will never get AIPEC APROVAL ever THEY ARE NOT YES SIR MEN THEY ARE Real honest Americans we all love best wishes to your freedom movement guys from the UK
polygamous1 1 year ago
@Vertigo2903 True
TheMystic2100 1 year ago
He ran in 1976, that's the year the country turned 200 years old. Something to think about.
Rjackman84 2 years ago
ron paul and jeese ventura ....2012.....
sleger1974 2 years ago 2
paul looks weird in the lighting
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jwka2001 2 years ago
he wanted to make brith control pills illigal and u think that states deciding is any better then abotion being completely illigal not really and he did want to make it completely illigal he double talked that in his speaches if i was on my other computer i accually have a link saved that says he wanted to get rid of the EPA i no way more then u caz if hes all for the constitution he wouldnt get rid of any1s rights at all ron paul is a freaking loony weather u like it or not
kazooga1234 2 years ago
learn proper grammar before you would like anyone to take you serious.
defiance1313 2 years ago
i think u mean seriously but i just rather type fast and i dont care so much about spelling all i care about is getting the facts out there and the truth and that ron paul is scum he wants to get rid of the EPA and thats evil
kazooga1234 2 years ago
im not ignorant im the one that sees the truth and the truth is that ron paul is a lunitic that wants to ruin this world by getting rid of the EPA and the FDA and then making it so birth control pills r illigal and the same with abortion and i dont trust news stations caz they all lie and i can prove that and i will always vote for some1 who dosent want to start pointless wars and ruin this world more then it already is
kazooga1234 2 years ago
who did you vote for? Obama's expansion of the Afghanistan war?
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago
i voted for obama over mccain i wanted chirs dodd who is also a libertainan who isnt screwed up like ron paul he is all for every1s choise in what they want to do unlike ron paul
kazooga1234 2 years ago
You are joking right? Libertarian? Chris Dodd? Are you confusing Libertarianism with Progressive Liberalism? A founding principle of Libertarianism is to reject the use of force on others. Chris Dodd voted for the offensive war against iraq. Yes, he later changed his mind but too little, too late. He voted against the Vitter Amendement in favor of confiscating weapons from law abiding citizens. He is okay on civil liberties, but still is for the enslavement through income tax.
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago 2
chris dodd cares about the constution more then ron paul dose thats what a liberitarian is some1 who cares about other peoples rights and he was on the democrats side of things not republican u think ron paul is so great but he wants to take away womens rights and make it so there is no EPA and FDA and he dosent give a dam about the constition
kazooga1234 2 years ago
Where do you find the EPA, FDA, or abortion in the Constitution? Ron Paul wants the Federal government out of our lives as the Bill of Rights intended. Your inability to define libertarianism or even understand the Constitution is a bit sad. You should go back to school and learn a few things.
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago
as of abortion it is mentioned EVERY1 HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE is in the constitution and as for the FDA and the EPA they r just needed or else we will have black smoke for people to die from
kazooga1234 2 years ago
Come on. Don't be a moron. Please quote the article and section where the right to choose abortion is cited in the Constitution.
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago
it says that every1 has the right to choose meaning that if a girl feels like she cant have a baby she dosent have to she can choose to have an abortion in other words
kazooga1234 2 years ago
Actually, nowhere in the Constitution does it say "everyone has the right to choose". And do you define life by whether it is wanted? If you are annoying me and I wanted to get rid of you, can I kill you? Well, I can, but is it murder? Yes it is.
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago
So who did you vote for? And can you show me where Ron Paul is anti-birth control?
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago
most of the stuff about ron paul is gone but i used to have lots of links bout that kind of stuff stupid computer crashed i will c what i can refind and send it to u in a PM and i wanted chris dodd caz he is a libertarain cept sain unlike ron paul but when it came down to mccain and obama it had to be obama starting another pointless war would have sucked and i new obama would close gwtanmo bay (prob spelt wrong but anyways its late here and just typing fast)
kazooga1234 2 years ago
Likely excuse. Since there is no such information, maybe you would like to point out one item that makes Dodd a libertarian.
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago
ya what do u think ron paul calls himself a liertarian hes just on the republicans side and its true i will find u the information but most of it is gone not to mention he hates minoritys and i can also get u that i just need some time and u will c how horrible ron paul really is
kazooga1234 2 years ago
I tried to give you a chance to come up with a viable argument based on facts. You are actually an idiot. Consider yourself blocked.
jimmyjoe1975 2 years ago
Chris Dodd is a joke. He is totally NOT a libertarian whatsoever. He is, in fact, a Keynesian who thinks massive government spending, printing and borrowing will bring us out of the brink of disaster.
Maybe you're thinking about Mike Gravel?
DarthKazi 2 years ago
ron paul isnt a libertarian he wants to make it so people cant choose and i dont no who mike gravel is i bet a fucking republican and all republicans suck caz they dont care bout other people only themselves
kazooga1234 2 years ago
"he wants to make it so people cant choose" ??
Please explain in detail.
Mike Gravel isn't a Republican. He is a Democrat, but his policies are much closer to "Classical Liberal" ideals, rather than neoliberal views of current Democrats. Gravel is to Democrats, as Ron Paul is to Republicans. Against the grain and closer to pre-Civil War free-market ideals.
DarthKazi 2 years ago
chris dodd is a liberaltarain i dont care what u say u never looked up suff bout him and ron paul dosent want people to be able to choose to have abortions and he wants to get rid of the EPA and the FDA i no most people think those programs r shit but thats caz the republicans ruin it since obama has been president have u heard bout toys being poisionness no caz obama fixed the FDA and i didnt no bout mike
kazooga1234 2 years ago
Maybe you should educate yourself on the issues you want to blab about. Read his book, The Revolution.
You need to get your head out of the fake left-right paradigm. Both parties, left and right, are controlled by corporate banking interests.
alphatube0 2 years ago
maybe u should c how much of a dumbass ron paul really is he is a lunitic and he hates minoritys
kazooga1234 2 years ago
He is definitely not one to discriminate, again, READ HIS BOOK!!
His main goal is equal rights and equal opportunity for all and just because he doesn't support a welfare/nanny state where the government steals from the people who work hard to give it to the poor doesn't make him discriminatory.
alphatube0 2 years ago
i read his news articles those r much more informitive he is an idiot and he wants to get rid of the EPA and the FDA and im not for that at all
kazooga1234 2 years ago
ever heard of H.R. 1207, the bill to audit the federal reserve....probably not, you probably dont even know what the federal reserve is or the fact this it is a private corporation that controls our money supply....
alphatube0 2 years ago
ya accually i do but i also no that the FDA and EPA r needed to keep food and toys and water safe i mean when bush was president the FDA and EPA were broken look at how much food poisioning and poisonious toys there where now that we have a democrat those r fixed anything resently bout unsafe toys now if ron paul got rid of those well we would have black smoke again
kazooga1234 2 years ago
The reason that the EPA and FDA were broken during the bush years is because of the same reason they always will be, BIG PHARMA and other huge corporations pay off the FDA and EPA to get them to approve the things they want and the things that will give them huge profits.
The EPA recently hid a study that proved man made global warming is total bull.
But don't worry King Obama is going to save EVERYTHING. (lol complete sarcasm)
alphatube0 2 years ago
your wrong or else y r they completely fine when ever there is a democrat and y is it that the EPA completely fixed up mass water system so u dont even need to filter the water and y is it if the FDA is still broken there havent been any problems with toys
kazooga1234 2 years ago
OBAMA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROBLEMS WITH TOYS!
Obama is most likely going to hype up the swine flu "pandemic" to steal more of our liberties even though less than 200 people have died. Regular flu kills ~36,000 people per year.
Please let me try to help you.... please watch "THE OBAMA DECEPTION" on youtube for free. It is a free movie to spread the message and wake people up. Corporate banking interests control the democrats and the republicans.
you have nothing to lose. just watch
alphatube0 2 years ago
no hes not thats what ron paul would have done he wanted to get rid of abotortion as well as do a bunch of other shit and he hates minoitys he was really ganna take away a lot from them and he obama wants to make universal healthcare its bout time we had that and all republicans want to do is start wars
kazooga1234 2 years ago
I'm sorry but I can't stand talking to you, you obviously have been brainwashed by mainstream media. Socialized healthcare makes people who work hard pay for other people's health. And do you really want the government controlling health? Universal healthcare hasn't worked for any other country that has tried it.
Abortion is killing babies. What does being anti-abortion have to do with hating minorites?!
alphatube0 2 years ago
u r fucking brainwashed by him i dont listen to the fucking media i no that he hates minoitys and he dosent even care to give women rights he is a jerk and canada has excellent healthcare and they have universal healthcare and if u dont like the thought of universal healthcare u get to keep the shit u have its not something that is manditory and its not killing babys its a nessasry evil and what i mean by that is if it was illigal there would b more problems and its done caz its needed not awant
kazooga1234 2 years ago
1.whats your source for "Ron Paul not caring about womens rights"?
2.whats your source for "canada has excellent healthcare"?
A lot of Canadians come to the US to have healthcare and so do many rich people from other countries!!! There are huge waiting lists in Canada.
alphatube0 2 years ago
1 its caz ron paul wants to get rid of abortion and as for your answer to 2 i no people who live in canada and for free she got to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks after having a baby just caz she wanted to and lots of people in canada say that the healthcare is excellect caz they get to make sure they r accually healthy b4 they leave no matter what the problem is in america we go in sick and come out sicker go to TED website im sure u can still find it there i will try to refind it on wimp
kazooga1234 2 years ago
ok, whatever. ignorance is bliss. keep believing what you want but the truth is going to hit you hard. The lady staying in the hospital for 3 weeks cost every other tax payer for her to stay there. Nothing is free, someone has to get paid, and someone has to pay them; the taxpayers. Why don't you move to canada or france or somewhere else if you are not willing to work for the stuff that you want.
alphatube0 2 years ago
your stupidity is funny caz u just dont care that he hates minorities and u dont care that hes agenst womens rights prob caz u r a guy and dont understand anything bout womens rights and its not that simple 2 move believe me if there is a republican or a ron paul that becomes president i will fucking walk to canada if i have 2 i will move back to mass caz im in hawaii right now just 2 fucking walk 2canada to get away from shit if i absolutely have 2 but right now things r good theres a FDA & EPA
kazooga1234 2 years ago
You know that Obama didn't set up the FDA and EPA right? it was around for bush also. He is not against womens rights he is FOR HUMAN RIGHTS! BABIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE!! Obama is doing the same BS that bush did. Nothing changes both parties just change your perception and perception is everything
alphatube0 2 years ago
well duh it was around for a long time to stop black smoke and bush when he was president didnt fund them at all or paid them off so they wouldnt check the food um fetis rnt babies and it is a womens right to have an abortion if needed especailly since adobtion agencys in america suckass and hes not doing the same BS he is accually trying to make it so people have healthcare and takecare of the world and obama isnt for legalizing even weed but im kool with weed being legal not haronine & hookers
kazooga1234 2 years ago
I do believe that fetus are humans and they should have rights. My view of the government is only to keep our liberties safe. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDNT PROVIDE FOR THE CITIZENS!!! THAT IS SOCIALISM!!
okay well what you were saying about Guantanamo Bay, I'm glad it's closed. But they shouldve closed it and eveything like it. They are just making new facilities in other places, so closing it was pointless....
alphatube0 2 years ago
well then u would think a human is a person also when abortion is illigal more people who r preg die and u think that people should have to pay for the schools and stuff like that to as if we rnt getting a bad enough education as is u siriously have no idea what the government accually pays for u have no idea what anything pays for u r an idiot the government even helps out with healthcare as is if u get rid of taxes like u want 2 then the vets dont have healthcare either
kazooga1234 2 years ago
I NEVER SAID GET RID OF TAXES. And yes if the mother will die I can see and justify an abortion. The income tax is constitutionally illegal and a main point of the communist manifesto. and yes you are right, government run schools do suck.
alphatube0 2 years ago
then that means u like the government paying for stuff there 4 u should hate what ron paul wants to do and if abortion didnt exist more mothers would accually die either A caz the guy who knocked her up will murder her or B they will try to have 1 done illigally and that would kill them if not make them extremely sick but the thing is government run schools dont suck else where just in america and we also spend the most money on r schools and its just caz of the way the teachers get paid
kazooga1234 2 years ago
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taxes also pay for streets buildings and cops and firefighters as well as so many other things that people dont even concider the EPA and the FDA r also needed and they r funded with taxes unless u want to choke on black smoke and die
kazooga1234 2 years ago
yeah, that's cuz yer stupid and have no idea how/why the EPA and FDA operate. He also wants to get rid of the Dept of Education, and I'm all for stopping more brainwashed people like yerself from getting let out on the streets of america. Yer a fuckin' tool.
meshuggahfan 2 years ago
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im not stupid your the one that is stupid for liking him he is a dickshit and mean and to get rid of those thing would be horrible for the people he wants to go back to the past when there was black smoke and he also wants to make prostitution legal and im agenst that and he is a jerk
kazooga1234 2 years ago
@kazooga1234 You know what I'm tired of? I'm tired of making every stupid thing people do illegal. I don't care how stupid people are, if they want to get high, get a prostitute, whatever, go ahead.
In a Ron Paul government businesses will have the right to tell people like that they can't get a job, which is a lot more fitting punishment than me (a taxpayer) having to paying hundreds of government workers to TRY to keep it from happening (and failing).
RicoLen1 2 years ago
@kazooga1234 A government cannot successfully legislate morality, I think that's obvious. And we'd be much better off it we'd stop trying because that's what so much of our taxpayer money goes in to.
Ron Paul wants to make America free again, and stop infringing upon our civil liberties that are supposed to be protected by the Constitution. Our government leaders by and large need to be put out on their ass for misrepresentation and misappropriation of funds.
RicoLen1 2 years ago
he doesnt want to make it free again he wants to get rid of the FDA and EPA so the poor suffer more and he doesnt give a shit about the poor mostly caz they r blacks and he hates minoritys i can prove that and he is just going to keep helping the corporations like every1 else he wouldnt stop the war he just freaking said that and that moron also wants to make prositution legal and thats just fucked up
kazooga1234 2 years ago
Are you sure that's WHY he wants to do all these things. I'd love to get rid of the FDA and EPA, the IRS, the DMV, social security, you name it. I'd like to see prostitution legal, drugs legalized, and abortion legal. But for the exact opposite reasons you claim he has. Some people just know how to look past the short term and look at the long term effects.
RicoLen1 2 years ago
I'd like to see people free to make their own choices and when they make bad ones, suffer the consequences they deserve, and when they make the right ones, not have to give all their hard earned rewards over to the government who says (falsely) that they deserve a cut.
RicoLen1 2 years ago
yes i am there is nothing good that will come to going back to black smoke and having that kill people and also i am sorry it took me so long to reply to this i am watching a 24 hour live show and watching it all and have been up for about 18 hours without sleep
kazooga1234 2 years ago
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Ph0Steve 1 year ago
well its true if u get rid of the EPA and FDA thats exactly what would happen thats y they where made in the first place go look it up and if u find it funny that people have choked on black smoke then u r a horrible person
kazooga1234 1 year ago
and bout that lieing study y is it that there r even some republicans saying global warming is real
kazooga1234 2 years ago
kazooga, yer a fucking dumbass. Ron paul is a dumbass? Really, so a Medical Doctor that delivered more than 3,000 babies in his medical career as an MD is a dumbass? He also spent a good part of his career shoving guts back into wounded soldiers in Vietnam. So before you open yer yapping pie hole, you should listen twice as much first, since that's what yer creator gave you, use them accordingly. How you find yer car at the mall when yer done shopping for turds is beyond me.
meshuggahfan 2 years ago 24
lol... well said meshuggahfan, well said. Kazooga is a brain washed turd. Ron Paul/ Jesse Ventura 2012
mrlemonbreath 2 years ago
im not brain washed u morons r caz in a few of ron pauls speaches he said he wanted to get rid of the EPA and FDA and that wouldnt lead to any good what so ever he wants things to back to how they where in the past as if the past was so wonderful well news flash it wasnt wonderful it was horrible
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Shut up fool... go tell people who actually care about moronic statements. You've hit a brick wall with me. We need a president with testicular fortitude... a man like RON PAUL OR JESSE VENTURA IN 2012
mrlemonbreath 1 year ago
im not a fool i can prove what im saying and ron paul could never be president to many people used to have the news paper artles that where racist and the news letters and those people are still alive the problem is if they wherent members of the KKK or other racist groups they just threw them out my aunt used to get them but she tossed them out the moment she got them caz they where fucking horrible just like ron paul is for wanting to get rid of the EPA and FDA
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Ron Paul doesn't want the EPA or FDA to be regulated by the government, they have no part in mothering the country. Just because those groups wouldn't be considered part of the government doesn't mean that they couldn't exist... Ron Paul believes in the responsibility being placed in the right hands.. the citizens..
Ph0Steve 1 year ago
no he said get rid of the EPA and FDA i have a link to prove that and we cant get rid of them and if its not gov regulated then more people will die thats what isnt understood is that the gov is the one that stops people from being hurt that is y we r having so many problems with the health care system caz its corpate owned that is y every other country lives longer then us and i dont think that it should be just gov owned or just corp owned i think people should have a choise if they want gov
kazooga1234 1 year ago
or if they want to have it corporate owned i dont trust either but i do trust the gov over any corp caz the corporations just want money when the government is working correctly they want to help out the people and corporations will go back to using black smoke if the EPA is gone
if u want proof that ron paul said get rid of the EPA and FDA just let me no
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Tell me, how does having an EPA and FDA that is being controlled by politicians who are brought by lobbyist money good for the public? Getting rid of this departments will enable the free market to put drug and environmental protection in the right priorities.
98wongjf 1 year ago
caz the EPA and FDA are not controlled by politcians they are not bought by the lobbyist they just need the government to fund them so they can work properly and it is needed so people dont get sick like what was happening when bush was president caz he didnt fund it at all he pretty much got rid of the EPA and FDA and we went on to canadas standers and people where still getting sick and all u heard on the news was this toy is poisioned that toy is poisioned people got ecoilie from food
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Even with the FDA, people have died. In a free market with no FDA, the victim's family will be able to take these phrama companies to court and sue them for all they're worth. FDA actually PROTECTED these phrama from being sue by the general public by saying their drug meets their standards. You need to see deeper into this to understand why the FDA needs to go.
98wongjf 1 year ago
That is only when the FDA is broken like when bush was president and it wasnt funded but the FDA is the reason that they have child proof caps on med bottles and the FDA has made sure that people dont get sick as much at least yes there r some drugs that have bad side effects that r found out later and the FDA decides its to dangerious to keep them around so they pull the drug but without the FDA those drugs wouldnt be pulled and the EPA did a hell of a lot for where i live with the water
kazooga1234 1 year ago
You might think FDA did all that but I can honestly tell you, child proof caps and med bottles would've happened with or without the FDA. Have you seen the latest drug commercials? Notice how it always end with "Side effects include...." FDA did very little to stop these drugs from being in the market. But how many good drugs FDA stopped because the company can't pay for the lobby. And people would've stopped buying bad drugs, you don't need the FDA to pull them out.
98wongjf 1 year ago
right caz people have frivilous law suits and its not the pharma places fault if the people dont like the drugs they bought its either A the doctors fault for giving the wrong presctiption or B the FDAs fault for not catching all the side effects caz if some1 gets an elergic reaction to a med then people would go and sue the phramacys and it wasnt there fault that some1 just happened to have an elergic reaction when it wasnt anybodys fault
kazooga1234 1 year ago
That is why we have judges so law suits will not be won by those who just want money.
Basically, what you're really saying is that normal people is so stupid that they couldn't take care of themselves, that without the FDA, people will still buy drugs that kills. Well if that's the case, why not let the government wake you up? Brush your teeth? Tell you what car to drive? Tell you what clothes to wear?
98wongjf 1 year ago
well the thing is that u cant take on big things like the state and thats y the FDA and EPA is there and why we need tort reform a good tort reform so people dont sue the doctors caz then their insurance goes up even if they win and with the tourt reform it would be who ever wins gets their court fees paid for them and the thing is with the FDA people r dieing less from the drugs and having less problems and its not that the government is running everything thats y they wont tell u what to ware
kazooga1234 1 year ago
I agree tort reform is needed in the US, but I also believe that if the law suit is baseless, that it will get thrown out. However if the doctor's insurance still gets increased even if he wins the law suit, then that's wrong.
I disagree that people are dying less with the FDA because there simply isn't any evidence to support that. In fact, there is evidence to support that despite FDA, drugs are not only bad, but more costly. Bad not because they kill, but because they don't work.
98wongjf 1 year ago
and things like that its caz we have freedom but the governments job is to make sure that the people living in the country are safe and getting the help that they need that is why we need a public option to make sure that the people who r sick rnt dropped from the insurance company and can live caz living isnt a privlage its a right and that is y doctors dont turn people away caz they cant and that is y people r paying for illigal immagrants right now who r sick
kazooga1234 1 year ago
"the governments job is to make sure that the people living in the country are safe" - Does that mean you supported the Patriot Act? If you do then I'll leave it there but if you don't, that will mean you are contradicting your believes.
98wongjf 1 year ago
no because that went up agaisnt the constitution and made us less safe all sastics say so u can say that something will keep u safe but just caz u say that doesnt make it true now i can prove that the patriot act made us less safe but the FDA and EPA makes us safer and the public option will also and that is y when bush was president everything was at a fail and the government wasnt doing its job there wasnt an EPA or a FDA we where forced to go on to canadas standers when bush was president
kazooga1234 1 year ago
I would very much like to see your evidence of how Patriot Act makes you less safe. I don't think the Patriot Act has any effect making USA more or less safe. It's just a lame duck act to me, but I don't support the Patriot Act because it is against the constitution and I don't support the FDA for the same reason. I don't know why one is okay while the other is not.
98wongjf 1 year ago
are u kidding me it makes us compeletly less safe i will send u the PM with something telling u so since u seem to want it
kazooga1234 1 year ago
I honestly believe that the US foreign policies do more to make people less safe then that Patriot Act ever will. If the US is in danger of another attack, it will be because of its foreign policy. If there's something in the PA similar to that effect, then I'd agree with you.
98wongjf 1 year ago
well i dont no much about the foreign policies to be exact but the patriot act does make people less safe and i wouldnt doubt that the foreign policies could be fixed up caz there r a lot of things that could be fixed but the fact that americans pay more in health care then any other country and dont live nearly as long there has to be something messed up with that and the government is supposed to help out the people in the country its supposed to keep the corporations in check
kazooga1234 1 year ago
"supposed to keep the corporations in check" - but that's the exact reason why we don't want the FDA. The FDA is a corporation controlled entity disguised as a government agency. When corporations get into trouble they run to the FDA for help. If government is not involved, the consumer's purchasing power can actually force these corporations to be in line.
98wongjf 1 year ago
The FDA is part of the reasons why US citizens pay more in health care. FDA only allow certain drugs to be sold in the US and restricting supply of drugs and thereby driving the prices up. FDA in turn created mini monopolies for certain drugs with the pharma companies and you get higher prices.
98wongjf 1 year ago
your wrong without the FDA and EPA more people would be getting sick and that would mean higher premiums and its the corporations that make it so we pay more for health care every other country does single payer so y is it that we r dieing quicker then almost ever other country it doesnt make sense cept for that fact that the other countrys have their government protecting them
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Again, I don't see any evidence that the FDA has improved the drug quality. Case in point, wasn't it a couple of years ago that we have a big heart drug causing complication deaths? Also, wasn't it not too long ago that there was another drug suspecting to cause suicide of those who take them?
98wongjf 1 year ago
As someone who had lived in Canada for most of my life, I can tell you that Universal health care sounds good in theory, but if I was a millionaire, I'd go to the US to get my healthcare service in a heart beat. My father had a heart condition for nearly 10 years before he died, but the Canadian health system did NOTHING to cure him. My brother who's a doctor in Canada said that Canadian health system is based on 'maintaining the status quo of patients'.
98wongjf 1 year ago
well i no lots of people who live in health care and say it has gotten better and that they wouldnt want a health care system like america i am accually not 100% for single payer i just think its better then the shit we have right now i think the best way to go is with a public option where people can choose if they want the gov to take care of them or not not something forced upon them and no mandate so if u dont want any health care plan at all u dont have to have it and u can keep what u have
kazooga1234 1 year ago
i just think that it isnt fair that every1 gets treated for the health care problems they have for the most part but then have to go bankrupt or have to suffer and choose to die to maintain there familys life style caz they cant afford the health care bill the public option if done correctly will make it so everybody has some sort of insurance if they want it if u r like rush limbaugh and can pay your own then im fine with that but if u cant pay your own then u have insurance and it should be
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Well, like I said, Hong Kong has a very efficient public option system. But the difference is, Hong Kong has a population of 7 million and The United States has a population of 300 million. It is much more challenging to manage from a Federal level.
Maybe such system can be implemented on a more local level.
98wongjf 1 year ago
well if we have the corps under control then it would work and it has to be written well for it to work yes we have a lot of people in the population but it would still be better then what we have now and we could at least try it i mean if single payer isnt a good system then y r they living longer then the people in america that is what doesnt make sense to me and i dont think it would be the best system for america caz america is based off of choise if people dont want it they shouldnt pay 4it
kazooga1234 1 year ago
I don't think there's any argument that there needs to be a change in the health care front the difference lies in how it is being changed. The public option is one method but it does bring up the issue of 'Can US government afford it?"
I would much prefer the 'Tax' method. Allow insurance companies the ability to get tax break if they offer affordable insurance w/o pre-existing condition clauses and allow tax deduction on health care expenses for low income families.
98wongjf 1 year ago
the government wont be paying for it its for the people who want it as if it was another insurance company and that is if it is done like that and correctly then yes it should work but with the 2 shit bills that r out right now it wont work and all the government needs to do is take money away from the places that rnt using the money correctly instead of taking it from medicare and medicade then things would be better also but the republicans want it to be taken from medicare and medicade
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Here lies the problem. You said that it's the people who want it sure. The people who don't want it still needs to pay because the government will use their tax dollar, so part of their taxes will be use to fund this public option. Does that not violate their right to refuse? Don't forget, their rights should be protected as well. I'm sure you wasn't too thrill about having your tax dollar spent on the war.
98wongjf 1 year ago
And the reason why the bills have become shit is because they are being pulled in every direction. Everyone is trying to get what they want from the bill and the government must represent them. It's like you want steak, one want vegetarian, and another want see food, at the end, you all get mud in a bowl. Wouldn't it better if government provide you, the individual, incentives to cook your own steak so you will fully get what you want?
98wongjf 1 year ago
ya i hate that the republicans water them down so much and then didnt even vote on them but i guess its better then them voting on the watered down versions the democrats had a strong bill at one point that could have passed but once obama wanted bipartisin votes on the bill it couldnt pass the democrats didnt vote on it caz it was to weak and the republicans didnt vote on it caz they dont want anything to happen cept things stay how they r and the gov could let us cook our own steaks but wont
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Believe it or not, this is why I support Ron Paul. You can't get anything done right with the government. Because it needs to represent all sides and more often then not, the sides conflicts. That is why I believe the private sector can do a better job at providing affordable healthcare. Because you, as someone who wants this, can build the system to what you like while ignoring other things that you don't believe in. Government can't do that.
98wongjf 1 year ago
Throughout this health care debate, I hear both side claiming "The People wants....". Well, I'm sure anyone can play with the numbers to support their narrative but the issue isn't with just what the people want. It's 'what are we going to do with the other people'. We can't service the majority at the expense of the minority, whatever their sides maybe because if that's the case, then the US might as well be ruled by a single party.
98wongjf 1 year ago
well i think a lot of that has to do with the information that people are getting i mean a lot of them that dont want this think that the public option is manditory and not really an option and others think that the bills out right now r public options and i think what has to happen is people to understand that its only an option not manditory if the public option gets into a bill and all the polls that i have seen the majority of people want the public option even in the badly written polls
kazooga1234 1 year ago
I think there are some legit concerns as well. Cost being one of them. And I'm not talking about the cost of operating the system, I'm referring to the cost of planning and implementing. The only way the government can fund the building of the public option is to borrow again. I think you'll have to agree that the debt is a legit concern in the US, and with the debt being where it is at today, you must ask whether this is a good time to spend even more.
98wongjf 1 year ago
well the thing about the public option is that it isnt something that we have to go on so if it isnt up to par then nobody has to use it and the public option can go away if it doesnt do what its supposed to do as well unlike single payer and it would get rid of the deficate not add to it so it will help take the debt down
kazooga1234 1 year ago
I understand your point but that would mean that the tax money have gone to waste which will piss off those who are opposing it now even more and give us the "I told you so" argument. :)
The bottom line is, any government spending in health care reform, be it public option or alternative method, will mean violating the rights and believes of a group of tax payers.
98wongjf 1 year ago
well not nessisary caz from what i understand is that people will be paying for the public option like its another insurance company and insurance companys would do just fine even if they took everybody with pre existing conditions and didnt drop anybody caz there was an insurance company that did that at 1 point and they where still making a lot of money not in the millions but in the hundred thousands so as long as people pay for the public option we shouldnt have a problem
kazooga1234 1 year ago
No no, you're missing my point.
I'm referring to the cost of setting up the system. Like the cost of setting up a business. Sure, when the public option is up and running, those who don't want it don't have to use it. But their tax dollars have been used by the government to set up the system
98wongjf 1 year ago
i understand what u r saying now and that explains the gov having the FED be incharge of the public option since they do whatever they want with money pretty much but they also where thinking about some other ways of having the public option work i no one was use it like buy into medicare or medicade but i dont how they r going to set it up or anything they had a few ideas about that nothing stuck caz the public option kept dieing i hope they do it like a buy in thing then set up something new
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 THEY PRINT MONEY AT WILL on FA reserves THE MONEY MASTER a must for all descent ppl who love justice them criminals have screwed up your once Great country the whole world admired the most n turned it into the most hated country for their OWN benefit its THEM the world hates not u guys also google WHO OWNS all mainstream us news Media poisoning amerian minds with BS lies for theor OWN agenda
polygamous1 1 year ago
@polygamous i accually forgot i posted on i am not completely for the FED i agree audit the FED dont get rid of it caz then it would be harder to track downt he private corps it would turn into and i accually now found and no matter what money is going to get printed i just think that printed money should have to go through a process to get printed and
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@polygamous1 not whenever the FED feels like it now if a private corp was running it even more money would prob be printed then it is now and who would be able to track that money down
kazooga1234 1 year ago
also it will lower the insurance companys rates so people dont have to struggle to pay for insurance from another company and that will help out also even if the deficate doesnt get paid off so i dont c the public option as a raising taxes thing
kazooga1234 1 year ago
i think what needs to me done about the minority is make sure they rnt paying for the public option in any way shape or form so no mandate and let people like rush limbaugh pay for their own medical bills if they want to and then for the people who still dont want it that wont make sense caz its mean for the people who need it and they r prob rich and just trying to help out the corporations and that wont help any1 caz u cant please every1 some people prob want to live in a capalist country
kazooga1234 1 year ago
There is no way a government system can do that. Don't forget, it's not just the bill of having to go to the doctor. Just by setting up such a system requires money - Building the hospital, having the proper registration, hiring staff...all these are cost that needs to be spent before the system is in place. Government can't do that without using 'everyone' money - Even those who don't want the option.
98wongjf 1 year ago
affordable so u rnt going bankrupt trying to stop yourself from going bankrupt or for the people who do the responicble thing and get some insurance and then find out its better if they didnt have any at all caz others would have paid for them thats not right either i also think with affordable insurance then it will give people more of a chance to do something with there life then be on welfare caz right now its better to be on welfare then be in the middle class caz if u r on welfare u have
kazooga1234 1 year ago
free medical care for your entire family but if u r in the middle class u r struggling to pay for medical expences and trying to live on a budget without going bankrupt and thats extremely hard to do
kazooga1234 1 year ago
but at the same time, I do not dare to argue with you regarding the public option because I've since moved back to Hong Kong and have actually see it working well. In HK, there are privately run hospital and government run hospitals. People get to choose. Of course, Gov't run hospital are cheaper but of lesser quality but still, I rate it above the Canadian system. So I guess my only argument is that HK is a city, not a country so I am sceptically in favour of the public option.
98wongjf 1 year ago
i didnt know that about hong kong but that explains why they live longer then the people in america and that is one problem i have with ron paul is that he is against the public option and there is no need for him to be and he is also against womens rights and the EPA and FDA they get to me a lot with him caz i have read how life was like before the EPA and FDA and it was horrible
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Well, let me correct you there about him being against women's rights because I've heard this argument against Ron Paul a few times. Ron Paul is a faith Christian and as such he has personally taken a Pro-Life position. However, he has on numerous occasion said that the constitution does not give federal government any powers to dictate how people should live their lives. He would prefer to have the state or a even more local government make those decision, which ever it may be.
98wongjf 1 year ago
I think if you look closely at the history of the FDA, you'll find that it's record of protecting people is not all that impressive. One well documentated case: /watch?v=tcjzdoiL0j4 (although more about Fox news)
98wongjf 1 year ago
well the stuff i have known about before there was an EPA and FDA things where bad and i no the EPA did a lot for my home town we used to not be able to drink the water and if we did we got sick and everyday there was about 3 or 4 people sick from my school caz u cant avoid the water even when it was filtered it wasnt enough and i am sure the FDA has done a lot more then people relize
kazooga1234 1 year ago
To be perfectly honest...I don't disagree with everything you say. I'm sure FDA has done its share of good. My position is that these 'good' would've happened with or without the FDA. Personally, I don't have a problem with keeping the FDA if it is simply a recommendation agency, not a regulating agency. I think the FDA would be better served acting like a 'seal of approval' type of agency instead of 'regulators', if you know what I mean.
98wongjf 1 year ago
just so u no ron paul is a fucking dumbass caz what u r saying is true but i bet u didnt no that that moron doesnt believe in evolution and that means that he shouldnt be a doctor if he cant even believe in that and it shows he still has old ways of thinking and he is still a racist caz of it
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@meshuggahfan yes and he is a racist the proof is now looking at his son at least his son is honest about being a racist but his son had to learn racist motives from some1 and it was his father now u cant find enough proof for most people in the articles that r posted online but if u r smart u would c that rand is just like ron and they r both dumbasses who want to make it so people dont have equal rights
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 i would like a link to any proof ron or rand are racist
mrjon75 1 year ago
@mrjon75 alright i have it give me a second to give u the link i will send it in a PM he talks about how he is fine spilting up black and whites into different bathrooms and stuff if its in a private place and stuff and in the link i am going to find u will c that isnt possible caz its like what if the building is public but the bathrooms r private then we will be back when racism was worse then it is now
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 more than 1 month ago, still waiting on that link..... ANd yer not going to find it, because he's not racist.... Homo troll alert, homo troll alert.
meshuggahfan 1 year ago
@meshuggahfan i sent it i will resend if u need me to but i sent u the links that prove that rand is a racist and he learnt it from ron
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 k i resent the links and racism is learnt so what i just showed u proves that rand is a racist and the way he learnt how to be a racist is from ron paul and i have news articles of ron pauls that r racist if you need them as well
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 LOL, you can't say that ron paul taught someone to be a racist..... That's just outlandish; and really you're just splitting hairs now on the bandwagon that is "the armchair skeptic." Jog on! :-D
meshuggahfan 1 year ago
@meshuggahfan well accually since rand is his son yes i can its caz racism is taught in family and i can prove that with the articals that ron paul had in his new letters and stuff so u cant denine that they r both racists
kazooga1234 1 year ago