@teevanator- The West Bank chose Hamas. Hamas is a Tehrani puppet. Tehran is on record stating their goal is the destruction of Israel and the US. I'm not about to support that. I don' t care what form of government you call it. Unless the Palestinians give up terror they get nothing. Only death as Tehran's pawns.
There should be a qualifying tag line to the title, namely that it is in regards to Obama's foreign policy, NOT his domestic policy. A very crucial distinction that might allude some viewers.
@bernlin2000- you refer to the proposed 'single-State solution'. Might as well cakl it ' final solution'. The Palestinians chode Hamas as leadership, Hamas is a Tehran puppet, Tehran is committed to the destruction of Israel. AND America.
@AmericansforFreeIran Because America is the so called "home of democracry"? Ever heard of Woodrow Wilson's right to National Self Determination? Fucking brilliant in my opinion but you know American's don't want that if it's not in their interest. Palestinian statehood does not equal Iranian obliteration of the US and Israel. It equals the same supposed freedoms you peddle on a daily basis, but fail to support. Democracy for all, not just the West. That is why Americans should support Palestine
To be fair, he's struggling against a political atmosphere that gives no acknowledgement of the right of Palestinians to have their own country: Americans simply don't respect the rights of Palestinians, and that's continually reflected in our politics. His rhetoric has certainly been tougher on Israel, but our actions have been far weaker than should be acceptable, but they're accepted nevertheless. It's a product of our national identity as a "Judeo-Christian nation.
@mobilechief- it just pisses me off that sick freaks post idiotic crap like that and Google does nothing. This is supposed to be a kid- safe site. I wouldn't want my kids reading this pervert's crap.
I feel sorry for the guy who's username the freak imitated- he used to post some good stuff. But I don't blame him if he gave up. This freak needs his ass whipped.
Not doubt Bush was bad, so to think that Obama was worse is pretty bad. Obama clearly has been a spearhead of the Establishment/NWO and has gotten away with far too much.
Every time a real debate is attempted, the moron that imitates usernames shows up with a bunch of gay innuendo and stupid ramblings. Aren't there community guidelines forbidding this?
i'm sick and tired of this old motherfucker. all he does is sucking the dicks of Communist tyrants like Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez; if he hates capitalism so much....why the fuck does he live in the US?? Go live to Cuba or Venezuela, you old piece of shit.
@haarez1-you veer quickly into disrespect; so I shall coarsen my reply.
Symposia are not primers on evidentiary proces verbal. As to the latter, the evidentiary burden is on accuser, not accused.
Thus, I demonstrate: I say you fellate dogs. Can you prove you don't? Of course not- you can't prove a negative. So the burden is upon me; else it is mere hearsay. Go to Tehran. You will be seized and accused of being CIA. Evidence? They don't care. Just like the hikers, just like the ex- Marine.
@MrTemplarLeonem You're right, the onus should have been on your high school educators to teach you some critical thinking skills. Symposia are not the right place for that, and it shows.
@haarez1- I'll have you know I attended a symposium on Iran policy this weekend in DC, not my first, and my area of expertise is history and geopolitics. You overreach yourself in questioning my acumen.
The incident you refer is well- known to all. Tehran claims it was the work of Mossad, or MeK, or both- depending on which press release. No evidence, naturally.
If you want to know if Tehrani propagandists are lying, just look to see if their lips are moving.
@MrTemplarLeonem It was obviously a case of mass suicide of nuclear scientists. This period of the year is pretty gloomy in Teheran, everyone's feeling in the dumps.
Oh, silly silly me to involve the Mossad!
Maybe the symposium didn't teach you to demand evidence for the assertions of both sides?
@shining3210- Chomksky's much- vaunted-by-his-devotees' geopolitical acumen is remarkably myopic in this regard.
He consistantly ignores the proxy status of Hamas, Hezbollah, Mahdi Army, Al Queda, and Taliban vis-a-vis Iran. Israel has nen under one form of atack or another by Iran for the ladt 30 years- most recently, the Thailand incident.
Iran also spends millions yearly for the same anti-US, anti-Israel, anti-Iranian insurgent (MeK) propaganda as espoused by liberal luminaries like Chomsky.
@MrTemplarLeonem You should get a bit more informed. Start researching the terrorist assassination of Iranian scientists by Israeli intelligence agents.
@MrTemplarLeonem Yea the stupid communist, also met with terrorists leaders in lebanon, the far left should all migrate to north korea. All their dreams and ideas were already implemented there..
@shining3210 It's actually the Netanyahu government that's been refusing to sign a peace treaty with a Palestinian state while using every imaginable dirty trick to continue the illegal expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
Again, go past the official propaganda and do your research.
One COULD posit that YOUR argument is racist, based upon your direct statements, rather than your method of exigization.
I do not have any regard for the opinionated proclamations of Chomsky, and care nothing for his critique of BHO. But opposition to this admin. needs no racist motivation- his policies, both foreign and domestic, are laughably inept.
BHO is obviously fatlr better at campaigning than he is at actually doing the job.
He's right. Obama also signed NDAA, ordered the extra-judicial killing of an American citizen in Yemen, extended the Bush tax cuts, introduced a Heritage Foundation-devised health care reform, re-confirmed the Patriot Act.
Seriously, Obama is second only to W Bush in his erosion of fundamental civil liberties in America.
I usually like Chomsky's observations, but this is probably one of his weakest arguments I've ever seen. It all seems to boil down to "He didn't do everything I think he should have," which is disappointing, sure, but making him worse than Bush? Ridiculous.
Too bad Noam Chomsky is already 83, and I only started reading his material a few years ago. I wish this man would live for at least another 100 years. We need more people like him. Too bad that's a dying breed. Thank you for posting this video.
Bush had a fantastic economy. He owed no one. Obama inherited a terrible economy. He has to grease many more palms. Ergo, you cant really blame him. For what he wanted to do he has to owe many many more favours.
Obamas mother was a Jewess look at her pictures if you dont believe me, Tony Blair is a noted zionist he's stated many times in parliment while everyone watched the demonstrations he moved britains gold reserves to the zionist bankers, didn't you wonder why he was so loyal to bush thats why Britains is broke, what would that gold be worth now ?
this guy jst made the weakest argument ever about y obama is worse than bush lmao its never bin more clear as i read all the stupidity and look at all the videos white ppl cant stand the fact that a nigga is in the seat lmao. god is great. racism is alive and america loves it lol this world is doomed and we only have ourselves to blame
@CobinRain That demonstration in London was really more of a party than a protest (I was there). I wouldn't read that much into the lack of a reaction.
Americans would of had it worse up the ass if a republican federal gov won last election.
Obamas a pussycat making deals with the powers , signing some of their shit so he gets some of his. Bad way to do it cuz you end up looking like the enemy.
He's dealing with wealth and power we can only try hard to imagine. He could end up dead. I dont know who you guys should vote for next, but please dont vote for some religious guy.
While I agree with Chomsky, I can't help thinking what a strange turn things have taken- just imagine a teabagger using Noam Chomsky for their case against President Obama...
What I don't know is of no consequence. What I DO know is the difference between real geopolitical awareness and stupidly adhering to an agenda hopelessly bigoted against US interests- such as Chomsky's.
@69Poonhunter more so than obama yes but honest lol? it doesn't matter who you vote for you still get the same "elite" government in power,like the guy said under you is spot on their just puppits that's all folks "ah how i love the american "dream" because you have to be asleep to believe it".
lol i remember chomsky asking people to vote Obama at the time of the election (skeptically, as a better option than Mccain). i think his memory is slipping OR he should in future be more sensible and not ask people to play the stupid political game, voting for obviously terrible choices on the basis of them being less terrible.
@momintheweedzone Your is a typical "dumb" American response. Stop watching TV. Many people voted for Obama because they believed his rhetoric, and later were dissatisfied with what he actually did, Sherlock! I hate seeing idiot responses as yours, illogical.
@teddythebenny You're absolutely right. You can see this, especially with the UN, as we bypassed everyone when we went to war in '03. Unilateral policy is the enemy (as funded by the IMF for US purposes, etc.), and the presidents are merely the practitioners of this policy.
@SFO14 I think his point is that every president, from Truman onward, can be tried for War Crimes. His point is that we ought not think Obama is exempt merely because he has advocated ending the war in Iraq; he's as guilty as Bush, but for different reasons.
how could Obama be tried for War Crimes, but not Bush with his "preemptive strikes" or Clinton using NATO to bomb Serbia back to the stone age, or any other US president for that matter?
@SFO14 the sale and use of depleted uranium, and natural uranium ordinance to middle eastern countries, as well as a great deal of arms market by the US and America, and whoever else, has a large military industrial complex. WHO is owned by the US as well.. They used depleted uranium shells/ordinance in the balkans, gulf wars, middle east..
obama is a fraud, the court in georgia will say so, he is a usurper and you know what, the american people deserve it because they are blind and like sheep, they flocked to obama like sheep to the slaughter, now obama wanted change and USA has it, NDAA (indefinet deterntion.No lawyer, no charge!, no time limit), Fema camps, Redention stations, 16 trillion in debt and no way out, my god, USA = Undeniably,Stupid,Assholes.
Obama never said he would immediately end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. An Chomsky's conjecture that our presence is making the situation in Pakistan worse does not even consider the consequence of an quick withdrawal of troops. This is the kind of style Chomsky loves to use in debates. Pepper people with facts and some good points, and then make questionable assertions but state them as fact.
@dionusos2 What consequence? There are no legitimate consequences of ending a war with an immediate withdraw. We JUST walked in so we can JUST walk out.
@dionusos2 Obama did say that he would terminate the Iraq war promptly. He chose to extend it beyond even Bush's timetable for withdrawal but the Iraqis rejected it. On Afghanistan he was more hawkish, but he did say that his election would usher in an era of diplomacy over war. Instead he's tripled the rate of drone attacks under Bush in Pakistan and Yemen, assassinated Iranian scientists and launched multiple new wars in Libya and Uganda that collapse on forensic examination.
This is from 2010 as he states he was only in office 2 years. Chomsky is not an idiot but he is a suck up to anyone he thinks is an underdog and generalizes to no end. Obama is not worse then the bush family, let alone Cheney and haliburton along with the bin ladens. Bottom line is he understands the USA well but he never goes to all the places he also thinks he does so he does not know what is happening on the ground. I understand not playing to political games but he must do more then talk.
@jonny7748 Whether or not Chomsky is on the ground is irrelevant with respect to his statements about Barack Obama being held to Neuremburg principles.
Barack Obama campaigned on closing Guantanamo Bay, yet he signed a bill that will keep it open forever. He campaigned on upholding the rule of law, yet he signed a bill on New Years Eve that opens the door for Americans to be imprisoned without trial as long as they are terror suspects. He's a president of the status quo. Not change.
@GambitFox79 He's worse than average. The treatment Obama enabled to be inflicted on Bradley Manning for his heroic commitment to the truth about war is tantamount to torture. Even Nixon didn't dare to do the same to Ellsberg.
@Haarez1 Moron, the settlements sit on 2% of the west bank, never there were preconditions to negotiations, netanyahoo stoped people from building rooms for their chidlren for 10 months, and was something no government ever done, and the arabs still refused to negotiate. Move to north korea, and spare me your communist propoganda. Go tell that crap to a suicide bomber friend of yours or something.
@pratto54321 You are putting the man who can't even speak up for himself, on a pedestal for what reason? How many languages does he speak that he understands so many cultures so well? How many has he come to know in intimate detail? Might want to look that up. He put Howard Zinn above himself, so what was Zinn?
You think Chromsky is crazy? Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one. You are certainly entitled to yours. Bt be careful, there is a fine line between making total sense and being crazy. Sometimes the crazies see things much more clearly.
I love the way Noam Chomsky tells it how it is, much to the surprise of the interviewer. Sadly, there seems to be little dialogue amongst Americans, at least amongst the ones I have met, which reflects what he talks about. If there was more critique within the USA Im sure it would be a greater country than it already is.
And to think my country Australia voted with the evil US Obama fascists (& a few South Seas Island states) against the UN declaration on the illegality of Israeli settlements in the West Bank...pewkworthy......even worse is the fact that US Middle East policy is supported by both major political parties in Australia.....I'm ashamed to show my Aussie passport...
Is BBC in a coma? God! Doesn't the international media even read before it conducts an interview? Are the British as asleep as the people in the United States?
@tapolna Paxman is adversarial, confrontational and incredibly well educated. You shouldn't make assumptions based on how he appears from a three minute clip.
@tapolna well actually the answer to your second question is yes...the people in britain are as "asleep" as the people in US...but i find it sad that you have to even ask that....it is all of western society
@tapolna The BBC is better than every major television news outlet in the US including PBS, but they are still a product of the British Corporate State.
@syntaxed2 Hey, I'm a Brit. We have The Guardian, better than any outlet in the US... Even the BBC is better than any outlet in the US, as at least it's not directly controlled by corporate giants..
@syntaxed2 More than one million British People marched through the streets of London in the months before the attack on Iraq. One Million. I think it was the largest demonstration ever held in this country. And it was ignored by Blair. Blatant. The truth is that the British Government is in the pocket of the Americans; we are little more than a sateliite of the US. So: a question for you: how much support did the Kremilin have in say, Poland, in the 1970s? Exactly.
@oggfish Reminds me of an excellent artice, the Cardboard Lotharios. :) Give it a read, it's long but very worth it and it talks about that precise thing. wwwDOTveteranstodayDOTcom/2010/06/17/gordon-duff-the-cardboard-lotharios/
@oggfish Reminds me of an excellent artice, the Cardboard Lotharios. :) Give it a read, it's long but very worth it and it talks about that precise thing. wwwDOTveteranstodayDOTcom/2010/06/17/gordon-duff-the-cardboard-lotharios/
@oggfish Reminds me of an excellent artice, the Cardboard Lotharios. :) Give it a read, it's long but very worth it and it talks about that precise thing. GOOGLE gordon duff the cardboard lotharios
Obama is the first Black president of the USA, and also the first US president to officially sponsor and fund racist lynch mobs, who hung and mutilated Black people on the streets of Libya.
Was this interview taken when it was uploaded in March 10th, 2011? Cause I'd be just the slight bit interested if Noams views weren't in any way changed by the killing of Osama Bin Laden who died March 2th, 2011.
Killing the leader of a small terrorist organization that reportedly has core members numbering in only the hundreds and not the thousands who is literally the equivalent of Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984 minus quite a few force multipliers shouldn't change anyones opinion on how Obama has severely curtailed and limited our constitutional rights. Nothing changed when Bin-Laden died.
President Obama began his criminal career by bombing Pakistan. Already during his first year as president ordered the Nobel laureate Obama more bombings with the pilot loose bombers, drones, than President Bush throughout his tenure.
The USA is the only superpower on the planet and whom the Americans make President will affect the rest of us. The depressing thing is that even the American electorate do not have a real choice as they will be forced to choose between only two people who will each support Israel's persecution of the Palestinians and the further destabilization of the Middle East.
Ron Paul is an advocate of libertarian capitalism, the completely opposite position that Noam Chomsky takes as an anarcho-syndalist. If you like Chomsky, you shouldn't be backing Paul.
@Jaygull That's correct but it's not. Ron Paul is essentially the candidate with the most similarities to Chomsky at the moment. Obama might be slightly social-democratic, but every single good thing he'll try to bring to the table would get shot down. His foreign policy is terrible to boot. He completely disagrees with him on a multitude of issues, it's pretty apparent, but he also supports him on many issues as well.
Well said Noam. We soooo need Ron Paul to save America if not the world. Since Wall Street owns our news media were all going to have to work together. We can do it!!! Stay strong brothers & sisters..... Love & Peace for FREEDOM= Ron Paul 2012
Harris speaks nonsense, bigotry, and emprical falsehoods that would make anyone remotely familiar with the topics he speaks on wince. He supports American imperialism and power unquestionably. He promotes Islamophobia and blatant falsehoods against Muslims and Arabs, providing support and justification for mass murder. He excuses Israeli crimes against the Palestinian's, and cites Alan Dershowitz's The Case For Israel as a reliable source. Cries about Iranian nukes, too. Harris is poison.
@Matprithellodave No, my point is that it's clear from Harris's own writings that he has no knowledge of the topics he spews garbage about, does not check sources that contradict the conclusions he already arrived at, and puts barely any critical thought into the subjects he froths about. A man who considers Israel/Palestine a religious conflict, and who believes Islam is a monolith and the source of arab animocity towards the west, is not someone who should be taken seriously against Chomsky.
One need only read Harris's ignorant and empirically false views on the middle east, Islam, and Israel/Palestine. Harris quoted Dershowitz's "The Case For Israel" as a source on Israel/Palestine, a book that plagiarized from another fruad. What, exactly, gives you the idea that a neuroscientist knows more about geopolitical dynamics and the impact of imperialism than a political activist with over five decades of experience?
@theeffinone You're making the mistake of thinking that only the erudite are qualified to make judgement on this kind of thing. You say Harris isn't as knowledgeable as Chomsky and is therefore unfit to comment. If so, then surely you are too. Harris speaks sense, and does a lot of good, and there are others far more worthy of your criticism.
@theeffinone To take what Chomsky says as gospel is a big mistake, and it leads to backwards thinking. People have a right to criticise Chomsky, and to "treat the superior scholar with skepticism when he disagrees with your viewpoints" is surely very necessary, or he will go unchallenged: a bad thing. Otherwise it retards the open discussion which leads to truth.
Chomsky has been very critical of evolutionary psychology for the same reason as Stephen Jay Gould, but if he were to debate one of the four horseman on the topic, it would be Dennet and Dawkins, not Harris and Hitchens.
Anywho, Chomsky is far more well versed on the matters of political dynamics in the middle east, the impact of US foreign policy and hegemony, and a myriad of other topics than Harris could ever dream to be.
I don't believe Chomsky has ever referred to Hitchens and Harris as religious fanactics. His issue with Hitchens is that he's a back stabber, offensive, intellectually dishonest, and a rotten person politically. I'm actually not aware of Chomsky ever acknowleding Harris's critiques, and for good reason. Nobody actually cares about what Sam Harris says, or takes him seriously, except for his fellow positivist cultists.
@TheMadBeach Well, considering Chomsky is the most cited American scholar, and Sam Harris is never cited, I'd say you could only reject Chomsky's views if you reject the scientific method whenever it disagrees with your preconceived notions. However, rejecting the scientific method when it disagrees with your preconceived notions is the reality with most Harrisdrones, so it's not surprising you'll treat the superior scholar with skepticism when he disagrees with your viewpoints.
@ca9109 While I agree with your critiques to a T and your view on Chomsky, I must admit to being confused with your claim that Sam Harris is different than those who you rightfully demonize. From what I've read, Sam Harris is the exact type of person you lament; obsessed with religion (he still writes about a European Caliphate and other Islamophobic canards 10 years after 9/11), a radical positivist, believing the spread of Shariah is everywhere, and supporting the Iraq war.
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Chomsky's default position on any US Foreign Policy action is to be against it, his views on foreign policy are always anti-American. He says very little about the foreign policy of any other country, saying that it's not for him to speak about them, but subsequently fueling an anti-US view. Sadly over the last 15 years there has been a continual fall in Chomsky's interpretation of international affairs & a dereliction of duty not to speak out against actions of other governments or actors.
Chomsky referred to Hitchens and Harris as religious fanatics? Sam Harris? I have listened to hours of lectures and debates of his and he makes complete sense regarding religion, science, and morals. In my humble opinion Chomsky is way out of bounds in this area, so I now take everything Chomsky says with a grain of salt and skepticism.
@TheMadBeach Chomsky merely criticizes the obsession with religion, the problem is not religion it is critical thinking and social institutions.religion is just a nasty byproduct. i think sam harris is awesome because he seems to understands this and treats religion as something to be discussed but not obsessed over. however most people that identify as atheist or anti theist are pathetic thinkers. that is like someone basing their identity on not believing in santa. they tend to be no better
@TheMadBeach (2) than your typical creationist. they merely regurgitate information without any critical analysis. it is more like a power trip for them, they can feel smart and knowledgeable when in reality they come to painfully dumb conclusions ( iraq war,sharia law every where, fall into left right paradigm, resort to radical positivism, rigid concepts of human nature,obama). sam harris is an awesome guy but Chomsky is a legend, obviously you still do research but hes a reliable source.
Obama's presidency was bought and paid for by corporate interests, therefore he must serve their interests. In other words he owes them big time."Change" was his buzz word but nothing's changed. Samo samo.
our beloved Obama !!! How dare he !! Im supposed to hate everyone who disagrees with me per my radical left wing teachings !!! Im confused now... ..Wait Im confused again....Racism ?.
@ZombiBuddy you seem to have the radical left mixed up with anyone of intelligence. People of intelligence dislike Obama because they see him as the controlled corporate puppet that he is.
He has a great point... Now the question is, who should we vote for unstead of Obama?? Rick Perry? Newt? Bachmann? FUCK, THAT, SHIT... I'm gonna vote independent I don't care if I'm the only one.
@ProtectandServe21 Well I was thinking the same damn thing. Does Chomsky think we'll be better off with any of the cretins you just named? And a question for you. What if there is no ind.candidate to vote for or what if he/she turns out to be patently worse than Obama or any of the Repubs? So what will you do in November? Just askin!
@bonusbarclay nah ron paul is just a crazy old racist with really dumb ideas. it's cool that he's talking about important issues like the military industrial complex and the bubble economy but his individualist libertarian philosophy is even worse than the ridiculous system we have now and would concentrate power into the hands of capital even more than our current system does. it would be like the gilded age all over again
@glottis5 the issue of capital inequality is that it is backed by state force. so far a runaway government always bankrupts the citizens and enslaves them to the debt through the coercion of taxes. people don't need control of the capital to prosper since civil society is the hub of production and labor. as those forces stay intact the freedom and prosperity of the people will be preserved. remember, Ron Paul is simply decentralizing power by giving more strength to local governments.
@ProtectandServe21 This same question is worrying me. It is my first opportunity to vote, and I can only feel that voting will confirm my complicity with a system that is promulgating one buffoon after another in the guise of a potential president. its a joke. admittedly i am a bit ignorant but i am not a fool, the veneer of bs that covers each candidate is quite thick to any person
@wingedhussar1 I love Ron Paul but would not vote for him. His economic ideas, although they sound good in theory, ignore 130 years of history. Lets not vote for a man who suggests we put our hand on a hot stove to avoid frostbite. Haven't we been burned buy the free market fairytale too many times already?
@joejoe652 Ron Paul is very mindful of 130 years of history. Just search for this video (World War 3 Funds: Why End The Fed?) on how The Fed Reserve came into being, is dragging our country into financial ruin and why JFK wanted it ended to return our money back to the gold standard.
@wingedhussar1 I appreciate your perspective as I once held the same view. My position has changed for reasons to complex to explain in a post limited to 400 characters. I really need to write a small essay on the misconceptions of the free market and the Keynesian economic system that I could share with others. Since my position has changed from a supporter of Austrian economics, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff and the like, I often run into this dilemma of sharing insights with my fellow citizens.
@teevanator- The West Bank chose Hamas. Hamas is a Tehrani puppet. Tehran is on record stating their goal is the destruction of Israel and the US. I'm not about to support that. I don' t care what form of government you call it. Unless the Palestinians give up terror they get nothing. Only death as Tehran's pawns.
AmericansforFreeIran 17 hours ago
There should be a qualifying tag line to the title, namely that it is in regards to Obama's foreign policy, NOT his domestic policy. A very crucial distinction that might allude some viewers.
brandnutopian 1 day ago
@bernlin2000- you refer to the proposed 'single-State solution'. Might as well cakl it ' final solution'. The Palestinians chode Hamas as leadership, Hamas is a Tehran puppet, Tehran is committed to the destruction of Israel. AND America.
So why should Americans support Palestinians?
AmericansforFreeIran 2 days ago
@AmericansforFreeIran Because America is the so called "home of democracry"? Ever heard of Woodrow Wilson's right to National Self Determination? Fucking brilliant in my opinion but you know American's don't want that if it's not in their interest. Palestinian statehood does not equal Iranian obliteration of the US and Israel. It equals the same supposed freedoms you peddle on a daily basis, but fail to support. Democracy for all, not just the West. That is why Americans should support Palestine
teevanator 17 hours ago
To be fair, he's struggling against a political atmosphere that gives no acknowledgement of the right of Palestinians to have their own country: Americans simply don't respect the rights of Palestinians, and that's continually reflected in our politics. His rhetoric has certainly been tougher on Israel, but our actions have been far weaker than should be acceptable, but they're accepted nevertheless. It's a product of our national identity as a "Judeo-Christian nation.
bernlin2000 3 days ago
Dis is da guy da truth
bhamprince 3 days ago
@mobilechief- it just pisses me off that sick freaks post idiotic crap like that and Google does nothing. This is supposed to be a kid- safe site. I wouldn't want my kids reading this pervert's crap.
I feel sorry for the guy who's username the freak imitated- he used to post some good stuff. But I don't blame him if he gave up. This freak needs his ass whipped.
AmericansforFreeIran 4 days ago
Not doubt Bush was bad, so to think that Obama was worse is pretty bad. Obama clearly has been a spearhead of the Establishment/NWO and has gotten away with far too much.
RamsesReturns 4 days ago
Every time a real debate is attempted, the moron that imitates usernames shows up with a bunch of gay innuendo and stupid ramblings. Aren't there community guidelines forbidding this?
AmericansforFreeIran 4 days ago
@AmericansforFreeIran People like that are not worth anyone's time, ignorance feeds on itself.
mobilechief 4 days ago
i'm sick and tired of this old motherfucker. all he does is sucking the dicks of Communist tyrants like Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez; if he hates capitalism so much....why the fuck does he live in the US?? Go live to Cuba or Venezuela, you old piece of shit.
mazingerZful 4 days ago
@haarez1-your jibe about critical thinking is laughable, considering the confirmation bias-addled syllogisms that is your sorry excuse for argument.
Evidently you know nothing of logic, evidence, or theoretical position.
Social Sciences background, if that, is my guess.
I've taught more promising grade school children.
MrTemplarLeonem 5 days ago
@haarez1-Now if you wish to have me further comminute your arguments, I am always prepared to do so.
MrTemplarLeonem 5 days ago
@haarez1-you veer quickly into disrespect; so I shall coarsen my reply.
Symposia are not primers on evidentiary proces verbal. As to the latter, the evidentiary burden is on accuser, not accused.
Thus, I demonstrate: I say you fellate dogs. Can you prove you don't? Of course not- you can't prove a negative. So the burden is upon me; else it is mere hearsay. Go to Tehran. You will be seized and accused of being CIA. Evidence? They don't care. Just like the hikers, just like the ex- Marine.
MrTemplarLeonem 5 days ago
@MrTemplarLeonem You're right, the onus should have been on your high school educators to teach you some critical thinking skills. Symposia are not the right place for that, and it shows.
Haarez1 5 days ago
@haarez1- I'll have you know I attended a symposium on Iran policy this weekend in DC, not my first, and my area of expertise is history and geopolitics. You overreach yourself in questioning my acumen.
The incident you refer is well- known to all. Tehran claims it was the work of Mossad, or MeK, or both- depending on which press release. No evidence, naturally.
If you want to know if Tehrani propagandists are lying, just look to see if their lips are moving.
MrTemplarLeonem 5 days ago
@MrTemplarLeonem It was obviously a case of mass suicide of nuclear scientists. This period of the year is pretty gloomy in Teheran, everyone's feeling in the dumps.
Oh, silly silly me to involve the Mossad!
Maybe the symposium didn't teach you to demand evidence for the assertions of both sides?
Haarez1 5 days ago
@shining3210- Chomksky's much- vaunted-by-his-devotees' geopolitical acumen is remarkably myopic in this regard.
He consistantly ignores the proxy status of Hamas, Hezbollah, Mahdi Army, Al Queda, and Taliban vis-a-vis Iran. Israel has nen under one form of atack or another by Iran for the ladt 30 years- most recently, the Thailand incident.
Iran also spends millions yearly for the same anti-US, anti-Israel, anti-Iranian insurgent (MeK) propaganda as espoused by liberal luminaries like Chomsky.
MrTemplarLeonem 5 days ago
@MrTemplarLeonem You should get a bit more informed. Start researching the terrorist assassination of Iranian scientists by Israeli intelligence agents.
Haarez1 5 days ago
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@MrTemplarLeonem Yea the stupid communist, also met with terrorists leaders in lebanon, the far left should all migrate to north korea. All their dreams and ideas were already implemented there..
shining3210 5 days ago
What about vetoing the palestinians call to destroy israel and kill all jews worldwide chomsky?
What about ending terror activities?
What about negotiaing peace which they refuse to do?
Fucking communist hypocrite.
shining3210 5 days ago
@shining3210 It's actually the Netanyahu government that's been refusing to sign a peace treaty with a Palestinian state while using every imaginable dirty trick to continue the illegal expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
Again, go past the official propaganda and do your research.
Haarez1 5 days ago
@renzo@24- oh, I see- Dat Debbil White Mans.
One COULD posit that YOUR argument is racist, based upon your direct statements, rather than your method of exigization.
I do not have any regard for the opinionated proclamations of Chomsky, and care nothing for his critique of BHO. But opposition to this admin. needs no racist motivation- his policies, both foreign and domestic, are laughably inept.
BHO is obviously fatlr better at campaigning than he is at actually doing the job.
MrTemplarLeonem 6 days ago
He's right. Obama also signed NDAA, ordered the extra-judicial killing of an American citizen in Yemen, extended the Bush tax cuts, introduced a Heritage Foundation-devised health care reform, re-confirmed the Patriot Act.
Seriously, Obama is second only to W Bush in his erosion of fundamental civil liberties in America.
Haarez1 6 days ago
I usually like Chomsky's observations, but this is probably one of his weakest arguments I've ever seen. It all seems to boil down to "He didn't do everything I think he should have," which is disappointing, sure, but making him worse than Bush? Ridiculous.
DaystarEld 6 days ago
Noam seems to be one of the few sane folks who have a big name in today's world.
Bruce777999 6 days ago
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DaystarEld 6 days ago
Too bad Noam Chomsky is already 83, and I only started reading his material a few years ago. I wish this man would live for at least another 100 years. We need more people like him. Too bad that's a dying breed. Thank you for posting this video.
henriquecsouza 1 week ago
Bush had a fantastic economy. He owed no one. Obama inherited a terrible economy. He has to grease many more palms. Ergo, you cant really blame him. For what he wanted to do he has to owe many many more favours.
Pentdad 1 week ago
@renzoat24 Obama is not black you moron,he is a half -caste.He uses the race card when it suits him!
budapest509 1 week ago
@budapest509 too bad white ppl cant tell due to his skin color budapest dont call me the moron internet gangsta get it together buddy
renzoat24 1 week ago
@budapest509 come on pest way u at
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@budapest509 nice lol
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Obamas mother was a Jewess look at her pictures if you dont believe me, Tony Blair is a noted zionist he's stated many times in parliment while everyone watched the demonstrations he moved britains gold reserves to the zionist bankers, didn't you wonder why he was so loyal to bush thats why Britains is broke, what would that gold be worth now ?
Dodiwho1 1 week ago
this guy jst made the weakest argument ever about y obama is worse than bush lmao its never bin more clear as i read all the stupidity and look at all the videos white ppl cant stand the fact that a nigga is in the seat lmao. god is great. racism is alive and america loves it lol this world is doomed and we only have ourselves to blame
renzoat24 1 week ago
@CobinRain That demonstration in London was really more of a party than a protest (I was there). I wouldn't read that much into the lack of a reaction.
sanfranciscodude 1 week ago
Americans would of had it worse up the ass if a republican federal gov won last election.
Obamas a pussycat making deals with the powers , signing some of their shit so he gets some of his. Bad way to do it cuz you end up looking like the enemy.
He's dealing with wealth and power we can only try hard to imagine. He could end up dead. I dont know who you guys should vote for next, but please dont vote for some religious guy.
RaggaRamone 1 week ago
Ron Paul 2012
hehefromhere 1 week ago
While I agree with Chomsky, I can't help thinking what a strange turn things have taken- just imagine a teabagger using Noam Chomsky for their case against President Obama...
The Audacity of Hype.
OneWarmDragon 2 weeks ago
@OneWarmDragon Yes...remember that O'bummer was the 2008 advertising brand of the year...McCain was number number five...Nike was number two.
tstruss912 1 week ago
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@zedontube-excelent refutation.
(sarcasm)
What I don't know is of no consequence. What I DO know is the difference between real geopolitical awareness and stupidly adhering to an agenda hopelessly bigoted against US interests- such as Chomsky's.
TemplarLeonem 2 weeks ago
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@momintheweedzone-
Good point on Chomsky's dissemblance. Chomsky is consistant only in his inconsistancy.
Liberals have positions, not beliefs. Hence the 'fluidite'.
TemplarLeonem 2 weeks ago
@momintheweedzone
Good point on his prevaricative nature. Chomsky is consistantly inconsistant.
Liberals have positions, not beliefs; hence the fluidity.
TemplarLeonem 2 weeks ago
@TemplarLeonem, shut up!
You don't know anything!
zedonutube 2 weeks ago
Bush was a bad president, but at least he was honest.
69Poonhunter 3 weeks ago
@69Poonhunter more so than obama yes but honest lol? it doesn't matter who you vote for you still get the same "elite" government in power,like the guy said under you is spot on their just puppits that's all folks "ah how i love the american "dream" because you have to be asleep to believe it".
eminemforlifenoshit 3 weeks ago
@eminemforlifenoshit I mean he was a war mongerer but he was upfront about it.
69Poonhunter 3 weeks ago
@69Poonhunter yeah i thought so, was just just saying solidarity, have a nice day.
eminemforlifenoshit 3 weeks ago
@eminemforlifenoshit You too.
69Poonhunter 2 weeks ago
...another puppet of the plutocrats. That's all.
IndubitablyMe1988 3 weeks ago
lol i remember chomsky asking people to vote Obama at the time of the election (skeptically, as a better option than Mccain). i think his memory is slipping OR he should in future be more sensible and not ask people to play the stupid political game, voting for obviously terrible choices on the basis of them being less terrible.
momintheweedzone 4 weeks ago
@momintheweedzone Your is a typical "dumb" American response. Stop watching TV. Many people voted for Obama because they believed his rhetoric, and later were dissatisfied with what he actually did, Sherlock! I hate seeing idiot responses as yours, illogical.
PHANTOMSLAYER7 3 weeks ago
I guess when they were referring to the "American Dream" they were referring to Democracy, because unfortunately it is not a reality!
SFO14 1 month ago
@teddythebenny You're absolutely right. You can see this, especially with the UN, as we bypassed everyone when we went to war in '03. Unilateral policy is the enemy (as funded by the IMF for US purposes, etc.), and the presidents are merely the practitioners of this policy.
nigelrugby 1 month ago
@SFO14 I think his point is that every president, from Truman onward, can be tried for War Crimes. His point is that we ought not think Obama is exempt merely because he has advocated ending the war in Iraq; he's as guilty as Bush, but for different reasons.
nigelrugby 1 month ago
@nigelrugby NATO, international courts, IMF, world bank, UN.. the US owns them.
teddythebenny 1 month ago
@nigelrugby I agree, I wrote my comment before I finished watching the video :)
SFO14 1 month ago
how could Obama be tried for War Crimes, but not Bush with his "preemptive strikes" or Clinton using NATO to bomb Serbia back to the stone age, or any other US president for that matter?
SFO14 1 month ago
@SFO14 the sale and use of depleted uranium, and natural uranium ordinance to middle eastern countries, as well as a great deal of arms market by the US and America, and whoever else, has a large military industrial complex. WHO is owned by the US as well.. They used depleted uranium shells/ordinance in the balkans, gulf wars, middle east..
teddythebenny 1 month ago
9/11=CIA FALSE FLAG****LOOK IT UP
mrandisheh 1 month ago
obama is a fraud, the court in georgia will say so, he is a usurper and you know what, the american people deserve it because they are blind and like sheep, they flocked to obama like sheep to the slaughter, now obama wanted change and USA has it, NDAA (indefinet deterntion.No lawyer, no charge!, no time limit), Fema camps, Redention stations, 16 trillion in debt and no way out, my god, USA = Undeniably,Stupid,Assholes.
crazyknight2008 1 month ago
Obama never said he would immediately end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. An Chomsky's conjecture that our presence is making the situation in Pakistan worse does not even consider the consequence of an quick withdrawal of troops. This is the kind of style Chomsky loves to use in debates. Pepper people with facts and some good points, and then make questionable assertions but state them as fact.
dionusos2 1 month ago
@dionusos2 What consequence? There are no legitimate consequences of ending a war with an immediate withdraw. We JUST walked in so we can JUST walk out.
Xylogeist 1 month ago
@dionusos2 Obama did say that he would terminate the Iraq war promptly. He chose to extend it beyond even Bush's timetable for withdrawal but the Iraqis rejected it. On Afghanistan he was more hawkish, but he did say that his election would usher in an era of diplomacy over war. Instead he's tripled the rate of drone attacks under Bush in Pakistan and Yemen, assassinated Iranian scientists and launched multiple new wars in Libya and Uganda that collapse on forensic examination.
MenOfLetters 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012!!
Blkglssjw 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012!!
bradlom80 1 month ago
"Carrying out a major war in Afghanistan"??? A major war? This smug fuck must believe everything he says is the indisputable truth...
chichigord 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012!
MendingMedia 1 month ago
This is from 2010 as he states he was only in office 2 years. Chomsky is not an idiot but he is a suck up to anyone he thinks is an underdog and generalizes to no end. Obama is not worse then the bush family, let alone Cheney and haliburton along with the bin ladens. Bottom line is he understands the USA well but he never goes to all the places he also thinks he does so he does not know what is happening on the ground. I understand not playing to political games but he must do more then talk.
jonny7748 1 month ago
@jonny7748 Whether or not Chomsky is on the ground is irrelevant with respect to his statements about Barack Obama being held to Neuremburg principles.
Barack Obama campaigned on closing Guantanamo Bay, yet he signed a bill that will keep it open forever. He campaigned on upholding the rule of law, yet he signed a bill on New Years Eve that opens the door for Americans to be imprisoned without trial as long as they are terror suspects. He's a president of the status quo. Not change.
GambitFox79 1 month ago 50
@GambitFox79 and he won the Presidency by being anti-war during his campaign!!
bradlom80 1 month ago
@GambitFox79 Rich Status Quo
Ocacia 3 weeks ago
@GambitFox79 Unfortunately, I have a feeling that Obama is as left-wing as it's gonna get.
AmericanBadass44 2 weeks ago
@GambitFox79 He's worse than average. The treatment Obama enabled to be inflicted on Bradley Manning for his heroic commitment to the truth about war is tantamount to torture. Even Nixon didn't dare to do the same to Ellsberg.
Haarez1 5 days ago
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@Haarez1 Moron, the settlements sit on 2% of the west bank, never there were preconditions to negotiations, netanyahoo stoped people from building rooms for their chidlren for 10 months, and was something no government ever done, and the arabs still refused to negotiate. Move to north korea, and spare me your communist propoganda. Go tell that crap to a suicide bomber friend of yours or something.
shining3210 5 days ago
@jonny7748 Could you rephrase your statement so it makes sense linguistically? You are criticizing the father of linguistics, you know.
pratto54321 1 month ago
@pratto54321 You are putting the man who can't even speak up for himself, on a pedestal for what reason? How many languages does he speak that he understands so many cultures so well? How many has he come to know in intimate detail? Might want to look that up. He put Howard Zinn above himself, so what was Zinn?
jonny7748 1 month ago
noam chomsky and his followers are all iddiots. you internationalist socialist nazis need to be thrown out of power and deported to antartctica
Tomacomo 1 month ago
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ped200014 1 month ago
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@Tomacomo Don't forget they're also muslim pagan atheists too.
ped200014 1 month ago
You think Chromsky is crazy? Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one. You are certainly entitled to yours. Bt be careful, there is a fine line between making total sense and being crazy. Sometimes the crazies see things much more clearly.
Handiman544 1 month ago
@Handiman544
Chomsky is one of the sanest people I have ever seen and heard.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
I think Chomsky is crazy. Poor man.
bhigr 1 month ago
I love the way Noam Chomsky tells it how it is, much to the surprise of the interviewer. Sadly, there seems to be little dialogue amongst Americans, at least amongst the ones I have met, which reflects what he talks about. If there was more critique within the USA Im sure it would be a greater country than it already is.
TheMotherEagle 1 month ago
This guy's a genious.
LordVader89 1 month ago
And to think my country Australia voted with the evil US Obama fascists (& a few South Seas Island states) against the UN declaration on the illegality of Israeli settlements in the West Bank...pewkworthy......even worse is the fact that US Middle East policy is supported by both major political parties in Australia.....I'm ashamed to show my Aussie passport...
kevinherbert 1 month ago
Is BBC in a coma? God! Doesn't the international media even read before it conducts an interview? Are the British as asleep as the people in the United States?
tapolna 1 month ago 8
@tapolna Paxman is adversarial, confrontational and incredibly well educated. You shouldn't make assumptions based on how he appears from a three minute clip.
jacksawild 1 month ago
@tapolna An American without a TV, and "whiteness" is like a man with a lobotomy, walking aimlessly.
PHANTOMSLAYER7 3 weeks ago
@tapolna well actually the answer to your second question is yes...the people in britain are as "asleep" as the people in US...but i find it sad that you have to even ask that....it is all of western society
MarioBrosClassic 3 weeks ago
@tapolna The BBC is better than every major television news outlet in the US including PBS, but they are still a product of the British Corporate State.
spartan2600 3 weeks ago
@tapolna The brits are very ignorant, kept oblivious to reality by a controlled flow of media.
It is not a coincidence that UK supported the Iraq war, while the rest of Europe vetoed any military action.
syntaxed2 1 week ago
@syntaxed2 Hey, I'm a Brit. We have The Guardian, better than any outlet in the US... Even the BBC is better than any outlet in the US, as at least it's not directly controlled by corporate giants..
Hayleyfire929 1 week ago
@syntaxed2 But the British people didn't support the Iraq war, so how is that a demonstration of a controlled media?
notastampcollector 1 week ago
@syntaxed2 no, it's not 'coincidence' - and what exactly would that mean?
tsunchoo 1 week ago
@syntaxed2 More than one million British People marched through the streets of London in the months before the attack on Iraq. One Million. I think it was the largest demonstration ever held in this country. And it was ignored by Blair. Blatant. The truth is that the British Government is in the pocket of the Americans; we are little more than a sateliite of the US. So: a question for you: how much support did the Kremilin have in say, Poland, in the 1970s? Exactly.
CobinRain 1 week ago
If presidents are pupets there is no thing like being worse then other presidents. Its like what the real rulers of the world want him to do.
oggfish 1 month ago
@oggfish Reminds me of an excellent artice, the Cardboard Lotharios. :) Give it a read, it's long but very worth it and it talks about that precise thing. wwwDOTveteranstodayDOTcom/2010/06/17/gordon-duff-the-cardboard-lotharios/
sguasp27 1 month ago
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@oggfish Reminds me of an excellent artice, the Cardboard Lotharios. :) Give it a read, it's long but very worth it and it talks about that precise thing. wwwDOTveteranstodayDOTcom/2010/06/17/gordon-duff-the-cardboard-lotharios/
sguasp27 1 month ago
@oggfish Reminds me of an excellent artice, the Cardboard Lotharios. :) Give it a read, it's long but very worth it and it talks about that precise thing. GOOGLE gordon duff the cardboard lotharios
sguasp27 1 month ago
I have to defer to the wisdom of Professor Chomsky here...
humper9 1 month ago
note the perplexity in the interviewer's question "why is he worse?".
All Obama has to offer is that he is prettier than Bush or Blair both in terms of charismatic looks and public speaking.
But look at his acts, as Prof Chomsky has done, and all Obama's charm counts for absolutely nothing.
The interviewer's shocked incredulity speaks volumes for the mindless debasement of the journalistic profession
Strefanasha 1 month ago
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churchjamespeter 1 month ago
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Vote Ron Paul!!!
Reido2828 1 month ago
Obama is the first Black president of the USA, and also the first US president to officially sponsor and fund racist lynch mobs, who hung and mutilated Black people on the streets of Libya.
davisoneill 1 month ago
@davisoneill Very true and clearly reveals where Obama's loyalties lie.Not with black people nor with Americans in general
Veedon7 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012
hehh666 1 month ago
Was this interview taken when it was uploaded in March 10th, 2011? Cause I'd be just the slight bit interested if Noams views weren't in any way changed by the killing of Osama Bin Laden who died March 2th, 2011.
TheSwissMaestro89 1 month ago
@TheSwissMaestro89
Killing the leader of a small terrorist organization that reportedly has core members numbering in only the hundreds and not the thousands who is literally the equivalent of Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984 minus quite a few force multipliers shouldn't change anyones opinion on how Obama has severely curtailed and limited our constitutional rights. Nothing changed when Bin-Laden died.
shanembh 1 month ago
@shanembh So that's a "I don't know" then? Cause I'm just curious when the interview took place lol.
TheSwissMaestro89 1 month ago
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President Obama began his criminal career by bombing Pakistan. Already during his first year as president ordered the Nobel laureate Obama more bombings with the pilot loose bombers, drones, than President Bush throughout his tenure.
Hullujenpieru 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012
pamchirathivat 1 month ago
He,Obama's record isn't great, but I don't think it is worse than Bush and Blair.
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Jatspage 1 month ago
he says: "in many ways", not worse in general
Zatzzo 1 month ago
Guys, go to facebook and search for "obama is a war criminal"
like that page and say your mind
IZONEnumberONE 1 month ago 9
@IZONEnumberONE I'll also have to like the pages "Bush is a war criminal" and "Cheney is a war criminal," "Rumsfeld...Rove..." etc.
EaterofCornbread 1 month ago
@EaterofCornbread u can open ones if u want hehe for now i only found this obama one
IZONEnumberONE 1 month ago
The USA is the only superpower on the planet and whom the Americans make President will affect the rest of us. The depressing thing is that even the American electorate do not have a real choice as they will be forced to choose between only two people who will each support Israel's persecution of the Palestinians and the further destabilization of the Middle East.
OrodesIII 1 month ago
Sounds like we got another Ron Paul supporter.. Ron Paul 2012 ....Corrupt Politicians beware..
MrEmerye 1 month ago
@MrEmerye
No..
Noam Chomsky denounced Ron Paul.
xMaXiMuSx 1 month ago
Ron Paul is an advocate of libertarian capitalism, the completely opposite position that Noam Chomsky takes as an anarcho-syndalist. If you like Chomsky, you shouldn't be backing Paul.
Jaygull 1 month ago
@Jaygull That's correct but it's not. Ron Paul is essentially the candidate with the most similarities to Chomsky at the moment. Obama might be slightly social-democratic, but every single good thing he'll try to bring to the table would get shot down. His foreign policy is terrible to boot. He completely disagrees with him on a multitude of issues, it's pretty apparent, but he also supports him on many issues as well.
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VideoRetroluxe 1 month ago
I like Obama as a person... but he's a pretty mediocre president. I hope for a matchup between him and Ron Paul. I'd probably vote Paul.
TheRedRussian10 1 month ago
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Can someone please assassinate Noam Chomsky? It wouldn't be hard. Just take a sturdy metal chair to the back of his head. He's old.
stebecool 1 month ago
Ron Paul
surfsailgod 1 month ago
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Well said Noam. We soooo need Ron Paul to save America if not the world. Since Wall Street owns our news media were all going to have to work together. We can do it!!! Stay strong brothers & sisters..... Love & Peace for FREEDOM= Ron Paul 2012
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synzofanonymous 1 month ago
@QRDF11B By all means, Harrisdrone cultists #283742893743, tell me what I've said that is baseless and factually inerrant.
theeffinone 2 months ago
Harris speaks nonsense, bigotry, and emprical falsehoods that would make anyone remotely familiar with the topics he speaks on wince. He supports American imperialism and power unquestionably. He promotes Islamophobia and blatant falsehoods against Muslims and Arabs, providing support and justification for mass murder. He excuses Israeli crimes against the Palestinian's, and cites Alan Dershowitz's The Case For Israel as a reliable source. Cries about Iranian nukes, too. Harris is poison.
theeffinone 2 months ago
@Matprithellodave No, my point is that it's clear from Harris's own writings that he has no knowledge of the topics he spews garbage about, does not check sources that contradict the conclusions he already arrived at, and puts barely any critical thought into the subjects he froths about. A man who considers Israel/Palestine a religious conflict, and who believes Islam is a monolith and the source of arab animocity towards the west, is not someone who should be taken seriously against Chomsky.
theeffinone 2 months ago
One need only read Harris's ignorant and empirically false views on the middle east, Islam, and Israel/Palestine. Harris quoted Dershowitz's "The Case For Israel" as a source on Israel/Palestine, a book that plagiarized from another fruad. What, exactly, gives you the idea that a neuroscientist knows more about geopolitical dynamics and the impact of imperialism than a political activist with over five decades of experience?
theeffinone 2 months ago
@theeffinone You're making the mistake of thinking that only the erudite are qualified to make judgement on this kind of thing. You say Harris isn't as knowledgeable as Chomsky and is therefore unfit to comment. If so, then surely you are too. Harris speaks sense, and does a lot of good, and there are others far more worthy of your criticism.
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@theeffinone To take what Chomsky says as gospel is a big mistake, and it leads to backwards thinking. People have a right to criticise Chomsky, and to "treat the superior scholar with skepticism when he disagrees with your viewpoints" is surely very necessary, or he will go unchallenged: a bad thing. Otherwise it retards the open discussion which leads to truth.
matprithellodave 2 months ago
Chomsky has been very critical of evolutionary psychology for the same reason as Stephen Jay Gould, but if he were to debate one of the four horseman on the topic, it would be Dennet and Dawkins, not Harris and Hitchens.
Anywho, Chomsky is far more well versed on the matters of political dynamics in the middle east, the impact of US foreign policy and hegemony, and a myriad of other topics than Harris could ever dream to be.
theeffinone 2 months ago
I don't believe Chomsky has ever referred to Hitchens and Harris as religious fanactics. His issue with Hitchens is that he's a back stabber, offensive, intellectually dishonest, and a rotten person politically. I'm actually not aware of Chomsky ever acknowleding Harris's critiques, and for good reason. Nobody actually cares about what Sam Harris says, or takes him seriously, except for his fellow positivist cultists.
theeffinone 2 months ago
@TheMadBeach Well, considering Chomsky is the most cited American scholar, and Sam Harris is never cited, I'd say you could only reject Chomsky's views if you reject the scientific method whenever it disagrees with your preconceived notions. However, rejecting the scientific method when it disagrees with your preconceived notions is the reality with most Harrisdrones, so it's not surprising you'll treat the superior scholar with skepticism when he disagrees with your viewpoints.
theeffinone 2 months ago
@ca9109 While I agree with your critiques to a T and your view on Chomsky, I must admit to being confused with your claim that Sam Harris is different than those who you rightfully demonize. From what I've read, Sam Harris is the exact type of person you lament; obsessed with religion (he still writes about a European Caliphate and other Islamophobic canards 10 years after 9/11), a radical positivist, believing the spread of Shariah is everywhere, and supporting the Iraq war.
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Premier112 2 months ago
Chomsky's default position on any US Foreign Policy action is to be against it, his views on foreign policy are always anti-American. He says very little about the foreign policy of any other country, saying that it's not for him to speak about them, but subsequently fueling an anti-US view. Sadly over the last 15 years there has been a continual fall in Chomsky's interpretation of international affairs & a dereliction of duty not to speak out against actions of other governments or actors.
marmitetruth 2 months ago
Chomsky referred to Hitchens and Harris as religious fanatics? Sam Harris? I have listened to hours of lectures and debates of his and he makes complete sense regarding religion, science, and morals. In my humble opinion Chomsky is way out of bounds in this area, so I now take everything Chomsky says with a grain of salt and skepticism.
TheMadBeach 2 months ago
@TheMadBeach Chomsky merely criticizes the obsession with religion, the problem is not religion it is critical thinking and social institutions.religion is just a nasty byproduct. i think sam harris is awesome because he seems to understands this and treats religion as something to be discussed but not obsessed over. however most people that identify as atheist or anti theist are pathetic thinkers. that is like someone basing their identity on not believing in santa. they tend to be no better
ca9109 2 months ago
@TheMadBeach (2) than your typical creationist. they merely regurgitate information without any critical analysis. it is more like a power trip for them, they can feel smart and knowledgeable when in reality they come to painfully dumb conclusions ( iraq war,sharia law every where, fall into left right paradigm, resort to radical positivism, rigid concepts of human nature,obama). sam harris is an awesome guy but Chomsky is a legend, obviously you still do research but hes a reliable source.
ca9109 2 months ago
Obama's presidency was bought and paid for by corporate interests, therefore he must serve their interests. In other words he owes them big time."Change" was his buzz word but nothing's changed. Samo samo.
proust2020 2 months ago
our beloved Obama !!! How dare he !! Im supposed to hate everyone who disagrees with me per my radical left wing teachings !!! Im confused now... ..Wait Im confused again....Racism ?.
CristianTheMuslimJew 2 months ago
@CristianTheMuslimJew The radical left wing dislike Obama. Youre thinking of liberals.
ZombiBuddy 2 months ago
@ZombiBuddy you seem to have the radical left mixed up with anyone of intelligence. People of intelligence dislike Obama because they see him as the controlled corporate puppet that he is.
aodscarecrow 2 months ago
He has a great point... Now the question is, who should we vote for unstead of Obama?? Rick Perry? Newt? Bachmann? FUCK, THAT, SHIT... I'm gonna vote independent I don't care if I'm the only one.
ProtectandServe21 2 months ago 12
@ProtectandServe21 RON PAUL
fingerspear 2 months ago
@ProtectandServe21 I would say ron paul,but I'm almost certain you've heard it a thousand times already.
Ravengaurd6 2 months ago
@ProtectandServe21
Ron Paul 2012
wolfdaddy205 2 months ago 3
@ProtectandServe21 How about Ron Paul. He's the only one talking about this shit.
PaulJamieson1 2 months ago
@ProtectandServe21 Well I was thinking the same damn thing. Does Chomsky think we'll be better off with any of the cretins you just named? And a question for you. What if there is no ind.candidate to vote for or what if he/she turns out to be patently worse than Obama or any of the Repubs? So what will you do in November? Just askin!
Loejyrrab 1 month ago
@ProtectandServe21 ron paul man youtube him...hes been saying the same shit since the 80s...cuz hes the man
paulrozy 1 month ago
@ProtectandServe21 ron paul obviously
bonusbarclay 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@bonusbarclay fuck ron paul
glottis5 1 month ago
@glottis5 you sound afraid.
bonusbarclay 1 month ago
@bonusbarclay nah ron paul is just a crazy old racist with really dumb ideas. it's cool that he's talking about important issues like the military industrial complex and the bubble economy but his individualist libertarian philosophy is even worse than the ridiculous system we have now and would concentrate power into the hands of capital even more than our current system does. it would be like the gilded age all over again
glottis5 1 month ago
@glottis5 the issue of capital inequality is that it is backed by state force. so far a runaway government always bankrupts the citizens and enslaves them to the debt through the coercion of taxes. people don't need control of the capital to prosper since civil society is the hub of production and labor. as those forces stay intact the freedom and prosperity of the people will be preserved. remember, Ron Paul is simply decentralizing power by giving more strength to local governments.
Ravengaurd6 1 month ago
@ProtectandServe21 This same question is worrying me. It is my first opportunity to vote, and I can only feel that voting will confirm my complicity with a system that is promulgating one buffoon after another in the guise of a potential president. its a joke. admittedly i am a bit ignorant but i am not a fool, the veneer of bs that covers each candidate is quite thick to any person
FootDanielLight 1 month ago
@ProtectandServe21 Please consider voting for Ron Paul.
wingedhussar1 1 month ago
@wingedhussar1 I love Ron Paul but would not vote for him. His economic ideas, although they sound good in theory, ignore 130 years of history. Lets not vote for a man who suggests we put our hand on a hot stove to avoid frostbite. Haven't we been burned buy the free market fairytale too many times already?
joejoe652 1 month ago
@joejoe652 Ron Paul is very mindful of 130 years of history. Just search for this video (World War 3 Funds: Why End The Fed?) on how The Fed Reserve came into being, is dragging our country into financial ruin and why JFK wanted it ended to return our money back to the gold standard.
wingedhussar1 1 month ago
@wingedhussar1 I appreciate your perspective as I once held the same view. My position has changed for reasons to complex to explain in a post limited to 400 characters. I really need to write a small essay on the misconceptions of the free market and the Keynesian economic system that I could share with others. Since my position has changed from a supporter of Austrian economics, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff and the like, I often run into this dilemma of sharing insights with my fellow citizens.
joejoe652 1 month ago