Two Kinds Of Men

[coswyn]

"He that is greatest among you shall be your servant." (Matthew 23:11)

Service is indeed what we are all called to, to do the good works of God for the benefit and edification of our brothers and sisters in Christ, and for the pleasure and glory of God.

[TheUSaveMoving]

@SoldierOfChrist110 Wrong! It does not condone it. And what @Lakerfan27 is no where near "righteous judgement."

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@TheUSaveMoving Yes it does. I can quote you the verse if you like? If a man is a liar, is it wrong to call him a lair? If a woman practises adultery, is it wrong to call her an adulteress? If a person is an unbeliever, is it wrong to call them an atheist? Not at all. The Bible does indeed support righteous judgment.

[TheUSaveMoving]

Actually @lakerfan27 what you have said is wrong, egotistical and un-Biblical. You have judged Mark Driscoll which is against biblical principles. I know neither you nor Mark Driscoll so I can't whom is right or wrong, nor is it my place. I am sure that Mark has his faults. We all do. The Church is a membership of hypocrites. We are all sinners in the eyes of the Lord. Your statement is a judgement on Mark and therefore a violation of the New Testament.

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@TheUSaveMoving Actually the Bible does condone "righteous judgment" so please get your facts right before you make a statement.

[patty7beth]

I never cease to be amazed at those who think they've been given gifts of discernment - and invent a "ministry" that essentially consists of criticizing the ministry of others. So, Driscoll critics - I guess you're leading lots of lost people to belief/salvation in Jesus, baptizing new converts, right? Or is your "ministry" just critiquing those who do? Pathetic.

[lakerfan27]

@patty7beth Wrong! Every man has the gift of leadership but it's up to him to develop it & use it properly. If u accept being 2nd fiddle 2 somebody else then that's ur problem. I wouldn't do it but that's just me. My point is that Mark has abused his power in the past when he fired 2 pastors and basically told his congregation to shut up & do what they're told. The video is on Youtube. Men have 2 be careful on who they trust & always question what they hear. This helps keep pastors in check.

[lakerfan27]

So basically, Pastor Mark is Mars Hill's equivalent of Paul and the rest of the men in his church are Luke. He gets to be in charge and other men just follow him, take care of his needs, and make sure he's okay. He gets to make the rules and they obey them like puppy dogs. How convenient for him? Pathetic. Just another way to control good, God-fearing men. Men are bound only to Christ, not mere mortals like Pastor Mark.

[TheNomad1970]

@lakerfan27 welcome to religeon my friend

[patty7beth]

@lakerfan27 Nothing wrong, egotistical or unBiblical is said here. Clearly u have issues with Driscoll & warp this sermon thru your filter. It's nature of the ego to want to lead. But not everyone has the gift of leadership. Even those who do must begin by serving.

Driscoll began a small church that "blew up" & became massive; clearly, he's a leader. Men in his church who want to lead do so by going thru training to take on leading roles, some leaving 2 start new churches. So why the whining?

[brightlights456X]

"Serve those who are surving others"

Thats a powerful statement

[fluff1991]

Wait. But as a man, wouldnt they wanna be Paul instead of Luke! Not just for the sake of fame or being in the limelight but Paul is seen is the man as Luke is just doing stuff in the background. I guess just gotta remove pride and remember its about pleasing God and not man

[rickyd0821]

very nice.

[Pacslyf]

Driscoll is quite entertaining i find,

[flavorloops]

Miking193 and roac7777, you two need prayer, and I'm going to keep you in my prayers. I pray that God does a work in your hearts that can be explained by the love of Christ.

[miking193]

@flavorloops thanks for the prayer I appreciate that, I will pray for you & Driscoll, he is one of the biggest wolves out there, we have made videos addressing this, & i think we'll make some more soon

[miking193]

roac777 amen I was going to say the same, thing, he distorts the story of Paul being punk rebel, to a bunch of people who don't know the scriptures well enough to shout shut your mouth you heretic, and fake, you don't know God because if you did you wouldn't twist his stories around to seem hip and cool and get a bunch of money and fame

[1Natecore]

@miking193 its been a while since you've commented on this, but in what way/ways did Driscoll distort Paul's story?

[miking193]

@1Natecore hey I had to rewatch this video, & of all his clips on youtube this isn't really an awful one, he is right Paul shows signs of election, the main thing abou this video is Driscoll is refering to himself as being a Paul & looking & NLPing people into being his Luke's if you don't about NLP look it up, it's a subtle way to embede commands into people w/ out them noticiing

[eltronrangamma]

@miking193

Uh? What? LOL

[miking193]

@1Natecore this isn't a great video to show Driscoll distorting the truth overall it's not a bad message, Christians should seek to be humble & Paul is evidence of God's grace, if you want to see videos where we go into detail about bad theology Driscoll gives we have videos uploaded going over this, & I think we'll make some new ones soon, thanks God bles

[vanceisvloggin]

@miking193 its contextualization. you do that to translate a story into what can be relateable to the current audience. otherwise, veggietales is sinful because its saying biblical characters are actually vegetables.

[miking193]

@vanceisvloggin Keep in mind I overall I don't think this video's message was that bad, as stated in other comments. I understand contextualization but there is also such a thing as distortion & misrepresentation & lying. We've done 9 videos about Driscoll & where I think he does what I just said, if you want to why, I explain it in the videos.

[roac7777]

Driscoll is a fraud just like religion in general. How does he and other clergy live with themselves for telling lies to children and young people.

[thiagoslacerda]

Repent and believe in the Gospel. After, pray for Mark Driscoll's family and ministry.

God loves you, commom guy. Be a rebel, read your Bible.

[roac7777]

Very funny, you should be a comedian by trade.

[BrockLamkins]

Very encouraging and insightful.

Thanks and God Bless!

[1337LinuxDan]

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cheers!!

[EDWARD8478]

@1337LinuxDan Hi... So you have been saved for a year now? I hope that yr redemption is going from strength to strength!? All the best...