actually the new eclipse gt-p has 263 hp and the vr4 has 320 hp, the eclipse is SOHC and the vr4 is DOHC, so some of you guys should do your research before your talk crap about cars on here(zackcatlin)
@chriskart09 u can here the bov wosh, if nothing it was upboosted and maybe with a single turbo kit, lookin at the lag he got at thr beginning, u get a bit better responce at that speed in right gear from stock TT
That was great for all the eclipse lovers out there that have always bashed on the VR-4 because it's a boat and it weighs too much....lol. I've owned quite a few of the old Eclipse Gs-T's and GSX's before I bought my Vr-4's and 300ZX Twin Turbo...they're good cars but stock to stock they are in a totally different class.
im confused. busyhandskast says that eclipses have dumb drivers. well how can that be the case when if i am not mistaken the vr4 is turbo charged and the new eclipse isnt. so turbo or supercharge the 4th gen and then he will have a chance. all that aside...the 3000gt took a massive shit on the eclipse. good run.
haha...love the vid...don't mess with the old school...the 3000 gt is one of the best cars to be put out by Mitsu...that and the Evo, complete, bad ass cars!
i agree. the only thing i would change about the 3000gt and stealths is the weight. there heavy sob's. xD im trying to figure out a good way to lighten my stealth but keep it looking stock, and to do it cheaply. >)
Hah, the only way you're gonna be able to do that is to take out a bunch of features like ac and wiper fluid. Either that or get a lighter fiberglass body kit/carbon fiber stock parts. Good luck with that though, trust me I'm in the same situation, '95 3kgt myself.
both evo and sti are 4 door car, i would never spend my money buying one of those, because eveb tho they are fast it doesnt feel like im driving a true sports car. like 3000gt or 300zx
When will mhi ever make a 6cylinder with twin turbochargers again oh and dont forget that spanking awd platform. sure they make evos but their ugly sedan with huge spoiler and high tops wich increases drag. also a 4cylinder with single turbo lags a lot sure it might put almost the same hp but it will definitely need a big fuel system.
was that a race? The vr-4 is mitsubishis top of the line proformance shit lol I cant wait to get a vr-4 haha the evo's just dont cut it for me =D gt's are a legend lol
iceman your fucken retarded if you have a tt fwd 3000gt sl you won't loose traction unless you don't know hot to lauch, then you get wheelspin!!Im thinking its got to go over 400hp to do alot of wheelspin on a fwd..my guess?
hobeeho is a retard even if yuou have a fwd TT guess what all it's gonna do is spin the tires so you might as well sack up grow some balls and buy a vr4 istead of a shitty GT FWD
im 19 and my insurance company wants to charge me 3k a YEAR for it as a daily and 1k more a year for a weekend car 3000gt vr-4(((is listed as a grand touring car aka luxury so its not priced with a supra 300zx...etc its wayy lower
for a 3000gt it costs quite a bit, turbos, piping, intercoolers, all the internals that need to be swapped out plus tuning. id say 4k or so at the minimum.
You don't have to swap out internals. A DOHC 3000GT can be TT'd for an AVERAGE of about 1 grand using stock parts off of VR-4's. It doesn't even need to be tuned. Trust me. There are numerous writeups available as well.
the dohc 6g72 is a high compression engine to make up for it not being forced inducted. if u turbo a high compression engine, its not goin to blow right away, but the stress on the interals will be huge compared to a proper set up.
Well, sure - it's a 10:1 engine vs. an 8:1 engine. You won't be able to run near as high boost pressure. Generally people run around 8 psi with stock parts.
did you just say FWD tt? why in gods name would you waist all your money swapping in a TT engine when you can buy a stock vr-4 for the same if not cheaper?
Any of you clowns who think this is an Eclipse GT need to eat a dick. Its clearly a gutless stock GS. Just another ricer with nice rims and some f&f neons, giving the 4g eclipse a bad name. Race a GT with a few bolt ons from a roll and its a whole new race. Parasitic power loss will dog that vr4. This is like putting a 5.0 against a bone stock civic.
lol my 3000gt fwd tt will own this stupid eclipse any day...3000gt are the best looking car STOCK without any bolt on. u stupid fucks need to own one then start talking shit,u guys probly dont even own a freakin car fucken bums
check out my videos.. why the hell would i wanna lie about having a car.. thats just pathetic..and what do you own? a civic you probly dont even own shit
I own a DSM, a 1990 Eclipse GSX, so i have in fact seen the symbol before. Diamond-Star motors was a joint venture between Mitsubishi Motors and Chrysler. their name is a combination of the three DIAMONDS for Mitsu and the pentaSTAR for Chrys, thus DIAMOND-STAR. all cars produced by this company are called DSMs. so, like said before your dumbass decided to speak, DIAMOND-STAR MOTORS is not just Mitsubishi, its a combination of the two companies. refer to my first comment for cars that are DSMs.
blackcky, DSM doesn't mean just mitusbishi. DSM cars were built in the normal Illinois plant. ALL 3000GT's were made in Nagoya JAPAN. Therefore NOT a DSM. Read up on wiki about it, it may blow your mind...
the vr4 is faster than the new eclipse and I have one, but the eclipse is alot better looking than a 3000gt, and with bolt ons and some minor mods I beated vr4's without nos
No way. Top of the line Eclipse got like 260hp FWD and a VR4 pushin 320 ponies with twin turbo AND AWD. You don't got minor mods, you got some expensive stuff. That, or you raced a fake VR4 that was a 3000GT SL.
and about the video (lol) hes not fat, hes just big boned. im willing to bet that vr4 is far from stock. did anyone notice the compressor surge? put a better driver in the 3000gt and i bet it wouldnt have been a contest. (not like it was anyways)
ok lets get a few things straight- why does everyone say vr4s are overweight when supras almost weigh the same and EVERYONE sucks them off? vr4= 3700lbs supra= 3500ish... i own a vr4 with a few upgrades and i dynoed at 350 WHEEL HORSE POWER. please please please research a car before u talk about it.
ya it sucks that 3kgt are so fricken heavy they should of just made them rwd and they would be sick, but still they are a good bang for ur buck about 10k for an average vr4 then dump 2.5k in turbos, new injectors and a 100 dollar intercooler off ebay and ul have one fast ass car that cant be beat for the price and u can buy some flashy wheels to save some weight if u want to
You people know almost nothing based on your comments. And you just sit here and comment on peoples videos...guessing at things, thinking your right.. LOL..Twisted3kgt is the only person here commenting with some fuckin average knowledge about hp numbers for the 2nd gen 3kgt. WHP and HP are two different specs, you noob ricers.
No kidding, flywheel HP is going to be the one that the manufacturers throw around, but it's just a meaningless number. Most VR-4's get anywhere from 240 up to around 265 on an AWD dyno. Those are the averages, some get considerably less, but this is usually due to poor tuning, boost leaks, etc. Lighter wheels and a lighter driveshaft cause a slight increase due to less rotational inertia in the driveline.
ive worked on both of these car models, like everyone is saying, the vr-4 is 320hp, the eclipse is 260hp, assuming a 20-30% drivetrain loss the vr-4 would dyno 290ish and the eclipse 220-230ish, so yeah the 400extra pounds on the vr-4 is not a factor, although the twin turbo vr-4 shined at top end with the turbos fully spooled. but we already knew this.
are u retarded? Dont blow bullshit when u know nothin, stock 3000GT's dyno at 222 and that a base model, now u are tryin to say the twin turbo only gives 20 more horsepower. drivetrain loss won't take almost 100 horsepower away from the car
LOL, am I retarded? You think factory numbers are whp? haha. Do some research nub. wow. "dont blow bullshit when u know nothing" lol i've owned 2 of them for the past 5 years, what a moron. How many dynos on stock VR4's have you seen? (obviously none) Just another idiot kid commenting on youtube...btw awd = 20-30% drivetrain loss on average...whats 30% of 320? ...i'll just tell ur retard ass 96 hp.
VR4 maybe 270 to the wheels (AWD is a bitch) wight 3950lbs
Eclipse with I/E/H around 280-290 wheel hp. Weight 3575lb. mod the vr4 a little and you might have 320 to the wheels but you still have 400lbs more wight.
my friend has an orange 05 eclipse, 4 cyl automatic....i pity him, it cost like 25K and pretty much sucks. feels like driving a big ass tank, really hard to see what is around you too. 3000GT turbos are sick!!!
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What proof do you have that the 3s was modded and the eclipse is stock? Do you know both parties personally? If not then no point of making it all up.
I talked to the Eclipse owner before the occurance, and I am very good friends w/ the 3/S owner. If not, why would I be in his car? The 3/S has twin EVO III 16's, supporting mods, 3" turbo back, going to twin after the "cat." And other random stuff.
It depends what the GST or GSX has done to it. A RS or GS wouldn't stand a chance unless it was built to handle shit loads of boost since the GS and RS aren't even built for turbo from the factory. I got mad respect for VR4's so don't get me wrong there.
v6 VS. v6, turbo will always win
TEAMHYBRID007 4 weeks ago
All racing was performed on a private track in an undisclosed location.
LMAOOO
MrRayman217 1 month ago
eclipse is probably a 4 cyl a v6 would of did way better
johnnye263 6 months ago
he just seems to get further and further away for some reason, lol
3KVT 1 year ago
gt walks em all day
JimmyMcmillan 1 year ago
my friend drove his 3000gt under a semi. it was totaled. but it was fun.
dmamerica 1 year ago
it was a nice thought eclipse (4g)
phantomplanet 1 year ago
haha.. kick his ass
3kgtss 1 year ago
I knew that vr4 was going to kill the eclipse, but I wanted to see it anyway.
1Nightmare1UHQ 1 year ago 4
why would u want to race a vr4 u idi....... u got your ass owned
pivot1004 1 year ago
why would u even try him
djay102687 1 year ago
raped. sell your eclipse and then you can buy like 2 or 3 vr4s
senad54 1 year ago
actually the new eclipse gt-p has 263 hp and the vr4 has 320 hp, the eclipse is SOHC and the vr4 is DOHC, so some of you guys should do your research before your talk crap about cars on here(zackcatlin)
blazerboy121 1 year ago
@blazerboy121 Did i say gtp no i said gts learn to read and even with 263 horsepower they still are slow
Zackcatlin 1 year ago
even the 3000gt dohc with out turbo can beat the new eclipse they r slow they only have 150 hp and at the most with the gts they have 210
Zackcatlin 1 year ago
@Zackcatlin stock 3000gts without turbo have 222hp
j0k3r9696 1 year ago
@j0k3r9696 if ur talking bout the sl i fucking rape them in a gs
Haladafs 1 year ago
wow thought the eclipse wouldve atleast held its own guess not MIVEC.. ha! that vr4 was beastly!
v3eclipseR 1 year ago
poor car 2nd to 1st.
paisa1990 1 year ago
ultrakill
jdoggybizzle 1 year ago
All i can say is that the guy in the 'New eclipse' paid to much Ha Ha Ha Ha
Blondets1 2 years ago 18
Is it the Eclipse GT?
Or the lame MiVEC 4 banger?
Also, I don't believe the VR-4 was stock?
IMO.
IDK.
YoniRene 2 years ago
no its the v-6 it has the factor fog lights. the 4banger don't have fog lights unless it is the convertible I think
cheerthug 2 years ago
its stock
Danny7930 2 years ago
Really good! Is that a stock VR4? K&N and full Exhaust only?
I have one too and... it's fast!
chriskart09 2 years ago
@chriskart09 u can here the bov wosh, if nothing it was upboosted and maybe with a single turbo kit, lookin at the lag he got at thr beginning, u get a bit better responce at that speed in right gear from stock TT
mmarmash 2 years ago
the new eclipses are slow and private track my ass it looked like the highway lol
njwolf2k9 2 years ago 6
don't fuck with a VR4. VR4 all the way
veilsidefun 2 years ago 20
That 4th gen did not know how to drive. Eh pointless anyway. I own a Stealth TT, they are fast as fuck!!
FlagstaffFury 2 years ago
i got a 3000gt sl man i wish they would bring back this bad ass motha fucka lol.
marineswilldefeatyou 2 years ago
WHAT ARE THE MODS ON THE VR4???
lcarlosm36 2 years ago
twin turbo, awd dohc
jesus4rm 2 years ago
Those aren't mods...
Inuyasha1771 2 years ago
The outcome was already known. pointless race really.
EclipseGTT85 2 years ago
VR-4
Pure win.
darkshark9 2 years ago 4
smoked in my pipe hahahah vr4 baby
sledracer5 2 years ago
i bet that 4-cylidner doesnt have a ripped driver side leather seat
BushBlewUpTwinTowers 2 years ago
ya because they're cloth pos seats
Mitsubishi3kgt 2 years ago
so was this eclipse the 4 banger or was it a v6???
siiikkshot 2 years ago
motherfucker
jesustadeoi 3 years ago
smoked!
Darkmetamorphosis1 3 years ago
4 banger vs twin turbo V6..... hmmm
thegreenjavelin 3 years ago
V6 chump.
Shawn96VR4 2 years ago
the supra got all the attention...sory.
9/11 inside job
BushBlewUpTwinTowers 2 years ago
fuck you man your a fucking retard. i hope you die, i really do. fuck face.
marineswilldefeatyou 2 years ago
This was a pointless video...
sdlausen 3 years ago
That was great for all the eclipse lovers out there that have always bashed on the VR-4 because it's a boat and it weighs too much....lol. I've owned quite a few of the old Eclipse Gs-T's and GSX's before I bought my Vr-4's and 300ZX Twin Turbo...they're good cars but stock to stock they are in a totally different class.
1badvr4 3 years ago
hahah he said he saw walmart in the backround lol and the eclispe wud get smoked by a 3000gt vr4 twin turbo awd buddy but that was funny though lol
1vkiller1 3 years ago
Yeah, a private track in an undisclosed location.
Is that a walmart I see in the background
hahah.
zachbmth 3 years ago
haha... funny
KyleClyne 2 years ago
vr4 rules
balvarg 3 years ago
wow mivec got blown out the water...
onlyhonestonehere 3 years ago
This is great ya know why, bc the kid that drives the eclipse, is my best friend who thinks he hott shit. well guess not. Sry Man.
zooyorkguy1985 3 years ago
of course the vr4 won, the new eclipses are chicks cars.
bwh998 3 years ago 2
im confused. busyhandskast says that eclipses have dumb drivers. well how can that be the case when if i am not mistaken the vr4 is turbo charged and the new eclipse isnt. so turbo or supercharge the 4th gen and then he will have a chance. all that aside...the 3000gt took a massive shit on the eclipse. good run.
Eclipsetuner 3 years ago
the problem with the eclipes is that they had a dumb ass who dont know how to drive
busyhandskast 3 years ago
or that it cant touch a vr4...probly not even a base 3kgt. walk, walk, walk
jabarty07 3 years ago
i love these videos of 3000gts whooping up on other cars.
tzskateworks 3 years ago 3
my 3g eclipse gt can beat that 4g eclipse gs im not sure about the gt 4g
kelvinfplatano 3 years ago
the gt, NO WAY
CHEK MINE
luishurst 3 years ago
3000gt's are untouchable
XuleGua 3 years ago 4
ummmm.....not true.
Angix45 3 years ago
turbo the eclipse and give it lsd. pooooop.
wutunoboutmarbry 3 years ago
haha...love the vid...don't mess with the old school...the 3000 gt is one of the best cars to be put out by Mitsu...that and the Evo, complete, bad ass cars!
ortiz84tx 3 years ago 5
i agree. the only thing i would change about the 3000gt and stealths is the weight. there heavy sob's. xD im trying to figure out a good way to lighten my stealth but keep it looking stock, and to do it cheaply. >)
themisfitwolfie 3 years ago 2
haha, oh yeah! They are pretty heavy lol
ortiz84tx 3 years ago
Hah, the only way you're gonna be able to do that is to take out a bunch of features like ac and wiper fluid. Either that or get a lighter fiberglass body kit/carbon fiber stock parts. Good luck with that though, trust me I'm in the same situation, '95 3kgt myself.
deadlylegacy 3 years ago
carbon fiber parts and take out everything lol
KerryDoan 3 years ago
both evo and sti are 4 door car, i would never spend my money buying one of those, because eveb tho they are fast it doesnt feel like im driving a true sports car. like 3000gt or 300zx
fakyuba 3 years ago
... wow. That poor 4th Gen Eclipse got murdered. VR4 FTW.
Arbalest73 3 years ago 2
When will mhi ever make a 6cylinder with twin turbochargers again oh and dont forget that spanking awd platform. sure they make evos but their ugly sedan with huge spoiler and high tops wich increases drag. also a 4cylinder with single turbo lags a lot sure it might put almost the same hp but it will definitely need a big fuel system.
651excalibur 3 years ago
was that a race? The vr-4 is mitsubishis top of the line proformance shit lol I cant wait to get a vr-4 haha the evo's just dont cut it for me =D gt's are a legend lol
pappakid2095 3 years ago 2
was that new 4 cyl or v6 version of ecplise
jayguy173 3 years ago
iceman your fucken retarded if you have a tt fwd 3000gt sl you won't loose traction unless you don't know hot to lauch, then you get wheelspin!!Im thinking its got to go over 400hp to do alot of wheelspin on a fwd..my guess?
tribalforrealz 3 years ago
hobeeho is a retard even if yuou have a fwd TT guess what all it's gonna do is spin the tires so you might as well sack up grow some balls and buy a vr4 istead of a shitty GT FWD
iceman90lives 3 years ago
you make it sound like money grows on trees..not everyone can afford a vr4 especially paying for the insurance ..(3000gt sl 95) daily driver
KerryDoan 3 years ago
im 19 and my insurance company wants to charge me 3k a YEAR for it as a daily and 1k more a year for a weekend car 3000gt vr-4(((is listed as a grand touring car aka luxury so its not priced with a supra 300zx...etc its wayy lower
ZCalderone 3 years ago
yeah mines about 3,500+ cnd a year
KerryDoan 3 years ago
retard.. the vr-4 is AWD so u probably get a little tire spin thats it, get ur facts right the vr4 is awd.. repeat A-W-D.. ALL WHEEL DRIVE
vosolokoviteh 3 years ago
there are hundreds of fwd tt out there.. everyone of them is satisfied with it.. not everyone wants to sell there car and buy a vr4
and no a tt converstion doesnt cost that much
hobeeho 3 years ago
for a 3000gt it costs quite a bit, turbos, piping, intercoolers, all the internals that need to be swapped out plus tuning. id say 4k or so at the minimum.
dhillskier75 3 years ago
You don't have to swap out internals. A DOHC 3000GT can be TT'd for an AVERAGE of about 1 grand using stock parts off of VR-4's. It doesn't even need to be tuned. Trust me. There are numerous writeups available as well.
memphetic 3 years ago
the dohc 6g72 is a high compression engine to make up for it not being forced inducted. if u turbo a high compression engine, its not goin to blow right away, but the stress on the interals will be huge compared to a proper set up.
dhillskier75 3 years ago
Well, sure - it's a 10:1 engine vs. an 8:1 engine. You won't be able to run near as high boost pressure. Generally people run around 8 psi with stock parts.
memphetic 3 years ago
i got a 3000gt as well vr4 kills,3000gt can burn alot of the cars in the streets....i seen a 3000gt burn a skyline.
mexican707 4 years ago
did you just say FWD tt? why in gods name would you waist all your money swapping in a TT engine when you can buy a stock vr-4 for the same if not cheaper?
xmuzzx 4 years ago
yeah i know man
KerryDoan 4 years ago
Any of you clowns who think this is an Eclipse GT need to eat a dick. Its clearly a gutless stock GS. Just another ricer with nice rims and some f&f neons, giving the 4g eclipse a bad name. Race a GT with a few bolt ons from a roll and its a whole new race. Parasitic power loss will dog that vr4. This is like putting a 5.0 against a bone stock civic.
Ricoswave0312 4 years ago
lol my 3000gt fwd tt will own this stupid eclipse any day...3000gt are the best looking car STOCK without any bolt on. u stupid fucks need to own one then start talking shit,u guys probly dont even own a freakin car fucken bums
hobeeho 4 years ago 2
With grammar like that, I highly doubt you own any car at all.
weggy123 3 years ago
check out my videos.. why the hell would i wanna lie about having a car.. thats just pathetic..and what do you own? a civic you probly dont even own shit
i bought my whole kit for 2k
hobeeho 3 years ago
vr4 kills.
Fuck the eclipses.
chriscoleisgod11 4 years ago 3
the 4g63 eclipses are capable of more power than any 3000gt
onekilla301 4 years ago
RAce the vr4 against a DSM. It will be a different outcome.
keslerkaiyu 4 years ago
wasnt that a dsm vs vr4 that we just saw?
KerryDoan 4 years ago
DSM = 1990-1999 Eclipses + Galant VR4s. not all eclipses are DSMs.
ATown888 4 years ago
DSM=MITSUBISHI!!!
DIMONDSTARMOTORSS
have you ever seen a Mitsubishi symbol before?!
blackcky 3 years ago
I own a DSM, a 1990 Eclipse GSX, so i have in fact seen the symbol before. Diamond-Star motors was a joint venture between Mitsubishi Motors and Chrysler. their name is a combination of the three DIAMONDS for Mitsu and the pentaSTAR for Chrys, thus DIAMOND-STAR. all cars produced by this company are called DSMs. so, like said before your dumbass decided to speak, DIAMOND-STAR MOTORS is not just Mitsubishi, its a combination of the two companies. refer to my first comment for cars that are DSMs.
ATown888 3 years ago
Good call guy.
blackcky 3 years ago
blackcky, DSM doesn't mean just mitusbishi. DSM cars were built in the normal Illinois plant. ALL 3000GT's were made in Nagoya JAPAN. Therefore NOT a DSM. Read up on wiki about it, it may blow your mind...
rollingboombox 3 years ago 2
ahha.I soooo did that last night!
lmao.yea,
I have been corrected.
thanks!=D
(and for not being a smart ass about it like any other person would have.)
lol
blackcky 3 years ago
glad that there are some people out there that are willing to actually listen, be educated, and not get pissed when corrected
rollingboombox 3 years ago 3
Comparison of ASS and FINGER
MRcoolP 4 years ago
Did you just say the new eclipse is better looking that a vr4? YOUR ASS IS STUPID
TikiFerrari 4 years ago
the vr4 is faster than the new eclipse and I have one, but the eclipse is alot better looking than a 3000gt, and with bolt ons and some minor mods I beated vr4's without nos
fitnessboyPR 4 years ago
No way. Top of the line Eclipse got like 260hp FWD and a VR4 pushin 320 ponies with twin turbo AND AWD. You don't got minor mods, you got some expensive stuff. That, or you raced a fake VR4 that was a 3000GT SL.
th4t1dud3 4 years ago
wut tha fukk r u guyz talkin about tha fat guy was the 1 in the new eclipse look at the front end so the 3000gt did in fact win!
thetrapboy 4 years ago
and about the video (lol) hes not fat, hes just big boned. im willing to bet that vr4 is far from stock. did anyone notice the compressor surge? put a better driver in the 3000gt and i bet it wouldnt have been a contest. (not like it was anyways)
3kgt5 4 years ago
ok lets get a few things straight- why does everyone say vr4s are overweight when supras almost weigh the same and EVERYONE sucks them off? vr4= 3700lbs supra= 3500ish... i own a vr4 with a few upgrades and i dynoed at 350 WHEEL HORSE POWER. please please please research a car before u talk about it.
3kgt5 4 years ago
ye a 3000gt weight + that fat dude in there OWNED.!!! rofl nah my bad sorry
mizonee 4 years ago
nice driving eclipse
jamazing14 4 years ago
ya it sucks that 3kgt are so fricken heavy they should of just made them rwd and they would be sick, but still they are a good bang for ur buck about 10k for an average vr4 then dump 2.5k in turbos, new injectors and a 100 dollar intercooler off ebay and ul have one fast ass car that cant be beat for the price and u can buy some flashy wheels to save some weight if u want to
jclarkesbcglobal 4 years ago
You people know almost nothing based on your comments. And you just sit here and comment on peoples videos...guessing at things, thinking your right.. LOL..Twisted3kgt is the only person here commenting with some fuckin average knowledge about hp numbers for the 2nd gen 3kgt. WHP and HP are two different specs, you noob ricers.
MionieEvo 4 years ago
No kidding, flywheel HP is going to be the one that the manufacturers throw around, but it's just a meaningless number. Most VR-4's get anywhere from 240 up to around 265 on an AWD dyno. Those are the averages, some get considerably less, but this is usually due to poor tuning, boost leaks, etc. Lighter wheels and a lighter driveshaft cause a slight increase due to less rotational inertia in the driveline.
cb62fcni 4 years ago
usually its a 15-17% cut from estimated crank HP and actual WHP
omegafromalpha 4 years ago
dude whatever they have fucking 300 hp...or 320 depending on the years...twizted3kgt
cbr600rrmaniac 4 years ago
ive worked on both of these car models, like everyone is saying, the vr-4 is 320hp, the eclipse is 260hp, assuming a 20-30% drivetrain loss the vr-4 would dyno 290ish and the eclipse 220-230ish, so yeah the 400extra pounds on the vr-4 is not a factor, although the twin turbo vr-4 shined at top end with the turbos fully spooled. but we already knew this.
totalreason 4 years ago
Most completely stock VR4's dyno around 230-240ish, on rare occassion 250-260 awhp. Overrated and more drivetrain loss than that.
twizted3kgt 4 years ago
Nice races btw. I like how those Eclipse's look, now if only they would throw AWD and a turbo at them...
twizted3kgt 4 years ago
are u retarded? Dont blow bullshit when u know nothin, stock 3000GT's dyno at 222 and that a base model, now u are tryin to say the twin turbo only gives 20 more horsepower. drivetrain loss won't take almost 100 horsepower away from the car
aeg12aeg 4 years ago
LOL, am I retarded? You think factory numbers are whp? haha. Do some research nub. wow. "dont blow bullshit when u know nothing" lol i've owned 2 of them for the past 5 years, what a moron. How many dynos on stock VR4's have you seen? (obviously none) Just another idiot kid commenting on youtube...btw awd = 20-30% drivetrain loss on average...whats 30% of 320? ...i'll just tell ur retard ass 96 hp.
twizted3kgt 4 years ago
base ~ 165
SL ~ 222
vr4 ~ 320
hovaswitness 4 years ago
base and sl are FWD
vr4 is top of the line Twin turbo AWD
KerryDoan 4 years ago
GTO RULEZ!!!
LUCAGTO 4 years ago
VR4 maybe 270 to the wheels (AWD is a bitch) wight 3950lbs
Eclipse with I/E/H around 280-290 wheel hp. Weight 3575lb. mod the vr4 a little and you might have 320 to the wheels but you still have 400lbs more wight.
360jeepboy 4 years ago
try free boost mod, k&n, DP, and a CBE and its more around 350AWHP and then try it from a dig, I dont think that extra 400lbs will mean alot.
jefferyleo76 4 years ago
Try racing a truely modded 06 eclipse GT. The outcome I assure you will be different.
360jeepboy 4 years ago
VR4: 320 HP, stock. But with mods, lots more!
A modded 4G eclipse will just lose more slowly...
mbunds 4 years ago
VR-4's are amazing, yea the new eclipse GT's are fast but a 3000gt is just a whole nother league, no comparisonthere.
philbrownell05 4 years ago
my friend has an orange 05 eclipse, 4 cyl automatic....i pity him, it cost like 25K and pretty much sucks. feels like driving a big ass tank, really hard to see what is around you too. 3000GT turbos are sick!!!
burningbushmen 4 years ago
I just want to know what the eclipse driver was thinking, does he like embarassment???
westdesmoines 4 years ago
lol i lik the 06 eclipse driver, he just wont give up!
importfighter 4 years ago
iahiah 3000 gt é demais!!! awesome car!
luisfelipee 4 years ago
the new eclipse would beat the hell out of the new si, the gtv6 with the mivec engine 267hp, nice.mitsubishi rules, honda sucks.
mitsuevo8mr 4 years ago
not a chance
chronosc4 5 years ago
not gonna lie, 3000gt are still monsters on the road but what is this guy smoking, there is no chip for 4g eclipses.
tofutube 5 years ago
lol "performed on a private track in an undisclosed location" right...
quickz187 5 years ago
ya.. thats why you dont buy a non-turbo mitsubishi.
SuperchargedShaw 5 years ago
Finally! I've been waiting for a VR4 vs New Eclipse video. Very nice. VR4 all the way.
sh1znack 5 years ago
fuck u and ur pokemon dude!!
javimx6 5 years ago
yeah my eclipse is stock too and my car still bets civics I wanna be the very best like no one ever was To catch them is my real test To train them is my cause I will travel across the land
searching far and wide Each pokemon to understand the power that's inside Pokemon! its you and me I know its my destiny, Pokemon! Oh you're my best friend in a world we must defend Pokemon! a heart so true Our courage will pull us through,
hmongskater 5 years ago
lmao gayass fob
finalheavenvr4 5 years ago
That's hilarious.
LordSesshomaru86 5 years ago
there you go abuda the eclipse was not stock after all.
yourtubeyourass21 5 years ago
no CosseyOwns the last post was to abuda not to you. Also was that eclipse stock CosseyOwns?
yourtubeyourass21 5 years ago
No, it is not stock. The owner claimed to have a chip, exhaust, intake, and blue underbody neons.
CosseyOwns 5 years ago
He Did have all that, i Know the kid
zooyorkguy1985 3 years ago
What proof do you have that the 3s was modded and the eclipse is stock? Do you know both parties personally? If not then no point of making it all up.
yourtubeyourass21 5 years ago
I talked to the Eclipse owner before the occurance, and I am very good friends w/ the 3/S owner. If not, why would I be in his car? The 3/S has twin EVO III 16's, supporting mods, 3" turbo back, going to twin after the "cat." And other random stuff.
CosseyOwns 5 years ago
bitches listen the 3000GT is modifigg, the eclipse is total stock, STOCK , 3000GT NOOOOO stock
abuda222 5 years ago
CosseyOwns OWNS!!
yourtubeyourass21 5 years ago
3000gt yah-ha
ballawoof 5 years ago
well no duh the 4g eclipses suck go try and race a 1 or 2 g eclipse bet youll change your mind
killa2k1 5 years ago
This VR-4 will shit all over most 1G/2G DSMs.
CosseyOwns 5 years ago
It depends what the GST or GSX has done to it. A RS or GS wouldn't stand a chance unless it was built to handle shit loads of boost since the GS and RS aren't even built for turbo from the factory. I got mad respect for VR4's so don't get me wrong there.
screamingdemon 5 years ago
what a silly comment considering the VR4 is the eclipses bigger stronger brother. also called the "flagship" of mitsubishi.
deagle50ae 5 years ago
haha!!! vr-4 all da way! w00t!
BorahLion 5 years ago
LoL!!! VR-4s are the shit man.. have always wanted a VR-4... =D that Eclipse had no chance at all... hahaha...
ChengyM 5 years ago