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  • If Jeff's using a traditional shakehand grip, does he turn his wrist over for the backhand?

  • @XCallXMeXmatt I don't really change my grip too much for the backhand compared to the forehand. I do use some wrist on different backhand strokes.

  • how do i do a fh loop down the line and fh loop from the backhand corner digonally to my opponent bh court?i can do the fh loop crosscourt from the middle but the problem lies in down the line fh and backhand corner using my fh to hit to my opponent bh side,my loops n drive have sidespin on the ball.plesae advice as having sidespin on normall balls is wrong

  • @MrMingyong24 Great questions. We don't really have all the room we need here to answer them in detail. The best thing to do is go to our website and use the Ask the Coach section. You can also search through the answers there. We actually have a video response on hitting your forehand down the line!

  • would it be a good idea to aim for the edge/white line of the net because of topspins upward drag? also to play this faster do i take longer backswing or swing faster? awesome vid,

  • @Detherocable By generating topspin you can actually aim a bit higher. The topspin will drag the ball down and give you a bigger margin for error and hence your shot will be more consistent. To make the shot faster I think it's better to keep your swing essentially the same but just get your bat moving faster by using your legs, your waist, your arm and your wrist.

  • which part of the paddle should the ball come into contact with and which part of the ball should the paddle come into contact with the ball?

  • @handzrshouting Great question. We have a lot more room to discuss questions in the Ask the Coach section of our website. If you can, ask the question there and we'll answer it in detail for you.

  • Beauty! :) Topspin is amazing. =) Nice lessons. Thanks alot. =)

  • @ttpetiyyy You're welcome. Good luck with your Table Tennis!

  • damn i want to know who is returning the ball?!

  • nice blocking coach Alois...

  • Tnx Pingskills... upload more..

  • the vid is great but i think this days it's better to use more forearm and not the whole arm. look at timo boll or zhang jike they don't use much upperarm because you have more time to get ready for the next ball.

    But it is better to use the technique you are most consistend and you like more

    sorry for my bad english but i am austrian

  • @nike1717 Thanks for your input.

  • @nike1717 Yes the original technique HAD to be a full movement because the tabletennis rubbers were only really grippy. Nowadays we have rubbers like tenergy, you have to h it the ball only a little to get it moving.

  • @nike1717 Great Video. About your comment I think It depends on your level. Timo and Zhang can play shots very fast and short, because they are elite level. For begginers it is better to start the stroke slow and wide to get more consistent, then with a lot practice they can finish as Boll or Jike...fast and short.

  • Is it better to have sidespin and topspin or is it just better with topspin only???

  • @Rastaguy8 The topspin only is going to be a little more consistent, but adding some sidespin can make it harder for your opponent. I would recommend learning a fairly normal topspin without any sidespin first and then adding in some sidespin only after you can do that consistently.

  • Great advise! However, you can let your hand drop a little bit lower between the strokes, or in another words make your initial position lower (110-120 degrees rather than 90). This way you can acquire that much more momentum for a more powerful and spinier stroke - or same amount of spin and speed with less effort.

    That is also the reason many top players have the wrist twisted downwards on the initial position. That is, the vertical axis of the blade is almost parallel with the forearm.

  • @Lestat103 Thanks for your thoughts.

  • Hey guys when i see the topspin from side on you hit the ball pretty high, aren't you supposed to hit the ball a little lower?

    (Im having pretty much trouble with the topspin:P)

  • @Survive0The0Hell You don't need to. In fact the higher on the bounce you hit the ball, the better your angle to hit the ball onto your opponent's side of the table. You will need to brush over the top of the ball more than if you waited till it had dropped. If you let the ball drop then you need to lift it up and cannot hit as strong a shot.

    Does this help clear things up?

  • @pingskills Yes i understand, thanks for the quick answer :) Im gonna try all your tips out on the next training!

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  • @Survive0The0Hell good luck!

  • Very nice video, thanks. How do we hit the top spin again deep backhand chops? also if the chop doesnt get very far from the table after bounce, what is the best way to hit it? it gets boring to hit back and forth chops...thanks :)

  • @nadal731 We have a video on the forehand topspin off backspin, take a look at that. Basically against backspin your stroke needs to be more vertical to help lift the backspin over the net. You still need a brushing contact. If they push the ball short so you can't play a topspin, your options are to push the ball or flick the ball. It is hard to continuously push the ball short so you usually don't have to wait too long for a chance to attack.

  • @pingskills I just cant believe an Olympic coach replied :) thank you very much...

  • @nadal731 you're welcome! If you have any more questions try "Asking the Coach" on our website. We check the questions there more often. We love talking about Table Tennis so it's a lot of fun for us.

  • WOW!! how to you all do that??!?? Each time I did it the ball end up out of the table.

  • @MrMr123avatar To stop the ball going over the back of the table, you need to make sure you are brushing the ball to generate topspin. It is the topspin that will cause the ball to dip down. You also need a decent rubber on your bat that can generate spin. It does take a while so keep at it!

  • To all of the people criticising the technique of these players, they are puposely playing slower and more complacently to SHOW and DEMONSTRATE these various techniques so that OTHER PEOPEL can LEARN THEM. Thus, these videos are meant to be EDUCATIONAL rather than EXHIBITIONAL in nature. If you want to watch top notch performances, go watch these men in the olympics when they are trying their best.

  • 1:05 why you hit the ball so high? or i'm blind? :|

  • Its all fine with the topspin block and stuff like this, what i have a problem with is when i try to smash the ball against a chop the ball always ends up in the net..... can you help me out..... Thanks Alot.

    Love the vids....

  • @diskfrisker Yeah it can be difficult. Because of the backspin you need to lift the ball with a brushing action. Watch our video "Forehand Topspin Against Backspin" to see how this can be done.

  • @diskfrisker It is tough to smash a back spin ball, largely because a smash is a "flat" stroke that doesn't generate much topspin and a back spin ball has great "back" rotation. Smashing a back spin ball is like trying to return a backspin serve with your paddle "open" and facing your opponent; the ball will grip the surface of your rubber and dive into the net. Like PS said, you have to "brush the ball" reversing the backspin into topspin, not hitting flat, stroke up, brushing the rubber :)

  • @diskfrisker

    You defeat spin with angle according to the great Japanese player and coach Ogimura, so when you smash a chop you need to open your bat (like a plate)...maybe start at 35 degrees swing through from hip to about collar bone height. This creates a forehand flat hit with very good pace. Note there is not much topspin on the shot so may times it is dumped into the net even if your opponent counters the ball. Hope this helps!

  • @iandemagi Hey thanks man even though i already learnt it but thanks for the help :)

  • @diskfrisker u cant , unless u have a very powerfull spin that will rise the ball , but the best way is not to smash , but to chop it back

  • @HellexTV U can man if the chop lands short try hitting the ball flat it will work, but it doesn't always work... :-P i guess the angle of your bat matters

  • Question: If I use the Pin hold, should I use this way too? Thanks

  • @jerbear938

    i know you're not asking me, but i'd say it's a matter of personal preference. If I were you use the chinese-style forehand loop, which, i think, is a little harder to learn at first, but tends to have a lot more power immediately after getting the technique right, whereas with european-style (the style in this video), you kind of have to learn how to add more power. Then again, you can still develop LOTS of power with the euro-style loop.

  • @jerbear938

    If you'd like to know, I am a C-pen player (Chinese-penholder style player, which uses RPB), and I use Chinese-style looping, which has proven to be VERY effective, despite my noobish qualities. (I've only been playing for about 1 year and 4-5 months. I had a lot of trouble learning Chinese-style loop because there are very few videos/explanations of it.

    BTW, don't take my word for it on the euro-style looping stuff that I said earlier. I don't know much about the euro-style loop.

  • @DaKrazedKyubizt The basic principles are the same. The start and finish of the stroke should be the same. Also try and watch as many videos as you can of the top Chinese players who use the Penhold grip. If you can get the picture of how they play in your head, it will help you develop the correct technique. In this case it is good to try and imitate their stroke.

  • bad spin

  • @bram1211 In what way?

  • Hi i've been watching pingskills videos. and they have helped me alot. but my only problem is returning smashes. i try to block but the ball flies away. what should i do?

  • @yobmas722 If they are smashing a high ball then take a look at our lesson on the lob. This might help you. If it is an aggressive forehand off a ball that is not that high then you can use a shot called a block. We have lessons on the block for both forehand and backhand.

    Take a look at these lessons on our website and let me know if they help you out.

  • Hello Jeff! I Seriously Need Help! My Friend Keeps On Topspinning When Ever I Return His Smash! Its Almost Impossible To Return It. How Should I Make Him Stop Topspinning? Thank You!

  • @ultrahan123 Hi, the best way is to start by serving the ball short so it will bounce twice on the table. Then you have a good chance to make the first attack. Also when he serves, try to return the ball short again so he cannot attack. Take a look at our lessons on pushing as we talk about the short push there.

    You can also try using the Ask the Coach section of our website where you can easily track all of your questions.

    Regards,

    Jeff.

  • @ultrahan123 hmm pratice your backhand block a lot, up until a point where u feel comfortable returning the ball wherever you want. And from there.. i think you know what to do ^_^ He topspin, you block to backhand (remember to add a little force and aim the angle down a little bit more) or you let him topspin one more, and if you do it fast enough, you should be able to force him to use backhand block or backhand topspin, then you just smash it on to his forehand. try it xD

  • @ultrahan123 You also need to improve on how to handle topspin. For instance, you not only block it consistently, but also move him around, change the pace (drop shot, force block, normal block...), change the spin(chop block, side spin drop shot, in-side-out block, or a weak but strong topspin block which means at a lot of top spin without adding speed), even counter attack.

    So either he has really good loop or he pays for casual topspin. you add preasure to his top spin.

  • thanks jeff

  • @T00nL1nk Your Welcome

  • short shorts :)

  • these guys suck

    im better than they are :D

    im srry bt its true dude :S

    i have never lost a ping pong tournament

    BANANA POWER

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  • @felippp12 u dont say?

  • @felippp12 u dont say?

  • @Djoko1972 yea i say dude XD

  • @Djoko1972 well actually i was joking, but im pretty good and i think im better than you, and the sponsors are for tennis

    ;D

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  • Muy buenos todos los videis , gracias por los tips, saludos

  • listo

  • xDDDD

    bad

    thats no top SPIN

    the guy make a shot

    and no spin in the ball is no spin

    xDDD

  • @Travianer110 learn how to speak english before leaving a dumbass comment. Bitch.

  • thanks so much.I learned a lot.--now my opponents say "i got skills"..ping skills!

  • When I am using this stroke I am hitting the ball over the edge of the table almost everytime, is there any tips you have to keep the ball on the table?

  • @remodrummer99 im probably not as good as this guy but when u try to do this make sure ur body is in a correct position and make good clean fast moves hoped i helped :)

  • is this what they call a loop shot?

  • @TheJohneezy No.

    A loop is a defensive hit where you hit the ball from further away and you send it high in the air before it lands on the table.

  • @gpapazoglou13 actually I think youre thinking of a lob shot. because I know for sure that a loop is not a defensive hit, but I just don't know whether its the same as a forehand topspin hit.

  • @TheJohneezy Ok. You were right.

    I looked it up and a loop is not a lob shot as i thought. We refer to a loop for a "looped" topspin. A spin that usually has more curve and spin that power.

  • @gpapazoglou13 thanks alot man that makes sense.

  • @TheJohneezy yes

  • forehand topspin is easy who else thinks so

  • and they are just practicing ..they are hitting the ball with so much precision...it's just amazing...i wish i will become a good player soon

  • i wanna see a video of you two playing against each other. not like a match but like just for fun.

  • Also, how low can the ball get before you have to stop using that stroke? And what stroke do you have to use when the ball gets too low?

  • Also, how low can the ball get before you have to stop using that stroke? And what stroke do you have to use when the ball gets too low?

  • Also, how low can the ball get before you have to stop using that stroke? And what stroke do you have to use when the ball gets too low?

  • @remodrummer99

    If you're an advanced player you should hit the ball on its highest point. If you're a beginner, you should hit the ball when it's starting to come down.

  • @ixixyixix Thanks for that tip. Is there a certain stroke for when the ball gets too low to use the forehand loop?

  • @remodrummer99

    Definately. The lower the ball gets, the more power you should play with if you want to lift the ball over the net. This doesn't mean you have to hit the ball hard. It means your stroke should be longer. Start a bit under table height, and end a bit above your head. The lower the ball, the lower you start and the higher you end of course.

  • @ixixyixix Thanks, this helped me a lot.

  • Do you have to hit the ball at the top of the bounce?

  • gay

  • why cause you can't play? lol

  • +1 :D

  • Le top pas tiré du tout ... 0 élan = 0 vitesse Tend ton bras derrière Use ton poignet Fou toi sur la pointe des pieds au lieu d'être comme un baton Ca sera déjà mieux pour donner une leçon! ALL GUYS CHECK VIDEO DVD LESSON OF REAL PLAYER WALDNER PERSSON SAMSONOV BOLL Not about that...
  • woo

  • please make a video on how to choose a good ping pong racket

  • Slow motion is very FUN

  • this is a great channel!

  • i rekon i get alot more top spin, power and higher bounce making it harder to return, all you have to do is follow through a bit more and incorporate your body into it giving it more power.

  • if you throw too much of your body into it then you might get more spin and power but you lose control. Also too much will cause your recovery time to be way too long. If your opponent blocks your "monster kill shot" then you're pretty screwed if you're off balance and out of position. You'll be forced to block and then he'll perform his own kill shot.

  • this is in melbourne isn't it

  • I love how people are giving instructions and tips to this guy. He is an olympian!

  • @chickenandbaconclub no he's not. he's just an average player with average technique.

  • @kizaman Trolliiiiin'?

  • @chickenandbaconclub No, william henzel is... this is guy is just average...

  • Nice forehand but a little more flexibility will bring more spin.

  • its a picture perfect hit, you dont know anything

  • lol there is no Spin inside his Topspin^^

  • rotfl.. shorts is normal .. ; o butterfly ; )

  • sexy thighs

  • Nice lesson! Just like to say when staying in 90° position with your arm there's a lot of power going lost because you have to take the power out of your shoulder! For a powefull explosif Topsin with a lot of Spin in it, you need to take the power from your underarm and your handankel as well! The power comes from your legs throuth your body over the shoulder in your underarm and handankel to bee explosiv! Just be sure to get back quick in your start position again!

  • wtf.. he's only in boxers D:!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • you don't get out very much, do you?

  • is he playing against ray romano?

  • sloooow mooootioooon shooort shoooorrts.

  • i love his shorts lol

  • Now that's clever....

  • ooh i see now! thanks for the tutorial vid, it really helped me :)

  • I prefer to have a bit more movement of the torso, the upperbody. This spinning is a bit too much played with the arm.

  • nice

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  • his swing form is so compact but his shot is so good as far as i look at through this video! i will imitate his swing form next time!

  • Wow nice vid mate 5*. Check out my channel btw

  • Coz you're gay!

  • Correct me if im wrong. But why do i feel that his elbow keeps going into his side too much?

  • Is this the Chinese or European Loop? Can't tell....

  • euro i think

  • Notice that the returning ball is topspin, meaning that if you try to spin at ball at too high a degree, it will spin out. To table tennis players, speed is also important, and therefore a small movement is required for fast paced games.

  • Hey guys, pls go to the channel " The18Verve" to watch table tennis videos in HD quality!!

  • cool shorts

  • Thats the good answer to the shit from expertvillage lol.

    Keep the good work up guys!

    On Pinskill videos you can learn much as a beginner.

    And most important: They show a good technique and not that crap stuff like expertvillage xD

  • yep, it's amazing how bad the expertvillage videos are for pong

  • The guy looked funny XD

  • no esta mal pero el brazo para hacer el topspin o luzping deves el brazo a un angulo de 180º

  • looks like robin soderling

  • I smell trolls

  • *table tennis*

  • your an idiot they're demonstrating not showing off and jeff plumb is an Olympian im sure he can hit way faster than you

  • everyone has there own technique. i rape with my technique

  • my serve is sooo efective and easy i never saw someone blocked it sucsesfully

    i never use backhand always forhand

    wit that technolique i rape the enemy anal

  • if you people want more power rather than spin you should make a large backswing

  • Actually the technic is pretty good...

    but you can generate much more spin, if you enlarge the angle from your upper arm to your lower arm!

    The angle at the moment seems like 90°, but should bei around 170°.

    But all in alle nice videos!!!

  • his technique sucks

  • i dont like his technique ..

  • i play badminton tabletennis and tennis all competitively and i have no problem with one of them affecting the other...

  • thats sick i would play more ping pong but it fucks up my strokes in tennis

  • same problem here, it atrophies your technique a bit

  • yeah i mean im not bad at ping pong but if i play to much when i play tennis it feels like im hitting a brick

  • lol, works kind of the same way with other sports too. Try playing badminton for a little while, then switch over to hitting a tennis ball with a tennis racket, seems like a million pounds.

  • haha yeah dude exactly!

  • Its the same way vise versa too!!! If you play tennis for a long time and then go to ping pong i always over hit the dang ball!! xD

  • i play both tennis and table tennis i have no problems from crossing because of coaching in both i have different strokes, it's from tennis to table tennis that messes me up i'm too stiff and have heavy hands sending easy pushes long or loops. It helps me in that from tennis i keep my other guiding arm up, but from table tennis to tennis i have no problems apart from the difference in weight of ball.

  • awesome. i learned play table tennis very good with them

  • LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • go and f..k your waldner somewhere else! i think one coment would be enough!

  • true xD

  • In effect what you are teaching may stifle a potential world champion. You may want to revise your course a bit.

  • Obviously these videos are for TT amateurs who want to learn the fundamentals. It is a given that in practice, strokes might look a little different. (In tennis, Nadal's forehand is different than Federer's).

    Potential world champions who need to tune their technique already have coaches. Pingskills never claimed to be a real coach replacement. They give qualified (and quality) free advice that helps you get the basics.

    You may want to tone down your criticisms of an olympic team a bit.

  • Then that should have been said in the intro. Its deceiving. Of course we all as humans have different bone structures, lengths, etc. But 90 degrees is wrong in general.

  • So now lets talk about the world champions. They do not subscribe to what you say in practice. Examples: Waldner (the best) , Ma Lin,. etc. please explain

  • Great, but you still didnt answer my question. Why do the world champions not follow your regime, advice and in fact oppose it (ie - penholder)

  • Sorry people. See Waldner for a real live lesson.

  • You know nothing about table tennis. You probably thought the penholder grip was inferior.

  • Lets focus on what Waldner does. No 90 degree angles, etc. How about the laws of angular momentum?

  • I don't see Waldner doing anything you .say

  • he is just doing rallies or multiple ball, why would he use more of his waist.

  • ur bat is 90 degree....the ball won be high??

  • can you guys make a vid about penhold moves and serves, because im penhold and i play good but i need better serves

  • i love pinping

  • why did you dump her? your reason is she is asian. What a RaCiSt!!!!!!!!!

  • Everyone is a racist to some degree.

  • that's a fact

  • not true. without the followthrough you probably didn't hit the ball properly in the first place.

  • 这个 视频里面的 人 是错误的