Chabad in particular and hasidism in general are messianic movements and are thus pagan. Real Jews are NOT connected to chabad and chabad is mainly a counterfeit type of judaism
real jews mainly aren't in new pagan messianic sects. some messianic sects are xtianity, shabtai tzvism, hasidism, na nachs and of course chabad. chabad uses torah the way the catholic church uses torah. a chabad can not be counted in a minyan. its fine if you are a pagan chabad i'm just saying its not jewish.
thus chabad is antisemitic because it seeks to lure actual jews away from being jewish.
chabad has a new revelation and is part of the hasidic pagan guru movement and is thus goyish. you wouldn'tunderstand this because you're not jewish.
the only thing that makes a jew jewish is yes being jewish. a dog can eat kosher and be shomer shabbos or the dog can eat trayf but its still a dog. cats can learn to bark and do special cat nigguns and wear funny hats but the cats are still cats.
Why doesn't Israel become an adult and rely on others for money and protection? The US has its own problems and can't afford a welfare case like Israel anymore.
hahahahahaha the US gives more money to muslim countries than israel, they give 1 billion a year to aid in addition to the 700 billion we send to them for their oil, again why are you singling out israel? go read about how much we give to pakistan and egypt and then kill yourself, you keep coming up with bullshit and i keep destroying you, how long do you want to do this?
Haha yourself. We give $23,240 per Israeli citizen from US citizens. The average aid that we give is $500 per person. Again why should we give $5,000,000,000 to Israel EVERY year when Americans need the money more?
We shouldn't give any money except food and medicine in aid.
you give 3 billion a year, most of it is credits to buy weapons from american companies like lockheed martin, obamas budget deficit is 1.4 trillion alone, 3 billion is nothing, why do we give money to saudi arabia, who funds terror against the US, thats the real question
No speculation. Prove that I said the Arabs wanted the two state solution all the time. I never said that. I just think that the two state solution is good compromise right now - for both sides.
U.S. Arms Sales to Israel End Up In China, Iraq
commondreams(.)org/views02/0509-07(.)htm
Israel Second Only To Russia In Providing Arms To China
Israel reverse engineers US technology and sells it states hostile to US. The Chinese F-10 fighter is an almost identical version of Israel's Lavi. The Lavi was a joint Israeli-American design, but financed mostly with American aid.
When the Navy EP-3E surveillance plane was forced to land in China after a Chinese F-8 fighter flew into its propeller, photos show Israeli built Python 3 missiles under the fighter's wings.
1. What your saying is just allegations, theres no proof just speculation. furthermore the canards are only similiar, this means nothing, but if true, whoever was responsible should be punished, but only if true
2. Israel, like any other country can sell its weapons it develops itself to whoever it wants, in fact it needs to do this to keep its weapons programs funded, furthemore any classified weapons sold to israel are under tight control, ie israel cant fix the computers on the f35's
are you simple or what, i keep telling you that the palestinians could have had their own state for the last 60 years, they rejected it everytime, anyone with half a brain knows that the two state solution is the only solution, but right now its not feasible, because the palestinians are fighting with eachother, fatah is weak and hamas refuses the two state solution,
so the point is what is israel supposed to do?? thats the point they are stuck behind a rock and a hard place
1. I thought we were talking about Israel taking technology and selling it to the Chinese. But you seemed to want to change subject.
2. Hamas has already said that it will end armed struggle if Israel quits territories. But Israel has NEVER stopped expanding its settlements. If it stops it one place, it grows it twice as big in another,
3. So, maybe Israel should stop settlement activity and the apartheid way of doing things.
2. your a liar, hamas offered a 10 yr truce in exchange for what your saying, after which they would attack israel after training and weaponizing for 10 years,
3. Israel should stop settlement activity, i agree with you, but what you call apartheid is for safety and again, you ignore the facts that israeli arabs are treated as equals
furthermore, these "methods" have saved thousands of lives, so why would they stop?? to please you?
here were going in circles, this is getting nowhere, why dont you tell me what YOU would do if you were in charge in Israel, dont bullshit me, tell me something thats feasible, not something that would lead to israels suicide, be honest
And Arab money that has gone into violence has not helped. Violence begets violence. Hamas keeps recruiting people, making lies, spreading hate and violence. It does nothing to make Israel believe it. i'm not saying that the thousands of Palestinians dead in Gaza dont matter but I'm saying let's look at why, and unfortunately Hamas does not help the situation to be any easier.
you get oil from saudi arabia, but you pay them for it stupid, they dont give it to you for free, over 700 billion a yr, why do we have to give them a billion more a year i aid, when they use that money against us, most of the 9/11 hijackers were form saudi arabia, suadi arabia spend millions a year on propaganda against americans, but your too stupid worrying about giving money to israel who is an ally to worry about that, dumbass
zero, but the children that are killed their blood is on the hands of hamas who uses human shields and fires from populated areas, the fact is israel was protecting itself from 8 yrs of everyday rocket fire which killed 32 ppl and injured over 600, cause millions in damage and destroyed the economy in the south
and its funny how you people ignore the fact that they actually stopped firing rockets into israel after the war, its the only thing terrorists understand
good point. Like Dresden and Nagasaki, we really showed the fascists by burning all those children alive. Keep the people in Gaza as hostages we can kill if the British intelligence EU funded Hamas fires bottle rockets at Israelis. Kill them all, let God sort it out......
a summary of yr argument? Very Paulianity, historically anyway.
1. nagasaki saved millions of lives, do you have any idea how many people would have died if the US invaded japan you moron, you have zero logic, what would you have israel do, just sit there and take rocket fire everyday?
2. if they were bottle rockets why did they kill 32 and hurt 600? why would israel spend hundreds of millions of iron dome? for fun?
3. if israel had this killem all attitude there would be more than 3k civilians killed in 10 years of fighting
its also funny to me how someone who lives in the US can criticize israel, you live on occupied land, how many indians had to die for you to live in america? how much land was stolen from mexico you stupid fuck
your a hypocrite, i hope and indian blows up the next cafe you go to, and then i hope the cops dont do anything about it,
in the end of the day the palestinians are only hostage to themselves and their poor leadership, like arafat who died a billionaire and rejected camp david
Youre kidding right. Immigrant Americans r somehow responsible for what the good Christian Euro trash did to the Indians and Africans.? and arafat my friend got his billions from where, who was paying him, and therefore who was he an agent of? Think before u sputter off your infantile christian pagan inanities..
you live in a stolen country go back to where you came from and give the indians their land back
Also in 2003, a team of American accountantshired by Arafat's own finance ministrybegan examining Arafat's finances. The team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the US and the Cayman Islands.
The head of the investigation stated that "although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And none of these dealings were made public."[93]
so who was paying him moron? no one he was stealing money from the palestinians, like today hamas steals aid and sells it to the population, they even tax the tunnels, gimme fact next time, not just you bs opinions or delusions
so the eu-us gives money to the palestine authority and he grafts a billion. meaning what, he stole from the people, or he took a big bribe from the people putting up the money, just like oil for food with kofi annan. same story. graft, bribes, corruption, thats the way of the middle east, and the usa. big deal. every dictator in the world not threatened by the nato forces is on the take.
hahahah the guy stole a billion dollars from his people and he is their hero, while they claimed the pals were starving are you kidding, his whore french wife gets money from the pa still and tried to get millions to maintain her lavish lifestyle, but they didnt give it to her
all this while he was encouraging these brainwashed pals to go blow themselves up, how is this irrelevant to you?
also he stole it from the taxes, not just from the aid,
exactly right , whores for the cia and british mi6. what else is new. like I said, so what. Just like Obama is selling America down the drain for Soros who funded him lock stock and barrel. Goodbye American superpower. welcome to the third world. welcome to the desert of the real.
what does the palestinian leadership stealing from their people and then telling them to go blow themselves up have to do with anything you said?
today hamas taxes the tunnels and steals aid and sells it to the people.
the pals could have had a state in the 30's, 48, 48-67, 2000, they rejected it everytime, the have greedy and poor leadership, today they are killing eachother
poor leadership right from the beginning, watch this
its well established that the radical Islamic groups in Palestine were initially funded by Israeli and western intel agencies, first as anti-Soviet force, then as classic colonial divide and conquer. Hamas/plo of course both receive substantial funding officially from eu. very little gets to the people of course. its designed to control their leadership , evetually Israel will become a multicultural, pluralistic state as did Soth Africa.
if israel becomes that then let it be, just as whites in america will become the minority, but again the point is the pals could have had their state anytime in the last 61 yrs, they rejected it everytime
they have poor leadership and all of them are corrupt, this is why they are in the position they are today
they choose the least of the colloborators with the occupation. Choosing an apartheid separation warsaw ghetto stte they rejected ,,,which may have been a mistake as Israel cannot function without their cheap labor. Tho now they r importing asians and africans to replace the palis.eventually a multistate confederation might emerge with rights for self dertimination for Jews and non-Jews alike----if the West permits it. They prefer the status quo (war profits)
arafat was offered all of gaza, 94% of west bank, what the hell are you talking about warsaw ghetto
from 48-67 there was no occupation why did they not create a state then?
and self determination? the israeli arabs have more freedoms than arabs in their own countries, they can vote, they serve in the knesset and have freedom of speech beyond their "brothers" in their own countries,
u see things that are not there
& no 1 has starved to death in gaza, dont compare it to a concentration camp
youre right, gaza is not like the warsaw ghetto. The nazis did not fire bomb family compounds into rubble killing innocents without regard in search of partisans, at least not as a partof official terror policy. that came later during ethnic cleansing/holocaust operations; which we will see no doubt in short time from the "Jewish" state.
hahaha your too funny, less than 3k civilians killed in the last 10 years, in a war in which hamas uses civilians as human shields, jordan killed 20k palestinians in 11 days during black september, arabs and muslims killed 500k civilians in darfur in 5 years.
you are delusional
how many indians had to dies so you can live in the US? Why dont you go back to where you came from your an occupier?
research the sudan opposition , who funds it, and if it is islamic, or instead allied with anti islamic forces who want a piece of the oil. darfur is all about oil, and chinas strategic preminence in africa. thats all. stop watching fox news for your brains sake.
and is any world of people all the same? by your views of israel, then I should do the same. If one arab or muslim blows themselves up, that must mean you're all violent people, all muslims are evil right? I dont think so.
There's good and bad in all sorts, and its important to remember that. Not all Israelis live in the West Bank, not all Israelis want war, most Israelis just want peace and security and are just as sick of the conflict as the surrounding people are.
Most Israelis will get there peace and security when they give back what they stole from us .... PALESTINE ALL OF IT IS ARAB COUNTRY... and only the jews who were there for many genarations living in peace with arabs are welcome ... All other eurojews who don not belong and are thieves need to get the hell out... VIVA PALESTINE !!!
hahaha there has never been a country called palestine in history, the arabs only started calling themselves palestinian in the 1920's before that the jews were called palestinian
your people conquered the land and then lost it to the turks, for 500 years you lived under ottoman rule, then 50 years under british rule
u got all of jordan which was part of the mandate of palestine, jordan never existed before this, jordanians and palestinians are the same, only call themeselves different names
I dont care if you called the country DISNEY LAND !!\!! and said it was ran by the KEEBLER COOKIE ELVES>>> it doesn change the fact that my tribe has lived there for close of 2000 yrs till today.. That land is Arab land... ISRAHELL is bullshit... LONG LIVE PALESTINE !!!
2000 years? your people conquered the land in the 700's, then lost it numerous times from that to the 1500's and 1500's to 1918 it was ruled by the turks and 1918-48 brits and the UN.
Your people are indigenous to the arab peninsula
the population of arabs palestine multiplied by 3 when the jews started coming because they brought economic opportunity,
the mandate owned almost all of the land
your people could have accepted a state numerous times and are too stupid to do so
Now if you saw what I was referring to you'd understand. Saying one sentence like balsauce666 did proves nothing, and you show one sided clips of a conflict, when there are as many points in this conflict as there are points in a circle
All the 'proof' that you give that Israel does something doesn't escape the reality that Palestinians do as well. Either way I have no side, my boyfriend is in the IDF and I love him and I believe that there should be an Israel, but I also believe there should be a Palestine.
Either way people get heated up and say and do stupid things in both sides, therefore both sides are equally stupid and make themselves look like ignorant violent assholes.
hahahaha the two state soution was the solution offered to the arabs in the 30's, 1948, 1948-67(they could have made their own sat but didnt), and 2000
the arabs rejected a state everytime
the arab peace plan is almost exactly what the israelis offered in 2000, except it demands that israel allow millions of arabs into israel, which in any effect would destroy the country and lead to a massacre of the jews
maybe your stupid or just really slow, israel has offeed the two state solution for 60 years, the arabs reject it and always have, go read about camp david, even the prince of saudi arabia said arafat should have accepted, but not only did he not accept he walked away
the arab initiative requires israel allow over 2 million arabs into israel.
while at the same time there is no peace partner is the palestinians, hamas and fatah are fighting and hamas wants all of israel, why dont u read a little
the best deal hamas has offered is a ten year truce if israel moves to the 67 lines, you really think israel is that dumb, who would accept such a deal, give us ten years to bring in weapons and train and then attack you hahaha, okay your delusional
kuchinch is irrelevant
settlers are crazy, most israelis accept this, but there are zero settlers in gaza
and again you ignore the real facts, that israel supported the two state solution for the last 60 years, the arabs have not
see your not thinking logically, why would israel want to kill civilians, for what reason? does it benefit israel in anyway? think about that
next, israel has killed less than 3000 civilians in the last ten yrs, in a war in which hamas hides behind civilians, see if you were right there would be many more civilians dead, no?
of course like any country they know civilians will get killed when they go to war, but like the civilians killed in germany in ww2, do you blame allies? no, u blame hitler
like any other country israel just wants to be left alone, it doesnt want to occupy the west bank or gaza, in fact they left gaza, they also tried to give gaza to egypt in 1981,
the point is that they at this point have no choice, if they leave the west bank will become a terror haven from which attacks will be launched at israel, just like what happened when they left gaza, think about it, they waste soo much money doing these things, you think they do it to bother people?
They did not leave Gaza. They built walls inside Gaza. They occupy Gaza fishing waters and refuse Gazans to even fish. They are still building settlements in the West Bank and kicking Arab families out of their homes.
Remember Hamas was not to blame for breaking the cease fire. You lie and deceive constantly.
1. there are no israelis left in gaza, they built a wall to keep out terrorists, and it worked, you think they spent money to build walls to bother palestinians?
2. your gaza video is meaningless, it just shows some guy in a bed, have you seen pallywood movies, they make up stories, ive seen ones where the camera man goes to the hospital and asks the guy whos wife just gave birth to say a story to the camera on how the israelis wouldnt let her through the checkpoint and she almost died
1.a The wall was built on Gaza land. The wall is guarded by soldiers. Hence Israel still occupies Gaza land.
1b. The Gazans are not allowed to fish in their own waters. They are shot at while fishing. If they have no food and cannot fish, they are forced to smuggle in food.
2. WTF are you talking about? Which video is meaningless to you? Are you off your meds again?
1. I cant find any proof of that, i tried looking but it doesnt say
2. gazans are not starving they dont need fish to live, its a business, dont overblow it, however, they are allowed to fish but they cant tread certain areas, its a safety issue, look at the cargo vessel full of weapons from iran that was discovered a month ago, you seem to think the israelis should just let guns, rockets, and weapons into gaza
3. its a video of a guy talking, he could be lying, its simple, its meaningless
America is not a racist state like Israel. American Indians are allowed to live where ever they like. They don't have separate roads - like one for Israelis and one for Arabs.and separate areas for them to live.
If you don't allow them to fish, then they will bring in food through tunnels. Can't have it both ways.
Which video of a guy are you talking about? How do you know if he's lying? You could be lying.
hahaha some estimate that 100 million native americans were killed by america (most from disease but many killed), you have no clue about anything, what country did you grow up in?
arabs in israel live better than any arabs in arab countries, they serve in the knesset, have equal rights, can sue in the supreme court, is there racism in israel, yes, but just like there racism in other countries where two races are living among eachother
indians can live anywhere they want because america murdered and took their lands, now there arent too many left, face it your an occupier, but think about this, what if the native americans started blowing up buses and clubs, and coffee shops, what if they started firing rockets into your neighborhood, would you ask your government to act? yes you would, and israeli arabs can go and come as they please, stop making stuff up
the ones in gaza and wb have different roads, but for security reasons
There are more Indians now then when Columbus came. Native Americans did fight for their land but eventually got equal rights and merged. In fact a friend of my mine who is AI got a full ride scholarship based on just that.
you may be the only person in the world who denies the massacre of the indians, its the documented fact
there arent more indians now than before, your making up stuff again
they eventually got equal rights after 400 years of murder and theft,
israeli arabs have had equal rights from day one
your friend got a full scholarship because america has acknowledged the past and is making up for it, it was their country you stole it the lease you can do is give them casinos and free educations
they are allowed to fish, are you slow, there are just certain places that they can fish, try hunting in certain places on the mexican american border, see what the border police do to you
and the gazans have food, no one has ever starved, because of food aid, not just the tunnels, they use those for weapons, and you know hamas taxes the tunnels and steals aid and sells it back to the arabs
i dont know if hes lying, but he may be, its just some guy talking, it means nothing
What areas are they allowed to fish in? Show me the document which restricts their fishing. By International Law nations are allowed to fish up to 200 miles. How much is the restriction that Israel made or is it just made up on the spot?
Gazans can not get aid. Ships which carry aid to them (with a former US Congresswoman on board) are rammed by Israeli gun boats. then the IDF apologizes and says it happened because it got dark.
international law says you cant fire rockets at civilians, why are you only looking at one side
israel does what it can to ensure arms dont get into israel, can you blame them, what is your argument, to let them have rockets and weapons from iran? it would be like you asking america to open its border to drugs, guns and violent people, if international law told america to open the border would they? hell no, intl law is not a suicide pact
So why does Israel fire rockets and phosphorus bombs at civilians? Wasn't the apartheid wall to prevent arms into Israel? That is like the US encroaching on Canadian land, not allowing them to fish in their waters and denying them aid without even looking into the boat.
gazans get more aid than other other people in the world, its a fact, no one has ever starved to death there, and they should get rammed because they have no right to be there, for all israel knows there could be weapons and terrorists on board, try sailing a boat into america from international waters see what the coast gaurd does to you dumbass, and the boat was told to stop but it never did
think about this, america took all of the southwest from mexico in a war, so you could say america stole their land, took it over, kicked them out, and is now keeping them out and building a wall on the border, its racist, you see your just a hypocrite, just admit it, you live in a country whos less legitimate than israel, has murdered many hundreds of times the amount of people killed by israel, took 500 times the land, has a racist history until the 1970's and yet you criticize israel, why?
furthermore, theres a reason why they occupy those waters, because weapons and people can be smuggled in through the sea, the fishermen have certain limits on where they could fish because smugglers can drop things into the sea to get picked up by someone else, think about it
3. I personally am against the settlements and settlers, a lot of israelis are but just like hamas, the settlers are religious nutjobs, but again israel offered to dismantle 64 of them in 2000,
and for the ones that would stay they offered land in israel in exchange for the remaining settlements to stay, arafat never counter offered he walked away
4. when you say israel broke the ceasefire your wrong, hamas never ever stopped smuggling, and they only stopped shooting rockets 4 months into the ceasefire
furthermore, what broke the ceasefire was when israel killed 6 hamas men, but what were they doing? they were digging a tunnel into israel to kidnap soldiers, how do you ignore that fact
If they were digging a tunnel on their own land, then what business is it of Israel? I thought Israel left Gaza. How can they kidnap Israel soldiers on their own land if Israel left?
hahaha they were digging the tunnel into israel, from gaza into israel, why is this difficult for you to understand?
you make it seem like the israelis should just wait and let the arabs get all the guns and rockets they want and then let them attack them all they want,
think about this for a second, stop thinking with your emotion, think with logic
There was no tunnel into Israel. If I want to build a tunnel on my own land than why does it bother Israel IF Israel truly left Gaza. But Israel didn't leave Gaza and they wanted full control over Gaza.
you have no logic, its like saying its okay for mexicans to tunnel from mexico into america, is that okay you hypocrite
and there was a tunnel they admit it, they claim they were digging it for "defensive" purposes, why they need a tunnel into israel for defenses purposes is beyond me, maybe you know
if they wanted full control of gaza why did they leave? why did they offer it to the egyptians for free in 81? you make no sense, they have no choice, like america cant leave afghanistan
Israel claimed that they were digging a tunnel into Israel but provided no proof. It is as if the US were to firebomb Tijuana even though there were no tunnels crossing the border.
again, the palestinians admitted to building the tunnel, they just claimed it was for defensive purposes, why is this so hard for you to understand?
second the difference is that mexicans arent trying to kill americans, you can bet your ass they would wipe out anyone trying to get over the border if that were the case, what should israel have done? asked them to please stop, whats wrong with you
do me a favor, go to mexico and dig a tunnel into america and see what they do to you
and again to get back to the point, israel was always favorable to the 2 state solution, the arabs want all of the land, they do not accept a jewish state in the middle east, they could have had a state 10 times, but refused to do so everytime,
everyone is in agreement the palestinians have it bad, not as bad as you make it seem (like no one has starved to death in gaza, ever) but its not israels fault, they are just trying to deal with a situation they were put into
you also fail to understand the fact that most arabs dont accept any israel, if israel got up and left to the 67 line tommorow, they would still attack, they admit this themselves
so dont just look at the situation and make judgments, look at what israels options are, whether they have any partners for peace who can actually deliver, the pa is too weak, hamas refuses to accept israels right to exist, so what can they do, they cant leave, itll turn into terrorist base, you understand?
take a look at the comment from mahsih2007 below, she says israel has no right to exist, this is the problem,
do jews and israelis know the palestinians dont have the greatest lives, yes, but they dont blame themselves they blame the palestinians who made poor choices,
yasser arafat was a billionaire when he died, he wasnt even palestinian he was egyptian
u urself live in the US, israel has a right to exist more than the US, yet the arabs still refuse to accept israel
The ISRAELI's cannot offer what does not belong to them !!! Maybe your the one who is stupid.. You still cling to the bullshit ideal that ISRAEL has a right to exist.. It doesnt.. LONG LIVE PALESTINE !!
it belongs to them, whether you accept that or not,
hahahaha your from jordan????? your country killed 20,000 palestinians during black september, hahahahahahahahah youve killed more palestinians in 11 days that israel has since 1948, i dont even think before 1948 hahahahahahahah
your country itself was part of the mandate of palestine, you were the same as a palestinian, it would be like if they split japan in two and they started calling themselves different names, jordan is palestine
key word, it was A Rabbi, not Jews or all Judaisms in accordance. You look at one Jew who's crazy and you think that represents all of us. Maybe we should do the same with Arabs and Muslims. If one blows themselves up, then by your logic, you're all dangerous people
No, I do not generalize. There are many, many Jews who are good, kind people. I was just pointing this Rabbi out as he is one of the leading Rabbis in Israel and has great influence in the IDF.
alright well I'm glad you clarified that. For some reason people point to one person and somehow say that represents everyone in Judaism, as if everyone was Orthodox or even liked Orthodox Jews, frankly they can be real assholes and have a warped sense of reality. It's true the religious theocracy part of the Israeli government has become rather annoying and ignorant of reality and dont help things
Is Passover the celebration of the ehtnic cleaning of the indigenous people of Palestine? The Jews who inhabited Palestine this century are Europeans, not exiles from Palestine. We are converts to Judaism. Palestine is the land of Palestinians - be they Jews, Christians or Muslims. It is not a European land. You were never disbursed, you converted. G-d isn't a real estate broker. You can never make amends for the people you have slaughtered in cold blood and stolen their lands. Shame!
Ethnic cleansing, really? Where? Last time i looked at the demographics, there are plenty of Arabs living in Israel. The Jews living in Israel are from all over, and not just Europe. Jews have had a steady presence in the land since the habitation of Canaan, and there were no Palestinians then. Also, in 1948, the Jews wanted to name the land Palestine, and the Arabs protested. There was a mandate called "Palestine" however, there is no country, state, or land called Palestine.
G-d is a real estate broker. That is why the Bible starts with "In the beginning, G-d created the heavens and the earth" He gives it to whom he wishes. He gave that land to the Tribes of Israel, and the rest of the whole planet belongs to everyone else. So why does it bother anyone that the the Jewish people have a sliver of land? According to Jewish law, a person that converts to Judaism is considered as if they were born Jewish, and Israel being a Jewish land, by default is their homeland.
Which ethnic cleansing are you talking about? 1916 ? March 1, 1920? April 4-7 1920 5 dead and 216 were injured (18 critically)? May 1921 47 killed and 140 wounded? August 1929 133 dead, with more than 300 wounded? April 1936 -September 1937, 415 Jews dead? January , 1947 35 dead ? February 1, 1948; 50 killed, over 100 wounded March 11, 1948; 12 dead, 44 injured ? April 13, 1948; 78 killed and their bodies mutilated. Dozens are wounded? May 13, 1948, Dozens killed (including 20 women)?
I hope this doesn't sound snarky, but in implying that Israelis are White European Colonialist, please don't completely ignore Israel's massive, non-white-Non-European, population.
Only some of the Jews who inhabit Israel/Palestine are from western European decent.
Some have been in Palestine for many generations. Many are from non-European countries such as, Iran, Iraq, Morocco, Ethiopia, Yemen, Argentina, Egypt, Chile, South Africa, Australia, Uzbekistan, Cuba.
You are correct, it is NOT EUROPEAN LAND, BUT it IS the land that ALMIGHTY G-D GAVE TO HIS NATION ISRAEL AND ISRAEL ALONE. If you have a problem with that then take it up with G-d.
Hussein O'bama let my people go!
Qwerti60 2 years ago 2
That sentence should be saying to the Arabs.
Arabs, let my people live!!!
Yuval012 2 years ago 2
im sure its not for them to decide , whether they like it or not .... we wont ever leave israel again
AM ISRAEL CHAI , Happy hanuka achi
huxhzutabhi 2 years ago 2
Chabad in particular and hasidism in general are messianic movements and are thus pagan. Real Jews are NOT connected to chabad and chabad is mainly a counterfeit type of judaism
BrooklynNotQueens 2 years ago
right, real Jews have lesbian rabbis that hate the Torah, right?
kaziabdal 2 years ago
real jews mainly aren't in new pagan messianic sects. some messianic sects are xtianity, shabtai tzvism, hasidism, na nachs and of course chabad. chabad uses torah the way the catholic church uses torah. a chabad can not be counted in a minyan. its fine if you are a pagan chabad i'm just saying its not jewish.
thus chabad is antisemitic because it seeks to lure actual jews away from being jewish.
BrooklynNotQueens 2 years ago
Is reform judaism, anti torah, jewish?
kaziabdal 2 years ago
chabad has a new revelation and is part of the hasidic pagan guru movement and is thus goyish. you wouldn'tunderstand this because you're not jewish.
the only thing that makes a jew jewish is yes being jewish. a dog can eat kosher and be shomer shabbos or the dog can eat trayf but its still a dog. cats can learn to bark and do special cat nigguns and wear funny hats but the cats are still cats.
sorry if your identity is threatened mr pagan.
BrooklynNotQueens 2 years ago
@kaziabdal
the take home lesson about Chabad and all hasidic cults is that they have ALWAYS been anti zionist (and thus many would say anti semitic).
many major chabad donors are truly shocked when they learn of this.
are you pro israel or pro chabad?
BrooklynNotQueens 1 year ago
Watch Occuopation 101on my channel and see the Real ISRAEL !!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
Zionism is to Palestinians what Nazism was to Jews.
Teutonicberserker 2 years ago
cheap shot
dsperlin 2 years ago
Watch Occupation 101 on my channel and see the Real ISRAEL !!!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
watch pallywood and see the real palestine
robsage1 2 years ago
Why doesn't Israel become an adult and rely on others for money and protection? The US has its own problems and can't afford a welfare case like Israel anymore.
saadasim 2 years ago
hahahahahaha the US gives more money to muslim countries than israel, they give 1 billion a year to aid in addition to the 700 billion we send to them for their oil, again why are you singling out israel? go read about how much we give to pakistan and egypt and then kill yourself, you keep coming up with bullshit and i keep destroying you, how long do you want to do this?
robsage1 2 years ago
Haha yourself. We give $23,240 per Israeli citizen from US citizens. The average aid that we give is $500 per person. Again why should we give $5,000,000,000 to Israel EVERY year when Americans need the money more?
We shouldn't give any money except food and medicine in aid.
saadasim 2 years ago
you give 3 billion a year, most of it is credits to buy weapons from american companies like lockheed martin, obamas budget deficit is 1.4 trillion alone, 3 billion is nothing, why do we give money to saudi arabia, who funds terror against the US, thats the real question
robsage1 2 years ago
Yes, Israel gets the money and then sells the technology to the Chinese.
I agree that we shouldn't give any money to the Saudis either.
saadasim 2 years ago
prove your claim, you just speculate on everything, you know nothing,
you thought your whole life that the arabs wanted the two state solution and israel didnt until i told you,
your letting your emotion get in the way of your thinking
robsage1 2 years ago
No speculation. Prove that I said the Arabs wanted the two state solution all the time. I never said that. I just think that the two state solution is good compromise right now - for both sides.
U.S. Arms Sales to Israel End Up In China, Iraq
commondreams(.)org/views02/0509-07(.)htm
Israel Second Only To Russia In Providing Arms To China
rense(.)com/general28/iisj(.)htm
At What Cost Israel-China Ties?
meforum(.)org/926/at-what-cost-israel-china-ties
saadasim 2 years ago
Israel reverse engineers US technology and sells it states hostile to US. The Chinese F-10 fighter is an almost identical version of Israel's Lavi. The Lavi was a joint Israeli-American design, but financed mostly with American aid.
When the Navy EP-3E surveillance plane was forced to land in China after a Chinese F-8 fighter flew into its propeller, photos show Israeli built Python 3 missiles under the fighter's wings.
saadasim 2 years ago
1. What your saying is just allegations, theres no proof just speculation. furthermore the canards are only similiar, this means nothing, but if true, whoever was responsible should be punished, but only if true
2. Israel, like any other country can sell its weapons it develops itself to whoever it wants, in fact it needs to do this to keep its weapons programs funded, furthemore any classified weapons sold to israel are under tight control, ie israel cant fix the computers on the f35's
robsage1 2 years ago
are you simple or what, i keep telling you that the palestinians could have had their own state for the last 60 years, they rejected it everytime, anyone with half a brain knows that the two state solution is the only solution, but right now its not feasible, because the palestinians are fighting with eachother, fatah is weak and hamas refuses the two state solution,
so the point is what is israel supposed to do?? thats the point they are stuck behind a rock and a hard place
robsage1 2 years ago
Man, you really are as dumb as you write,
1. I thought we were talking about Israel taking technology and selling it to the Chinese. But you seemed to want to change subject.
2. Hamas has already said that it will end armed struggle if Israel quits territories. But Israel has NEVER stopped expanding its settlements. If it stops it one place, it grows it twice as big in another,
3. So, maybe Israel should stop settlement activity and the apartheid way of doing things.
saadasim 2 years ago
1 read above dumbass
2. your a liar, hamas offered a 10 yr truce in exchange for what your saying, after which they would attack israel after training and weaponizing for 10 years,
3. Israel should stop settlement activity, i agree with you, but what you call apartheid is for safety and again, you ignore the facts that israeli arabs are treated as equals
furthermore, these "methods" have saved thousands of lives, so why would they stop?? to please you?
robsage1 2 years ago
here were going in circles, this is getting nowhere, why dont you tell me what YOU would do if you were in charge in Israel, dont bullshit me, tell me something thats feasible, not something that would lead to israels suicide, be honest
robsage1 2 years ago
Hamas would have to ammend it's charter first. and that charter specifically lays out the goal of destroying Israel
dsperlin 2 years ago
Hamas may have some words written on a piece of paper but Israel has lots of innocent blood written on the streets.
saadasim 2 years ago
And Arab money that has gone into violence has not helped. Violence begets violence. Hamas keeps recruiting people, making lies, spreading hate and violence. It does nothing to make Israel believe it. i'm not saying that the thousands of Palestinians dead in Gaza dont matter but I'm saying let's look at why, and unfortunately Hamas does not help the situation to be any easier.
dsperlin 2 years ago
We get something valuable in return from Saudi Arabi - Oil. We get nothing useful from israel.
Teutonicberserker 2 years ago
you get oil from saudi arabia, but you pay them for it stupid, they dont give it to you for free, over 700 billion a yr, why do we have to give them a billion more a year i aid, when they use that money against us, most of the 9/11 hijackers were form saudi arabia, suadi arabia spend millions a year on propaganda against americans, but your too stupid worrying about giving money to israel who is an ally to worry about that, dumbass
robsage1 2 years ago
At least Saudi Arabia didn't attack the USS Liberty in a failed attempt to drag us into a war on their behalf.
Google - USS Liberty survivors
Google - Lavon Affair
Teutonicberserker 2 years ago
ps israel uses that money to buy american weapon which in turn helps the american economy
robsage1 2 years ago
yes and burn the children in gaza it is good for american jobs. how many children would u sacrifice for your job in the weapons factory?
kaziabdal 2 years ago
zero, but the children that are killed their blood is on the hands of hamas who uses human shields and fires from populated areas, the fact is israel was protecting itself from 8 yrs of everyday rocket fire which killed 32 ppl and injured over 600, cause millions in damage and destroyed the economy in the south
and its funny how you people ignore the fact that they actually stopped firing rockets into israel after the war, its the only thing terrorists understand
robsage1 2 years ago
good point. Like Dresden and Nagasaki, we really showed the fascists by burning all those children alive. Keep the people in Gaza as hostages we can kill if the British intelligence EU funded Hamas fires bottle rockets at Israelis. Kill them all, let God sort it out......
a summary of yr argument? Very Paulianity, historically anyway.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
1. nagasaki saved millions of lives, do you have any idea how many people would have died if the US invaded japan you moron, you have zero logic, what would you have israel do, just sit there and take rocket fire everyday?
2. if they were bottle rockets why did they kill 32 and hurt 600? why would israel spend hundreds of millions of iron dome? for fun?
3. if israel had this killem all attitude there would be more than 3k civilians killed in 10 years of fighting
robsage1 2 years ago
its also funny to me how someone who lives in the US can criticize israel, you live on occupied land, how many indians had to die for you to live in america? how much land was stolen from mexico you stupid fuck
your a hypocrite, i hope and indian blows up the next cafe you go to, and then i hope the cops dont do anything about it,
in the end of the day the palestinians are only hostage to themselves and their poor leadership, like arafat who died a billionaire and rejected camp david
robsage1 2 years ago
Youre kidding right. Immigrant Americans r somehow responsible for what the good Christian Euro trash did to the Indians and Africans.? and arafat my friend got his billions from where, who was paying him, and therefore who was he an agent of? Think before u sputter off your infantile christian pagan inanities..
kaziabdal 2 years ago
you live in a stolen country go back to where you came from and give the indians their land back
Also in 2003, a team of American accountantshired by Arafat's own finance ministrybegan examining Arafat's finances. The team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the US and the Cayman Islands.
robsage1 2 years ago
The head of the investigation stated that "although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And none of these dealings were made public."[93]
so who was paying him moron? no one he was stealing money from the palestinians, like today hamas steals aid and sells it to the population, they even tax the tunnels, gimme fact next time, not just you bs opinions or delusions
robsage1 2 years ago
so the eu-us gives money to the palestine authority and he grafts a billion. meaning what, he stole from the people, or he took a big bribe from the people putting up the money, just like oil for food with kofi annan. same story. graft, bribes, corruption, thats the way of the middle east, and the usa. big deal. every dictator in the world not threatened by the nato forces is on the take.
grow up you child.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
hahahah the guy stole a billion dollars from his people and he is their hero, while they claimed the pals were starving are you kidding, his whore french wife gets money from the pa still and tried to get millions to maintain her lavish lifestyle, but they didnt give it to her
all this while he was encouraging these brainwashed pals to go blow themselves up, how is this irrelevant to you?
also he stole it from the taxes, not just from the aid,
hamas steals aid and sells it to the pals today
robsage1 2 years ago
exactly right , whores for the cia and british mi6. what else is new. like I said, so what. Just like Obama is selling America down the drain for Soros who funded him lock stock and barrel. Goodbye American superpower. welcome to the third world. welcome to the desert of the real.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
what does the palestinian leadership stealing from their people and then telling them to go blow themselves up have to do with anything you said?
today hamas taxes the tunnels and steals aid and sells it to the people.
the pals could have had a state in the 30's, 48, 48-67, 2000, they rejected it everytime, the have greedy and poor leadership, today they are killing eachother
poor leadership right from the beginning, watch this
watch?v=cn4r7ZjG9Nc
robsage1 2 years ago
its well established that the radical Islamic groups in Palestine were initially funded by Israeli and western intel agencies, first as anti-Soviet force, then as classic colonial divide and conquer. Hamas/plo of course both receive substantial funding officially from eu. very little gets to the people of course. its designed to control their leadership , evetually Israel will become a multicultural, pluralistic state as did Soth Africa.
simple demographics will prevail.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
if israel becomes that then let it be, just as whites in america will become the minority, but again the point is the pals could have had their state anytime in the last 61 yrs, they rejected it everytime
they have poor leadership and all of them are corrupt, this is why they are in the position they are today
robsage1 2 years ago
they choose the least of the colloborators with the occupation. Choosing an apartheid separation warsaw ghetto stte they rejected ,,,which may have been a mistake as Israel cannot function without their cheap labor. Tho now they r importing asians and africans to replace the palis.eventually a multistate confederation might emerge with rights for self dertimination for Jews and non-Jews alike----if the West permits it. They prefer the status quo (war profits)
kaziabdal 2 years ago
arafat was offered all of gaza, 94% of west bank, what the hell are you talking about warsaw ghetto
from 48-67 there was no occupation why did they not create a state then?
and self determination? the israeli arabs have more freedoms than arabs in their own countries, they can vote, they serve in the knesset and have freedom of speech beyond their "brothers" in their own countries,
u see things that are not there
& no 1 has starved to death in gaza, dont compare it to a concentration camp
robsage1 2 years ago
youre right, gaza is not like the warsaw ghetto. The nazis did not fire bomb family compounds into rubble killing innocents without regard in search of partisans, at least not as a partof official terror policy. that came later during ethnic cleansing/holocaust operations; which we will see no doubt in short time from the "Jewish" state.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
hahaha your too funny, less than 3k civilians killed in the last 10 years, in a war in which hamas uses civilians as human shields, jordan killed 20k palestinians in 11 days during black september, arabs and muslims killed 500k civilians in darfur in 5 years.
you are delusional
how many indians had to dies so you can live in the US? Why dont you go back to where you came from your an occupier?
robsage1 2 years ago
darfur rebels r anti-Muslim funded by bp shell euro oil companies with cover from us intelligence. wake up and smell the coffee.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
hahaha okay, thats why when the icc put out a warrant for the bashar al-assad, iran and hamas came out in support of him, your delusional
robsage1 2 years ago
research the sudan opposition , who funds it, and if it is islamic, or instead allied with anti islamic forces who want a piece of the oil. darfur is all about oil, and chinas strategic preminence in africa. thats all. stop watching fox news for your brains sake.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
No kazi, Darfur is about Arabs ethnically cleansing blacks from their homeland.
MojaveViper29 2 years ago
ROTFLMFAO!
If I give you money to buy something from me, I am still giving you something for nothing. It's a net loss for the US any way you slice it.
Teutonicberserker 2 years ago
i would like to donate but i'm in Argentina.
LONG LIVE ISRAEL!
pablytuzz 2 years ago
watch occupation 101 on my channel and see your ISRAEL ...... Viva la palestine !!!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
watch pallywood on youtube to see your bullshit
robsage1 2 years ago
ggstorms; Your a Neo-Nazi piece of shit!!!
pat52007 2 years ago
Free Gilad Schalit
Makaio88 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Watch Occupation 101 on my channel and see THE REAL ISRAEL !!!
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Yeah right should be retitled
MORE LIES FROM HAMAS
AND ISLAMIC MUSLIMS
ALL SUCKERS PLEASE COME
pinksalute 2 years ago
Watch Occupation 101 on my channel and see THE REAL ISRAEL !!!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
im mexican isreal will live no matter what and to saadasim isreals never will shoot or bomb are brothers and sisters
mexiacn100boy 2 years ago
I can't understand what you wrote.
saadasim 2 years ago
Jews belong to Egypt.
jimjaas 2 years ago
We belong to nobody. If you read history, you'd know that. Whether as slaves or migrant workers, we left Egypt for something better
dsperlin 2 years ago
"We belong to nobody" you sure sound like a zionist.
black0jackass 2 years ago
arabs belong to the arab peninsula, you know where they were nomad barbarians while the jews were building the first temple
robsage1 2 years ago
Watch Occupation 101 on my channel and see the Real ISrael !!!!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
and is any world of people all the same? by your views of israel, then I should do the same. If one arab or muslim blows themselves up, that must mean you're all violent people, all muslims are evil right? I dont think so.
There's good and bad in all sorts, and its important to remember that. Not all Israelis live in the West Bank, not all Israelis want war, most Israelis just want peace and security and are just as sick of the conflict as the surrounding people are.
dsperlin 2 years ago
Most Israelis will get there peace and security when they give back what they stole from us .... PALESTINE ALL OF IT IS ARAB COUNTRY... and only the jews who were there for many genarations living in peace with arabs are welcome ... All other eurojews who don not belong and are thieves need to get the hell out... VIVA PALESTINE !!!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
hahaha there has never been a country called palestine in history, the arabs only started calling themselves palestinian in the 1920's before that the jews were called palestinian
your people conquered the land and then lost it to the turks, for 500 years you lived under ottoman rule, then 50 years under british rule
u got all of jordan which was part of the mandate of palestine, jordan never existed before this, jordanians and palestinians are the same, only call themeselves different names
robsage1 2 years ago
I dont care if you called the country DISNEY LAND !!\!! and said it was ran by the KEEBLER COOKIE ELVES>>> it doesn change the fact that my tribe has lived there for close of 2000 yrs till today.. That land is Arab land... ISRAHELL is bullshit... LONG LIVE PALESTINE !!!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
2000 years? your people conquered the land in the 700's, then lost it numerous times from that to the 1500's and 1500's to 1918 it was ruled by the turks and 1918-48 brits and the UN.
Your people are indigenous to the arab peninsula
the population of arabs palestine multiplied by 3 when the jews started coming because they brought economic opportunity,
the mandate owned almost all of the land
your people could have accepted a state numerous times and are too stupid to do so
robsage1 2 years ago
israel = terrorist dogshit
ballsauce666 2 years ago
Could you try for a real argument. Without any backup your claim is pathetic
dsperlin 2 years ago
without any backup? which universe are you from?
No, you shoot or bomb women and children.
UN Enquiry to Israeli War Crimes in Gaza - 257 Palestinians Children Killed so far
watch?v=dGB4TTw3kHQ
Shelled family recounts Gaza horror
watch?v=59zbDWaixjQ
Norman Finkelstein on the atrocities Israel commited in Gaza
watch?v=bAhoLRfBNOQ
Israeli soldiers shoot children while eating chocolate and chips
watch?v=AfT4QrqOnYM
black0jackass 2 years ago 2
Now if you saw what I was referring to you'd understand. Saying one sentence like balsauce666 did proves nothing, and you show one sided clips of a conflict, when there are as many points in this conflict as there are points in a circle
dsperlin 2 years ago
Israel shows that might is right and damned be justice.
saadasim 2 years ago
At least we dont stone women
dsperlin 2 years ago
No, you shoot or bomb women and children.
UN Enquiry to Israeli War Crimes in Gaza - 257 Palestinians Children Killed so far
watch?v=dGB4TTw3kHQ
Shelled family recounts Gaza horror
watch?v=59zbDWaixjQ
Norman Finkelstein on the atrocities Israel commited in Gaza
watch?v=bAhoLRfBNOQ
Israeli soldiers shoot children while eating chocolate and chips
watch?v=AfT4QrqOnYM
saadasim 2 years ago
Like Hamas and the Palestinian Liberation 'army' doesn't? They shoot specifically for women and children, at least the IDF doesn't do it on purpose.
GuateVEGAN 2 years ago 3
Rabbi advocates carpet bombing Gaza
jpostXcom/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527966693&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Top Israeli Rabbi Advocates Mass Murder of Gazans
jpostXcom/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527966693&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Israel admits using white phosphorous in Gaza
watch?v=MKgph9PV3SA
U.N. official: 30 dead after Israeli strike near school
watch?v=ORbqegZrRK0
saadasim 2 years ago
All the 'proof' that you give that Israel does something doesn't escape the reality that Palestinians do as well. Either way I have no side, my boyfriend is in the IDF and I love him and I believe that there should be an Israel, but I also believe there should be a Palestine.
Either way people get heated up and say and do stupid things in both sides, therefore both sides are equally stupid and make themselves look like ignorant violent assholes.
GuateVEGAN 2 years ago 3
I am glad that you love your BF who is in the IDF and wish him peace and that he can give peace as well.
But why doesn't Israel support the two state solution which was first proposed by the Saudis? Please question your government.
Arab peace plan of 2002
ikipediaXorg/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative
Israel breaks cease fire July 2, 2008
haaretzXcom/hasen/spages/997665Xhtml
Norman Finkelstein: Israel broke cease fire
normanfinkelsteinXcom/articleXphp?pg=11&ar=2411
saadasim 2 years ago
hahahaha the two state soution was the solution offered to the arabs in the 30's, 1948, 1948-67(they could have made their own sat but didnt), and 2000
the arabs rejected a state everytime
the arab peace plan is almost exactly what the israelis offered in 2000, except it demands that israel allow millions of arabs into israel, which in any effect would destroy the country and lead to a massacre of the jews
why dont you read a book before you come talk?
robsage1 2 years ago
If Israel doesn't like the two state solution then it should come out and offer an alternative.
But Israel may cease to exist anyway:
jewishpressXcom/pagerouteXdo/39058
saadasim 2 years ago
maybe your stupid or just really slow, israel has offeed the two state solution for 60 years, the arabs reject it and always have, go read about camp david, even the prince of saudi arabia said arafat should have accepted, but not only did he not accept he walked away
the arab initiative requires israel allow over 2 million arabs into israel.
while at the same time there is no peace partner is the palestinians, hamas and fatah are fighting and hamas wants all of israel, why dont u read a little
robsage1 2 years ago
Hamas will end armed struggle if Israel quits territories
forbesXcom/feeds/afx/2006/02/12/afx2519867Xhtml
Kucinich Documents Israel's War Crimes On The Record!
watch?v=2X35OAb2wGo
Violent Israeli Settlers Terrorize Palestinians
watch?v=eAGRjyhpd2k
Israel Destroys UN Headquarters in Gaza
watch?v=ch1G8doybSc
Maybe you should try reading for once.
saadasim 2 years ago
the best deal hamas has offered is a ten year truce if israel moves to the 67 lines, you really think israel is that dumb, who would accept such a deal, give us ten years to bring in weapons and train and then attack you hahaha, okay your delusional
kuchinch is irrelevant
settlers are crazy, most israelis accept this, but there are zero settlers in gaza
and again you ignore the real facts, that israel supported the two state solution for the last 60 years, the arabs have not
robsage1 2 years ago
Ok, so no two state solution. Now what does Israel want? Just to keep killing more civilians?
saadasim 2 years ago
see your not thinking logically, why would israel want to kill civilians, for what reason? does it benefit israel in anyway? think about that
next, israel has killed less than 3000 civilians in the last ten yrs, in a war in which hamas hides behind civilians, see if you were right there would be many more civilians dead, no?
of course like any country they know civilians will get killed when they go to war, but like the civilians killed in germany in ww2, do you blame allies? no, u blame hitler
robsage1 2 years ago
like any other country israel just wants to be left alone, it doesnt want to occupy the west bank or gaza, in fact they left gaza, they also tried to give gaza to egypt in 1981,
the point is that they at this point have no choice, if they leave the west bank will become a terror haven from which attacks will be launched at israel, just like what happened when they left gaza, think about it, they waste soo much money doing these things, you think they do it to bother people?
robsage1 2 years ago
They did not leave Gaza. They built walls inside Gaza. They occupy Gaza fishing waters and refuse Gazans to even fish. They are still building settlements in the West Bank and kicking Arab families out of their homes.
Remember Hamas was not to blame for breaking the cease fire. You lie and deceive constantly.
Gazan fisherman shot
watch?v=koWUY84c02M
Family eviction in WB
watch?v=M9N6k_ykVX0
Holocaust survivor abused
watch?v=nC37pFQ8tyg
Shooting Tristan Anderson
watch?v=Ov3Qs8CjPRw
saadasim 2 years ago
1. there are no israelis left in gaza, they built a wall to keep out terrorists, and it worked, you think they spent money to build walls to bother palestinians?
2. your gaza video is meaningless, it just shows some guy in a bed, have you seen pallywood movies, they make up stories, ive seen ones where the camera man goes to the hospital and asks the guy whos wife just gave birth to say a story to the camera on how the israelis wouldnt let her through the checkpoint and she almost died
robsage1 2 years ago
1.a The wall was built on Gaza land. The wall is guarded by soldiers. Hence Israel still occupies Gaza land.
1b. The Gazans are not allowed to fish in their own waters. They are shot at while fishing. If they have no food and cannot fish, they are forced to smuggle in food.
2. WTF are you talking about? Which video is meaningless to you? Are you off your meds again?
saadasim 2 years ago
1. I cant find any proof of that, i tried looking but it doesnt say
2. gazans are not starving they dont need fish to live, its a business, dont overblow it, however, they are allowed to fish but they cant tread certain areas, its a safety issue, look at the cargo vessel full of weapons from iran that was discovered a month ago, you seem to think the israelis should just let guns, rockets, and weapons into gaza
3. its a video of a guy talking, he could be lying, its simple, its meaningless
robsage1 2 years ago
and again your a hypocrite, you live in america, your an occupier of native american lands, how many indians had to die so you live in america?
here just watch this video, just a glimpse at some of the lies youve been told, pallywood has been around for 60 years now
watch?v=cn4r7ZjG9Nc
watch?v=uL8ANySuSuk
robsage1 2 years ago
America is not a racist state like Israel. American Indians are allowed to live where ever they like. They don't have separate roads - like one for Israelis and one for Arabs.and separate areas for them to live.
If you don't allow them to fish, then they will bring in food through tunnels. Can't have it both ways.
Which video of a guy are you talking about? How do you know if he's lying? You could be lying.
saadasim 2 years ago
hahaha some estimate that 100 million native americans were killed by america (most from disease but many killed), you have no clue about anything, what country did you grow up in?
arabs in israel live better than any arabs in arab countries, they serve in the knesset, have equal rights, can sue in the supreme court, is there racism in israel, yes, but just like there racism in other countries where two races are living among eachother
robsage1 2 years ago
indians can live anywhere they want because america murdered and took their lands, now there arent too many left, face it your an occupier, but think about this, what if the native americans started blowing up buses and clubs, and coffee shops, what if they started firing rockets into your neighborhood, would you ask your government to act? yes you would, and israeli arabs can go and come as they please, stop making stuff up
the ones in gaza and wb have different roads, but for security reasons
robsage1 2 years ago
There are more Indians now then when Columbus came. Native Americans did fight for their land but eventually got equal rights and merged. In fact a friend of my mine who is AI got a full ride scholarship based on just that.
saadasim 2 years ago
you may be the only person in the world who denies the massacre of the indians, its the documented fact
there arent more indians now than before, your making up stuff again
they eventually got equal rights after 400 years of murder and theft,
israeli arabs have had equal rights from day one
your friend got a full scholarship because america has acknowledged the past and is making up for it, it was their country you stole it the lease you can do is give them casinos and free educations
robsage1 2 years ago
they are allowed to fish, are you slow, there are just certain places that they can fish, try hunting in certain places on the mexican american border, see what the border police do to you
and the gazans have food, no one has ever starved, because of food aid, not just the tunnels, they use those for weapons, and you know hamas taxes the tunnels and steals aid and sells it back to the arabs
i dont know if hes lying, but he may be, its just some guy talking, it means nothing
robsage1 2 years ago
What areas are they allowed to fish in? Show me the document which restricts their fishing. By International Law nations are allowed to fish up to 200 miles. How much is the restriction that Israel made or is it just made up on the spot?
Gazans can not get aid. Ships which carry aid to them (with a former US Congresswoman on board) are rammed by Israeli gun boats. then the IDF apologizes and says it happened because it got dark.
saadasim 2 years ago
international law says you cant fire rockets at civilians, why are you only looking at one side
israel does what it can to ensure arms dont get into israel, can you blame them, what is your argument, to let them have rockets and weapons from iran? it would be like you asking america to open its border to drugs, guns and violent people, if international law told america to open the border would they? hell no, intl law is not a suicide pact
robsage1 2 years ago
So why does Israel fire rockets and phosphorus bombs at civilians? Wasn't the apartheid wall to prevent arms into Israel? That is like the US encroaching on Canadian land, not allowing them to fish in their waters and denying them aid without even looking into the boat.
saadasim 2 years ago
it doesnt, it fires missiles at hamas, and civilians get killed in collateral damage, it happens, hamas does this on purpose.
every army in the world uses white phosphorous
why does hamas fire rockets at israeli civilians?
the wall saved many lives because they cant suicide bomb anymore, but israel is building iron dome which will stop rockets
canada isnt trying to destroy israel, think of it like this, does the US allow weapons and rockets into afghanistan and iraq? no they dont
robsage1 2 years ago
gazans get more aid than other other people in the world, its a fact, no one has ever starved to death there, and they should get rammed because they have no right to be there, for all israel knows there could be weapons and terrorists on board, try sailing a boat into america from international waters see what the coast gaurd does to you dumbass, and the boat was told to stop but it never did
robsage1 2 years ago
think about this, america took all of the southwest from mexico in a war, so you could say america stole their land, took it over, kicked them out, and is now keeping them out and building a wall on the border, its racist, you see your just a hypocrite, just admit it, you live in a country whos less legitimate than israel, has murdered many hundreds of times the amount of people killed by israel, took 500 times the land, has a racist history until the 1970's and yet you criticize israel, why?
robsage1 2 years ago
furthermore, theres a reason why they occupy those waters, because weapons and people can be smuggled in through the sea, the fishermen have certain limits on where they could fish because smugglers can drop things into the sea to get picked up by someone else, think about it
3. I personally am against the settlements and settlers, a lot of israelis are but just like hamas, the settlers are religious nutjobs, but again israel offered to dismantle 64 of them in 2000,
robsage1 2 years ago
and for the ones that would stay they offered land in israel in exchange for the remaining settlements to stay, arafat never counter offered he walked away
4. when you say israel broke the ceasefire your wrong, hamas never ever stopped smuggling, and they only stopped shooting rockets 4 months into the ceasefire
furthermore, what broke the ceasefire was when israel killed 6 hamas men, but what were they doing? they were digging a tunnel into israel to kidnap soldiers, how do you ignore that fact
robsage1 2 years ago
If they were digging a tunnel on their own land, then what business is it of Israel? I thought Israel left Gaza. How can they kidnap Israel soldiers on their own land if Israel left?
saadasim 2 years ago
hahaha they were digging the tunnel into israel, from gaza into israel, why is this difficult for you to understand?
you make it seem like the israelis should just wait and let the arabs get all the guns and rockets they want and then let them attack them all they want,
think about this for a second, stop thinking with your emotion, think with logic
robsage1 2 years ago
There was no tunnel into Israel. If I want to build a tunnel on my own land than why does it bother Israel IF Israel truly left Gaza. But Israel didn't leave Gaza and they wanted full control over Gaza.
saadasim 2 years ago
you have no logic, its like saying its okay for mexicans to tunnel from mexico into america, is that okay you hypocrite
and there was a tunnel they admit it, they claim they were digging it for "defensive" purposes, why they need a tunnel into israel for defenses purposes is beyond me, maybe you know
if they wanted full control of gaza why did they leave? why did they offer it to the egyptians for free in 81? you make no sense, they have no choice, like america cant leave afghanistan
robsage1 2 years ago
Israel claimed that they were digging a tunnel into Israel but provided no proof. It is as if the US were to firebomb Tijuana even though there were no tunnels crossing the border.
saadasim 2 years ago
again, the palestinians admitted to building the tunnel, they just claimed it was for defensive purposes, why is this so hard for you to understand?
second the difference is that mexicans arent trying to kill americans, you can bet your ass they would wipe out anyone trying to get over the border if that were the case, what should israel have done? asked them to please stop, whats wrong with you
do me a favor, go to mexico and dig a tunnel into america and see what they do to you
robsage1 2 years ago
and again to get back to the point, israel was always favorable to the 2 state solution, the arabs want all of the land, they do not accept a jewish state in the middle east, they could have had a state 10 times, but refused to do so everytime,
everyone is in agreement the palestinians have it bad, not as bad as you make it seem (like no one has starved to death in gaza, ever) but its not israels fault, they are just trying to deal with a situation they were put into
robsage1 2 years ago
you also fail to understand the fact that most arabs dont accept any israel, if israel got up and left to the 67 line tommorow, they would still attack, they admit this themselves
so dont just look at the situation and make judgments, look at what israels options are, whether they have any partners for peace who can actually deliver, the pa is too weak, hamas refuses to accept israels right to exist, so what can they do, they cant leave, itll turn into terrorist base, you understand?
robsage1 2 years ago
take a look at the comment from mahsih2007 below, she says israel has no right to exist, this is the problem,
do jews and israelis know the palestinians dont have the greatest lives, yes, but they dont blame themselves they blame the palestinians who made poor choices,
yasser arafat was a billionaire when he died, he wasnt even palestinian he was egyptian
u urself live in the US, israel has a right to exist more than the US, yet the arabs still refuse to accept israel
robsage1 2 years ago
The ISRAELI's cannot offer what does not belong to them !!! Maybe your the one who is stupid.. You still cling to the bullshit ideal that ISRAEL has a right to exist.. It doesnt.. LONG LIVE PALESTINE !!
mahsih2007 2 years ago
it belongs to them, whether you accept that or not,
hahahaha your from jordan????? your country killed 20,000 palestinians during black september, hahahahahahahahah youve killed more palestinians in 11 days that israel has since 1948, i dont even think before 1948 hahahahahahahah
your country itself was part of the mandate of palestine, you were the same as a palestinian, it would be like if they split japan in two and they started calling themselves different names, jordan is palestine
robsage1 2 years ago
key word, it was A Rabbi, not Jews or all Judaisms in accordance. You look at one Jew who's crazy and you think that represents all of us. Maybe we should do the same with Arabs and Muslims. If one blows themselves up, then by your logic, you're all dangerous people
dsperlin 2 years ago
No, I do not generalize. There are many, many Jews who are good, kind people. I was just pointing this Rabbi out as he is one of the leading Rabbis in Israel and has great influence in the IDF.
saadasim 2 years ago
alright well I'm glad you clarified that. For some reason people point to one person and somehow say that represents everyone in Judaism, as if everyone was Orthodox or even liked Orthodox Jews, frankly they can be real assholes and have a warped sense of reality. It's true the religious theocracy part of the Israeli government has become rather annoying and ignorant of reality and dont help things
dsperlin 2 years ago
And Arabs have commited their own atrocities throughout the decades and even before there ever was a modern Israeli state
dsperlin 2 years ago
Yes, I agree. An atrocity is an atrocity, no matter who does it.
saadasim 2 years ago
Wow, great movie!
rachel19977 2 years ago 3
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Is Passover the celebration of the ehtnic cleaning of the indigenous people of Palestine? The Jews who inhabited Palestine this century are Europeans, not exiles from Palestine. We are converts to Judaism. Palestine is the land of Palestinians - be they Jews, Christians or Muslims. It is not a European land. You were never disbursed, you converted. G-d isn't a real estate broker. You can never make amends for the people you have slaughtered in cold blood and stolen their lands. Shame!
Woodlandwanderer 2 years ago
Ethnic cleansing, really? Where? Last time i looked at the demographics, there are plenty of Arabs living in Israel. The Jews living in Israel are from all over, and not just Europe. Jews have had a steady presence in the land since the habitation of Canaan, and there were no Palestinians then. Also, in 1948, the Jews wanted to name the land Palestine, and the Arabs protested. There was a mandate called "Palestine" however, there is no country, state, or land called Palestine.
diver143 2 years ago 4
G-d is a real estate broker. That is why the Bible starts with "In the beginning, G-d created the heavens and the earth" He gives it to whom he wishes. He gave that land to the Tribes of Israel, and the rest of the whole planet belongs to everyone else. So why does it bother anyone that the the Jewish people have a sliver of land? According to Jewish law, a person that converts to Judaism is considered as if they were born Jewish, and Israel being a Jewish land, by default is their homeland.
diver143 2 years ago
diver143 2 years ago
The four months after the U.N resolution where more than 850 were killed?
1956 War by Arabs on Israel?
1967 Arab war on Israel? The October 1973 war on Israel by Arabs?
When you talk about the ethnic cleansing, please be more specific.
diver143 2 years ago
God has never written a book, let alone the superstitious nonsense that is the Old Testament
Teutonicberserker 2 years ago
I hope this doesn't sound snarky, but in implying that Israelis are White European Colonialist, please don't completely ignore Israel's massive, non-white-Non-European, population.
Only some of the Jews who inhabit Israel/Palestine are from western European decent.
Some have been in Palestine for many generations. Many are from non-European countries such as, Iran, Iraq, Morocco, Ethiopia, Yemen, Argentina, Egypt, Chile, South Africa, Australia, Uzbekistan, Cuba.
No shame to be complex.
allisvain 2 years ago 2
you only did half your homework. You should go deeper and find more. There are people here trying to help you learn what you are missing
DRBRUCE98501 2 years ago
You are correct, it is NOT EUROPEAN LAND, BUT it IS the land that ALMIGHTY G-D GAVE TO HIS NATION ISRAEL AND ISRAEL ALONE. If you have a problem with that then take it up with G-d.
extazy17 2 years ago 4
Archeologists now conclude their was no exodus or exile. at least not with Jews in Palestine.
kaziabdal 2 years ago
Interesting, since the Egyptian records themselves mention it. The Egyptian records even mention the plagues leading up to the exodus.
diver143 2 years ago 6
Just because there isn't apparent proof does not mean anything didn't happen
dsperlin 2 years ago
Very powerful.
Zampan0 2 years ago 2