Weapon Demonstration: Manmelter

[yohiunknown]

Manmelter

+50% projectile speed

does not require ammo

projectile cannot be deflected

altfire- extinguish tea- WAIT A MINUTE 1:59 projectile deflected

WHAT?

[Strikedead444]

what makes this weapon not overpowered?

[vivhero]

@Strikedead444 Shotgun does more damage at close range, Flare Gun is easier to Crit with since it always crits burning enemies, Flare gun is better at close range, flare gun is better with Degreaser than Melter. Man Melter is of little use if the other team lacks a Pyro, Detonater can rocket Jump, Flare Gun is easier to crit with since you can light a guy on fire, switch quickly with degreaser, and pop a flare in his face for an easy 90 damage plus fire and afterburn.

[TheSatanod]

@NuggetSandwich 2Nd.kill is from projectile.3Ft ir from fire. :D

[gentherius]

projectile cannot be deflected you say : /

[TMNWG]

Umm, it says projectiles cannot be deflected in its description but they're clearly being deflected in the video.

[paintblock]

On the official wiki article it says the particle can't be deflected. What's going on at 2:00?

[Shadowsamaman]

"Projectile cannot be deflected"

Did it not get deflected at the end of the video? The pyro shot and the enemy pyro reflected it.

[TARINunit9]

@Shadowsamaman

Very bad bug that Valve is too lazy to even test for, much less fix

[izvarzone]

Strictly better than Flaregun.

[vivhero]

@izvarzone Flaregun does more damage overall.

[toonpimpable]

it still does the flaregun kill

[NuggetSandwich]

0:44 in top right it says he got a kill with a flaregun. Then the next kill he gets counts as manmelter kill. weird

[PvtRedemption]

@NuggetSandwich Re-upload!

jk, but that is weird .-.

[LeSeulMaruhai]

@NuggetSandwich It's because the Soldier kill is caused by the flare itself, while the Medic kill is caused by the Afterburn.

It's a glitch with the weapon.

[TheMangecu]

@NuggetSandwich That's because, due to a bug, only afterburn kills use the right Manmelter kill icon.

[96Lacoste]

@NuggetSandwich I think it's that if you kill an opponent with the direct shot of the gun, it says you killed with flaregun, if you kill the enemy with the fire, it says you used manmelter.

[paintblock]

@NuggetSandwich If you kill someone with the 30 damage of the flare, (or 90 of the crit) it counts as a flaregun kill. The afterburn triggers the manmelter icon.

[MrmarioRBLX]

@NuggetSandwich

it becomes a manmelter kill if the victim gets the final bit of damage from the burning

if that finel bit of damage is from a shot, itll be a flaregun kill

[MrJediCow]

@NuggetSandwich THAT MANMELTER IS A SPAH

[TheRoflmaionaise]

@NuggetSandwich probably because he killed the soldier with a single hit (does 30 dmg and he dies) while the medic died from the burning (3 dmg every second or something)

[master3243]

@NuggetSandwich i know why its cause if he dies from burning it show the manmelter kill icon but if he dies from the 30 base damage it show the flare gun kill icon

i hope you got it

[tristenc159]

@NuggetSandwich it was a glitch when it was recent to come out, but in a patch in late december, they fixed it.

[knowsnofear]

@NuggetSandwich Thats Valve for you :)

[stijnator]

@NuggetSandwich The Manmelter kill icon shows up when you kill them with the afterburn, I guess.

[SweetChildOMineGnR1]

@NuggetSandwich i think when u kill someone with the flare it stand flaregun but when it is the afterburn it is the manmelter

[TheThumbsUpper]

@NuggetSandwich When you kill someone with the projectile, the flare gun kill icon will appear. When you kill someone with the afterburn from the projectile, the "real" manmelter kill icon will appear.

[brokenboy27]

@NuggetSandwich nope the manmelter has two kill icons..look it up in the wiki :)

[NuggetSandwich]

@brokenboy27 Do you realize that you are at least the 20th person to reply to me saying the same thing?

[aklemer15]

Manmelter or detonator?

[JubbeArt]

@aklemer15 flaregun :)

[MondoMiniman]

WHAT!?!? you can get crits just for extinguishing your teammates. THATS COMPLETELY OP, pyros shouldn't get crits for doing their basic job. Thats like giving the spy a crit to save just for backstabbing someone. Or the medic shooting crits just because he has full uber saved.

[vivhero]

@MondoMiniman Joking I assume. If not, realize it is easier to crit with the Normal Flare Gun as you do not need to have a Pyro on the other team to store crits

[nmarrero357]

@MondoMiniman there is a revolver for the spy that gives a crit for destroying a building with a sapper, you know...

[MondoMiniman]

@nmarrero357 I forgot about that, i guess that could be considered OP but seeing most spies today that get discovered before they get to where they need to go........still i see your point.

[crazjtk]

@MondoMiniman or storing crits for a scout running around or crits for killing things with your sentry- oh, wait...

[MondoMiniman]

@crazjtk Not all weapons are perfect.

[diegopabst]

what the fuck is up with the classes section? looks like it got hacked!

[WindyPower]

@diegopabst You're probably on the wrong wiki. Make sure you use the official wiki.

[Mixaraah]

Cool animation when absorbing those flames

[laserboy789]

what i find this intresting is a server ban this weapon so it was glitch in my screen and cant use this weapon in the server : (

[pokemongod159]

i love how the speed increase was only noticeable at ranges the flare gun is usually never used for...

[Schmilays]

can someone tell me the name of the map pls :S

[loopaaman]

@Schmilays

This isn't a map dumbass, this is for testing only

[Link504]

COOL

[SuperSmashFan24681]

3D

[solisvictor1991]

"Due to the short range of the flamethrower, the Pyro relies heavily on ambush tactics to catch opponents off-guard."

Now can battle snipers cross map and sent him back to his supply closet in a single shot or instantly kill most classes with a 2nd.

...

Oh valve you profiteering whore you,appealing to the masses.

[oiramldx]

@solisvictor1991 Pyro has been doing that since 2008 and now you notice?

[chubbynator100]

@solisvictor1991 do u even know how easy it is to dodge these things?

[solisvictor1991]

@chubbynator100 oh that must mean that it never hits then.

[solisvictor1991]

@solisvictor1991 I just agreed with you,they never hit people.

[aszudauzmones]

@solisvictor1991 Actually, flare gun and manmelter are my most accurate guns. I don't know why, since my aiming sucks, but I hit more times when I don't!

[ItsTommysWorld]

they should change the kill icon so that you always get the one of the manmelter , not thte flare gun one

[takeshispacepirate]

how do you get the damage letters to be yellow?

[kennethpowerlol]

@takeshispacepirate go to ur options and check the advanaced options i think and it will show u

[takeshispacepirate]

@kennethpowerlol when i go to my advanced options it just gives me the option to turn it on

[FearOfTheEar]

Her how do you do training with other classes

[CaveJohnsonAperture]

@FearOfTheEar They just use the same map with bots.

[oiramldx]

I love how Pyro still doesn't have any new taunts.

[OluapPlayer]

FOYIAH!

[MasterOfTheMarsh]

You should really add a reload animation of some kind, even an animated light or a moving bar that fills up similar to the Jarate would help indicate whats happening, and make the weapon feel more like it belongs in your hands.

[HypotheDragon]

@MasterOfTheMarsh I hate to see it, but with Valve, I think it is VERY unlikely we'll see any type of new animations for weapons that don't specifically need it.

The Loch n' Load is a good example. I hate to sound like a whiner on the SPUF, but the reload on that is still jacked up.

And yes, a reload for the Man Melter would be nice.

[OddworldCrash]

AhAhAh! On FIRE fire

[skatehero789]

I got all the new pyro weapons

[shutupisaprayer]

CS:S is way better

[forgehe]

@shutupisaprayer i will dislike all of your comments

[ArmageddonINclouds]

@shutupisaprayer cs:s sucks ;)

[imakecomments123]

@shutupisaprayer Then why are you here?

[teagod2004]

I still use flare IMO.

[The0HN0ES]

Awesome kill icon, Valve.

[VolksWagon537]

WTF?? I thought these laser-type weapons (minus the Cowmangler mind you) cannot be reflected!? hmmm... a bug.

[9000Platinum]

Good going Valve. You just made the Flare Gun AND Detonator both useless with one weapon.

[sergiuung]

@9000Platinum not really. The fact that it doesn't crit burning enemies is a big downside. Yes, you can get crits by extinguishing people but it's still a bit of a problem sometimes. The detonator was never useful.

[TwilightKun4]

the vial needs to empty and refill for each shot, that way we can tell when we're ready to fire rather then holding down M1

[trainguy111]

Can the alt fire deflect projectiles?

[gmlg]

@trainguy111 nope, just absorb fire

[marios97]

It's Flaregun for teamplayers :P Help friends and get critz :)

[cpandroblox]

Did you re-release thus episode?

[Bruss48]

They should redo this to show the delay in the Manmelter.

[metoxys]

So... except for "No random crits" and "No crits on burning players" and maybe "No reload animation" the Manmelter is a direct flaregun upgrade? Sexy

[fashnek]

@metoxys The lack of crits is a huge drawback, enough that I would not call this an upgrade. It's a sidegrade at best for most players.

[TheMangecu]

@metoxys YOu almost look like you're saying that "no crits on burning player" isn't a big downside. They added the +50% speed because it was useless without it

[EBAfanReborn]

@metoxys the crit on burning players is a huge downside, what the hell are you talking about

[metoxys]

@EBAfanReborn Maybe. *sniff sniff* Maybe.

[solisvictor1991]

so the pyro is a huntsman with the ability to one shot 70% of the classes?

I vote we remove any tags that represents this game as "class based" because the only weakness of the pyro just because its 2nd best strength only matched by the sniper him self.

[oiramldx]

@solisvictor1991 Pyro has been doing that since 2008 son.

[ZuValvesWaMpY]

Did u saw that kill icon? It's from flare gun or mostly from detonator

[OaiaNeagra5000]

lol it says that its' projectiles cant be deflected, but in the end it is shown that you can. is that a bug??

[TheMangecu]

@OaiaNeagra5000 Indeed

[duo3456]

@OaiaNeagra5000 yes they forgot to add the word "easily" after deflected

[Greatdictator]

@OaiaNeagra5000

if it is it seems to be the same one thats on the cow mangler

[TheCakeIsNotLie]

@OaiaNeagra5000 Of course. 

[ZombieMonkey7]

@OaiaNeagra5000 I demand this video be redone!

[StuntmanRafalPL]

@OaiaNeagra5000 it can be deflected

[mac98ok]

@OaiaNeagra5000 yes is a bug. valve please fix the bug

[Aelfredus26]

+50% projectile speed? Looks like +10%. Or maybe I can't tell because the Flare Gun is already very fast.

[SonGOKUSSJ6]

@Aelfredus26 Manmelter's projectile speed is higher than Flare Gun's. Look at the vid again carefully.

[TARINunit9]

I still say it needs some kind of beep to tell you when it's ready to shoot again

[ArchzAngel]

Rate of fire is actually a bit lower than the flare gun. Please show it.

[krusader85]

this weapon is great

[Shaosprojects]

you keep stacking crits rapidly on manmelter until they die.

[1rilk11]

what happens if your teammate is being cooked while you are vacuuming?

[metoxys]

@1rilk11 Magic. *snort snort*

[shippo7890]

FUS RO DERP

[maccus17]

WOOOO !!!!! OH YAAAAAAAAH!!!!

[lolauses]

was



[lolauses]

Wondering why it was redone

[OfficialTF2Wiki]

This video has been redone to add projectile speed comparisons (1:36).

[JacomeFelg]

@OfficialTF2Wiki

also the animation was fixed