@Skoda130 Engine is in the back. More weight on the driving wheels means more traction. Having the driving wheels anywhere else would mean even more slippage. It's driver error that causes that jackknifing. He could just reverse to solve it though.
@RealCadde A middle-wheel-drive, middle-engined configuration was the norm for artics built for the Scandinavian market up until the 90s, and those buses do remarkably well in the snow. Those built after that time are typically rear engined and rear wheel driven due to accessibility requirements. They are largely being retired early due to not being able to cope with the winter. The bus in the video doesn't look low-entry to me. It's a mystery why anyone would engineer such a contraption. :)
They aren't bad, but in this kind of weather no bus should even be on the road. He'll never get it out of that jackknife because the front end has no traction and he's just pushing it around.
Yeah, why can't they just add a secondary engine in the front section for these kind of problems? I saw a worse event, where a bus was trying to get out of the snow. It moved a foot, and then bounced back a foot. It's that traction and pull/push disadvantage
That is completely impractical and even if attempted, it would just make the vehicle unstable and completely useless for transporting passengers. The "worse event" sounds like the same problem as depicted in the video : DON'T DRIVE A BUS IN THE SNOW.
@WunderDoob Impractical? Really? Just a "little" more weight in the center and have the center wheels help the rear wheels doesn't seem to impractical to me.
Problem was, the bus I saw was not on ice, but in a 3 ft wall of snow. But I'll agree with you that the message is not to drive a bus in the snow
@WunderDoob Generally, in winter conditions, it takes maintenance to keep the roads driveable, but snow isn't dangerous per se. Hard-packed snow, for instance, is perfectly safe to drive on, provided it's properly gritted. It's ice that creates the worst problems with traction. A thick layer of soft snow can be a problem with vehicles with low ground clearance. Snow chains help a lot with traction, though we tend not to use them in Finland.
They really should have changed the route of the bus so it wouldn't have to climb up that hill during the snow storm. i live in NYC and i live on a hill and it just also happens to be the last stop for one of the city buses. when it snows like hard which we have on the ground now! the buses don't come up and down the hill just to make it safer.. and with a bus that size i can see why he or she was having problems.
And Metro keeps telling us that they HAVE to put the articulates out when it snows....or there wont be enough buses to cover all the routes. Ummmm...if 3/4s of the articulated buses are stuck in the snow, then, now, you dont have enough buses...and NO ONE ELSE CAN GET AROUND THEM. Will someone please tell King County Metro to grow a brain.
The engine and drive wheels are in the "trailer"....think about it,
As strange as it may seem, the drive wheels are in the back. The engine is back there too.
I'm a bus mechanic and I fix these 60 foot new flyer "high floor" buses all the time. In the winter we chain them up but those 3 axle buses just aren't made to handle the snow.
Stupid, idiotic behaviour from typical american driver. Gee, it's winter, it's slippery, i gotta get there, gotta get there now, why is that bus doin' that, why can't it just go away...
oh shit at first i noticed the red suv but then i noticed it was a double really "hey honey how bout we get real close so we can see it sliding oh this will be great"
One unique feature of an articulated bus is that the rear-most of the three axles has the drive wheels. It's like a trailer pushing a truck. This can create some interesting problems when traction gets dodgy. IMHO the red SUV should not have tried reversing toward a busy intersection. Stop, turn on the emergency flashers, and wait for the road to clear.
It is unbelievable to drive a bus on ice without the tool which is to prevent skidding, let a car alone. I believe their time and lives much more valuable than the very tool. The price of 2000 USD should be reduced, though.
Great, enjoy. Then tommorow maybe come back to youtube and pick on someone else. BTW I learned how to spell the word bus in the first grade. I hope you have a great day.
dont rag on bus drivers as you obviously dont have much education yourself. I dont work on city councel so why should I research what busses our city should purchace? The point I have made is that these articulated busses are useless on snow or ice. when the driver makes a stop and tries to go again if its slippery the bus usually wil jack-knife and passengers are left stranded.
we have those busses in ottawa ontario. The drive wheels are in the last axel. Thats comparable to having the drive wheels in the trailer. Very stupid. I see them stuck all over every storm.
@6demon6flesh6 to be honest, it's dangerous for the red suv to roll back! It will cause him having an accident and the road is slippy....so if he remains stationary no harm! and the bus had plenty room and also we are only viewing this from the back of the bus, there may of been hazards at the front. so leave the car alone...you werent there.
@6demon6flesh6 no joke, but thats how people are in seattle. i lived in new york thinking now yorkers drove rough. but once i moved to seattle, i figured they are not even comparable. seattle people drive rough.
Here the bendy buses have the center axle driven and the rear is pulled like a trailer. I prosume this bus has the rear axle driven, silly in these conditions.
Well since its realry actuly icy in seattle ice is not a real concern. and well that drive wheels on the bus realy don't present a problem in the rain.
lol, it is not about hurt. It is all about money. Do you know how expensive it would be to build all roads again every year at every place? It is already now extremely expensive, and if all busses even used chains, you wouldn't soon have money for other things than repairing roads. =)
Way to fix the problem would be, not to buy that kind of busses for that kind of city. And secondly buy proper winter tires instead of those slicks. =)
Oh and third, the road maintance to put someone putting salt or gravel on the slippy hills.
they are not the "wrong bussed for that kind of city" its Seattle WA it rarely snows or ices up there, it mostly well rains, They don't make winter tires for buses nore slicks.
They do have street crews with plows and sand trucks, its called its a big city with lots of streets, also did I mention it rearly snows or gets Icy, so finical it makes little since to have extremely large amounts of equipment waiting for the rare event. Why wast tax payer money?
Well, making the middle axle as drive axle, would be better solution, and it wouldn't cost more when building it, and that works well everywhere. That's how that kind of busses are built here, and they work well in snow and ice.
And, there is tires for busses for snow conditions. Or even all season tires. Though, if it rarely snows like you said, you are right, they are useless. But the road maintain could be done better in that case? Well :) It always happens. It won't ever be perfect.
Can't believe that stupid red SUV didn't get out of the way when the 8 ton bus is right uphill from it sliding down... must have been a female driver for sure
@Carlitabay We have to drive aggressive due to the helter-skelter way women and old people drive while talking on their cell phones, texting, applying makup, or god knows what.
@mrhozer Can you be any more sexist?! If that's the way you look at all women, I assume you are woefully single, and will remain so. Yes, stupid driver, should have moved, blah blah blah, but where is he going to go?! Backwards straight into an arterial? I wouldn't! Not really a whole lot of options for them at that point. Don't be such a pig, and get some respect for women. Or else you'll never get laid.
@faeriefiddler I get plenty of action, thanks for your concern. "She" could easily have backed up at an angle towards the curb. I have plenty of respect for women, but do yourself a favor and keep a mental not of how many accidents you see which are caused by women, and glance over at the driver every time you see someone driving erratically.
Depends what kind of articulated bus. If it was a puller artic (which has the middle wheels driven by an engine in the front half) it would hav better success with this sort of icy hill. Unlike this pusher which has the wheels on the trailer driven, and thus will lose traction and jacknife as shown above.
My dad (who works for Metro) told me that at least one articulated bus actually ripped in half on Thursday, so all articulated buses have been taken off the roads. Evidently each bus costs Metro about 1mil, and with Tim Eyman in town ... Metro ain't got a budget surplus
Guess this is a pusher (engine at the backside of the bus). In a bus where engine was placed at the first part of the bus this problem won't get worser. So pushers sucks!
We have the same problem with local buses in the mountain area of Buda at winter... kind of funny and interesting to look at, but dangerous and stressful for the driver. unfortunately
I wonder, if the front to rear connection was stiffend in these conditions or locked straight, would it help? It's hard to drive a permanently jack-knifed bus!!!
Im pretty sure theres anti lock brakes on them, they have traction control also, here in my city, hamilton we have DE60LFRs by New Flyer and their actually good in the snow, and for those who dont know, its a restyled hybrid articulated bus which is the first in canada, the are 2007 busses.
obviously you have never driven one in a snow storm my friend the whole back end sways, and going up and sort of hill good luck .... they are looking for a way to override the ATC on our de60lfrs in storm situations because the drive trains can be unresponsive
Mercedes and Volvo had similar arrangements in some chassis. Unfortunately nowadays the requirement for low floor vehicles makes the provision of a rear-engine/rear-drive a necessity unless the operator is prepared to compromise on low floor space - i.e. there was a Sydney operator who took delivery of Volvo artics with Custom Coaches bodies providing low-floor entry at the front and space for 2 wheelchairs...
To expand on previous comments - the bus in question is of the rear engine, rear drive type - which is useless in low-adhesion conditions as we see here, because the trailer is trying to push the front section of the bus.
To overcome this, manufacturers started offering mid-engined buses, and MAN offered a rear-engined artic with a driveshaft under the turntable driving the centre axle. Renault's PR180.2 was also rear-engined with both the centre and rear axles powered.
This obviously happened because the trailer is almost on the jacknife angle, its also trailer driven, and probably because the driver had the front wheels turned at an opposing angle... the trailer just wants to push the mid axle sideways rather than forward.
This just proves that common sense doesnt exsist. Would common sense not tell you not to use bendy buses in the snow?!?! We have bendy buses in scotland and they never get use when its been snowing heavily......like i said, its just COMMON SENSE!
The problem is, that the third axle is driven. To drive all wheels or the just the second, we have to solve the problem of being low floored - because where do we put the engine? In Hungary there's a limit for the buses to get into this kind of situation - when the angle of the two parts reaches about 36°, the bus stops. But the problem with the third-axle driven buses is the same.
true. If this bus was set up like a MAN,having the engine mid mounted driving the 2nd axle,he would get up that hill better. In this situation,all he could have done is back up,making sure that car waiting would get the hell out of the way and take an alternate route.
I would've watched from a bigger distance, looking at the guy in the suv :P.
Bus drivers are talented indeed, I can't get why we have so much trouble when it snowes around here (The Netherlands).
Last winter a bus nearly skidded off the road causing it to fall down almost 6 meters (it just left the onramp of a bridge) but maybe that's just because they love to pump buses full of computerequipment around here ...
WOW! Bus drivers are the most talented drivers. Any normal driver would try getting out of that and they would fail, crash and burn too. I could give a list of amazing things bus drivers have done, but why? Everyone should ride the bus and witness their own.
Buses are the best, every one should ride in them. It's good for the environment and it's a good for human social life. It beats siting in a car any day.
And for exactly this reason we don't have busses in my town because it snow a lot here
spongebobtrampdude 1 month ago
Very sad enough, what a hell for the driver!
Flyermac 2 months ago
stupid guy with the red true to stupid to back up just stand there
adnan1985gti 2 months ago
Well jeez, no need to get all bent outa shape.
TheRantingCabbie 3 months ago
Anyone else loving the 9000 at 0:25?
MASTERSKITLEZ 3 months ago 5
@MASTERSKITLEZ Yep by the way its a 900
BritishAirsofters 3 months ago
He had a chance to get by the bus lol 0:32
MVRTA108 3 months ago
if I were in that red car, I'd be long gone by then
tom53332 3 months ago 18
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joetomamymon 4 months ago
Ohh. There's the metro bus. hahaha
joetomamymon 4 months ago
That bus is basically jack-knifed and should call to dispatch becausr it needs a wrecker. Not to mention the bus may haved been damaged.
carnivalwrkr2005 5 months ago
That's one reason why mid-engine artic buses are good on snow...
Racer106Hacker 5 months ago
those bus' are utter shite!
louandnan 5 months ago
Why are the driving wheels on the trailing car? No wonder it jackknifes on slippery hills.
Skoda130 7 months ago
@Skoda130 Engine is in the back. More weight on the driving wheels means more traction. Having the driving wheels anywhere else would mean even more slippage. It's driver error that causes that jackknifing. He could just reverse to solve it though.
RealCadde 6 months ago
@RealCadde A middle-wheel-drive, middle-engined configuration was the norm for artics built for the Scandinavian market up until the 90s, and those buses do remarkably well in the snow. Those built after that time are typically rear engined and rear wheel driven due to accessibility requirements. They are largely being retired early due to not being able to cope with the winter. The bus in the video doesn't look low-entry to me. It's a mystery why anyone would engineer such a contraption. :)
magicm00 5 months ago
seattle metro baby yea
racingchamp101 9 months ago
Spotted both a SAAB and a Volvo in that video. :)
KimHjalmarsson 9 months ago
STUP{IDIEST car driver I ever seen. Probably women
rawux1228 9 months ago
Articulated buses suck in the drive train and control category
N5505KD 10 months ago
They aren't bad, but in this kind of weather no bus should even be on the road. He'll never get it out of that jackknife because the front end has no traction and he's just pushing it around.
WunderDoob 9 months ago
@WunderDoob
Yeah, why can't they just add a secondary engine in the front section for these kind of problems? I saw a worse event, where a bus was trying to get out of the snow. It moved a foot, and then bounced back a foot. It's that traction and pull/push disadvantage
N5505KD 9 months ago
@N5505KD
That is completely impractical and even if attempted, it would just make the vehicle unstable and completely useless for transporting passengers. The "worse event" sounds like the same problem as depicted in the video : DON'T DRIVE A BUS IN THE SNOW.
WunderDoob 9 months ago
@WunderDoob Impractical? Really? Just a "little" more weight in the center and have the center wheels help the rear wheels doesn't seem to impractical to me.
Problem was, the bus I saw was not on ice, but in a 3 ft wall of snow. But I'll agree with you that the message is not to drive a bus in the snow
N5505KD 9 months ago
@WunderDoob We manage perfectly well with buses in the snow, thank you.
magicm00 5 months ago
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WunderDoob 5 months ago
Respond to this video...
Must be why when I was a kid in Mason County they would cancel school because it WASN'T SAFE TO DRIVE IN THE SNOW.
hmmm wow imagine that.
WunderDoob 5 months ago
@WunderDoob Generally, in winter conditions, it takes maintenance to keep the roads driveable, but snow isn't dangerous per se. Hard-packed snow, for instance, is perfectly safe to drive on, provided it's properly gritted. It's ice that creates the worst problems with traction. A thick layer of soft snow can be a problem with vehicles with low ground clearance. Snow chains help a lot with traction, though we tend not to use them in Finland.
magicm00 5 months ago
limited success? really?
verocesitar26 10 months ago
man im surprised that car stayed there i would back the hell outa there
DaniWinston22 10 months ago
HA!!
1122jimmypop 10 months ago
I miss Seattle ):
sam19811402 1 year ago
@sam19811402 Then go back.
RandellScandal01 9 months ago
Thanks for sharing. That idiot in the SUV was not helping the situation at all
QWILDER 1 year ago
They really should have changed the route of the bus so it wouldn't have to climb up that hill during the snow storm. i live in NYC and i live on a hill and it just also happens to be the last stop for one of the city buses. when it snows like hard which we have on the ground now! the buses don't come up and down the hill just to make it safer.. and with a bus that size i can see why he or she was having problems.
KamidakeRed 1 year ago
lol it's such a bad idea to have the articulated buses out! rear wheel drive and flexy in the middle? it's like a damn nun chuk lol
sentineloffreedom 1 year ago
And Metro keeps telling us that they HAVE to put the articulates out when it snows....or there wont be enough buses to cover all the routes. Ummmm...if 3/4s of the articulated buses are stuck in the snow, then, now, you dont have enough buses...and NO ONE ELSE CAN GET AROUND THEM. Will someone please tell King County Metro to grow a brain.
The engine and drive wheels are in the "trailer"....think about it,
pdroppelman 1 year ago
What intersection?
HUSKY57887 1 year ago
Nah the guy in the red car was like 'oh hey this is cool im gonna film this'
benny2511 1 year ago
guy in the red car is to busy jackin off to see that he should probably move
jonp1116 1 year ago
Tell all the passengers to go to the front section, so the driving wheels can have traction. It's not rocket science.
Landrew0 1 year ago
@Landrew0
As strange as it may seem, the drive wheels are in the back. The engine is back there too.
I'm a bus mechanic and I fix these 60 foot new flyer "high floor" buses all the time. In the winter we chain them up but those 3 axle buses just aren't made to handle the snow.
vention4wh 1 year ago
@Landrew0 Which wheels do you think are driven?
electricshockproof 1 year ago
Did the bus ever make it, or did it back down the hill..?
Howard1939 1 year ago
Да америкосы тупые для вас это катастрофа, а у нас каждый второй метр покрыт льдом и нам ПОХУЙ
CryMix950 1 year ago
Bus: !!! YOU SHALL NOT PASS !!!!
red car: Mad face
RaWxGAMERx 1 year ago
Red car: Access Denied!
misscray1 1 year ago
Stupid, idiotic behaviour from typical american driver. Gee, it's winter, it's slippery, i gotta get there, gotta get there now, why is that bus doin' that, why can't it just go away...
foxzone51 1 year ago
the driver in the red car is retarded
1Troubl3zLokz3 1 year ago
<<< for more crashes in the snow
daninfinity 1 year ago
red car: "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"
koldmorth 1 year ago
They were having the same problems in 1990. Articulated buses and icy hilly streets don't mix.
soultrain0217 1 year ago
The red SUV probably was scared of sliding into the traffic behind it if it tried to move right.
peglew2 1 year ago
oh shit at first i noticed the red suv but then i noticed it was a double really "hey honey how bout we get real close so we can see it sliding oh this will be great"
jeremiahskates 1 year ago
Wow a sign of the times today. Idiot in the red SUV couldn't give the bus driver a break so he can back out. Self centered idiots.
7477238 1 year ago
Idiot in the SUV needed to move.
Oh man. Glad I wasn't on that bus. I would have soiled my armor.
AniRemi 1 year ago
One unique feature of an articulated bus is that the rear-most of the three axles has the drive wheels. It's like a trailer pushing a truck. This can create some interesting problems when traction gets dodgy. IMHO the red SUV should not have tried reversing toward a busy intersection. Stop, turn on the emergency flashers, and wait for the road to clear.
gnrands50 1 year ago
nice truck at 0:15
powerstrokediesel100 1 year ago
GO PUSH!
ErlendAnderson 1 year ago
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ErlendAnderson,
GO PUSH!
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go push is NO help,,,
time is put it on chain tires on this bus
bestamerica 1 year ago
the bus could of slide into the car pushing it into traffic were it can get t boned
TheFockeWoIfReturn 1 year ago
It is unbelievable to drive a bus on ice without the tool which is to prevent skidding, let a car alone. I believe their time and lives much more valuable than the very tool. The price of 2000 USD should be reduced, though.
noskidable 1 year ago
if i was in that durango i would be getting the hell out of there
supreme2005 1 year ago
I thought buses are strong on snow
LESTERNIDOY 1 year ago
Lawl bus fail!!
Iwillbetall 1 year ago
@PurpleXity1 Busses already have engines in the front, not all but some!
madjimms 1 year ago
It's a pity that our device should not be available in your area.
MASAIINA 2 years ago
Great, enjoy. Then tommorow maybe come back to youtube and pick on someone else. BTW I learned how to spell the word bus in the first grade. I hope you have a great day.
beleafer81 2 years ago 2
dont rag on bus drivers as you obviously dont have much education yourself. I dont work on city councel so why should I research what busses our city should purchace? The point I have made is that these articulated busses are useless on snow or ice. when the driver makes a stop and tries to go again if its slippery the bus usually wil jack-knife and passengers are left stranded.
beleafer81 2 years ago 4
@PurpleXity1
Hey douchebag, it was the cities idea to buy these busses that was stupid, not the bus itself. Get a clue mr. internet smartass.
beleafer81 2 years ago 2
we have those busses in ottawa ontario. The drive wheels are in the last axel. Thats comparable to having the drive wheels in the trailer. Very stupid. I see them stuck all over every storm.
beleafer81 2 years ago 5
the person in the red is ??? stupid to stay there. Could at least get out of the way so the bus could have all the room to move.
6demon6flesh6 2 years ago 108
@6demon6flesh6 to be honest, it's dangerous for the red suv to roll back! It will cause him having an accident and the road is slippy....so if he remains stationary no harm! and the bus had plenty room and also we are only viewing this from the back of the bus, there may of been hazards at the front. so leave the car alone...you werent there.
Gooonns 1 year ago
@6demon6flesh6 no joke, but thats how people are in seattle. i lived in new york thinking now yorkers drove rough. but once i moved to seattle, i figured they are not even comparable. seattle people drive rough.
RosellaRo 1 year ago
@6demon6flesh6 It's seattle, drivers usually stop and stare there. very strange people mos def.
mishalo 1 year ago
@6demon6flesh6 woulda been funny if it slid backwards and hit him... that woulda taught him to move
jrdragster3323 1 year ago
@6demon6flesh6 Thats a woman xD
MrArgunec 11 months ago
@6demon6flesh6 Sure the filmer
Techdeckhelpers 8 months ago
kang
1873qwerty 2 years ago
Dont ya know those busses drive poorly up snowy hills cause thers only 1 engine AND the bus is heavier since its longer
GoldenSlurpee 2 years ago
Bit stupid of the red car to stay where it was, and not reverse, just in case the bus came back down the hill.
wazztie16 2 years ago 4
"RTA Cleavland we may have a problem."
(To make up for some recent route cuts, they've started using Articulated buses on some of the mainline routes, we have a lot of hills in the burbs.)
BurlingtonNorthernRy 2 years ago
Bus or train? lol.
dragonblood199 2 years ago
Gm...)
jerseyflex238 2 years ago
does that red car think its safer to be pushed into the road by a sliding bus or drive around it?
Turkeysitar 2 years ago 52
I wondered how they straigtened it out?
SPS148669 2 years ago
at least the bus drivers uses the 4 way flashers
MovieInventor 2 years ago
winter fail
thundergod989 2 years ago
I don't that articulated bus can blend 90 degree!
Danny19921125 2 years ago
...?
719FoxRider719 2 years ago
Here the bendy buses have the center axle driven and the rear is pulled like a trailer. I prosume this bus has the rear axle driven, silly in these conditions.
EnigmaNZ1 2 years ago 3
@EnigmaNZ1
Well since its realry actuly icy in seattle ice is not a real concern. and well that drive wheels on the bus realy don't present a problem in the rain.
americancarguy 2 years ago
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bestamerica 2 years ago
Because it destroys the roads . . .
Yes is safe, and is good traction, but there is nothing left of the tarmac, if cars were using chains. Especially if heavy bus does it.
offfiman 2 years ago 4
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because the road is destroy,,,
that is NO excuse for a road,,,
the road is NOT hurt and NOT pain as ouch,,,
the road is not human / huwoman,,,
people are hurt and ouch if accident is badly than road,,,
the road can be repair easily,,,
the road is not going to hospital
bestamerica 2 years ago
lol, it is not about hurt. It is all about money. Do you know how expensive it would be to build all roads again every year at every place? It is already now extremely expensive, and if all busses even used chains, you wouldn't soon have money for other things than repairing roads. =)
offfiman 2 years ago
who is " you ",,,
i am not,,,
dont worry about currency,,,
currency is cheap talk,,,
city hall and DMV / DOT can take care of it
bestamerica 2 years ago
clearly your a kid and not a person in the working business.
We pay taxes to fix those roads... more roads needed to be fixed... more money we pay. city hall get's it's money from taxpayers (aka your parents)
jellyfishingftwlol 2 years ago
cont.
Way to fix the problem would be, not to buy that kind of busses for that kind of city. And secondly buy proper winter tires instead of those slicks. =)
Oh and third, the road maintance to put someone putting salt or gravel on the slippy hills.
offfiman 2 years ago 4
@offfiman
they are not the "wrong bussed for that kind of city" its Seattle WA it rarely snows or ices up there, it mostly well rains, They don't make winter tires for buses nore slicks.
They do have street crews with plows and sand trucks, its called its a big city with lots of streets, also did I mention it rearly snows or gets Icy, so finical it makes little since to have extremely large amounts of equipment waiting for the rare event. Why wast tax payer money?
americancarguy 2 years ago
Well, making the middle axle as drive axle, would be better solution, and it wouldn't cost more when building it, and that works well everywhere. That's how that kind of busses are built here, and they work well in snow and ice.
And, there is tires for busses for snow conditions. Or even all season tires. Though, if it rarely snows like you said, you are right, they are useless. But the road maintain could be done better in that case? Well :) It always happens. It won't ever be perfect.
offfiman 2 years ago 3
nice engrish
oracleofdevi 2 years ago
Look at the a-hole in the red suv who just sits there so the bus can't back out....
grizzleypeak 2 years ago 5
Sweden has the same type of bus, sometimes they can never even pull out of the darn busstop without sliding to the sides or wont move at all
AntTzZor 2 years ago 3
so ein holz
vilou12 2 years ago
After this snowstorm of 2008, there were no more chains, shovels, or gloves in the stores, even if you could get there to buy them.
cellestialX 2 years ago
yeah, Vancouver and Portland got hit pretty bad, but not as bad as Seattle
DHFHades 2 years ago
Who was the idiot that thought an articulated bus on snow was a good idea?
JspookSS 3 years ago
The driver who was dispatched by their stupidvisor i mean supervisor thought the same thing
Leecogic 2 years ago
He gets paid waiting for the tow-truck :D
NorwegicusOnAstick 3 years ago
at least TWO of them didn't almost go flying on top of I-5 like those moronic tour bus pilots, oops, I mean drivers.
w3bt3k 3 years ago
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Can't believe that stupid red SUV didn't get out of the way when the 8 ton bus is right uphill from it sliding down... must have been a female driver for sure
mrhozer 3 years ago 40
@mrhozer DICK, male drivers are worse!
Gooonns 1 year ago
@Gooonns Your secrets out lady... we all know YOUR THE DRIVER OF THE RED SUV! since you insist on defending the driver (you).
mrhozer 1 year ago
@mrhozer a blonde chick
HappyDiscoDeath 1 year ago
@mrhozer as if male drivers are good! they are the biggest risk takers and rudest drivers I have seen, especially the young arrogant boys
Carlitabay 1 year ago
@Carlitabay We have to drive aggressive due to the helter-skelter way women and old people drive while talking on their cell phones, texting, applying makup, or god knows what.
mrhozer 1 year ago
@mrhozer Can you be any more sexist?! If that's the way you look at all women, I assume you are woefully single, and will remain so. Yes, stupid driver, should have moved, blah blah blah, but where is he going to go?! Backwards straight into an arterial? I wouldn't! Not really a whole lot of options for them at that point. Don't be such a pig, and get some respect for women. Or else you'll never get laid.
faeriefiddler 1 year ago
@faeriefiddler I get plenty of action, thanks for your concern. "She" could easily have backed up at an angle towards the curb. I have plenty of respect for women, but do yourself a favor and keep a mental not of how many accidents you see which are caused by women, and glance over at the driver every time you see someone driving erratically.
mrhozer 1 year ago
I wonder why the motorist didnt move out of the way
jackiechan511 3 years ago 2
ice hill and artic bus = bad works
FBZugBus 3 years ago
Depends what kind of articulated bus. If it was a puller artic (which has the middle wheels driven by an engine in the front half) it would hav better success with this sort of icy hill. Unlike this pusher which has the wheels on the trailer driven, and thus will lose traction and jacknife as shown above.
B58PMCSA 2 years ago 3
oh you´re right !
this one type with the engine and the driven wheels in the end are bad for go on icy hills...
thank you for this comment
FBZugBus 2 years ago 2
My dad (who works for Metro) told me that at least one articulated bus actually ripped in half on Thursday, so all articulated buses have been taken off the roads. Evidently each bus costs Metro about 1mil, and with Tim Eyman in town ... Metro ain't got a budget surplus
arielmeadow 3 years ago 3
you can find them on ebay sometimes, i'd like to buy one and convert it into an rv
sgtpepper1138 2 years ago 2
seattle looooool nooby seattle with buses almost flying on to the highway cause of a little bit of ice
itsmeeso 3 years ago
LOL, I'm glad my bus had chains on them.
ChinkyChinkJack 3 years ago
Chains don't help much on ice.
slandshark 3 years ago
that bus might not have had chains, i can't tell.
ChinkyChinkJack 3 years ago
What? Chains are great on ice, that's what they are made for.
Elk4758 3 years ago 2
you want studded tires for ice..doesn't help much when cornering but uphill they're great
jiggyshit 3 years ago
do not mess with me! bus rules?
tiagom135 3 years ago
Guess this is a pusher (engine at the backside of the bus). In a bus where engine was placed at the first part of the bus this problem won't get worser. So pushers sucks!
NovioSites 3 years ago
In this weather agreed.
MaciekPL87 3 years ago
That's because of automatic, clutch is saver in this situations..
Lukans89 3 years ago
Automatics have a torque converter. Manual would be harder, especially with a heavy duty bus clutch.
WTCHME 3 years ago
HAHA "limited success"
mjuellarsen 3 years ago
We have the same problem with local buses in the mountain area of Buda at winter... kind of funny and interesting to look at, but dangerous and stressful for the driver. unfortunately
Ikaruszaki 3 years ago
I wonder, if the front to rear connection was stiffend in these conditions or locked straight, would it help? It's hard to drive a permanently jack-knifed bus!!!
VideyoJunkei 3 years ago 2
Ha Ha, I bet the MANs artics could handle it than those weak ass low floors.
qwandiddy 4 years ago
yeah MAN rules! lol
Dennizis 4 years ago
Dude, that was a New Flyer high floor.
VenerableEvil 3 years ago
high floor? what a shame! lol
Dennizis 3 years ago
yeah, like it should help push or something
ct110spitfire 4 years ago
Is it the Active Traction Control Like On The New Flyer Low Floor Hybrid Artics ?
Dreadpiratejay 4 years ago
Im pretty sure theres anti lock brakes on them, they have traction control also, here in my city, hamilton we have DE60LFRs by New Flyer and their actually good in the snow, and for those who dont know, its a restyled hybrid articulated bus which is the first in canada, the are 2007 busses.
Chris06299 3 years ago
obviously you have never driven one in a snow storm my friend the whole back end sways, and going up and sort of hill good luck .... they are looking for a way to override the ATC on our de60lfrs in storm situations because the drive trains can be unresponsive
Dreadpiratejay 3 years ago
eh.
Hiei2k7 4 years ago
(Part 3)
...before raising the floor to accommodate a horizontally mounted engine at the rear of the tractor powering the centre axle.
Unfortunately, that is about the only way to provide both decent handling and low-floor space.
jb20kx 4 years ago
(Part 2)
Mercedes and Volvo had similar arrangements in some chassis. Unfortunately nowadays the requirement for low floor vehicles makes the provision of a rear-engine/rear-drive a necessity unless the operator is prepared to compromise on low floor space - i.e. there was a Sydney operator who took delivery of Volvo artics with Custom Coaches bodies providing low-floor entry at the front and space for 2 wheelchairs...
jb20kx 4 years ago
(1)
To expand on previous comments - the bus in question is of the rear engine, rear drive type - which is useless in low-adhesion conditions as we see here, because the trailer is trying to push the front section of the bus.
To overcome this, manufacturers started offering mid-engined buses, and MAN offered a rear-engined artic with a driveshaft under the turntable driving the centre axle. Renault's PR180.2 was also rear-engined with both the centre and rear axles powered.
jb20kx 4 years ago
This obviously happened because the trailer is almost on the jacknife angle, its also trailer driven, and probably because the driver had the front wheels turned at an opposing angle... the trailer just wants to push the mid axle sideways rather than forward.
girlsonfilm87 4 years ago
This just proves that common sense doesnt exsist. Would common sense not tell you not to use bendy buses in the snow?!?! We have bendy buses in scotland and they never get use when its been snowing heavily......like i said, its just COMMON SENSE!
coldo121 4 years ago
Limited success :-)
Speedpilot2 4 years ago
Without Traction control or Chains, sorry for the double post.
TuneRVisioN510 4 years ago
Even MTA NYCT D60HF's can handle snow better.
TuneRVisioN510 4 years ago
wow THE D60's in seattle are so weak on snow
Jomarie574 4 years ago
lol he's fucked.
Dershnof 4 years ago
ahah i ilve in seattle!!!! in snowin now!!!
shewit08 4 years ago
I cant wait until I mooooooooooooooooove to Seattle
kevinlovessnow 4 years ago
Wow.I wish I was on there.
ECDT1089 4 years ago
You know, that's something that never occurred to me. It would of been interesting being ON the bus.
SkiMbl 4 years ago
The problem is, that the third axle is driven. To drive all wheels or the just the second, we have to solve the problem of being low floored - because where do we put the engine? In Hungary there's a limit for the buses to get into this kind of situation - when the angle of the two parts reaches about 36°, the bus stops. But the problem with the third-axle driven buses is the same.
olahjoci 4 years ago
true. If this bus was set up like a MAN,having the engine mid mounted driving the 2nd axle,he would get up that hill better. In this situation,all he could have done is back up,making sure that car waiting would get the hell out of the way and take an alternate route.
6V92TA 4 years ago
I wander why they don't have those down here in Portland?
salemcripple 4 years ago
Why doesn't that guy in the Suv pull over to the side so the driver doesn't have to back up so much.
dean55 4 years ago
that was great,iv been driving artics for a month and people dond realise how hard they are to drive...they just prefer to lay on the horn(idiots)
great clip
gablia02 4 years ago
thats one disadvantage of these kinds of buses.
jfs1988 4 years ago
I would've watched from a bigger distance, looking at the guy in the suv :P.
Bus drivers are talented indeed, I can't get why we have so much trouble when it snowes around here (The Netherlands).
Last winter a bus nearly skidded off the road causing it to fall down almost 6 meters (it just left the onramp of a bridge) but maybe that's just because they love to pump buses full of computerequipment around here ...
Nice video ! :)
Dutch3DMaster 4 years ago
WOW! Bus drivers are the most talented drivers. Any normal driver would try getting out of that and they would fail, crash and burn too. I could give a list of amazing things bus drivers have done, but why? Everyone should ride the bus and witness their own.
VomitSelf7 4 years ago
thank you a bit of appreciation.....finally!!!
gablia02 4 years ago
Buses are the best, every one should ride in them. It's good for the environment and it's a good for human social life. It beats siting in a car any day.
VomitSelf7 4 years ago