The Paraclete (Comforter) in Context of the Gospel of John

[followerofjesus1984]

the thing i find funny when islamists use the paraclete passage as examples of prophecies for muhammad is that they are not actually prophecies .. they are secondary promises or known as futher detail promise of the holy spirits role in salvation .. the actual prophecys this refer to are found in joel 2 and isa 44 :1-4

and this is not about a physical person but another person of the same spirit being called God that christ himself came from

[holyspiritdove]

I LIKE YOUR VIDEO AND YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE BIBLE. I WOULD LIKE TO SIMPLIFY THE PERSON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TO YOU IN UNDERSTANDABLE TERMS

AND PUT ALL YOUR CONFUSIONS TO REST .

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE RESPOND .I DO HAVE ANSWERS THAT MOST THEOLOGIANS OR YOUR CHRISTIAN FRIENDS DO NOT KNOW AND AM WILLING TO EXPLAIN IN DETAIL TO YOUR SATISFACTION.

JESUS LOVES YOU . JESUS IS GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD.

MAY THE LORD JESUS GUIDE YOU TO [THE] TRUTH GOD HIMSELF. AMEN.

[Texas75023]

Regarding this video - stating the Comforter is ONLY (emphasis on ONLY) for the Disciples (meaning the original 11 + Judas) is clearly in error. The Holy Spirit was poured out on MANY MORE on the Day of Pentecost, AND later the Holy Spirit was given to GENTILES - demonstrating the HS was for ALL believers, and not ONLY the first 12.

The error by Islamic thinkers is to IGNORE that the HS WAS promised to the 12 - Jesus said 'UNTO YOU' (meaning the Disciples) twice in his Comforter descriptions.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Whether the desciples knew him beforehand or not isn't relavent, since Jesus used the word heteros, not allos, meaning another of the SAME kind of Parakletos will come. If it was the Holy Ghost, then there would have HAD to be ATLEAST one other diff Holy Ghost among us before the Spirit of Truth for Heteros to fit with the Holy Ghost. What kind of parakletos came to us before? Humans. Unless the Holy Ghost is a human he simply can;t fit that part of the prophecy.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Within Islamic thinking, it is VERY common to ONLY focus on the one word that suits Islam's agenda. Jesus LIKE Jonas in the sign of Jonas, Deedat defines 'LIKE' to be 'ALIVE'. A prophet LIKE Moses - Islam defines to mean 'having Mother and Father' to be 'LIKE'. A comforter LIKE Jesus, Islam defines to be 'a man, a prophet'. This is how Islam completely deceives its followers, my friend. It REFEFINES the word of the Truth so that even SEEING the Truth, you see Islam's falsehood.

[Xossaa]

Comforter or Holy Spirit is from God the Father. John 15:26, Luke 11:13

God Jesus can send Holy Spirit to Christians only.

[Texas75023]

It is clear, when one honestly reads the WHOLE account and description of the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom Jesus would send, is not a human being named Mohammed, to come 600 years after the Disciples are deceived into thinking Jesus has died on the Cross.

No, the only coherent answer, if Jesus told the Truth, is that the Comforter is the Holy Spirit, the 3rd member of the Trinity, who was 'poured out' on the Disciples on the Day of Pentecost.

Seek the Truth, and BELIEVE it when you FIND it.

[LothairOfLorraine]

Gspl of Jhn 16:7, the personal pronoun is in the plural, like 'you all'. Now, that is to be read as a message only for the disciple while Jesus was with them, then for the whole Church once he had left. Jesus also warns us that 'those who kill you will think they are offering a service to God' [Jhn 16:2]. Sounds like he was warning us about Islam.

Anyhow, regardless of whom Jesus was speaking to at that point, the Spirit of Truth wasted no time in coming. It took 50 days, not 500 years!

[LothairOfLorraine]

The verses in the Gspl of Jhn do only apply to the disciples. The Spirits coming at Pentecost [Ac 2] was for the whole Church. Still confused?

[LothairOfLorraine]

The list of reasons against such a claim is far greater than two. I'll add a third. Jesus promised the arrival of the Spirit, and delivered it to the disciples after the resurrection [Jhn 21:21]. Before his ascension, the same promise was made to the whole Church [Ac 1:4-8]. Again, the authority to witness was delivered on Penecost [Ac 2]. Like it or not, the 'Muhammad/Holy Spirit' argument is as dead as a rock.

[Glorthac]

Everybody watch my explanation of the questions in this video:

/watch?v=eBrKdGm1ZgM

[thefotfoundation]

Thanks for the response. I have approved it so it is linked above.

Peace, fot

[ThePtno1]

1.Jesus is speaking to the disciples because they were the first ones to receive the Holy Spirit. It does not only refer to them but to us also. They were the first! 2.What Jesus meant was, He could not be with them on earth any longer. When He says unless I go, He means leave the earth before you. He gave them the spirit, then departed.

[onetocome]

Give it up man, Muhammad is not the Paraclete. He did not convict the world of sin. You people have no idea of what that means.

[thefotfoundation]

"He did not convict the world of sin. You people have no idea what that means"

If it werent for the arrogance within the statement, that would be quite funny.

Explain or Just Claim... your choice.

[onetocome]

What arrogance? Tell me how did Muh. convict the world of sin. How did "He" convict the world. And when did he do it, when did he personally do this. The Paraclete will do this personally with his words. Muh. never, ever glorified Jesus. He revealed the other things Jesus had to teach. Let alone the things that are to come.

[christyes]

The Holy Spirit is always here it is every-present, Jesus was saying that if he does not go the Holy Spirit will NOT COME TO DWELL WITH-IN THEM, not that it won't come at all. So those who BELIEVE in Jesus can NOW receive the Holy Spirit by being BORN AGAIN as JESUS EXPLAINED TO NECODEMUS, that is why CHRISTIANS can sincerely say the HOLY SPIRIT IS IN THEM. Understand that the Holy Spirit IS HERE and ONLY INSIDE the people WHO BELIEVE IN CHRIST. And yes they are GUIDED BY the HOLY SPIRIT.

[christyes]

Read it IN CONTEXT, you're confused because you read out of context and not following the story. In JOHN 20:22 Jesus is doing EXACTLY what he said he would do AFTER HE WAS GONE, he's giving them the Holy Spirit. In John 20:22 JESUS IS DEAD, he was already crucified. So if you read the whole account it clear, that JESUS WAS DEAD and BEFORE he ascend to heaven he gave them Holy Spirit. He said RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST. RECEIVING in this case is taking it IN, IN THIS CASE TAKING IT INTO YOURSELF.

[christyes]

JOHN 14:16 bothers you because you didn't follow the WHOLE story. JESUS WAS THEIR COMFORTER whilst HE WAS WITH THEM. And at the time he is talking with them in JOHN 14:16 HE IS THEIR COMFORTER not THE COMFORTER, so sending them ANOTHER Comforter to strengthen and guide them in his PHYSICAL ABSENCE make perfect sense, to the reader who is following the WHOLE account. They were following him, now he KNEW he was going to be with them NO MORE PHYSICALLY so he promise to send the ANOTHER comforter.

[christyes]

How can Jesus compare Himself to THE Comforter(the Holy Spirit)? Because He is also a HOLY SPIRIT as is written in the Koran that He is a Word and a Spirit from Allah.

[christyes]

So when you read the WHOLE account it's clear He is not talking about a DIFFERENT Comforter. But the contention that this Comforter that Jesus spoke of is Mohammad, the Whole account of John does not support that claim. If he was talking to his deciples and promising THEM the Holy Spirit would be IN THEM or even WITH THEM, Mohammad came over 600 yrs AFTER. And Mohammad is NOT and was NOT EVER A SPIRIT. I hope this helped, Peace.

[nighthawk7878]

fot: I don't know Jack, the person, but Jack may be making a strict interpretation (he may be justified in doing so) that in John the disciples may have interpreted that a comforter will come to them/they only. However, taking the entire New Testament, we can understand that the comforter was meant for all christians, Jew and Gentile, because we see immediately in Acts(a fews days following) that the comforter indwells non-disciples as well.

[nighthawk7878]

(continuing) And sadly, even indwells the sometimes "carnal" Corinthians also. See I and II Corinthians.

[nickofwigan66]

Fot, I have listened to your video after wathchind video called "Paraclete" by "Converted2islam" to whih I have responded regarding the coming of the Holy Spirit. If you would like to see my comments on that video I hope they might clarify your point.

[thefotfoundation]

Your comment was: "In the Gospel of John when it is said that the Spirit had not yet come (or paraclete/helper/comforter depending upon translation) it means had not yet come to the apostles, or later to disciples. It is the Holy Spirit of God, not the spirit or soul of a man."

I dont see you arrive at your last sentence. Peace, fot

[jhamv]

who is the prophet in the Gospel of John chapter 1 ( 19=>25) ((25 They questioned him again. "Why do you baptize," they asked him, "if you are neither the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet?" ))

[Texas75023]

fot, I understand the desperation Mohammedans face, trying to find some reference to MHMD in the Holy Bible.

First, Jesus did not say *ONLY* the disciples, neither did the other video. But you would ignore that Jesus WAS speaking to the disciples. You are trying to create an artificial diversion. You are intentionally claiming confusion as a deception, which is not honest on your part.

[Texas75023]

fot, lets take a look at John 14:17

14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

"But YE KNOW HIM; for HE dwelleth with you AND SHALL BE IN YOU". Jesus said the Disciples ALREADY KNEW the comforter. Boy, that has GOT to be confusing if you thing MHMD is the comforter.

When Jesus sent the Holy Spirit, it was to reside IN the disciples, not just be WITH them.

[jangear]

Hi i am not an expert in Christianity and Islam, but u said "Jesus said the Disciples ALREADY KNEW the comforter" and i know that Paul, John and the others who wrote the bible are not the Disciples of Jesus but they wrote the bible after 40 to 80 years from the time that Juses left.

But Barnabas who was a Disciples of Jesus and on this gospel he dos mention the name Mohamed/Akmed where as all the other books refer to him as the comforter?.. is that right?

[Texas75023]

Hi jangear. Barnabas was not one of the 12 disciples that Jesus picked while He ministered on Earth. Site

biblegateway dot com is an excellent on-line bible source. You can search the word "Barnabas" yourself. It first appears in Acts.

Then, you can search for "Comforter" or any other Word in the Bible. There is no mention of MHMD in the new testament as "comforter". In fact, there is no mention of MHMD in the Old Testament either.

[Texas75023]

jangear, as I pointed out, it is important to respect the whole Word of God, and to not decide your beliefs from one verse, or a part of a verse. If you look up "Comforter" at the site I said, you will find Jesus talked about the comforter several times. We must look at ALL that Jesus said describing the Comforter to know who He is.

[Texas75023]

jangear(3)

First, it is important to respect the Words of Jesus, who clearly identified the Comforter by name. John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost..." Jesus clearly says "Pnuma" which means Ghost or Spirit. And, he precedes that with "Hagios", which means sacred, pure, Holy or saints.

It is not a correct translation to change this phrase to be "prophet" as Deedat does.

Beyond this one phrase, the Comforter must ALSO meet the rest of Jesus's description.

[Texas75023]

jangear(4) John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

1)The world cannot SEE the Comforter.

2)The world doesn't know him,.

3)BUT YOU KNOW HIM; for HE dwelleth with you

4)and shall be in you.

MHMD does not fit ANY test, 1 to 4, except with a symbolic way (MHMD's words may live in you). MHMD simply does not match the description.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 There were not only 4 conditions for the Paraclete, there were about 9... He would come AFTER Jesus left us (The Holy Ghost was present during Jesus's baptism). The Paraclete would physicly speak words. ANOTHER Paraclete would come, another of the same kind - are there 2 or more Holy Ghosts? Also, the purpose of the Paraclete was to deliver the all-truth, many things which Jesus couldn't teach us. So where is this All-Truth of the Paraclete?

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 My friend, The 3rd Member of the Trinity is the Ruach Hakodesh, the Holy Spirit (also called the Spirit of Truth. Jesus SAID the Parakleetos was KNOWN TO and LIVED WITH the Disciples, my friend. DO NOT bother to try and count 9 conditions and IGNORE the MOST OBVIOUS. Jesus said he would send the Comforter TO THE DISCIPLES when he said 'TO YOU'.

HONR the WHOLE description Jesus gave if you have ANY respect for the Truth, brother. Other wise you DECEIVE YOURSELF.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 I know what the Bible says. And again, i haven't claimed that Muhammad is the Paraclete. Don't try and put words in my mouth, I haven't ignored anything. Yes there are descriptions of the Paraclete that go against Muhammad, but there are also some that fit frighteningly well with his character. However the point I was getting at is its very easy to say the Holy Ghost is NOT the paraclete for reasons which im sure you're aware of, but choose to ignore since that's all you've done here

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Actually, there are NONE that fit Mohammed that DON'T ALSO FIT 1000 other men. But the KEY to understanding BIBLE prophecy, my friend, is to SEEK OUT people who RESPECT the BIBLE and can EXPLAIN it to you. Since NO ONE in Islam respects the ACTUAL Torah and Bible, they will NEVER be able to explain it CORRECTLY to you. They will ALWAYS slant it to fit MOHAMMED in their blind obedience to him as their allah. They MUST somehow support Mohammed's CLAIM of being foretold.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 i disagree very much with that, and simple logic would aswell. if god made it so his guidance could only be understood by a handfull of people, it wouldn't be fair. God's guidance is meant to be used to create a personal connection between ourselves and our creator. I consider myself understanding, I can read and interpret scripture just fine. If i couldnt, that would mean the Bible was NOT intended for all of humanity for the rest of time.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Logically then, the Quran CANNOT be from God, can it? Because it is ONLY written for people who speak Arabic. ONLY the Quran in ARABIC is the Quran. Do you not know this about your religion? The Quran in ANY OTHER language is not respected nor claimed to be the 'Word of Allah'.

Present your PROOF if you are honest, of ANY 'personal connection' between you and allah. the Quran allows for ONLY 1 relationship, my friend. MASTER and SLAVE. You can be NO MORE than a slave.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Your point doesn't make sense. Firstly, if you read the english Bible then everything you said about the Quran can be applied to the bible too, since it was translated also. 2ndly, theres absolutely nothing wrong with semantic translations, if the meaning gets translated all is good. Yes the depth of the arabic text can't be shown in english without notes, but the guidance is still there, and reading extra notes doesnt hurt at al and usually isn't even needed..

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Anyay, i've stayed calm whilst you've continued to ignore my points, misjudge and insult me. It just shows you're weak at discussing your faith. If claims against Christianity disturb you to a point where you're unable to address arguments then get off this video. I'm asking serious questions because i want answers not insults. If you don't want to answer my questions then don't reply to my comments.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 You have stayed calm. And I am proud of you for that. If you think your question is serious, then you should seriously look for the answer and watch ANOTHER video series I produced -'Mohammed is the Comforter'. Part 1 of 4 watch?v=1sgjb-eEglQ

If you honestly desire the Truth, I will be glad to explain it to you. I apologize to stretching your patience earlier.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 So, your first point was 'The word used for another meant another of the same kind, and there is only 1 holy ghost.'

To UNDERSTAND Christian answers to your questions, my friend, you must USE Christian DEFINITIONS. If you want to state 'there is only 1 Holy Ghost', that is TRUE. There is ALSO only 1 Begotten Son of God, Jesus. The ANSWER will not make sense when you use an Islamic definition (Jesus is only a prophet, a man - therefore the Comforter must be a 'Prophet, a man').

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 You wrote 'He would come AFTER Jesus left us (The Holy Ghost was present during Jesus's baptism).'

If you READ point '3)' of my answer ABOVE (in 'Top Comments') from 4 YEARS AGO, brother, and if you would actually GO TO THE TEXT of John 14, you would see that Jesus SAID the Disciples ALREADY KNEW the Comforter. The difference is that WHEN the Holy Spirit comes, it will be TO LIVE IN the believers. BEFORE that the Holy Spirit would only descend ON THEM and then leave again.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Jesus often spoke figuratively and not clearly when speaking of divine entities. The word Parakletos was not a title but a noun, if anything is a title it would be The Spirit of Truth. Jesus himself was a parakletos, and by definition so was Moses. Jesus says ANOTHER parakletos of the SAME KIND will come. Jesus used the word SPIRIT to mean Human prophet. Much of the description of the Spirit of Truth can only be accomplished by a human, eg speaking/hearing.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Jesus was not speaking 'figuratively' of a man who was 'like him' or of the 'same kind' of man, meaning a 'prophet'. The Parakletos is described by Jesus multiple ways, my friend, and only the Holy Spirit fits the description. I see in your next message you begin declaring facts of the description 'irrelevant'. When you spit on the message of God and say His Injeel is irrelevant, you choose your own self-deception, my friend. The Disciples KNOWING the Parakletos is relevant.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 You've still not given a real answer on my argument. Jesus clearly says another of the same kind of Advocate will come when Jesus leaves us. That does NOT fit the Holy Ghost, because theres is only ONE Holy Ghost. If the Holy Ghost came to us before Jesus's prophecy (which he did) then a DIFFERENT Holy Ghost would need to come when Jesus leaves. The only verse that directly links the Holy Ghost to the Spirit of Truth is John 14:26, and ancient scripts show that to be editted in.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 The Holy Spirit of God IS ANOTHER of the 'SAME KIND' my friend. Jesus was the Unique Begotten Son of God, and was ONE WITH GOD. Only 1 other advocate, the Holy Spirit of God who is ALSO ONE WITH GOD, can be the 'same kind as Jesus'. No mere man could ever fulfill the description of the Holy Spirit.

But I understand the desperate need Islam has to try and create credentials for Mohammed from the Word of God. If Mohammed is NOT mentioned, his claims of mention were lies my friend.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 That claim rips Trinity to shreds. If the Holy Ghost is the same kind as Jesus (despite Jesus being a man in the flesh), then that would mean you believe there are atleast 2 Gods instead of one, since ANOTHER paraclete would come, same kind but different entity - it would mean Jesus and the Holy Ghost are seperate beings. Still, Jesus isn't the same kind of anything as the HoLY Ghost, if theyre both divine then they even have different types of divinities.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 No. It perfectly agrees with the Revelation of the Trinity which God has given. It is only when Islamic definition are applied that you get all confused.

Simplistic definitions for simple minds can never define God, brother. Until you stop calling the Injeel 'irrelevant', you will be confused and follow errors.

The Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, is the Comforter JUST AS Jesus described and NAMED BY NAME, my friend. Islam's desperation to shove Mohammed into this is fraud.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 What Islamic definitions am I applying to the prophecy of the spirit of truth? another of the same kind means another of the same kind... That quite clearly means that there are atleast 2 different seperate beings of what ever the Spirit of Truth is. If it's the Holy Ghost, it clearly means there had come 1 holy ghost in the past, and that a different holy ghost will come again. BTW christians scholars say the word 'holy' is out of place, and 'SPIRIT' was used for human prophet.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 It does NOT mean '2 different separate beings'. THAT is one Islamic definition. Focusing ONLY on 'another' as the ONLY word you see, and calling other descriptions 'irrelevant' is another ISLAMIC definition. You are ONLY allowed to see the traits which you think can be twisted to fit Mohammed.

And that is the WHOLE POINT, brother. You seek ONLY to twist the Word of God to fit Mohammed.

NO SCHOLAR translates 'SPIRIT' to be 'PROPHET'. That is ANOTHER Islamic definition.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Yes it DOES mean 2 different seperate beings. The actual word in the Bible: ALLOS, meaning ANOTHER of the SAME kind. If it meant another of a different kind the word used would have been heteros, so whether the ANOTHER means a seperate being or the same being we can know 1 thing for sure: the 'other' (allos) paraclete will be a MAN IN THE FLESH since Jesus was, and allos = another of the SAME kind. If it didnt mean 2 seperate beings then there are either 2 Jesus' or 2 Holy Ghosts...

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 'allos' does not mean 'MAN in the FLESH'. The SAME kind as JESUS means GOD, my friend. Mohammed was not GOD , but Jesus WAS GOD, and the Holy SPIRIT IS GOD.

Sadly, Islam's attack against the Word of God is never more then trying to change the message of the Bible by re-defining the Bible's words. You blind yourself to the Truth, brother, when you wrongly assume Islam can define the message of God. It simply cannot.

Christians KNOW and we KNOW that we KNOW, my friend.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 'allos' does not mean 'MAN in the FLESH'. The SAME kind as JESUS means GOD, my friend. Mohammed was not GOD , but Jesus WAS GOD, and the Holy SPIRIT IS GOD.

Sadly, Islam's attack against the Word of God is never more then trying to change the message of the Bible by re-defining the Bible's words. You blind yourself to the Truth, brother, when you wrongly assume Islam can define the message of God. It simply cannot.

Christians KNOW and we KNOW that we KNOW, my friend.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 In the context Jesus uses it, it DOES mean man in the flesh. You contradict yourself with that argument. If the true meaning is another GOD will come then Jesus and the Holy Ghost are entirely seperate beings. Another means where there was one there will be 2. ANOTHER can mean a second, or it can just as easily mean a 22nd, and Jesus said ANOTHER not THE OTHER, so what makes you think only 2 paracletes existed? Moses was also a paraclete, was he a God too?

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 You need to watch my NEW video about the Trinity Jesus describes in John 14. Understanding The Trinity - Part 5 - The Trinity In Believers

All the Mohammedan mental gyrations in the world will never change WHO the Comforter is, my friend. Christians KNOW WHO the comforter is because WE KNOW the Comforter! Glory to God forevermore. The Holy Spirit is the Comforter as Jesus said, not Mohammed.

And that is the WHOLE REASON Islam must attack the Truth, my friend. To claim Mohammed

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Does you new video cover the history and origin of Trinity? How very many early christians rejected trinity as being a new innovation to the already existing religion, and how those christians were forced to not utter a word against Trinity, and were massacred for their beliefs? Because that to me is a very big pivot in how correct modern christianity is. Did Jesus teach to kill all Jews for believeing differently? Ofcourse not. Jesus's teachings were hijacked by the churches.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 LOL! Since you have not bothered to watch it, you would not know. but the various distractions and subterfuges of Islam have no bearing on the Truth and TRUE History of the knowledge of the Trinity, my friend.

The COMFORTER came to teach us things we 'COULD NOT BEAR', and the knowledge that God was a 'Trinity' is exactly that - something an inflexible, legalistic monotheistic mind cannot bear to even entertain, let alone comprehend. The Holy Spirit has revealed these Truths.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 But the concept of trinity pre-dates the christian trinity (EG the Horus triune) and many were already worshipping triunes. Jesus said many truths will be taught at a later date since the people couldnt bare them. If Trinity was that truth, the thousands of christians that were silenced should have been able to handle and truely believe in Trinity - turns out they couldn't bear it..... Trinity is scarce in the Bible, yet plenty of triune doctrines can be found in pagan teachings.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Well, ponder this, my friend. If SATAN KNEW of the TRUTH of God's Triune Nature (the TRINITY) would it be in SATAN'S interest to 1)attempt to CONFUSE the TRUTH with false 'Trinities'? 2)Attempt to REFUTE and DENY the TRUE message of the Trinity 3)Create false, PAGAN religions that had '3's involved, including for example HINDU?

The TRINITY is the Truth the Comforter REVEALED, and which you still cannot bear, my friend. You do not want the Truth.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Many Christian scholars see evidence of tampering in the Bible, specially with the word Spirit. And the countless contradictions in the Bible and the cases of deliberate insertions of verses (which were later discarded) would also suggest/proove that to be true, unless you believe our God is one to make errors.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Many scholars are neither believers, nor practitioners. They are academics who earn their living on 'new' discoveries and statements. Tossing in the baseless claim of contradictions is just the next Islamic subterfuge, my friend. If you thought the Bible was 'Corrupted', you would not use it as the source of Mohammed's credentials. Your whole jihad is the same deception Islam trains you to use, brother. It is not your fault. You are no doubt sincere to follow Mohammed, not God.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 The contradictions of the bible are very far from baseless. A verse says something, another verse rebukes the prev and says something else, and this can be seen many times in the Bible. How is that baseless? Books that were once in the Bible were removed, some have been added, ancient scripts (like the Codex Syriacus) are proof of human editing. Also i'd be surprized if you knew what Jihad was, since lots of people do it and not just Muslims. What you're doing atm can be a Jihad.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 When the Quran contradicts itself and completely rebukes the previous, you call it the rule of 'Abrogation' - Allah fixing his previous mistakes. So why do you apply THAT standard to one man writing a book in the 23 years of his own life, and you do not thing God's message evolved over the 2000 years the Torah and Bible were recorded?

But all this is only a smoke screen of changing the subject from the Comforter who IS THE Holy Spirit, and can NEVER BE Mohammed.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 When the Quran contradicts itself and completely rebukes the previous, you call it the rule of 'Abrogation' - Allah fixing his previous mistakes. So why do you apply THAT standard to one man writing a book in the 23 years of his own life, and you do not thing God's message evolved over the 2000 years the Torah and Bible were recorded?

But all this is only a smoke screen of changing the subject from the Comforter who IS THE Holy Spirit, and can NEVER BE Mohammed.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 You misunderstand the 'rule' of abrogation in the Quran. It doesnt mean the Quran can abrogate itself because God knows best. It means the Quran can abrogate past revelations (ie from Moses/Jesus) since it is the final and complete guidance, aimed at the entire human race and not just a community of people. You didn't deny that the Bible contains contradictions/modifications because it's blatantly true. So do you actually believe God would include errors in his guidance?

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 WRONG, my friend. The QURAN abrogates ITSELF. Or do you NOT KNOW the Sura which says 'WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK do not go to prayers'? Do you NOT KNOW this was what Mohammed FIRST CLAIMED was Allah's position on drinking. WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK. And then the Quran abrogated this to bring more and more strict control on drinking.

Abrogation is just Mohammed's excuse to change his earlier mistakes. It is not 'gradual revelation', my friend. God said His Word would remain. And it does.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Your claim makes it clear that you're not trying to understand the meaning of the Quran. The words used are semitic, they can have many meanings in a non-semitic language. The wording of the verse gives 4 possible meanings and anyone knowledgable will explain to you that the most fitting IS the Quran abrogates past revelations. "Do not drink" and "Drinking is a sin" do not contradict each other.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 The Quran says 'WHEN YOU ARE drunk'. Do you call your Quran a lie, my friend? You cannot lie about what the Quran says when it is IN CLEAR BLACK AND WHITE TEXT. The QURAn says 'WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK...' which means it ACCEPTS as a foregone FACT that those in Islam WERE DRINKERS.

Surely, when Mohammed began to change his message, he made the comments about drinking harsher and harsher. He 'abrogated' and CHANGED his words and position.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Strangely, the Quran satates in Sura 2.136 that ALL the revelations are EQUAL and you must respect them as EQUAL. but here you say the Quran is GREATER. The QURAN is able to RE-WRITE and CHANGE and redefine the WORD OF ALLAH. But that is just nonsense, my friend.

IN FACT< The Quran CONTINUES in 5.48 that Allah MADE US DIFFERENT. So WHICH IS IT? Are we different AS Allah created us? Or did MEN corrupted 'Allah's Ummah'? LOL! Mohammed was SO confused when he wrote the Quran.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 You clearly misundertood 2:136. Yes, a Muslim believes all guidance from God is equally great. There is nothing more special about Abraham's guidance than Jesus's or Muhammad's guidance. And yes, the Quran is greater than the Bible. Why? Because the Bible is 100% the words of God. It has undisputedly been altered by wrongly-guided men, so much so that someone who had never met Jesus is given higher regard than Jesus's own desciples, who apparently recieved the all-truth.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 No. I do not misunderstand 2.136. I simply refuse to accept the lies created to explain away the contradictions in the Quran, my friend. I do not misunderstand 5.48 either. Nor 5.47 Nor ANY of the Ayat which attempt to ingratiate Mohammed into the People of Al-Kitab.

Mohammed's subterfuge is clear and easily seen, my friend. He was desperate to create credentials from the ONLY SOURCE of True Credentials - the Word of God, the Torah and Bible.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 That is the real problem, my friend. Mohammedans MUST claim the Word of God has been changed. If they do not, the Word of God completely refutes Mohammed claims.

Even YOUR assertion 'altered by wrongly-guided men' admits that your allah is a complete failure. Your allah could not bring one single message and have it preserved faithfully. He inspired NO FOLLOWERS in the Jews and Christians who were 'trustworthy' and 'dedicated'. Only the Arabs who followed Mohammed and Ali.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 So you're argument is Islam is false because the Bible got corrupted? Whatever.

At the end of the day, the Bible HAS been modified by misguided men and DOES contain many errors AND contradictions. The Bible being 100% the word of God is nonsense, only the people who blindly follow it will claim it's unaltered.

And FYI the Bible was never meant to be protected from alterations, specially since it wasn't the entire truth (Jesus's own words).

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 LOL! No, Islam is false because it is FALSE. That is as simple as it gets, my friend. ISLAM has no credentials, and no deity behind it.

If the ONLY way for the allah of ISLAM to claim HIS religion is true is to CURSE the Torah and Bible as 'corrupted', that shouts a clear and undeniable signal the allah of ISLAM is NOT the God of the Torah and Bible, Jehovah.

And when YOU have to claim gods message was 'never meant to be protected from alterations', you spit on the Quran.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 LOL! No, Islam is false because it is FALSE. That is as simple as it gets, my friend. ISLAM has no credentials, and no deity behind it.

If the ONLY way for the allah of ISLAM to claim HIS religion is true is to CURSE the Torah and Bible as 'corrupted', that shouts a clear and undeniable signal the allah of ISLAM is NOT the God of the Torah and Bible, Jehovah.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Unfortunately, your claims to not match the QURAN, my friend. The Quran MAKES NO CLAIMS about finding errors in the Torah and Bible. Instead Mohammed claimed TO CONFIRM WAS WAS WRITTEN therein.

And that is the very troubling problem Islam has, my friend. The author of the Quran tried to ingratiate himself to the Jews and Christians. But when they REJECTED HIM because they KNEW what the REAL Word of God said, his message about them changed. Mohammed became BITTER and ANGRY.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 On the contrary, it's a very well known doctrine in Islam that the original guidance of Jesus has becomes corrupted by men, and that is VERY proovable. You don't know your history. Who rejected Muhammad? The Meccans who exiled him, or the JEWISH Tribes of Yathrib who called for him to leader their tribes?

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Actually, Jesus said His Words would not pass away, and they have not. They remain and were CONFIRMED by Mohammed when he confirmed the scriptures he HELD IN HIS HANDS. But Islam must make the accusation because the Torah and Bible refute Mohammed's claims. (That was Mohammed's big mistake, endorsing the contents of a book he could not read, and did not know.) Claims of a single small group wanting Mohammed to lead them are irrelevant at best, and dubious at worst.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 The problem Islam has faced for 1400 years is that Christians DO KNOW their history, my friend. And they know their GOD. And when a counterfeit is presented and held up as 'the same Allah', we pretty much laugh and smirk because the false image Allah presents is not even close. Shams like 'Abrogation' and other frauds within Islam's message just convince us how false it is. And when those submitted to Mohammed claim God and Jesus lied, we really know who is making false claims.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 The strategy of ISLAM is clear, my friend. BEFORE any argument can be made to TRY and claim Mohammed is the 'Paraclete' you must FIRST attempt to create an argument that undermines the TRUE and CORRECT answer - that the HOLY SPIRIT is in fact the HOLY SPIRIT that Jesus meant when Jesus said 'THE HOLY SPIRIT'. To believers, the ANSWER is absolutely CLEAR, and was fulfilled WITHOUT QUESTION on the Day of PENTECOST, my friend. The COMFORTER is the HOLY SPIRIT. Forever SETTLED.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 You screwed up at reading my comments, is it really so hard to have a little humility for you?.. I didn't mention anything related to Islam. If you believe the Holy Ghost is the paraclete thats absolutely fine with me. If you don't want to debate/talk about your beliefs just say it, don't accuse me of silly games when i speak my mind. The points I made are totally fair and real points, if you want to follow a faith blindly dont accuse people for asking questions...

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 I'm more than willing to teach you WHAT and WHY Christians believe and HOW WE ARE SO SURE we know who the Comforter is. But there is nothing to DEBATE about settled Truth, my friend.

Jesus SAID the Comforter WAS ALREADY WITH the Disciples. Which damns Mohammed's claim. And which REFUTES Deedat's teaching that you are repeating (probably not even knowing it).

The fact is, my friend, ONLY the Holy Spirit as UN DERSTOOD and TAUGHT by Christianity, FITS ALL of Jesus's words.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 How do you define 'humility', my friend? Do you think 'humility' means for a Christian to deny the TRUTH and act as if they DO NOT KNOW the TRUTH? Is that strategy effective in trying to convince people they do not have the TRUTH?

I do not think it is arrogant to say 'I know 2+2=4'. It does, and I know it, and I know that I know. This is a fact.

I ALSO KNOW that the COMFORTER is the Holy Spirit of the TRINITY, and cannot be Mohammed. it is not arrogance to state facts, brother.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Wow, why do you keep talking about Muhammad, i've told you quite clearly i don't have Islam in mind when talking about the Paraclete. I mentioned nothing regarding Islam in the slightest in any of my prev comments, and you started replying to me like i was trying to decieve everyone when i told you i'm not talking about Islam. You were absolutely incorrect, i am NOT trying to sell islam. If you had humility you would have realised you were wrong in interpreting my replies.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Okay. Clearly you do not want to ADMIT the truth that you follow Mohammed. And you clearly do not want to admit your game of deception - PRETEND to be an 'honest and logical' pursuer of Truth - doubt the ACTUALLY truth that the Holy Spirit is the Comforter - then WOW! Gee! After carefully attempting to dismantle the Truth claim it MUST be Mohammed. WHO ELSE could it be???

I really don't allow Islamic Deception under my videos, my friend. So you can SAY YOU ARE MUSLIM or lie.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Where are you getting all this nonsense from? I DO try to follow Muhammad, and i love Islam, it's the most beutiful and complete guidance from God. I have no problems admitting or talking about my faith, you've made another mistake.. Perhaps you should realise that you actually don't know me? You jump to too many assumptions. If i claim the Holy Ghost can't be the Paraclete, doesnt mean i claim that Muhammad is. I have no problem if he's not.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 The funny thing, my friend, is that the 'argument' that the Holy Spirit is not the Holy Spirit was first popularized by Ahmed Deedat PRECISELY because he needed to attempt to refute the TRUE explanation of the Holy Spirit being the Holy Spirit - so that he could TRY TO CLAIM that Mohammed is the Holy Spirit.

Islam desperately needs to create a reference to Mohammed somewhere in the Torah and Bible, or else Mohammed lied about being mentioned n the Scriptures, like Sura 61.6

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Here's the problem with your approach, my friend. The New testament really only matters to Christians, because only Christians take it as a serious, complete text from God. People from Islam, yourself included, only approach the New Testament reading it to try and SUPPORT Islam.

UNLESS you can clearly say - you are dissatisfied with ISLAM because you can SEE it is not from the God of Abraham. You know ISLAM is false and there is no guidance in it from God.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 So what if i support Islam whilst reading the Bible, theres nothing wrong with me choosing what to believe, or do you want to forbid all Muslims from readnig the Bible? Most Christians i've met have encouraged me to do so.. And actually Trinity is very very out of place in Abrahamic Monotheism, it was violently established 450+ years after Jesus left us, and the origins can be found in ancient Pagganism. Moses's guidance and Trinity are a contradiction.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 I encourage those who follow Mohammed to read the Bible, my friend. It is the ONLY way you may hear and finally see the Word of God.

You are wrong about the Trinity, my friend. When Jesus said 'I have MANY things to tell you but you cannot bear them now' - ONE of these things was the Trinity. This is why the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, revealed it to later. I am actually making a video series on this topic currently, with 3 finished.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 I have VERY thoroughly studied and researched the whole issue of the Comforter, my friend. And addressing (disproving) Islam's jihad to claim the Comforter is Mohammed is covered in a video series I recently made, beginning with this one - watch?v=1sgjb-eEglQ

Watch it if you want to learn the TRUTH about just how WRONG the claims of Islam are, my friend.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 Sorry i've been meaning to watch ur vids but haven't had the time yet. Regarding Islam and the paraclete, i don't tihnk i've made clear where i stand with that.. as long as the following 1 statement is true of the Paraclete, Muhammad can never be the prophecised Paraclete of the Bible: The paraclete was promised to the desciples. And, he WAS promised to the desciples. My argument is that the Holy Ghost doesnt fit the identity either.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 I encourage you, my friend, to ACTUALLY READ the descriptions of the Comforter that Jesus gave. I have at least 9 videos on the topic if you wish to learn the Truth and show you honestly respect Almighty God, my friend.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 I've read the descriptions many times. I'm at work atm so ill look at your vids when i get back home, but still you can't dismiss my points. The word used for another meant another of the same kind, and there is only 1 holy ghost. If the holy ghost is the spirit of truth he could not have been with us before jesus left. Moses was an advocate, and Jesus told us he was too. Most of the description fits a human. Jesus said the paraclete would speak words, not inspire others to do so.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 All your points are irrelevant, my friend, because your logic is not faithful to the words Jesus spoke. Your words are only faithful to Mohammed and attempting to support his claim of being mentioned in the 'Injeel'. Jesus said the Comforter was TO THE DISCIPLES.

The FIRST problem you must admit is that by CLAIMING Mohammed is the Comforter, that the NEW TESTAMENT is the INJEEL. Sura 2.136 says you must respect the INJEEL EQUALLY with the Quran. Other Sura as well say this.

[FireSign27]

@Texas75023 I never claimed Muhammad was the paraclete, i didn't even mention him. I'm talking about Holy Ghost's identity vs the identity of the Paraclete as described by Jesus in the Bible. Islam has nothing to do with what i'm saying. Sura 2:136 talks about the guidance given to Jesus from God - which is not the Bible of today. The Bible was not protected from Satan's trickery, the authors of the Bible are many, some unknown. Simple question: Where is the Holy Ghost's all-truth?

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 Let me help you with your confusion, my friend. Jesus spoke of the 'Comforter' which in GREEK was the Word 'Parakleetos'. The Comforter IS THE Holy Spirit (Holy Pneuma) and is also called the Holy Ghost. If you wish to STOP being confused, I have produced probably a DOZEN video on the COMFORTER, refuting the claims of ISLAM that Mohammed is somehow this 'Comforter'. I show where Deedat LIES to confuse those in Islam. And I show ALL that you need to know to prove I'm right.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 You wrote - ANOTHER Paraclete would come, another of the same kind

EXACTLY! ANOTHER like JESUS - who was GOD. The HOLY SPIRIT is ALSO GOD, brother, and is PART of the TRINITY, just LIKE JESUS. In fact, if you READ what Jesus said, he state in John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

That only makes sense if JESUS and the HOLY SPIRIT are ONE, my friend.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 You wrote - So where is this All-Truth of the Paraclete?

The COMFORTER has revealed the TRUTH of God's 3-part nature, the TRINITY. And God has revealed ALL the Truths contained in the New Testament, including MANY future prophecies. EVEN some we see being fulfilled in the Earth TODAY. Soon we will see the Antichrist take his place leading the one-world religion and persecuting Jews and Christians. Beheading them. JUST AS the Holy Spirit foretold in Revelation.

[Texas75023]

@FireSign27 You wrote - So where is this All-Truth of the Paraclete?

The COMFORTER has revealed the TRUTH of God's 3 part nature, the TRINITY. And God has revealed ALL the Truths contained in the New Testament, including MANY future prophecies. EVEN some we see being fulfilled in the Earth TODAY. Soon we will see the Antichrist take his place leading the one-world religion and persecuting Jews and Christians. Beheading them. JUST AS the Holy Spirit foretold in Revelation.

[Texas75023]

@Texas75023 Condition 3 is completely damning to the claim Mohammed is the Comforter. 'BUT YOU KNOW HIM'. No one knew Mohammed before Mohammed was born. And yet Yeshuah CLEARLY states the Disciples already KNEW the Comforter.

[Texas75023]

Bless your heart, Brother. If you would only try to read John for understanding, it is all really clear.

Why does Jesus say "another Comforter" in 14:16? Because JESUS is the FIRST comforter. He was a source of comfort for the disciples.

14:18I will not leave you comfortless:

Here, Jesus states his departure would otherwise leave the disciples "Comfortless" if Jesus did not provide ANOTHER comforter. Can you understand that Jesus was a Comforter to them while he was with them?

[Dragonlady66]

Hi Fotf I think the point made re: the disiples is they were to be sent the comforter, DID MOHAMMAD COME TO THE DISIPLES??? Also "I will not leave you comfortless, I will pray the Father, and he shall send you another Comforter, who shall be with you, AND SHALL DWELL IN YOU FOREVER" Does Mohammad dwell in people?

[martineyles]

Hi, you wanted some clarifications, so I'll try to help out.

Firstly to tackle who Jesus was talking to in these passages in John. I think in this particular context it is clear that he was telling the disciples what was happening next, and addressing their concerns. I will explain why this should not rule out us also having the holy spirit in a moment, but before that, let's have a look at their concerns, and how these are addressed.

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[thefotfoundation]

Thanks for your PM which completes this message. I would say that the Paraclete mentioned is someone that can only come if Jesus (pbuh) goes and so cant refer to the Holy Ghost who was given whilst Jesus (pbuh) was here. If they are the same then it seems as if one of these verses are wrong. Peace, fot

[ehsanul]

good video. it's just that the meddling of men in the words of the bible has caused many contradictions.

[aisha0]

mashallah

[123onlyfacts]

p1a

After 2000 yrs of being born again, law is written on their heart and Holy Ghost in them they are still sinners. They have to have the best race and generations. Almost half of the population of the planet should be holy like the heavenly people

[123onlyfacts]

p1b

then coming down and he speaks and live inside of hem and he says what he hears from god so he can not be another one of those " gods incorps limited " type. if john chp 14 and chp 16 giving two opposite pictures and if you are one of so many that got confused remember God is not the author of confusion. 1corin 14:33 maybe the help of the whole truth (holy Quran) can help to clear that confusion.

[123onlyfacts]

P2

every prophet have to ask their followers to have in their heart and mind that not only believe the prophets before him that same god sent to mankind for guidance and follow their own prophets , but also believing for the next prophet as well. not only them that generation that jesus(pbuh) was present with them but also the generations after them up to the generation that would be present at the Mohamed(pbuh ) time

[123onlyfacts]

P3 the condition of receiving all blessings from god through all godly means come to them giving the strength ,joy,help, and inspiration .teaching to that generation and the ones follows them.

all their efforts won't be vanished and the truth of guidance continues

all their efforts won't be vanished and the truth of guidance continues even if the enemy killing all or corrupting their messages.

[123onlyfacts]

p1

the power above them and holy spirit inside them

and jesus had to ask the father again to send help that if the father decides.IF IT WAS HOLY GOST AND THEY FEEL HIM EVEN up till TODAY

Did that person ask himself with the help of holy in and holy out ,or holy all around .how all these sins /crimes and adultery committed after 2000 yrs?!prisons are overcrowded .ALL ARE SINNERS AGAIN! EVEN THE PASTORS /PRIESTS.

[123onlyfacts]

P2

Jesus could stay with them,he did not have to leave in order they receive the holy ghost because they already had it in them for every mission

SO IT HAD TO BE SOMETHING/SOMEBODY else .(ANOTHER) . jesus has to leave otherwise the helper sent by the request of jesus (pray again

after the human side DIED AND BECAME ALIVE in the heaven .being god again

[123onlyfacts]

P3 so why still praying to father like he used to do living on the earth.dosn't it indicating he was all along ,son of man

That he confessed clearly with the father 's help he can do nothing and he said exactly what he heard it because it was not his word it was word of the father he anh he only knows the time .and every time that is his will.the truth is He is nobody But Alllah .

[123onlyfacts]

p4

his will,His word,sending,lifting,giving,de­ciding,creating,knowing ,powerful,and everybody has to submit to his will .

Glenn ,Without knowing you testified that there is only one God and not the gods cop limited! As jesus said God in only one and He is greatel than all.almost close to his language he spoke:"la elah a elal lah ,and Allaho-akbar.

[naliakbar]

great video

[AsifEminem]

totally agree with everything you said. they can have it both ways ha ha! but i know they will always try to come with some explainations whether it makes sense or not.

and trust me, it doesnt make sense to me either...bleh

[TogetherForPeace]

Good video. I should be able to post a response in a day or so. peace