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  • Im an arch major and I take pride in our work load. Nobody on campus works as hard as an arch major and, to me, that shows the ultimate dedication.

  • This video glamourises life as a student architect - it's much worse than this - and the worse thing of all is that the course it totally and utterly subjective. Don't put your life in their hands. It's a course for the rich (it is guaranteed to make you poor) and students are routinely failed in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th years. I also know people who dated/paid qualified architects to do their drawings for them and passed with flying colours. They didn't find the course difficult at all.

  • Studying architecture for 5 years and getting in over 100,000 dollars debt was the biggest mistake I have ever made in my life.

  • ill be in that guy's shoes fall semester... YIKES!!

  • i'm a Communications major and i'm thinking of shifting to Architecture next semester since I find myself drawing houses and buildings more than writing essays and stuff. it's fun for me. i even make models when i have spare time. but the thing is, math is not really my strongest point. is architecture right for me?

  • @giqh17 It really depends what Architecture school you go to. Some really train you up on theory and history, and neglecting a bit of the practicalities--yet, some do really have a lot of maths from my experience. That being said, maths is only a small part, if you try and get past that, architecture should be easy.

  • @TheLlamalima thanks for the advice :) that really helped. besides, i've realized that the only reason i don't like math is because of an old terror math teacher i had before in elementary school. basically, all i have to do is conquer my fear since it had taken control of me for a very long time now.

  • @TheFisherLarry Hello there, Thank You so much for your useful advice :D to be honest I do enjoy thr drawing but when it comes to a difficult one I just feel like giving up so easily :( and yes I will definitely visit your blog :D Thanks again that's a good wee tips and take care :)

  • I'm 17 and looking to pursuit my dream as an architect also ... best I can tell to to do is practice drawing interiors exteriors of a building and get architectural degree and take it from there you'll be fine just dont stress over it

  • @drdka123 Hello :D I am 17 too and looking forwards to study an architecture course and kinda need some advice and that would be nice to talk to someone at my age and that ermm may I have your contact? Please? :D thanks in advance :D

  • @wspunkrocker Well, I am 21 and studying Architecture. You just need to enjoy drawing a lot. Different schools emphasize on different things, but I would say enjoying drawing is important. It is very visual. Other things you will learn for sure. A little bit of maths maybe, but it is quite easy compared to engineering. I am happy to give further advice. Do check out my blog where I update things we do in Architecture in Newcastle University.

    originofuniformity.blogspot.co­m

  • I go to Kent State. I have gone 3 consecutive nights without sleep.

  • Architect students NEVER SLEEP! 2 hours??? WTF!!!!! lazy Berkeley people! how can they sleep too much?

  • @KKR3017

    My TA in my architecture class is about 38. I myself am 17 years old. He had majored in something Elsevier cannot remember exactly what it was, but he's trying to succeed in architecture. Its never too late for anything. You just have to do what you love to do.

  • I'm a master graduate in business engineering, and have a few years working experience. However, i feel that i haven't listened to my inner voice, which tells me my real passion is architecture. I'm 30 now and considering a career change. You think it's too late for me to start in architecture? I am creative, I even won some drawing competitions in the past, and I am good in maths and science. Please advise.

  • @KKR3107

    I studied computer science for three years, but it just didn't feel right for me. It's my second year now studying architecture and I haven't regret a day that i swapped. I feel passionate for this and I know this is what I want to do in my life, and it's such a great feeling.

    I am now 23 and there are many people in our class who started at their thirties, one guy has graduated as a civil engineer and is now about 45. I think it's never too late to do what you really want.

  • @KKR3107 60 is too late =) 30 is a transition age from 20's to 30's

  • @KKR3107 i am Architect, i had a mother and son as partner, when i was studying in Argentina, and Elina she had more than 50 old years when she start.

    So good luck and follow ur dream, and forget to sleep

  • @KKR3107 if your really passionate about it, you wouldnt need to ask anybody for advice, youll just know. ps. go for it ;)

  • Haha! My life in the last one yr, and what its gonna be for another four yrs! It feels AMAZING knowing I aint the only one! :D

  • for some strange, fucked up reason, this video encourages me to become an architect even more

  • @Koca1ne Ahah me too Weird huh !

  • Ooooh, yeah....In Romania it's the same...:))

  • You can't let architecture and design be reserved for the drudgery of history lectures and the tear-inducing over-tired stress of realising you're only going to get half an hour or so sleep before going to uni to present. If you let it be a part of your fun, you can merge your rest time into your work time and get work done, enjoying it, even though your personal timetable says it's down-time for your brain and thus, be good for deadlines!

  • I'm not even doing real architecture, I'm doing BA in Interior Architecture but wow, talk about similarities! Also, nice music. I think what a lot of architectural students need to learn is to normalise architecture: when you've got a break (haha, I know, I know, but you know what I mean) go to a park or a green space, or somewhere warm, and find a building you like, even if it's just a part of it, and draw it in a sketchpad. Make design a part of your every day life. ps. Good choice of music!

  • So true T_T

  • I'm in my first year at one of the most challenging arch schools in the nation, and yes, sleep is a foreign idea...

  • im 100% agreed with this video.. this is what exactly happen to large no: of architecture students... 

  • btw, +1 on the girl's expression at 1:20

  • seriously people, dont take architecture to find a job, take architecture to discover yourself.

    in the future, as an architect, if you're passionate, professional & competitive, jobs will find you

  • im in my 3rd year and for the past 2 yrs i've been lamenting about all those workloads, projects, assignments, stay-ups, & asking myself why i chose architecture. then i was hooked with this marine aquariums & i built mine last summer. i enjoyed constructing the tanks, setting up the plumbing & designing the scape. i started to rediscover the reason why i chose architecture. at certain points you'll find architecture frustrating, but all you need to do is to step back & rediscover your passion.

  • thank you for the video :)

  • Hey! I've been considering architecture for some time now, but i still can't decide if it's right for me! I'm just about to start my second year at college.

    I enjoy design, and love to see things come out of my work - but I don't know what questions to ask or where to look.

    Any advice on best ways to get a feel for it? I really could do with knowing what it's like after studying, in the real world! (although i know ur not their yet)

    Help!

  • HAaa great vid I know you do a lot of projects but what kind of math is involve in becoming an architect :)

  • @KARISMAI1HQI not much for math, simply basic calculus & interpreting graphs. i'd recommend you to dig more on physics

  • LOL, The only thing you forgot is when you do get a few seconds of sleep, all you can do is lay there and reflect on what you did, what you could of done, what you will do to make it better next time.... Good Video...

  • What is this sleep thing that you are talking about? Architecture students never sleep--there are always more projects to be done! =O

  • @TheLlamalima I agree with you, and was about to point out the same.

  • @MsPinkan3 That's me now. Didn't sleep much at all last night. :D

  • @TheLlamalima I am an architecture student. I sleep. If I don't sleep I can't work. I have some fellow students who do not sleep. I get better grades than them with a happy 6 hours of sleep every night and maybe an all-nighter of work only before a deadline.

    I have to admit it is a lot of work, but sleep is really important for my sanity.

  • @TheFisherLarry I'm a third year architecture student, and I've never done an all-nighter or slept less than 5 hours in a night. I still have my A-average. Sleep is the fuel for creativity in my mind. I was just kidding, all my friends do all-nighters though, I couldn't do it. :P

  • In my first year of architecture, it's death and it's only going to get worse

    When you're lazy like me it's really frustrating

  • too true, i cant remember the last time i went to bed before 3 or the last time i had more than 4/5 hours of sleep on a weeknight. have hardly seen my family and non-architecture friends over the past few weeks.and yet the funny thing is, i love it, and cant imagine myself in another course :)

  • @1212surface I used to be a business major ( main reason why I'll have a minor in econ, and real estate) I switched out of it because I felt it was too easy, because really you do not need a degree to start a business, and most successful entrepreneurs barely ever do well in school or even have a degree in it.. It's necessary to know, but it's something better learned through practice.

  • Great narrative, absolutely spot on.

  • @missedagain if i ever had to design your apartment or house, i would make it so that you could bump your head on something every 20 cm! irritating fella!

  • alright so my final review was today, I am currently a Design I student at the U of Arkansas and the critics obliterated me and my proposals. I did what you said, I tried to sell it to them but it wasn't enough. For me it looks like I will have to take it again. Do you have any advice on how to better understand a spatial operation?

  • @1212surface You can love to design things. Make small things for your family, and friends, a small renovation. You don't have to be a superarchitect, you understand that already since you talk about fun. The more practice you have, the better you are at it, the more control you have over your end products. Innovation needs its own time.

    The things you talk about are important, but school is the best place to develop these skills.

  • @1212surface Im working on a minor in economics, i understand, I've learned past basic micro and macro. My point is that you develop skill, craft and technique through practice, this field is so broad and there's always something new to learn about, and just like anything else that requires experience. this video only shows someone working through final work for a review.. you don't really know the backstory

  • @1212surface it's not about economic terms. Do you think a professional basketball player considers, "to what point should i continue playing basketball so i am efficient using my time?" NO they play and play and sweat sweat because they love what they're doing. Architecture, art, humanities, sports are about strain and love. not about econ 101

  • Just came back from a full-day weekend drill in our presentation for our Urbanism class, and tomorrow will be the same. Awesome video.

  • like it espaicelly the printer sound

    dude when wait for the printer to print my heart feel like jumping out !!

    hate that sound

    nice video dude

  • try engineering. it's much more useful, and you don't talk about your feelings nearly as often.

  • @killersvictim8 Or chose Architecture and Engineering like I do.

  • check out " the 10 rules of working on an architectural project" .... !! click on our channel ! watch all 3 parts!

  • 50% of the architectural offices in the US have closed in the last 2 years. Go ahead, Jump in!

  • @cgreider why would you say that?? you're so mean... ):

  • LMAO at 1:21

  • here in philippines......architecture students enter at the age of 15 to 16 ..........too young and not yet prepared,.....that's why it's too difficult for us to adapt in the situation

  • If I want to be an architect do I still get to party hard in college?

  • @jakethejou no, don't even think about partying

  • @jakethejou hhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha­haha no 

  • oh get over it you pussies!!!!

  • im a senior in hs and i want to take architecture in uc berkeley but im scared that the work will be to much for me. is it really that bad? will i be able to work a full time job? part time job? and if i do succeed is it easy to find a job?

  • @eddyyea Architecture is a difficult major, but what isn't? Everything requires a lot of work. Architecture is indeed notorious for lots of late nights, but it's pretty darn fun. I really can't see myself enjoying spending as much time as I spend doing architecture on writing papers. I know plenty of people who feel the opposite, and for them other paths make far more sense. You can work part time while taking classes. It'll be rough, but it is possible. I'd advise against full-time, however.

  • @toolfanpete thanks. Do you know if it is difficult to find a job after you finish?

  • @eddyyea Unfortunately, I'm still figuring that part out right now. I'm about to graduate in Spring and I'm currently in the process of looking for work. I've had internships every summer, but as far as permanent work goes, it's out there, I just haven't found it for myself yet. My friends who already graduated have managed to find work in the field. By the time you graduate, jobs will be far more plentiful as my year is still riding the return from the market crash. Good luck! Give arch a go!

  • @toolfanpete Yeah most likely there will be more jobs. I think i will give it a shot. Thanks you've really inspired me!

  • @toolfanpete Yeah most likely there will be more jobs. I think i will give it a shot. Thanks you've really inspired me! Oh and one more question I heard Berkeley only offers a Masters in arch is that true?

  • @eddyyea I've heard the same, that Berkeley's bachelor's degree in Architecture is not accredited so you have to get a Master's.

  • @toolfanpete from my own experience i would rather say dat....the stess n the pressure dat u get....is quite unberable!

  • @eddyyerunnn ...dude runn ...run away no its 02:35 am here in South Africa now i have a crit/review exam at 08:30 am today [friday] and i have at it all week for today

  • @ missedagain

    You're making such an effort to prove that other professions imply working harder than architecture.

    Well, why are you even comparing architecture to other professions in the first place?! Each person does what he/she knows best and has skills for. There's a reason why architecture school lasts so many years. Also,there's a reason why all architecture students complain about their lack of sleep and hard stressful work...we're not all insane,are we?

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  • Plus, none of the professions you mentioned implies the act of creation. Yeah, we're like God, but actually real. Huge responsibility! There are many stressful and heavy working jobs, I respect each professional in every field because if society wouldn't need them, their jobs wouldn't exist either. And they're all so different, that I couldn't possibly claim to know what they're all about since I'm only practicing one single profession. So stop being a smart ass, you lack in reasoning skills.

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  • theres just something wierd about the pic at 0:14, im actually scared of taking up architecture now : (

  • engineers too..

  • WHY??!!!!! why do we have this kind of life!!! can we even call it "life"????

    but anyway, and I don't even know why... I <3 it

  • Folio in 29 hours! sleep in the last 3 days.....3 hours.

  • Foio in 29 hours! sleep in the last 3 days.....3 hours.

  • im on the presute of becoming an architect in canada any pointers?

  • makes me smile, cause its so true. thx for sharing

  • this video is depressing but true

  • totally agree... I am working on my thesis and I have to present it in front of an international jury... Thanks for the video, it's inspiring!

  • i hate presenting a project, why cant we just put it on the table and there it is... if it is built, the citizens won't have anybody telling them why they should like it either.

  • this school looks just like mine actually the whole university looks like that, it is often criticized by non architecture student for its brutalist aesthetic.

  • engineers are far more skilled, and hardworking than architects.

  • @tubestick00 you're fucking hilarious.

  • @TheFeelin89 ha. i thight somebody would like that. it was indeed humour

  • Doctors, Lawyers, Architects, Engineers, CEO's all deal with stress and pressure.Any career worth having is a career that carries along these burdens.If you wanted a 9 to 5 and hang out and party with friends go work at burger king(no offense) where you can do that.I was a architect student who quit i felt that stress and gave up.I plan to go back and continue, success is earned not given.if you like architecture and willing to put in the work to earn that title than persue it

  • I'm starting in Dublin this September, hoping my love for the field will outweigh the negative. My friends brother had a nervous breakdown in his third year. Its a very tough course.

  • @missedagain Architects may be pretentious, but the field certainly isn't. If you wish to criticize design eduction, that's different, but unless you've personally had to spec out a new drain or hvac system design for contractors, or had to remodel a historic site from 1850 so that it is ADA compliant yet is true to period documentation, you have no idea what you're talking about. Architecture bears a very heavy workload and to suggest otherwise is simply uneducated. What is your own profession?

  • @toolfanpete Without going into details i'll say that half of my (extended as well) family are in the medical profession, being either doctors or surgeons, and the remaining half are high level engineers (doing a hell of a lot more spec work than you just mentioned), lawyers (again, a hell of a lot more attention to detail than you just mentioned), or financial specialists (a metric shit ton of details to analyze). I'm sorry, but nothing you've mentioned is even remotely impressive.

  • @missedagain you're clearly just a bitch

  • @ghoststylee Hahah, look at how shitty your life is. Anyone trying to put architecture on par with medicine, advanced engineering, or financial analysis is insane.

  • @missedagain i didnt say anything about those professions you just mentioned. Just read your post and see how laughable it is. Noone cares about your family or how they are all the shit as you say, you're clearly just a cunt who needs some dick

  • @ghoststylee Keep hatin, it won't make us any less successful

  • @missedagain haha k im sure you are a really smart engineer X)

  • @missedagain you have no idea what you are talking about.

  • @toolfanpete Investment Finance. It's nice seeing a bunch of arts students stroking their egos because those 45k/year jobs aint doin it for ya.

  • @toolfanpete preschool teacher probably. haha XD

  • @missedagain You know nothing if you think that architecture doesn't have one of the heaviest workloads. We are the ONLY major at my school where we stay up for 5 days at a time and pull all-nighters every night on projects. EVERY NIGHT. I want to fucking sleep but I can't because if i do, I won't finish. My roommate is a medical student and he thinks i'm insane for doing what I do and my parents think i'm unhealthy because i never sleep. You can't speak unless you know. Now what do you do?!?!?

  • @missedagain are you an architecture student? bet not, or else you would know that you basically have no life and even things like sleeping or going to the toilet seem like a waste of time. what could be heavier than that?

  • @missedagain are you an architect? because if not....

  • @missedagain dont pretend u know..you dont know anything about the field until you've studied it...it's called architorture!!!

  • i have been studying architecture for 4 years and i m planning to quit now .... too much of pressure and stress.. and is getting more and more.... my weight down from 140 pounds to 110 pounds within 4 months..

  • sounds like a shitty life... im up to become an architecture student too. anyway nice video man

  • the birdsss!!!

  • Thank you very much for this! I missed my Art Seminar lecture yesterday and we had a guest speaker about students in architecture and this helps me out so much with the weekly answers! Thanks a bunch! :)

  • yeah like not having enough sleep just to make and pass your own invention right on time

  • Amazing how similar the architectural student's life is universally.

  • This is incredibly accurate. And I think that this should be a PSA for all family and friends of arch students.

  • yaaa...that's truly he life of an architecture student. i am also an architecture student in russia, in my fourth year now...n i know exactly what u mean...toolfanpete, great video n insight on our lifestyle!!!...oe of my lecturers once told us that architecture is more than just a profession, it's a lifestyle!!!

  • A lot of people start doing these studys because they have idealized what it will be...Creating , what an amazing thing! Complete studys that touch every subject + an artistic side , what could be better? But now, I'm going to be very down to earth and tell the true about being an architecture student, it's shit! You have to be prepared to b days and days, without almost seeing anyone, working like a dog.

  • how long does it take to become an architect? and as practice and as a student do you have to build models and present them ?

  • Awesome slideshow. It really makes me look forward to college. I applied to Berkeley for architecture and I've also been accepted to Cal Poly for architecture. I'm not sure which I'd pick if I were accept to both of them. I've heard all about the crazy successive all nighters of work that architecture students pull off, but I think I'm up for it.

  • Very nice I am working on a second model as I type this and im exhausted :(

  • Thank you and good luck!

  • Very well thought out, Everything you mentioned is true 100%, I wish other people specifically "friends" could understand what Archi students go through

  • that is very nice video :)

    Do u work with wood to make your models ?

    we (in Jordan) use carton to make models.

  • We use all sorts of materials here such as chip board, museum board, and plaster. Wood however is a popular choice.

  • is it worth it?

  • Completely. If you want to become an architect, it is very worth the struggle.

  • Exactly the same thing here in Dubai :(

  • WOW This is the best video about architecture students it's a msg to all of us to take rest we don't have time to breath :( :S from Projects to Exams to researches WE ARE SOOOO DEAD we need a break :) Best wishes to all

  • Studying architecture was the greatest mistake in my life. It's comparable with jumping from the Eiffel Tower. Your life ends.

    My most exciting moments in my life now are when I go outside for purchasing food or when I stand up from all the plan bullshit and start going around in my room.

    If you wanna give up your life and everything which makes it so precious, social life, private life, inner peace, then just go ahead and start studying architecture.

  • I'm glad to see a person that think like me. It was my biggest mistaken either! But the question is, why did you continue if you were so unhappy?? i'm asking that because I continued and I can't understand why.

  • @ineshes:

    The answer is simple: It's perspective.

    If I wasn't a sucessful architecture student, I would be a nothing, and that in the age of 25. I want to start a family in the future and I have the hope to earn that much money with the job one day that I can live from the intrests. How about you ?

  • This was a great vid. Your studio space is amazing! I go to USC architecture, our studio spaces are alright, but it doesn't beat the view you guys got. Keep it up!

  • Landscape architecture student here, nearly the same story...with a little more sanity and knowing I'll be making $50k within a few years of graduation. BTW, great video...true story. Now the sound of a plotter is stuck in my head lol

  • Brilliant video and soo true. Think this applies to all architecture schools across the globe. I went to two in the UK and visited ones in Paris and Johannesburg and its the same.

  • it's just the way it is everwhere...

  • hey,

    same at the technical university of munich. although i'm studying for 3 weeks now i don't sleep much and am obsessed with my projects... i doubt that i can do this forever. maybe i chose the wrong subject. especially in regard of the average income of architects in germany. (25000 a year)--> are the incomes of architects that low in every country or only in europe???

  • It's the same everywhere. Architects just don't make a whole lot. It's one of those things that you do because you love it.

  • @toolfanpete

    whene u decide to be an architecture

    first , u will have a 5 years break from friendships and social life

  • no you are not I hope so .. don't fall down so fast keep going we all think the same way when we find something hard or get tired but I think we have to keep going ...about Incomes I don't really know but I guess it depends on How good you are in your work so good Architects get very good Incomes it depends on how much you give to your work and your Enthusiasm about the whole thing

    Good luck anyway

  • hey folks. Just wanna state something, i am a qualified Architectural Technologist, and am currently doing a masters in Architecture... and all i can say is, with regards to college, the technologists have a much heavier workload.... its actually a form of abuse to be honest :P anyway, accurate video of day-to-day life as an architecture student, good job

  • Nicely done! I've been an architecture student for all of 6 weeks in Cork Ireland, long road ahead I'd say...

  • Keep at it lad! Very well worth the long journey

  • this is so true but theres more to it,

    I hate my fucking life now.... i dont want my life to be like this forever... but i cant complain :(

  • All true

  • Chicago UIC same

  • 100% true

  • ...oh but it is oh so worth it. Now I'm salaried with full benefits designing storefront mullions! for a chain store.

  • how much you can make a year

  • Architecture Student at FIU lol story of my life i swear

  • this is so not true, architecture is fun! you can do anything you want. kill sometime at the mall for hours and hours. sleep at a very comfy bed...playing lots and lots of video games.........................­.........NOT!

  • OMG...same here as Singapore Poly students....i agree with you man...

  • ohhhh so trueeee!!!

    a big hello and goodluck from kent!

  • Architorture

  • @AnyhowSia LOL'd XD

  • Haha...same experience for SG archi students :/ It's like every architect student is like felling each others pain.

  • I feel ur pain bro hahahs

  • This is SO TRUE in all aspects. I am an architecture student from Melbourne uni... and this sooooo relates to my uni life.

  • I am about to begin my 4th of 5 years at architecture school in Philly. I viewed this video today, and I remember coming across this video a long time ago, too. The more I watch this video, and the further I have progressed and matured in architecture school, I have developed greater appreciation for it. I can totally relate to this guy.

    Thank you for this short and sweet video

  • great little short film!

  • I am an architecture student from India,I had many sleepless nights too!

  • I so totally agree with you on this mate... When your studying architecture ... you will loose track of time and your main goal is to complete your project ! notting else matters at that point , but your work! its tough mate... Life of an architecture student !!

  • I'm traveling across the world to commence Architectural studies in Australia 6 months from now, it will cost me everything that I and my family owns. This (very powerful) video somehow made me hesitant to follow my outmost treasured dream. :S

  • @414gbg Me too! :(

  • @NazTheGreat I have now commenced my studies, and it is REALLY hard. I spent my entire first year at school, 12-14 hours a day. I got really good results, but it costed me so much life quality, due to the stress and most of all because of the sleepings problems that comes with obsessing about your project.

  • @NazTheGreat 30% of my peers have quit already after the first year, but I am going on forward, but I've been told, even by my tutors to work less on my projects orelse I face the inevitable: adrenal fatigue.

  • @NazTheGreat 30% of my peers have quit already after the first year, but I am going on forward, but I've been told, even by my tutors to work less on my projects orelse I face the inevitable: adrenal fatigue.And so I will,I now spend max 10 hours a day at school. I've even booked myself into EXTRA,unrelated classes in the evenings just so that I am forced to move out from the studio. It works wonder for the stress to be able actually force yourself to switch from your project to other activities

  • @414gbg Don't let some video stop you! DO YOUR BEST. Goddammit I don't stress out how important it is that you SET YOUR GOALS and DO YOUR BEST. It WILL GO TO WASTE if all you do is complain about how tired you are and how shitty architecture is. Just 'look forward to your next project'.

  • @halocharmer94 Greetings my friend! :) Now I am currently well in to my 2'nd year of studies. It has been really heavy and hard so far, but still comprehendable since I am a workaholic. Thank you for your warm words still. Take care my friend!

  • You hear these pricks talking about 'going through the struggle' - living in a rough area, selling drugs etc. BULLSHIT try becoming a fully qualified architect then you know what 'the struggle' really is about.

  • Miami: FIU ! -Yup, what you just saw is What The World of architectural is all about, if you dont like it - Dont go for it. I love waking in the mornings. "Not wanting to wait anylonger to put down ideas that did not let me go to sleep in the first place."

  • all i can see is me finishing up and becoming an architect!!!!....its really hard but the hardwork pass off!

  • another thing i find is that most architecture students just aren't very talented at all.. i know i feel bad thinking that but kind of true.. and it's more common that the less talented people play the artsy fartsy card more than the actually talented people lol. but there's always exceptions.

  • devious222, you say "most architecture students just aren't very talented at all", then you say they suddenly become super pretentious and think they are above other people. Sounds like you, yourself, has become one of those that think they are better than all the other people.

  • my bad. upon rereading what I wrote I was probably being excessively harsh.. replace "most" with "some." but even then I'm sure you can find some kind of unique talent that even the 'untalented' possess. but yeah, haha I'm probably one of those pretentious people too.. oh how cynical I have become. curse you architecture school!

  • as an architecture student of 6 years i know that architecture students love to complain. the fact is that most of them actually only work about 2-3 solid hours in a day and just goof around in the studio. I did. it's fun. but it get's shitty when some students all of a sudden become super pretentious and think they are above other people.. i'd say that happens around the 2nd to 3rd year phase... start dressing all hip and pretentious.. but most grow out of it and get jaded by 4th year