They need a new assault rifle badly! That one is far too heavy! Especially in that immense heat having to carry it around with all of your other equipment. Taliban are much more maneuverable since they have the AK47 and very few equipment, we need to match that because honestly that LSW assault rifle weighs a ton!
@007Influence I am and do know it. Its a light support weapon, hence the longer barrel and bipod. The SA80 is an assault rifle the LSW isn't. Its just part of the SA80 range of weapons.
@007Influence well i do, the sa80 does its job reasonably well at the moment, especially with the newly designed foregrip and llm. Its just getting a bit dated now, and the working parts in the trigger housing are a bit too fiddley, the ak's have a much more simple design, hence its reputation about it being a reliable weapon. But as an 18 year old foreign diplomat who supposedly does something to do with foreign embassy defence or some bullshit and has 22 SAS as their company you would know
serious question, how many tours have they done in afghanistan and are they out there often? cause im in the process of joining now but i want to be out ther alot
Keep safe boys! Good to see our flag flying high out there, you make us all proud! ill be joining the welsh guards after my phase 1 training in may, so ill see you all soon.
@imis786 Fuck up you ungrateful little prick. I can't explain how pissed off you've just made me. These people risk their lives day-in day-out for you, and all you do is come out with this idiotic comment. I swear if I knew who you were I'd kick seven shades of shit out of you then all the way abck in again.
is this the light infantry? cause i went to the recruitment place yesterday and the guy was saying there was the light infantry who were mainly on foot, paras who drop in by helicopter and the armoured? and i want to know whats the best one to join (i dont know all the correct names so sorry if im wrong on those)
@woody4114 yeh sorry, that wasn't very clear of me, lol! I was trying to say: go for a safe job (like Asda)...Seriously though; one of my family is in the Welsh Guards & he absolutely loves it; so good luck to you, whatever you choose :)
@bigjoe454 The Welsh Gaurds are Seniors to the royal welsh, My dad is in the Welsh gaurds and when i even quired joining the royal welsh he said no chance. so im Joining the Royal SIgnals :L
On every army tribute I go on to, people always write comments, This would be welcome if it related to any appreciation and thanks to our boys. But no, people always have to write childish comments thinking they know how to solve the worlds geopolitical instabilities from their bedrooms. So lets be mature and steadfast in the memory of our fallen boys and girls, and pay homeage to their unshakeable sacrafice.
@archdeaconj Upset as I called u a conspiracy theorist i see. Yes Im not that that stupid as to believe what come out of training manuals or even off the news. Is this whole war a farce.. maybe maybe not. Theres good and bad to everything but you conspiracy theorist take shit to the "unbelievable" and "ridiculous"
@MarineInfantry00 This 'conspiracy theorist' nonsense is nothing but a means to avoid addressing the issue. It's like calling someone an anti-Semite when they criticise Israel, to draw attention away from the criticism. It's the resort of those unable or unwilling to challenge the argument itself, either because they haven't the wit or because it can't be challenged.
@MarineInfantry00 Not up to the challenge? Why am I not surprised? You are just full of rage and attitude, no actual thoughts at all, nothing inside your head except abuse and foul language. Whether what I say is a 'conspiracy theory' or not, or whether some other label can be put on it, is irrelevant. What matters is whether it's true or not. And truth, I have to tell you - brace yourself for this - is not to be found in the US Military Manual of Bleedin' Bullshit.
for all these wee twats that thnik they know how to win the war in afghanistan within a week, get your self down to the recruitment office and join up, im sure the majors and generals will be pleased to hear your plan of "winning" the war. Civvies, bunch of fucking dick heads in my eyes worse than terry taleban him self.
@archdeaconj Ever been to a recruiting office? Thought not.
I was given a frank account of what it's like out there from my recruiter. As much as it hurts your naive 'lefter than Lenin' mindset to actually think that the Army is not inherintly evil; it isn't.
Why would the army want people who aren't prepared to deal with what they could encounter there?
Let me guess, it's captilalisms fault? I suppose those insurgents are just defending their peaceful, tolerant society from the big bad Brits
@Woozie52 Oh dear, oh dear. You always get 'em on Youtube. What does it matter if I'm a leftie, a Leninist, an anti-capitalist, a peacenik or a pirate with a wooden leg? Arguments stand or fall on their own merit. 'Why would the army want people...?' Why are you asking me questions? If you have a point, state it. By your tone, I take it that you disagree with something I've said, but you haven't even said what. I sometimes wonder, I really do.
@archdeaconj Rhetorical, if you can't work that out you either have a bit more growing up to do (try again when you're 15) or you're being deliberatly difficult to try and create a facade of being intellectually superior.
I love how you have nothing better to do than start loads of arguments on youtube with as many people as possible. Life in your mums basement dull is it?
@Woozie52 Rhetoric? Ad hominem attack, don't you mean! So you've been along to your recruiting office and been given the usual bullshit. Did I say you haven't? You say the army isn't inherently evil? Did I say it was? Then you ask me a daft question and attribute to me a stupid answer. For goodness sake, man, what point(s) of disagreement do you have with what I said - and why? I can't be arsed deciphering your saloon-bar 'rhetoric'.
@Woozie52 Have I been to the recruiting office? Er...no. Have you accessed primary sources? Have you read reports of investigative journalists not embedded with the military, aid workers, weapons inspectors, whistle blowers? Have you...? Now can we stop this silly game. The validity of an argument depends on many things, but going to the recruiting office is not one of them. In any war, each side has recruiting officers who spout what those higher up the chain of command have told them.
@Woozie52 Getting rattled, are we? Well I find it very hard to believe that someone who comes out with a statement like, 'I was given a frank account...from my recruiter' has probed very deep. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Well, you've made lots of abusive remarks, but still said nothing of substance. I ask you again: why do you think we're so determined to keep this puppet government in power in Afghanistan? You haven't a clue, have you?
@Woozie52 Don't be silly, how can anyone believe what they WANT to believe. If someone said they would give you $10 m dollars if you believed the earth was flat, could you? Not just say it but really believe it? Of course you couldn't. We all believe what we believe as a result of evidence, reason etc. You know very well, too, that I haven't made anything up. If you really thought that you would SAY what you think I've made up. Instead, you just make these vague, cowardly accusations.
@Woozie52 Well, we have had a lengthy exchange. Yet while you have levelled all manner of false accusations at me - even bringing out that old chestnut 'conspiracy theorist' – you have yet to say anything which in any way challenges what I said. This is hardly surprising. For what I said is only what some of the finest independent researchers and investigative journalists have said. They make excellent company in the dock.
@UNREAL2012 you dont have to be welsh at all when i was in training in catterick in 2007 there were loads of people from other countrys joining the welsh guards :)
When the acts of union was created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of England which included Wales at the time and the kingdom of Scotland thats why England and Scotland are only represented (wales is not a kingdom), then the kingdom of Ireland joined and then broke off leaving northern Ireland but the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same.
@harrifer3000 Any imbecile can make silly put-down remarks like these, but unless you say why you disagree with me, it's of no interest to anyone. It's also cowardly. C'mon, I challenge you to a proper civilized debate.
You think everyone is brainwashed and needs to wake up? No, you're just another elitist, leftist knob-end who thinks they're better than everyone else. Luckily you might eventually wake up before you're 25 and look back on your 'youtube jerk' days and cringe, realising how little you knew about anything. Let's hope.
Meanwhile, the Welsh Guards are making sure the Taleban don't take over and turn Afghanistan back into what it was before 2001, a theocratic dictatorship. No doubt like the rest of the left you have a short memory about this, possibly also due to your not having been alive/watching the news at the time.
@harrifer3000 What's it matter if I'm a leftist, elitist, 14-year-old, or pirate with a wooden leg? (OK, if you're that curious, I disregarded media bullshit, did own research, accessed primary sources, dug deep then, shocked by what I found, marched and campaigned against the invasion pity you didn't do the same!) The notion that we're over there to help the Afghan people is ludicrous. There has NEVER in the whole history of warfare been a war fought for altruistic purposes.
@harrifer3000 Hamid Karzai, puppet president of Afghanistan, used to be advisor to the US oil giant UNOCAL. He tried to negotiate an oil pipeline deal for them with the Taliban government, but they signed with Argentine's BRIDAS. After unsuccessfully attempting to block the deal, the US invaded and manoeuvred Karzai into power. Cant believe it? Check it out! It's in the public domain, though you won't find any mention of it in the media - or in US military handbooks, ha ha.
@archdeaconj When did I ever say that the war in Afghanistan was started to help the Afghan people? I said you were a knob-end, get it right. My main basis for this argument is that you're a condescending little shit.
Anyway, ISAF can't pull out now, or the Taleban would take over again. No matter what your politics you can't be a fan of those bastards having power, you wouldn't be allowed to spread your socialist shite in their country.
@harrifer3000 Ha ha, 'knob-end' and 'condescending little shit' aren't arguments. Well, you may not have explicitly said the war was being fought to help the Afghan people, but you can't deny you implied it. Glad you're rethinking that one! No, I'm no fan of the Taliban (unlike the US who treated them as best buddies before the pipeline deal fell through). No alcohol, women in burqas...what a life! But the US isn't there to keep a repressive regime out of power (there you go again)!
@harrifer3000 I sometimes wonder, I really do. Well, your reply at least allows me to gauge your intellectual level, which is actually quite close to my initial estimate viz. it's average - average for those whose primary source of education is the US Military Manuel of Bleedin' Bullshit. Thx.
@harrifer3000 So why are we in Afghanistan? THINK. 'We’re in Afghanistan because...because you’re a fat-arsed faggot.' Er, no. Try this one. Why were we told there were WMD in Iraq? 'Because...because you’re a wanker.' No, it was a manufactured threat to gain consent of the masses for a nefarious foreign venture. Why do you use abuse in place of argument? 'Because I don’t have an argument.' CORRECT. Well done.
@Woozie52 No, it's not hard and I agree. We're in Afghanistan to ensure that the Taliban, who were in government up until the US invasion, do not overthrow Karzai, whom the US manoeuvred into power. The question which divides us (presumably) is WHY. Why does it matter to us who is in power? It isn't too hard to find an answer to that question, either, if you suspend judgment on the official pretext for the war and take the trouble to ferret out independent, primary sources of information.
@archdeaconj You mean "only believe what you want to believe and ignore anything which might not match my idea"
The Tablian executed a seven year old boy recently accused of spying. If you ask me that's enough reason needed to wipe them off the face of the Earth.
@Woozie52 I see that you didn't like the tone of my reply. Well, I was merely responding in kind - what did you expect me to do, turn the other cheek? Now let's have a little mutual respect, shall we. Why do you think it's so important that Karzai is not overthrown by the Taliban?
@Woozie52 I'm no fan of the Taliban either. No alcohol, women in burqas, ...what a life! But keeping a regime out of power because it's repressive is not why we're over there, it cannot be. The US has been best buddies with some frightful tyrants over the years e.g. that character in Uzbekistan (whose name I forget) who used to boil his opponents live. There has NEVER in the history of warfare been a war fought for altruistic purposes, only for self-interest. So WHY?
@Woozie52 Let's stick to the issue, shall we (and not start getting personal). WHY do you think it is in US interest to keep Karzai in power and Taliban out of power? I don't want to know what someone else thinks, so I'm not Googling anything. There are lots of YouTube vids, books, academic papers, articles by independent investigative journalists etc. that I could suggest for your enlightenment.
@Woozie52 Well I did, as it happens, google in ‘Youtube UN Afghanistan’. Two vids came up. One discussed the fraudulent Afghan elections that returned Karzai to power. Interesting, but how is that relevant to the issue under discussion? It’s not, is it. Ditto the other one. Then I googled in just ‘UN Afghanistan’ and ‘the first few links’ were also irrelevant. What a waste of time!
@Woozie52 You must have just read the first few words of my last posting and not bothered to read the rest! I said, 'THEN I googled in just UN AFGHANISTAN.' The first link that comes up is about drug use; the second is a news centre; the third is about population. All irrelevant. Anyway this is a daft way to conduct a debate.
It's the same here, and I'm rejoining...been a year and a month so far, possibly another 2-3 at least...but I was made to wait, probably faster for a first time joiner, don't know why though.
stupid reason mate. basically, i'm the same as you. we're being put on hold because we're 'not top priority'. Erm, why not? We're pretty much trained, it'll cost less to put us through some sort of 'refresher' course than it will to train a fresh crow.
@randomchris1988 thats exactly what I was thinking it's crap, I might change job role to something they need see how that works out, because anything is better than my shift work job now(that ends as its contract and then im unemployed again) and if i can't in 6 months im might move to other side of world and then all chances are out won't find a job in SA that would pay to get on a plane back:(...
@BRM00RE Well since my last comment, I've been to Pirbright and done to Pirbright and done selection. There are intake dates opening up in Sept and Oct at CIC. Give it a chance before you change trade matey!
@randomchris1988 lol changed 18 months ago bit late, phoned today to ask if it'd be any quicker to change to a role they need and basically no, I'd have to go back into the queue all over again but last update was today it's sat on an officers desk so to start over would be crap just gonna leave it Royal Armoured...they aint TOO bad...hahaha inf to tankie my cpl from training would love that, he doesn't like them...just a bit lol
@FlytheUnionJack You find it hard to believe your country would lie to you and wage war to gain control of resources. But nothing ever changes. Ordinary decent folks will not ordinarily kill fellow human beings for ignoble purposes. They have always had to be lied to. It’s been the same throughout history. Even the Greeks had to be told they were fighting for Helen and not a strategic position on a trade route.
@FlytheUnionJack The US is in Afghanistan, as it was in Iraq, to establish a client state subservient to the requirements of US realpolitik in an oil-rich Middle East. Fighting the Taliban so they don't attack us on our streets is a false casus belli. The Taliban have never attacked anyone except those who invade their country.
@yellowbirdyellowbill arent you part of the Untied Kingdom?, your comment is kinda like cossacks getting heated if i called them russians,yes u have your own traditions and so forth, but for simplicty sake, i like the UK and all the countries that it makes up
no offense but its not that simple. Wales is a fiercely patriotic country and the Union Jack doesnt even represent it. The Welsh guards fly the Welsh Dragon EVERYWHERE they go and at their barracks when in London they fly flags out of their windows. Its this fierce loyalty to Wales that makes the Welsh such great fighters. Traditions have nothing to do with it, its a question of birthright. Like calling a Canadian American for instance because they sound the same.
@yellowbirdyellowbill No dispresct Canada is differant from Wales it has its own Goverment and is a completely differant country from the US unlike Wales and the rest of the UK
Canada, England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Australia and New Zealand : ) All Brothers! after all most of us come from that little old Island!
Well said. I'm Welsh myself. I think after everything this country has done for Britain, the least they can do is put us on the Jack properly. We even gave England one of its greatest dynasties, the House of Tudor!
When the acts of union was created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of England which included Wales at the time and the kingdom of Scotland thats why England and Scotland are only represented (wales is not a kingdom), then the kingdom of Ireland joined and then broke off leaving northern Ireland but the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same.
@WeAreStrongerUnited no thats incorrect,wales has been a kingdom and has been united as a kingdom twice (before the act of union 1536) -it is only england that tried to say that we werent allowed to be a kingdom-you are just ignorant -and i dont mean that as an insult even-you are ignorant because you actually dont know any better through centuries of propoganda etc-the welsh are also historicly the original britons of the kingdom of britain in the true indiginous and celtic sense-
When the acts of union was created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of England which included Wales at the time and the kingdom of Scotland thats why England and Scotland are only represented (wales is not a kingdom), then the kingdom of Ireland joined and then broke off leaving northern Ireland but the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same.
when the acts of union were created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of england (which included wales at the time) and the kingdom of scotland, later ireland joined the union and thn we were left with northern ireland and the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same from that point.
@Ltdeacon you may 'like it' but its not your decision how all the people that make up all the countries of britain choose to identify themselves-im sure if i suddenly decided that everyone in britain is welsh really and should identify themselves as such people wouldnt be happy (even though in theory the welsh are the original britons that were here a long long time before the anglo saxons-but we decided you could have the flat landed dull prone to flooding country of england)
sorry I don't the difference. I meant no disrespect. My intention was to only to show respect and thanks to our allies. If you think that makes me an ignorant cunt or a tosser, I don't care. Calm your ass down and cut people some slack.
kick the fucking ragheads asis boys
MultiDombom 6 months ago
Thing about Welshmen is that you can't fuck with them!
Lewylewyloo 6 months ago 4
welsh and proud
cvalvoproductionz 7 months ago
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cvalvoproductionz 7 months ago
@trent4650 well according to my recruiting officer theyre going back in 2012 but dont take that as fact lol
woody4114 8 months ago
the first track that was smashed my brother was in that
DomxD15 8 months ago
my brother is in this
DomxD15 8 months ago
They need a new assault rifle badly! That one is far too heavy! Especially in that immense heat having to carry it around with all of your other equipment. Taliban are much more maneuverable since they have the AK47 and very few equipment, we need to match that because honestly that LSW assault rifle weighs a ton!
007Influence 9 months ago
@007Influence you are clearly a fucking dick and your page proves it. Also the lsw is not assault rifle, the clue is in its name.
jammyk87 8 months ago
@jammyk87 SA80 (L85A1) is an assault rifle! If you were in the military then you would know that =/
007Influence 8 months ago
@007Influence I am and do know it. Its a light support weapon, hence the longer barrel and bipod. The SA80 is an assault rifle the LSW isn't. Its just part of the SA80 range of weapons.
jammyk87 8 months ago
@jammyk87 You should have known what I meant
007Influence 8 months ago
@007Influence well i do, the sa80 does its job reasonably well at the moment, especially with the newly designed foregrip and llm. Its just getting a bit dated now, and the working parts in the trigger housing are a bit too fiddley, the ak's have a much more simple design, hence its reputation about it being a reliable weapon. But as an 18 year old foreign diplomat who supposedly does something to do with foreign embassy defence or some bullshit and has 22 SAS as their company you would know
jammyk87 8 months ago
@007Influence try carrying a gpmg if you think the lsw is heavy
lickspittle1 4 months ago
serious question, how many tours have they done in afghanistan and are they out there often? cause im in the process of joining now but i want to be out ther alot
woody4114 10 months ago
@woody4114 1 so far fella, and be careful what you wish for!
UNREAL2012 10 months ago 3
Keep safe boys! Good to see our flag flying high out there, you make us all proud! ill be joining the welsh guards after my phase 1 training in may, so ill see you all soon.
SerenityRebel 10 months ago
Always wanted to join the army, I'll be able to enlist next year, can't wait! Hopefully I may end upserving with some of you!
MrBluebirdsfc 11 months ago
Always wanted to join the army, I'll be able to enlist next year, can't wait!
MrBluebirdsfc 11 months ago
@imis786 Fuck up you ungrateful little prick. I can't explain how pissed off you've just made me. These people risk their lives day-in day-out for you, and all you do is come out with this idiotic comment. I swear if I knew who you were I'd kick seven shades of shit out of you then all the way abck in again.
MrBluebirdsfc 11 months ago
iv re uploaded the welsh guards mortars in afghanistan instead of the other one as the music in back was messed up
mark2522 11 months ago
YEAH CMON WALES LETS FUCK EMM UP
popcorn926 11 months ago
c'monn welsh im proud of all of ya
kierwilliamslfc1 1 year ago
is this the light infantry? cause i went to the recruitment place yesterday and the guy was saying there was the light infantry who were mainly on foot, paras who drop in by helicopter and the armoured? and i want to know whats the best one to join (i dont know all the correct names so sorry if im wrong on those)
woody4114 1 year ago
@woody4114: longevity = Asda (but best of luck/pob iwc)
aldwynsdaughter 1 year ago
@aldwynsdaughter huh?
woody4114 1 year ago
@woody4114 yeh sorry, that wasn't very clear of me, lol! I was trying to say: go for a safe job (like Asda)...Seriously though; one of my family is in the Welsh Guards & he absolutely loves it; so good luck to you, whatever you choose :)
aldwynsdaughter 1 year ago
@aldwynsdaughter ahh right thankyou :) all the best to your family who is serving
woody4114 1 year ago
well that was a lot more intense than what i did over the summer in 09. fuckin a
stay cool, guys
corporateCoffee 1 year ago
Well done lads
septem juncta in uno
jesus07juice 1 year ago
i was in afghanistan summer 2009..what did you do?
Invalid20 1 year ago
lmao green 5 an hadji lm is all that needs be said listen for the cookie shout out at the begining
carloscooke 1 year ago
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The dude on the right at 3:49 has a badass mustache.
TheBreadCrumbs 1 year ago
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TheBreadCrumbs 1 year ago
My dads in this :)
Egosftw1495 1 year ago 10
I'm joining the Royal Welsh but the Guards look pretty amazing too tbh.
Good video mate :)
bigjoe454 1 year ago
@bigjoe454 The Welsh Gaurds are Seniors to the royal welsh, My dad is in the Welsh gaurds and when i even quired joining the royal welsh he said no chance. so im Joining the Royal SIgnals :L
patient0y 1 year ago
@patient0y Haha, fair enough man.
I don't want Ceremonial duties though so I ain't going in the guards man.
bigjoe454 1 year ago
@bigjoe454 i know man, im Happie enough for a march on my passing out parade and that's it lol
patient0y 1 year ago
@patient0y Haha either way, we're a part of the same army.
I'm considering the guards, but just don't like ceremonial stuff.
bigjoe454 1 year ago
Cymru am byth
THEMATTBUXTON 1 year ago
On every army tribute I go on to, people always write comments, This would be welcome if it related to any appreciation and thanks to our boys. But no, people always have to write childish comments thinking they know how to solve the worlds geopolitical instabilities from their bedrooms. So lets be mature and steadfast in the memory of our fallen boys and girls, and pay homeage to their unshakeable sacrafice.
maynsy88 1 year ago
@maynsy88
"When good men die their goodness does not perish, but lives though they are gone. As for the bad, all that was theirs dies and is buried with them."
maynsy88 1 year ago
Well done lads keep up the good work blue red blue all the way.nice one taffs
matty5611 1 year ago
lol there was a guy shooting mortars in his underwear
Squeaky3384 1 year ago
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welshperson123 1 year ago
@welshperson123 I eat Cadets for breakfast.
bigjoe454 1 year ago
@bigjoe454 good for you :).
welshperson123 1 year ago
Fingers crossed I get in the AFC.
I'll be straight in the Welsh Guards at the chance I get.
bigjoe454 1 year ago
why are you arguing on a video of soldiers risking their lives day in, day out?
take the primary school, "saloon-bar" argument to one another's inbox and quit flaming the video!
randomchris1988 1 year ago
@archdeaconj Upset as I called u a conspiracy theorist i see. Yes Im not that that stupid as to believe what come out of training manuals or even off the news. Is this whole war a farce.. maybe maybe not. Theres good and bad to everything but you conspiracy theorist take shit to the "unbelievable" and "ridiculous"
MarineInfantry00 1 year ago
@MarineInfantry00 This 'conspiracy theorist' nonsense is nothing but a means to avoid addressing the issue. It's like calling someone an anti-Semite when they criticise Israel, to draw attention away from the criticism. It's the resort of those unable or unwilling to challenge the argument itself, either because they haven't the wit or because it can't be challenged.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
Go get em lads! Remember the Welsh have triumphed against greater odds than this!
beepandbop 1 year ago
@archdeaconj you conspiracy theorist are stupid as fuck.
MarineInfantry00 1 year ago
@MarineInfantry00 Not up to the challenge? Why am I not surprised? You are just full of rage and attitude, no actual thoughts at all, nothing inside your head except abuse and foul language. Whether what I say is a 'conspiracy theory' or not, or whether some other label can be put on it, is irrelevant. What matters is whether it's true or not. And truth, I have to tell you - brace yourself for this - is not to be found in the US Military Manual of Bleedin' Bullshit.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
for all these wee twats that thnik they know how to win the war in afghanistan within a week, get your self down to the recruitment office and join up, im sure the majors and generals will be pleased to hear your plan of "winning" the war. Civvies, bunch of fucking dick heads in my eyes worse than terry taleban him self.
vennom212 1 year ago
@archdeaconj Ever been to a recruiting office? Thought not.
I was given a frank account of what it's like out there from my recruiter. As much as it hurts your naive 'lefter than Lenin' mindset to actually think that the Army is not inherintly evil; it isn't.
Why would the army want people who aren't prepared to deal with what they could encounter there?
Let me guess, it's captilalisms fault? I suppose those insurgents are just defending their peaceful, tolerant society from the big bad Brits
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Oh dear, oh dear. You always get 'em on Youtube. What does it matter if I'm a leftie, a Leninist, an anti-capitalist, a peacenik or a pirate with a wooden leg? Arguments stand or fall on their own merit. 'Why would the army want people...?' Why are you asking me questions? If you have a point, state it. By your tone, I take it that you disagree with something I've said, but you haven't even said what. I sometimes wonder, I really do.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj Rhetorical, if you can't work that out you either have a bit more growing up to do (try again when you're 15) or you're being deliberatly difficult to try and create a facade of being intellectually superior.
I love how you have nothing better to do than start loads of arguments on youtube with as many people as possible. Life in your mums basement dull is it?
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Rhetoric? Ad hominem attack, don't you mean! So you've been along to your recruiting office and been given the usual bullshit. Did I say you haven't? You say the army isn't inherently evil? Did I say it was? Then you ask me a daft question and attribute to me a stupid answer. For goodness sake, man, what point(s) of disagreement do you have with what I said - and why? I can't be arsed deciphering your saloon-bar 'rhetoric'.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj Have you ever been to a recruiting office? No. Can you therefore make an informed comment? No. Much like the rest of your bile.
So why are you on this video?
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Have I been to the recruiting office? Er...no. Have you accessed primary sources? Have you read reports of investigative journalists not embedded with the military, aid workers, weapons inspectors, whistle blowers? Have you...? Now can we stop this silly game. The validity of an argument depends on many things, but going to the recruiting office is not one of them. In any war, each side has recruiting officers who spout what those higher up the chain of command have told them.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj Yes. I choose to look at everything rather than just what I want to see. Dopey cunt.
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Getting rattled, are we? Well I find it very hard to believe that someone who comes out with a statement like, 'I was given a frank account...from my recruiter' has probed very deep. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Well, you've made lots of abusive remarks, but still said nothing of substance. I ask you again: why do you think we're so determined to keep this puppet government in power in Afghanistan? You haven't a clue, have you?
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj I'm just not going to waste my time with someone who only believes what he wants to believes to the point where he makes things up.
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Don't be silly, how can anyone believe what they WANT to believe. If someone said they would give you $10 m dollars if you believed the earth was flat, could you? Not just say it but really believe it? Of course you couldn't. We all believe what we believe as a result of evidence, reason etc. You know very well, too, that I haven't made anything up. If you really thought that you would SAY what you think I've made up. Instead, you just make these vague, cowardly accusations.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Well, we have had a lengthy exchange. Yet while you have levelled all manner of false accusations at me - even bringing out that old chestnut 'conspiracy theorist' – you have yet to say anything which in any way challenges what I said. This is hardly surprising. For what I said is only what some of the finest independent researchers and investigative journalists have said. They make excellent company in the dock.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
makes me proud to be welsh... keep it up :)
trumpet190 1 year ago
wow, you've got some issues, you fucking weird weapon freak! fuck you!
zengahn 1 year ago
lads keep up the hard work. your country is behind you all the way no matter what.
Antish21 1 year ago
I tought that the welsh guard was English army LOL I didn't know that and I'm half welsh
TheEmoney18 1 year ago
@TheEmoney18 Theres no such thing as an English army.
grobo11 1 year ago
Great vid mate, nice choice of music.
Grymligast 1 year ago
im english and i would love the dragon to be on the union flag it would be beast (literally)
xASxDragoon 1 year ago
filth...when this land is islamic you will pay
PakisOwnYou 1 year ago
@PakisOwnYou
Shut the fuck up
GreenArrowII 1 year ago
@PakisOwnYou when this land is islamic???? hahahaha dont make me laugh m8, neva in a million years, BNP BNP BNP hahahaha
Antish21 1 year ago
Cymru am byth! btw what's that @ 2:12?
mrdavies09 1 year ago
Get some motherfuckers from canada.
NorOnt18 1 year ago
do ya av to b welsh to join the welsh guards
ffieldgrimeboy69 1 year ago
No, but it helps :)
UNREAL2012 1 year ago 15
@UNREAL2012 you dont have to be welsh at all when i was in training in catterick in 2007 there were loads of people from other countrys joining the welsh guards :)
liamlloyd 1 year ago
@UNREAL2012 80 % of the soilder are and im in the 20% :D
SuperImMoRtAl1994 1 year ago
@UNREAL2012 tahh matee
ffieldgrimeboy69 1 year ago
@ffieldgrimeboy69 Most of the North walians speak welsh to each other so if u aint it can be a little wierd
patient0y 1 year ago
@ffieldgrimeboy69
There's 5 guards regiments, I'm sure there is one close to your area.
bigjoe454 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
When the acts of union was created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of England which included Wales at the time and the kingdom of Scotland thats why England and Scotland are only represented (wales is not a kingdom), then the kingdom of Ireland joined and then broke off leaving northern Ireland but the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same.
WeAreStrongerUnited 1 year ago
Shut the fuck up archdeacon.
They guys what they had to do and withdrew.
They are my hereoes.
dkeith109a 1 year ago
@dkeith109a Why should I 'shut the fuck up' when I speak only the truth?
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Sorry, you're just that funny. Honestly are you like 14 or something? Come to 'spread the truth' to everyone?
You don't know shit.
harrifer3000 1 year ago
@harrifer3000 Any imbecile can make silly put-down remarks like these, but unless you say why you disagree with me, it's of no interest to anyone. It's also cowardly. C'mon, I challenge you to a proper civilized debate.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj
You think everyone is brainwashed and needs to wake up? No, you're just another elitist, leftist knob-end who thinks they're better than everyone else. Luckily you might eventually wake up before you're 25 and look back on your 'youtube jerk' days and cringe, realising how little you knew about anything. Let's hope.
harrifer3000 1 year ago
@archdeaconj
Meanwhile, the Welsh Guards are making sure the Taleban don't take over and turn Afghanistan back into what it was before 2001, a theocratic dictatorship. No doubt like the rest of the left you have a short memory about this, possibly also due to your not having been alive/watching the news at the time.
harrifer3000 1 year ago
@harrifer3000 What's it matter if I'm a leftist, elitist, 14-year-old, or pirate with a wooden leg? (OK, if you're that curious, I disregarded media bullshit, did own research, accessed primary sources, dug deep then, shocked by what I found, marched and campaigned against the invasion pity you didn't do the same!) The notion that we're over there to help the Afghan people is ludicrous. There has NEVER in the whole history of warfare been a war fought for altruistic purposes.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@harrifer3000 Hamid Karzai, puppet president of Afghanistan, used to be advisor to the US oil giant UNOCAL. He tried to negotiate an oil pipeline deal for them with the Taliban government, but they signed with Argentine's BRIDAS. After unsuccessfully attempting to block the deal, the US invaded and manoeuvred Karzai into power. Cant believe it? Check it out! It's in the public domain, though you won't find any mention of it in the media - or in US military handbooks, ha ha.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj When did I ever say that the war in Afghanistan was started to help the Afghan people? I said you were a knob-end, get it right. My main basis for this argument is that you're a condescending little shit.
Anyway, ISAF can't pull out now, or the Taleban would take over again. No matter what your politics you can't be a fan of those bastards having power, you wouldn't be allowed to spread your socialist shite in their country.
harrifer3000 1 year ago
@harrifer3000 Ha ha, 'knob-end' and 'condescending little shit' aren't arguments. Well, you may not have explicitly said the war was being fought to help the Afghan people, but you can't deny you implied it. Glad you're rethinking that one! No, I'm no fan of the Taliban (unlike the US who treated them as best buddies before the pipeline deal fell through). No alcohol, women in burqas...what a life! But the US isn't there to keep a repressive regime out of power (there you go again)!
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@harrifer3000 Reduced to silence are we? Not even going squeak about preventing terrorism on our streets by fighting them over there, ha ha.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@harrifer3000 I sometimes wonder, I really do. Well, your reply at least allows me to gauge your intellectual level, which is actually quite close to my initial estimate viz. it's average - average for those whose primary source of education is the US Military Manuel of Bleedin' Bullshit. Thx.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@harrifer3000 So why are we in Afghanistan? THINK. 'We’re in Afghanistan because...because you’re a fat-arsed faggot.' Er, no. Try this one. Why were we told there were WMD in Iraq? 'Because...because you’re a wanker.' No, it was a manufactured threat to gain consent of the masses for a nefarious foreign venture. Why do you use abuse in place of argument? 'Because I don’t have an argument.' CORRECT. Well done.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj We're there to help the Afghan government regain control of Afghanistan. That wasn't too hard.
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 No, it's not hard and I agree. We're in Afghanistan to ensure that the Taliban, who were in government up until the US invasion, do not overthrow Karzai, whom the US manoeuvred into power. The question which divides us (presumably) is WHY. Why does it matter to us who is in power? It isn't too hard to find an answer to that question, either, if you suspend judgment on the official pretext for the war and take the trouble to ferret out independent, primary sources of information.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj You mean "only believe what you want to believe and ignore anything which might not match my idea"
The Tablian executed a seven year old boy recently accused of spying. If you ask me that's enough reason needed to wipe them off the face of the Earth.
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 I see that you didn't like the tone of my reply. Well, I was merely responding in kind - what did you expect me to do, turn the other cheek? Now let's have a little mutual respect, shall we. Why do you think it's so important that Karzai is not overthrown by the Taliban?
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@Woozie52 I'm no fan of the Taliban either. No alcohol, women in burqas, ...what a life! But keeping a regime out of power because it's repressive is not why we're over there, it cannot be. The US has been best buddies with some frightful tyrants over the years e.g. that character in Uzbekistan (whose name I forget) who used to boil his opponents live. There has NEVER in the history of warfare been a war fought for altruistic purposes, only for self-interest. So WHY?
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj So lets ignore any benefits from it so that you can say the war is evil?
Google UN Afghanistan, the first few links should provide some reason.
Maybe that's why.
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Let's stick to the issue, shall we (and not start getting personal). WHY do you think it is in US interest to keep Karzai in power and Taliban out of power? I don't want to know what someone else thinks, so I'm not Googling anything. There are lots of YouTube vids, books, academic papers, articles by independent investigative journalists etc. that I could suggest for your enlightenment.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@Woozie52 Well I did, as it happens, google in ‘Youtube UN Afghanistan’. Two vids came up. One discussed the fraudulent Afghan elections that returned Karzai to power. Interesting, but how is that relevant to the issue under discussion? It’s not, is it. Ditto the other one. Then I googled in just ‘UN Afghanistan’ and ‘the first few links’ were also irrelevant. What a waste of time!
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj I meant google "UN Afghanistan" into google, not youtube video. The UN wants us there squire.
Woozie52 1 year ago
@Woozie52 You must have just read the first few words of my last posting and not bothered to read the rest! I said, 'THEN I googled in just UN AFGHANISTAN.' The first link that comes up is about drug use; the second is a news centre; the third is about population. All irrelevant. Anyway this is a daft way to conduct a debate.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
Give em hell boys
krazyjordy 1 year ago 2
jajajaj they talk funny ay mate shout mate
marcusos1111 1 year ago
anyone know what this vid was edited on? software I mean.
hoofing vid lads.
randomchris1988 2 years ago
iMovie on my MacBook buddy
UNREAL2012 1 year ago
nice one fella.
i'll have a fiddle with mine later
where'd you get the erm, spinning globe thing.
that's wicked!!
cant wait til april!
randomchris1988 1 year ago
The thing about the Taliban is you never see them, but the ARE there. This vid is a good example, not a single rag head on screen.
partya11night20 2 years ago
savage vid... respect
ballymoteboxer 2 years ago
im trying to join but cause of the recession its going to take at least a year for me to get to training. It takes the piss really.
christian199212 2 years ago
@christian199212
It's the same here, and I'm rejoining...been a year and a month so far, possibly another 2-3 at least...but I was made to wait, probably faster for a first time joiner, don't know why though.
BRM00RE 1 year ago
what you rejoining as..job?
christian199212 1 year ago
Going to have a crack at Royal Armoured Corps in FR role
BRM00RE 1 year ago
stupid reason mate. basically, i'm the same as you. we're being put on hold because we're 'not top priority'. Erm, why not? We're pretty much trained, it'll cost less to put us through some sort of 'refresher' course than it will to train a fresh crow.
stupid way our government works.
randomchris1988 1 year ago
@randomchris1988 thats exactly what I was thinking it's crap, I might change job role to something they need see how that works out, because anything is better than my shift work job now(that ends as its contract and then im unemployed again) and if i can't in 6 months im might move to other side of world and then all chances are out won't find a job in SA that would pay to get on a plane back:(...
BRM00RE 1 year ago
@BRM00RE Well since my last comment, I've been to Pirbright and done to Pirbright and done selection. There are intake dates opening up in Sept and Oct at CIC. Give it a chance before you change trade matey!
randomchris1988 1 year ago
@randomchris1988 lol changed 18 months ago bit late, phoned today to ask if it'd be any quicker to change to a role they need and basically no, I'd have to go back into the queue all over again but last update was today it's sat on an officers desk so to start over would be crap just gonna leave it Royal Armoured...they aint TOO bad...hahaha inf to tankie my cpl from training would love that, he doesn't like them...just a bit lol
BRM00RE 1 year ago
and the 3,000 americans dieing on american soil in 9/11 was?
ok fag, you fucking discust me
FlytheUnionJack 2 years ago
@FlytheUnionJack You find it hard to believe your country would lie to you and wage war to gain control of resources. But nothing ever changes. Ordinary decent folks will not ordinarily kill fellow human beings for ignoble purposes. They have always had to be lied to. It’s been the same throughout history. Even the Greeks had to be told they were fighting for Helen and not a strategic position on a trade route.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@FlytheUnionJack The US is in Afghanistan, as it was in Iraq, to establish a client state subservient to the requirements of US realpolitik in an oil-rich Middle East. Fighting the Taliban so they don't attack us on our streets is a false casus belli. The Taliban have never attacked anyone except those who invade their country.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
What did you do summer 2009? Sweating my as of in Marine training
Logan2k 2 years ago
ha ha ha ha
UNREAL2012 2 years ago
hoofing and a well made video, good effort fellas
freddiesnotdead 2 years ago
well im british and im going in the welsh guards ^_^ you dont have to be welsh to go in there regiment :)
danny2k9reet 2 years ago 2
i couldnt respect any military more than i respect the british military, coming from a danefag
Glaskruset 2 years ago 2
Mad props to some bad ass gents. You gotta luv the britts, scotts and canadians, true friends and allies.
crmoan 2 years ago 2
and Welsh? lol
UNREAL2012 2 years ago
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yellowbirdyellowbill 2 years ago
@yellowbirdyellowbill arent you part of the Untied Kingdom?, your comment is kinda like cossacks getting heated if i called them russians,yes u have your own traditions and so forth, but for simplicty sake, i like the UK and all the countries that it makes up
Ltdeacon 2 years ago
no offense but its not that simple. Wales is a fiercely patriotic country and the Union Jack doesnt even represent it. The Welsh guards fly the Welsh Dragon EVERYWHERE they go and at their barracks when in London they fly flags out of their windows. Its this fierce loyalty to Wales that makes the Welsh such great fighters. Traditions have nothing to do with it, its a question of birthright. Like calling a Canadian American for instance because they sound the same.
yellowbirdyellowbill 2 years ago
if ur welsh then u are most definetely british, cymru does mean brythonic= original
advent8888888888 2 years ago
@yellowbirdyellowbill No dispresct Canada is differant from Wales it has its own Goverment and is a completely differant country from the US unlike Wales and the rest of the UK
Enzo6606 1 year ago
We are differnant, yet united by brotherhood : )
Canada, England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Australia and New Zealand : ) All Brothers! after all most of us come from that little old Island!
DarkestManager 1 year ago 12
@DarkestManager united by brotherhood?? please !!
chrisjoneschrisjones 1 year ago
@DarkestManager I'd like to add in the United States, but not all of us have come directly from that old island! ;)
beepandbop 1 year ago
Wales has its own government too!
nrjelley 1 year ago
Well said. I'm Welsh myself. I think after everything this country has done for Britain, the least they can do is put us on the Jack properly. We even gave England one of its greatest dynasties, the House of Tudor!
nrjelley 1 year ago
When the acts of union was created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of England which included Wales at the time and the kingdom of Scotland thats why England and Scotland are only represented (wales is not a kingdom), then the kingdom of Ireland joined and then broke off leaving northern Ireland but the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same.
WeAreStrongerUnited 1 year ago
@WeAreStrongerUnited no thats incorrect,wales has been a kingdom and has been united as a kingdom twice (before the act of union 1536) -it is only england that tried to say that we werent allowed to be a kingdom-you are just ignorant -and i dont mean that as an insult even-you are ignorant because you actually dont know any better through centuries of propoganda etc-the welsh are also historicly the original britons of the kingdom of britain in the true indiginous and celtic sense-
chrisjoneschrisjones 1 year ago
When the acts of union was created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of England which included Wales at the time and the kingdom of Scotland thats why England and Scotland are only represented (wales is not a kingdom), then the kingdom of Ireland joined and then broke off leaving northern Ireland but the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same.
WeAreStrongerUnited 1 year ago
when the acts of union were created there were only two kingdoms, the kingdom of england (which included wales at the time) and the kingdom of scotland, later ireland joined the union and thn we were left with northern ireland and the flag and coat of arms has always stayed the same from that point.
WeAreStrongerUnited 1 year ago
They should a dragon on the Jack,it would represent the welsh and it would also look fucking cool
VigisKane 1 year ago
@Ltdeacon you may 'like it' but its not your decision how all the people that make up all the countries of britain choose to identify themselves-im sure if i suddenly decided that everyone in britain is welsh really and should identify themselves as such people wouldnt be happy (even though in theory the welsh are the original britons that were here a long long time before the anglo saxons-but we decided you could have the flat landed dull prone to flooding country of england)
chrisjoneschrisjones 1 year ago
sorry I don't the difference. I meant no disrespect. My intention was to only to show respect and thanks to our allies. If you think that makes me an ignorant cunt or a tosser, I don't care. Calm your ass down and cut people some slack.
crmoan 2 years ago
@crmoan fair one, my hand is outstretched, i was off on one before and i apologise. Still, you know now eh :)
yellowbirdyellowbill 2 years ago
@crmoan get your facts straight twat face-its not brits ,scots and canadians,its english ,welsh,scots and canadians-you ignorant idiot
chrisjoneschrisjones 1 year ago
cheers guys
H22A7 2 years ago 2
Keep up the Good work....
Cheers from Portugal
p.s - mokhtarjon UP YOURS!!
P90TR 2 years ago 3
Great video
00peter000000 2 years ago 3
Thanks for all the hard works boys....stay safe over Christmas and the New Year
00peter000000 2 years ago 4
NICE VIDEO!! AND SONG!!!
Fryer2k9 2 years ago
Keep up the good work, stay safe all the guys and girls who won't be home this christmas, our thoughts are with you.
jonesy500kr 2 years ago 2
oi dickfuck (2wentee4seven), leave it out, she's got more balls than you'll ever have, as she quite rightly said you have'nt got a clue so piss off.
jonesy500kr 2 years ago 2
nice video!
keep up the good work lads!!!
welshman123456789 2 years ago
1:40 was that a javelin missile launcher?
Ktownsend1992 2 years ago 2
it's an nlaw i think
runningdonkeyman 2 years ago
lmfao yes it is
nerovipus889 2 years ago
2wentee4seeven you are a fuktard, no one can be 100% sure anything could, grow up matey War aint a game
liamwakeman4007 2 years ago
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2wentee4seven 2 years ago
it's not a game you idiot. my childrens father was there for 6 months in 1st battalion, you haven't got a clue.
carlym83 2 years ago
What a cool laded out video!
Fryer2k9 2 years ago
your a dickhead
deerhunter30cal 2 years ago
i hope you die u little cunt i'd rape ur grandmother if i met u...prick
callumboi12345 2 years ago
May i Know the name of the music for the background ???
Juggernaut788 2 years ago
all my life by the foo fighters.
also nice vid.
0n0a0m0e 2 years ago
Thank you .
Juggernaut788 2 years ago
good to be home :)
121Swaleskid 2 years ago
R.I.P the fallen. F'ing good job lads
youvejustbeenhad 2 years ago 3