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  • Thank you for posting all the Vids. I am wanting to get my Instructor's Cert and watching folks like you teach really helps me out. Plus, to be frank, a GREAT way to refresh too, no!?! Seriously though, thank you for posting.

  • Wow talk about off centerline and hes trying to instruct a video on landing lol

  • lets see how many comments i can make....

    -he looks like santa and his voice is unbearable

    -the person filming on the RIGHT side seat was to the LEFT of centerline upon touchdown

    - you don't ever want to land with a tailwind for obvious safety reasons

    -you used the entire runway because you came in WAY to high, not just cuz of the tailwind..its cuz u cant land a plane.

    I cannot people like this get certified to instruct..its truly scary

  • his voice is very annoying

  • do general aviation aircraft have a limit on the tail winds they can handle? would a 100knot tail wind damage them? assuming for arguments sake they coudl fly in the upper jet streams would it rip them to pieces even if it was a tail wind and not a headwind. does a higher ground speed still cause stress to the airframe in the way a faster airspeed will

  • @210482fmj

    with 100knot tailwind this cessna would fly without enginer power. Cessna in this case can go 160knots. If you fly 160knots, the wind is 160knots. Yet they always seem to be able to make 1000's of flying hours.

    In other words, no it wont damage the plane directly.

    Other that then in a cessnas case 100knots will force it to stay in the air no matter what you try and eventually cause the plane to crash. 100knots is a hurricane, dont expect to land soon.

  • @210482fmj

    all your gizmos will be faulty aswell, a currently changing altimeter, faulty pitot readings, please dont try flying in a hurricane. only in fsx.

  • LOL.....If you have good judgement of attitude and power/descent profile, you can still land on your desired part of the runway, despite having a tailwind. You just have to descend to a point where you will start your flare earlier. I'm not condoning tailwind landings - it should never be done, I'm just saying don't use it as an excuse for landing 3/4 the way down the runway.

  • 53 people are scared of flight, let alone flying on their own

  • Why is this guy landing with a tailwind???

  • Well thats one way to get a Piper to use most of what looks like a 2km runway.....?

  • i feel bad for any student that has this guy as an instructor

  • He is way off the center line....

    

  • " What I wanna do is make my turn so Im not overshooting or undershooting the runway.." (as he overshoots the runway) I lawled

  • Crazy piper pilots and their tailwinds

  • i watched 3 seconds of this video before I knew he was reading off of a script he never seen before

  • i didnt know santa was a flight instructor

  • afgan flight training

  • Whr the F is the center line??

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  • @katanaguy100 i don't even have my PPL yet, but it's common sense. and i agree w/ everything you said!.

  • I thought a plane needs to land against the wind just like take off? can some one please explain??? I realy would like to know

  • I thought a plane needs to land against the wind just like take off? can some one please explain??? I realy would like to know

  • @tkinfl Depends on the tailwind component. Most airplanes can land with a taliwind component of up to 10 Knots. Not the smartest thing (not only do you waste alot of runway, but your also putting more stress on your tires by landing at a higher ground speed), but he could have been dealing with a one way runway. There's one of those at KLAM out this way due to restricted airspace.

  • Dude, the guy in the beginning is the one that needs weed, NOT the fukin pilot!

  • are you even a PPL holder as that was tellipathetic sorry man

  • I wanted to toss my monitor out the window into a crosswind after this video...

  • OK, why did you land with a tail wind? I heard you talking about landing downwind, a couple of times. "Preferably you want a head wind?" Sorry, as a rookie, with less than a 1000 hrs, I don't ever remember, purposely, landing downwind. Also, "on crosswind?" - no, that's the Base leg. (agreed, it IS a crosswind, BUT,..ah, ah, ah it is the pattern's BASE leg. Oh well.....

  • 48 people crash landed...

  • LOL "80 on crosswind" I can't believe this guys a CFI

  • this guy says runway about 80 times is the last minute of the video.

  • ill trust a 2 minute video with my life in a plane !!!!!!!!!!! thanks expert village!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Oh of course. Let's learn to fly an airplane...on behalf of expertvillage. *facepalm*

  • that was a terrible landing its called crosswind and tailwind inputs to counteract those forces

  • lol, what a dumbass, landing with a tailwind...shoulda chosen the other end of the runway.

  • you'd think a flight instructor would know that his license isn't "certified flight instructor" but is instead "certificated flight instructor" ...yes, there is a difference"

  • Why is he landing with a tailwind? Number one rule is land into wind.

  • im sorry, but as a commercial jet pilot, ur video only overs a small portion of all airplanes, it's a whole new experience when u have two jet engines, not a single propeller

  • zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz­

  • i love how he was shocked to have landed... @2:24... "WHOOP- we hit the ground"

  • Right pattern at uncontrolled?

  • @DirectTech some airports do have right hand traffic patterns...but this guy is clearly a moron, so i wouldn't trust anything he has to say.

  • Hmmmm ... you're supposed to compensate for the wind, and not get 'pushed' wide, or too high or too far down the runway.

  • this guy's a joke!

    

  • haha he is smoking!!! he said to do so i bring in the pot!! look at 1:06

  • not very articulate. let it settle down???what does that mean to a student?

  • LoL we made it safely on the ground.. one more time :D

  • The title says "for Pilot Training"... holy Santaclause s**t!

    Trainee pilots should not be landing downwind, and definately shouldn't be taught that the picture presented here is ok. Way too high AND a tailwind? I wish GA pilots in Australia could have runways long enough to do that...

  • Crikey - I land Jumbo's better in FSX and I don't even have a license!

  • @jagara1 Yeah, thats because FSX isn't very realistic, ever thought of that? I'd like to see you land an airplane in reality, then i'd trust your statement.

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  • Terrorist's gonna love this video

  • @GGGunitNextLevel Terrorists don't care about landing, lol

  • @akkalakakalakka ahahaha EPIC comment xD

  • expert village also teaches how to fly

  • "Riding out" a tailwind will eventually get you killed. Tune in ATIS/ASOS to get the winds prior to arrival. If there is none, you pas overhead & observe any ground based wind indicators on the field. Lastly, you land into the wind. Casey Jones you better watch your speed.

  • Okay so this guy made waaay to many mistakes for an instructor. If you have a tail wind then you need to correct for any additional altitude this will give you on final, make your downwind a little longer would have worked just fine, don't blame a tail wind for you being high and fast, correct for it. I dont want to judge I bet he's a fine pilot or else he wouldn't have gotten an instructors license, but if this video is intended for students, it really is not a good message.

  • Seriously, a tailwind on finals????your crazy putting this video up, expert village my ass

  • I appreciate what he is trying to do but there are many mistakes in what he says and does. The most apparent and important is not using or even mentioning a checklist and also not sure what he was talking about refering to wind while on final. While it shows the basic mechanics, it is not a very good learning tool.

  • I wanted to add, it is a good lesson in that is show a 30yr instructor making mistakes that any pilot or student pilot will pick up on instantly. 1. No radio call. 2. no checklist. 3 improper reasoning for entering downwind at 45 deg. 4. No scanning for traffic. Thats just off the top

  • I wish that I could fly but I have cerebral palsy. Anytime someone has cerebral palsy that autimatically dismisses them from ever getting a pilot's license.

  • @sampleguy2009 Maybe you cannot get a pilots license, but all the pilots I know are great people and they wouldn't mind giving people rides. Most pilots I know will take almost anyone they know flying, and a lot of times even let them take the controls. Just because you cannot earn your pilots license does not mean you should let your dreams of flying die! =)

  • @DerPilotMann You're a goddamn liar!

  • @sampleguy2009 I encourage your dreams and you call me a liar? That seems really nice. Why don't you just try?

  • @DerPilotMann Ah fuck off shit face!

  • thast was the funniest crap I've ever seen!

  • Not impressed. Compare to King Videos and it's a huge difference. Landing with a tailwind? Or did he intend to say he had a tailwaind on base and a crosswind on final? (Does not look like it, but; trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.) He should indeed have made radio calls. Not a bad landing, but; if it's an instructional video, it's not good. I would take it down and remake it.

  • Everybody has such strong things to say against this guy. Wow. Relax a bit. Is it the best approach? Hell no. Why was he landing with a tailwind? Has me beat. Why did he not make any radio calls? Scary, but he legally doesn't have to. Was this the best educational video for student pilots? Obviously not, but I find it sad that people bash a person they've only seen through a video

  • LOL this guy sounds drunk!

  • My Capt buddy says alot guys become instructers, just to accumulate hours.

  • Nice vid!

    if flying the heavies is your thing, you can do just that realistically with something called "Multi Crew Experience".

    Google it up LOL!

  • NEXT LESSON:

    Unauthorized carrier landings, inverted approach into the bow.

  • i prefer dave pressy

  • Wow...No radio calls? Landing with a tailwind? What if someone else is landing "correctly" with the headwind at the other end of the runway? Can you say "Oh Sh*t" ???

  • He also called the base leg the crosswind leg.

  • how much you have to pay to learn to fly a plane?

  • A hour coul cost 100-to 500 $ depending with the school of aviation you want to learn with it.

  • thx

  • I would be amazed if this guy really got his CFI rating. All his guidance in performing a landing is so unhelpful to a student pilot, especially on the flare... "Bring her in nice and smooth" how can anyone follow that advice? Not to mention the absence of radio calls, calling the base leg a crosswind leg, and overshooting the centerline then landing left of centerline after floating down the runway. Oh also where's the pre landing checklist? The list can go on and on...

  • @peteheatb3 You took the words right out of my mouth.......I'm surprised this guy has a license, let alone and instructor's license.

  • CFI sounds a bit sleepy. He probably lands on 32 and flies a right-hand pattern because he's at Cottonwood, AZ, where 32 is the calm-wind runway and it has a right-hand pattern (as anyone who looks it up would know). The landing is not perfect but it's not bad, either. It isn't necessary to stall the plane onto the runway; any aircraft can be flown down to the runway and big aircraft have to be. A slight tailwind is fine with a small aircraft and a long runway.

  • uhhh, expert village is slipping here (and not in a cross-control kinda way lol).

    Did he make a radio call? Landing with a tail-wind? was he trying to demonstrate a tail wind landing, or is this a normal landing for him??

  • Should be called idiot village. You at all times to try to not land with tailwind. In uncontrolled you have decision and In controlled usually the active runwys are into wind.

  • hahaha that video be named how not to fly and land

  • if ur just learning to fly avoid landing with tailwind...and whats up with the right base leg..?? at least in my country its always left base , specially in uncontrolled airports ..just curious

  • nice cessna ^^

  • PPL SEL Instrument 700+ hours.

    That's why I say that guy is a douche.

  • i like how nearly every comment is obviously from people who aren't pilots. Or even have any stick time.

  • No way this douche is a CFI. That was the kind of approach and landing a 15 hour student makes. He had terrible command of the a/c and couldn't explain things the way an actual CFI has been trained to. You're a disservice to the flying community!

  • I like the way he goes high pitched on touchdown

    " Oops... we hit the ground"

    Thank you Captain Obvious

  • OMG!!! Landing on tailwind? not even on center Line... but it was ok

  • What real instructor would say for that horrific landing;

    Wait 'till you at a 90 degrees angle with the runway, pul up to 3G on a late base leg, make a wide range of exuses on how high and fast you are, baloon all the way down the runway until the plane stall and you plant the right wheel on the left side of the runway, all the while making stupid exuses.

  • shit landing

  • Good grief! The guy sounds like he's on drugs or maybe had a stiff cocktail for breakfast. That might explain why he chose to land downwind and ended up planting the right main wheel on the centerline.

  • The only thing worse than hearing your pilot say Whoops... is when your surgeon says it.

  • ahahaha... thats why they've learnt to anesthetize you beforehand so that you cant hear them when they say "whoops".. haha

  • @albanyjohn whoops isnt bad, OH SHIT is bad

  • @albanyjohn that's why the anesthetic business has tons of cash

  • I love how blowing through final, being high on the approach, and not landing on the centerline are all because of the "tailwind." Here's an idea. ADJUST for the wind and quit making excuses. As a flight instructor I think I'm qualified to say this guy is a bad instructor.

  • I always try to avoid landing in a direction that gives you tailwind if possible.

  • i just avoid landing

  • god this video is crap

  • lol haha cool

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  • Landing with a tailwind increases your distance required to land and stop the plane. It is not unsafe if you have the space required, you just touch down at a higher ground speed. The runway at Manston in the UK is so long and one ends near the coast it sometimes has a tailwind at both ends.

  • This guy is so high. You can hear him coughing..no doubt he's smoking the bong in there even the camera guy didn't film him much.

    "I'm a little high." Couldn't tell.

  • LOL

    Your comment is absolutely hilarious. This guy is a fucking joke.

  • Lol, thanks. I noticed that he makes no traffic call outs whatsoever. His video where he does the run ups is even funnier....

  • @SoCalFlyer1 AHAHHAHAHA

  • @SoCalFlyer1 good point - I have flown a bit myself and can confirm from my own experience that fsx is harder, as a generalisation, than the real thing.

    Of course they are very different - fsx is a very good basis for real world flying as long as one practises the correct patterns etc within fsx.

  • @jagara1 From my experience, all sims are harder than the real thing because you can't feel whats going on.

  • @SoCalFlyer1 Lol! Hahahahahaha!

  • @SoCalFlyer1

    "im a little high" LOL LOL LOL

  • @SoCalFlyer1 you say it like its a bad thing

    

  • Sometimes I wonder why Expert Village has certain things. How to cook a steak, fine. How to improve your slapshot, okay. But how to fly a freaking plane? Next thing you know Expert Village is going to try to teach us how to build a space ship or travel to Mars. Sure it's a cool video for enthusiasts who don't have and don't plan on getting a PPL but I really hope nobody tries to actually learn to fly from a YouTube video. And about flight sims, my flight school uses FSX in its ground school.

  • FSX helps with procedures, I feel it helped me a little to fly the real thing.

  • Its important to practice a number of tail wind landings because down the road sometime you may encounter wind shear (which I have several times) where your headwind turns unexpectedly to a tail wind..or you may need to make a quick landing due to weather and don't have the luxury of landing on the favorable runway

  • Sometimes landing, or even taking off with a tailwind is more beneficial/safer than taking off and landing into the wind. Obstacles and climb gradients are one reason for possibly taking off with a tailwind. Some airports are one way in and out and you have no choice to takeoff with a tailwind. Just be sure you do not exceed limitations for your aircraft in landing with a tailwind. I have landed with many tailwinds - even in jets. It's not unsafe as some people on here think.

  • i guess the "experts" here know that you can land with tailwind within field/aircraft /regulations performance limits...right?

  • You suck!

  • yea haha why would u land with tailwind on an isntructional video? oh well i guess if u got 500 pounds of fuel left and need to land right away go for the tailwind, but rodney come on, u had enough pal

  • i think he was a little high from something besides the wind hell even i know not to land in a tailwind on fs2004 i usually do a go arround and land into the wind on the other end of the runway rather than get pushed off by a strong tailwind. ive got over 500 hours in all different aircraft on fs2004. yeah i know i have no life but its gonna help if and when i actaully do start taking lessons.

  • yes it will, fs9 and fsx are as real as it gets, flight sim wise i got my PPL recently and from everything u learn on flightsim makes flight school go easier, dont let anyone say it isnt helpful, trust me, i think fs9 and fsx made my flight school life way easier then u know, goin in not knowin a thing.

  • Procedure wise it will help, but flying for real is so different!

  • Example of why to not land in a tailwind. Wasn't a good one, but he touched down smooth and everyone lived, LOL.

    But seriously, I see tons of little kids comment here and say "no good pilot" or BS like that. EVERYONE has bad landings. I remember a flight landing at KLAS on a southwest 737-700 and the thing floated and then bounced three times. We all have bad landings.

    ...But the guy does sound like he's been smoking some grass. LOLL

  • You are an expert? Why would you want to land with a tailwind?You should tell everyone , not to do this type of landing.

  • Let's just say: that was not up to PTS standards.

  • Rodney..

    Thanks for the video. My CFII lapsed years ago so maybe I am out of line. But I thought the 45 degree entry was to enable traffic joining the pattern and traffic already in the pattern to see/avoid each other more easily; predictable & standard traffic flow rather than random chaos. At 1:17 you call Cross wind isnt it really Base? At 1:55 you say flaps in what is that: are we extending flaps or retracting flaps?

  • And finally we are landing in a tailwind for an instructional video-why are we doing that? Dont mean to just criticize, I enjoyed the video but they were questions screaming to be asked.

    Respectfully.

  • and a little high cos of the tail wind

  • woop! we hit the ground XD LOL

  • he blames it all on the wind lol

  • lmao i know

  • He's certified?!

  • Dear All,

    I have some questions about psychology:

    *Why do we want to be a pilot?

    *Why do jobs related to aviation considered to be more professional?

    THANK YOU IN ADVANCE for your creative ideas and brainstorm!!!

  • I think we are so compelled to fly because we can't, it's that human sense of rebelliousness that has put us on top of the food chain and sent us to the moon.

  • During a communication failure whilst on a VFR approach what are the correct procedures?

    are u just suppose to perform a standard overhead join and then integrate into the pattern by looking at the signal squares or are u suppose to circle overhead till light signals are beamed at you

  • Well I know that you should sqawk 7500. That is the "I cannot contact anyone due to a communation falure". That's all I know

  • 7500 is if you are getting hijacked. 7600 look for light gun signals from the tower if they have one after you receive the signals wiggle your wings so they know you will comply. If there is no tower still squawk 7600 but get in the pattern with the other traffic

  • That's 7600. 7500 is for hijacking.

  • hahahahaha this guy is funny

  • Awful. Just awful.

  • Try landing on the centerline...

  • This guy is not an EXPERT lol, what an idiot landing tailwind. especially in a tutorial video ! Plus he landing so far up the runway!

  • Sooo... were safely on the grounf (whew!)

  • why the hell would he going with a tail wind.....my instructor enforced that you NEVER land in a tailwind! unless absolute emergency

  • Why in god's name would attempt to force a landing with a tail wind? That's begging for trouble.

  • In case of an emergency.

  • Yeah but this is basic lesson to land... you don't need yet to learn emergency landings. This is stupid!

  • what's tail wind?i know nothin so please..thaknss

  • wind from behind you which slows the speed that your wing travels through the air, IAS

  • sounds like he is pissed lol

  • Lets teach people to get themselves in trouble by landing in a tailwind. Good job!

    Primacy: Teach it right the first time.

  • Oh Well, "Any landing you can walk away from"...

  • He didnt even landed the plane on the centre and stalled

  • You want to stall the airplane just as the gear touches down.

  • All country has shit poor pilot standard traninings but aus very harsh on requirement when you become PPl student

  • On the other hand, this video could serve as a good instructional tool on the consequences of a tailwind landing. It really shows everything from the effects of drift, to ground speed variations and approach profile.

  • why would u land with tail wind. Really the guy is a stooge why would u post that? Really. I am not saying that american

    pilots are bad but. i think the FAA should look and mointer there flight traning a bit better.

  • Why would a video be posted of this awful landing under the pretext of selling you flight lessons? I agree with ClancD. This guy is going to punch a hole in the dirt.

  • Any student or non-pilot watching this should know, this is an example of how NOT to land. This guy should have his certificate pulled, he's freakin dangerous...

  • well i guess we know why we have stupid accidents with people like this instructing OMG!!!

  • Wow. Glad I'm not flying with this guy...he's a CFI and overshoots final to land downwind!!! This guy should have his certificate pulled. Good to see he's in his trusty Cessna Piper.

  • at that height he should have initiated a go-around procedure

  • this guy is an idiot, why would he have a tailwind on landing, he should be landing into windo so you dont lose life if you have a gust from behind, the FAA is piss poor, the yanks cant fly worth a F*ck. And bot is sounds like he is speaking in sloooow moootioooon

  • This guy is an idiot, don't take him as an example of all American pilots.

  • "The Yanks can fly worth a F*ck" Tell that to the great American pilots in WW2. ..you're blanket statement won'y fly here.

  • Rodney Felix or as we know him from Gilligan's Island...WRONG WAY FELDMAN! lol

  • you forgot to put your carb heat on before reducing power, downwind checks, C-R-A-P checks......American pilots are so slack no wonder light aircraft are always crashing over there! the standard compared to british pilots is poor! i did my hour building in Naples FL and found the standard to be garbage!!!

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  • Em.... Well im not really the idiot here.

    You wer the one who said" i just turned 15 and have a pilot licens myself."

    And just to let you know I'm from Ireland and ye that doesnot sound like America to me....

    Retard

  • How does living in Germany not make it a lie may I ask?

  • uh...ur an idiot...not every country follows dumbass american laws and regulations

  • masterimp4, I highly doubt you have your PPL when only turning 15 because

    1) You cant log your hours until you turn 15

    2) As twmate says " considering the FAA's minimum age to hold a Private Pilot's license is 17, honestly why lie?

    3) I'm 15 and I only have 7 hours logged.... so theres no way you have a PPL just truning 15.