I gotta say that in England at least (not sure bout other dialects) that the sentence she said with two manages is totally legitimate. It's like a sort of subtle joke, which is bloody impossible to explain, but people would know where you were coming from nonetheless.
The reason she says "manage" twice is because the first time, she is using it in a direct context, and the second in the idiomatic context of the question asked her. You can hear the breath she takes before the first "manage," indicating a change of meaning. Her statement in other words is: "Well, it's not like I actually divide up my time between fame and family; it just all pretty much works out, you know?" (The details of how it works out are difficult to explain and are rather insignificant)
It seems pretty blatantly obvious that she's saying "manage". Not only does it fit the context, but also the way she's saying the sentence, her tone, the emphasis, etc. And anyway, somehow throwing Arabic word into an otherwise completely English sentence seems a little implausible.
I think she does say "manage". If she meant "I'm sorry", then she would not have said "but". I think she's trying to say that she doesn't consciously do anything to manage, but somehow everything works out. So that would mean it's okay to use two "manages" in a sentence.
Dude seriously. It's so obvious that she says manage. Not only because it sounds like manage, but also because she (undoubtedly) uses that word like three or four times in the same sentence. Also, I never heard an "L" being pronounced and instead heard an "N". I don't doubt that you are a very intelligent man, but go get your ears checked or something --__--
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pardon my ignorance but why do you think she's saying ma'alaysh? Does Martha speak Arabic? (she is Argentine - yes I know she's fluent in Portuguese, Spanish, French, German, English also...). It's highly unlikely that she's using an Arabic word! She is clearly saying "manage", especially as it was the word used in the question to her!
It's wonderful to see this piano titan, one of the few truly great pianists still alive, giggling and blushing like a little school girl. What an extraordinary woman. Even at nearly seventy, I still have a crush on her.
She is so charming and adorable. I love to watch her perform. Some people possess this magical quality that is truly magnetic, and she is one of them.
she was always amazing smart focused.she can do anything itsall always been like this.always coloured always diff dynamics why cant other pianists do this. she' starts the octaves 2 as fast at tempo she leaves orchestra.she is so fasinee.thats her problem too mechanics,icant imagine wht she must work on.few woman have ever had her strenght Hess did.
I think she says "manage", because Groves said "How do you manage"...sounds a little like ma'alaiysh but in this context in doesn't make so much sense.
I saw Martha perform Prokofiev 3 in London last Monday... an exquisite performance as always.
I met her by chance that evening too as I was leaving a restaurant near the hall... she was charming and graceful, chatting and laughing, even taking an interest in my playing; an unforgettable experience.
And if you're having a hard time listening, she's answering his question, "How do you manage with having children and an international career?"
Her answer is: "I really don't know. Basically I don't manage, but somehow I manage." A few seconds later she repeats it again, saying "somehow I manage."
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I must respectfully continue to disagree. I have no idea how a young Ms. Argerich might have picked up the expression, but I believe she's saying "I really don't know. Basically I don't, MA'ALAYSH, but somehow I manage." Would such an intelligent woman repeat "manage" within the space of five words?
I think I'm going to have to extract, loop and post that half second of utterance, and see how many remain happy to change an unfamiliar sequence of phones into a familiar word.
To be truthful I think she says 'manage', twice, which is probably why she laughs, because repetition of a same word can be humorous. Also why would she insert a colloquial arab word while speaking in english? I know in Spanish, there are quite a few arab expressions (for exampl Ojala) but you would only say them in spanish and not say them while speaking in english.
I agree with you, many of my friends are Arabs (living in Israel), I am well familiar with the word Ma'aleish....I use is it quite often but she dedinitely does not say that....not even close. Anyway, she's adorable...what can I say, one of the greatest (and modest) pianists in our era
@mnemonyzz How CAN this have become a discussion about Arabic expression is quite beyond me. Of COURSE she said, "Basically I don't manage, but somehow I manage." Repeating words has nothing to do with intelligence or lack thereof. A native speaker of English MIGHT have said, "Basically I don't manage, but somehow I do." But then she'd be repeating "do", wouldn't she?
I'm sorry but that's an exceedingly thin speculation. Actually no, it's not even thin, it's conjured out of thin air (forgive me for being so blunt).
"Would such an intelligent woman repeat 'manage'....?"
I think it far from implausible that such an intelligent woman might employ a figure of speech known as epanalepsis. It's when a word is repeated in successive clauses for rhetorical effect (as I did in my second sentence).
...altering the tone in which she pronounces "manage" in order to use the word somewhat equivocally and convey a sense of self-deprecating irony, as if to say "I don't actually manage *well*, but I suppose I manage *satisfactorily*.
She even giggles to punctuate the irony, and this all strikes me as entirely self-evident.
@polymath7 well I completely disagree. You miss the point here. she obviously means that she doesn't have to manage in the sense that she doesn't need to be organized to do things. and she speaks about her attitude towards life in general. this woman was/is so bright, she doesn't have to take the time to think about the most proper way to do things right. She says "manage" in the sense that she survives. She does it though she doesn't know how she does it.
@polymath7 And also: take a look at the glance she casts at the piano when she says that she learned the concerto in three weeks, " in the middle of other things as well". That glance means: "I don't know how I do it and I'm even a little scared about that ability" Martha Argerich is amazingly talented.
@mnemonyzz It's "manage". If you shut out all external sounds (I use a high-quality set of headphones), it's very clear. It's not really close to the Arabic pronunciation of "Ma'alaysh", and it wouldn't make sense for her to say "never mind" there. Of course, you're welcome to continue to believe that she said "Ma'alaysh", but I don't even know where she would have gotten "Ma'alaysh" from, let alone felt like using it.
ma'alaysh (معليش) is a very common colloquial Arabic interjection. Tricky to translate, but semantic import centres around "excuse me" - "sorry" - "oh well" - "never mind".
with her, it´s esay to fall in love quicly, I love you Martha Argerich. Thank you so much because you play the piano like i never seen before on my whole life. I don´t about music but sometimes i just see the piano playing alone. Bacio per te Marta
Yes, I believe you're an intelligent guy, I'm glad for you, you just either need a hearing test or somewhere far more relevent to boast your command of Arabic!!
Thanks for your input, sir. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but still await a translation rather than an ignoring of that brief but well-articulated utterance.
Ok it's just a question dont get mad. dang... Does she still play? and are there any newly updated videos of her? if so please copy and post the link in the reply box.
I think that is a ligitimate question I'm not sure why people give you the thumbs down.... . She is in my estimation the most exciting pianist alive. Very "Horowitzian" musicianship.
guardmemberswill I am from Argentina myself and i must say that tohugh it's true that the 'sh' sound is in our phonemic inventory, nobody uses it (which is terrible and gives you an idea of argentinian people). Instead of, most people uses the y, even when they speak in english. For example instead of saying shake, they say yake. Another thing i have to say is that the way Martha speaks english is very strange for an argentinian, sometimes i don't understand what she says.
Well the point of that analysis is that when you listen to her say it the second time, she still seems to elide the 'd' part of it to some extent. The previous one was said under "more emotional" circumstances, when she was less likely to concentrate on proper pronunciation.
It certainly makes sense that she knows Spanish, French, and English, as many educated people in her region would, but the chance that she would use a colloquial Arabic phrase in such a way is extremely unlikely. Not to mention the fact that it would be presumptuous for it to be used in normal English conversation, as most English speakers wouldn't know it.
In the end, I'm absolutely certain she's saying 'manage'.
Read these posts backwards for the correct ordering.
Posts show up right order in "all comments" view. Thanks for the phonetic analysis from a Spanish point of view. But it seems irrelevant, as she demonstrates perfect competence with a standard english "manage" before and after. Why is this utterance so different?
Afraid I'm still absolutely convinced she's saying ma'alaysh.
Maybe I'll try extracting the relevant bit of audio and posting to a specialist forum to see what neutrals think.
As she is from Buenos Aires, Argentina, she would have no difficulty pronouncing the 'sh' sound, as that sound is in their phonemic inventory. Also, the 'j' that she used may be a bit less constricted than the normal French 'j', although I'm not entirely sure.
The English 'j' consists of two sounds: a 'd' and a 'j' (as in the French j or the 's' in 'treasure'). Spanish does not have this phoneme and is it often difficult for them to pronounce it so their realization is often closer to the French 'j'. I listened to this multiple times, and the sound is certainly voiced, as the 'j' would be. An 'sh' sound is the same sound, but is unvoiced.
What? It's completely obvious. Are you a native speaker of English?
There's absolutely no reason to believe that she's speaking Arabic. She doesn't speak English natively and thus spoke it with a non-native accent and prosody. Her saying "manage" makes complete sense. Come on.
Yes I'm a native speaker of English, and with the greatest respect, I cannot accept that this is a stuttering pronunciation of "manage". Everything but the initial phoneme is totally wrong.
I'm not claiming Ms. Argerich is fluent in Arabic, merely that it's a commonplace convenient Arabic-derived getout she might have picked up due to such evident linguistic talents.
If any phoneticists/arabists ever tune in here, I'm 100% confident that they'd side with me. Care to place a bet? :-)
I find all of the phonemes to be correct with how she pronounces the word the second time. As I said, the prosody differs, but this can be blamed on the fact that she's a non-native speaker. All of the phonemes seem correct to me. I'm soon to begin my third year in University studying both Spanish and Linguistics. What may be messing you up is that the last sound is a bit different than the English 'j'.
Can we respectfully agree to disagree? I don't think it's that obvious at all!
I'm getting on a bit but my hearing hasn't started to fail yet. There's definitely three syllables here, not two, and it sounds exactly like ma'alaysh - a common colloquial Arabic catch-all interjection that translates as something like "never mind, don't worry about it" or even "sorry, excuse me". I suspect her using it is the reason for the big giggle.
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of course she is sexy and talented, but seriously i would not go anywhere near a woman of such temperament. 3 husbands speaks for itself, and i also i beleive nowadays she has almost smoked herself to death even tho only 60 something. At that age a pianist such as John Lill is still functioning at his prime if not better. Life seems to reflect art- Lill, stable, intellectual, brilliant, conscienscously orthodox, Argerich- crazy, impulsive, just plain wrong at times, and..now.. half dead.
I think that is exactly what makes her music so exciting - because it is so unpredictable and not calculated. There's no way in which you can talk about art/music in terms of right and wrong. What you consider the "right way" might be for others plain boring etc...
i think there can be right and wrong in music, for example if a pianist pedals so much that clarity is lost, but i agree there is a lot of room for the unpredictable and spontaneous.
Another of her 3 husbands was Stephen Kovacevich. She's like 67 now dude and has 3 grown kids, don't waste your time, but she WAS very fly back in the 60s n stuff.
What a beast.or a monster.. (of course in the nice meaning of that expression) What a mega-technique...of course musically it was an exageration to play at that spedd. . Well "Martita" was a little carzy woman but so passionate and a real greaty artist. Just genial.
it shows. maybe that's why so much of her playing seems strangely frantic and sketchy. she's like an artist who rushes off a sketch, admittedly with lots of beauty and character, but it always feels like a sketch, whereas another artist will take great pains and plan and put together carefully crafted lines and solid colours.
I agree there are times where she rushes a lot, and obviously she admits that she prepaires pieces right before the deadline, but I don't think you can say she's being sketchy in, for example Ravel concerto 2nd movement or the mozart in the interview clip, there I see a side in her that is extremely soulful and sensitive, where she lives the music in a very magical way.
que bestia esta mujer..en el buen sentido de la palabra. Que tal mega técnica....solo que musicalmente ya se pasó de exagerada para tocar a ese tiempo. Bueno martita siempre fue un poco alocadita a veces. Muy apasionada, pero gran artista. Genial
To the admirers of pianists with emphirical technique, as Pogorelich, Kissin, lang lang ( sorry he is a monkey pianist), etc. She is a real great pianist since the musical and technicla point of view. She has one of most rational and gigantic tehcniques on this world.
what do you mean empirical technique? Martha's movement is very economical, I agree but I think Pogorelich's is economical, as well. For instance, check out the videos of him performing the englische suiten. Of course, you seem like you know what you are talking about, however I think that Pogorelich doesnt have any technical limitations. Sorry, as you may have noticed, I'm an admirer of his.
Pogorelich technique is a disaster. What happen is he is gifted, but the porblem is: How many moer years he could play without problñemsor a forearms cramps with thta horrendous technique? he plays near to the keyboard, Thtás true, but that is not all concerning techqnique. His fingers are terrible contracted and stiff. hsi position is realtively low Ok, but even to play a single note he put tension from his shoulder up to his fingers. Look at his 2nd left ..to continue..
continuing...finger...how he rise that finger when he play the octaves. Compare the octaves playing of Argerich. Technically she is completely superior. Poor Pogorelich, because i think he is a fine musician, but unfortunately as many Russian teachers(i had two), they are very eclectic for technical concepts. They make you play, but sometimes not in the best way. I know it very well. Fortunately when i arrive to NY, ..to continue..
contionuing... my technique was already solid. I just was working repertoire.
Is incredible why in these times of lots of technology, piano technique remain still very emphiric for most pianists? How is possible a terrible book for piano `playing as "The principles rationalles pour la technique pianistique" from Cortot is still in the music shops?? Corto was a great musician, but his theory of piano playing is the most absurde thing. Most of his great pupils were already pianists..to continue.
I think ivo's finger position also has to do with his hands, they are very large, that's why he has to curl his fingers more than the avg. pianist. To say that his technique is horrible is absurd. His technique is brilliant. There are different approaches, there's no such thing as the "right" approach. By the way, you do know that Argerich declared Ivo to be a genius at the 1980 Chopin competition? So, it seems that she doesnt have any issues with his technique. Game. Set. Match.
Not at all. Unfortunwetaly make a disertation about technique via internet is almost impossible, but believe me por Pogorelich form the technical side. Martha said he is a genious, i the musical sense. Concerning it, despite Marthás technique is super rational, sometimes she back pianists who are no really a great deal like Sergio tiempo and alos Kissin who is playi ng worst in the last years.
Without supreme technique one can't express one's musical sense, especially at Pogo's level. Anyway, it's pointless to debate something that is subjective, each person will always stick to their opinion. Technique's purpose is to serve the music, on it's own it only provides a primitive form of pleasure.
she probably liked him in other ways besides his playing. His name as Ivor Pogorevic, she said he was a genius, the other jurors didn't agree. The majority view is usually right especially if all are respected professionals.
OMFG! those octaves at the very end just blew me away! I've never seen/heard anything like that before! she is really one of the greatest piano players ever.
quien habra sido el afortunado hombre que gano tu corazon,realmente sos una mujer completa y me enorgullece saber que viviste en mi pais.gracias por el arte.
-Demasiado rápidas, recuerdo que mientras dirigía pensaba "no estaré yendo demasiado rápido para Martha" luego pensé "no vayas demasiado rápido".
-Tengo algo con las octavas. Si estoy escuchando que llega. Después pienso "uh, qué voy a hacer?". Y me pongo nerviosa, y en lugar de... porque no tengo miedo a la velocidad, todo lo contrario. La velocidad es mi problema.
- ----.Bueno, no quiero interrumpirte, contame cómo terminó la historia.
-Luego llegamos, muy tarde.----.---. Y tuvimos el ensayo y fue un desastre. Y luego simplemente me colapsé, y dije bueno, encuéntrenme un lugar (esta última oración nunca la entiendo).Y no sé lo que pasó. No tengo idea.
-¿Cómo te arreglás para tener tres hijos y una carrera internacional?
La oración es "Ok, finally i played, and i don't know what happened i have not idea". Así que quedaría:"colapsé y entonces..., bueno, al final toqué, y no sé lo que pasó, no tengo idea.
-El primer y el único ensayo.----.---.----.Nadie te cree en realidad. Todo el mundo piensa que es algo que deberías haber tocado toda tu vida. Porque es un concierto tan popular. Todo el mundo piensa bueno, debe haberlo tocado antes, pero no, ¡era la primera vez!
Y yo estaba haciendo todo lo posible para no llegar: quería parar, tenía que tomar algo, tenía que comer algo, luego quería... No quería que llegara. Y luego llegó la policía, porque él se estaba apurando demasiado. Él estaba totalmente dispuesto a llegar al ensayo. Entonces llegó la policía, por la velocidad.---.Algo increíble!
-La mayoría de la gente no se da cuenta de lo que significa aprender ese concierto en tres semanas.
-Sí, si querés que te diga estaba aterrada, además. No sólo por eso, sino otras cosas. Dos días después, tenía que tocar otro concierto por segunda vez.----. Y realmente fue algo que... no recuerdo cómo hice. Fuimos Charles, mi ex marido, teníamos un auto muy lindo y rápido, y había que llegar al ensayo a las dos de la tarde, creo.
-Sí, en realidad no tenía por qué, es mi culpa, porque voy dejando las cosas para último momento, y porque tengo que hacer otras cosas también, supongo, no sé, no sé por qué pasa. No soy muy organizada, en realidad. Y lo tuve que aprender en tres semanas. En el medio de otras cosas, también.
Wow, she really has quite a playful personality. Just seeing her beautiful face in pictures and hearing her amazing playing, I would have thought she'd be quite serious and perhaps even opinionated. But she doesn't seem to take herself seriously at all....rather unselfconscious in a delightful way. Is it just me or is she also slightly flirtatious?
What a gorgeous woman - she's my pianistic role model! Haha. Is it just me or does it seem like she plays from the forearms, or at least with tremendous strength not involving excessive movement from the upper body? Because for me, I can only seem to achieve that by playing from the forearms which gets me very tight and uncomfortable...what IS the secret of her mad technique?!
I think it probably looks like she plays from her forearms because there isn't excessive movement in her upper arms. She would actually be using strength from the muscles in her back.
Or maybe she has just really strong hands and don't need a lot of pushing or assiting from the arms at all??? Well, i've read that the gemini's body part is arms, so no wonder her arms are so noticable!
No... this the problem most people involved in piano have all times when somebody is playing just with a PERFECT technique. if you observe Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli you will observe very similar technique. Something happens with Pollini and with Rubinstein also...with some exceptions which were when he wanted to made a joke with teh audience, like his histrionic palyiong of "Danza Ritual del Fuego" from Manuel De Falla. Of course are some more pianists who play in that way too. To continue..
continuing...uhmm i forgot to mention Fiedrich Gulda too..Well.. those pianists have a similar technical aproach. Contrary to the tipical Russian school (with the exception of Samuil Feimberg)who based the piano learning (from the technical side) in some kind of movements and tradition who imitates many things form old pianists. Of course most of this movements, attitude, etc. to continue..
continuing....match with the talented pianists who can play mostly in any way, and never asking the teacher WHY is that movement...why is that fingering..why is that prhasing..why anything. Just silence and practice. In that way russia made many famous pianists. BTW i studied at Mannes college, and Juilliard, with two very famous pianists to continue..
continuing..BUT fortunately i had my technique already built with an exceptional (from the technical side) teacher who belong to a group of musicians very interested in make a CEREBRAL and scientific aproach of piano playing. well.. Martha Argerich comes from a technical school of a very famous italian teacher who´s name was Vincente Scaramuzza. he carry the pianist tradition of Busoni who BTW was a technician wizard (Rubinstein words)..to continue..
@karadiberlino .. Faggy comment dude! Can't you see she's SEXY
malit1234 2 weeks ago
What's the name of the concert that she's playing?
andreea140794 4 months ago
@andreea140794 Tchaikovsky piano concerto #1
nimh1988 4 months ago
She was unbelievably beautiful. And such a talented pianist. Wonderful !!
Eztoez 5 months ago
awesome moment at the very end when from super speed she changes to slow....i thought the movie was playing faster!
charinetta 7 months ago
Ugh, that made less sense than I'd hoped. It was written on a mobile, sorry :(
RH98 7 months ago
I gotta say that in England at least (not sure bout other dialects) that the sentence she said with two manages is totally legitimate. It's like a sort of subtle joke, which is bloody impossible to explain, but people would know where you were coming from nonetheless.
RH98 7 months ago
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Boring. Boring. Boring.
She is very good at the piano, but has nothing to say.
And that old fart is thinking only one thing: "I want to fuck her. I want to fuck her. & so on..." Yawn, time 4 bed...
karadiberlino 7 months ago
The reason she says "manage" twice is because the first time, she is using it in a direct context, and the second in the idiomatic context of the question asked her. You can hear the breath she takes before the first "manage," indicating a change of meaning. Her statement in other words is: "Well, it's not like I actually divide up my time between fame and family; it just all pretty much works out, you know?" (The details of how it works out are difficult to explain and are rather insignificant)
pianoandvideogames 9 months ago
It seems pretty blatantly obvious that she's saying "manage". Not only does it fit the context, but also the way she's saying the sentence, her tone, the emphasis, etc. And anyway, somehow throwing Arabic word into an otherwise completely English sentence seems a little implausible.
mmoynan 11 months ago
She's saying "manage." It's just her accent, jesus christ. English isn't her native language.
angelfuree 11 months ago
MFW her gestures remind me of Boxxy...
Cherenkeke100 11 months ago
Why all the discussion about if she says "manage" or something else? Her laugh is pure MAGIC.
oioioi1234 1 year ago 3
do you know when was the Tchaikovsky 1st piano concerto recorded in this interview ?
or which year is this interview dated ?
anw, i love Martha Argerich :x
khongcothithoi 1 year ago
I think she does say "manage". If she meant "I'm sorry", then she would not have said "but". I think she's trying to say that she doesn't consciously do anything to manage, but somehow everything works out. So that would mean it's okay to use two "manages" in a sentence.
LordCalvinHastings 1 year ago
Dude seriously. It's so obvious that she says manage. Not only because it sounds like manage, but also because she (undoubtedly) uses that word like three or four times in the same sentence. Also, I never heard an "L" being pronounced and instead heard an "N". I don't doubt that you are a very intelligent man, but go get your ears checked or something --__--
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*grin*
Groves seems like a very urbane fellow, but he's doing a very poor job of concealing his lust.
I'm sure I'd be quite unequal to the task myself.
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*grin*
Groves seems like a very urbane fellow, but he's doing a very poor job of concealing his lust.
I'm sure I'd be quite unequal to the task myself.
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polymath7 1 year ago
Shes says manage not ma'alaysh
derek44344 1 year ago 4
pardon my ignorance but why do you think she's saying ma'alaysh? Does Martha speak Arabic? (she is Argentine - yes I know she's fluent in Portuguese, Spanish, French, German, English also...). It's highly unlikely that she's using an Arabic word! She is clearly saying "manage", especially as it was the word used in the question to her!
cymro89 1 year ago 2
a beautiful woman in so many aspects
3xWink 1 year ago
The idea that Argerich is speaking Arabic is just ludicrous.
TinnekeB 1 year ago
Great! I've really enjoyed watching this, thank you!
silver0alix 1 year ago
Please... dont speak any more about the origins... she is Argentine... not Croatian or Jewish or Brazilian... shhhhh!!! Just Argentine!!!
GABMER 1 year ago 3
And she is also Jewish !!!!!!!
which makes us so proud !!!
We love you so much words just cannot express, dear Martha.
honghongbcc 1 year ago
It's wonderful to see this piano titan, one of the few truly great pianists still alive, giggling and blushing like a little school girl. What an extraordinary woman. Even at nearly seventy, I still have a crush on her.
evolve749 2 years ago 28
shes a machine
chutdigadut 2 years ago 2
she lovely
lens2optic 2 years ago 2
04:59! "What?! Am I too fast?!" :D
lejni 2 years ago 6
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lejni 2 years ago
I LIKE HER A LOT INDEEED
ponte34 2 years ago
beautiful Martha!
gusti1021 2 years ago
She is so charming and adorable. I love to watch her perform. Some people possess this magical quality that is truly magnetic, and she is one of them.
malloryg9 2 years ago 2
she was always amazing smart focused.she can do anything itsall always been like this.always coloured always diff dynamics why cant other pianists do this. she' starts the octaves 2 as fast at tempo she leaves orchestra.she is so fasinee.thats her problem too mechanics,icant imagine wht she must work on.few woman have ever had her strenght Hess did.
lovesGenet 2 years ago
Hotness!
Selmer2222 2 years ago 2
I think she says "manage", because Groves said "How do you manage"...sounds a little like ma'alaiysh but in this context in doesn't make so much sense.
orannisthedestroyer 2 years ago
Wow,
Love seeing Charles Groves.He was one of du Pre's favorite conductors.
musikgirl1 2 years ago
omg.... the 8vas series just finishing O.o!!!!!
erickalk 2 years ago
God she's sexy, at least in 1970 or whenever this was. If I were around then, I would want her to have all my babies.
TwinkieHaven 2 years ago 7
YES
joznick1 2 years ago
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yep i had a brazilian beauty like her and she had my babies!!!!!!!!!!
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gusti1021 2 years ago
WTF does this have to do with Martha Argerich?? She is not brazilian, and she is UNIQUE.
gusti1021 2 years ago
I can write what i like so STFU!
afertyus1000 2 years ago
you are right. Please! keep making stupid comments...
gusti1021 2 years ago
touche!
afertyus1000 2 years ago
up your junta! argie bargies
afertyus1000 2 years ago
Yes! she is unique and she is Argentine! not brazilian, Argentine! 100% Argentine! cough cough cough!, sorry! cough cough cough!
Arminevh 2 years ago
@Arminevh She's croatian also:) and the greatest pianist in the world.
Ellinidara 2 years ago
Argentine of Croatian origins, the result: talent beauty and character =D
Arminevh 2 years ago
I saw Martha perform Prokofiev 3 in London last Monday... an exquisite performance as always.
I met her by chance that evening too as I was leaving a restaurant near the hall... she was charming and graceful, chatting and laughing, even taking an interest in my playing; an unforgettable experience.
LIFEISACAB 2 years ago
hi where can i find the whole interview video? thanks
jvmalfi 2 years ago
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razzigirl 2 years ago
she's sooooo sexy....
sebastianlara 2 years ago 7
And if you're having a hard time listening, she's answering his question, "How do you manage with having children and an international career?"
Her answer is: "I really don't know. Basically I don't manage, but somehow I manage." A few seconds later she repeats it again, saying "somehow I manage."
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I must respectfully continue to disagree. I have no idea how a young Ms. Argerich might have picked up the expression, but I believe she's saying "I really don't know. Basically I don't, MA'ALAYSH, but somehow I manage." Would such an intelligent woman repeat "manage" within the space of five words?
I think I'm going to have to extract, loop and post that half second of utterance, and see how many remain happy to change an unfamiliar sequence of phones into a familiar word.
mnemonyzz 3 years ago
To be truthful I think she says 'manage', twice, which is probably why she laughs, because repetition of a same word can be humorous. Also why would she insert a colloquial arab word while speaking in english? I know in Spanish, there are quite a few arab expressions (for exampl Ojala) but you would only say them in spanish and not say them while speaking in english.
ecko1o1 2 years ago
She's an Argentine. Her mother tongue is Spanish, why on earth would she not revert to a Spanish expression ? Your reasoning is flawed!
fsharpmajor 2 years ago 2
It doesn't even sound like MA'ALAYSH
lscully2 2 years ago
I agree with you, many of my friends are Arabs (living in Israel), I am well familiar with the word Ma'aleish....I use is it quite often but she dedinitely does not say that....not even close. Anyway, she's adorable...what can I say, one of the greatest (and modest) pianists in our era
11sage 2 years ago
@mnemonyzz How CAN this have become a discussion about Arabic expression is quite beyond me. Of COURSE she said, "Basically I don't manage, but somehow I manage." Repeating words has nothing to do with intelligence or lack thereof. A native speaker of English MIGHT have said, "Basically I don't manage, but somehow I do." But then she'd be repeating "do", wouldn't she?
DoctorPlausible 1 year ago
@mnemonyzz
I.
I'm sorry but that's an exceedingly thin speculation. Actually no, it's not even thin, it's conjured out of thin air (forgive me for being so blunt).
"Would such an intelligent woman repeat 'manage'....?"
I think it far from implausible that such an intelligent woman might employ a figure of speech known as epanalepsis. It's when a word is repeated in successive clauses for rhetorical effect (as I did in my second sentence).
Here, Martha appears to be...
(con.)
polymath7 1 year ago
II
...altering the tone in which she pronounces "manage" in order to use the word somewhat equivocally and convey a sense of self-deprecating irony, as if to say "I don't actually manage *well*, but I suppose I manage *satisfactorily*.
She even giggles to punctuate the irony, and this all strikes me as entirely self-evident.
I mean really, where's the mystery here?
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 well I completely disagree. You miss the point here. she obviously means that she doesn't have to manage in the sense that she doesn't need to be organized to do things. and she speaks about her attitude towards life in general. this woman was/is so bright, she doesn't have to take the time to think about the most proper way to do things right. She says "manage" in the sense that she survives. She does it though she doesn't know how she does it.
MrLacidaremlamano 1 year ago
@polymath7 And also: take a look at the glance she casts at the piano when she says that she learned the concerto in three weeks, " in the middle of other things as well". That glance means: "I don't know how I do it and I'm even a little scared about that ability" Martha Argerich is amazingly talented.
MrLacidaremlamano 1 year ago
@polymath7 No mystery. Idolaters performing theology on the interview.
hymnofashes 1 year ago
@mnemonyzz It's "manage". If you shut out all external sounds (I use a high-quality set of headphones), it's very clear. It's not really close to the Arabic pronunciation of "Ma'alaysh", and it wouldn't make sense for her to say "never mind" there. Of course, you're welcome to continue to believe that she said "Ma'alaysh", but I don't even know where she would have gotten "Ma'alaysh" from, let alone felt like using it.
TomBarrister 1 year ago
@faraz1729 Hello once again, Faraz.
I like your most recent channel design. Few things are easier on the eyes than a clear picture of the young Martha.
polymath7 1 year ago
mnemonyzz,
What is "ma'alaysh?"
faraz1729 3 years ago
ma'alaysh (معليش) is a very common colloquial Arabic interjection. Tricky to translate, but semantic import centres around "excuse me" - "sorry" - "oh well" - "never mind".
mnemonyzz 3 years ago
Thanks for the definition.
I respectfully disagree as well.
faraz1729 3 years ago
*merci
ChocolateCeik 3 years ago
I had the honour to be part of the nursing team that cared for Sir Charles...What a wonderful man . God Rest x...
Pieman1900 3 years ago
with her, it´s esay to fall in love quicly, I love you Martha Argerich. Thank you so much because you play the piano like i never seen before on my whole life. I don´t about music but sometimes i just see the piano playing alone. Bacio per te Marta
Napoteco 3 years ago
La, Martha ma'am t'oul "ma'laysh....
No, Martha isn`t saying "ma'laysh
Yes, I believe you're an intelligent guy, I'm glad for you, you just either need a hearing test or somewhere far more relevent to boast your command of Arabic!!
FreddysHamster 3 years ago
Thanks for your input, sir. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but still await a translation rather than an ignoring of that brief but well-articulated utterance.
مع سلامة
mnemonyzz 3 years ago
@mnemonyzz has to be the stupidest conversation i've ever stumbled upon while watching an argerich clip...
ANYWAY, martha's an absolute doll. the last 20 seconds of this clip blew me away.
oitotheworld23 8 months ago
Love Live Martha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
laqin007 3 years ago
that's tchaik 1, no?
matrix1590 3 years ago
I'm gay, but I just love her, I'm in love!!
nazhiitoxx 3 years ago 5
.... and I'm straight, but I love her too!
Stand in line! lol...
ikshields 3 years ago
so long as it's not behind me lol!
afertyus1000 2 years ago
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is she dead?
iPikee 3 years ago
No!!! she is not dead.
zopqwe 3 years ago
Ok it's just a question dont get mad. dang... Does she still play? and are there any newly updated videos of her? if so please copy and post the link in the reply box.
iPikee 3 years ago
Watch my channel :-)
FreddysHamster 3 years ago
I think that is a ligitimate question I'm not sure why people give you the thumbs down.... . She is in my estimation the most exciting pianist alive. Very "Horowitzian" musicianship.
tnmtemerity 3 years ago
É uma senhora muito bonita, mas quando jovem era linda!!! Além de ser uma pianista simplesmente maravilhosa.
AFSS30 3 years ago
Anyway it seems clear for me that she says manage.
zopqwe 3 years ago
guardmemberswill I am from Argentina myself and i must say that tohugh it's true that the 'sh' sound is in our phonemic inventory, nobody uses it (which is terrible and gives you an idea of argentinian people). Instead of, most people uses the y, even when they speak in english. For example instead of saying shake, they say yake. Another thing i have to say is that the way Martha speaks english is very strange for an argentinian, sometimes i don't understand what she says.
zopqwe 3 years ago
Well the point of that analysis is that when you listen to her say it the second time, she still seems to elide the 'd' part of it to some extent. The previous one was said under "more emotional" circumstances, when she was less likely to concentrate on proper pronunciation.
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
It certainly makes sense that she knows Spanish, French, and English, as many educated people in her region would, but the chance that she would use a colloquial Arabic phrase in such a way is extremely unlikely. Not to mention the fact that it would be presumptuous for it to be used in normal English conversation, as most English speakers wouldn't know it.
In the end, I'm absolutely certain she's saying 'manage'.
Read these posts backwards for the correct ordering.
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
Posts show up right order in "all comments" view. Thanks for the phonetic analysis from a Spanish point of view. But it seems irrelevant, as she demonstrates perfect competence with a standard english "manage" before and after. Why is this utterance so different?
Afraid I'm still absolutely convinced she's saying ma'alaysh.
Maybe I'll try extracting the relevant bit of audio and posting to a specialist forum to see what neutrals think.
Thanks again for the interest and input.
mnemonyxx2 3 years ago
As she is from Buenos Aires, Argentina, she would have no difficulty pronouncing the 'sh' sound, as that sound is in their phonemic inventory. Also, the 'j' that she used may be a bit less constricted than the normal French 'j', although I'm not entirely sure.
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
The English 'j' consists of two sounds: a 'd' and a 'j' (as in the French j or the 's' in 'treasure'). Spanish does not have this phoneme and is it often difficult for them to pronounce it so their realization is often closer to the French 'j'. I listened to this multiple times, and the sound is certainly voiced, as the 'j' would be. An 'sh' sound is the same sound, but is unvoiced.
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
What? It's completely obvious. Are you a native speaker of English?
There's absolutely no reason to believe that she's speaking Arabic. She doesn't speak English natively and thus spoke it with a non-native accent and prosody. Her saying "manage" makes complete sense. Come on.
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
Yes I'm a native speaker of English, and with the greatest respect, I cannot accept that this is a stuttering pronunciation of "manage". Everything but the initial phoneme is totally wrong.
I'm not claiming Ms. Argerich is fluent in Arabic, merely that it's a commonplace convenient Arabic-derived getout she might have picked up due to such evident linguistic talents.
If any phoneticists/arabists ever tune in here, I'm 100% confident that they'd side with me. Care to place a bet? :-)
mnemonyxx2 3 years ago
I find all of the phonemes to be correct with how she pronounces the word the second time. As I said, the prosody differs, but this can be blamed on the fact that she's a non-native speaker. All of the phonemes seem correct to me. I'm soon to begin my third year in University studying both Spanish and Linguistics. What may be messing you up is that the last sound is a bit different than the English 'j'.
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
She said "manage".
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
No, the bit between "basically I don't" and "but somehow I manage".
mnemonyxx 3 years ago
Exactly she says "Basically I don't... manage, but somehow I manage." It's obviously that.
guardmemberswill 3 years ago
Can we respectfully agree to disagree? I don't think it's that obvious at all!
I'm getting on a bit but my hearing hasn't started to fail yet. There's definitely three syllables here, not two, and it sounds exactly like ma'alaysh - a common colloquial Arabic catch-all interjection that translates as something like "never mind, don't worry about it" or even "sorry, excuse me". I suspect her using it is the reason for the big giggle.
Many thanks for commenting.
mnemonyxx2 3 years ago
She's a genius! No question! Learned the concerto in three weeks!
I am committing suicide! I feel like a pathetic loser!!
aldebussy 3 years ago
She knows 3 billion languages!
Genius!
aldebussy 3 years ago
ok, i'll look out for it!
englishplayer40 3 years ago
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of course she is sexy and talented, but seriously i would not go anywhere near a woman of such temperament. 3 husbands speaks for itself, and i also i beleive nowadays she has almost smoked herself to death even tho only 60 something. At that age a pianist such as John Lill is still functioning at his prime if not better. Life seems to reflect art- Lill, stable, intellectual, brilliant, conscienscously orthodox, Argerich- crazy, impulsive, just plain wrong at times, and..now.. half dead.
englishplayer40 3 years ago
I think that is exactly what makes her music so exciting - because it is so unpredictable and not calculated. There's no way in which you can talk about art/music in terms of right and wrong. What you consider the "right way" might be for others plain boring etc...
Nataliena 3 years ago 2
i think there can be right and wrong in music, for example if a pianist pedals so much that clarity is lost, but i agree there is a lot of room for the unpredictable and spontaneous.
englishplayer40 3 years ago
half dead? you should see her blazing the prokofiev piano concerto at her current age!!
Nataliena 3 years ago 3
Plus she's still looking beautiful for her age!
gc65531941 3 years ago
yes you are dead right,i saw john lill recently in concert,what a fantastic performer
i would've had my wicked way with her when she was younger but marriage? out of the question,she reminds me of an ex [without the talent]
afertyus1000 2 years ago
@englishplayer40 "half dead"?... Martha Argerich is not afraid of death; death is afraid of Martha Argerich.
RH98 6 months ago 3
What an amazing woman.. I'm just born too late..
Ghostbiker83 3 years ago 3
She's an amazing woman!so does her music!Her speed,her power~~~wow! And I have to say she was beautiful and charming.
Does anyone know who's her husband?
xuqi20xuqi 3 years ago
One of her ex-husbands is the conductor, Charles Dutoit (to whom she referred in the interview).
moxienyc9887 3 years ago
Another of her 3 husbands was Stephen Kovacevich. She's like 67 now dude and has 3 grown kids, don't waste your time, but she WAS very fly back in the 60s n stuff.
5stringofFernandoSor 3 years ago
I'd give my whole life to be 10% as good as you are... such an inspiration to the whole world and to me :) .. I LOVE YOU!
szuhalpno 4 years ago
In english:
What a beast.or a monster.. (of course in the nice meaning of that expression) What a mega-technique...of course musically it was an exageration to play at that spedd. . Well "Martita" was a little carzy woman but so passionate and a real greaty artist. Just genial.
ytpiano7
ytpiano7 4 years ago
Madness is Genius.
BTW, she says she gets nervous before octaves???!! :o
craig7233 3 years ago
it shows. maybe that's why so much of her playing seems strangely frantic and sketchy. she's like an artist who rushes off a sketch, admittedly with lots of beauty and character, but it always feels like a sketch, whereas another artist will take great pains and plan and put together carefully crafted lines and solid colours.
englishplayer40 3 years ago
I agree there are times where she rushes a lot, and obviously she admits that she prepaires pieces right before the deadline, but I don't think you can say she's being sketchy in, for example Ravel concerto 2nd movement or the mozart in the interview clip, there I see a side in her that is extremely soulful and sensitive, where she lives the music in a very magical way.
Nataliena 3 years ago
que bestia esta mujer..en el buen sentido de la palabra. Que tal mega técnica....solo que musicalmente ya se pasó de exagerada para tocar a ese tiempo. Bueno martita siempre fue un poco alocadita a veces. Muy apasionada, pero gran artista. Genial
ytppiano7
ytpiano7 4 years ago
taba buena
miguellorenaylaura 4 years ago
To the admirers of pianists with emphirical technique, as Pogorelich, Kissin, lang lang ( sorry he is a monkey pianist), etc. She is a real great pianist since the musical and technicla point of view. She has one of most rational and gigantic tehcniques on this world.
ytpiano7
ytpiano7 4 years ago
what do you mean empirical technique? Martha's movement is very economical, I agree but I think Pogorelich's is economical, as well. For instance, check out the videos of him performing the englische suiten. Of course, you seem like you know what you are talking about, however I think that Pogorelich doesnt have any technical limitations. Sorry, as you may have noticed, I'm an admirer of his.
Pogouldiwitz 4 years ago
Not at all.
Pogorelich technique is a disaster. What happen is he is gifted, but the porblem is: How many moer years he could play without problñemsor a forearms cramps with thta horrendous technique? he plays near to the keyboard, Thtás true, but that is not all concerning techqnique. His fingers are terrible contracted and stiff. hsi position is realtively low Ok, but even to play a single note he put tension from his shoulder up to his fingers. Look at his 2nd left ..to continue..
ytpiano7 4 years ago
continuing...finger...how he rise that finger when he play the octaves. Compare the octaves playing of Argerich. Technically she is completely superior. Poor Pogorelich, because i think he is a fine musician, but unfortunately as many Russian teachers(i had two), they are very eclectic for technical concepts. They make you play, but sometimes not in the best way. I know it very well. Fortunately when i arrive to NY, ..to continue..
ytpiano7 4 years ago
contionuing... my technique was already solid. I just was working repertoire.
Is incredible why in these times of lots of technology, piano technique remain still very emphiric for most pianists? How is possible a terrible book for piano `playing as "The principles rationalles pour la technique pianistique" from Cortot is still in the music shops?? Corto was a great musician, but his theory of piano playing is the most absurde thing. Most of his great pupils were already pianists..to continue.
ytpiano7 4 years ago
continuing...when came to him. As an example Dinu Lipatti...he was already a famous pianists when he took lessons with Cortot.
ytpiano7
ytpiano7 4 years ago
I think ivo's finger position also has to do with his hands, they are very large, that's why he has to curl his fingers more than the avg. pianist. To say that his technique is horrible is absurd. His technique is brilliant. There are different approaches, there's no such thing as the "right" approach. By the way, you do know that Argerich declared Ivo to be a genius at the 1980 Chopin competition? So, it seems that she doesnt have any issues with his technique. Game. Set. Match.
Pogouldiwitz
Pogouldiwitz 4 years ago
Not at all. Unfortunwetaly make a disertation about technique via internet is almost impossible, but believe me por Pogorelich form the technical side. Martha said he is a genious, i the musical sense. Concerning it, despite Marthás technique is super rational, sometimes she back pianists who are no really a great deal like Sergio tiempo and alos Kissin who is playi ng worst in the last years.
ytpiano7
ytpiano7 4 years ago
Without supreme technique one can't express one's musical sense, especially at Pogo's level. Anyway, it's pointless to debate something that is subjective, each person will always stick to their opinion. Technique's purpose is to serve the music, on it's own it only provides a primitive form of pleasure.
Pogouldiwitz.
Pogouldiwitz 4 years ago
And she left the jury in protest when he was not declared the winner.
5stringofFernandoSor 3 years ago
she left because he wasn't admited to the semi-final, not because he wasn't the winner
Masmorra84 3 years ago
she probably liked him in other ways besides his playing. His name as Ivor Pogorevic, she said he was a genius, the other jurors didn't agree. The majority view is usually right especially if all are respected professionals.
englishplayer40 3 years ago
OMFG! those octaves at the very end just blew me away! I've never seen/heard anything like that before! she is really one of the greatest piano players ever.
madashelldude 4 years ago
She's very talented playing the piano, and speaking French, English and Spanish.
Baremboin also, he speaks five languages =D
0OoFACUoO0 4 years ago
baremboim also speak too much.
ytpiano7
ytpiano7 4 years ago
She was SO HOT!!! And Cute!!
OscarGeronimo 4 years ago
And furious when playing the piano!
jannokas85 4 years ago
such an attractive personality.
realityliving2 4 years ago
I never knew that Colonel Sanders was a conductor as well as a chicken chef.
hotchica257 4 years ago 5
WHAT year is this??? She looks about 16 years old and he says she already has babies??? I'm baffled...
jannokas85 4 years ago
quien habra sido el afortunado hombre que gano tu corazon,realmente sos una mujer completa y me enorgullece saber que viviste en mi pais.gracias por el arte.
marasmo65 4 years ago
plz respect others even you don't like her style
to: the infantile and presumptuous and fatuous people who call others bitches, you're too young
zzrsupericeman 4 years ago
Are you kidding!? Her octaves!!!!! Disturbingly amazing!!!
sergeidave 4 years ago
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Martha can be a bitch if she wants to.
bourdour 4 years ago
Oh lah-dee-dah...isn't it the case with everyone???
jannokas85 4 years ago
Je t'aime!
tubeleonardo 4 years ago
-Demasiado rápidas, recuerdo que mientras dirigía pensaba "no estaré yendo demasiado rápido para Martha" luego pensé "no vayas demasiado rápido".
-Tengo algo con las octavas. Si estoy escuchando que llega. Después pienso "uh, qué voy a hacer?". Y me pongo nerviosa, y en lugar de... porque no tengo miedo a la velocidad, todo lo contrario. La velocidad es mi problema.
-Sí, totalmente de acuerdo.
tusan15288 4 years ago
-Volviendo a Tchaikovsky, hay algunos puntos que quisiera destacar. Sabés que tus octavas...
-Aah sí, ¡El tempo anterior!
tusan15288 4 years ago
-Realmente no lo sé. En realidad no me arreglo, pero de alguna manera me arreglo. Soy muy desorganizada.
-Y te las arreglás para (ver?) a tus hijas?
-Sí, un montón.---. cuando llega la escuela es más difícil. Pero de alguna manera me arreglo.
-Pero no estás desorganizada por tus hijas, lo estarías también con la carrera únicamente.
-(??)Hubo un momento en el que estaba en japón.----. No nos veíamos nunca. Pero de alguna manera sobrevivimos.
tusan15288 4 years ago
- ----.Bueno, no quiero interrumpirte, contame cómo terminó la historia.
-Luego llegamos, muy tarde.----.---. Y tuvimos el ensayo y fue un desastre. Y luego simplemente me colapsé, y dije bueno, encuéntrenme un lugar (esta última oración nunca la entiendo).Y no sé lo que pasó. No tengo idea.
-¿Cómo te arreglás para tener tres hijos y una carrera internacional?
tusan15288 4 years ago
La oración es "Ok, finally i played, and i don't know what happened i have not idea". Así que quedaría:"colapsé y entonces..., bueno, al final toqué, y no sé lo que pasó, no tengo idea.
zopqwe 3 years ago
-El primer y el único ensayo.----.---.----.Nadie te cree en realidad. Todo el mundo piensa que es algo que deberías haber tocado toda tu vida. Porque es un concierto tan popular. Todo el mundo piensa bueno, debe haberlo tocado antes, pero no, ¡era la primera vez!
tusan15288 4 years ago
Y yo estaba haciendo todo lo posible para no llegar: quería parar, tenía que tomar algo, tenía que comer algo, luego quería... No quería que llegara. Y luego llegó la policía, porque él se estaba apurando demasiado. Él estaba totalmente dispuesto a llegar al ensayo. Entonces llegó la policía, por la velocidad.---.Algo increíble!
-Y ese fue el primer ensayo..
tusan15288 4 years ago
-La mayoría de la gente no se da cuenta de lo que significa aprender ese concierto en tres semanas.
-Sí, si querés que te diga estaba aterrada, además. No sólo por eso, sino otras cosas. Dos días después, tenía que tocar otro concierto por segunda vez.----. Y realmente fue algo que... no recuerdo cómo hice. Fuimos Charles, mi ex marido, teníamos un auto muy lindo y rápido, y había que llegar al ensayo a las dos de la tarde, creo.
tusan15288 4 years ago
-Sí, en realidad no tenía por qué, es mi culpa, porque voy dejando las cosas para último momento, y porque tengo que hacer otras cosas también, supongo, no sé, no sé por qué pasa. No soy muy organizada, en realidad. Y lo tuve que aprender en tres semanas. En el medio de otras cosas, también.
tusan15288 4 years ago
Hay varias cosas qe faltan, pero lo importante creo que está:
-Empezaste a tocar el piano a una edad muy temprana; pero tu primera interpretación de este concierto fue no hace mucho tiempo.
-Sí, hace seis años, más o menos.
(discuten sobre la fecha exacta)
-Y no tuviste que aprenderlo muy rápido?
tusan15288 4 years ago
alguien que me diga quedice en castellano jaja
crucificado79 4 years ago
one more time ... i love this woman
uo12345678910 4 years ago
I just love how she says: "I have a thing about octaves..." ... lol quite an understatement there...
chineseporcupine 4 years ago
Wow, she really has quite a playful personality. Just seeing her beautiful face in pictures and hearing her amazing playing, I would have thought she'd be quite serious and perhaps even opinionated. But she doesn't seem to take herself seriously at all....rather unselfconscious in a delightful way. Is it just me or is she also slightly flirtatious?
formenlehre 4 years ago
"slightly?"
eppurs1muove 4 years ago
so I mean's - no, it's not just you.
eppurs1muove 4 years ago
What a gorgeous woman - she's my pianistic role model! Haha. Is it just me or does it seem like she plays from the forearms, or at least with tremendous strength not involving excessive movement from the upper body? Because for me, I can only seem to achieve that by playing from the forearms which gets me very tight and uncomfortable...what IS the secret of her mad technique?!
solveaproblem 4 years ago
I think it probably looks like she plays from her forearms because there isn't excessive movement in her upper arms. She would actually be using strength from the muscles in her back.
Tonedeaf101 4 years ago
Or maybe she has just really strong hands and don't need a lot of pushing or assiting from the arms at all??? Well, i've read that the gemini's body part is arms, so no wonder her arms are so noticable!
jannokas85 4 years ago
Martha Argerich's WHOLE body works in a beautifully coordinated way when she plays.
Burnsomatic 4 years ago
VERY well said!
jannokas85 4 years ago
No... this the problem most people involved in piano have all times when somebody is playing just with a PERFECT technique. if you observe Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli you will observe very similar technique. Something happens with Pollini and with Rubinstein also...with some exceptions which were when he wanted to made a joke with teh audience, like his histrionic palyiong of "Danza Ritual del Fuego" from Manuel De Falla. Of course are some more pianists who play in that way too. To continue..
ytpiano7 4 years ago
continuing...uhmm i forgot to mention Fiedrich Gulda too..Well.. those pianists have a similar technical aproach. Contrary to the tipical Russian school (with the exception of Samuil Feimberg)who based the piano learning (from the technical side) in some kind of movements and tradition who imitates many things form old pianists. Of course most of this movements, attitude, etc. to continue..
ytpiano7 4 years ago
continuing....match with the talented pianists who can play mostly in any way, and never asking the teacher WHY is that movement...why is that fingering..why is that prhasing..why anything. Just silence and practice. In that way russia made many famous pianists. BTW i studied at Mannes college, and Juilliard, with two very famous pianists to continue..
ytpiano7 4 years ago
continuing..BUT fortunately i had my technique already built with an exceptional (from the technical side) teacher who belong to a group of musicians very interested in make a CEREBRAL and scientific aproach of piano playing. well.. Martha Argerich comes from a technical school of a very famous italian teacher who´s name was Vincente Scaramuzza. he carry the pianist tradition of Busoni who BTW was a technician wizard (Rubinstein words)..to continue..
ytpiano7 4 years ago