The problem is that most motorists have never seen anything from a cyclist's point of view. Cyclists are at the mercy of the motorists. There should be stricter laws about this as well as more bike lanes. Us cyclists are doing the world a favor, don't penalize us
I know that it's SOP for people in the wrong to lie, lie some more, then blame the victim., so it couldn't be more gratifying to see this fucktard's own bus cams catching him in every one of his lies. I hope the driver got time for this and lost his license - y'know, like they'd do to, say, an attorney... And how sweet it would be if the real world caught up with the rest of the lying, clueless scum out there.
Lisa Stankovich, Flagstaff deputy city attorney said:
"“Since the bicyclist in this case was in a bike lane at the time of the alleged violation, and it is our opinion that a violation occurred, it is thus clear that we think the 3-foot rule applies in all situations when a vehicle overtakes a bicycle traveling in the same direction, whether in a bike lane or not,"
Cameras help the bus drive out in this. The law the cyclist refers to applies to a cyclist who is in a traffic lane. As the video shows he is riding like a dumb ass in the emergency lane almost on the line. If you want to reference a law maybe you should know what it means and what it pertains to. This would be a valid case if the (liberal) cyclist were in an actual lane.
Also as a cyclist you can legally ride in the middle of a narrow lane If it's under 14 feet wide. In most states this is legal, and the law. perhaps the PD does not know this, or it is not clearly stated in the local laws.
Bus Driver= I don't have to give you any room because your in the bike lane. That's absoutley crap considering his vehicle is 100 times bigger and heavier., and a cyclist is much more likely to be injured by a vehicle passing so close at high speed. I think the driver needs to take a bicycle safety course and learn a few things before he injures someone.
I like the driver, who knew he was lying through his teeth, tries to go all lawyer on the bicyclist. Was the driver not aware that there were cameras all over that bus?
Best of luck with getting to your goal. the bus driver needs some form of punishment and it looks like everyone involved including the police needs a lesson on the laws.
Interesting. Surely this video footage shows how polite and reserved you were. It shows that the driver lied about the situation and that the cop clearly mishandled the situation.
I hope it all works out for you. I'll now post this on a couple of UK cycling forums myself.
I do not live in Flagstaff and always thought this would be a fun area to visit. After seeing this video I have no desire to go. How can a city be so backwards? They should fire the driver yesterday and send the police back to school.
Cyclists want everybody to kneel down to them. I see them break the law after law after law when are they going to follow the laws?
irishcarbomb1977 1 month ago
There isn't enough enforcement of bicycle traffic law in the US
hempheadfor20 5 months ago
The problem is that most motorists have never seen anything from a cyclist's point of view. Cyclists are at the mercy of the motorists. There should be stricter laws about this as well as more bike lanes. Us cyclists are doing the world a favor, don't penalize us
ObamaoZedong 5 months ago
I know that it's SOP for people in the wrong to lie, lie some more, then blame the victim., so it couldn't be more gratifying to see this fucktard's own bus cams catching him in every one of his lies. I hope the driver got time for this and lost his license - y'know, like they'd do to, say, an attorney... And how sweet it would be if the real world caught up with the rest of the lying, clueless scum out there.
skoockum 8 months ago
@somereefer:
most of what you said is incorrect. possibly all.
Lisa Stankovich, Flagstaff deputy city attorney said:
"“Since the bicyclist in this case was in a bike lane at the time of the alleged violation, and it is our opinion that a violation occurred, it is thus clear that we think the 3-foot rule applies in all situations when a vehicle overtakes a bicycle traveling in the same direction, whether in a bike lane or not,"
ebeighe 8 months ago
Cameras help the bus drive out in this. The law the cyclist refers to applies to a cyclist who is in a traffic lane. As the video shows he is riding like a dumb ass in the emergency lane almost on the line. If you want to reference a law maybe you should know what it means and what it pertains to. This would be a valid case if the (liberal) cyclist were in an actual lane.
SomeReefer 8 months ago
@SomeReefer those are some seriously batty ideas you got swishing around in that (soft) skull of yours.
skoockum 8 months ago
Also as a cyclist you can legally ride in the middle of a narrow lane If it's under 14 feet wide. In most states this is legal, and the law. perhaps the PD does not know this, or it is not clearly stated in the local laws.
CycleMan2200 1 year ago
Bus Driver= I don't have to give you any room because your in the bike lane. That's absoutley crap considering his vehicle is 100 times bigger and heavier., and a cyclist is much more likely to be injured by a vehicle passing so close at high speed. I think the driver needs to take a bicycle safety course and learn a few things before he injures someone.
CycleMan2200 1 year ago
lol
0LeviKicksAss0 1 year ago
The bicyclist has a good case. Good luck with it.
gotgank 1 year ago
How did you measure the passing distance in this video?
CyclistLorax 1 year ago
I like the driver, who knew he was lying through his teeth, tries to go all lawyer on the bicyclist. Was the driver not aware that there were cameras all over that bus?
turndemwrenches 1 year ago
Thank you for educating the public on this. Glad you weren't hurt when he went by so closely.
voicmjones 1 year ago
I am writing an email to the people in question at the end of the video for you.
netdrift 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Take it all the way MASON. You the man.
Cops in Flag suck and will stomp all over your rights. They don't care.
This calls for Critical Mass. Take to the streets.
McClimber234 2 years ago
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McClimber234 2 years ago
Can't wait to hear the appeal on that.
bodybait 2 years ago 5
Rated and favourite'd to give this a better chance of getting more views :)
drsquirrel0 2 years ago 8
Best of luck with getting to your goal. the bus driver needs some form of punishment and it looks like everyone involved including the police needs a lesson on the laws.
gaz545 2 years ago 9
Interesting. Surely this video footage shows how polite and reserved you were. It shows that the driver lied about the situation and that the cop clearly mishandled the situation.
I hope it all works out for you. I'll now post this on a couple of UK cycling forums myself.
downfader2 2 years ago 5
I do not live in Flagstaff and always thought this would be a fun area to visit. After seeing this video I have no desire to go. How can a city be so backwards? They should fire the driver yesterday and send the police back to school.
talan2222 2 years ago 5
What the F is going on up there in Flagstaff?
jtylerhill1 2 years ago 3