@polkadotbox1 Oh my! Another 40ish year old person who felt compelled to comment on my video by telling me to stop bothering their atheistic religion.
What a hoot! Hilarious!
It seems there was something in the water 40-50 years ago that malformed a lot of people's brain cells. Well, there's a cure for your horrible malady ...
It's called Holy Scripture and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. Run (don't walk!) to your nearest Christian Bookstore and start reading today.
@SynchroTotal God gives proof of Himself to anyone who has eyes to see. So the evidence is everywhere, you're vision is just too narrow to see it.
Whether it be from hardness of heart or from excessive pride in self ... I don't know. But you're holding on to something that is blocking out the Love of Jesus Christ.
Maybe it's time for you to figure out what it is ...
The truth is what we know, not what we don't know. There is a big difference between believing something and knowing it. You believe in ghosts and magic, and I don't. There is nothing scientific to support your beliefs, only superstitions, mythology and dogma. It looks like YOU have a lot of evidence to come up with, while I see no cause to even attempt trying to prove a negative.
@ChristianFirefighter With all the REAL troubles in this world, religious zealots are still riding the bandwagon of hate against gays. How sad. How profoundly mean spirited and ignorant.
Life's too short for faith based hate. If you defend this church sanctioned witch hunt, be ashamed!
Because none of us know the hour of our passing, we should remain attentive to what Christ has ordained and not to the fanciful whimsical creations of our own little minds.
One minute we are here, the next minute we are face to face with the Creator of the Universe in all His glory.
None of us will be talking back to Him them, telling Him what we think is right or what is wrong.
@ChristianFactfighter Stop pretending like EVERYBODY has a God delusion. You may be in the majority when proclaiming your faith, but you also belong to a group known to be
less intelligent
less educated and
MUCH less able to be congenial with all people.
Atheists ARE superior when viewed as a group. We are less violent, and have much more general knowledge and ability to get along with people.
We have no desire to give up our wonderful life for one of "blind faith".
Stop ngaging atheists in your make believe. If you have nothing besides the Bible to prove that the Bible is God's Word (which it is NOT), then stop insisting this discussion is anything other than a waste of time.
It is offensive and degrading to compare discrimination against Blacks, or any other racial or ethnic group, with the rejection of aberrosexualism or biologically aberrant sexual behavior. No one chooses their skin color, ethnic group, sex or nationality. We are all free to choose with who we will have sex and what we will insert into the orifices of our body. Homosexualism, bisexualism, bestialism, pedophilia, necrophilia, are all aberrant behavioral choices you can accept or reject
With all the REAL troubles in this world, religious zealots are still riding the bandwagon of hate against gays. How sad. How profoundly mean spirited and ignorant.
Life's too short for faith based hate. If you defend this church sanctioned witch hunt, be ashamed!
@thursdaysrecords1 Your thoughts are misaligned which then shadows your judgment.
Believing that homosexuality (and other intrinsic disorders) are ok is a direct attack on the family. The family unit is the foundation of society. You can't get a problem more REAL than an attack on family.
How mean spirited it is for people to support a war against family. This is truly sadness.
Life is indeed short, and then you meet Christ. People's defense of sin will not work with Him.
It should be noted that the term "gay" is NOT scientifically descriptive of any type sexual behavior or practice. Nor is it descriptive of any medical, sexual or psychological condition. Aberrosexualism, or biologically aberrant sexual conduct, is far from being “gay.” It is actually quite sad, depressing and injurious to both physical and mental health. Happiness eludes the aberrosexual because he is at war with his own nature.
Aberrosexualists or partisans of the macabre Aberrosexualist ideology, always try to pretend their sickness is not a sickness. We are all free to choose with whom we will have sex and what we will insert into the orifices of our body. Homosexualism, bisexualism, bestialism, pedophilia, necrophilia, adultery are all anti-social behavioral choices. Nature, however, does not condemn anyone to engage in biologically aberrant, unhygienic, unhealthy and medically harmful sexual behavior.
@SynchroTotal One is not a 'bigot' if they properly identify intrinsically disordered acts. As such, God can never give up pointing out our sin. That's because He loves us and wants us to be holy.
So good luck trying to have God 'give up' any inherent/undeniable Truth.
(Hint: don't waste your time)
Instead, I suggest you endeavor in more fruitful activities such as conforming your distorted/imperfect will to His Holy and Divine Will.
God Bless You Father Rodriguez. We always find that those who walked closest to Christ were those who had to Bear the Greatest Trials. St. Teresa of Avila.
Fight the good fight Father NEVER SURRENDER!! Speak the TRUTH no matter the cost.
Your an inspration to all of us, Father! We are praying for you that God watch over you, that by His grace you persevere, spread the Gospel, Remain a Faithful servant and Lead Souls to Heaven. And that Blessed Mother Mary cover you with her Mantle of love and protection. A priest is Not a priest unless he loves the Blessed Mother! The Two Hearts are INSEPARABLE! Bless you Father!
Dear brothers and systens from El Paso, USA. My name is Rogério Amaral Silva, I am from the Federal Capital of Brazil, Brasília. Many brazilian catholics are watching what you are doing to save the Catholic Faith, the Holy Mass and the Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ against the Bishop. Here in Brazil, we have the same problems, but don´t give up Our Lady, Mother of God is watching us.
My heart aches for this Holy Priest.God sees what you do Father and I know he blesses you.2Timothy 2:1-5Thou therefore my son be strong in Christ Jesus and the things which thou hast heard of me by many witnesses, the same commend to faithful men who shall be fit to teach others also. Labour as a good soldier of Chris Jesus No man being a soldier to God entangleth himself with secular business5for he also striveth for the mastery is not crowned except he strive lawfully. God Bless!
Preach it, Fr. Rodriguez! It's refreshing to hear such straight forward talk. I agree that we must all act with charity, but sometimes there is just too much tip toeing around moral issues.
Also, this is one of the great things about the Catholic Church. The Church has maintained the faith throughout the centuries while other Christian communities have altered their teachings to appease Societie's degrading views.
@novusCatholic Yes, it IS great to hear the Truth spoken!
But as of late, it seems people who speak the Truth are under attack. Witness Fr. Corapi and Fr. Pavone.
Jesus warned us:
"you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt 10:22)
"Blessed are you when men hate you, and when they exclude you and revile you, and cast out your name as evil, on account of the Son of man! Rejoice ... for behold, your reward is great in heaven" (Luke 6:22-23)
The existence of God can be, and has been, "proved." Read St. Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica, although I doubt you'd take the time to have you preconceptions challenged. But for those who are subsumed in the false wisdom of the world, who are drenched in iniquity, no proof will ever be enough, because you have no interest in believing. Belief would require you to change your ways, and that is unthinkable.
You're actually incredibly gullible. You have fallen for the oldest lie in history.
You cannot declare that because sinful individuals, nominally Christian, committed a sin, that the Church was therefore corrupt. The Church never 'endorsed' slavery. It tolerated it, it dealt with it as part of a broader culture, but it (nor did "Christians") did not institute slavery as a practice, nor did it ever encourage it. Quite the contrary. There is much more to history than just what has occurred on this continent, Mr. Intellect.
Continuing.........numerous Papal Bulls were issued from the early middle ages on dealing with the good treatment, and freeing of slaves. Slavery was an endemic institution from well before the Church was established, as I said. Christ did not give any firm guidance on the issue. The Church developed and clarified Doctrine on the issue over time. By the time of the exploration of America, the Church was opposed, and excommunicated a number of slave traders, to little avail.
The Church did not institute slavery. What a laugh. The Bible repeatedly mentions slaves centuries prior to the Incarnation, as do numerous other sources. The Jews themselves were slaves in Egypt 1000 years BC. The Church actually fought against slavery from a very early time. The Church was denigrated in the Roman Empire for embracing slaves. Several of the first Popes were freed slaves. You have no knowledge of this subject.
Forgive me, but I must admit to chuckling a little at the mention of this "Chico's Tacos incident", until I looked it up and saw the madness for myself.
@tazer74 Can you please start from the assumption that THERE IS NO GOD.
Now tell us all about the benefits of hating and discriminating against gays. Unless you have something other than fairy tales to back you up, don't bother. You're dealing with a college graduate here. Mythology and superstition don't impress me.
@SynchroTotal The fact you're a college graduate but are still wrong is nothing new. Hitler's "Final Solution" was assembled by people of high IQ, but like you, they lacked basic common sense.
Your 1st Error: It is not discrimination to state the fact that homosexual marriage is illicit as it violates Natural Law.
Your 2nd Error: Since you can not disprove the existence of God, please stop pushing your selfish atheistic mythological beliefs on people of Faith.
@ChristianFirefighter The very profitiable institution of slavery was established by Christian people of high IQ, but like you, they lacked basic common sense.
Your 1st Error: It is not discrimination to state the fact that homosexuality occurs with regular frequency in almost all species.
Your 2nd Error: Since you can not prove the existence of God (or any other ghosts), please stop pushing your faith-based mythological beliefs on intelligent adults.
@zerogullibility Self-centered people ignore their intellect and do not answer to God. They believe in nothing but themselves, and like you, become lost and confused.
Your 1st Error: To make the claim that something which occurs in only 1-2% of the population is 'normal" is ludicrous.
Your 2nd Error: Since you can not even prove where our world came from, please stop pushing your illogical man based system of mythological beliefs on intelligent adults.
This priest speaks as if his church and religion are the only ones that exist and that everyone must follow. And with no real proof to that claim either. Your church and religion has been the cause of some of the most horrible crimes in history, Inquisition, crusades, witch hunts and etc. not to mention its spread of child molestation in its church. Your just a cold reminder of the dark ages when your church had power that they still yearn for today. Logic and reason always wins over mysticism.
@MrSinister84 Your self centered, arrogant atheism has been the scourge of the world. But alas, you are as brainwashed and self indulgent as most of those who are not interested in Truth.
FACT: Atheistic governments have killed more people int he world than any other group in history. Stalin and Hitler murdered millions and millions of innocent men, women and children.
Seriously, are you that naive?
It's readily apparent that logic and reason are no friends of yours ...
The pope they have now most likely abused little boys. He surely hide it.
This priest is brave, he knows that most priests are gay. Yet he stands up for what is right. He knows they will be angry with him and he still does what is right. The Vatican needs more MEN like him!
@onemarktwoyou You need to remember that when Jesus Christ instituted the Catholic Church in 33ad, that He did not promise that all Her members would be holy and upright (each person has to work out their own Salvation "in fear and trembling").
Knowing this, He did in fact give Peter (and every other pope who came after him) the charism of infallibility. That, so until the End of the World we would always know what is morally right and what is morally wrong.
The "infallibility" evolved over centuries! The church all but admits that some popes were heretics. Like most dogmas the catholics have, few are biblical. Although if a conservative man became pope such as this man my respect for the vatican would increase greatly. Jesus NEVER created the catholic religion!
@onemarktwoyou By saying "infallibility evolved over the centuries", it seems you're implying the false notion it was made up. It was always there, it just became better understood over time.
I find it curious how you conveniently forget the Catholic Church was under severe persecution for several centuries after Christ instituted Her in 33ad. As a result, they couldn't properly examine the already known authority of the Petrine office.
You're 42 years old, shame on for your misdirection.
First Christ did NOT institute the catholic church!
Second Peter was not the first pope!
Third the catholic church evolved by including paganism!
Everything the catholic church is today, is from centuries of changing dogmas.
Classic case: catholic encyclopedia vol.2 page 263> about baptism. But I warn you, they are starting to erase the truth that is written in it, so I suggest you only use an older version.
I have heard the arguments they have given. There are contradictions, including Peter as pope.
"documented history"??? I know its not biblical! The question is, when did the church come to this conclusion? How long did it take for them to finish its concept? Like most catholic dogma its never given by G-d.
Typical of all those who weakly attack the Fullness of Truth that only exists in the 2,000 year old Catholic Church, you do not reply to the ancient writings of the Church Fathers who formally recognized the irrevocable authority given by God to Peter and all his successors.
Because of your persistent failures to answer the ancient testimonies I have given, I must move on and to help those who truly have an open mind.
See *Catholic dot com (Catholic Answers) and learn learn Truth, if you dare.
@MuscleDaddyCMH Only darkness of mind and soul could make someone proudly (arrogantly?) proclaim that they gave up the Fulness of Truth.
But know this, Jesus Christ (the author of Truth), and His Holy Church (the Catholic Church) will be waiting for you should you ever come back to your senses.
But as for your participation on this Channel is concerned ...
Seeing how you failed to ask any questions of merit but instead chose to post a derogatory comment ... you're banned.
The quotes the Bible on homosexuality. But the Old Testament Law also has passages about owning slaves and stoning people to death for adultery. The letters of Paul say women should cover their heads in church and tells slaves to be obedient to their masters. Why is he not speaking up and saying THOSE teachings should be implemented?
@Jugglable The answer is profoundly simple (I'm guessing you're not Catholic).
In 33ad Jesus Christ gave specific authority to His Church, that everyone at it's head (the Popes) would teach on Faith and Morals without error until the end of the world (when He shall return, and it will no longer be needed).
If anyone fails to fully recognize the authority of His Holy Catholic Church, then they also fail to fully recognize Jesus Christ.
Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino (1441): "The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal"
But according to Vatican II, even an atheist can be saved if he follows his conscience in good faith.
@Jugglable You need to better understand Catholic Teaching to see why Pope Eugene's statement doesn't contradict Vatican II.
Pope Eugene never once rejects "invincible ignorance" as being a cause for why non-Catholics may enter into Heaven. Therefore, his statement is in full conformity with Vat II, which continues to proclaim that if someone DOES reject Catholic Teaching while knowing full well it's Truth, then that person can not be saved.
God bless Fr. Rodriguez. Never does he react in anger or emotion. Instead, he responds calmly with true conviction and within the grace of God. In the words of Chaucer, "But Cristes lore and his Apostles twelve / He taughte, but first he folwed it himselve."
@ChristianFirefighter As a homosexual who is chaste, I can assure you that God does indeed deem it appropriate for some folks to be attracted to those of the same sex. If he did not, then all the praying I have done to ask God to make me straight would have been granted. The physical and psychological toll I am currently suffering because of this is beyond your capability to understand. Either God deems it appropriate for me to be gay, OR there is NO GOD. So much for ask and you SHALL receive.
But as a follower of Jesus Christ, people must understand that in 33ad Christ gave His Church sole authority to decide on matters of Faith & Morals. The Catholic Church.
That Church formally declares that in this fallen world, if people are experiencing the disordered condition of same sex attraction then they've been called by Jesus Christ to become a hero of the Faith by living a life of chastity.
@ChristianFirefighter How can I become a hero when I have such severe psychological problems due to this? I even have to take pills which doesn't even help. The horrible loneliness and lack of being told by another human being that they "love" me is totally indescribable. I've reached a breaking point in my life now due to all of this and I am now at the point where I just don't care anymore. And where is God when I ask for help to "be a hero?" Watching with folded arms doing zilcho.
@happygm1 I know we all desire that someone loves us. But that can't always be the case. Forgetting the fleeting happiness that the world offers, you need to know right NOW that even in your trials, Jesus Christ loves you MORE than you can imagine.
How much more? Enough that ...
He took took nails in His perfect sinless body for you.
He was tortured and spit upon for you.
He had been put to death on a Cross for you.
God never gives us more than we can handle w/o a way out.
@ChristianFirefighter Like I said, so much for "ask and you SHALL receive." That comes from the Bible. I have asked time and time and time again for help with these matters so I can be a good Catholic. But my asking fell on deaf ears. God's very existence is rather questionable for me at the moment. I've suffered too long and too crappy with all of this and frankly I just can't take it anymore. More than likely what is gonna happen is I am going to leave the church.
@happygm1 Believe me, He has heard your prayers. It's impossible for Him not to. If we ask for something in accord with His Holy Will, He will respond.
But God's timing isn't our timing. The Bible also says that He had suffered and was persecuted, and that if this happened to the Master (Jesus), then so shall it also happen to His students (us).
@ChristianFirefighter Well, it's been a while since you posted this and I am still no better off than I was back in April.......I have tried to invoke the help from the Blessed Virgin and still nothing..... I totally give up. The Catholic Church has little to nothing as far as helping a person in my position like myself. Frankly I really am starting to wonder if God even exists. Something clearly isn't right here. I feel as though I am asking my ceiling to help me when I pray at night....
@ChristianFirefighter Well, I am not waiting many many years for soemthing to happen. What I am going through is for the birds and my patience is running VERY thin. Not to mention the serious health problems I am starting to encounter because of it. I'm gonna end up doing something about this whole thing and soon......
@ChristianFirefighter If he is spouting politics from the pulpit, he treads close to the requirement for tax exemption. As for all his anti-gay spouting, that is a hallmark of closet case behavior. Enough can't be said about Catholics, homophobia and eventual revelation of sex crimes against children.
@ChristianFirefighter Islam is 1400 years old and Buddhism is 2550 years old. Many Jews consider Christianity to be a "new" perversion of their core religion. History is on the side of mankind's wishcraft, but the number of dead religions including Norse gods, Roman and Greek mythologies, and over 30 religions in Mesopotamia point to facts that fantasy and supernaturalism in many forms fail on a regular basis. Even today's Christianity bears no resemblance to that of the 19th century.
@CanTake8 Your argument acually works against you.
You should take serious note of those "dead" religions, seeing that Judeo-Christianity is NOT one of them. See?
You should take serious note that no other religion in history that has survived the test of the ages has a God who came down here to physically walk with us, to teach us, to heal us, to die for us. See?
The others only pointed "to" a God, as opposed to Christianity where "God Is Among Us."
@ChristianFirefighter Obviously you have not studied many (any?) other religions. From Greek and Roman mythologies through Hindu and Buddhist traditions, gods dwelt among mortals, even interacting with them procreatively. If you can sum up briefly the purpose of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit according to christian scripture, I will believe you have studied your religion. If not, you're just another American traditionalist doing the god thing by the seat of your pants.
@CanTake8 You failed to differentiate between the absolute myths of dead religions vs. the living ancient Faith of Catholicism. But the real problem here is with you, isn't it?
If you seek the cause of your anti-Catholic bigotry, then we can root out your disbelief. If not, then you've joined those who embrace lies. Christ spoke of people like you:
"And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town."
@ChristianFirefighter Those that have TRUE FAITH,need say NO more to those that have little faith( these need to know their faith otherwise they show their ignorance ) or no faith at all, these will be blasphemous.
...I mean I look at the ten commandments and each one makes perfect sense, I read Jesus' teachings and I think "wow, now here's someone who gets morality" even when I used to be agnostic. But as far as homosexuality, I find most passages are stretched at best and flat out wrong most of the time.
That's why Christ gave us the See of Peter (the Pope), so His followers would have an authoritative interpreter of Scripture until the end of time who had the charism of "Binding and Loosing" on all matters regarding Faith and Morals.
And that same God given authority has formally stated that to HAVE homosexual tendencies is NOT a sin, but ACTING on them IS.
That's Christ speaking to us through Peter, so we would not be confused.
I'm a christian, I have also done some philosophical theology studying St. Augustine, St. Aquinas, St. Ireneaus, St. Bonaventure, etc. and I've also read the bible, and I'm well aware of the error associated in translations. In all this I have yet to see convincing evidence that the bible makes claims that homosexuality is a sin. I can't even think a priori why this would be so?
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination;
1 Corinthian 6
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived.
Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.
The verse from Romans is interesting, but in Romans it seems that Peter is talking about idol worshippers and pagan cults, a comman form of worship amongst them was fornication and homosexual activity. I don't think it's so clear cut.
"YOU are Peter, and on THIS rock I will build MY church...whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."-Matt 16
Church History and the Church Fathers confirm the above as being the Pope. That is irrefutable.
See the Church Fathers regarding homosexuality. Google "Catholic Answers Early Teachings on Homosexuality"
Yeah I completely agree on the need for an authoritative interpreter. We must agree that we're dealing with translations now and the word homosexuality is not directly translated from the original Hebrew text of the OT so it's already suspicious that it appears now. Further the word for Abomination in Leviticus really meant ritually unclean, the use of the word sin (zimah) did not appear.
@Jim1905 You say this, someone else says that ... blah, blah, blah.
What a mess, don't you agree? Of course you must agree!
As I said before, regarding authority ... History and the Church Fathers rebuke you. Not to mention that individual interpretation of Scripture is illogical and inherently dangerous.
"YOU are Peter, and on THIS rock I will build MY church...whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." - Matt 16
I mean I want to serve God ultimately and if homosexuality is a sin, then it's a sin. However, I am also aware of that man is not God and thus it is at least plausible that someone may have had prejudices in their translations. So I think a careful study of the orignal texts is needed, also a careful consideration of the NT is also neccessary for Christ fufilled the orignal Law.
And we also must be clear at the time and context in which the bible was written; Homosexuality for the greeks and pagans was another form of fornication. I think I would feel awful if I thought God does not tolerate homosexual activity (whom are married) and it turns out that I was wrong. Of course the converse is true too, that's why it's so important to understand the holy text and the writitngs of the church fathers and saints.
Marrige as in the the religious ceramony in a church, is different than simply obtaining a marrige license from the courthouse. Making same sex marrige legal would only make it legal to get married in they eyes of the state, not the church (hence seperation of church and state). The government can't force a church to marry a same sex couple, so any fears one may have about that are unfounded. Ugh, stop reading into the Bible so much, most of it is made up. :) †
It seems you're confused. First you state that much of Holy Scripture is 'made up', then you put a cross at the end of your post?
Ugh.
Stop making something that is of God which has passed the test of time (The Holy Bible) to be false, while wrongly believing comments from uninspired men are true (you).
You and I will be dead someday, but the Word of God will live on and continue to grow throughout the world (as it has been).
A Brief Message To Confused Catholics ('BandofSorensons' and others): Some catholics have their heart in the right place, but their theology/philosophy had gone astray a long, long time ago. In their confusion, they have developed a mix of ideas that make them ill-prepared to fight the good fight. Sad.
@bobbyke31 God didn't 'create' people's brains to be homosexual or bi-sexual (that's the whole point of the video). God is perfect, but this world is not. This is a fallen world and things go wrong here (alcoholism, drug addiction, homosexuality, etc.). But God never leaves us without a way to battle those deficiencies. You say that 'it is all from the brain', but that is incorrect. Catholic Theology has always taught the brain and the soul are linked. IMPERFECT SOULS = IMPERFECT BEHAVIOR (SIN)
@bobbyke31 The solution that Jesus gave to homosexuals (and everyone else who lives a life of sin) is the Sacraments and living a Holy Life. If a person genuinely embraces the love of Christ through His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, then the healing process has already begun. But it takes work and Faith bob. St. Paul said "I have ran the race and fought the good fight". Now that sounds like work. And no person on earth can be lonely If they have Christ. That's the Church's teaching ...
@bobbyke31 1) It's not 'straight people' telling homosexuals how they should run their life. It is Jesus Christ, The Son Of The Living God (speaking through the Church He instituted in 33ad) who is telling them how to run their life. Don't like that? Then it seems your problem is actually with Christ then. 2) It is grossly illogical to say you have to sit down with someone to know that what they're doing wrong. Try that as a defense in court. They'll laugh out loud as they go to lock you up ...
'For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another,
men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God,
God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.'
'If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.'
1 Corinthian 6:9-10
'Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.'
This is PROOF to the unlearned that the Catholic Church ALWAYS maintained an interest in Philosophy: "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND PHILOSOPHY" (Cath Encycl.) 'The principles which govern the doctrinal relations of philosophy and theology have moved the Catholic Church to INTERVENE on various occasions in the history of philosophy. As to the Church's RIGHT and DUTY to intervene for the purpose of maintaining the integrity of theological dogma and the deposit of faith, there is NO NEED OF DISCUSSION.'
EvodiusTheophile asks 'what is philosophy?" Simply put, philosophy is a way of thinking. And proper philosophy is a way of thinking in accordance with God and His irreversible Teachings. He asks "where is this in Tradition and Scripture?" MY GOODNESS, IT'S EVERYWHERE. EVERYWHERE. How frustrating it is to try and help those who do not seem to want to learn. People, start reading Church History, the Church Fathers, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with the Bible at it's side.
@pkiverson The very foundation of the US (and the world) is BASED on Judeo- Christian values. Do your homework pk. The 1st amendment and 1st Commandment are NOT opposed to each other (I just explained this in a recent post) you just don't have the ability see it correctly because of your sinful inclinations and the immoral situation you are in. And by 'license', I mean "something that is NOT a God given right", which therefore automatically qualifies it as being without any value ('worthless').
@ChristianFirefighter Perhaps you can explain it to me. The 1st commandment implies that it is a sin to worship any other God other than the Judeo-Christian one. Yet we have the freedom in this country to freely worship any God we choose without penalty from the government - in fact, all churches get a tax-exempt status.
When you speak of gay marriage, this is a sin. But you argue that we should not have the freedom to do so?
Why should we have the freedom to do one, but not the other?
@pkiverson It comes down to this being a predominantely Christian nation. A country that allows freedom of religion that has free elections of which most it's citizens are Christian (as is the US) will have those Christians voting their moral conscience. When they do, the people will reflect God's Will and refuse gay marriage. Those Christians also know that they must adhere to the 1st Commandment. So as long as this counntry is Christian, they will vote against the false notion of gay narriage.
@ChristianFirefighter You still did not answer my question. You recognize the right to have the freedom to sin by worshiping other gods. Most people recognize the right to divorce for any reason - even most Christians would not seek to make this illegal, despite it being non-biblical.
Yet, you do not recognize my right to "sin" (at least in your eyes) by marrying my partner? What is the difference? Our country was founded on liberty & justice for all, not as a Christian theocracy.
@pkiverson You still did not understand my answer. God's Laws are not subdued by man's laws if those laws subvert Truth. So if a nation is predominantly Christian, it will reflect more of His Truth and find itself governing as God demands. The fact that a "Christian" nation is not in full accordance with God's Truth in no way undermines or nullifies it's Truthful laws, not does it ever make right a nation's laws which are opposed to Truth. Homosexual marriage is WRONG. Get over it already ...
@ChristianFirefighter I think you still did not understand my question, because you didn't respond. I'm making an analogy between the 1st amendment and gay marriage.
The 1st amendment protects our right to sin by worshiping other Gods. Would you be for its repeal? Or do you recognize that it is right to have the freedom to choose to sin?
If you do recognize that it is right that we have that freedom, why should we not be allowed to marry who we please also - even if it is sinful?
@pkiverson I get your question fine, but because you CHOOSE to live a life that's an abomination to Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, you can't understand my answer. The reason for this is found in Romans 1:28 - 'And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.' There you go. St. Paul says because you do not acknowledge God, you have a base mind and can't understand reason. And until you seek God, talking to you is useless. BYE
@pkiverson I think that this argument is sound. The laws that govern this nation are not Christian and the Church ought not be bound up with or confused with the political order of man. Christ is the ruler of the New Jerusalem, not the United States. It is fine to do all we can, as Christians, to persuade and pray for non-believers (and I mean, all we can) but I do not think that codifying our moral principles, into civil laws, is going to lead people to the Truth or save souls.
@BandofSorensons While the moral laws that govern this nation are not all Catholic (and therefore not entirely based in Truth) the origin for any law that is right/just IS Catholic. Every just law (from whatever nation) can only come from Jesus Christ and His Church. And the more that people/nations/leaders ARE genuinely Catholic, the better off it will be. In this fallen world, every baptized Catholic is obligated to try and bring as much of their faith into the world as possible. PEACE
@ChristianFirefighter I completely agree with the end, but I question the method. Either way though, I am glad to know that there are people out there (like you and Fr. Rodriguez) who love God. Courage is the work of the Holy Spirit. I used to live in El Paso (a tremendously SAD diocese) and would have loved to meet Fr. Rodriguez.
@BandofSorensons What method exactly are you questioning? Regarding El Paso, yes, there are many sad diocese in this world. A study of Church History reveals up and down times. But as Catholics we know Christ did not promise us the people in His Church would be perfect. He did promise us though that the Teaching Church would never err on Faith or Morals until the end of the world. So if we do find ourselves in a sad diocese (as do I) then at least we can still find Truth by looking to Rome. AMEN
@ChristianFirefighter The method is not one of prayer and persuasion or example but instead it is an attempt to politically change (a quixotic notion) civil law such that homosexuals cannot benefit from the same privileges as straight people in "civil", that is to say, non-sacramental marriages. El Paso is a particularly bad diocese, and there are indeed quite good dioceses in the US. I'm not sure if Christ ever literally said the Church wouldn't err on "Faith and morals", but you are right.
@BandofSorensons Who says that Prayer/Persuasion are the only means which the Faithful can use to fight sin? And at Fr. Un., did you ever learn about John the Baptist? St. John publicly reproached Herod for his illicit marriage and paid for it with his life (Christ called him 'the greatest of the prophets'). And you are correct when you state that marriage is a PRIVILEGE (and NOT a right). Regarding the Church not erring, read Matt 16:18,19. Gee. What exactly did you learn at Fr. Un. anyways?
@ChristianFirefighter Public reproachment is what I mean by persuasion. John did not attempt to address civil laws but he went straight to the people. All Christians are called to speak out publicly against evil and to proclaim the Gospel. Yet I am not sure that telling the el paso city council that they shouldn't pay out benefits equitably to their employees entails this. It would be better to focus on Christ instead of politics. Only councils and ex-cathedra Dogmas cannot be in err.
@BandofSorensons John defended God's Laws by rebuking a leader who was in direct violation of His Laws. So what he did was even MORE profound, not less. Therefore, your point is moot. Regarding what your not 'sure' about, the Truth remains that the more a government supports SIN (i.e., 'paying out benefits to gays thus recognizing their illicit union') then the more likely it will FAIL. And councils/dogmas IS how the Church teaches. But you said you weren't 'sure'. Now your just back stepping.
@ChristianFirefighter That was actually my point (referring to John). The second thing you say makes no sense at all, it is not necessarily true that human societies fall because of sinful laws. China has sinful laws and yet has risen to be a burgeoning economic superpower. The papal states on the other hand were conquered and discarded long ago. The Church mostly teaches via the "ordinary magisterium", not the "extraordinary magisterium". There's a big difference there, one is infallible.
@BandofSorensons You PERSIST in missing the point because John did MORE than what YOU were saying was ALREADY too much. You're back pedaling again, cut it out. And how spiritually nearsighted can one be to mention something as obtuse as 'China is a superpower so sinful societies can't fail'. Ultimately, ALL sinful societies MUST fail. Wake up. And the Church teaches AUTHORITATIVELY through Peter and all the Bishops in union with him when it speaks specifically and consistently the same message.
Pkiverson - The laws of man are one thing and the laws of God are another. If man, who created these laws were close to God, they would have made the laws according to the Ten Commandments. Man can make how ever many laws they see fit to man, but the laws of God are made according to the way God wants us to live. You could follow as many laws (made from man) and feel you are a good citizen, but if they are in conflict to God's laws, then you lose your soul.
TO ONE AND ALL: incredulosity (and others) have been blocked because they do not want to try and understand my answers, but with their hard heart they post just to be argumentative. I fear that even if Christ sat before them, they would still not believe. As such, I follow Christ's instructions when the Apostles were rejected for teaching The Good News: Matthew 10-14 "And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town."
@polkadotbox1 Oh my! Another 40ish year old person who felt compelled to comment on my video by telling me to stop bothering their atheistic religion.
What a hoot! Hilarious!
It seems there was something in the water 40-50 years ago that malformed a lot of people's brain cells. Well, there's a cure for your horrible malady ...
It's called Holy Scripture and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. Run (don't walk!) to your nearest Christian Bookstore and start reading today.
I mean RIGHT NOW!
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
@Chelsea4President I answered your incoherent diatribe on my main channel page. No need to embarrass you here again in front of even more people.
So your wild rant has been deleted.
Your Welcome!
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
@mdmusil Your comment had little to no value.
Being 46 years old, one would have thought you checked my replies to see I don't allow posts of no viable content.
Regardless, it has been deleted and you have been blocked.
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
@boc1953 Your comments have become unintelligible and erratic.
So they have been removed and you're blocked. Sorry, I gave you a chance ...
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
Faith requires you to believe things without evidence. I don't do that, because I'm not an idiot.
SynchroTotal 1 month ago
@SynchroTotal God gives proof of Himself to anyone who has eyes to see. So the evidence is everywhere, you're vision is just too narrow to see it.
Whether it be from hardness of heart or from excessive pride in self ... I don't know. But you're holding on to something that is blocking out the Love of Jesus Christ.
Maybe it's time for you to figure out what it is ...
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
Believe what you want.
Don't like gay marriage? Don't get one. How difficult is that?
There is no denfending bigotry. It is wrong, and it has no place in society. Stop blaming GOD for YOUR hate!
thursdaysrecords1 1 month ago
@thursdaysrecords1 You're 46, time to think like an adult.
It has nothing to do with 'like', it has to do with an action that defies God's Law of marriage between one man and one woman.
It has nothing to do with 'hate', it has to do with loving the construct of Family as Christ had intended it to be.
It has nothing to do with Christians being bigoted, it has to do with some people being anti-Christian bigots.
Stop blaming Christians for your hateful support of an abomination against God.
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
The truth is what we know, not what we don't know. There is a big difference between believing something and knowing it. You believe in ghosts and magic, and I don't. There is nothing scientific to support your beliefs, only superstitions, mythology and dogma. It looks like YOU have a lot of evidence to come up with, while I see no cause to even attempt trying to prove a negative.
multitalentino 1 month ago
@multitalentino The Truth is not so much "What" you know as it is "Who" you know:
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (Jesus Christ) John 14:6
ChristianFirefighter 1 month ago
@ChristianFirefighter With all the REAL troubles in this world, religious zealots are still riding the bandwagon of hate against gays. How sad. How profoundly mean spirited and ignorant.
Life's too short for faith based hate. If you defend this church sanctioned witch hunt, be ashamed!
multitalentino 1 month ago
@multitalentino Life is too short for hate against God.
Because none of us know the hour of our passing, we should remain attentive to what Christ has ordained and not to the fanciful whimsical creations of our own little minds.
One minute we are here, the next minute we are face to face with the Creator of the Universe in all His glory.
None of us will be talking back to Him them, telling Him what we think is right or what is wrong.
That much, I am sure of ...
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
@ChristianFactfighter Stop pretending like EVERYBODY has a God delusion. You may be in the majority when proclaiming your faith, but you also belong to a group known to be
less intelligent
less educated and
MUCH less able to be congenial with all people.
Atheists ARE superior when viewed as a group. We are less violent, and have much more general knowledge and ability to get along with people.
We have no desire to give up our wonderful life for one of "blind faith".
fannynoise 3 weeks ago
@fannynoise Atheists are "less violent"?
Guess you never heard of Stalin. Talk about being delusional and blind ...
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
@ChristianFirefighter There is no God.
Stop ngaging atheists in your make believe. If you have nothing besides the Bible to prove that the Bible is God's Word (which it is NOT), then stop insisting this discussion is anything other than a waste of time.
SynchroTotal 3 weeks ago
@SynchroTotal I find it quite ironic that you claim I am "nagging atheists", when of you are the one who came to my YT channel and viewed the vid.
Now who's really the one that's "nagging" ...
ChristianFirefighter 3 weeks ago
Fearlessly speaking the truth enrages those who hate the truth. Get rid of the hate, listen to the truth, and be at peace.
coopertonyfrancis 1 month ago
@coopertonyfrancis AMEN.
ChristianFirefighter 1 month ago
It is offensive and degrading to compare discrimination against Blacks, or any other racial or ethnic group, with the rejection of aberrosexualism or biologically aberrant sexual behavior. No one chooses their skin color, ethnic group, sex or nationality. We are all free to choose with who we will have sex and what we will insert into the orifices of our body. Homosexualism, bisexualism, bestialism, pedophilia, necrophilia, are all aberrant behavioral choices you can accept or reject
Aberrosexualismo 1 month ago
With all the REAL troubles in this world, religious zealots are still riding the bandwagon of hate against gays. How sad. How profoundly mean spirited and ignorant.
Life's too short for faith based hate. If you defend this church sanctioned witch hunt, be ashamed!
thursdaysrecords1 1 month ago
@thursdaysrecords1 Your thoughts are misaligned which then shadows your judgment.
Believing that homosexuality (and other intrinsic disorders) are ok is a direct attack on the family. The family unit is the foundation of society. You can't get a problem more REAL than an attack on family.
How mean spirited it is for people to support a war against family. This is truly sadness.
Life is indeed short, and then you meet Christ. People's defense of sin will not work with Him.
ChristianFirefighter 1 month ago
It should be noted that the term "gay" is NOT scientifically descriptive of any type sexual behavior or practice. Nor is it descriptive of any medical, sexual or psychological condition. Aberrosexualism, or biologically aberrant sexual conduct, is far from being “gay.” It is actually quite sad, depressing and injurious to both physical and mental health. Happiness eludes the aberrosexual because he is at war with his own nature.
Aberrosexualismo 1 month ago
Aberrosexualists or partisans of the macabre Aberrosexualist ideology, always try to pretend their sickness is not a sickness. We are all free to choose with whom we will have sex and what we will insert into the orifices of our body. Homosexualism, bisexualism, bestialism, pedophilia, necrophilia, adultery are all anti-social behavioral choices. Nature, however, does not condemn anyone to engage in biologically aberrant, unhygienic, unhealthy and medically harmful sexual behavior.
UnaVoceMiami 1 month ago
@UnaVoceMiami The moment after every human dies, it's not 'nature' to whom we'll have to give an account to of our life. Nope.
God (on the other hand) we will have to give an account to ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 month ago
The probem with gay marriage is there is no problem. The problem with anti-gay crusading is that it can not be defended. Give it up, bigots!
SynchroTotal 1 month ago
@SynchroTotal One is not a 'bigot' if they properly identify intrinsically disordered acts. As such, God can never give up pointing out our sin. That's because He loves us and wants us to be holy.
So good luck trying to have God 'give up' any inherent/undeniable Truth.
(Hint: don't waste your time)
Instead, I suggest you endeavor in more fruitful activities such as conforming your distorted/imperfect will to His Holy and Divine Will.
Yup ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 month ago
Very well said.
NirvanaBoii 1 month ago
AMEN Fr. Rodriguez
cdoug1 2 months ago
Father Michael Rodriguez is an Amazing Priest.
God Bless You Father Rodriguez. We always find that those who walked closest to Christ were those who had to Bear the Greatest Trials. St. Teresa of Avila.
Fight the good fight Father NEVER SURRENDER!! Speak the TRUTH no matter the cost.
God bless,
Di
MsDi333 3 months ago
@MsDi333 AMEN!
ChristianFirefighter 3 months ago
Your an inspration to all of us, Father! We are praying for you that God watch over you, that by His grace you persevere, spread the Gospel, Remain a Faithful servant and Lead Souls to Heaven. And that Blessed Mother Mary cover you with her Mantle of love and protection. A priest is Not a priest unless he loves the Blessed Mother! The Two Hearts are INSEPARABLE! Bless you Father!
MsCampobasso 4 months ago
You see that? That's just the sort of Priests we need in the world today. More Priests like Fr. Rodriguez FTW!
MontChevalier 4 months ago
Dear brothers and systens from El Paso, USA. My name is Rogério Amaral Silva, I am from the Federal Capital of Brazil, Brasília. Many brazilian catholics are watching what you are doing to save the Catholic Faith, the Holy Mass and the Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ against the Bishop. Here in Brazil, we have the same problems, but don´t give up Our Lady, Mother of God is watching us.
raslefebvre 4 months ago
My heart aches for this Holy Priest.God sees what you do Father and I know he blesses you.2Timothy 2:1-5Thou therefore my son be strong in Christ Jesus and the things which thou hast heard of me by many witnesses, the same commend to faithful men who shall be fit to teach others also. Labour as a good soldier of Chris Jesus No man being a soldier to God entangleth himself with secular business5for he also striveth for the mastery is not crowned except he strive lawfully. God Bless!
MsDi333 4 months ago
Preach it, Fr. Rodriguez! It's refreshing to hear such straight forward talk. I agree that we must all act with charity, but sometimes there is just too much tip toeing around moral issues.
Also, this is one of the great things about the Catholic Church. The Church has maintained the faith throughout the centuries while other Christian communities have altered their teachings to appease Societie's degrading views.
The truth doesn't change based upon opinion.
novusCatholic 4 months ago
@novusCatholic Yes, it IS great to hear the Truth spoken!
But as of late, it seems people who speak the Truth are under attack. Witness Fr. Corapi and Fr. Pavone.
Jesus warned us:
"you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt 10:22)
"Blessed are you when men hate you, and when they exclude you and revile you, and cast out your name as evil, on account of the Son of man! Rejoice ... for behold, your reward is great in heaven" (Luke 6:22-23)
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
The existence of God can be, and has been, "proved." Read St. Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica, although I doubt you'd take the time to have you preconceptions challenged. But for those who are subsumed in the false wisdom of the world, who are drenched in iniquity, no proof will ever be enough, because you have no interest in believing. Belief would require you to change your ways, and that is unthinkable.
You're actually incredibly gullible. You have fallen for the oldest lie in history.
hckyplyr90 4 months ago
You cannot declare that because sinful individuals, nominally Christian, committed a sin, that the Church was therefore corrupt. The Church never 'endorsed' slavery. It tolerated it, it dealt with it as part of a broader culture, but it (nor did "Christians") did not institute slavery as a practice, nor did it ever encourage it. Quite the contrary. There is much more to history than just what has occurred on this continent, Mr. Intellect.
hckyplyr90 4 months ago
Continuing.........numerous Papal Bulls were issued from the early middle ages on dealing with the good treatment, and freeing of slaves. Slavery was an endemic institution from well before the Church was established, as I said. Christ did not give any firm guidance on the issue. The Church developed and clarified Doctrine on the issue over time. By the time of the exploration of America, the Church was opposed, and excommunicated a number of slave traders, to little avail.
hckyplyr90 4 months ago
The Church did not institute slavery. What a laugh. The Bible repeatedly mentions slaves centuries prior to the Incarnation, as do numerous other sources. The Jews themselves were slaves in Egypt 1000 years BC. The Church actually fought against slavery from a very early time. The Church was denigrated in the Roman Empire for embracing slaves. Several of the first Popes were freed slaves. You have no knowledge of this subject.
hckyplyr90 4 months ago
Forgive me, but I must admit to chuckling a little at the mention of this "Chico's Tacos incident", until I looked it up and saw the madness for myself.
Not very funny, after all...
Pax Christi
Herdewelle 4 months ago
@tazer74 Can you please start from the assumption that THERE IS NO GOD.
Now tell us all about the benefits of hating and discriminating against gays. Unless you have something other than fairy tales to back you up, don't bother. You're dealing with a college graduate here. Mythology and superstition don't impress me.
SynchroTotal 5 months ago
@SynchroTotal The fact you're a college graduate but are still wrong is nothing new. Hitler's "Final Solution" was assembled by people of high IQ, but like you, they lacked basic common sense.
Your 1st Error: It is not discrimination to state the fact that homosexual marriage is illicit as it violates Natural Law.
Your 2nd Error: Since you can not disprove the existence of God, please stop pushing your selfish atheistic mythological beliefs on people of Faith.
Seriously, I'm not impressed ...
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter The very profitiable institution of slavery was established by Christian people of high IQ, but like you, they lacked basic common sense.
Your 1st Error: It is not discrimination to state the fact that homosexuality occurs with regular frequency in almost all species.
Your 2nd Error: Since you can not prove the existence of God (or any other ghosts), please stop pushing your faith-based mythological beliefs on intelligent adults.
Seriously, I'm not impressed ...
zerogullibility 4 months ago
@zerogullibility Self-centered people ignore their intellect and do not answer to God. They believe in nothing but themselves, and like you, become lost and confused.
Your 1st Error: To make the claim that something which occurs in only 1-2% of the population is 'normal" is ludicrous.
Your 2nd Error: Since you can not even prove where our world came from, please stop pushing your illogical man based system of mythological beliefs on intelligent adults.
Seriously, you impress no one ...
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
you can't deal with opposition...so you reject any comment that you can't really-answer.
tlaniganschmidt 6 months ago
@tlaniganschmidt You can't deal with Truth ... so you reject Good and embrace Evil.
The Catholic Church has 2,000 years experience answering all questions regarding Truth. Being 63 years old, you should already know that. Guess not.
Scripture clearly teaches what to do if anyone rejects Catholic Truth:
"And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town." (Matt. 10:14)
Dust shaken, you're blocked. Bah bye ...
ChristianFirefighter 5 months ago
Logic and reason always wins over mysticism.
MrSinister84 6 months ago
@MrSinister84 That's why I love the Catholic Church. It's formal Teachings are the absolute summit of logic and reason.
Glad we agree!
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
This priest speaks as if his church and religion are the only ones that exist and that everyone must follow. And with no real proof to that claim either. Your church and religion has been the cause of some of the most horrible crimes in history, Inquisition, crusades, witch hunts and etc. not to mention its spread of child molestation in its church. Your just a cold reminder of the dark ages when your church had power that they still yearn for today. Logic and reason always wins over mysticism.
MrSinister84 6 months ago
@MrSinister84 Your self centered, arrogant atheism has been the scourge of the world. But alas, you are as brainwashed and self indulgent as most of those who are not interested in Truth.
FACT: Atheistic governments have killed more people int he world than any other group in history. Stalin and Hitler murdered millions and millions of innocent men, women and children.
Seriously, are you that naive?
It's readily apparent that logic and reason are no friends of yours ...
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
A straight priest?
A priest who defends the word of G-d?
I say make this guy the next pope!
The pope they have now most likely abused little boys. He surely hide it.
This priest is brave, he knows that most priests are gay. Yet he stands up for what is right. He knows they will be angry with him and he still does what is right. The Vatican needs more MEN like him!
onemarktwoyou 6 months ago
@onemarktwoyou You need to remember that when Jesus Christ instituted the Catholic Church in 33ad, that He did not promise that all Her members would be holy and upright (each person has to work out their own Salvation "in fear and trembling").
Knowing this, He did in fact give Peter (and every other pope who came after him) the charism of infallibility. That, so until the End of the World we would always know what is morally right and what is morally wrong.
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter
The "infallibility" evolved over centuries! The church all but admits that some popes were heretics. Like most dogmas the catholics have, few are biblical. Although if a conservative man became pope such as this man my respect for the vatican would increase greatly. Jesus NEVER created the catholic religion!
onemarktwoyou 4 months ago
@onemarktwoyou By saying "infallibility evolved over the centuries", it seems you're implying the false notion it was made up. It was always there, it just became better understood over time.
I find it curious how you conveniently forget the Catholic Church was under severe persecution for several centuries after Christ instituted Her in 33ad. As a result, they couldn't properly examine the already known authority of the Petrine office.
You're 42 years old, shame on for your misdirection.
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter
First Christ did NOT institute the catholic church!
Second Peter was not the first pope!
Third the catholic church evolved by including paganism!
Everything the catholic church is today, is from centuries of changing dogmas.
Classic case: catholic encyclopedia vol.2 page 263> about baptism. But I warn you, they are starting to erase the truth that is written in it, so I suggest you only use an older version.
onemarktwoyou 4 months ago
@onemarktwoyou How ridiculous, of course Jesus Christ instituted the Catholic Church. That concrete claim can be fact checked.
It's called "Documented History" ... I suggest you begin reading it.
(but I warn you, people have been erasing the truth of Catholic History so only use older/unbiased versions)
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter
I have heard the arguments they have given. There are contradictions, including Peter as pope.
"documented history"??? I know its not biblical! The question is, when did the church come to this conclusion? How long did it take for them to finish its concept? Like most catholic dogma its never given by G-d.
onemarktwoyou 4 months ago
@onemarktwoyou You're under many false ideas. Read FACTS:
Irenaeus of Lyons A.D. 189 “The blessed apostles handed over the OFFICE OF THE EPISCOPATE to Linus.”
Tertullian A.D. 200 “But if you are near Italy, you have ROME where AUTHORITY is at hand for us too.”
The Didache AD 70 "... baptize in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY SPIRIT"
Ignatius of Antioch A.D. 110]"To the Church at Ephesus ... chosen through true suffering by the will of the Father in JESUS CHRIST our GOD"
ChristianFirefighter 3 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter
Catholic encyclopedia volume 2 page 263.
onemarktwoyou 3 months ago
@onemarktwoyou Cyprian AD 251 “If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?”
Ambrose AD 388 “The Novatian heretic have not the succession of Peter.”
Jerome AD 396 “I follow no leader but Christ and join with the chair of Peter that is the rock on which the Church has been built.”
Augustine AD 416 “Who is ignorant that the first of the apostles is the most blessed Peter?”
Give up yet? You should ...
ChristianFirefighter 3 months ago
Typical of all those who weakly attack the Fullness of Truth that only exists in the 2,000 year old Catholic Church, you do not reply to the ancient writings of the Church Fathers who formally recognized the irrevocable authority given by God to Peter and all his successors.
Because of your persistent failures to answer the ancient testimonies I have given, I must move on and to help those who truly have an open mind.
See *Catholic dot com (Catholic Answers) and learn learn Truth, if you dare.
ChristianFirefighter 3 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter Thanks for defending the Catholic faith. God Bless.
assasincomedy 4 months ago
@assasincomedy PEACE
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
We need more priests like Fr. Michael Rodriguez to speak out.
john2000young 7 months ago
@john2000young Yes, we do.
ChristianFirefighter 7 months ago
I am so glad I gave up the Catholic Church for Lent.....
MuscleDaddyCMH 7 months ago
@MuscleDaddyCMH Only darkness of mind and soul could make someone proudly (arrogantly?) proclaim that they gave up the Fulness of Truth.
But know this, Jesus Christ (the author of Truth), and His Holy Church (the Catholic Church) will be waiting for you should you ever come back to your senses.
But as for your participation on this Channel is concerned ...
Seeing how you failed to ask any questions of merit but instead chose to post a derogatory comment ... you're banned.
ChristianFirefighter 7 months ago
@MuscleDaddyCMH what? hoe can you give the catholic church for let ?thats so stupied
MegaRob30 5 months ago
I will have new saints in the Church!
Ramapazan 8 months ago
Congratulations to father Rodriguez \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
Ramapazan 8 months ago
The quotes the Bible on homosexuality. But the Old Testament Law also has passages about owning slaves and stoning people to death for adultery. The letters of Paul say women should cover their heads in church and tells slaves to be obedient to their masters. Why is he not speaking up and saying THOSE teachings should be implemented?
Jugglable 8 months ago
@Jugglable The answer is profoundly simple (I'm guessing you're not Catholic).
In 33ad Jesus Christ gave specific authority to His Church, that everyone at it's head (the Popes) would teach on Faith and Morals without error until the end of the world (when He shall return, and it will no longer be needed).
If anyone fails to fully recognize the authority of His Holy Catholic Church, then they also fail to fully recognize Jesus Christ.
See, I told you it would be simple ...
ChristianFirefighter 7 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter If he gave them authority not to err, why did they completely reverse their teaching on salvation?
Jugglable 7 months ago
@Jugglable Because they didn't that's why.
Any other questions?
ChristianFirefighter 7 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter
Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino (1441): "The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal"
But according to Vatican II, even an atheist can be saved if he follows his conscience in good faith.
Jugglable 7 months ago
@Jugglable You need to better understand Catholic Teaching to see why Pope Eugene's statement doesn't contradict Vatican II.
Pope Eugene never once rejects "invincible ignorance" as being a cause for why non-Catholics may enter into Heaven. Therefore, his statement is in full conformity with Vat II, which continues to proclaim that if someone DOES reject Catholic Teaching while knowing full well it's Truth, then that person can not be saved.
And to that fact, God will rightly judge.
ChristianFirefighter 6 months ago
@Jugglable :so you're a Constantinian Christian?...&..that's it.
tlaniganschmidt 6 months ago
Amen! God is pleased with the ones who pronounce their faith proudly!
LightVangel 9 months ago
AMEN!
ChristianFirefighter 11 months ago
Very well spoken Priest! I hope that he continues to be lead by truth!
TheYoyozo 11 months ago
God bless Fr. Rodriguez. Never does he react in anger or emotion. Instead, he responds calmly with true conviction and within the grace of God. In the words of Chaucer, "But Cristes lore and his Apostles twelve / He taughte, but first he folwed it himselve."
KevinYohanUm 1 year ago
@KevinYohanUm Yes, I agree.
Fr. Rodriguez shows great Faith and conviction in his love for God's Truth!
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@KevinYohanUm God Bless Fr. Rodriguez,He is truly one of God's Apostles..Remember everyone, God made MAN and WOman.
AJC1948 1 year ago
@AJC1948 Yes Kevin, God did make Man and Woman.
Yes He did!
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@AJC1948 And he also deemed it very appropriate for some men and some women to be attracted to those of the same sex!
happygm1 1 year ago
@happygm1 If you mean in a sexual context, no.
God has never "deemed it appropriate" for men and women of the same sex to be attracted to one another in that way.
That is an aberration (among many others) which resulted after the Fall when sin entered into the world.
But of course, you already knew that ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter As a homosexual who is chaste, I can assure you that God does indeed deem it appropriate for some folks to be attracted to those of the same sex. If he did not, then all the praying I have done to ask God to make me straight would have been granted. The physical and psychological toll I am currently suffering because of this is beyond your capability to understand. Either God deems it appropriate for me to be gay, OR there is NO GOD. So much for ask and you SHALL receive.
happygm1 11 months ago
@happygm1 My heat goes out to you.
But as a follower of Jesus Christ, people must understand that in 33ad Christ gave His Church sole authority to decide on matters of Faith & Morals. The Catholic Church.
That Church formally declares that in this fallen world, if people are experiencing the disordered condition of same sex attraction then they've been called by Jesus Christ to become a hero of the Faith by living a life of chastity.
That is now your duty.
Be a hero brother, be a hero ...
ChristianFirefighter 11 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter How can I become a hero when I have such severe psychological problems due to this? I even have to take pills which doesn't even help. The horrible loneliness and lack of being told by another human being that they "love" me is totally indescribable. I've reached a breaking point in my life now due to all of this and I am now at the point where I just don't care anymore. And where is God when I ask for help to "be a hero?" Watching with folded arms doing zilcho.
happygm1 11 months ago
@happygm1 I know we all desire that someone loves us. But that can't always be the case. Forgetting the fleeting happiness that the world offers, you need to know right NOW that even in your trials, Jesus Christ loves you MORE than you can imagine.
How much more? Enough that ...
He took took nails in His perfect sinless body for you.
He was tortured and spit upon for you.
He had been put to death on a Cross for you.
God never gives us more than we can handle w/o a way out.
DO NOT LOSE FAITH!
ChristianFirefighter 10 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter Like I said, so much for "ask and you SHALL receive." That comes from the Bible. I have asked time and time and time again for help with these matters so I can be a good Catholic. But my asking fell on deaf ears. God's very existence is rather questionable for me at the moment. I've suffered too long and too crappy with all of this and frankly I just can't take it anymore. More than likely what is gonna happen is I am going to leave the church.
happygm1 11 months ago
@happygm1 Believe me, He has heard your prayers. It's impossible for Him not to. If we ask for something in accord with His Holy Will, He will respond.
But God's timing isn't our timing. The Bible also says that He had suffered and was persecuted, and that if this happened to the Master (Jesus), then so shall it also happen to His students (us).
KEEP LOOKING TO SOMEONE FOR HELP!
DO NOT GIVE UP UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!
INVOKE THE HELP OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN!
Holy Mother Mary, HELP this person!
ChristianFirefighter 10 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter Well, it's been a while since you posted this and I am still no better off than I was back in April.......I have tried to invoke the help from the Blessed Virgin and still nothing..... I totally give up. The Catholic Church has little to nothing as far as helping a person in my position like myself. Frankly I really am starting to wonder if God even exists. Something clearly isn't right here. I feel as though I am asking my ceiling to help me when I pray at night....
happygm1 9 months ago
@happygm1 Mr. gym, Rome wasn't built in a day!
Read how the good saints suffered ...
About how the apostles were killed ...
How God even allowed Job, a righteous man, to be tested ...
About St. Augustine's mother, St. Monica, who prayed for him for many, many years before he converted ...
God's timing is not our timing my friend, we are just asked to have Faith and to know that He hears us.
And I KNOW that you believe God exists. Because if you didn't, you wouldn't be here asking questions!
ChristianFirefighter 8 months ago
@ChristianFirefighter Well, I am not waiting many many years for soemthing to happen. What I am going through is for the birds and my patience is running VERY thin. Not to mention the serious health problems I am starting to encounter because of it. I'm gonna end up doing something about this whole thing and soon......
happygm1 8 months ago
@happygm1 SEEK PROFESSIONAL CHRISTIAN COUNSELING IMMEDIATELY.
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
@richstpete Your 'comment' was merely an attack and had no intrinsic value.
As a result, it was removed and you have been blocked.
ChristianFirefighter 4 months ago
Take any stand you want, Frawdriguez, pay your taxes.
CanTake8 1 year ago
@CanTake8 I'm sure he pays all of the taxes he is obligated for under law.
Do you?
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter If he is spouting politics from the pulpit, he treads close to the requirement for tax exemption. As for all his anti-gay spouting, that is a hallmark of closet case behavior. Enough can't be said about Catholics, homophobia and eventual revelation of sex crimes against children.
CanTake8 1 year ago
@CanTake8 Stating that abortion, homosexual "marriage", or any other wrongful action is a sin is NOT being political.
It is Scriptural, and is written into the heart of every man and women on earth (whether they publicly agree with it or not).
This will NEVER change.
You and I will be gone from this world someday, but the Church and the absolute Truth it teaches will continue to the very end of the world.
It's not going anywhere, Christ guaranteed that. So I suggest you get used to it ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter Today's "religion," tomorrow's "myth."
CanTake8 1 year ago
@CanTake8 That statement is not only ridiculous, it completely ignores facts.
Judaism is ~5,000 years old, and Christianity (it's fulfillment) is 2,000 years old.
In 7,000 years, empires have come and gone, and billions of people like you and me have died.
But the Judeo-Christian Faith has survived intact.
Get a grip dude ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter Islam is 1400 years old and Buddhism is 2550 years old. Many Jews consider Christianity to be a "new" perversion of their core religion. History is on the side of mankind's wishcraft, but the number of dead religions including Norse gods, Roman and Greek mythologies, and over 30 religions in Mesopotamia point to facts that fantasy and supernaturalism in many forms fail on a regular basis. Even today's Christianity bears no resemblance to that of the 19th century.
CanTake8 1 year ago
@CanTake8 Your argument acually works against you.
You should take serious note of those "dead" religions, seeing that Judeo-Christianity is NOT one of them. See?
You should take serious note that no other religion in history that has survived the test of the ages has a God who came down here to physically walk with us, to teach us, to heal us, to die for us. See?
The others only pointed "to" a God, as opposed to Christianity where "God Is Among Us."
Getting the picture yet?
You should be.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter Obviously you have not studied many (any?) other religions. From Greek and Roman mythologies through Hindu and Buddhist traditions, gods dwelt among mortals, even interacting with them procreatively. If you can sum up briefly the purpose of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit according to christian scripture, I will believe you have studied your religion. If not, you're just another American traditionalist doing the god thing by the seat of your pants.
CanTake8 1 year ago
@CanTake8 You failed to differentiate between the absolute myths of dead religions vs. the living ancient Faith of Catholicism. But the real problem here is with you, isn't it?
If you seek the cause of your anti-Catholic bigotry, then we can root out your disbelief. If not, then you've joined those who embrace lies. Christ spoke of people like you:
"And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town."
Bah Bye ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter Those that have TRUE FAITH,need say NO more to those that have little faith( these need to know their faith otherwise they show their ignorance ) or no faith at all, these will be blasphemous.
AJC1948 1 year ago
@AJC1948 Or ...
"Preach the Gospel, and if you have to, use words."
- St. Francis of Assisi
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
...I mean I look at the ten commandments and each one makes perfect sense, I read Jesus' teachings and I think "wow, now here's someone who gets morality" even when I used to be agnostic. But as far as homosexuality, I find most passages are stretched at best and flat out wrong most of the time.
Jim1905 1 year ago
@Jim1905 I understand your confusion.
That's why Christ gave us the See of Peter (the Pope), so His followers would have an authoritative interpreter of Scripture until the end of time who had the charism of "Binding and Loosing" on all matters regarding Faith and Morals.
And that same God given authority has formally stated that to HAVE homosexual tendencies is NOT a sin, but ACTING on them IS.
That's Christ speaking to us through Peter, so we would not be confused.
AMEN.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
I'm a christian, I have also done some philosophical theology studying St. Augustine, St. Aquinas, St. Ireneaus, St. Bonaventure, etc. and I've also read the bible, and I'm well aware of the error associated in translations. In all this I have yet to see convincing evidence that the bible makes claims that homosexuality is a sin. I can't even think a priori why this would be so?
Jim1905 1 year ago
@Jim1905 My previous comment explained why Scripture NEEDS an authoritative interpreter in every age .
Still, the teaching that engaging in a homosexual lifestyle is sinful is profoundly clear ...
(cont'd)
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter (cont'd)
Leviticus 20
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination;
1 Corinthian 6
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived.
Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter (cont'd)
Romans 1:26-28
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.
And there you go.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter
The verse from Romans is interesting, but in Romans it seems that Peter is talking about idol worshippers and pagan cults, a comman form of worship amongst them was fornication and homosexual activity. I don't think it's so clear cut.
Jim1905 1 year ago
@Jim1905 For Catholics, it couldn't be clearer!
Because Christ gave us this:
"YOU are Peter, and on THIS rock I will build MY church...whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."-Matt 16
Church History and the Church Fathers confirm the above as being the Pope. That is irrefutable.
See the Church Fathers regarding homosexuality. Google "Catholic Answers Early Teachings on Homosexuality"
You don't have a leg to stand on ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter
Yeah I completely agree on the need for an authoritative interpreter. We must agree that we're dealing with translations now and the word homosexuality is not directly translated from the original Hebrew text of the OT so it's already suspicious that it appears now. Further the word for Abomination in Leviticus really meant ritually unclean, the use of the word sin (zimah) did not appear.
Jim1905 1 year ago
@Jim1905 You say this, someone else says that ... blah, blah, blah.
What a mess, don't you agree? Of course you must agree!
As I said before, regarding authority ... History and the Church Fathers rebuke you. Not to mention that individual interpretation of Scripture is illogical and inherently dangerous.
"YOU are Peter, and on THIS rock I will build MY church...whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." - Matt 16
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter
I mean I want to serve God ultimately and if homosexuality is a sin, then it's a sin. However, I am also aware of that man is not God and thus it is at least plausible that someone may have had prejudices in their translations. So I think a careful study of the orignal texts is needed, also a careful consideration of the NT is also neccessary for Christ fufilled the orignal Law.
Jim1905 1 year ago
@Jim1905 You can study day/night, and someone will STILL disagree with you. Private interpretation is insanity. See where Christ gave us authority:
Irenaeus AD 189 “The blessed apostles handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus.”
Tertullian AD 200 “You have Rome where authority is at hand for us too.”
Cyprian AD 251 “If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter can he still be confident that he is in the Church?”
Jerome AD 396 “Peter the rock on which the Church has been built.”
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter
And we also must be clear at the time and context in which the bible was written; Homosexuality for the greeks and pagans was another form of fornication. I think I would feel awful if I thought God does not tolerate homosexual activity (whom are married) and it turns out that I was wrong. Of course the converse is true too, that's why it's so important to understand the holy text and the writitngs of the church fathers and saints.
Jim1905 1 year ago
@Jim1905 Follow the authoritative Teachings of the Catholic Church, and you'll never be wrong!
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter ...
1. Crosses aren't inherently religious.
2. I am not "confused", I know where I stand. My "Catholicness" is a cultural (Italian) thing, not a religious belief.
3. "Get real ...", aren't we being a tad bit hypocritical with that statement.
4. I think you need to invest in a new sarcasm detector.
May the force be with you and Darwin bless! :)
xXxRetroSquirrelxXx 1 year ago
@xXxRetroSquirrelxXx
Crosses aren't inherently religious?
A person's Catholicism is "cultural"?
Saying "Get Real" where it is justified makes it hypocritical?
I need a new "sarcasm detector" because I pointed out your error?
Wow. You now force me to retract my previous statement.
You are actually even MORE confused than I initially thought.
Say Bah Bye Tallulah ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
Marrige as in the the religious ceramony in a church, is different than simply obtaining a marrige license from the courthouse. Making same sex marrige legal would only make it legal to get married in they eyes of the state, not the church (hence seperation of church and state). The government can't force a church to marry a same sex couple, so any fears one may have about that are unfounded. Ugh, stop reading into the Bible so much, most of it is made up. :) †
xXxRetroSquirrelxXx 1 year ago
@xXxRetroSquirrelxXx
It seems you're confused. First you state that much of Holy Scripture is 'made up', then you put a cross at the end of your post?
Ugh.
Stop making something that is of God which has passed the test of time (The Holy Bible) to be false, while wrongly believing comments from uninspired men are true (you).
You and I will be dead someday, but the Word of God will live on and continue to grow throughout the world (as it has been).
Get real Retro, before it's too late ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@xXxRetroSquirrelxXx Are you gay?
ChrisDaron 1 year ago
A Brief Message To Confused Catholics ('BandofSorensons' and others): Some catholics have their heart in the right place, but their theology/philosophy had gone astray a long, long time ago. In their confusion, they have developed a mix of ideas that make them ill-prepared to fight the good fight. Sad.
Welcome to the war,
The longest war in history.
Whoever loses this,
Lives with the consequences …
FOREVER.
It’s the war for your soul.
Are you ready for the fight?
Eternity is worth the fight.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
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bobbyke31 1 year ago
@bobbyke31 God didn't 'create' people's brains to be homosexual or bi-sexual (that's the whole point of the video). God is perfect, but this world is not. This is a fallen world and things go wrong here (alcoholism, drug addiction, homosexuality, etc.). But God never leaves us without a way to battle those deficiencies. You say that 'it is all from the brain', but that is incorrect. Catholic Theology has always taught the brain and the soul are linked. IMPERFECT SOULS = IMPERFECT BEHAVIOR (SIN)
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
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bobbyke31 1 year ago
@bobbyke31 The solution that Jesus gave to homosexuals (and everyone else who lives a life of sin) is the Sacraments and living a Holy Life. If a person genuinely embraces the love of Christ through His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, then the healing process has already begun. But it takes work and Faith bob. St. Paul said "I have ran the race and fought the good fight". Now that sounds like work. And no person on earth can be lonely If they have Christ. That's the Church's teaching ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
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bobbyke31 1 year ago
@bobbyke31 1) It's not 'straight people' telling homosexuals how they should run their life. It is Jesus Christ, The Son Of The Living God (speaking through the Church He instituted in 33ad) who is telling them how to run their life. Don't like that? Then it seems your problem is actually with Christ then. 2) It is grossly illogical to say you have to sit down with someone to know that what they're doing wrong. Try that as a defense in court. They'll laugh out loud as they go to lock you up ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
Romans 1:26-28
'For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another,
men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God,
God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.'
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
Leviticus 20:13
'If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.'
1 Corinthian 6:9-10
'Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.'
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
This is PROOF to the unlearned that the Catholic Church ALWAYS maintained an interest in Philosophy: "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND PHILOSOPHY" (Cath Encycl.) 'The principles which govern the doctrinal relations of philosophy and theology have moved the Catholic Church to INTERVENE on various occasions in the history of philosophy. As to the Church's RIGHT and DUTY to intervene for the purpose of maintaining the integrity of theological dogma and the deposit of faith, there is NO NEED OF DISCUSSION.'
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
EvodiusTheophile asks 'what is philosophy?" Simply put, philosophy is a way of thinking. And proper philosophy is a way of thinking in accordance with God and His irreversible Teachings. He asks "where is this in Tradition and Scripture?" MY GOODNESS, IT'S EVERYWHERE. EVERYWHERE. How frustrating it is to try and help those who do not seem to want to learn. People, start reading Church History, the Church Fathers, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with the Bible at it's side.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@pkiverson The very foundation of the US (and the world) is BASED on Judeo- Christian values. Do your homework pk. The 1st amendment and 1st Commandment are NOT opposed to each other (I just explained this in a recent post) you just don't have the ability see it correctly because of your sinful inclinations and the immoral situation you are in. And by 'license', I mean "something that is NOT a God given right", which therefore automatically qualifies it as being without any value ('worthless').
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter Perhaps you can explain it to me. The 1st commandment implies that it is a sin to worship any other God other than the Judeo-Christian one. Yet we have the freedom in this country to freely worship any God we choose without penalty from the government - in fact, all churches get a tax-exempt status.
When you speak of gay marriage, this is a sin. But you argue that we should not have the freedom to do so?
Why should we have the freedom to do one, but not the other?
pkiverson 1 year ago
@pkiverson It comes down to this being a predominantely Christian nation. A country that allows freedom of religion that has free elections of which most it's citizens are Christian (as is the US) will have those Christians voting their moral conscience. When they do, the people will reflect God's Will and refuse gay marriage. Those Christians also know that they must adhere to the 1st Commandment. So as long as this counntry is Christian, they will vote against the false notion of gay narriage.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter You still did not answer my question. You recognize the right to have the freedom to sin by worshiping other gods. Most people recognize the right to divorce for any reason - even most Christians would not seek to make this illegal, despite it being non-biblical.
Yet, you do not recognize my right to "sin" (at least in your eyes) by marrying my partner? What is the difference? Our country was founded on liberty & justice for all, not as a Christian theocracy.
pkiverson 1 year ago
@pkiverson You still did not understand my answer. God's Laws are not subdued by man's laws if those laws subvert Truth. So if a nation is predominantly Christian, it will reflect more of His Truth and find itself governing as God demands. The fact that a "Christian" nation is not in full accordance with God's Truth in no way undermines or nullifies it's Truthful laws, not does it ever make right a nation's laws which are opposed to Truth. Homosexual marriage is WRONG. Get over it already ...
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter I think you still did not understand my question, because you didn't respond. I'm making an analogy between the 1st amendment and gay marriage.
The 1st amendment protects our right to sin by worshiping other Gods. Would you be for its repeal? Or do you recognize that it is right to have the freedom to choose to sin?
If you do recognize that it is right that we have that freedom, why should we not be allowed to marry who we please also - even if it is sinful?
pkiverson 1 year ago
@pkiverson I get your question fine, but because you CHOOSE to live a life that's an abomination to Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, you can't understand my answer. The reason for this is found in Romans 1:28 - 'And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.' There you go. St. Paul says because you do not acknowledge God, you have a base mind and can't understand reason. And until you seek God, talking to you is useless. BYE
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@pkiverson I think that this argument is sound. The laws that govern this nation are not Christian and the Church ought not be bound up with or confused with the political order of man. Christ is the ruler of the New Jerusalem, not the United States. It is fine to do all we can, as Christians, to persuade and pray for non-believers (and I mean, all we can) but I do not think that codifying our moral principles, into civil laws, is going to lead people to the Truth or save souls.
BandofSorensons 1 year ago
@BandofSorensons While the moral laws that govern this nation are not all Catholic (and therefore not entirely based in Truth) the origin for any law that is right/just IS Catholic. Every just law (from whatever nation) can only come from Jesus Christ and His Church. And the more that people/nations/leaders ARE genuinely Catholic, the better off it will be. In this fallen world, every baptized Catholic is obligated to try and bring as much of their faith into the world as possible. PEACE
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter I completely agree with the end, but I question the method. Either way though, I am glad to know that there are people out there (like you and Fr. Rodriguez) who love God. Courage is the work of the Holy Spirit. I used to live in El Paso (a tremendously SAD diocese) and would have loved to meet Fr. Rodriguez.
BandofSorensons 1 year ago
@BandofSorensons What method exactly are you questioning? Regarding El Paso, yes, there are many sad diocese in this world. A study of Church History reveals up and down times. But as Catholics we know Christ did not promise us the people in His Church would be perfect. He did promise us though that the Teaching Church would never err on Faith or Morals until the end of the world. So if we do find ourselves in a sad diocese (as do I) then at least we can still find Truth by looking to Rome. AMEN
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter The method is not one of prayer and persuasion or example but instead it is an attempt to politically change (a quixotic notion) civil law such that homosexuals cannot benefit from the same privileges as straight people in "civil", that is to say, non-sacramental marriages. El Paso is a particularly bad diocese, and there are indeed quite good dioceses in the US. I'm not sure if Christ ever literally said the Church wouldn't err on "Faith and morals", but you are right.
BandofSorensons 1 year ago
@BandofSorensons Who says that Prayer/Persuasion are the only means which the Faithful can use to fight sin? And at Fr. Un., did you ever learn about John the Baptist? St. John publicly reproached Herod for his illicit marriage and paid for it with his life (Christ called him 'the greatest of the prophets'). And you are correct when you state that marriage is a PRIVILEGE (and NOT a right). Regarding the Church not erring, read Matt 16:18,19. Gee. What exactly did you learn at Fr. Un. anyways?
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter Public reproachment is what I mean by persuasion. John did not attempt to address civil laws but he went straight to the people. All Christians are called to speak out publicly against evil and to proclaim the Gospel. Yet I am not sure that telling the el paso city council that they shouldn't pay out benefits equitably to their employees entails this. It would be better to focus on Christ instead of politics. Only councils and ex-cathedra Dogmas cannot be in err.
BandofSorensons 1 year ago
@BandofSorensons John defended God's Laws by rebuking a leader who was in direct violation of His Laws. So what he did was even MORE profound, not less. Therefore, your point is moot. Regarding what your not 'sure' about, the Truth remains that the more a government supports SIN (i.e., 'paying out benefits to gays thus recognizing their illicit union') then the more likely it will FAIL. And councils/dogmas IS how the Church teaches. But you said you weren't 'sure'. Now your just back stepping.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@ChristianFirefighter That was actually my point (referring to John). The second thing you say makes no sense at all, it is not necessarily true that human societies fall because of sinful laws. China has sinful laws and yet has risen to be a burgeoning economic superpower. The papal states on the other hand were conquered and discarded long ago. The Church mostly teaches via the "ordinary magisterium", not the "extraordinary magisterium". There's a big difference there, one is infallible.
BandofSorensons 1 year ago
@BandofSorensons You PERSIST in missing the point because John did MORE than what YOU were saying was ALREADY too much. You're back pedaling again, cut it out. And how spiritually nearsighted can one be to mention something as obtuse as 'China is a superpower so sinful societies can't fail'. Ultimately, ALL sinful societies MUST fail. Wake up. And the Church teaches AUTHORITATIVELY through Peter and all the Bishops in union with him when it speaks specifically and consistently the same message.
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago
@pkiverson
Pkiverson - The laws of man are one thing and the laws of God are another. If man, who created these laws were close to God, they would have made the laws according to the Ten Commandments. Man can make how ever many laws they see fit to man, but the laws of God are made according to the way God wants us to live. You could follow as many laws (made from man) and feel you are a good citizen, but if they are in conflict to God's laws, then you lose your soul.
cn1113 1 year ago
TO ONE AND ALL: incredulosity (and others) have been blocked because they do not want to try and understand my answers, but with their hard heart they post just to be argumentative. I fear that even if Christ sat before them, they would still not believe. As such, I follow Christ's instructions when the Apostles were rejected for teaching The Good News: Matthew 10-14 "And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town."
ChristianFirefighter 1 year ago