@dman1311974 A damn drunk who was a closet homosexual, and talked shit and got popular and kept lying till he was totally ignored then drank himself to death
The war on terror under Bush is McCarthyism on steroids!!! How many people have been accused of being a terrorist in the United States?? What happens when they're accused? They are followed and watched and and their lives are turned upside down! The Patriot Act was unconsitutional and an act of Treason, and further more a form of modern day McCARTHYISM!!!!!
jo mccarthy wasnt as bad as those communist leader/regimes, but ya, he was pretty much the same idea, people should read the crucible and understand why mccarthy was such a messed up troll
The Tea Party People do not Stereotype period! The Tea Party People are the most normal people that live in America! The Tea Party People, (1) love and cherish Freedom, (2) love and cherish Liberty, (3) want to have the least amount of Government possible, (4) they want to keep as much of their own money as possible, (5) they have a strong work ethic, (6) they want a strong standing military, (7) they love Capitalism and the free enterprise system, (8) they are pro safety and security + more!
Idiot... if it weren't for liberal policies that soften the burden of exploitation, capitalism would have destroyed itself long ago. Liberals have kept capitalism from eatoing itself alive, and McCarthy calls them commiecrats for that.
McCarthy is a massively misunderstood man in these modern times. Most think he was evil, corrupt, and sneaky. In actual fact, he was a well-informed, considerate, and open-faced man. He was as emphatic as he was bold, and stuck to his guns to the very end. And yet all we hear is how there were generic "thousands of people" who lost their to the supposedly terrible McCarthy.
@MerlinsJester Yeah and Stalin was a pretty good guy too, they just keep talking about those millions that lost were killed because he had a bad day(Misunderstanding is all)
The fact that this man convinced even one person that he had pure motives, proves the terrifying stupidity of this country. I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't see him for what he was. How easily you are mislead.
The people exposed by McCarthy were exactly the kind of disloyal, two-faced, back-stabbing weasels you often encounter in the entertainment industry.
While many millions of innocents were being tortured and executed during the height of Stalin's purges, the spies exposed by McCarthy were using their positions at the State Department to pass important documents to the Soviets.
Joe McCarthy, an ex-Marine and thoroughly decent man, was right all along. Those on the Left, who had long controlled the media and press, chose to smear him for generations to come, in order to prevent America's long-suffering silent majority from waking up and seeing the true extent of treason and communist infiltration going on in their country. That McCarthy could explain this forcefully and understandably was why these traitors were so afraid of him.
@happyuk06 You think, just because the comunist party existed in the USA that McCarthy was right to prosecute and destroy hundreds of innocent people ? If you do you're a sadist.
Prosecute? You mean persecute? It was far far more the other way around. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies This is despite the fact that Communism has spread more misery than even Nazism. Name me one person falsely accused by McCarthy.
Don't mention Lawrence Duggan, he was a Soviet spy responsible for having innocent people murdered. Contrary to popular liberal smears, Duggan was the only suicide, leaping from a window after being questioned by the FBI. Given the people he was doing business with, he may have been pushed. Decrypted Soviet cables and documents from Soviet archives prove that Lawrence Duggan was one of Stalin's most important spies. McCarthy didn't kill him, his guilt did.
@happyuk06 Of course McCarthy had some material to work with but only because a person used to be a Communist doesn't mean he is a national threat. McCarthy was paranoid and created a national-wide panic. Now i will not mention Duggan but i will mention Edward Dymtryk, Ring Lardner Jr, Dalton Trumbo, Lester Cole, Don Hollenbeck, Milo Radulovich, Micheal Gordon and that's just of the top of my head. And like Edward R. Murrow said: The line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one.
McCarthy is slowly being vindicated. I am sure history will be kinder to him. The panic you talk of was media manufactured. The vast majority of suspects were in sensitive government positions. Some were not an immediate threat to national security, but the American people have a right to expect that their public servants are loyal to their government, not to some foreign power that detested their way of life.
@happyuk06 But what about the actors and directors who had no way to harm the people in those days. Than the celebrities had much less influence than now. I don't like communism or it's ideas but boy am i glad McCarthy was censured.
@happyuk06 its a Good Family time to see that the Same Scum bags then who were pointing fingers at people they didnt like and supported THE TRUE COMMIE McCarthy would still glady jump up and point more fingers today saying someone is UnAmerican for thinking they are free to think.
Your Hero died a drunk who lied to his Military Commanders and received false awards for lying about him him slipping on a mop bucket like some Third Stooge while he was safely at the base.
Oh no, he said the C word, and the S word, it is time for me to drool like Pavlov's dog, I think not. Given the 20/20 vision of hindsight I can see that the role of the government in each market is open to debate and not sweeping generalizations. Whether it is a government program, free enterprise, a regulated monopoly, or any hybridization, I will keep an open mind and make my decision based upon the merits of the argument, not the emotion of the rhetoric, or any dogma of the day.
My brother Markus Bott was tortured and murdered to stop him publishing in the internet. As a result of the BND torturing my brother our hompage had been offline between 2005 and the end of 2009. Censoring the internet through torture and murder is of concern to everyone using the internet or running a homepage.
@Bluedog309 First you say the Lincoln Brigade was unfairly "labeled" as Commies, then you admit they were "very Leftist" and some WERE Communists. You can't have it both ways. Sure, some weren't, but enough were that it's no smear.
"Does that sound like a commie to own a business?"
Plenty of Communist Party members own(ed) businesses. If that's representative of the level of thought you put into your arguments, then it's a waste of time dealing with you.
@Bluedog309 Liberals love Che, Castro, Chavez, etc. etc. They wear world-famous super-special T-shirts of mass murderers like Che. Name one Nazi conservatives love.
@Bluedog309 On Benton, what am I "supposed" to say? Let's see, he tried to FORCE McCarthy out of office in a non-democratic fashion, then Benton lost a democratic election. What are you getting at? You think it was rigged by McCarthy or something? As for the Lincoln Brigade, they were ACTUAL COMMUNISTS. Like, literally card-carrying members. "Labeled"?? How bleeding obvious does it need to be? Last I checked, the SOVIETS fought against Germany; does this mean they weren't Communists?
@Bluedog309 I like how you use the qualifier "entire" when talking about the ACLU. Their ties to Communism are so well-established that even a Leftist like you feels he has to qualify it. I also like how you open with "McCarthy was Liar" when it's been *proven* that Lattimore lied to Congress and sided with Communists in China (spy or not, though a former Soviet diplomat DID testify under oath that he was). A very thorough Democrat panel McCarthy *wasn't on* ruled against Lattimore.
@Bluedog309 I never said McCarthy was perfect. Why are you addressing those comments to ME when numerous other people have posted more direct refutations of the stuff you're spouting? I could respond, but it's clear you are a hack and not an intellectually honest opponent, so I won't bother going into details, but - as has been pointed out here repeatedly - actual history, declassified documents, etc. vindicate much of what McCarthy did. He was not the evil caricature Leftists paint.
My dear Sanchez, can you name some of the "good americans" destroyed by McCarthy? You are putting up pretenses of having studied this period, but you obviously haven't done so in any meaningful way .Study those who McCarthy accused, and the evidence that has since come to light with regards to their guilt: self evident at the time, obscured for decades by a complicit pop culture media, and ultimately proven beyond all doubt after the evidence all floated to the surface.
@Lazyguy22 America would have won Vietnam if what? If we stayed another 10 years? If we sent another ten thousand bombs to Vietnam? To Laos? If we sent out another ten or thirty flights of Agent Orange? No, we would have not won Vietnam and that we stayed as long as we did is a testament to how much of a failure our leadership was until we withdrew. Staying in Vietnam as long as we did presented real consequences that hurt our foreign policy everywhere. Don't rewrite history.
@RedKatushya It is a well-accepted fact (at least among the intellectually honest) that we lost the Vietnam war because of POLITICIANS, not our military or the enemy. In fact, the enemy planned to surrender, but then WE suddenly pulled out, abandoning our allies to a grisly fate. WE DEFEATED OURSELVES by tying the hands of your military and allowing radical lying scumbags to spread bullcrap among the populace. The same Leftist crap has hampered us in recent conflicts, as well.
@canofsand No, we defeated ourselves by pushing the military into that situation and having American soldiers die by the thousands without any clear plan. We were supporting South Vietnam, a military dictatorship, against a Nationalist movement. How did the many other Nationalist movements worldwide view us badly for that? The US never came close to conquering North Vietnam and if we had stayed, we would still be there today. And Ron Paul is anti-war too so it's not just Liberals.
Fuck you, idiot. The fact that he managed to make so many people believe that the democrats wanted anything like communism or socialism clearly MUST illustrate that americans are either EXTREMELY gullible, or that your schooling system sucks.
@gulbirk McCarthy did no such thing. Their own words and actions painted that picture, and the same picture exists today if you've got the intellectual honesty, don't close your eyes to the facts, and don't redefine terms so as to avoid the truth. In the U.S. "socialist" is somewhat of a dirty word, yet Leftists here push policies that ARE socialist and point at SOCIALISTS as role models... but when we point this out, they lie, equivocate, and use logical fallacies to disguise facts.
@canofsand@canofsand I am very liberal. I am not a socialist. My role models are not socialists. There is no such thing as a logical fallacy. Nope. You made that up. You can point things out all you want and I won't lie, equivocate or wipe my ass. The things you point out clearly have nothing to do with the real world.
Oh, and one last thing: I am smarter than you. Why? Because no matter what you post, I'm not gonna read it. Nope. I have *important* things to do.
@GomerKierkegaard "There is no such thing as a logical fallacy. Nope. You made that up."
Wow, seriously? Go get an education. I'm not going to waste time trying to debate someone who doesn't even understand the most basic fundamentals of logic and debate.
@Bluedog309 You seem not to have read my entire comment, nor to have listened to McCarthy's entire speech. He was making a point that the vast majority of Dems were good, loyal Americans; but a small fringe element in that party were Commiecrats. I don't think all Dems are communists, I don't even think most Dems are communists, but I do know that the Communist Party USA endorsed (and still do) the current Democratic president and that he was mentored by a communist in his youth.
@Sistarovat That's understating it, actually. Both of Obama's parents were Marxists. His father abandoned him to go fight for the radical Leftists in foreign battles. His mother left him to live with his Marxist grandmother. And then she, trying to give him a father figure, connected him with a Marxist friend. In college, as Obama's autobiography attests, he sought out and socialized with the radicals in the student body and "Marxist professors" (his words). (more)
@Sistarovat (more) Then there's Rev. Wright. Sorry, Lefties, but spending 20 years attending the church of a racist, anti-American, Marxist anti-Semite who married you to your wife and "baptized" your children IS relevant. And don't you dare claim Wright isn't those things or Obama didn't realize what he was in those 20 years. Wright has always preached Black Liberation Theology. Do you self-blinding useful idiots even know what that is? Its very FOUNDATION is Marxism and racism!
@gilliancameronst Absolutely. As a Tea Partier, I would gladly vote for this man. That small Commiecrat minority in the fifties took control of the federal government in the sixities under LBJ and forever stripped America of the rule of law and the Constitution. I'm in college right now, studying to be a history teacher and that is definitely one part of America history that my students will learn about.
Keep hitting the books, you have much more to learn about this. And don't be just another gullible American who only believes in his pre-supposed biases. My HS history teacher was a conservative who was so closed-minded he alienated everybody willing to listen to him. Which wasn't any of us by week 3.
McCarthey was a hypocrite who destroyed himself and most of the people around him, and quite a few good Americans in his wake. Cohn also was a self-loathing, pathetic, tragic human being.
@sanchez47715 Such severe psychological projection. You've got a history teacher... with a class full of indoctrinated students who tune him out because he was "closed-minded" - AKA didn't accept YOUR so-called "pre-supposed" (maybe you're looking for "preconceived"?) biases.
@canofsand who said the class was indoctrinated? We were ignorant 14 year olds, 35 years ago. But even a thoughtful teenager can recognize someone incapable of understanding the polarities of an argument, and the shades of grey between them. In that context, "pre-supposed" is correct. That was actually part of McCarthy's problem- anyone with associations to communism at any time in the past or present was fair game, even if the associations were marginal or 30 years in the past.
@sanchez47715 If we're going to continue picking at words, let me just note that "preconceived" is still the better term for what you're going for... and "presuppose" doesn't have a hyphen. More importantly, the characterizations of a conservative history teacher and his class by a Leftist don't carry much weight at the best of times, let alone when the student attended his class 35 years ago. Just saying.
Every so often I come back to this guy, especially when I teach The Crucible. I'm always blown away at what a transparently obvious opportunist and general douchebag he was. The most frightening thing about him is how strongly he would be welcomed by today's GOP and teabaggers. Some people simply do not learn.
@gilliancameronst it is you who "simply haven't learned." Today there is no excuse for your ignorance, as the evidence is all in, and it favors McCarthy.
@HaoWenXiang Communism is not a race so being anti-communist does NOT make one racist... "Not trying to sound stupid and plain so I'm gonna comment is a video for intellectuals and to make a smart argument..."
BTW I was just curious, is it possible for a liberal to make an argument WITHOUT referencing Hitler/Nazi? You clearly couldnt. Shit there is even another guy on this page who replied to me that referenced it.
...is currently some huge threat. And why do you continue to talk like I said McCarthy was my hero. I've already said I think he was wrong, I just think the big bad McCarthy Era is massively over dramatized. Just like during the Bush Administration all we ever heard was Bush was taking away our liberties & I dont know how many times I heard some TV libtard warn us that Bush was taking us down a path identical to Nazi Germany. Oh yea I can hardly tell the 2 eras apart
Since when does Bill Maher speak for all liberals. I've heard him defend Islam on his show but ur right I saw Religilous & I gotta give him credit b/c he didnt sell out & go easy on Muslims, I was surprised. But Maher's anti-religion stance is part of his celebrity profile.
'Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam’ -Rosie ODonnel
While on 'The View' Bill OReily said terrorist & Whoopi & Joy Behar were so offended they did this childish overly dramatic walk off...
...BTW a witch hunt would imply I have no basis for my claim
-How often do liberals bad mouth every religion but defend islam, they even flip out if someone says terrorist
-or all the liberal celebrities who casually call Bush Hitler but love Fidel Castro
-Sean Penn who visited Hugo Chavez then went on Letterman to sing praises about the man. He even defended Hugo's decision to shut down a media network that criticized hugo
Destroying innocent lives. His reign of terror lasted a few years before literally the whole country including his own party turned their back on him, history records him a disgrace. That sounds like a testament to how much we value freedom here. He was wrong. But he wasnt pulling names out of a hat b/c he was bored, spies were infiltrating our country. Look up the Venona Project. And thank you for proving my point of how often liberals say McCarthy to people who disagree with them..
What a great, great man. I tell you, we need this guy back... now more then ever, to help us rid the streets of the smelly unwashed pinko menace camped out in our parks today.
What a great man he was a great American were would this country be without men like Senator McCathy,Abe Lincon,MLK,JFK,and RFK. There is only one word for Senator McCarthy and that is "PATRIOT"
We've been conditioned to believe by mainstream media, talk shows, TV 'documentaries', Hollywood celebrities, and Woody Allen movies- that the 'witch Hunt' of the early 1950's was the work of a deranged alcoholic named Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was obsessed with a crazy notion that caused great harm and suffering to innocent Hollywood writers, etc. It now seems that Joseph McCarthy was far more accurate and more of a true patriot than we had been led to believe.
@keithwarner A true patriot?!!!....Only a Republican would even entertain such an insane statement! For years, Conservative extremists have tried to silence those who oppose their views by trying to label them as "UN-American". And as far as media goes, Rupert Murdoch now has more control over media than any other group on Earth. People have a right to hear opposing views and beliefs, in this country and all countries!
@Thefting2323 How was he being dumb? And really? Was the racial slur even necessary? I don't think so. The only reason why people demonized McCarthy, was because he was getting to close to the truth! They even tried to demonize Mother Teresa, so what makes you think that McCarthy was wrong? When he was saying that a little over 1% of the Army was communists, he underestimated the ammount. Though, not most were communists, a lot of the men helped, and even worked with the communists.
McCarthy was right and communists are still wrong; they're just stuck in Red Square circa 1917, licking their collective chops at the prospect of seizing what isn't theirs. Nazis commited genocide according to ethnicity and Bolsheviks commited genocide based on economic class. The DNC subscribes to the latter, i.e. Obama vs Middle Class.
@ForsakenEagle McCarthy did have it right, I wished I realized it before ... I was brainwashed but now I see..... I have to do more research for the sake of my own mind..... and soul....
My dad left me his Korean war picture album after he passed away. One grainy black and white photo shows a large number of dead Chinese soldiers with the caption- commie assault force meets American artillery. McCarthy wasn't the only American that hated communists with a passion.
To me Sen. Joe McCarthy might of been one of the first Neoconservatives and a believer in the "National Security State". To go after Communists Americans.
Mcarthy was definitely un-american for all he did but ya know as bad as his reputation is guess what all those people he attacked ACTUALLY WERE COMMUNISTS & communism was a much bigger deal back then. He was doing what he thought was right to protect his country. However this is america & it doesnt matter how extreme we cant penalize people for their beliefs.
But still its ridiculous how the liberal media, or liberals in general, are always defending enemies of this country. WTF is up with that
@mikedd56 That's a load of crap, many of them were NOT Communists. And NO, Communism was not a "big deal", the idea of destroying peoples' lives because of what they thought goes directly in the face of everything this nation stands for. He was not "protecting his country" he was protecting a party, a viewpoint, and killing freedom along the way.
There is no "liberal media", and socialists or Marxists are NOT "enemies of this country". The media NEVER defends them, even when they should.
The Nazi's were also doing what they though was right for their country. That's a pathetic excuse. Don't do what you think is 'right for your country'. Do what is right for humanity, that of others and yourself. Research before you do what you think is 'right for your country'.
In the Netherlands, neofascists like Geert Wilders, who want to ban books and cartoons, are gaining foothold because of idiots who think they are doing 'what's right for the country'.
Heres what I love. Liberals like you only seem to hear what you want & just disregard shit. I clearly said he was doing what HE thought was right. Then I made it perfectly clear that doesnt justify his actions b/c we are free to think what we want. But he wasnt just going after hollywood types who thought communism was cool. Spies were infiltrating our country i.e. Venona Project
BTW try being original & not mention nazis/hitler like every other goddamn liberal that ever lived
Do what is right for yourself and others! Not what's right for the authoritarian slave masters! You are not an obedient drone, you are not a machine that can be programmed by your government as they see fit. You are a human! Stand up for human rights and freedom.
What a scumbag. Out of all of the people he went on the witchunt about..ruined there lives, got them deported, there were NO arrests. It was a simple political ploy by him and that scumbag Nixon. Take Richard Nixon and Rush Limbaugh- morph them and you get this slimebag.
You come across as an exquisitely classy individual. And I marvel at your magnificent use of the English language. I'll bet you're the Shining Star of your family, the one everybody wants to emulate.
Hmmmm, I still hate him, almost as much as I hate Olly North... I personally think that everyone should be allowed to overthrow the US government, it's a constitutional right!!!! :P Just kidding, I just value individual rights over fear tactics, and still to this day I fear that communism is not the greatest threat to the US, idiocy is. So please spay and neuter your idiots.
@letom82 Hitler isn't even a bad guy. A German victory in ww2 would have prevented Stalin/Mao from killing tens of millions under the banner of communism. Why do you whine about Hitler? What is your beef with Hitler? Is it the holocaust? Is that it? Well following that "atrocity" argument, Hitler is still more just than the allies of Communism which would be Roosevelt's communist infested government. Pointing out "Nazi!" or "Hitler!" is just you whining, nothing concrete added at all.
@EuroAmericanReich Yes that is are arguement. I am missing 52 relatives I will never see plus their heirs because of the Holocaust. Roosevelt had no Communist in his goverment. Roosevelt had anti semties in his cabinit which is why the USA didn't do anything when Germany invaded Czechoslovakia.
@LeighMet Sorry but you're completely wrong or lying. Roosevelt had spies Dean Acheson, and Alger Hiss convicted SOVIET spies as his advisers, don't forget harry dexter white, george c marshall, solomon adler, and I could go on and on of convicted spies for FDR's government.
"There is no threat here in communism, some of my best friends are communists" FDR.
Franklin Roosevelt guaranteed to Stalin at Yalta he could keep his conquered territory. Why are you lying about this, especially noproof
@EuroAmericanReich George Marshall author of the Marshall Plan. Former Sectary of State and Defense you think he was a communist. And you think I am wropng or lying. FDr didn't know how bad Stalin was when he made that deal.
@LeighMet Of course he was a communist, George Marshall told Chiang Kai Shek he would lose all US aid if he didn't accept Mao's communist bandits in his government. "FDR didn't know how bad Stalin was when he made that deal" Yes he did, all US Presidents refused to recognize the barbaric soviet government, but FDR in his first year of office recognized the USSR and started sending them aid. The league of nations cabled FDR and asked him to stop the chinese civil conflict "originated in Moscow"
@EuroAmericanReich where do you get your information from. THe General who was in charge of all of Europe not falling into the hands of the Communist was a Communist. are you for real
@LeighMet If you think what I say is inaccurate then search up what I say for yourself. Also, George Marshall was in Asia mostly. Eisenhower gave General Patton's fuel to the British General Montgomery, because Patton wanted to take Germany before the Soviets could get there, this resulted in the German's evacuating the Falaise Pocket, and regrouping to fight again in the ardennes. Eisenhower even told the USSR we would not interfere when they put down 1953 anti communist riots.
@LeighMet Why are you talking about after the war when I am talking about during the war? Come on now buddy.
George Marshal gave Chiang Kai Shek the ultimatum to accept communism or lose all US Aid. Chinese High Command ordered the all out attack on Mao to drive them to the 1000 mile march to Russia in order to negate this order from America. In response, FDR, Harry White, Morgenthau, Solomon Adler, Fixed the price of gold/silver illegally (Later legalized) crushing Chiang's economy.
Republicans like to pretend that they are the party of Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan. But the reality is--especially in the past few dacaded--they have proven themselves to be the party of Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon. Such a shame. How the mighty are fallen.
@TheStrong32 Not even Richard Nixon he had his issues but wasn't a nut. He actually tried to pass a health care bill that created an individual mandate - like the mandate all of the Republicans now are bitching about.
I am amazed at the hypocrisy that my country has shown in its history. We, who preach of our 1st Amendment, and the rights it grants, were so quick in this period to condemn those that might not think that Americas form of Democracy was perfect in every way. I'm no fan of communism, but to attack those that are the way that McCarthy did should have been an act of treason. If you truly believe in the 1st Amendment, you have to defend the rights of even those you disagree with.
@nordy2010 What your not realizing is, communism doesn't look to have an equal hand in a democracy like the Republican and democratic party does. But it seeks to over-throw the government and replace it with there own ideology... Kinda of like political Islam today.
Plus the fact that they were on the KGB's payroll means there a spy from a foreign nation.
@fargonbastedge Even if that's true, I submit that he should've been required to have proof; the fact that a mere allegation was all it took to end up in front of his hit squad, then be slandared for the rest of your life, was beyond rediculous to me. As I recall, the VERY large majority of lives he ruined were never a part of the communist party in any way.
@nordy2010 They did have evendence they had hearings and everything... Your totally ignoring the fact that they were communist and Mccarthy was right...
@nordy2010 Your first sentence, to be charitable, is a non sequitur. Witnesses tended to be government employees about whom allegations had been made and who McCarthy was giving the chance to set the record straight. Whose life did he ruin (and please don't say some actor or screenwriter)?. Read the transcripts of the executive session hearings McCarthy held. Do you realize he held most of his hearings behind closed doors precisely to protect witnesses from being needlessly slandered?
McCarthy defended a group of Nazis who massacred over 80 US troops in WWII. That says volumes about this man's character. Thankfully today, he is remembered as a complete fool by most normal americans. O'reilly, Beck and Hannity still regard him as a hero. Of course, they're Nazis.
@MrJtr1888 Can you tell me some important facts about McCarthyism? I know a lot by reading on the net, but it would not be a bad idea to get some information from people who are discussing it. I have an oral English exam tomorrow -.- Thanks in advance.
@MrJtr1888 Nazi's were right and just. You pretend Nazi's are war criminals, when FDR gave the criminal order for the US Navy to attack German/Italian ships on sight with no declaration of war. Where is your sense of equality and justice for all parties? Communists butcher many times more than the holocaust, and they are still in great power today continuing, all because of US/UK Anti-Nazi policy. History, and reality are not things you're interested in. Simple slogans/labels is your thing.
@TheStrong32 Yes I'm a Nazi, people already know this. Pointing it out doesn't substitute for lack of education or historical knowledge, and it doesn't substitute for a complete lack of moral judgement on world wars. All it does is show that you are too emotionally sensitive to think about these things. Hitler was fighting criminals who were advancing bolshevism which killed tens of millions. Interesting that an opponent of Hitler once again has nothing concrete to add.
There probably were Soviet spies in the government. But McCarthy didn't find any of them. He just made baseless accusations against people, who were pretty much harmless. He was a horrible person and the antithesis of what it means to be an American.
@aquagrl63 Actually, declassified documents prove he DID find quite a few spies. A great example of the Left's disgusting pro-Communist bias is that if you talk to them about the Rosenbergs, you'll hear all kinds of sympathy... yet it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were traitors.
McCarthy was right, but he had the name wrong. he was searching for something. A true Patriot, who tried to save America, i'm sad to say he failed. We are inching towards socialism every day. If you're a socialist/communist i gots no beef with ya. but this country isn't a communist/socialist country. go somewhere else.
@erizzow i actually agree with you, and i am a socialist, not a hippie, not a communist. The US would fail as a socialist nation completely. Too many lazy people who would leach off the system. In turn, it would collapse. I have accepted this about my country. But, i have also accepted that we will always be under control and monitored regardless of what party is in power. We either bow to the capitalist corporations or bow to the gov't. I will choose the ones I can at least vote out of power.
I have to ask this: What is so terrible about being a Communist? Even if all of these people were Communists, it didn't mean that they were passing secrets to the USSR or trying to undermine the country. Why aren't people allowed to hold different viewpoints?
@aquagrl63 Oh, dear, this is getting to be painful. I am sure you are the loveliest of young ladies, the apple of every eye that lights upon your visage, but please think before you speak. Check out the books of people like Ronald Radosh, Alan Weinstein, and the team of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr (None of them McCarthyites by any means). Their research has concluded that being a Communist at that time meant giving one's allegiance entirely to the Soviet Union.
@aquagrl63 What is so terrible about being a Communist is that communism is the twin sister of fascism. Pls. read books by Anne Applebaum, Robert Conquest or Evegenia Ginzburg to see my point.
@aquagrl63, you're right. I make the same point with people all the time. What's so terrible about being a Nazi? Aren't people allowed to hold different viewpoints?
@aquagrl63, funny, I knew that would be your response. But the point obviously went right over your head. So I'll be explicit: You asked if people were allowed to hold different viewpoints, implying that, somehow, freedom of thought and speech is enough to forestall condemnation (which, mind you, is also the exercise of free speech). Well, Nazism is a viewpoint, too. However, you now imply that the critical thing is the nature of that viewpoint, whether it's good or bad. Bingo.
@aquagrl6, it's not just a matter of "Oh, well, he has an opinion and has a right to it." It matters what that opinion is, because there is NO MORAL RIGHT to an immoral opinion (a legal right is a different matter). So we have to analyze, logically, the opinion in question. And communism is an evil, destructive ideology. As for the difference between Nazism and communism, the Nazis murdered 11 million people during the 20th century. The communists murdered 100 million. Learn your history.
@aquagrl63, if you have sympathy for communism -- an ideology whose adherents brutally killed millions in concentration camps and elsewhere -- there is something seriously wrong with your sense of morality. It is not a "viewpoint" held by good people. You are obviously not someone to be trusted.
@sealman546 What do you mean "can't refute his charges"? Aren't people innocent until proven guilty? The burden of proof rested on him. Did he even find any Communists? And if he did, were they causing the country any harm? It isn't illegal to hold differing views. How did he make America any safer?
@aquagrl63 Wow, what an astonishing ignorance of history. Read Blacklisted By History:Evans uses original source material to dispel the left lies about McCarthy. By the way, McCarthy was never interested in exposing individual communists. As chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations(whose job it was to investigate the government) he was focused on exposing the system whereby individuals with questionable loyalty records could make their way into sensitive government positions.
@sealman546 McCarthy wasn't focusing on anything. He just wanted to get re-elected so he picked a hot button issue and ran with it. You haven't answered my question. Did McCarthy make America safer? What did he contribute to this country other than a climate of fear? I really want to know your answer.
@aquagrl63 I'm afraid you are woefully ignorant on this subject. Regarding McCarthy's contributions, first of all he lit a fire under a lax Democrat administration in 1950-52: numerous documented cases of security and loyalty risks were ignored by Truman in the period 1945-50 and were only dealt with after Mccarthy's initial charges. We're talking about (for the most part) State department employees who failed the Truman loyalty standards and were not dismissed. (continued in next post)
@aquagrl63 Second, his committee undertook a number of important investigations: The condition of the State Department loyalty files; investigation of the Office of the High Commissioner of Germany; removal of Communist authors from USIA overseas libraries; investigation of Communists in the Government Printing Office; investigation of the location of a Voice of America transmitter whose signal would not reach the Soviet Union. (Continued with next post)
Joe McCarthy= Hero
dman1311974 1 day ago
@dman1311974 A damn drunk who was a closet homosexual, and talked shit and got popular and kept lying till he was totally ignored then drank himself to death
holdupdown 19 hours ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The war on terror under Bush is McCarthyism on steroids!!! How many people have been accused of being a terrorist in the United States?? What happens when they're accused? They are followed and watched and and their lives are turned upside down! The Patriot Act was unconsitutional and an act of Treason, and further more a form of modern day McCARTHYISM!!!!!
verynicelookingguy27 5 days ago
I can only dream of a politician with the balls today to call Obama a commiecrat...
AlexNOSAM 5 days ago
jo mccarthy wasnt as bad as those communist leader/regimes, but ya, he was pretty much the same idea, people should read the crucible and understand why mccarthy was such a messed up troll
MrBigEnchilada 5 days ago
If Joe were to see today's Democrats,he would make no exceptions.
ImDavidGurney 1 week ago
The Tea Party People do not Stereotype period! The Tea Party People are the most normal people that live in America! The Tea Party People, (1) love and cherish Freedom, (2) love and cherish Liberty, (3) want to have the least amount of Government possible, (4) they want to keep as much of their own money as possible, (5) they have a strong work ethic, (6) they want a strong standing military, (7) they love Capitalism and the free enterprise system, (8) they are pro safety and security + more!
NOBULLANDNOSPIN 1 week ago
@NOBULLANDNOSPIN God I hope they are not Normal, just nuke us all now then.
midas12354783 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@NOBULLANDNOSPIN God I hope they are not Normal, just nuke us all now then.
midas12354783 1 week ago
@NOBULLANDNOSPIN
You want as little government as possible?" Go to Somalia. That's what you get when you have as little government as possible.
ryokomocha 1 week ago
Idiot... if it weren't for liberal policies that soften the burden of exploitation, capitalism would have destroyed itself long ago. Liberals have kept capitalism from eatoing itself alive, and McCarthy calls them commiecrats for that.
prschuster 2 weeks ago
My hero. We needed many peoples like him !
TremendoGallo 3 weeks ago 2
McCarthy is a massively misunderstood man in these modern times. Most think he was evil, corrupt, and sneaky. In actual fact, he was a well-informed, considerate, and open-faced man. He was as emphatic as he was bold, and stuck to his guns to the very end. And yet all we hear is how there were generic "thousands of people" who lost their to the supposedly terrible McCarthy.
MerlinsJester 3 weeks ago
@MerlinsJester Yeah and Stalin was a pretty good guy too, they just keep talking about those millions that lost were killed because he had a bad day(Misunderstanding is all)
midas12354783 1 week ago
The fact that this man convinced even one person that he had pure motives, proves the terrifying stupidity of this country. I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't see him for what he was. How easily you are mislead.
DefeatedElitist 3 weeks ago
The people exposed by McCarthy were exactly the kind of disloyal, two-faced, back-stabbing weasels you often encounter in the entertainment industry.
While many millions of innocents were being tortured and executed during the height of Stalin's purges, the spies exposed by McCarthy were using their positions at the State Department to pass important documents to the Soviets.
happyuk06 4 weeks ago
Joe McCarthy, an ex-Marine and thoroughly decent man, was right all along. Those on the Left, who had long controlled the media and press, chose to smear him for generations to come, in order to prevent America's long-suffering silent majority from waking up and seeing the true extent of treason and communist infiltration going on in their country. That McCarthy could explain this forcefully and understandably was why these traitors were so afraid of him.
happyuk06 1 month ago
@happyuk06 You think, just because the comunist party existed in the USA that McCarthy was right to prosecute and destroy hundreds of innocent people ? If you do you're a sadist.
docwho97 4 weeks ago
@docwho97
Prosecute? You mean persecute? It was far far more the other way around. Liberals had to destroy McCarthy because he exposed the entire liberal establishment as having sheltered Soviet spies This is despite the fact that Communism has spread more misery than even Nazism. Name me one person falsely accused by McCarthy.
happyuk06 4 weeks ago
@docwho97
Don't mention Lawrence Duggan, he was a Soviet spy responsible for having innocent people murdered. Contrary to popular liberal smears, Duggan was the only suicide, leaping from a window after being questioned by the FBI. Given the people he was doing business with, he may have been pushed. Decrypted Soviet cables and documents from Soviet archives prove that Lawrence Duggan was one of Stalin's most important spies. McCarthy didn't kill him, his guilt did.
happyuk06 4 weeks ago
@happyuk06 Of course McCarthy had some material to work with but only because a person used to be a Communist doesn't mean he is a national threat. McCarthy was paranoid and created a national-wide panic. Now i will not mention Duggan but i will mention Edward Dymtryk, Ring Lardner Jr, Dalton Trumbo, Lester Cole, Don Hollenbeck, Milo Radulovich, Micheal Gordon and that's just of the top of my head. And like Edward R. Murrow said: The line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one.
docwho97 3 weeks ago
@docwho97
McCarthy is slowly being vindicated. I am sure history will be kinder to him. The panic you talk of was media manufactured. The vast majority of suspects were in sensitive government positions. Some were not an immediate threat to national security, but the American people have a right to expect that their public servants are loyal to their government, not to some foreign power that detested their way of life.
happyuk06 3 weeks ago
@happyuk06 But what about the actors and directors who had no way to harm the people in those days. Than the celebrities had much less influence than now. I don't like communism or it's ideas but boy am i glad McCarthy was censured.
docwho97 3 weeks ago
@happyuk06 its a Good Family time to see that the Same Scum bags then who were pointing fingers at people they didnt like and supported THE TRUE COMMIE McCarthy would still glady jump up and point more fingers today saying someone is UnAmerican for thinking they are free to think.
Your Hero died a drunk who lied to his Military Commanders and received false awards for lying about him him slipping on a mop bucket like some Third Stooge while he was safely at the base.
midas12354783 1 week ago
mccarthy bastard. hope your burning in hell
lolsean 1 month ago
Oh no, he said the C word, and the S word, it is time for me to drool like Pavlov's dog, I think not. Given the 20/20 vision of hindsight I can see that the role of the government in each market is open to debate and not sweeping generalizations. Whether it is a government program, free enterprise, a regulated monopoly, or any hybridization, I will keep an open mind and make my decision based upon the merits of the argument, not the emotion of the rhetoric, or any dogma of the day.
Zyworski 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
My brother Markus Bott was tortured and murdered to stop him publishing in the internet. As a result of the BND torturing my brother our hompage had been offline between 2005 and the end of 2009. Censoring the internet through torture and murder is of concern to everyone using the internet or running a homepage.
wwwtotalitaerde 1 month ago
@Bluedog309 First you say the Lincoln Brigade was unfairly "labeled" as Commies, then you admit they were "very Leftist" and some WERE Communists. You can't have it both ways. Sure, some weren't, but enough were that it's no smear.
"Does that sound like a commie to own a business?"
Plenty of Communist Party members own(ed) businesses. If that's representative of the level of thought you put into your arguments, then it's a waste of time dealing with you.
canofsand 1 month ago
@Bluedog309 As for your uncle, you taking reading what isn't there and taking offense is YOUR problem, not mine.
canofsand 1 month ago
Oh yeah... as if Roy Cohn is someone who's word carries so much weight in American history.
unclejeffj 1 month ago
@Bluedog309
CoolCatCreations 1 month ago
@Bluedog309 Liberals love Che, Castro, Chavez, etc. etc. They wear world-famous super-special T-shirts of mass murderers like Che. Name one Nazi conservatives love.
canofsand 1 month ago
@Bluedog309 On Benton, what am I "supposed" to say? Let's see, he tried to FORCE McCarthy out of office in a non-democratic fashion, then Benton lost a democratic election. What are you getting at? You think it was rigged by McCarthy or something? As for the Lincoln Brigade, they were ACTUAL COMMUNISTS. Like, literally card-carrying members. "Labeled"?? How bleeding obvious does it need to be? Last I checked, the SOVIETS fought against Germany; does this mean they weren't Communists?
canofsand 1 month ago
@Bluedog309 I like how you use the qualifier "entire" when talking about the ACLU. Their ties to Communism are so well-established that even a Leftist like you feels he has to qualify it. I also like how you open with "McCarthy was Liar" when it's been *proven* that Lattimore lied to Congress and sided with Communists in China (spy or not, though a former Soviet diplomat DID testify under oath that he was). A very thorough Democrat panel McCarthy *wasn't on* ruled against Lattimore.
canofsand 1 month ago 3
@Bluedog309 I never said McCarthy was perfect. Why are you addressing those comments to ME when numerous other people have posted more direct refutations of the stuff you're spouting? I could respond, but it's clear you are a hack and not an intellectually honest opponent, so I won't bother going into details, but - as has been pointed out here repeatedly - actual history, declassified documents, etc. vindicate much of what McCarthy did. He was not the evil caricature Leftists paint.
canofsand 1 month ago
History has completely vindicated McCarthy, yet most idiots don't even bother to see it.
bocanutz 1 month ago
@Bluedog309 "Typical of Tea Partier to stereotype"
Wow.. That's just... amazingly stupid. The irony is almost painful.
canofsand 1 month ago 10
.....what the fuck did this guy just say?
elo333333333 1 month ago
My dear Sanchez, can you name some of the "good americans" destroyed by McCarthy? You are putting up pretenses of having studied this period, but you obviously haven't done so in any meaningful way .Study those who McCarthy accused, and the evidence that has since come to light with regards to their guilt: self evident at the time, obscured for decades by a complicit pop culture media, and ultimately proven beyond all doubt after the evidence all floated to the surface.
melorkis 1 month ago 2
He was right about the Hollywood Ten. He wanted to go after the military, but public opinion turned against him.
This may sound sick, but maybe America would have won Vietnam if...
Lazyguy22 2 months ago
@Lazyguy22 America would have won Vietnam if what? If we stayed another 10 years? If we sent another ten thousand bombs to Vietnam? To Laos? If we sent out another ten or thirty flights of Agent Orange? No, we would have not won Vietnam and that we stayed as long as we did is a testament to how much of a failure our leadership was until we withdrew. Staying in Vietnam as long as we did presented real consequences that hurt our foreign policy everywhere. Don't rewrite history.
RedKatushya 1 month ago
@RedKatushya It is a well-accepted fact (at least among the intellectually honest) that we lost the Vietnam war because of POLITICIANS, not our military or the enemy. In fact, the enemy planned to surrender, but then WE suddenly pulled out, abandoning our allies to a grisly fate. WE DEFEATED OURSELVES by tying the hands of your military and allowing radical lying scumbags to spread bullcrap among the populace. The same Leftist crap has hampered us in recent conflicts, as well.
canofsand 1 month ago 3
@canofsand No, we defeated ourselves by pushing the military into that situation and having American soldiers die by the thousands without any clear plan. We were supporting South Vietnam, a military dictatorship, against a Nationalist movement. How did the many other Nationalist movements worldwide view us badly for that? The US never came close to conquering North Vietnam and if we had stayed, we would still be there today. And Ron Paul is anti-war too so it's not just Liberals.
RedKatushya 3 weeks ago
Fuck you, idiot. The fact that he managed to make so many people believe that the democrats wanted anything like communism or socialism clearly MUST illustrate that americans are either EXTREMELY gullible, or that your schooling system sucks.
gulbirk 2 months ago
@gulbirk McCarthy did no such thing. Their own words and actions painted that picture, and the same picture exists today if you've got the intellectual honesty, don't close your eyes to the facts, and don't redefine terms so as to avoid the truth. In the U.S. "socialist" is somewhat of a dirty word, yet Leftists here push policies that ARE socialist and point at SOCIALISTS as role models... but when we point this out, they lie, equivocate, and use logical fallacies to disguise facts.
canofsand 1 month ago 8
Comment removed
GomerKierkegaard 1 month ago
@canofsand @canofsand I am very liberal. I am not a socialist. My role models are not socialists. There is no such thing as a logical fallacy. Nope. You made that up. You can point things out all you want and I won't lie, equivocate or wipe my ass. The things you point out clearly have nothing to do with the real world.
Oh, and one last thing: I am smarter than you. Why? Because no matter what you post, I'm not gonna read it. Nope. I have *important* things to do.
GomerKierkegaard 1 month ago
@GomerKierkegaard "There is no such thing as a logical fallacy. Nope. You made that up."
Wow, seriously? Go get an education. I'm not going to waste time trying to debate someone who doesn't even understand the most basic fundamentals of logic and debate.
canofsand 1 month ago
lulz
necrosvrg 2 months ago
@Bluedog309 You seem not to have read my entire comment, nor to have listened to McCarthy's entire speech. He was making a point that the vast majority of Dems were good, loyal Americans; but a small fringe element in that party were Commiecrats. I don't think all Dems are communists, I don't even think most Dems are communists, but I do know that the Communist Party USA endorsed (and still do) the current Democratic president and that he was mentored by a communist in his youth.
Sistarovat 2 months ago
@Sistarovat That's understating it, actually. Both of Obama's parents were Marxists. His father abandoned him to go fight for the radical Leftists in foreign battles. His mother left him to live with his Marxist grandmother. And then she, trying to give him a father figure, connected him with a Marxist friend. In college, as Obama's autobiography attests, he sought out and socialized with the radicals in the student body and "Marxist professors" (his words). (more)
canofsand 1 month ago 3
@Sistarovat (more) Then there's Rev. Wright. Sorry, Lefties, but spending 20 years attending the church of a racist, anti-American, Marxist anti-Semite who married you to your wife and "baptized" your children IS relevant. And don't you dare claim Wright isn't those things or Obama didn't realize what he was in those 20 years. Wright has always preached Black Liberation Theology. Do you self-blinding useful idiots even know what that is? Its very FOUNDATION is Marxism and racism!
canofsand 1 month ago 4
@gilliancameronst Absolutely. As a Tea Partier, I would gladly vote for this man. That small Commiecrat minority in the fifties took control of the federal government in the sixities under LBJ and forever stripped America of the rule of law and the Constitution. I'm in college right now, studying to be a history teacher and that is definitely one part of America history that my students will learn about.
Sistarovat 2 months ago
Keep hitting the books, you have much more to learn about this. And don't be just another gullible American who only believes in his pre-supposed biases. My HS history teacher was a conservative who was so closed-minded he alienated everybody willing to listen to him. Which wasn't any of us by week 3.
McCarthey was a hypocrite who destroyed himself and most of the people around him, and quite a few good Americans in his wake. Cohn also was a self-loathing, pathetic, tragic human being.
sanchez47715 2 months ago
@sanchez47715 Such severe psychological projection. You've got a history teacher... with a class full of indoctrinated students who tune him out because he was "closed-minded" - AKA didn't accept YOUR so-called "pre-supposed" (maybe you're looking for "preconceived"?) biases.
canofsand 1 month ago
@canofsand who said the class was indoctrinated? We were ignorant 14 year olds, 35 years ago. But even a thoughtful teenager can recognize someone incapable of understanding the polarities of an argument, and the shades of grey between them. In that context, "pre-supposed" is correct. That was actually part of McCarthy's problem- anyone with associations to communism at any time in the past or present was fair game, even if the associations were marginal or 30 years in the past.
sanchez47715 1 month ago
@sanchez47715 If we're going to continue picking at words, let me just note that "preconceived" is still the better term for what you're going for... and "presuppose" doesn't have a hyphen. More importantly, the characterizations of a conservative history teacher and his class by a Leftist don't carry much weight at the best of times, let alone when the student attended his class 35 years ago. Just saying.
canofsand 1 month ago
Every so often I come back to this guy, especially when I teach The Crucible. I'm always blown away at what a transparently obvious opportunist and general douchebag he was. The most frightening thing about him is how strongly he would be welcomed by today's GOP and teabaggers. Some people simply do not learn.
gilliancameronst 2 months ago
@gilliancameronst it is you who "simply haven't learned." Today there is no excuse for your ignorance, as the evidence is all in, and it favors McCarthy.
melorkis 1 month ago 2
Joe McCarthy is much needed today.
stephenabm 2 months ago 2
I love the ideology of Communism & I love my country The United States of America
TheIntoxicatingEgo 2 months ago
Today Joe, all Dems are Communists. They believe in it, and push it on us. They are determined. We will resist to the death if need be.
SenorZorrozzz 3 months ago
The comments here read like a crusty old woman who keeps saying that she's "not racist, but..." then going on to say really racist things.
HaoWenXiang 3 months ago
@HaoWenXiang Communism is not a race so being anti-communist does NOT make one racist... "Not trying to sound stupid and plain so I'm gonna comment is a video for intellectuals and to make a smart argument..."
AlexNOSAM 3 months ago
@Bluedog309
BTW I was just curious, is it possible for a liberal to make an argument WITHOUT referencing Hitler/Nazi? You clearly couldnt. Shit there is even another guy on this page who replied to me that referenced it.
mikedd56 3 months ago
@Bluedog309
...is currently some huge threat. And why do you continue to talk like I said McCarthy was my hero. I've already said I think he was wrong, I just think the big bad McCarthy Era is massively over dramatized. Just like during the Bush Administration all we ever heard was Bush was taking away our liberties & I dont know how many times I heard some TV libtard warn us that Bush was taking us down a path identical to Nazi Germany. Oh yea I can hardly tell the 2 eras apart
mikedd56 3 months ago
@Bluedog309
...the set for a minute then came back, walked off their own show, all b/c Bill said terrorist & not Muslim extremist.
Jimmy Carter also visited Hugo Chavez & sings his praises
Tons of celebrities visited Fidel. After Steven Speilberg visited Fidel he said 'the 8 most important hours of my life'
'He's a genius' -Jack Nicholson
'Socialism works' -Chevy Chase
Robert Redford, Leo DiCaprio, Woody Harrelson, Oliver Stone, even Dan Rather the list goes on.
And when did I say Communism...
mikedd56 3 months ago
@Bluedog309
Since when does Bill Maher speak for all liberals. I've heard him defend Islam on his show but ur right I saw Religilous & I gotta give him credit b/c he didnt sell out & go easy on Muslims, I was surprised. But Maher's anti-religion stance is part of his celebrity profile.
'Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam’ -Rosie ODonnel
While on 'The View' Bill OReily said terrorist & Whoopi & Joy Behar were so offended they did this childish overly dramatic walk off...
mikedd56 3 months ago
A great American who stood up for America against the communist threat
dman1311974 3 months ago 2
@dman1311974
He was a fascistic demagogue, and you had failed epically for falling for his lies over 60 years after he is dead.
TheVoiceOfReason93 3 months ago
@Bluedog309
...BTW a witch hunt would imply I have no basis for my claim
-How often do liberals bad mouth every religion but defend islam, they even flip out if someone says terrorist
-or all the liberal celebrities who casually call Bush Hitler but love Fidel Castro
-Sean Penn who visited Hugo Chavez then went on Letterman to sing praises about the man. He even defended Hugo's decision to shut down a media network that criticized hugo
Even today liberals think communism is cool
mikedd56 3 months ago
@Bluedog309
Destroying innocent lives. His reign of terror lasted a few years before literally the whole country including his own party turned their back on him, history records him a disgrace. That sounds like a testament to how much we value freedom here. He was wrong. But he wasnt pulling names out of a hat b/c he was bored, spies were infiltrating our country. Look up the Venona Project. And thank you for proving my point of how often liberals say McCarthy to people who disagree with them..
mikedd56 3 months ago
What a great, great man. I tell you, we need this guy back... now more then ever, to help us rid the streets of the smelly unwashed pinko menace camped out in our parks today.
gpwasr10 3 months ago 2
wow hes like donald trumps today
kerpal3 3 months ago
These people have the right to be communists if they want, this is a free society.
zombiefan011 3 months ago
burn in hell McCarthy
Wahoofuck 3 months ago
What a great man he was a great American were would this country be without men like Senator McCathy,Abe Lincon,MLK,JFK,and RFK. There is only one word for Senator McCarthy and that is "PATRIOT"
dman1311974 3 months ago
Mcarthy was a republican
deckard43 3 months ago
we need men like ol' Joe in our gov. today
kenndogg51 3 months ago
The world was different back then and so were the definitions behind 'liberal' and 'conservative.' Both parties are now officially fucking nuts...
blaklodge 3 months ago
We've been conditioned to believe by mainstream media, talk shows, TV 'documentaries', Hollywood celebrities, and Woody Allen movies- that the 'witch Hunt' of the early 1950's was the work of a deranged alcoholic named Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was obsessed with a crazy notion that caused great harm and suffering to innocent Hollywood writers, etc. It now seems that Joseph McCarthy was far more accurate and more of a true patriot than we had been led to believe.
keithwarner 3 months ago
@keithwarner A true patriot?!!!....Only a Republican would even entertain such an insane statement! For years, Conservative extremists have tried to silence those who oppose their views by trying to label them as "UN-American". And as far as media goes, Rupert Murdoch now has more control over media than any other group on Earth. People have a right to hear opposing views and beliefs, in this country and all countries!
STARZ7707 3 months ago
@Thefting2323 How was he being dumb? And really? Was the racial slur even necessary? I don't think so. The only reason why people demonized McCarthy, was because he was getting to close to the truth! They even tried to demonize Mother Teresa, so what makes you think that McCarthy was wrong? When he was saying that a little over 1% of the Army was communists, he underestimated the ammount. Though, not most were communists, a lot of the men helped, and even worked with the communists.
lenachristoffersen 3 months ago
He has a very slight Irish accent...very cool.
rjamonanthony 3 months ago
McCarthy was right and communists are still wrong; they're just stuck in Red Square circa 1917, licking their collective chops at the prospect of seizing what isn't theirs. Nazis commited genocide according to ethnicity and Bolsheviks commited genocide based on economic class. The DNC subscribes to the latter, i.e. Obama vs Middle Class.
chickenwretch 4 months ago
Scum . Did he ever read a book ? Any book at all ? Scum .
vasp99 4 months ago
@ForsakenEagle McCarthy did have it right, I wished I realized it before ... I was brainwashed but now I see..... I have to do more research for the sake of my own mind..... and soul....
go2mikerenzi 4 months ago
Had 9/11 happened when Joe was around,he'd have goaded Eisenhower into padlocking every mosque in the USA.
ImDavidGurney 4 months ago
@ImDavidGurney If the tailgunner had been around for 9/11 the Bushes would be on death row.
keithwarner 3 months ago
My dad left me his Korean war picture album after he passed away. One grainy black and white photo shows a large number of dead Chinese soldiers with the caption- commie assault force meets American artillery. McCarthy wasn't the only American that hated communists with a passion.
Zack1591 4 months ago
I hate this man because of him for years and even now people are afraid of something
That they shouldn't be afraid of. He was a
Moron with almost no evidence to prove his
Statements and the little he did have was not
True
Eternalgamers1 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Fox News?
fonkymaster 5 months ago
McCarthy exposes himself. McCarthism wasn't about attacking Communists, it was about attacking Democrats.
patrickthesaint 5 months ago
To me Sen. Joe McCarthy might of been one of the first Neoconservatives and a believer in the "National Security State". To go after Communists Americans.
FRSFreeStatePlus 5 months ago
Sen. McCarthy would feel right at home with the current red bunch, in his own party.
coolmamac 5 months ago
Absolutely true!!!! Great man. Will be the light of the future.
theapollomoonlanding 5 months ago
Mcarthy was definitely un-american for all he did but ya know as bad as his reputation is guess what all those people he attacked ACTUALLY WERE COMMUNISTS & communism was a much bigger deal back then. He was doing what he thought was right to protect his country. However this is america & it doesnt matter how extreme we cant penalize people for their beliefs.
But still its ridiculous how the liberal media, or liberals in general, are always defending enemies of this country. WTF is up with that
mikedd56 5 months ago 2
@mikedd56 That's a load of crap, many of them were NOT Communists. And NO, Communism was not a "big deal", the idea of destroying peoples' lives because of what they thought goes directly in the face of everything this nation stands for. He was not "protecting his country" he was protecting a party, a viewpoint, and killing freedom along the way.
There is no "liberal media", and socialists or Marxists are NOT "enemies of this country". The media NEVER defends them, even when they should.
PrisonerNumber9653 4 months ago
@mikedd56 Enemies are for small minds.
gringochucha 4 months ago
@mikedd56
The Nazi's were also doing what they though was right for their country. That's a pathetic excuse. Don't do what you think is 'right for your country'. Do what is right for humanity, that of others and yourself. Research before you do what you think is 'right for your country'.
In the Netherlands, neofascists like Geert Wilders, who want to ban books and cartoons, are gaining foothold because of idiots who think they are doing 'what's right for the country'.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 3 months ago
@mikedd56
I'll give you a hint. Censorship isn't good for anyone, except for governments that require silent and obedient consent from their people.
I love how you spin this to put blame on liberals. Sad...
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 3 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH
Heres what I love. Liberals like you only seem to hear what you want & just disregard shit. I clearly said he was doing what HE thought was right. Then I made it perfectly clear that doesnt justify his actions b/c we are free to think what we want. But he wasnt just going after hollywood types who thought communism was cool. Spies were infiltrating our country i.e. Venona Project
BTW try being original & not mention nazis/hitler like every other goddamn liberal that ever lived
mikedd56 3 months ago
@mikedd56
Fuck the country. Fuck the government.
Do what is right for yourself and others! Not what's right for the authoritarian slave masters! You are not an obedient drone, you are not a machine that can be programmed by your government as they see fit. You are a human! Stand up for human rights and freedom.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 3 months ago
@mikedd56 McCarty WAS an enemy of this country.
frankmartinisadouche 3 months ago
What a scumbag. Out of all of the people he went on the witchunt about..ruined there lives, got them deported, there were NO arrests. It was a simple political ploy by him and that scumbag Nixon. Take Richard Nixon and Rush Limbaugh- morph them and you get this slimebag.
dannyd1572 5 months ago
Joe Mccarthy=Awesome American
dman1311974 5 months ago 2
@dman1311974 = home-schooled moron
Verto9999 5 months ago
@dman1311974 I cannot believe you are writing this with the hindsight we now have of what a scumbag McCarthy was.
blastemy 5 months ago
@dman1311974 McCarthy= ignorant moron
Eternalgamers1 4 months ago
I like you cuz ur Republican but the only thing i dont like is that you call everyone a communist and send them to jail
logerbad19 6 months ago
You come across as an exquisitely classy individual. And I marvel at your magnificent use of the English language. I'll bet you're the Shining Star of your family, the one everybody wants to emulate.
sealman546 6 months ago
Hmmmm, I still hate him, almost as much as I hate Olly North... I personally think that everyone should be allowed to overthrow the US government, it's a constitutional right!!!! :P Just kidding, I just value individual rights over fear tactics, and still to this day I fear that communism is not the greatest threat to the US, idiocy is. So please spay and neuter your idiots.
krouwtheknockingcrow 6 months ago
Disloyal Americans --- you mean the women, right?
oakdaddy 6 months ago 6
Enmity is one of the works of the flesh
handymandan100 7 months ago
Comment removed
erentheca 7 months ago
Demagogy.....
rob18767 7 months ago
@letom82 Hitler isn't even a bad guy. A German victory in ww2 would have prevented Stalin/Mao from killing tens of millions under the banner of communism. Why do you whine about Hitler? What is your beef with Hitler? Is it the holocaust? Is that it? Well following that "atrocity" argument, Hitler is still more just than the allies of Communism which would be Roosevelt's communist infested government. Pointing out "Nazi!" or "Hitler!" is just you whining, nothing concrete added at all.
EuroAmericanReich 7 months ago
@EuroAmericanReich Yes that is are arguement. I am missing 52 relatives I will never see plus their heirs because of the Holocaust. Roosevelt had no Communist in his goverment. Roosevelt had anti semties in his cabinit which is why the USA didn't do anything when Germany invaded Czechoslovakia.
LeighMet 6 months ago
@LeighMet Sorry but you're completely wrong or lying. Roosevelt had spies Dean Acheson, and Alger Hiss convicted SOVIET spies as his advisers, don't forget harry dexter white, george c marshall, solomon adler, and I could go on and on of convicted spies for FDR's government.
"There is no threat here in communism, some of my best friends are communists" FDR.
Franklin Roosevelt guaranteed to Stalin at Yalta he could keep his conquered territory. Why are you lying about this, especially noproof
EuroAmericanReich 6 months ago
@EuroAmericanReich George Marshall author of the Marshall Plan. Former Sectary of State and Defense you think he was a communist. And you think I am wropng or lying. FDr didn't know how bad Stalin was when he made that deal.
LeighMet 6 months ago
@LeighMet Of course he was a communist, George Marshall told Chiang Kai Shek he would lose all US aid if he didn't accept Mao's communist bandits in his government. "FDR didn't know how bad Stalin was when he made that deal" Yes he did, all US Presidents refused to recognize the barbaric soviet government, but FDR in his first year of office recognized the USSR and started sending them aid. The league of nations cabled FDR and asked him to stop the chinese civil conflict "originated in Moscow"
EuroAmericanReich 6 months ago
@EuroAmericanReich where do you get your information from. THe General who was in charge of all of Europe not falling into the hands of the Communist was a Communist. are you for real
LeighMet 6 months ago
@LeighMet If you think what I say is inaccurate then search up what I say for yourself. Also, George Marshall was in Asia mostly. Eisenhower gave General Patton's fuel to the British General Montgomery, because Patton wanted to take Germany before the Soviets could get there, this resulted in the German's evacuating the Falaise Pocket, and regrouping to fight again in the ardennes. Eisenhower even told the USSR we would not interfere when they put down 1953 anti communist riots.
EuroAmericanReich 6 months ago
@EuroAmericanReich McCarthur was in Asia Marshal was in Europe after the war. You know THE MARSHAL PLAN.
LeighMet 6 months ago
@LeighMet Why are you talking about after the war when I am talking about during the war? Come on now buddy.
George Marshal gave Chiang Kai Shek the ultimatum to accept communism or lose all US Aid. Chinese High Command ordered the all out attack on Mao to drive them to the 1000 mile march to Russia in order to negate this order from America. In response, FDR, Harry White, Morgenthau, Solomon Adler, Fixed the price of gold/silver illegally (Later legalized) crushing Chiang's economy.
EuroAmericanReich 6 months ago
Republicans like to pretend that they are the party of Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan. But the reality is--especially in the past few dacaded--they have proven themselves to be the party of Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon. Such a shame. How the mighty are fallen.
TheStrong32 7 months ago
@TheStrong32 Not even Richard Nixon he had his issues but wasn't a nut. He actually tried to pass a health care bill that created an individual mandate - like the mandate all of the Republicans now are bitching about.
xexixk 7 months ago
@letom82 Fox News didn't exist until 4 decades after WWII had ended .
MrLoganDunleavy 7 months ago
I am amazed at the hypocrisy that my country has shown in its history. We, who preach of our 1st Amendment, and the rights it grants, were so quick in this period to condemn those that might not think that Americas form of Democracy was perfect in every way. I'm no fan of communism, but to attack those that are the way that McCarthy did should have been an act of treason. If you truly believe in the 1st Amendment, you have to defend the rights of even those you disagree with.
nordy2010 7 months ago
@nordy2010 What your not realizing is, communism doesn't look to have an equal hand in a democracy like the Republican and democratic party does. But it seeks to over-throw the government and replace it with there own ideology... Kinda of like political Islam today.
Plus the fact that they were on the KGB's payroll means there a spy from a foreign nation.
fargonbastedge 6 months ago
@fargonbastedge Even if that's true, I submit that he should've been required to have proof; the fact that a mere allegation was all it took to end up in front of his hit squad, then be slandared for the rest of your life, was beyond rediculous to me. As I recall, the VERY large majority of lives he ruined were never a part of the communist party in any way.
nordy2010 6 months ago
@nordy2010 They did have evendence they had hearings and everything... Your totally ignoring the fact that they were communist and Mccarthy was right...
fargonbastedge 6 months ago
@nordy2010 Your first sentence, to be charitable, is a non sequitur. Witnesses tended to be government employees about whom allegations had been made and who McCarthy was giving the chance to set the record straight. Whose life did he ruin (and please don't say some actor or screenwriter)?. Read the transcripts of the executive session hearings McCarthy held. Do you realize he held most of his hearings behind closed doors precisely to protect witnesses from being needlessly slandered?
sealman546 6 months ago
McCarthy defended a group of Nazis who massacred over 80 US troops in WWII. That says volumes about this man's character. Thankfully today, he is remembered as a complete fool by most normal americans. O'reilly, Beck and Hannity still regard him as a hero. Of course, they're Nazis.
MrJtr1888 7 months ago
@MrJtr1888 Can you tell me some important facts about McCarthyism? I know a lot by reading on the net, but it would not be a bad idea to get some information from people who are discussing it. I have an oral English exam tomorrow -.- Thanks in advance.
Robben911back 7 months ago
@MrJtr1888 Nazi's were right and just. You pretend Nazi's are war criminals, when FDR gave the criminal order for the US Navy to attack German/Italian ships on sight with no declaration of war. Where is your sense of equality and justice for all parties? Communists butcher many times more than the holocaust, and they are still in great power today continuing, all because of US/UK Anti-Nazi policy. History, and reality are not things you're interested in. Simple slogans/labels is your thing.
EuroAmericanReich 7 months ago
@EuroAmericanReich Interesting that a neo-Nazi is attracted to a video of McCarthy. Very telling.
TheStrong32 7 months ago
@TheStrong32 Yes I'm a Nazi, people already know this. Pointing it out doesn't substitute for lack of education or historical knowledge, and it doesn't substitute for a complete lack of moral judgement on world wars. All it does is show that you are too emotionally sensitive to think about these things. Hitler was fighting criminals who were advancing bolshevism which killed tens of millions. Interesting that an opponent of Hitler once again has nothing concrete to add.
EuroAmericanReich 7 months ago
There probably were Soviet spies in the government. But McCarthy didn't find any of them. He just made baseless accusations against people, who were pretty much harmless. He was a horrible person and the antithesis of what it means to be an American.
aquagrl63 7 months ago
@aquagrl63 Actually, declassified documents prove he DID find quite a few spies. A great example of the Left's disgusting pro-Communist bias is that if you talk to them about the Rosenbergs, you'll hear all kinds of sympathy... yet it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were traitors.
canofsand 1 month ago
Jews hate anti communist.
Truthpolice9698 7 months ago
@Truthpolice9698 See the problem with that is Jews are both Communist and Capitalist. (Im a Captialist one myself)
LeighMet 6 months ago 2
@LeighMet About 22% capitalist and 78% communist. My favorite is Rothbard and Friedman. Peter Schiff also qualifies.
Truthpolice9698 6 months ago
Commiecrat party! Frikin prophetic......
joejohnson043 8 months ago
Kill a commie for your mommy.
44Magnum6 8 months ago
McCarthy was right, but he had the name wrong. he was searching for something. A true Patriot, who tried to save America, i'm sad to say he failed. We are inching towards socialism every day. If you're a socialist/communist i gots no beef with ya. but this country isn't a communist/socialist country. go somewhere else.
He was a true hero.
erizzow 8 months ago
@erizzow
a) You're an idiot
and
b) You're an idiot
kingmafi6699 7 months ago
@kingmafi6699
great argument.
erizzow 7 months ago
@erizzow i actually agree with you, and i am a socialist, not a hippie, not a communist. The US would fail as a socialist nation completely. Too many lazy people who would leach off the system. In turn, it would collapse. I have accepted this about my country. But, i have also accepted that we will always be under control and monitored regardless of what party is in power. We either bow to the capitalist corporations or bow to the gov't. I will choose the ones I can at least vote out of power.
MrJtr1888 7 months ago
Republicans think they have all the guns. Lmao.
beesleeper 8 months ago
I have to ask this: What is so terrible about being a Communist? Even if all of these people were Communists, it didn't mean that they were passing secrets to the USSR or trying to undermine the country. Why aren't people allowed to hold different viewpoints?
aquagrl63 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 Oh, dear, this is getting to be painful. I am sure you are the loveliest of young ladies, the apple of every eye that lights upon your visage, but please think before you speak. Check out the books of people like Ronald Radosh, Alan Weinstein, and the team of John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr (None of them McCarthyites by any means). Their research has concluded that being a Communist at that time meant giving one's allegiance entirely to the Soviet Union.
sealman546 8 months ago
@sealman546 Well, alright then. But I don't know if I can ever view McCarthy as a hero.
aquagrl63 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 What is so terrible about being a Communist is that communism is the twin sister of fascism. Pls. read books by Anne Applebaum, Robert Conquest or Evegenia Ginzburg to see my point.
meseniusful 8 months ago
@aquagrl63, you're right. I make the same point with people all the time. What's so terrible about being a Nazi? Aren't people allowed to hold different viewpoints?
EternalAnachronism 7 months ago
@EternalAnachronism Sorry, but there is a huge difference between Communism and Nazism.
aquagrl63 7 months ago
@aquagrl63, funny, I knew that would be your response. But the point obviously went right over your head. So I'll be explicit: You asked if people were allowed to hold different viewpoints, implying that, somehow, freedom of thought and speech is enough to forestall condemnation (which, mind you, is also the exercise of free speech). Well, Nazism is a viewpoint, too. However, you now imply that the critical thing is the nature of that viewpoint, whether it's good or bad. Bingo.
EternalAnachronism 7 months ago
@aquagrl6, it's not just a matter of "Oh, well, he has an opinion and has a right to it." It matters what that opinion is, because there is NO MORAL RIGHT to an immoral opinion (a legal right is a different matter). So we have to analyze, logically, the opinion in question. And communism is an evil, destructive ideology. As for the difference between Nazism and communism, the Nazis murdered 11 million people during the 20th century. The communists murdered 100 million. Learn your history.
EternalAnachronism 7 months ago
@aquagrl63, if you have sympathy for communism -- an ideology whose adherents brutally killed millions in concentration camps and elsewhere -- there is something seriously wrong with your sense of morality. It is not a "viewpoint" held by good people. You are obviously not someone to be trusted.
EternalAnachronism 7 months ago
@EternalAnachronism Easy there, Goebbels.
MrJtr1888 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@EternalAnachronism Easy there, Goebbels.
MrJtr1888 7 months ago
republicans dont love america. republicans love themselves
AstonShellz 8 months ago
@AstonShellz And Democrats love spending other peoples hard earned money.
LordMalice6d9 8 months ago
fuck mccarthy.
halflifeproductionz 9 months ago
Ah, Liberals never change. Attack him personally when they can't refute his charges.
sealman546 9 months ago 13
@sealman546 What do you mean "can't refute his charges"? Aren't people innocent until proven guilty? The burden of proof rested on him. Did he even find any Communists? And if he did, were they causing the country any harm? It isn't illegal to hold differing views. How did he make America any safer?
aquagrl63 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 Wow, what an astonishing ignorance of history. Read Blacklisted By History:Evans uses original source material to dispel the left lies about McCarthy. By the way, McCarthy was never interested in exposing individual communists. As chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations(whose job it was to investigate the government) he was focused on exposing the system whereby individuals with questionable loyalty records could make their way into sensitive government positions.
sealman546 8 months ago
@sealman546 McCarthy wasn't focusing on anything. He just wanted to get re-elected so he picked a hot button issue and ran with it. You haven't answered my question. Did McCarthy make America safer? What did he contribute to this country other than a climate of fear? I really want to know your answer.
aquagrl63 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 I'm afraid you are woefully ignorant on this subject. Regarding McCarthy's contributions, first of all he lit a fire under a lax Democrat administration in 1950-52: numerous documented cases of security and loyalty risks were ignored by Truman in the period 1945-50 and were only dealt with after Mccarthy's initial charges. We're talking about (for the most part) State department employees who failed the Truman loyalty standards and were not dismissed. (continued in next post)
sealman546 8 months ago
@aquagrl63 Second, his committee undertook a number of important investigations: The condition of the State Department loyalty files; investigation of the Office of the High Commissioner of Germany; removal of Communist authors from USIA overseas libraries; investigation of Communists in the Government Printing Office; investigation of the location of a Voice of America transmitter whose signal would not reach the Soviet Union. (Continued with next post)
sealman546 8 months ago