Christian Persecution in Malaysia - CBN.com

[mohol93]

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth is distinct from error!” (Quran, 2:256)

“Exhort them to believe; your task is only to exhort. You cannot compel them to believe.” (Quran, 88:21-22)

“Those who believe then disbelieve, again believe and again disbelieve, then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor guide them to the Way.” (Quran, 4:137) - If Muslim apostates r to be killed, how on earth can they believe in Islam again like from the Quran??

[ritchloui]

Islamic Sharia, an unjust legal code of separation and inequity between men and women, Muslim, non-Muslim and, of course, slave. The lesser person’s testimony is worthless. Enforced by threats, beatings, floggings, mutilation, maiming, death by stoning, beheading and any manner of means. Unsurprisingly, ALL Muslim women are obliged to cover themselves from head to toe, to hide the many injuries, clipped ears, broken bodies and smashed faces. Muslim women are the most oppressed people on earth.

[faiziskandar786]

LOOK THIS CHRISTIAN,Who worshipped the idol??Look EXODUS 20:4/5

youtube com watch? v=lshX_qVGmQs

[uAzil14]

it is not about islam and christian..but IT IS UMNO! UMNO AND UMNO!

[faiziskandar786]

Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]."Quran Ali Imran:64

Come brother and sister..I have my own bible..u practise wrong way.Read the Quran and compare with Bible.Dont follow something without knowledge.

Jesus is a muslim.

[84rany]

@faiziskandar786 Does Jesus said He is Muslims?Can u prove to me?Then why is Quran said Jesus was given Injil by Allah..why muslims does not practices what has written in Injil?why they worship Muhammad?why Muhammad can married more than 4?does he has double standard?muhammad has given special privillages,because He was prophet?how many people have been killed by muhammad?

[faiziskandar786]

@84rany First of all,christian must understand about the meaning of ISLAM.I know we are malaysian and even 'ALLAH' word can be an issue here.But we must know the truth,ISLAM mean SUBMISSION in ONE GOD.That all.So when I discussed with my Lebanese Christian he said to me Jesus/Moses is a Muslim.

Lets we chat my brother..I have my own Bible and we can discuss with the fact from bible and Quran..But with respect each other..

[168nas]

Thank you Jesus, open the muslim people eyes to see the holy bible truth, and the truth had set some of them free. I believe those other muslims want to get out from their religion too but no guts to do it.

[faiziskandar786]

@168nas Sudikah tuan berdiskusi tntg Islam-Kristian dgn saya??Holly Bibble=Holy Torah+Holy Gospel+Holy letter?

Kamu berpegang pada Gospel? @ berpegang pada surat-surat Paulus yg bercanggah dgn Gospel Mark,Matthiew dll?? Dimanakah Gospel of Jesus??

[yayer28]

"[b]ut I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,..." - Matthews 5:45

Prayer is the greatest weapon in our arsenal as a Christian :)

[pinangjawa]

In Malaysia, Muslims can convert to other religion legally.. it was never mentioned that Muslims can't convert. Normally Muslim converts who wish to revert, they might find it's easier to do so than the born Muslims. However, Malay Muslims are the most difficult to convert as the constitution stipulated that Malay must be Muslims. I'm being indifferent here; neither support or reject any notion. I think most Malaysians are like me.. only some radical and liberal Muslims fight over this.

[prophetabe]

This is the real Islam...

Watch this video: "The Inconvenient Truth About Islam From an Ex-Muslim Woman"

[8246371950]

1peter 3:10-12 Whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech. He must turn from evil and do good. FOR THE EYES OF THE LORD YESHUA ARE ON THE RIGHTEOUS AND HIS EARS ARE ATTENTIVE TO THEIR PRAYERS, but the face of the Lord Yeshua us against those who do evil.

[blucollardan]

Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."

[passarodoartico]

looking for City Harvest Church ,,,, on youtube...its is in Singapoute...there'ss so much malayysians there

[basilf191]

Yet should a Christian or Jew just allow ourselves to die. Islam wants nothing more than to KILL all Christians and Jews, if this was so why did god just do it, he is god right. Its because its a lie. A Satanic created religion for idiots and fools.

So many people are understanding god would not want us to kill each other this is a evil and a creation of the devil, its satanism at its best. The Quran preaches killing is that really what god or Jesus ever preached, 'LOVE' is all he preached.

[GrandmasterTigerfist]

Muslims arent only in war against christians..

They regard all non muslims as hostiles

[stealthkiller2107]

This is true. Muslims kill innocent Jews in Israel.

[Dicopsy]

Muslim don't have the right to speak about God.

Muslims are pagan. They turn around a stone at their "mecca". Their "prophet" mahomet was a pedophile who married with his cousine.

Muslims are the servitors of the devil.

Muslims insult God when they try to speak about Him.

Muslims are pagan, pedophile, murderer, rapist, drug dealers and they play with fire.

Muslims work for the devil.

The army of Jesus Christ our Lord will destroy once for all the disgusting islamic religion.

[762459]

@Dicopsy well said, it's time to start a new crusade, worldwide we have been infested by muslims and this is a massive outbreak and it should be stopped

[eanmars]

To Christians & Muslims..

Know your own religion..

Understand what is your religion..

Have faith in your own religion..

Realise what does your religion want..

Apply what your religion taught you..

And DON'T CURSE others..

I'm a Christian..my religion taught me to LOVE the enemies, PRAY for them & FORGIVE them..

MAY LORD HAVE MERCY TO US ALL..

[faiziskandar786]

If u want to know Muhammad..u must know him from anyone whose live in his time...not just read from other source after 1000++ he passaway...

[faiziskandar786]

Its not true....where u get this source??? U need to read the quran...

[basilf191]

I have read it myself in the Quran it also says the world is flat. There was many Qurans before the final Quran was compiled. Look at the Bible made up of 66 books that were SELECTED in the same way the Quran was selected/compiled. Our faith is just that our faith. You can't force people to beiieve. As a Christian I know the truth, if I want to leave my faith I can, in Islam its punishible by death doesn't seam fair to me. Read Galatians 1:8 This is Islam.

[faiziskandar786]

what u said??

[faiziskandar786]

Im not said ur bibble totally corrupted...what I wan to tell u is ur bibble not a real word,it only a translation with a lot of author..As a muslim,we accept a real Torah,Injil(bibble0 and quran...bcause its came from same God=Allah..

[Davediamant]

to all those Muslim here who putting quotes from the quran....stop it....fuck i hate see this fuckin gibberish and hate and lies...well i put one also

PROOF 10

AND ALL OF THE ASSHOLE WHO SHALL WRITE BULLSHIT ON YOUTUBE SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH IN THE NAME OF ALLAH.

ALLAH WILL CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE OF COURSE...

[faiziskandar786]

HOPE ANYBODY HERE WHOSE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ISLAM IN MUSLIM AND CHRIST VIEW,PLZ BUY THE BOOK 'BUKTI SAINTIFIK KERASULAN MUHAMMAD - DR DANIEL' 16000 NATIONAL'S BEST SELLER in POPULAR etc..this book include comment from muslim and christian scholar also pastor/father view...

[faiziskandar786]

PROOF 6: Gospel St.John Chapt:16:7 'I tell you the truth, it is expidient for you tha I go away, For if I go not away,The Paracletos, will not come unto you, But if I depart,I will send him unto you' Gospel St John:Chapt 14,16 'And I will ask the Father and He shall give you another PARACLETOS' PARACLETOS came from old Yunani word Periclytos, also mean 'glorious and praised' same for the meaning of word 'Muhammad'

[bangkavan]

This is so funny...i can't believed you resorted to this passage to proof that muhammad was mentioned in the bible.Paracletos or periclytos are simplt means "the holy spirit" This is promised by Jesus to us when he ascended to heaven. Paracletos is the component of christianity believed on trinity concept. C'mon this is lame.. Go get a better one .

[faiziskandar786]

@Planet8888 PROOF 5: King James;Habakkuk:3 And the holy one from mount Paran.Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise" ~PARAN is Prophet ISmail/ISHMAEL (son of Hagar) live,its mean Mekkah.(GENESIS 17-18) Prophet Muhammad is from Prophet Ismail generation (from Kedar to Quraisy family) and make the Arab race. 'KEDAR' also wrote in ISaiah 6-7.. ~Prophet Isa(Christ) is from Prophet Ishak generation and make the Jew race.

[faiziskandar786]

@Planet8888

PROOF 4:

The Authorised Vers:Deuteromony:19

'Unto my word which He shall speak

in My Name I will require it of him'

~Any new chapter in Quran started with Bismillahirrahmanirrahim

=With the name of Allah,most merciful

[faiziskandar786]

@Planet8888 PROOF 3: The Authorised Vers;Isaiah:12 'And the book deliverd, to him that not learned, saying,read this,I pray thee; And he saith I am not learned' ~Prophet Muhammad is unliterate, when Angel Jibrail meet him at 1st time, Jibrail ask him to read, and prophet said I dont know how to read. (Father George Antony-10 year's Christian scholar convert to Islam because of this word)

[faiziskandar786]

@Planet8888 PROOF 2: Old Testmnt,The Authorised Vers. Haggai:7-10: 'and the HIMDAH off all nation will come .........and this place I will gave Shalom, say the Lord of hosts' ~its real word is 've yavu himdath kol haggoyim' ~word 'Himdah'in Arabic came from word HAMADA, it related to word AHMAD & MUHAMMAD ~SHALOM in Arabic is SALAMA,also same with ISLAM, mean PEACE.

[faiziskandar786]

PROOF 1:

The Authorised Vers

Song of Solomon:16:

'His mouth is most sweet,

yea,he is altogether lovely ('Mahamuddim' in Hebrew)

~Word 'Muhammad' mean glorious and praised

[faiziskandar786]

In New Testmnt,Himdah=PARACLETOS.

PARACLETOS came from old Yunani word Periclytos,

also mean 'glorious and praised'

same for the meaning of word 'Muhammad'

[sherilim915]

@faiziskandar786 I especially love how your god teach you to destroy others. well done Allah.

[faiziskandar786]

@sherilim915 Are U christian??U also worship the same God known as ALLAH..not believed it??Arab Christian also worship Allah..go and ask them..Al=The,ILLAH=God..what mean of ELOHIM in ur bibble??same mean ALLAH.So be carefull when talk about ALLAH with no knowledge..Im MUSLIM and I know arab lang..U christian,but U know hebreW??or U just follow what Ur priest said??Allah teach to destroy??Huh~~We can discus anything (better msg)..but PLEASE PROFESIONAL..peace=)

[sherilim915]

@faiziskandar786 oh god, I think i have mistaken that. Maybe I should say , well done Muhammad instead of Allah since everyone shared the same god/allah.

So, are you looking forward to your 72 virgin after you go to heaven?

Looks like that place is not for women after all. So sexist.

IF the priest is giving me the wrong message, I am not that dumb to follow whatever he said.

[faiziskandar786]

@sherilim915 So how u can belived with the porno edited Bibble...read the porno part to your child?The word from god??

[sherilim915]

@faiziskandar786 how porno also can't beat your 72 virgins

[sherilim915]

@faiziskandar786 "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets." Bukhari, Vol. 1, #427

This is what your prophet said and making the whole world in a mess due to your people bombing everywhere and created chaos.

[sherilim915]

@faiziskandar786 If you want others to believe, go ask and tell your people to stop being so violence, (maybe not you but most of you.)

Where is the moral value in your religion, can you tell me about that?

Love- shared within several wives

Peaceful - Try to convince others by bomb-ing or place hijacking

Patience- Beat their wive and trying to control them (worst case if they turned into christian)

Tolerance- Burns churches, bibles and maybe Christian themself

[faiziskandar786]

@sherilim915

Love? Allah doesnt said MUST MARRIED MORE THAN 1. Better than adulterate..

Peaceful?? Where the terrorist before US attackd Iraq and Afghan? WTC bombing??very amazing when US can detected 100g morphine at airport,but doesnt saw the large aeroplane at the sky..wow!

Patience? Beat with what brother??what the procedure?

tolerance? Church @ spanyol still there even in Caliphate dynasty...read about saladin history,he doesnt kill any christian when he won and take baitulmaqdis.

[sherilim915]

Wow ONE of the muslim didn't kill anyone else, how great that was!

please note that NON of the christian/buddist/jews trying to do suicide bombing in india, london, us, russia...and i don't think you want me to continue the list..

ALLAH is good, he is brilliant! but definitely not your prophet, not the muslims.

[sherilim915]

@faiziskandar786 Btw Faizis, if you are looking for a life purpose. I think you should do more research about other religion as well (not based on the rumors) rather than knowing so well about your own religion only. If you seriously gain enough knowledge about other religion and you still remain a muslim, then I have nothing to say. Good luck with your choice. I mean it.

[animaniacsify]

@faiziskandar786 Can I please ask you this question, issit true that Islam is a Peaceful religion? The name Islam means peace? If your answer is yes, then why is there jihad to the unbelievers? So if I dont accept Islam I will be murdered? There are 6 billion people in the world and around 2 billions are muslims? So if you have your way you will murdered 4 billion people for their unbelieve?

[9w2xyz]

@animaniacsify How come the muslims are the only ones in the world trying to convince everyone that their religion is essentially a religion of peace? I think essentially, it is flawed. Ask any muslim what he thinks of a 50 year old man who has sex with a 9 year old. And watch. Now you understand the flawed logic that exists.

You dont see the buddhists or the hari krishnas going around telling people that they are peaceful. It is EVIDENT.

[faiziskandar786]

@9w2xyz what 50yr sex with 9yr?how old your 3rd past grandmother when she married ur grandfther?

of course they was young than @that time..Prophet Muhammad married Aisyah 1400 yr ago,i didnt heard any comment even from the mecca disbeliever that what they doing was wrong.Nobody said it was illegal at that time.Prophet not ask for that married,but his friend Abu Bakr give his son,Aisyah for marry.So there no peadophiloac issue because Prophet pbuh not ask and im sure it was arabic culture 1400ago

[faiziskandar786]

@9w2xyz Prophet married when Aisyah was 6 and live together when she was 9..If u r paedophiliac,can u wait for 3 years?

[sherilim915]

@faiziskandar786 C'mon stop preaching here, no one will believe you because your people are not even showing any good role models. At least show us something.

Btw, I am not christian. But I will never become a muslim. thank you very much.

Good luck with your choice.

[faiziskandar786]

jika kamu s2dy cristian dan islam, pastinya kamu akan pilih islam kerana kamu akan nampak kepincangan kristian dan kebenaran Nabi Muhammad di dalam bible itu sendiri...

[bangkavan]

On the contrary,i found abundant flaws in islam and i never encountered any passage mentioning Muhammad in the Bible. You may have been informed incorrectly or you don't care to understand about other religions apart from your own

[faiziskandar786]

Hi friend..we can open minded talk about this 2 religion...

U can see any deebate Islam vs Christian-Ahmad Deedat..

@ better buy book. 'Bukti-bukti Sains dan sejarah kerasulan Muhammad-Dr Daniel Zainal Abidin' @ bookstore..(15000 copy National's best seller).In this book,writer show the proof from Bibble show Muhammad is a prophet,also Hindu and Buddhist book view about Muhammad...

[bangkavan]

shalom to you friend..for your info i;ve watched debate done by ahmad deedat many times. In my opinion he was just good in manipulating facts and the things that he called proofs actually required you to be acrobatic in your thinking. Don't just read book from pro islamic book,please try reading others like what i did. For your info a lot of what Ahmad Deedat said was not based on two sides judgement but rather a desperate one sided narrow view. Pls think openly

[faiziskandar786]

PROOF 1:

The Authorised Vers

Song of Solomon:16:

'His mouth is most sweet,

yea,he is altogether lovely ('Mahamuddim' in Hebrew)

~Word 'Muhammad' mean glorious and praised

[faiziskandar786]

PROOF 4:

The Authorised Vers:Deuteromony:19

'Unto my word which He shall speak

in My Name I will require it of him'

~Any new chapter in Quran started with Bismillahirrahmanirrahim

=With the name of Allah,most merciful

[innfidel]

@fai

i have booklets of Ahmed Deedat. I think he has a point about errors in the Bible. But I have also come accross so many errors and contradictions in the Qur'an.

[destroyerOFevils]

christians are liars

[genesispassion]

great keep condeming the government...make it big...make it sensational ..

[lieberat]

I seem to get loads of negative response.

CBN is filled with lies. If you don't do your research and find out more abt m'sia but just rely on this HUGE BS. We'll just have to wait till our the ONE GOD calls us. The truth will then be showed.

I tell you, kepala otak kau rang. Kecik kecik taknak mampus.

[bigfathairywookie]

lieberat,

Probably because you are either very ignorant or you are deliberately misleading people. In Malaysia, those born as Malays are automatically regarded as Muslims. Anyone living around or in Malaysia knows that it's extremely difficult for Malays in Malaysia to convert to another religion.

Just recently, the Malaysian government confiscated 15,000 Bibles because they contain the word "Allah". If CBN is lying, perhaps you could point to a church where Malays are worshipping freely.

[lieberat]

Have you been to Sabah or Sarawak ?

The Malays or Ibans there are also Christians. Malays born thourgh Muslim parents are considered automatically Muslims, yes. Malays born under Christian parents are considered Christians. These peranakans, with Portugese n British ancestors were from mix marriages from Malay, Muslims n the colonial Fathers. They're then called Eurasians.

My friend, if you wanna call me ignorant, go get your history straight.

[BJT75]

@lieberat dont be an idiot. you dumb ass, where do you school? in the cave? how can you even argue here like you know everything.first of all, the peranakan is BABA , when the chinese set foot here, they slept with your malay great great great grandmother, BABA, they eat, talk like a malay, but thank god dont they act like one, second, for portuguese and the british were here, they did the same to your triple great grand mother, and they are called eurasian. u are one stupid argumentive bastard.

[lieberat]

Malaysia follow Islamic Sharia Law where Muslims are not allowed to convert. True, but that's the Law. Just like chewing gum is against the Law in some countries ! ;)

[bigfathairywookie]

In view of the fact that I'm born and raised Singaporean, I know what Ibans, Eurasians, and Peranakans are, thank you very much. Legally, these ethnic groups are not Malays. They are quite distinct from Malays, historically having their own cultures and customs.

I suggest you read Article 160 of the Constitution of Malaysia. It defines a Malay as "a person who professes the religion of Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language, conforms to Malay custom."

[bigfathairywookie]

You've made an allegation that "CBN is filled with lies", which I've challenged. As stated by the video, Malay converts are persecuted & prosecuted by Malaysian state laws. The video raised the incident of Lina Joy, a well-known case, who failed to legally change her religion. Also, the video states there are Muslims wanting to turn Malaysia into an Islamic state.

To call these facts lies is quite astonishing. That's why I noted the fact that Malays are not free to convert to another religion.

[bigfathairywookie]

By the way, I have Malay friends, did my National Service with Malays, & worked with Malays from Malaysia & Singapore. I have been to their homes during Hari Raya, went to their weddings etc. I respect them & I like them.

Also, I have heard first-hand testimonies of Malay converts & their struggles. I know the struggles of the Malaysian churches. I know what I can & cannot do in Malaysia whenever I travel there. So to say that "CBN is filled with lies" seems a little out of touch with reality.

[kerebaktwas]

igtn

You know why? becos if you dun embrace Islam you can't go to heaven. The funny thing is that, the god of Islam wants u 2 force people 2 become muslim so tat everyone go 2 heaven, but the christian God wanted His followers to love the muslim people so tat they too can b ter...how? which one is correct?

[Drooblemeister]

No one is trying to judge Malaysia-We know that most Muslims living in Malaysia are lovers of peace and do not support the persecution of the church. But I have friends from Malaysia, one a Malay Muslim-convert to Christianity who had to leave the nation to escape being persecuted. We know it is not the citizens but the authorities that are taking these actions-freedom exists, but the Malay are the only ones who are forbidden to choose their religion, by law they are not allowed to leave Islam

[lutfiakmal]

i'm sad by this... this is so not true... plz people if you want to judge malaysia by this footage then you are wrong ..so wrong...

[Vilven4u]

is it trueeee Malaysia ...we live in peace ,,they demolishh a lot of hindu temple .... Don'y try to cover asss pls ask Hindraf in Malaysia for truth....

[puyop0p]

vilven, m not denying it, but its bout law, not just temple, even mosque got torn down.. theres a thing called 'illegal building', it should b approved (after passing all the legal term, and construction law, or i quote, building by law 1984) but most of them survive, mainly because their age of existance. wut u r saying is ignorant, vilven. ive seen this stuff happen w my own eyes, ppl r assuming n accusing w/o investigation.

[puyop0p]

since u r too good, xplain ur action against a group of buddist, that have live at ur land (that has given to u by ur granparents) for 20yrs illegaly, thou they r not illegal imigrant. and build their own temple, fer their own community, w/o ur consent or approval. now tell me how good will u b in ur judgement. elaborate.

[wanangah]

THIS NEWS want to COVER real story HAPPEN in MALAYSIA.......

Now in MALAYSIA the CHRISTIAN NEWSPAPERS want to replace word GOD in their bible with word ALLAH to confuse MUSLIM there!!!!!

word ALLAH replace GOD in BIBLE in MALAYSIA!!

That why we MALAY MUSLIM fight about it...

CHRISTIAN TRY TO convert Muslim in MALAYSIA with confusion........

Or they realize that ALLAH is the true GOD..

SAME GOD to Abraham, Moses and Jesus..

STOP LYING TO THE WORLD!!!!

[gntlmanoo7]

I'm a foreigner in Malaysia ... i dont believe tht ..i guess tht those are liers

[lieberat]

Go to Malaysia, and you will be able to see a CHURCH, A HINDU TEMPLE, A BUDDHIST TEMPLE , A MOSQUE all on the SAME STREET ! With high respect of the other cultures. Pls CBN , don't spit your crap.

[lieberat]

Kepala Bapak Engkau !

Was ist das fuer ein Unsinn ! Full of Bullshit man this crap Network.

CBN = Chee Bai Network.

[07yondaime]

huhuhu