Vladimir Putin will raise Russia back into a superpower again. He has single-handily fixed the damage that the traitors Gorbachev and Yeltsin inflicted upon the country.
@Rachen30 "Vladimir Putin will raise Russia back into a superpower again." - Do you really want that at any cost? Be careful what you wish for. Being a superpower usually comes at a brutal and human cost.
Strelnikov's character was also symbolic of Leon Trotsky. First, he's a hero of the revolution, who rises to power, and goes on a sweeping raid across Russia, then he becomes one of the undesirables and is soon brought before a firing squad, (of course, he never makes it)
it's lara's fault for treating him like a brother instead of a sexual partner.
while she's fucking komorowski (the real masculine figure) she's constantly deceiving her mother and pasha. sure she likes him, but she doesn't respect him, and perhaps it's that lack of being taken seriously that pushes him to become so autocratic and domineering.
in the book he kills himself eventually. he is a tragic character and a symbol of male psychology. komorowski admires him yet takes what's rightfully his
the tragedy of Strelnikov is that he is a boy, as komarovsky said. He still has the ideals from before the war, be he has turned bitter and expresses his disappointment, yet again like a boy, hurting others as to feel strong, and not weak for having his great ideals being crushed by the callous nature of war, which is the real world not the better world he wanted to create.
The Character of Yevgraf is actually far more sinister and twisted as Strelnikov.
This scene comes right before the Intermission in the film (back when they had them...such a Romantic thought)...I can't think of another film that cuts to its intermission as dramatically (except maybe HAL reading the astronauts' lips in "2001").
Strelnikov-in my opinion was a clever media propaganda character. Everyone knows that there was a commisar who had a private war train, but most are unsure of his name. It wasn't Stralnikov, it was Leon Trotsky' The insignificant, nasty little 'Stralnikov' is a far cry away from the real man on the train.
This was the movie that kicked me right in the balls and proved that old directors were making Perfect movies way before I was born. This exact film. Started it all.
ramberghini! Rather like Great Britain, New Labour, and Tony Blair. The UK now suffers under a repressive, control obsessed regime. Our leader is not a young man with a desire for change, but a worn out , spent man, with no power, no census, no credibilty, and a slave to his capitalist banksters. Thatcher Capitalist, or Stalin Communist? Satans spore. Banks blow. Capitalism sucks. Communism can eat my shorts. How about "freedom?" "Being nice to one another?" "Love the world?" Too radical.
Strelnikov is a rather sad figure. On one hand he is a very sympathetic young man with a strong desire for change, but on the other hand he is corrupted by power and becomes and fearsome and callous commander. This was a problem rather common among the Bolsheviks, since they had a great cause initially, but misused the power given to them and became tyrants themselves. Tragic in many senses.
One could just as well say the same thing about the Nazis - and be just as wrong.
The Bolsheviks started as bank robbers, train robbers, terrorists and assassins. They may have been fantastic bullshit artists, but it wasn't hard to predict what they'd do once they came to power. Nothing remotely decent about them.
@DrCruel Dr C. What a lot of non-sense!--Where did you learn this 'history'?--Read 'History of the Russian Revolution by the man who co-led it, Trotsky.
What part of Trostsky's role are you talking about? Should I read his 'In Defense of Terrorism" then?
Don't try to peddle the old line about this petty Left fascist to me. I have read up on this pathological mass murderer, and all the rest of his power mad Bolshevik brethren. That they won the Russian Civil War was the worst catastrophe the Slav people suffered since the Mongols invaded. Even the Nazis weren't quite as bad as them.
@Tsagia: The Tsar was an autocratic prick who refused to change with the times, and in being so obdurate, brought down his throne and plunged Russia into Stalinism (what went on in Russia from 1917-1991 wasn't really socialism, but authoritarianism with a veneer of socialism.)
Except that that their intentions were petty and ruthless from the start. Pasternak uses the character of the General (in the movie, played by Alec Guiness) to characterize the sort of people they were - artists of deceit, masters of cruelty and terror, and the most ruthless of a period collection of rogues and scoundrels. Stalin was destined to be their king, and they deserved him.
Vladimir Putin will raise Russia back into a superpower again. He has single-handily fixed the damage that the traitors Gorbachev and Yeltsin inflicted upon the country.
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@Rachen30 "Vladimir Putin will raise Russia back into a superpower again." - Do you really want that at any cost? Be careful what you wish for. Being a superpower usually comes at a brutal and human cost.
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zilbiol 3 months ago
Strelnikov's character was also symbolic of Leon Trotsky. First, he's a hero of the revolution, who rises to power, and goes on a sweeping raid across Russia, then he becomes one of the undesirables and is soon brought before a firing squad, (of course, he never makes it)
johnnyachernar 3 months ago
Isnt that supposed to be anlogous to Trotstky?
oldschoolgreentube 4 months ago
it's lara's fault for treating him like a brother instead of a sexual partner.
while she's fucking komorowski (the real masculine figure) she's constantly deceiving her mother and pasha. sure she likes him, but she doesn't respect him, and perhaps it's that lack of being taken seriously that pushes him to become so autocratic and domineering.
in the book he kills himself eventually. he is a tragic character and a symbol of male psychology. komorowski admires him yet takes what's rightfully his
JunoNH 5 months ago
Its funny how Pasha is this dweeb early in the film, and then after the war he's now some sort of bolshevik badass in a coat
Siluriuskaeso 7 months ago
the tragedy of Strelnikov is that he is a boy, as komarovsky said. He still has the ideals from before the war, be he has turned bitter and expresses his disappointment, yet again like a boy, hurting others as to feel strong, and not weak for having his great ideals being crushed by the callous nature of war, which is the real world not the better world he wanted to create.
The Character of Yevgraf is actually far more sinister and twisted as Strelnikov.
MeneerTiki 7 months ago
This scene comes right before the Intermission in the film (back when they had them...such a Romantic thought)...I can't think of another film that cuts to its intermission as dramatically (except maybe HAL reading the astronauts' lips in "2001").
Autostade67 11 months ago
MAN that armored train is traveling!!!
crowleysridgegirl 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you've seen Corto Maltese in Siberia and love armored-trains.
Tsagia 1 year ago
Strelnikov-in my opinion was a clever media propaganda character. Everyone knows that there was a commisar who had a private war train, but most are unsure of his name. It wasn't Stralnikov, it was Leon Trotsky' The insignificant, nasty little 'Stralnikov' is a far cry away from the real man on the train.
krissi66x 1 year ago
This was the movie that kicked me right in the balls and proved that old directors were making Perfect movies way before I was born. This exact film. Started it all.
droid740 2 years ago
ramberghini! Rather like Great Britain, New Labour, and Tony Blair. The UK now suffers under a repressive, control obsessed regime. Our leader is not a young man with a desire for change, but a worn out , spent man, with no power, no census, no credibilty, and a slave to his capitalist banksters. Thatcher Capitalist, or Stalin Communist? Satans spore. Banks blow. Capitalism sucks. Communism can eat my shorts. How about "freedom?" "Being nice to one another?" "Love the world?" Too radical.
YXV382 2 years ago
Strelnikov is a rather sad figure. On one hand he is a very sympathetic young man with a strong desire for change, but on the other hand he is corrupted by power and becomes and fearsome and callous commander. This was a problem rather common among the Bolsheviks, since they had a great cause initially, but misused the power given to them and became tyrants themselves. Tragic in many senses.
ramberghini 2 years ago 12
One could just as well say the same thing about the Nazis - and be just as wrong.
The Bolsheviks started as bank robbers, train robbers, terrorists and assassins. They may have been fantastic bullshit artists, but it wasn't hard to predict what they'd do once they came to power. Nothing remotely decent about them.
DrCruel 2 years ago
@DrCruel Dr C. What a lot of non-sense!--Where did you learn this 'history'?--Read 'History of the Russian Revolution by the man who co-led it, Trotsky.
krissi66x 1 year ago
What part of Trostsky's role are you talking about? Should I read his 'In Defense of Terrorism" then?
Don't try to peddle the old line about this petty Left fascist to me. I have read up on this pathological mass murderer, and all the rest of his power mad Bolshevik brethren. That they won the Russian Civil War was the worst catastrophe the Slav people suffered since the Mongols invaded. Even the Nazis weren't quite as bad as them.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel I say long live the Tsar.Communism was a scourge and plague to humanity.
Tsagia 1 year ago
@Tsagia You should definitely read up on a subject before you discuss it. Otherwise you might be made to look foolish.
daverobmessina 1 year ago
@daverobmessina Wtf has Corto Maltese have to do with reading up on a subject?
Tsagia 1 year ago
@daverobmessina Oh you mean the Tsar.No sir,I do believe communism IS the scourge of humanity or at least was.
Tsagia 1 year ago
@Tsagia: The Tsar was an autocratic prick who refused to change with the times, and in being so obdurate, brought down his throne and plunged Russia into Stalinism (what went on in Russia from 1917-1991 wasn't really socialism, but authoritarianism with a veneer of socialism.)
Neville6000 1 year ago
@Neville6000 Don't talk like that about the Tsar you bolshevik.
Tsagia 1 year ago
@Tsagia: I will talk about the Tsar any way I like, so F*** you, okay?
Neville6000 3 months ago
@Neville6000 Bolsheviks....dumb brutes!
Tsagia 3 months ago
Except that that their intentions were petty and ruthless from the start. Pasternak uses the character of the General (in the movie, played by Alec Guiness) to characterize the sort of people they were - artists of deceit, masters of cruelty and terror, and the most ruthless of a period collection of rogues and scoundrels. Stalin was destined to be their king, and they deserved him.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@ramberghini Please, save mankind from men like Strelnikov. In the name
of advancing mankind, they will kill the innocent. Their cause, their ideal,
they believe, gives them the right to 'break shell, to make omlettes'!
fntime 11 months ago
@fntime have you even read the book or have you just seen the movie?
MeesterCrumpet 10 months ago
Стрельников!
Cool2BCeltic 2 years ago
A powerful scene! The intermission and the music that pops up right after the end of this clip should have been included.
fancyasian 2 years ago
Strelnikov is a cool guy!
ataxharrah 3 years ago
In Italy should be impossible to realize a scene like this. No more big Steam Locomotives...
ediunicko 3 years ago
I collect youtube link of Strelnikov. I would like to have clip of Strelnikov in 1965 version of Dr Zivago. It would be so nice!
RitalSoviet 3 years ago
Yes... that's Strelnikov!
AllenbysEyes 4 years ago 8