50MPG? Mister., GM already has a Malibu Hybrid in the dealership down the road. It is available for $32,000 with some extra features. This Malibu I say is in a modest mental-math. 1.8-3.9litre per every 100KM depending demand on electricity. The variation of potential loss between the conservation and transfer of energy, continually after batteries run dry. Gains from lower idols, permit longer electrical distances.
The 150 MPG was in 2007. See a new video of the 2010 Volt on YouTube. The Volt runs entirely on electric power for 70 KM at highway speed and uses no gasoline. In the U.S. research shows average drivers travel only 70 KM every day. The Volt gasoline engine is on only when the battery is low after 40 miles, and with gasoline the Volt gets about 50 MPG. The Volts 42 liter gas tank may not be used at all by a city driver for a month. That is how GM made the 150 MPG estimate in 2007.
Lots of people want this tech- let's go people! I agree there are patents being bought up and the gas company's are like sh**T we can't have these things out! The electric car was invented by Tesla way back when OMG people........
Unlike a prius the Chevy Volt ONLY runs on battery power in the first 40 miles and will go 100mph the prius uses gas after 20mph so the Chevy is better and after 40miles driven the car still is electric but uses a gas motor to charge battery, again better than Prius, plus the Chevy just looks better.
Chevy will have difficulty making a mid-$30k pricetag fly (regardless of whether that price can actually only be had after significant breaks from the government), when they'll have competition from the likes of Mitsubishi's iMiev, perhaps even before the Volt is out the door. Cheaper, longer EV range, more room, more headspace & field of view. On the downside, Mitsubishi's reliability record isn't much better than Chevy's own, despite them being a Japanese company.
Watch the documentary 'Who killed the electric car'. The battery technology to give a car 300 mile range has been around for a decade at least. The only thing keeping us in the dark ages of internal combustion engines is ignorance and apathy. And that is created by lies and fear from the oil companies.
oil companies are preventing the battery technology to evolve! They buy up the patents on new technology and stack them on their shelves and still make money.
Just think how big was a first PC - as big an apartment but once it was utilized in industry you can carry it in your pockets. That is what oil companies are afraid off - that is the reason why electric car was killed as well.
Look at all the morons dropping $40,000+ plus on the Prius.
A vehicle that is nothing more than a conventional car with an oversized Alternator.
This is a COMPLETE ELECTRIC VEHICLE. This technology could easily be adopted to the Corvette, Cadillac, Cobalt, Malibu, etc. As trucks go, I would LOVE to see a Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra, Suburban, etc. with this type of drivetrain.
I'll bet this thing beats a Diesel in torque, hands down.
ASk your condo association to install a $100-$200 outlet like the one thats probably already next to the outdoor maintance building? If they refuse, you can petition it by signature or offer to pay for it yourself.
If you have to recharge the battery, how do you recharge it if you live in a condo and don't have a garage but have a parking space far from the condo or you have to park on the street?
If you have nothing near for recharging you can always recharge with the flex fuel (e-85 small gas engine that is built into the car. Thats why the car has a 600+mile range. there IS a small gas engine onboard for recharging the batteries.
Thats exactly how i feel about it. They should have concentrated LESS on the sharp racy body style and more on keeping it within the price range of the average Joe.
At this point in my life i could care less about something sporty looking. I want something economical and dependable with great gas mileage.
Its a concept car. If this sells well they will probably put the volt engine in other cars but by 2010 the price of gas will probably be back to reasonable so why would the consumer buy it. They should have released the car this year.
I guess thats why people are paying $38-$45k on other hybrids because they can afford it?
If they work out the deal with the battery manufacture to lease the battery that will drop the price $6-8k alone. Now throw in a very nice tax rebate from federal and state for another $3-$5k in savings , your looking at a $25-$30k car. Not too damn bad considering you would save $2k-$4k yr in gas to pay for the damn car itself in 8-10yrs. Not to mention the feeling of sticking it in oil companies eye. :)
It won't look like this when it is released people.... It looks awesome now, but by the time it gets to the showroom it will probably look like just another fuel efficient lawnmower... I want a 50+ mpg car, but I don't want it to look like a wind up toy
No it won't! Obviously you don't follow the chevyvoltforums for current news and info on this much anticipated car. They actually have the prototype photo (this car on youtube) and the production car photo that will be produced in limited numbers starting in 2010. They are almost twins! Most changes was to interior design not external.
GM's Board of Directors approved production funding for the Chevy Volt the week of June 4, 2008. Will this become the 21st century version of the EV-1 disaster? Only time will tell. Other companies such as Nissan, Mitsubishi (Imiev), Aptera, Tesla, AFS Trinity, Phoenix Motors, and Ford have all announced hybrid or all-electric cars by 2010.
Phoenix motors has not announced, they have have there electric car and TRUCK available for some time now. The pickup truck actually looks decent and is $42K with a 100+ mile range and a newer battery pack coming with a 240mile range later.
Their vehicles are based on the South Korean Ssangyong Actyon, an unusual looking vehicle, like a lot of Ssangyong's products, though that is improving. Interestingly Ssangyong themselves have a diesel hybrid in the works.
GM is making incredible progress with the Volt. In April 2008 the engineering teams are in overdrive. The revolutionary battery packs are in test vehicles and the Volt body design is nearly finalized. The four passenger Volt may look a little different from the concept vehicle, but will have many incredible new design features. 2010 arrival appears to be on track and possible.
So by this definition a pure electric car get unlimited mpg...? what bs marketing..
By applying this logic you can give it whatever mpg you want it to have. Give it 5000mpg by driving 99% of the distance using only electricity and the final 1% using conventional fuel.
The AFS conversions are said to get 150 MPG by combining an ultra capacitor with a lithium battery pack and a gas (petrol) engine. The battery needs to be recharged by being plugged in, the capacitor extends driving range in electric only mode. In mass production the cost of the battery-capacitor power train should decrease. See the AFS site for more technical engineering information.
These things are only expensive to make as they are custom builds. As soon as you produce in bulk you'll drive the costs down. What a con to say "150mpg" if it's also powered by electricity from the mains- wouldn't that make electric cars infinite miles to the gallon 'cause they don't use any fuel?
There is no "con" the car runs 40miles on a full electric charge then the flex fuel small gas engine is turned on to recharge the batteries while driving to extend range another 600miles. the gas engine will use 4gallon's of e-85 (or regular) to keep the batteries charged (the gas engine does NOT power the drive)to obtain that extra 600mile range for a total of 640miles at full capacity. 600/4 = 150mpg Its simple.
People should really research this car befor the criticize it.
Since this video was recorded in 2007 the Volt engineering has changed. The rumor is the Volt will have a smaller flex fuel tank, still have the 40+ mile all electric range but have a total driving range of gas of about 400+ miles instead of 640 miles. Also rumors the Volt may be able to run on natural gas (dual fuel)as well as E85 and gasoline.
At the 2008 Detroit Auto show a modified 2007 Saturn Vue was shown by AFS Trinity Power. The modified Saturn is said to achieve 150 MPG and has a 40+ mile range on electric power alone. For more information see the AFS Trinity web page.
Detroit area newspapers report Volt production has been assigned to an assembly plant in southeast Michigan. New lithium batteries are being installed in test vehicles this fall (2007). Lithium was chosen for higher storage capacity and lower weight. Looks like a genuine effort so far.
You know how GM keeps saying that the battery is the problem. And all those vids that show the Volt driving around. And it makes the weirdest loudest noise. I think they can't even find good engineers to make the electric motor or put all the electric compoents together properly. Since so many people heard about the EV-1 and Cobasys NiMH battery. I bet all the good engineers wouldn't work for GM. So they ended up hiring retards to put the Volt together. Thats why it is taking so long.
This is only a concept car, they probably will not sell it to the public.
Tesla and Phoenix are probably the best choices for an electric in 2008 or 2009. GM will probably become dead last sooner or later. They should bring it out now and the people will love it.
Loss of revenue can make large companies, even the auto industries; change their "business model". Sure the government can help with legislation to force them to put out new technology, but the true power is in our hands. Stop buying or leasing new gasoline powered cars for a year. Tell your friends and family to wait a year. See my vids.
That may have been true 2-3 years ago, but GM vehicles are having a massive turn around. Better designs, better engineer, better quality. Now GM just needs to sort out the financial mess of its labor unions. Once it does (and it will), GM will be back at #1 and will remain there until SAIC takes over the planet :P
Im a ford die-hard, but if this were at the dealer today, i'd get a 2nd job and drive this proudly everywhere i could. I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I like my car for how it rides and how it lasts, and for it's fuel economy. I dont think ford is better than chevy or vice versa, i buy american cars PROUDLY. Toyota can lick my, well.... nevermind.
Wrong. The car runs on electric motors ONLY. The gasoline engine only powers up to recharge the batteries.
Also the car runs on battery power alone up to 40 miles. So if you average out your commute, you are most likely to get over 100mpg. You'd only have to fill up maybe once a month or once evry 6 weeks.
i dont think it will get 150 mpg. The engine is actually running harder to generate the the electric, THEN power the car, becuase not only are intenal combustion engine like only 40% tops efficent, the generater or motor isnt 100% efficent, so more energy is used to run off of gas to power the car
Wrong. The engine drive goes right into the generator. With regular gas cars the power has to travel through a complex drive system. With an electric drive, a lot of those parts are eliminated.
And if it isn't what they are planning already, they could put the motors directly on the wheels, making it even more efficient.
LovePontiac, correct. This is also far more efficient (in concept) as no gearbox and all that mechanical crap is needed. The engine can work at an optimal RPM to charge the batteries. Im guessing the 150mpg is based on a full charge, and perhaps a 100mile run. A 40 mile run is obviously 40miles/zero gallon. :)
This Volt looks way better than that POS they just came up with called the Volt. :\
BasherCoon 1 year ago
that car looks bad ass!!!
jay112273 1 year ago
Your minds are very limited in capacity.
50MPG? Mister., GM already has a Malibu Hybrid in the dealership down the road. It is available for $32,000 with some extra features. This Malibu I say is in a modest mental-math. 1.8-3.9litre per every 100KM depending demand on electricity. The variation of potential loss between the conservation and transfer of energy, continually after batteries run dry. Gains from lower idols, permit longer electrical distances.
Kimble275 2 years ago
hahhaaha 150 mpg
get a life
its not air powered ok
only air power engine can do that
KhalsaFouj 2 years ago
The 150 MPG was in 2007. See a new video of the 2010 Volt on YouTube. The Volt runs entirely on electric power for 70 KM at highway speed and uses no gasoline. In the U.S. research shows average drivers travel only 70 KM every day. The Volt gasoline engine is on only when the battery is low after 40 miles, and with gasoline the Volt gets about 50 MPG. The Volts 42 liter gas tank may not be used at all by a city driver for a month. That is how GM made the 150 MPG estimate in 2007.
2video 2 years ago
@2video which is a an advertising gimmick! ofcourse!
tigersoup 1 year ago
sorry, you're wrong, electric cars can do that and if you charged them from solar panels on your roof you could get 2000 mpg.
mark2073 2 years ago
Sorry now 230 MPG
youfja 2 years ago
Lots of people want this tech- let's go people! I agree there are patents being bought up and the gas company's are like sh**T we can't have these things out! The electric car was invented by Tesla way back when OMG people........
Imaketv20years 2 years ago 2
they have no money left remember the $17B bailout money?
they spend it already and now asking for more
anyone wants to send GM their bank account number so they can widthraw directly from your account ?
emforty2 2 years ago
I wonder if GM has the money left to put it into production????
andgate2000 2 years ago
Yes its going to be on sale for sure in 2010.
honestrunescaper 2 years ago
I agree with keyguy13, watch the documentary "who killed the electric car?" and you'll see why this car won't prosper yet.. Although it should.
straightsixstyle 3 years ago
Unlike a prius the Chevy Volt ONLY runs on battery power in the first 40 miles and will go 100mph the prius uses gas after 20mph so the Chevy is better and after 40miles driven the car still is electric but uses a gas motor to charge battery, again better than Prius, plus the Chevy just looks better.
striker3 3 years ago 2
this car is awsome i like the concept way more then the actuall volt. chevy nees to make there cars a little more "sexyer"
Rockz0n 3 years ago
Chevy will have difficulty making a mid-$30k pricetag fly (regardless of whether that price can actually only be had after significant breaks from the government), when they'll have competition from the likes of Mitsubishi's iMiev, perhaps even before the Volt is out the door. Cheaper, longer EV range, more room, more headspace & field of view. On the downside, Mitsubishi's reliability record isn't much better than Chevy's own, despite them being a Japanese company.
Asterra2 3 years ago
Watch the documentary 'Who killed the electric car'. The battery technology to give a car 300 mile range has been around for a decade at least. The only thing keeping us in the dark ages of internal combustion engines is ignorance and apathy. And that is created by lies and fear from the oil companies.
keyguy13 3 years ago 6
oil companies are preventing the battery technology to evolve! They buy up the patents on new technology and stack them on their shelves and still make money.
Just think how big was a first PC - as big an apartment but once it was utilized in industry you can carry it in your pockets. That is what oil companies are afraid off - that is the reason why electric car was killed as well.
sakh78 3 years ago
GM just needs to get the car on the show rooms and quit dragging their feet. They already did in the EV1.
kermitefrog64 3 years ago 7
that thing is ugly! put that technoligy in a normal lookin car
sirtokesalot47 3 years ago
Ok Gas mpg or ELECTRICITY? Electricity does not come in the gallon.. dur?
FilmPA 3 years ago
I don't think they'll have much trouble.
Look at all the morons dropping $40,000+ plus on the Prius.
A vehicle that is nothing more than a conventional car with an oversized Alternator.
This is a COMPLETE ELECTRIC VEHICLE. This technology could easily be adopted to the Corvette, Cadillac, Cobalt, Malibu, etc. As trucks go, I would LOVE to see a Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra, Suburban, etc. with this type of drivetrain.
I'll bet this thing beats a Diesel in torque, hands down.
hotFusionReaction 3 years ago
35k ! , Gm is a dead beat anyway, this thing needs to be at about 25K max. There is too many new cars already in the market at under 20K.
vid009a 3 years ago
Anyone that thinks an American car company can beat the Japanese in this market is living in a fantasy world.
burns1210 3 years ago
They have already been beat.
Unless i missed something and toyota, nissan or honda already has an electric car on the US market hiding someplace?
tiktak25 3 years ago
I live in a condo, my parking space is at the other end of the building from the condo. How would I recharge a plug in hybrid at night?
bearnurse1 3 years ago
ASk your condo association to install a $100-$200 outlet like the one thats probably already next to the outdoor maintance building? If they refuse, you can petition it by signature or offer to pay for it yourself.
tiktak25 3 years ago
If you have to recharge the battery, how do you recharge it if you live in a condo and don't have a garage but have a parking space far from the condo or you have to park on the street?
bearnurse1 3 years ago
If you have nothing near for recharging you can always recharge with the flex fuel (e-85 small gas engine that is built into the car. Thats why the car has a 600+mile range. there IS a small gas engine onboard for recharging the batteries.
tiktak25 3 years ago 2
i'll believe it when i drive it
creatingbliss 3 years ago
Then again.... If GM brings this thing to the showroom sporting anything higher than a $35,000 price tag....it will tank faster than the Edsel...
People who have 50k to drop on a car can afford to keep driving gas hogs, so the Volt would defeat it's own purpose.
PhatFarm60 3 years ago 3
Thats exactly how i feel about it. They should have concentrated LESS on the sharp racy body style and more on keeping it within the price range of the average Joe.
At this point in my life i could care less about something sporty looking. I want something economical and dependable with great gas mileage.
ZX2ManDave 3 years ago
Its a concept car. If this sells well they will probably put the volt engine in other cars but by 2010 the price of gas will probably be back to reasonable so why would the consumer buy it. They should have released the car this year.
timbosforporn 3 years ago
I guess thats why people are paying $38-$45k on other hybrids because they can afford it?
If they work out the deal with the battery manufacture to lease the battery that will drop the price $6-8k alone. Now throw in a very nice tax rebate from federal and state for another $3-$5k in savings , your looking at a $25-$30k car. Not too damn bad considering you would save $2k-$4k yr in gas to pay for the damn car itself in 8-10yrs. Not to mention the feeling of sticking it in oil companies eye. :)
tiktak25 3 years ago
It won't look like this when it is released people.... It looks awesome now, but by the time it gets to the showroom it will probably look like just another fuel efficient lawnmower... I want a 50+ mpg car, but I don't want it to look like a wind up toy
PhatFarm60 3 years ago
No it won't! Obviously you don't follow the chevyvoltforums for current news and info on this much anticipated car. They actually have the prototype photo (this car on youtube) and the production car photo that will be produced in limited numbers starting in 2010. They are almost twins! Most changes was to interior design not external.
tiktak25 3 years ago
i want right now , damn
IvanSorath 3 years ago
I love this vehicle.
besonix 3 years ago 2
GM's Board of Directors approved production funding for the Chevy Volt the week of June 4, 2008. Will this become the 21st century version of the EV-1 disaster? Only time will tell. Other companies such as Nissan, Mitsubishi (Imiev), Aptera, Tesla, AFS Trinity, Phoenix Motors, and Ford have all announced hybrid or all-electric cars by 2010.
2video 3 years ago
Phoenix motors has not announced, they have have there electric car and TRUCK available for some time now. The pickup truck actually looks decent and is $42K with a 100+ mile range and a newer battery pack coming with a 240mile range later.
tiktak25 3 years ago 2
Their vehicles are based on the South Korean Ssangyong Actyon, an unusual looking vehicle, like a lot of Ssangyong's products, though that is improving. Interestingly Ssangyong themselves have a diesel hybrid in the works.
EnigmaNZ1 3 years ago
Electric cars are 100 years old.
Thanks for nothing GM!
metaspore 3 years ago
It looks to me in the video that the show car didn't have the rear wheel motors they originally said the Volt would have.
tsport100 3 years ago
GM is making incredible progress with the Volt. In April 2008 the engineering teams are in overdrive. The revolutionary battery packs are in test vehicles and the Volt body design is nearly finalized. The four passenger Volt may look a little different from the concept vehicle, but will have many incredible new design features. 2010 arrival appears to be on track and possible.
2video 3 years ago
Yea but can we actually buy them this time the last time GM sold us a EV type car (I know it runs on gas too) we could only Lease it.
GANTZ100pts 3 years ago
they should have used this design for the new camaro with the new camaros rear on it the front on this car looks better than new camaroes.
unknownpersonofearth 3 years ago
So by this definition a pure electric car get unlimited mpg...? what bs marketing..
By applying this logic you can give it whatever mpg you want it to have. Give it 5000mpg by driving 99% of the distance using only electricity and the final 1% using conventional fuel.
asdffdas1234 3 years ago
The AFS conversions are said to get 150 MPG by combining an ultra capacitor with a lithium battery pack and a gas (petrol) engine. The battery needs to be recharged by being plugged in, the capacitor extends driving range in electric only mode. In mass production the cost of the battery-capacitor power train should decrease. See the AFS site for more technical engineering information.
2video 3 years ago
These things are only expensive to make as they are custom builds. As soon as you produce in bulk you'll drive the costs down. What a con to say "150mpg" if it's also powered by electricity from the mains- wouldn't that make electric cars infinite miles to the gallon 'cause they don't use any fuel?
pickledeggfan 3 years ago
There is no "con" the car runs 40miles on a full electric charge then the flex fuel small gas engine is turned on to recharge the batteries while driving to extend range another 600miles. the gas engine will use 4gallon's of e-85 (or regular) to keep the batteries charged (the gas engine does NOT power the drive)to obtain that extra 600mile range for a total of 640miles at full capacity. 600/4 = 150mpg Its simple.
People should really research this car befor the criticize it.
tiktak25 3 years ago 3
Since this video was recorded in 2007 the Volt engineering has changed. The rumor is the Volt will have a smaller flex fuel tank, still have the 40+ mile all electric range but have a total driving range of gas of about 400+ miles instead of 640 miles. Also rumors the Volt may be able to run on natural gas (dual fuel)as well as E85 and gasoline.
2video 3 years ago
At the 2008 Detroit Auto show a modified 2007 Saturn Vue was shown by AFS Trinity Power. The modified Saturn is said to achieve 150 MPG and has a 40+ mile range on electric power alone. For more information see the AFS Trinity web page.
2video 3 years ago
there will be a problem with mass production woulnt there? kinda expensive to make
n00bcam 4 years ago
the NY Daily News has reported that this car can get 640 mpg... never heard 150.
da relic
slikdarelic 4 years ago
Detroit area newspapers report Volt production has been assigned to an assembly plant in southeast Michigan. New lithium batteries are being installed in test vehicles this fall (2007). Lithium was chosen for higher storage capacity and lower weight. Looks like a genuine effort so far.
2video 4 years ago
You know how GM keeps saying that the battery is the problem. And all those vids that show the Volt driving around. And it makes the weirdest loudest noise. I think they can't even find good engineers to make the electric motor or put all the electric compoents together properly. Since so many people heard about the EV-1 and Cobasys NiMH battery. I bet all the good engineers wouldn't work for GM. So they ended up hiring retards to put the Volt together. Thats why it is taking so long.
tribluered 4 years ago
Lithium is the next target on GM's EV assassination list.
tribluered 4 years ago
There is no assasination is supply and demand.
This is too big a demand to ignore... especially if they want to compete with toyota.
Conspiracy theories are sooo annoying!
jabberwolf 4 years ago
Its not a conspiracy theory. If it was, it would be done in secret. Look at what they have done to EVs. That will tell you everything.
tribluered 4 years ago 2
This is only a concept car, they probably will not sell it to the public.
Tesla and Phoenix are probably the best choices for an electric in 2008 or 2009. GM will probably become dead last sooner or later. They should bring it out now and the people will love it.
tribluered 4 years ago
Loss of revenue can make large companies, even the auto industries; change their "business model". Sure the government can help with legislation to force them to put out new technology, but the true power is in our hands. Stop buying or leasing new gasoline powered cars for a year. Tell your friends and family to wait a year. See my vids.
h2fcell 4 years ago
That may have been true 2-3 years ago, but GM vehicles are having a massive turn around. Better designs, better engineer, better quality. Now GM just needs to sort out the financial mess of its labor unions. Once it does (and it will), GM will be back at #1 and will remain there until SAIC takes over the planet :P
AgmLauncher 4 years ago
Im a ford die-hard, but if this were at the dealer today, i'd get a 2nd job and drive this proudly everywhere i could. I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I like my car for how it rides and how it lasts, and for it's fuel economy. I dont think ford is better than chevy or vice versa, i buy american cars PROUDLY. Toyota can lick my, well.... nevermind.
breadrack 4 years ago
Chevy, build this car and I will buy one! Do It.
hugns 4 years ago
wow amazing car, go chevy, nothing is bette rthan GM all this other wannabees
nobber19 4 years ago
Wrong. The car runs on electric motors ONLY. The gasoline engine only powers up to recharge the batteries.
Also the car runs on battery power alone up to 40 miles. So if you average out your commute, you are most likely to get over 100mpg. You'd only have to fill up maybe once a month or once evry 6 weeks.
Buhma 4 years ago
i dont think it will get 150 mpg. The engine is actually running harder to generate the the electric, THEN power the car, becuase not only are intenal combustion engine like only 40% tops efficent, the generater or motor isnt 100% efficent, so more energy is used to run off of gas to power the car
87BII 4 years ago
Wrong. The engine drive goes right into the generator. With regular gas cars the power has to travel through a complex drive system. With an electric drive, a lot of those parts are eliminated.
And if it isn't what they are planning already, they could put the motors directly on the wheels, making it even more efficient.
LovePontiac 4 years ago
LovePontiac, correct. This is also far more efficient (in concept) as no gearbox and all that mechanical crap is needed. The engine can work at an optimal RPM to charge the batteries. Im guessing the 150mpg is based on a full charge, and perhaps a 100mile run. A 40 mile run is obviously 40miles/zero gallon. :)
waynebw 4 years ago