The Big Debate - Sheikh Assim Al-Hakeem Versus Dr.Bilal Philips

[MissLakiAli]

masha'Allaah. Both speakers did a great job and I love them both for the sake of Allaah.

[muslimawhitepeace]

ameen to all the khayr n appropriate duaas...

[delshad82]

Mashallah, there is so much in Islam that I have to learn, may Allah show me the right path and guide me in Islam. My dream is hat after I'm finished with my education (this year), travel to a Muslim country and Learn about my religion!

Inshallah this dream of my will come in true soon.

[delshad82]

Mashallah, there is so much in Islam that I have to learn, may Allah show me the right path and guide me in Islam. My dream is hat after I'm finished with my education (this year), travel to a Muslim country and Learn about my religion!

Inshallah this dream of my will come in true soon.

[delshad82]

Mashallah, there is so much in Islam that I have to learn, may Allah show me the right path and guide me in Islam. My dream is hat after I'm finished with my education (this year), travel to a Muslim country and Learn about my religion!

Inshallah this dream of my will come in true soon.

[TheSubmissiontoallah]

Asalamualaikum Warahmatullah

I think that we are missing the real intention for Green Lane Masjid in this debate and that is to show that we can disagree in a respectful and civil manner. Especially at a time when our young brothers are sisters have a Black and White mentality seeing things as MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY, I agree that the issue is a very crucial issue, but disagreeing on it does not mean we make it a point of Walaa and Baraa between ourselves.

[faizanjawed]

Subhanallah. Very good lecture

[TanzimAkhtar]

Sheikh Assim's arguments were excellent. For me it was one sided. I have to admit although I am a big fan of Dr. Bilal.

[VunidentifiedV]

Its not Bilal Philips its Usama al-thalabi

[NeXmAn007]

yano what i dont knw who to believe :S lool

Alhamdulilah great debate very professional :)

wallah i Love both of these Shiekhs for the sake of Allah

However, Aassim Al Hakeem does have a lot of evidence and i mean a lot :)

May Allah reward them

Ameen :)

[NeXmAn007]

yano what i dont knw who to believe :S lool

Alhamdulilah great debate very professional :)

wallah i Love both of these Shiekhs for the sake of Allah

May Allah reward them

Ameen :)

[DjKroniKz]

the black muslims brothers look like boxers lol especially dr bilal phillips he looks like mike tyson!

[AishahDaGreat]

I have so much respect for both of these scholars, masha Allah ta baraak Allah!

[izlamiztruth]

i would call this a dialogue not a debate , but mashala nice 

[slaveofallah8jannah]

MashAllah great presentation by Assim al-Hakeem & the moderator. I believe in the position of the Assim al-Hakeem because a number of specific Quranic verses and the authentic narrations from the messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihis salam. These r enough proof for a believer but the position is also strengthen by the ijmaa (consensus) of the sahaba as reported by one of the renowned Tabayee Abdullah bin Sahqeeq. Brothers & sisters do not leave salah due 2 laziness, this is an act of disbelief.

[dUanedwayne]

Masha allah. Sheikh Assim explains great with detailed citation in selected hadith and Dr. abu ameenah philips stated his point of view for some arguements and also in hadith. AND ALLAH AZA WAJAL KNOWS BEST AND THE MOST CORRECT. May Allah aza wajal guides the two of them and grant them deep understand in our religion(ISLAM). May ALLAh AZAWAJAWAL guides US ALL!!!! salam

[dUanedwayne]

Masha allah. Sheikh Assim explains great with detailed citation in selected hadith and Dr. abu ameenah philips stated his point of view for some arguements and also in hadith. AND ALLAH AZA WAJAL KNOWS BEST AND THE MOST CORRECT. May Allah aza wajal guides the two of them and grant them deep understand in our religion(ISLAM). May ALLAh AZAWAJAWAL guides US ALL!!!! salam

[mo389]

If someone abandons salah and only prayers rarely, I think it just makes him a really bad Muslim.

I like the spirit of this debate. Its not about who is right like the host said its for educational purpose to see two arguements.

I agree with AlihsaanP, The point is you should pray FIVE TIMES EVERYDAY.

Jazakallah Khair for this video

[onelovesistren]

Alhumdulilah, thank you Allah for sending sheiks like dr. phillips, who discloses all the information and definitions of words.

[muslimalways]

Ok my comment was answered by Dr Bilal Philips. I understand now alhamdu lilah.

[muslimalways]

If not paying zakat does not take one outside the fold of islam why did Abu Bakr r.a fight the people to pay zakat during his rule?

[OnyxArrow]

i agree with abu ameenah bilal philips.

[mohaz4lyf]

Asalam Aleikum... I like the MC ( moderator) . mashaallah he is so courageous n bright... Thnx fo uploading this video it helped alot in gaining on how the muslim scholars debate n the topic was a bigtym on fire. mashaallah. jazakumullah kheiran ikhwanii

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[TheGiggity47]

salam, how about those who can not even be called friday muslim or ramzan muslim? they may believe that it is an obligation at the same time are lazy and hardly pray, and believe that if one is nice and good towards others one may eventually enter Jennah

[communityzz]

mansha allaah



[communityzz]

ما شا الله

[Mr1Fox9]

2 - and i believe the point Shaykh al-Hakeem made was that the one who does not pray is a kaafir while he is not praying...but he can always return to Islam (and that is a general rule with regards to those who commit acts of kufr or apostasy). this as more of a difference in fiqh than aqeedah. aqeedah comes in when one completely abandons salah or says that salah is not obligatory. i doubt we would see a debate of this level on the issue of ruling by Allah's laws.

[Mr1Fox9]

Assalaam Alaykum wr wb:

1 - i often thought while watching this how this would apply to the implementation of the Shariah by the rulers i.e. if one in authority implements part of the shariah but not the whole of it - can it be said that he has abandoned the shariah? but implementation of shariah is a different subject matter and deals with tawhid and shirk. prayer is not a matter of tawhid or shirk (unless u are praying to someone other than Allah). abandoning the salah is an issue of kufr...

[skatetennis123]

and alhamdulilah, they both pray 5 times a day

[skatetennis123]

but that doesn't mean the majority of the ummah aren't disbelievers... :(

[skatetennis123]

who are hamaan and qaroon?

[WeBorn2DieAnyTime]

As Salaam aleykum waRahmatullahi waBarakaatuh

Masha Allah.

Jazaka Allah kheiran for sharing

waSalaam aleykum waRahmatullahi waBarakaatuh

[abdelbaasit1]

Oh how I just LOVED ♥ ♥ ♥ this beautiful, (albeit very short) scholarly debate btwn 2 of my fav. speakers & daa'ees. May Allah bless and preserve Sh. `Aasim Luqmaan Al-Hakeem, and likewise may Allah preserve & reward Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, حفظهمـــــــا الله

> even though I kind "fell for" [in a good sense] the convincing argument of Bilal Philips by the end of the video.. with الصلاة (Prayer in its Totality* in the hadith) vs. صَلَاة (a Prayer, or some, or many thousands of Prayers)

[abuhanifah83]

Subhanallah. Very good lecture so far. Scary but true. Allah forgive us all.

[lilblitz]

How can someone who believes in Allah not pray at all except out of ignorance and ignorance is forgiven, from what I have heard it is ''abandon'' abandon means to give up so even if they do not pray 5 times but prays Allah knows best but it does not seem to be abandoning. More than likely someone who does not keep his prayer will do a deed or utter a word that may make him leave islam because he is headless anyway we should guard our believe prayer is easy

[AlihsaanP]

Bothom line...Both sides presented strong arguments. Both would agree that salah is FARDH 5 times a day EVERYDAY (with exceptions. i.e. women on menses, post pregnancy bleeding, etc). Plz DO NOT take this video as if it was ok to pray sometimes and not other times! What we should learn from this is that we MUST PRAY! Whether not praying sometimes make u a kafir or not (for those moments), fact is that it could still take u to the fire even if u were 2 come out later! DO U WANT JAHANAM!? NO!

[islamsubmiter]

mashallah i love them both. beceuse they talk with full taqhwa inshallah

[islamsubmiter]

mashallah i love them both. beceuse they talk with full taqhwa inshallah

[dachaas1]

Maashaa'allaah, A very good debate between our shuyookh. I love both of them and I met both of them. I agree with the view of Bilal Philips

[zelem92]

they both have good points. the point dr bilal philips made was very good. the number of missed prayers. maybe one person doesnt pray at all except just on fridays or ramadan so that person missed many prayers but one person might pray every day but one day me missed asr does missing that one prayer now make him a kaffir? thats very hardcore if thats the case then i would say the majority of this ummah arent muslin then lol because i kno many muslims have missed prayers

[TheMuslim0]

Great Adâb =)

But I see Sheikh al-Assim al-Hakeem is correct.

[itcrowdfan92]

@TheMuslim0, if he is correct, then how many salahs does a healthy and abled person have to intentionally miss in order to get thrown out of the fold of Islam?

[lilblitz]

@TheMuslim0 His evidence was good, but dr bilaal said the same thing the difference is only on what constitutes abandonment on one hand I don't see how a serious believer can miss his prayer on purpose but then again having lived in the west it is very possible I follow the opinion given from ibn uthymeen this seems to be the soundest and most logical. Allah swt says "I am as my slave thinks of me" If we imagine Allah swt would nullify our islam for one prayer maybe he would be harsh with us

[lilblitz]

@TheMuslim0 His evidence was good, but dr bilaal said the same thing the difference is only on what constitutes abandonment on one hand I don't see how a serious believer can miss his prayer on purpose but then again having lived in the west it is very possible I follow the opinion given from ibn uthymeen this seems to be the soundest and most logical. Allah is The Most Merciful I cant imagine He swt would nullify ones islam for one prayer

[skkamalpuri]

mashaAllah a very good khowledgeable discussion with sufficient proofs.may Allah subhanahu wa t'aala give us the full understanding and give us toufeeq to act accordingly-aameen.

[freddyossfido]

good. :) mashallah ! Dr. Bilal is very learned Mashallah !

[AbuUbaidullaah]

MashaAllaah excellent debate, done with good akhlaaq, May Alllaah reward for their ijtihaad in coming out with their decision

[abulzan07]

@AbuUbaidullaah when was it? i didnt hear bout this conf

[AbuUbaidullaah]

@abulzan07 This happened quite a while back, in 2009. I heard it was really good