Load of muslims and your doorstep and Pope Urbane makes the wrong decision - I think not from current observations. Perhaps old Terry`s dog is a muslim?
funny how the history we learn in school in the west doesn't really go much into the whole Crusader as 'grilled-baby-eating and adult-stew-cooking cannible' issue :-/
seeing as human nature really hasn't changed much in the intervening years, I wonder what they will learn about us when and if our present time ever gets to be termed 'history', that is if we every get that far...
This is sad: Terry Jones is the Lord Ha Ha of modern days; those who used to enjoy Monty Python cannot but be disappointed; why is he taking side with evil and oppression and religious intolerance and assassins?? AND bad-mouthing the Crusaders calling them brigands and barbarians, etc...He ought to read history books before spewing forth rubbish and lies about the Western Civilization that allowed him the freedom of speech 2 make this documentary!!!
because its true...read a history books , crusaders were bunch of barbarians and murderers . middle east in those time was a centar of human knowledge . In Baghdad the philosophers were talking about the nature of atoms. And in the same time on the west , 99% of people couldn't even read or take a bath. Western civilization was born after the crusades and the knowledge they took from the Byzantines , Arabs and Jews. They killed everybody on their path.
@Panzer4183 That's an oddly revisionist view of "western civilisation," seeing as "western civilisation" has an unbroken history going back to pretty much the Ancient Greeks if not before. Every civilisation has dark periods, even the Byzantine Greeks, Arabs and Jews. The Dark Ages were dire, but the West is not defined by the Crusades.
Well there is no original western civilization before Renaissance. And i also agree the crusades didnt define the west civilization, but they left its imprint. I agree that every civilization has it dark ages , but considering the story of crusaders , they were bunch of ignoring barbarians. its remarkable what happen when they return in Europe after the last war in holy land, and brought a knowledge from east. The Europe flourished.
@Panzer4183 Where do u get this rubbish? They oppressed christians and jews everywhere they conquered lands; they forced anyone who was not muslim to pay taxes and exempted the muslim; at the same time they put pressure on who they called infidels to convert; those who didn' t were turned into serfs or expelled. Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book.
And same was done by Christians to the pagans in Rome and Athene , after emperor Theodosius . Every philosopher school was closed , Alexandrian library was burned by Christians , because they didnt need more books they had a Bible(400 yars after that, muslims burned it from the same reason.) And muslims in Spain and Sicily payed taxes for praying. There are no good guys in this story, because its just a story from history.
@gs032009 Muslims on the other hand are obligated by their faith to pay a tax called "zakat". Taxes would be a misnomer because this is actually considered as a form of "institutionalised charity" paid to an institution called Bait al-Mal which literally means "the house of welfare". They are either paid in food or in gold, which is later channeled to the poor and needy. It's like medieval social benefits, if you like.
@gs032009 The part with reading history books is a very good idea you should in fact consider yourself to do, because obviously you have no idea whatsoever what your are talking about.
@Bahutsauvage Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book. They had -in the 10th century when they invaded Europe- and have had till the 21st c. sharia law!! Are you dumm or playing the devil's advocate??
@gs032009 This is disgustingly self-serving. Terry Jones highlights a case of Crusaders eating children, and you accuse him of intolerance. You self serving snake.
@andrewkilroyable Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book. They had -in the 10th century when they invaded Europe- and have had till the 21st c. sharia law!! Are you dumm or playing the devil's advocate??
@andrewkilroyable You're the snake, you appear a western person and still bite the hand that feeds you! Why don't u move to the middle eats? Ahhhhh, right, when the moment of truth comes you want to stay here....snake!
@gs032009 He was teaching history and you were accusing him of intolerance. He certainly didn't approve of the action. You're really so stupid as to make more enemies now?
@gs032009 When the Muslims invaded a country or city, they did not kill their inhabitants, as the Christians did. Historical evidence records that the Muslim invaders continued to allow those people to practice their religions, continue free trade and did not seek to oppress, but to incorporate. The only evil I see evidence of, besides your ignorance, are the bloody and unjust atrocities committed by Christian and Catholic religions in the name of God.
@earthwitness18 Where do u get this rubbish? They oppressed christians and jews everywhere they conquered lands; they forced anyone who was not muslim to pay taxes and exempted the muslim; at the same time they put pressure on who they called infidels to convert; those who didn' t were turned into serfs or expelled.
@earthwitness18 Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book. They had -in the 10th century when they invaded Europe- and have had till the 21st c. sharia law!! Are you dumm or playing the devil's advocate??
@gs032009 Non-muslims or "zimmi"'s were subject to a tax called "jizyah" which makes them subject to the governing authority. This allows them to live freely and practice their faith under the protection of the Sultan's military muscle but exemptions were made for people who can't afford them.. A modern equivalent would be a residency visa.
If you've got a horde of franco-german zealots coming to burn down the city, you'd want to make sure you've paid your jizya lol.
@drtreg Isn't what so? Which local culture are you referring to...there are so many to choose from? "Culture's" are in a constant state of flux, some may suffocate slowly, other's more quickly, but they are always changing...for better, for worse? Who knows. However, they will continue to stand, fall, change, adapt or incorporate depending on the thoughts and actions of the people practicing them.
@TheRedHippie74 This is sad: Terry Jones is the Lord Ha Ha of modern days; those who used to enjoy Monty Python cannot but be disappointed; why is he taking side with evil and oppression and religious intolerance and assassins?? AND bad-mouthing the Crusaders calling them brigands and barbarians, etc...He ought to read history books before spewing forth rubbish and lies about the Western Civilization that allowed him the freedom of speech 2 make this documentary!!!
This ugly woman with dark yellow teeth bite you and instantly infect you by a plague disease
She has killed many of true christians...
MrFiringpin 5 days ago
Does any one know what the music is playing at 4:38?
SarahGreenist 2 weeks ago
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SarahGreenist 2 weeks ago
god muslims suck.
DLarson1083 2 weeks ago
Does anyone know where I can get a transcript of this video?
claire0783 3 weeks ago
Load of muslims and your doorstep and Pope Urbane makes the wrong decision - I think not from current observations. Perhaps old Terry`s dog is a muslim?
drtreg 1 month ago
does anybody know what is the song that starts at 4:30?
saveusmilkboy 1 month ago
Awesome. Wonderfully informative. Terry Jones is a fantastic history teacher!
rjgundy 1 month ago
The Crusades are an example of how religious zealots and greedy warlords can cause terrible destruction & death in the name of religion.
AlternityGM 2 months ago
i have a feeling gs032009 was the one dislike, plus that's big talk for someone who favorites the nanny
ZootownTomm 3 months ago
"This was the first crusade" LOL
GOOFEEN 3 months ago
funny how the history we learn in school in the west doesn't really go much into the whole Crusader as 'grilled-baby-eating and adult-stew-cooking cannible' issue :-/
seeing as human nature really hasn't changed much in the intervening years, I wonder what they will learn about us when and if our present time ever gets to be termed 'history', that is if we every get that far...
Morthund 3 months ago
What compelled the peasants to join the crusades? ...9/11 : lies & deceptions.
lonenut740 4 months ago
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lonenut740 4 months ago
This is sad: Terry Jones is the Lord Ha Ha of modern days; those who used to enjoy Monty Python cannot but be disappointed; why is he taking side with evil and oppression and religious intolerance and assassins?? AND bad-mouthing the Crusaders calling them brigands and barbarians, etc...He ought to read history books before spewing forth rubbish and lies about the Western Civilization that allowed him the freedom of speech 2 make this documentary!!!
gs032009 5 months ago
@gs032009
because its true...read a history books , crusaders were bunch of barbarians and murderers . middle east in those time was a centar of human knowledge . In Baghdad the philosophers were talking about the nature of atoms. And in the same time on the west , 99% of people couldn't even read or take a bath. Western civilization was born after the crusades and the knowledge they took from the Byzantines , Arabs and Jews. They killed everybody on their path.
Panzer4183 5 months ago
@Panzer4183 That's an oddly revisionist view of "western civilisation," seeing as "western civilisation" has an unbroken history going back to pretty much the Ancient Greeks if not before. Every civilisation has dark periods, even the Byzantine Greeks, Arabs and Jews. The Dark Ages were dire, but the West is not defined by the Crusades.
ContradictoryNature 2 months ago
@ContradictoryNature
Well there is no original western civilization before Renaissance. And i also agree the crusades didnt define the west civilization, but they left its imprint. I agree that every civilization has it dark ages , but considering the story of crusaders , they were bunch of ignoring barbarians. its remarkable what happen when they return in Europe after the last war in holy land, and brought a knowledge from east. The Europe flourished.
Panzer4183 1 month ago
@Panzer4183 Where do u get this rubbish? They oppressed christians and jews everywhere they conquered lands; they forced anyone who was not muslim to pay taxes and exempted the muslim; at the same time they put pressure on who they called infidels to convert; those who didn' t were turned into serfs or expelled. Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book.
gs032009 1 month ago
@gs032009
And same was done by Christians to the pagans in Rome and Athene , after emperor Theodosius . Every philosopher school was closed , Alexandrian library was burned by Christians , because they didnt need more books they had a Bible(400 yars after that, muslims burned it from the same reason.) And muslims in Spain and Sicily payed taxes for praying. There are no good guys in this story, because its just a story from history.
Panzer4183 1 month ago
@gs032009 Muslims on the other hand are obligated by their faith to pay a tax called "zakat". Taxes would be a misnomer because this is actually considered as a form of "institutionalised charity" paid to an institution called Bait al-Mal which literally means "the house of welfare". They are either paid in food or in gold, which is later channeled to the poor and needy. It's like medieval social benefits, if you like.
sh7de 1 week ago
@gs032009 The part with reading history books is a very good idea you should in fact consider yourself to do, because obviously you have no idea whatsoever what your are talking about.
Bahutsauvage 3 months ago
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@Bahutsauvage Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book. They had -in the 10th century when they invaded Europe- and have had till the 21st c. sharia law!! Are you dumm or playing the devil's advocate??
gs032009 1 month ago
@gs032009 This is disgustingly self-serving. Terry Jones highlights a case of Crusaders eating children, and you accuse him of intolerance. You self serving snake.
andrewkilroyable 2 months ago
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@andrewkilroyable Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book. They had -in the 10th century when they invaded Europe- and have had till the 21st c. sharia law!! Are you dumm or playing the devil's advocate??
gs032009 1 month ago
@andrewkilroyable You're the snake, you appear a western person and still bite the hand that feeds you! Why don't u move to the middle eats? Ahhhhh, right, when the moment of truth comes you want to stay here....snake!
gs032009 1 month ago
@gs032009 He was teaching history and you were accusing him of intolerance. He certainly didn't approve of the action. You're really so stupid as to make more enemies now?
andrewkilroyable 1 month ago
@gs032009 Attacking the crusades is not attacking Western civilisation in the same way that attacking Nazis is not attacking modern Germans.
ContradictoryNature 2 months ago
@gs032009 When the Muslims invaded a country or city, they did not kill their inhabitants, as the Christians did. Historical evidence records that the Muslim invaders continued to allow those people to practice their religions, continue free trade and did not seek to oppress, but to incorporate. The only evil I see evidence of, besides your ignorance, are the bloody and unjust atrocities committed by Christian and Catholic religions in the name of God.
earthwitness18 1 month ago
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@earthwitness18 Where do u get this rubbish? They oppressed christians and jews everywhere they conquered lands; they forced anyone who was not muslim to pay taxes and exempted the muslim; at the same time they put pressure on who they called infidels to convert; those who didn' t were turned into serfs or expelled.
gs032009 1 month ago
@earthwitness18 Stop being a fool and go and read a good history book. They had -in the 10th century when they invaded Europe- and have had till the 21st c. sharia law!! Are you dumm or playing the devil's advocate??
gs032009 1 month ago
@gs032009 Non-muslims or "zimmi"'s were subject to a tax called "jizyah" which makes them subject to the governing authority. This allows them to live freely and practice their faith under the protection of the Sultan's military muscle but exemptions were made for people who can't afford them.. A modern equivalent would be a residency visa.
If you've got a horde of franco-german zealots coming to burn down the city, you'd want to make sure you've paid your jizya lol.
sh7de 1 week ago
@earthwitness18
Just suffocate the local culture n`est -ce pas?
drtreg 1 month ago
@drtreg Isn't what so? Which local culture are you referring to...there are so many to choose from? "Culture's" are in a constant state of flux, some may suffocate slowly, other's more quickly, but they are always changing...for better, for worse? Who knows. However, they will continue to stand, fall, change, adapt or incorporate depending on the thoughts and actions of the people practicing them.
earthwitness18 1 month ago
Great! Thank you Docufans!
TheRedHippie74 6 months ago
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@TheRedHippie74 This is sad: Terry Jones is the Lord Ha Ha of modern days; those who used to enjoy Monty Python cannot but be disappointed; why is he taking side with evil and oppression and religious intolerance and assassins?? AND bad-mouthing the Crusaders calling them brigands and barbarians, etc...He ought to read history books before spewing forth rubbish and lies about the Western Civilization that allowed him the freedom of speech 2 make this documentary!!!
gs032009 5 months ago