@LongLiveTheKing1986 True, hate is not a crime. But we always explore motive. Even though both end up with a dead body, murder is charged differently than manslaughter. And a murder that is motivated by hate is charged differently than a murder that is motivated by money. Hate crimes are a form of terrorism.
@blazak I think you're right. I don't mean to stir up the pot here or turn people on here against me, but I think "hate crime" laws were invented to attack the criminal acts of white people. Maybe you can prove me wrong but it isn't often I hear of a Black person being executed or sentenced to death for a hate crime against a white person. Once again if I can be proven wrong I will definitely appreciate it. Seriously.
@LongLiveTheKing1986 I know it may look that way, but black people are charged with hate crimes all the time (Look at the data in the FBI Uniform Crime Report on black-on-white hate crimes). If fact, the Supreme Court decision on hate crimes (Mitchell vs. Wisconsin) was a case of a black on white hate crime. There just haven't been any high profile murders of whites by blacks based on race. At least not as horrible as Jasper. If there was, it would be prosecuted as a hate crime.
@blazak Thank you for the information, sir. I dont think we are yet to see a crime as horrible as Jasper. I was in 6th grade when it happened and it definitely got alot of coverage here in Philadelphia.
A few years ago I actually wrote Lawrence Brewer a letter and he actually seemed like a pretty nice guy. The guy was definitely a racist and was certainly not remorseful for his crime, but he seemed like a nice person based on his correspondence.
just found it the victim was james tillery, You must ask yourself why the double standard. money was also taken for mr tillery. So the police were quick to call it a non hate crime. If Mr boyd had 5 dollars taken from him are you sure that it would not of been a hate crime ? hypocricity is evil.
@DREXELALUMNI If the crime was motivated BY THE VICTIM'S RACE, it should be charged as a hate crime. There are plenty of black-on-white hate crimes charged each year (just look at the FBI UCR). But if was about money and not race, then it was not a hate crime. Hope that clears it up.
Did a similar murder happen to a whiteman in the very same town 4 years later ?
So sorry for his family. Why is america so quiet when it comes to murders against white people when blacks are the murderers. It is very interesting !! and sad !!
I asked myself the same question. And I am black. Look up Coral Eugene Watts. They don't want people in general to know about him. He murdered more than 100 white women in a three year period. I was heartbroken. Black people are seen as gang related murderers and thugs. Not serial killers. They don't want us to fear or even know that blacks are potential predators. I know this through first hand experience.
Fuck the black and white bullshit for once, focus all hate on muslim's who are against us all !!! this coming from a marilyn manson fan that's right you read it.
besides when black and white people mix you get nice woman out of that process.... keep it up
@mansonslaughterer Newsflash: Muslims are both black and white and yellow and red and brown and blue and green and pink. Religion should not exist (at all) and who to blame? thats right, NASA, because those nerds have not found life on other planets, but when they do, religion will stop to exist (abvious) and we all will live in peace ( i know, wishfull thinking) Mulats are beutyful, just look at RYANNAH ( i would totally boink her (again )))
Fuck the black and white bullshit for once, focus all hate on muslim's who are against us all !!! this coming from a marilyn manson fan that's right you read it.
besides when black and white people mix you nice woman out of that process.... keep it up
i recently heard someone speak on racial bias in the media.He said that so called "hate crimes" are not covered accurately and usually follow the politically-correct line of all white perpetrators being "racists","supremacists","neo-nazis",etc.and all non-white victims being innocent paragons of virtue.He said,for example,that if the non-white victim has a criminal record,this will be left out.Or if the white perpetrator had a non-racial motive,this too will be omitted from the story.
@IwontConform I've heard some bad information, too. Especially on the posts for this video. You've got some of that bad info. The criminal history of crime victims, white or not white, is not relevant to the story. No one deserves to be the victim of a hate crime.
@blazak my point is that our media DOES deliberately and intentionally deceive the public in presenting the news.This deception is used to condition viewers to see ALL whites as violent or potential "neo-nazis" who hate ALL non-whites.The criminal history or nature of the white perpetrator is always played up,the criminal history or nature of the non-white victim is always played down or concealed.The intended message is that ALL whites are "haters" and "racists",non-whites are only victims.
@IwontConform I seriously don't know what world you live in. I much more valid case could be made that the white-owned media paints whites to be blameless (and white criminals are just "crazy") and blacks as criminal savages. But you can live in your racist fantasy world. I can't stop you from having a persecution complex.
@blazak but there have been countless non-white on white crimes of equal or greater savagery than the jasper incident,but these crimes have received little or no attention by the mass media and the liberals are always silent on them,but man if the victim is a negro,we will see extended coverage and commentary from liberals for days or weeks.Black on white "hate" crime rates are also much higher,but we dont hear about that either.And then we have the black criminals who are martyrs and pardoned
Alot of people are not aware that jews control our mass media and control how events are slanted or covered.For example,white on black crimes are highlighted and covered for weeks,while black on white crimes are given coverage only in the city where they took place,but usually blacked out nationally.Another thing our media does is misrepresent the character of both perpetrator and victim.Whites are portrayed as "haters",their black victims are portrayed as choirboys,even when they are convicts
@IwontConform My Jewish friends think it's so funny that hatemongers like you think they control the media. LOL You know what controls the media? Money! Money knows no religion or ethnicity. Rupert Murdoch is a Catholic, not a Jew. But Hitler used that theory and neo-nazis like you will continue to use it because it prevents you from looking in the mirror.
@blazak i`m not a hatemonger,i`m a truthmonger.You can verify what i say about the jewish media monopoly for yourself,if you have the courage.For christ sake,even jews like neal gabler and joel stein admit that jews own the news and entertainment media.Now look,i`m not indifferent to a crime committed against a black man.But when i see deliberate manipulation and deception on the part of the media and deliberate omission of relevant facts in a criminal report,i get a little annoyed
Hate crimes are stupid. Simple murder. Simple Justice.Give them the needle or chair or what ever they dispatch trash with in Texas. And why are are "hate crimes" always white on minority. I can think of at least 20 recent crimes that were black on white that AND WERE "hate crime". One innocent life is no more important than another. Hate Crime legislation is racist. Most violent interracial crimes are hate crimes.One for instance in testimony was "stab that white bitch!"
@ConservativeLogic Conservative, you might want to check the facts before you type. According to the FBI data there are plenty of BLACK ON WHITE hate crimes. In fact the Supreme Court case that upholds the constitutionality of hate crime laws (Mitchell v. Wisconsin) was a black kid who beat up a white kid. If the crime is MOTIVATED BY RACIAL HATRED (including hatred of whites), it is a hate crime. Most of the crimes are NOT MURDERS, so the laws allow us to punish these forms of mayhem more.
Yes this is true but they are not prosecuted under "hate crime legislation" Just run of the mill murder statues. Murder is murder and there is more than enough laws to cover this without creating a special circumstance. Murder is generally a hate crime no matter what race. As you are familiar with crime stats and proportion you would know that more black on white crime takes place than the other way around. I just don't see the need for a special designation for murder.
@ConservativeLogic Do you think 9/11 was just 3000 murders? Do you think the murder of a child is just a murder? Hate crimes are designed to terrorized large groups of people (not just the victim). We as a society have decided to treat them as (yes) more heinous.
Classification of crime , in the case murder, is of course a must. A man walking into his bedroom and finding his wife of 20 years in bed with another man is not a premeditated murder that is obvious.This was, and the CJS separates crimes of less a heinous nature. already and those of extreme cruelty and premeditation accordingly. The point I'm getting at is this was a crime of premeditation and extreme cruelty and would have been, with or without, "hate" designation. It's political.
@blazak Anyway we are going to disagree politely and that's ok. I enjoy civil debate. I just don't think a crime needs to have a special designation above and beyond the laws already in place just because a person happens to be of a different race than the perp. And there is a big double standard when it comes to Trying black on white crimes as "hate crimes" I honestly don't know of a case tried under this designation.
@ConservativeLogic hate crimes are white on minority because thats what the controlled media want us to believe.They want to implant in the minds of the public that only whites commit these crimes,and only "supremists" or blind haters commit these crimes.Any motives that dont fit with this image but would explain or justify the crime,are omitted.Likewise,when a black committs a crime against a white,it is likely to receive little coverage in the media or they will conceal his true nature
samson8487 tries to cover his blatant homosexuality with bullshit tough talk, like blazak said. You can tell by how tame and reserved it is. Doesn't even sound serious. The guy is clearly pretending to be racist for attention, and that is sad.
whats funny is you see people leaving racist bullshit comments , then on their shitty boring channels they have music by black ppl "liked" and "faved" hahaha. Make your mind up you moronic clowns ! Those backward white guys are vile pieces of shit on the shoe of decent folk !
Man im from jasper and I swear I want one of you racist bitches to come to,east texas.. I'll decapitate ur fuckin body with my ak sittin up in the,closet. You stupid bitch ass crackers aint bout shit but nothin but typing shit in front of that computer screen. Bitch come,to jasper with that shit. We'll fuck you and the cops up bitch.. Let that be,known
wow this video has really brought out the homosexuals and bleeding heart nigger lovers. I don't think one honest to goodness nigger cares about your cause, and I believe the facts show that this dragging was completely justifiable...I get bored sometimes I'd love to go get me a monkey off the porch and chain him up to my truck... got no chain, got no truck. Gas is outrageous... lucky spooks.
@samson8487 lol dude you dont know how fucking stupid ignorant and retarded you fucking sound stfu and stop makeing a dam fool out of yourself you and all the other racist punks out there just remember every dog has his day and your day is comeing keep that kind of mentality up and your resting place will be in the darkness of hell
@samson8487 OK, when you go to samson8487's channel, he's has a video of Phil Collins singing Philip Baily's "Easy Lover"!!!! In academia, we call that "deep in the closet." LMAO!
@samson8487 i didnt know redknecks could get an internet signal all the way out there in the stix in their trailors.....u sir are 1 in a million hahahahaha ill pray for u.
@samson8487 naaa actually i get my fare share of pussy, the only pussy u get is ur sisters or your cousins....take ur incestrial ass on down the dirt road....remember ur president is black, dont u love that??....fuckin homo, phil collins east lover really lollllllllll??
@shawnprissy143 shawn prissy is calling me a homo... listen here miss priss, every time your boyfriend pulls his dick out of your mouth you say something stupid... even our nigger president would be impressed.
There is no race supremacy. We all derived from neutral humans and branched out and evolved due to our environmental locations, asians have thick eyelids because of sandstorms in their history, africans have dark-colored skin because of specialized pigments in the skin created to prevent skin cancer from exposure to radiation, etc etc.
Racists are just ignorant, un-educated idiots who need to stop spreading their stupidity to the younger generations.
@samson8487 There is no race supremacy. We all derived from neutral humans and branched out and evolved due to our environmental locations, asians have thick eyelids because of sandstorms in their history, africans have dark-colored skin because of specialized pigments in the skin created to prevent skin cancer from exposure to radiation, etc etc.
Racists are just ignorant, un-educated idiots who need to stop spreading their stupidity to the younger generations.
@samson8487 Man, this video has really brought out the genetic mutants. If anyone doubts that racism and homophobia are alive and well, I'll just point them to rocket scientists like samson8487. Sad.
@blazak glad u responded. wanna know what's wild & a total coincidence? When u got on the max today u chose a seat right next to me. Isn't that crazy? What a small world!
@blazak A white man, chased down by 3 black men, run over several times in a truck until he was dead. The chances of this not being a hate-crime, esp given the similarities to the more popular killing, are slim to none, IMO.
As Ive stated in previous comments, random, misguided violence is never justified but I think it's wrong for the media to devour one story, and virtually ignore another, although Ive got a pretty good idea why it went down that way, but that's another conversation entirely
@immortalpride Because the FBI ruled out hate crime charges after an investigation. Even the county sheriff said that it was just about monedy and drugs. Ken Tillery was at a crackhouse the night of his murder. And what was James Byrd Junior doing before his death? He was walking home from a family party. So, while any kind of murder should be condemned and is atrocious and none is justifiable, are these two murders comparable? I wouldn't think so.
wow i am Sean Berry cousin and i live in Jasper Texas and it was over drugs. it was not a hate crime in any way if that freak would stay out of peoples trash and away from drugs it would have never happened.
What happened to "James"(a human being created by God) was (to me) an unfortunate, horrific, evil, & cruel true example of how racism is still & probably (will always be) in this country and our communities. My heart goes out to everyone who lives in the United States and have been or is a victim of RACISM, & their families. Freedom should be removed from any context in reference to America until true justice is established (in my opinion), but I will rest assured knowing that "GOD IS JUST."
With the exception of your quotes 'a wonderful book' and 'three gentlemen' this is an okay video. I been reading about this case and came upon information about the Klan desecrating Byrd's grave site, soon after the three murderers were convicted. Talk about total hatred and disrespect. I don't know what else to say about it. The whole thing is too tragic and sad despite all of their personal problems. This is not the way to solve anything people.
Hey, Killscooter, how is that being racist? do people hate you cuz your white or black or brown? I will admit there are extreme people on both sides of the race issue, but no more than any other City or town in America. What happend to James Byrd was more than just skin deep so to say, Yes he was a No Count Crackhead who few people had any use for, No he did not deserve what happend to him, nor can it be justify'd in any way....
@ColtCobra2002 However, the Idea that this was a wholly racially motivated crime is Crap, this was as much a drug deal gone horribly bad as anything, plus there was already bad blood between King-Brewer and Byrd before hand.
Also, I remember those weeks well, and I have always found it Extremely telling that No One has ever mentioned the Triple murder commited just over a week before that where a Black man brutally killed 3 white people, a man woman and child if Im remembering right..go figure
i live here now and i can tell ALL of you this: this town is racist! i have long hair and tattoos, judged! everywhere i go! i don't go to church,judged! they just banned k2, cause one person got sick! what about the DOZENS OF ALCOHOL related deaths??? where's the ban on that? CORRUPT BIG TIME!
@twilight0sucks0balls - Why should Byrd's alleged drug use matter? He was a human who was brutally murdered because he was black. You are just trying to blame the victim. Rapists do the same thing.
they should've gotten,the same treatment,that james byrd,jr. gotten,even worser.THOSE BACKWOOD HILLBILLIES!!!DIRTY S.O.B'S! I HOPE,THEY GET RAPED,REALLY HARD,UP THE A..WITH A 12 IN. SICK D... WITH THE HIV VIRUS.YA DIGG!!!
I've lived there all my life... Jasper is a great place, the town as a whole was wrongfully demonized. There is no sort of ambient racial tension in the community whatsoever.
This fag doesn't know anything. I live in jasper sad to say, about 5 miles from where this happened. They were ALL smoking crack together James Byrd was a well known crackhead and thief here in Jasper. Jobless, collecting unemployment that was spent on drugs every month. Not to say what they did was in any way right no matter how worthless the guy but the news left out how Byrd really was. they deserve the death penalty it's law here in texas you kill someone you get killed back.
Well, PartyTX, you make 2 very sad errors. 1) Using the word "fag" as some sort of lame put down reveals your own bigotry. 2) Saying Byrd was "worthless" implies it's not really that ugly of a crime. Party on.
fuck, i wish people would just try and do good, this is dum, thoes white guys should get the same thing, butt buy a black man..... idn i feel black or white or whatever color, if u act like that u should get the same to you.....
I have noticed this to be the case as well. Moreover, white supremacists are actually more "turning away" from Christianity than they are "turning towards" Odinism. In the Texas prison system it is actually used as an organizational "response" to Islam. Likewise, there are a number of black supremacists who turn to Islam for the same reason, but not all.
Here and there someone will mention it, but it doesn't seem to be as big a deal when it's spoken of anymore.
And I don't know how other's who live around here feel about it, but to me it's just like any other case of racist behavior. It happens. I don't like being looked at as a racist person because of someone elses behavior. What happened here doesn't make Jasper's white community racist as a whole. Don't get me wrong there are some racist people here, but that's everywhere.
The Matthew Shepard/James Byrd Jr. Hate Crime Act was passed by Congress yesterday and the President has promised to sign it. Mr. Byrd's death will save others from such a horrible fate.
HATE is NOT a CRIME!!!
LongLiveTheKing1986 2 weeks ago
@LongLiveTheKing1986 True, hate is not a crime. But we always explore motive. Even though both end up with a dead body, murder is charged differently than manslaughter. And a murder that is motivated by hate is charged differently than a murder that is motivated by money. Hate crimes are a form of terrorism.
blazak 2 weeks ago
@blazak I think you're right. I don't mean to stir up the pot here or turn people on here against me, but I think "hate crime" laws were invented to attack the criminal acts of white people. Maybe you can prove me wrong but it isn't often I hear of a Black person being executed or sentenced to death for a hate crime against a white person. Once again if I can be proven wrong I will definitely appreciate it. Seriously.
LongLiveTheKing1986 2 weeks ago
@LongLiveTheKing1986 I know it may look that way, but black people are charged with hate crimes all the time (Look at the data in the FBI Uniform Crime Report on black-on-white hate crimes). If fact, the Supreme Court decision on hate crimes (Mitchell vs. Wisconsin) was a case of a black on white hate crime. There just haven't been any high profile murders of whites by blacks based on race. At least not as horrible as Jasper. If there was, it would be prosecuted as a hate crime.
blazak 2 weeks ago
@blazak Thank you for the information, sir. I dont think we are yet to see a crime as horrible as Jasper. I was in 6th grade when it happened and it definitely got alot of coverage here in Philadelphia.
A few years ago I actually wrote Lawrence Brewer a letter and he actually seemed like a pretty nice guy. The guy was definitely a racist and was certainly not remorseful for his crime, but he seemed like a nice person based on his correspondence.
LongLiveTheKing1986 2 weeks ago
what an unfortunate way to do, i'm glad the men convicted are in prison
StandAloneComplex019 2 weeks ago
I used to unfortunately live there and was so fortunate to leave this place as soon as I could..
LockedIllusionsPhoto 2 months ago
just found it the victim was james tillery, You must ask yourself why the double standard. money was also taken for mr tillery. So the police were quick to call it a non hate crime. If Mr boyd had 5 dollars taken from him are you sure that it would not of been a hate crime ? hypocricity is evil.
DREXELALUMNI 5 months ago
@DREXELALUMNI If the crime was motivated BY THE VICTIM'S RACE, it should be charged as a hate crime. There are plenty of black-on-white hate crimes charged each year (just look at the FBI UCR). But if was about money and not race, then it was not a hate crime. Hope that clears it up.
blazak 5 months ago
Did a similar murder happen to a whiteman in the very same town 4 years later ?
So sorry for his family. Why is america so quiet when it comes to murders against white people when blacks are the murderers. It is very interesting !! and sad !!
DREXELALUMNI 5 months ago
@DREXELALUMNI yes they picked the guy up around jasper but actually beat and dragged in a town about 20 min from there
jessica75949 4 months ago
@DREXELALUMNI
I asked myself the same question. And I am black. Look up Coral Eugene Watts. They don't want people in general to know about him. He murdered more than 100 white women in a three year period. I was heartbroken. Black people are seen as gang related murderers and thugs. Not serial killers. They don't want us to fear or even know that blacks are potential predators. I know this through first hand experience.
thalo2k7 4 months ago
FULL METAL JACKET, ALL FUCKING NIGGERS MUST FUCKING HANG. THANK YOU.
ruler1978 5 months ago
@ruler1978 I have my students look at the comments on this video so they can see inbred bigots still live.
blazak 5 months ago
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ruler1978 5 months ago
@ruler1978 Am I a "pussy" or a "dickhead"? You racists are often sexually confused.
blazak 5 months ago 2
@ruler1978 you are nothing but a racist punk and every dog has his day and your day is comeing burn in hell
bfer95 3 months ago
@ruler1978 You are a RACIST Moron!!!!
72kezz 5 months ago
Horrible way to die!! Hope they rott in hell!!!
gothmomof2 5 months ago
....women
mansonslaughterer 5 months ago
Fuck the black and white bullshit for once, focus all hate on muslim's who are against us all !!! this coming from a marilyn manson fan that's right you read it.
besides when black and white people mix you get nice woman out of that process.... keep it up
mansonslaughterer 5 months ago
@mansonslaughterer Newsflash: Muslims are both black and white and yellow and red and brown and blue and green and pink. Religion should not exist (at all) and who to blame? thats right, NASA, because those nerds have not found life on other planets, but when they do, religion will stop to exist (abvious) and we all will live in peace ( i know, wishfull thinking) Mulats are beutyful, just look at RYANNAH ( i would totally boink her (again )))
howarethingsindenver 5 months ago
Fuck the black and white bullshit for once, focus all hate on muslim's who are against us all !!! this coming from a marilyn manson fan that's right you read it.
besides when black and white people mix you nice woman out of that process.... keep it up
mansonslaughterer 5 months ago
i recently heard someone speak on racial bias in the media.He said that so called "hate crimes" are not covered accurately and usually follow the politically-correct line of all white perpetrators being "racists","supremacists","neo-nazis",etc.and all non-white victims being innocent paragons of virtue.He said,for example,that if the non-white victim has a criminal record,this will be left out.Or if the white perpetrator had a non-racial motive,this too will be omitted from the story.
IwontConform 6 months ago
@IwontConform I've heard some bad information, too. Especially on the posts for this video. You've got some of that bad info. The criminal history of crime victims, white or not white, is not relevant to the story. No one deserves to be the victim of a hate crime.
blazak 6 months ago
@blazak my point is that our media DOES deliberately and intentionally deceive the public in presenting the news.This deception is used to condition viewers to see ALL whites as violent or potential "neo-nazis" who hate ALL non-whites.The criminal history or nature of the white perpetrator is always played up,the criminal history or nature of the non-white victim is always played down or concealed.The intended message is that ALL whites are "haters" and "racists",non-whites are only victims.
IwontConform 6 months ago
@IwontConform I seriously don't know what world you live in. I much more valid case could be made that the white-owned media paints whites to be blameless (and white criminals are just "crazy") and blacks as criminal savages. But you can live in your racist fantasy world. I can't stop you from having a persecution complex.
blazak 6 months ago
@blazak but there have been countless non-white on white crimes of equal or greater savagery than the jasper incident,but these crimes have received little or no attention by the mass media and the liberals are always silent on them,but man if the victim is a negro,we will see extended coverage and commentary from liberals for days or weeks.Black on white "hate" crime rates are also much higher,but we dont hear about that either.And then we have the black criminals who are martyrs and pardoned
IwontConform 6 months ago
Alot of people are not aware that jews control our mass media and control how events are slanted or covered.For example,white on black crimes are highlighted and covered for weeks,while black on white crimes are given coverage only in the city where they took place,but usually blacked out nationally.Another thing our media does is misrepresent the character of both perpetrator and victim.Whites are portrayed as "haters",their black victims are portrayed as choirboys,even when they are convicts
IwontConform 6 months ago
@IwontConform My Jewish friends think it's so funny that hatemongers like you think they control the media. LOL You know what controls the media? Money! Money knows no religion or ethnicity. Rupert Murdoch is a Catholic, not a Jew. But Hitler used that theory and neo-nazis like you will continue to use it because it prevents you from looking in the mirror.
blazak 6 months ago
@blazak i`m not a hatemonger,i`m a truthmonger.You can verify what i say about the jewish media monopoly for yourself,if you have the courage.For christ sake,even jews like neal gabler and joel stein admit that jews own the news and entertainment media.Now look,i`m not indifferent to a crime committed against a black man.But when i see deliberate manipulation and deception on the part of the media and deliberate omission of relevant facts in a criminal report,i get a little annoyed
IwontConform 6 months ago
Lawrence Brewer also received the death penalty for the dragging death of James Byrd Jr. He will die by lethal injection next month.
thestrawberryfeilds2 6 months ago
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that nigger fucking deserved it and you know it.
fieryphoenix808 7 months ago
Hate crimes are stupid. Simple murder. Simple Justice.Give them the needle or chair or what ever they dispatch trash with in Texas. And why are are "hate crimes" always white on minority. I can think of at least 20 recent crimes that were black on white that AND WERE "hate crime". One innocent life is no more important than another. Hate Crime legislation is racist. Most violent interracial crimes are hate crimes.One for instance in testimony was "stab that white bitch!"
Mayhem is mayhem.
ConservativeLogic 8 months ago
@ConservativeLogic Conservative, you might want to check the facts before you type. According to the FBI data there are plenty of BLACK ON WHITE hate crimes. In fact the Supreme Court case that upholds the constitutionality of hate crime laws (Mitchell v. Wisconsin) was a black kid who beat up a white kid. If the crime is MOTIVATED BY RACIAL HATRED (including hatred of whites), it is a hate crime. Most of the crimes are NOT MURDERS, so the laws allow us to punish these forms of mayhem more.
blazak 8 months ago
@blazak
Yes this is true but they are not prosecuted under "hate crime legislation" Just run of the mill murder statues. Murder is murder and there is more than enough laws to cover this without creating a special circumstance. Murder is generally a hate crime no matter what race. As you are familiar with crime stats and proportion you would know that more black on white crime takes place than the other way around. I just don't see the need for a special designation for murder.
ConservativeLogic 8 months ago
Are you saying that without the "hate crime" designation this would have been any less heinous of a crime?
ConservativeLogic 8 months ago
@ConservativeLogic Do you think 9/11 was just 3000 murders? Do you think the murder of a child is just a murder? Hate crimes are designed to terrorized large groups of people (not just the victim). We as a society have decided to treat them as (yes) more heinous.
blazak 8 months ago
Classification of crime , in the case murder, is of course a must. A man walking into his bedroom and finding his wife of 20 years in bed with another man is not a premeditated murder that is obvious.This was, and the CJS separates crimes of less a heinous nature. already and those of extreme cruelty and premeditation accordingly. The point I'm getting at is this was a crime of premeditation and extreme cruelty and would have been, with or without, "hate" designation. It's political.
ConservativeLogic 8 months ago
@blazak Anyway we are going to disagree politely and that's ok. I enjoy civil debate. I just don't think a crime needs to have a special designation above and beyond the laws already in place just because a person happens to be of a different race than the perp. And there is a big double standard when it comes to Trying black on white crimes as "hate crimes" I honestly don't know of a case tried under this designation.
I could be wrong.
ConservativeLogic 8 months ago
@ConservativeLogic thats right bro White Power!!!
fieryphoenix808 7 months ago
@ConservativeLogic hate crimes are white on minority because thats what the controlled media want us to believe.They want to implant in the minds of the public that only whites commit these crimes,and only "supremists" or blind haters commit these crimes.Any motives that dont fit with this image but would explain or justify the crime,are omitted.Likewise,when a black committs a crime against a white,it is likely to receive little coverage in the media or they will conceal his true nature
IwontConform 6 months ago
samson8487 tries to cover his blatant homosexuality with bullshit tough talk, like blazak said. You can tell by how tame and reserved it is. Doesn't even sound serious. The guy is clearly pretending to be racist for attention, and that is sad.
mradam2 8 months ago
@mradam2 you sound like a nigger lover too... faggot
fieryphoenix808 7 months ago
whats funny is you see people leaving racist bullshit comments , then on their shitty boring channels they have music by black ppl "liked" and "faved" hahaha. Make your mind up you moronic clowns ! Those backward white guys are vile pieces of shit on the shoe of decent folk !
tabulaerasae82 8 months ago
Man im from jasper and I swear I want one of you racist bitches to come to,east texas.. I'll decapitate ur fuckin body with my ak sittin up in the,closet. You stupid bitch ass crackers aint bout shit but nothin but typing shit in front of that computer screen. Bitch come,to jasper with that shit. We'll fuck you and the cops up bitch.. Let that be,known
kuhhhhh5 9 months ago
wow this video has really brought out the homosexuals and bleeding heart nigger lovers. I don't think one honest to goodness nigger cares about your cause, and I believe the facts show that this dragging was completely justifiable...I get bored sometimes I'd love to go get me a monkey off the porch and chain him up to my truck... got no chain, got no truck. Gas is outrageous... lucky spooks.
samson8487 9 months ago
@samson8487 die bitch
WTF12715 7 months ago
@samson8487 lol dude you dont know how fucking stupid ignorant and retarded you fucking sound stfu and stop makeing a dam fool out of yourself you and all the other racist punks out there just remember every dog has his day and your day is comeing keep that kind of mentality up and your resting place will be in the darkness of hell
bfer95 3 months ago
I wish they would drag niggers daily... let em know who runs this mother fucker. Obama would be my bitch!
samson8487 9 months ago
@samson8487 OK, when you go to samson8487's channel, he's has a video of Phil Collins singing Philip Baily's "Easy Lover"!!!! In academia, we call that "deep in the closet." LMAO!
blazak 9 months ago 3
@blazak I think I'm falling in love with you...
samson8487 9 months ago
@samson8487 Haha "Easy Lover" so gay!
mradam2 8 months ago
@mradam2 easy lover rules, its just the nigger next to collins tryin to suck a white dick to get some credit, gaylord
fieryphoenix808 7 months ago
@samson8487 STFU i hope they hang people like you daily
WTF12715 7 months ago
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@samson8487
"I wish they would drag niggers daily... let em know who runs this mother fucker. Obama would be my bitch!"
Go ahead and be my guest because hell will possibly be eternal for bitches like you.
IcedCoffee81 6 months ago
@samson8487 i didnt know redknecks could get an internet signal all the way out there in the stix in their trailors.....u sir are 1 in a million hahahahaha ill pray for u.
shawnprissy143 9 months ago
@shawnprissy143 you my friend are a nigger loving homosexual...
samson8487 9 months ago
@samson8487 naaa actually i get my fare share of pussy, the only pussy u get is ur sisters or your cousins....take ur incestrial ass on down the dirt road....remember ur president is black, dont u love that??....fuckin homo, phil collins east lover really lollllllllll??
shawnprissy143 9 months ago
@shawnprissy143 shawn prissy is calling me a homo... listen here miss priss, every time your boyfriend pulls his dick out of your mouth you say something stupid... even our nigger president would be impressed.
samson8487 9 months ago
There is no race supremacy. We all derived from neutral humans and branched out and evolved due to our environmental locations, asians have thick eyelids because of sandstorms in their history, africans have dark-colored skin because of specialized pigments in the skin created to prevent skin cancer from exposure to radiation, etc etc.
Racists are just ignorant, un-educated idiots who need to stop spreading their stupidity to the younger generations.
HamiltonTran 9 months ago 2
@HamiltonTran whatever you fucking idiot. You know nothing about niggerdom, or the definition there of. You probably suck black cock...
samson8487 9 months ago
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@samson8487 There is no race supremacy. We all derived from neutral humans and branched out and evolved due to our environmental locations, asians have thick eyelids because of sandstorms in their history, africans have dark-colored skin because of specialized pigments in the skin created to prevent skin cancer from exposure to radiation, etc etc.
Racists are just ignorant, un-educated idiots who need to stop spreading their stupidity to the younger generations.
HamiltonTran 9 months ago
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@HamiltonTran whatever you fucking idiot. You know nothing about niggerdom, or the definition there of. You probably suck black cock...
samson8487 9 months ago
@samson8487 Man, this video has really brought out the genetic mutants. If anyone doubts that racism and homophobia are alive and well, I'll just point them to rocket scientists like samson8487. Sad.
blazak 10 months ago 3
@theadjundantreflex fyi, I am in my trailer already. That's a double-wide to u smart lick. Go make water in yer britches boy
FarmingFarmer 11 months ago
@FarmingFarmer you a nigger lover too farmer bob? You make white people look bad...
samson8487 9 months ago
@blazak glad u responded. wanna know what's wild & a total coincidence? When u got on the max today u chose a seat right next to me. Isn't that crazy? What a small world!
FarmingFarmer 11 months ago
@blazak bite me ya chuckleheaded cheskey czech
FarmingFarmer 11 months ago
@FarmingFarmer
Hey, go back to your trailer. What are you doing on the internet?
TheAdjundantReflex 11 months ago
@blazak go blow a frog ya dimwit polak
FarmingFarmer 11 months ago
@FarmingFarmer Well folks, you don't have to go far to find evidence that moronic racism is still a problem.
blazak 11 months ago
@samson8487 get off this planet
IocusRood 1 year ago
@IocusRood i would if these niggers would let me. NIGGER LOVER!!
samson8487 10 months ago
@samson8487
Your dumb ass fuck punk ass
maccmost619 1 year ago
@maccmost619 your fuckin nigger mother faggot
samson8487 9 months ago
@samson8487 Spoken like a true inbred hick from 1871. Does that include Chamillionaire?
blazak 1 year ago 3
And what of Ken Tillery, the white man who was murdered by 3 black men in Jasper on Jan 19, 2002? Any outcry for him? Just curious...
immortalpride 1 year ago
@immortalpride If he wasn't murdered because of his race then it wasn't a hate crime. Was Tillery dragged behind a truck until his head came off?
blazak 1 year ago
@blazak A white man, chased down by 3 black men, run over several times in a truck until he was dead. The chances of this not being a hate-crime, esp given the similarities to the more popular killing, are slim to none, IMO.
As Ive stated in previous comments, random, misguided violence is never justified but I think it's wrong for the media to devour one story, and virtually ignore another, although Ive got a pretty good idea why it went down that way, but that's another conversation entirely
immortalpride 1 year ago
@immortalpride Because the FBI ruled out hate crime charges after an investigation. Even the county sheriff said that it was just about monedy and drugs. Ken Tillery was at a crackhouse the night of his murder. And what was James Byrd Junior doing before his death? He was walking home from a family party. So, while any kind of murder should be condemned and is atrocious and none is justifiable, are these two murders comparable? I wouldn't think so.
merrygoround2008 1 year ago
wow i am Sean Berry cousin and i live in Jasper Texas and it was over drugs. it was not a hate crime in any way if that freak would stay out of peoples trash and away from drugs it would have never happened.
19bby90 1 year ago
@19bby90 Brewer and King both had made statements about killing a black man before the murder. I think Sean Berry got dragged into it.
blazak 1 year ago
What happened to "James"(a human being created by God) was (to me) an unfortunate, horrific, evil, & cruel true example of how racism is still & probably (will always be) in this country and our communities. My heart goes out to everyone who lives in the United States and have been or is a victim of RACISM, & their families. Freedom should be removed from any context in reference to America until true justice is established (in my opinion), but I will rest assured knowing that "GOD IS JUST."
amber2ism 1 year ago
With the exception of your quotes 'a wonderful book' and 'three gentlemen' this is an okay video. I been reading about this case and came upon information about the Klan desecrating Byrd's grave site, soon after the three murderers were convicted. Talk about total hatred and disrespect. I don't know what else to say about it. The whole thing is too tragic and sad despite all of their personal problems. This is not the way to solve anything people.
ImOfNope 1 year ago
Hey, Killscooter, how is that being racist? do people hate you cuz your white or black or brown? I will admit there are extreme people on both sides of the race issue, but no more than any other City or town in America. What happend to James Byrd was more than just skin deep so to say, Yes he was a No Count Crackhead who few people had any use for, No he did not deserve what happend to him, nor can it be justify'd in any way....
ColtCobra2002 1 year ago
@ColtCobra2002 However, the Idea that this was a wholly racially motivated crime is Crap, this was as much a drug deal gone horribly bad as anything, plus there was already bad blood between King-Brewer and Byrd before hand.
Also, I remember those weeks well, and I have always found it Extremely telling that No One has ever mentioned the Triple murder commited just over a week before that where a Black man brutally killed 3 white people, a man woman and child if Im remembering right..go figure
ColtCobra2002 1 year ago
i live here now and i can tell ALL of you this: this town is racist! i have long hair and tattoos, judged! everywhere i go! i don't go to church,judged! they just banned k2, cause one person got sick! what about the DOZENS OF ALCOHOL related deaths??? where's the ban on that? CORRUPT BIG TIME!
killscooter 1 year ago
@twilight0sucks0balls - Why should Byrd's alleged drug use matter? He was a human who was brutally murdered because he was black. You are just trying to blame the victim. Rapists do the same thing.
blazak 1 year ago
@blazak I hate it when someone says something like that. One flaw about someone and it suddenly becomes an excuse for all kinds of things.
roguegirl29 1 year ago
they should've gotten,the same treatment,that james byrd,jr. gotten,even worser.THOSE BACKWOOD HILLBILLIES!!!DIRTY S.O.B'S! I HOPE,THEY GET RAPED,REALLY HARD,UP THE A..WITH A 12 IN. SICK D... WITH THE HIV VIRUS.YA DIGG!!!
Charvya07 2 years ago
I've lived there all my life... Jasper is a great place, the town as a whole was wrongfully demonized. There is no sort of ambient racial tension in the community whatsoever.
shipboy08 2 years ago
You are wrong about Lawrence Brewer, he got the death sentence as well!
JGray917 2 years ago
This fag doesn't know anything. I live in jasper sad to say, about 5 miles from where this happened. They were ALL smoking crack together James Byrd was a well known crackhead and thief here in Jasper. Jobless, collecting unemployment that was spent on drugs every month. Not to say what they did was in any way right no matter how worthless the guy but the news left out how Byrd really was. they deserve the death penalty it's law here in texas you kill someone you get killed back.
PartyTX 2 years ago
Well, PartyTX, you make 2 very sad errors. 1) Using the word "fag" as some sort of lame put down reveals your own bigotry. 2) Saying Byrd was "worthless" implies it's not really that ugly of a crime. Party on.
blazak 2 years ago
@blazak why didnt you comment on what he said about Byrd being a crackhead?
twilight0sucks0balls 1 year ago
@PartyTX lmfao. you're cool.
haily649 1 year ago
@PartyTX You lost all credibility in your first sentence, wherein you blatantly reveal your prejudice.
carrotjuse 1 year ago
fuck, i wish people would just try and do good, this is dum, thoes white guys should get the same thing, butt buy a black man..... idn i feel black or white or whatever color, if u act like that u should get the same to you.....
joshy04743 2 years ago
those 3 guys should have there heads cut off
peewee3030 2 years ago 11
Is Odinism really a white racist religion?
jamestrentsmith 2 years ago
Not really - it's a pagan faith, but white supremacists have hijacked it as their own. The non-racist Odinists are not happy about it.
blazak 2 years ago
I have noticed this to be the case as well. Moreover, white supremacists are actually more "turning away" from Christianity than they are "turning towards" Odinism. In the Texas prison system it is actually used as an organizational "response" to Islam. Likewise, there are a number of black supremacists who turn to Islam for the same reason, but not all.
jamestrentsmith 2 years ago
Here and there someone will mention it, but it doesn't seem to be as big a deal when it's spoken of anymore.
And I don't know how other's who live around here feel about it, but to me it's just like any other case of racist behavior. It happens. I don't like being looked at as a racist person because of someone elses behavior. What happened here doesn't make Jasper's white community racist as a whole. Don't get me wrong there are some racist people here, but that's everywhere.
BrandiKBeddingfield 2 years ago
I live less than a mile from there.
BrandiKBeddingfield 2 years ago
How do folks in Jasper feel about the notoriety this crime has given the town? Do folks still talk about it?
blazak 2 years ago
The Matthew Shepard/James Byrd Jr. Hate Crime Act was passed by Congress yesterday and the President has promised to sign it. Mr. Byrd's death will save others from such a horrible fate.
blazak 2 years ago