You can debate Co2 gas all day. Good or Bad. Why isn't anybody talking about the fact the Earth's orbit and distance from the Sun has altered for periods of time in the past and then returned to normal. Has the Mag Field been somewhat responsible for drastic temperature change in the past? Lots of things to debate. Al may not be totally right, but he's not totally wrong either.
@innmari I'll agree with that insofar that the people he is fighting against deserve no more respect. So what say you on the evidence presented? I don't care for preachers myself I'm only interested in the facts he is presenting. Rather than shooting the messenger which of his statements do you take issue with?
@Redpilldown He may be making a few bucks de-bunking the government/Al Gore BS, but at least he's not afraid to shed light on the lies and corruption taking place to hood-wink you out of your hard earned money.
@igotmoreguns Who is being hoodwinked? You or me that has been a amateur 1-wire weather forecaster for over thirty years. Monckton is a dam liar and has been caught out more times than I can remember.
/user/greenman3610 is a good start if you want the real truth about Monckton....good luck.
Typical government Bullshit...denying the problem, saying that everything is fine that there is no need to worry...now where have we heard THAT before...
Oh Dear. Lord Munckton was not an adviser to Margret Thatcher. He is a liar. If you want to know what the science actually says without spin, then I recommend you look at Potholer54 channel with a whole series dedicated to the subject and three videos specifically addressing Munckton's deliberate misrepresentation of the science.
we've managed to outlaw fluoride to spread in the air or put in the rivers and oceans because it's such a dangerous toxin yet they tell you it's good for your teeth when they put it in your toothpaste and water supply somehow that's ok. Put your science aside for a sec and look at the politics that funds it. Do you realize what you are endorsing? or more specifically who?
Al Gore did indeed get things wrong. However, Monckton is a psychopathical liar from this to saying he was an adviser to Margret Thatcher (he wasn't). A lot of his nonsense has been exposed in some excellent videos by Potholer54 and I recommend them to anyone.
Ok so scientist think of an idea to make Mars warmer for us by Greenhouse effects..pumping a lot of CO2 intentionally so the atmosphere could get thicker and trap more heat from The Sun afcourse..Now he's telling us that more CO2 in the envoirment is pumped in but it's not our fault and it's not bad?The fact that the thicker the atmosphere is the more heat is trapped from the Sun is nott true? Ok..I not say Al Gore was right about everything.But this guy makes us look so innocent!
That the glacier that al gore in his inconvenient truth propaganda said was receding is actually growing seems to be driving the carbon lobby monkies more insane than they already are.
Perito Moreno one of many glaciers around the globe that are growing. How inconvenient for the carboneer Taliban agenda
@DaveGibbagglers "Perito Moreno one of many glaciers around the globe that are growing."
I'd like to know your source of information for this claim when the vast majority of glaciers are retreating. Why not try the World Glacier Monitoring Service for more information on this issue or are they all in on the scam too? :)
@Richard482 Enjoy the growing glaciers around the globe friend. we need good and psoitive news instead of all the carbon lobby influenced doom and gloom. Enjoy the growing glaciers f
@Richard482 I watched it for the sport of it, It's more attacking the messenger vs the science behind it. I agree he has some points and I encourage all view both sides of the debate before taking sides on such a multi-faceted debate. BTW google "NASA admits all previous warming trends caused by sun" you might find that of interest.
@MrXstacey Solar irradiance and carbon dioxide are the two biggest variables which affect our climate, when one is constant, the other is the main factor, so what's your point.As with any claim like '"NASA admits all previous warming trends caused by sun" its always best to go to the source which I will send you.
Personally I don't rank Al any higher than Christopher as far as political knowledge, they are both spinning knowledge to their respective sides. Unfortunately due to my own due diligence I moreso side to Lord Moncton's views than I do to Al Gore's. I'm not claiming either is absolutely correct, you got 2 politicians squaring off. Both are spinning the truth, it's what politicians do. Tell me that you believe Al Gore is 100% correct so I can shove your head up your asshole. Vice versa is ok
@MrXstacey Monckton isn't 'spinning knowledge. He's misrepresenting the scientific community as Potholer54 explains very well in his videos on the subject
@MrXstacey As Potholer54 says. Al Gore isn't a climatologist and nor is this bafoon. I recommend you watch some of Potholer54s excellent videos exposing this clown as a willful liar who clearly works for some vested interest in denying climate change. There is only one group of people who's comments are worth a damn on this subject and it is climatologists, they are all but unanimous. There is global warming and man has had a significant part in it.
@William00048 If you read back far enough you'll find I never said Monckton was some kind of god, I said he's no more of a scientist than Al Gore. I'm not interested in shoot the messenger type videos they are fruitless to watch as they don't get to the real issues. Climatologists are not unanimous on this topic so I call crap on your statement. IF man is playing a part in climate change it's only a bit part and if you don't think the climatologists have a vested interest you're sadly mistaken.
@MrXstacey I said "they are all but unanimous". There are some dissenters & not all work for oil companies, but most of the them do. However of those decanters almost none say there is no climate warming & the main point of disagreement is how much of this effect is down to human activity. Of course climatologists have a vested interest... in their science and their careers. If they publish nonsense for peer review they will be eviscerated and become lab assistants rather than project leaders.
@MrXstacey I didn't suggest or think for a minute that you did think he was some kind of god. If a messenger brings you a pack of lies then you really shouldn't be too interested in what he has to say. If those lies threaten your very life, then actually, you should shoot the messenger. If he is believed he will kill most of the human race. I have heard a most reputable thinker who says forget climate change, it is real, but now unstoppable, everything should be thrown into surviving it...
@William00048 well I appreciate your moxy on this but I'm not sure you understand the implications of you being wrong. If you are right our children will burn to death, if I'm right they will be enslaved forever under a tyranny the likes of which we have not seen in our lifetime. This isn't science, this is political science and you really have to look at the history of how this all came about to get the full picture. Money talks and bullshit can be purchased cheaply at elite rates these days.
@MrXstacey So do you have an answer there smart guy or do you want to place your fate in the hands of an overtly corrupt government? I mean that global government they are trying to form under the auspices of the UN which we don't have any political say in their actions, the EU experiment is case in point, they are kleptomaniacs ready to steal anything they can and especially your freedom. I'm willing to work with you on solutions, but governments have none. Their actions speak volumes.
@MrXstacey Recent case in point, I don;t have all the details yet, but the recent greek debt situation involves negotiations over a massive solar project, the Helios project where 200km of solar generation equipped land is being given to bankers to appease greek debt. The Ron Paul tea party movement was co-opted by the Tea-o-cons, the Occupy movement which has many many faces is trying to ask what is the one demand of the occupy movement, don't you get it? You are being manipulated
@MrXstacey ... as an example. Having brought up in a religious family I remained interested in the truth. Science has to my satisfaction proven that the God Abraham was on about doesn't exist. Religion is very damaging to our society and again will lead to the destruction of the human race. Although Coughlan666 or what ever he is called now agrees, I don't want to be associated with him. He is vile and a liar and does my cause no good. You should feel the same about Muckton.
@William00048 I posted this video because it was an under reported side of the argument that others were not discussing. Regardless of the holes you all can pick on him personally, there is a lot of merit in many of his arguments. A judge decided that at least 9 of his many claims had merit. So I don't write him off as an idiot, I just take his position into consideration. Nothing more. Politically no one has offered a viable answer to resolving this situation once and for all. yourself included
@MrXstacey I don't think he is an idiot either. I think him very canny. However, that x amount of words out of y may have merit are not at issue. The issue is does he present his argument by misrepresenting the science or not? It is proven that he does misrepresent the science.
Again, if this is the best that the view of nothing is wrong so stop worrying can offer, then this view has no merit. If there is better evidence that nothing is wrong, then present it.
@MrXstacey My friend. I am not interested in lies no matter from what side. I actually don't have a side other than reality. I deeply respect and want to know the truth. If I see respectable scientific peer reviewed evidence that hasn't been shredded by peer review I am interested in it and my view/outlook changes with it. Potholer54s videos quite clearly show that Muckton is a liar and I would not want him on my side no matter what side of the argument I was on.
As a disbeliever in global warming, disregard the term climate change as that is what climate historically does is change so to call what happens naturally a bad thing makes you an idiot first and foremost. that aside, global warming happens, global cooling happens and the same idiots have raised the alarm on both sides. The proof is in their actions, "we need to tax more" for what? have you got a plan to stop it? Show me the plan, if it's viable I might support it. Until then it's BS politics.
@William00048 How many reports did you see that claimed the occupy movement are a bunch of ___ (insert stereotype here) I'm excited to see people engaging each other in political conversation inspired to change the world. I'm not against your drive, but you'll hit a pole on the path you are on. I'm not going to convince you of anything but if you have a specific claim I might be able to source the "counter document" If you're willing to listen to both sides I'll engage you in discussion
@William00048 ... however his depressing outlook suggests that there are only 2 lifeboats on the planet. The UK & New Zealand. If you haven't already got your ticket onto these life rafts then I suggest you start getting onto those who can do something about global warming no matter how painful to our wealth. We can be much poorer than we are now, or be is starving & dead. Not a fun choice but that is what rational thinkers do. They look at the facts no matter how unpleasant then get on with it.
@Richard482 I think the reason Moncton added in the ten year reference is because at the time of that email there's been 10 years of cooling.. so hes simply putting the comment in better context....You're doing what all AGW debunker-debunkers do and pick on irrelevant points that make no difference to the argument...the REAL isssue is that supposed lack of warming
@OtagoMark You can do a lot better than listen to Monckton who's a liar and a fraud. Watch the rest of Potholer54's series deunking Monckton's claims. If you want a skeptical view of climate science then listen to qualified skeptics . Here's a good start.
@Richard482 Yer I've watched his videos and I think you should watch them again with a more critical eye, Lord Monckton make logical sense to me, and keeps things in context, Potholer54 does not, that link you posted is a perfect example, there is a big difference between AGW and plain old global warming... but he does what every fanatic does and puts all skeptics in the camp of denying global warming, when in fact what they're denying is AGW...Lord Moncton say there was no climate crisis.....
@OtagoMark "he does what every fanatic does and puts all skeptics in the camp of denying global warming" No what Potholer54 did was simply point out the scientific errors made by Monckton. If you can prove that Potholer54 is wrong in any of these cases then please be my guest. As shown in the video you watched the qualified skeptics i.e not Monckton, agree that man activities are causing the planet to warm. There argument is that we don't have to do anything about it.
@Richard482 First you tell me that it wasn't Potholer54 in the video because the voices were different and now you're saying it IS him, which is it?.... Yes technically man is warming the planet... i.e if i switch an electric heater on that gets its power from a nuclear power station then yes I'm adding heat to the planet... but what Monckton is saying is that its "vanishingly small" compared to natural heating cooling. and so nothing need done about it.
@Richard482 Name the most prominent scientific error Monckton made...not a trivial one... give us the one you found to be THE worst or most telling...I really don't want to have to sift through those badly made propagandas videos...if they were honestly doen with out the misleading strawman arguments and quotes out of context then sure but they're not
@OtagoMark While acknowledging weather isn't climate. Look out the window. I live in Malaysia where a few degrees each way really does make a difference. 34c is repressive, 31c is quite comfortable. There is no doubt here that things are a great deal hotter than they used to be in our life times. You have clearly decided your view rather than an open mind & look at those that agree. Potholer has provided proof of Monckton's lies. Potholer doesn't just state his source, he shows you it on screen.
@William00048 Warmer temperature aren't proof of man made global warming (AGW) , why do you guy continually use that argument as proof? melting ice isnt proof of AGW either...the planet was warming BEFORE the industrial age, before all the co2 was released by man.... If anyone has a closed mind its you, you experience a 3 degree increase in temps and immediately blame man hehhe even though the total warming attributed to man over the last hundred years is less than a degree you moron
@OtagoMark Yeah, the roof falling in on your head isn't proof of the building falling down. You denialists just decide what you want to believe then go with whom ever is spouting it. I don't want there to be global warming caused by the actions of man. Who would? I have been convinced by the evidence presented by those qualified to know. I am also convinced from historical evidence that man often destroys his environment. I think the procrastination will go on until it is all too late.
@William00048 Let me put things in perspective this way. Ron Paul was the inspiration of the Tea party and since it was co-opted by the GOP RP fans want nothing to do with the tea party. The occupy movement currently is being invaded by groups wishing to co-opt the movement. I'm for a better more sustainable world but the green movement has also been co-opted by crooks. as a denialist I mostly deny your co-opters. Not the message you are striving for.
@MrXstacey In short, if the best proponent for your side of the argument is a vile irrefutably proven, welcome to try to sue me for liable any time, liar like Mockton, you really should be examining what side of the argument you should be on.
If you are convinced that Man Made/Assisted Global Warming is a crock of shit. Then you would be best served to find a more reputable source.
@William00048 If your best proposed solution is to pay government shills to resolve the issue then I have to ask you to do the same. Hardly scientific other than political science, you'll need a better source to convince me. And bring actual data to the party cuz everything I have witnessed in this debacle has been overtly manipulated to serve a political cause. I can't get the data to evaluate myself, they cite it has been destroyed. That's not acceptable as an argument.
@MrXstacey Oh dear. Not the big government argument. I didn't offer any solution. I just said this guy was a proven liar. You seem to admit that he is a liar but has some true points. If you have to check other sorces to find the true facts why not just use video from their presentations? Before moving the argument onto what to do about it, it seems sensible to discover if there is an issue. It now seems clear that there is. Is it solvable? I don't know...
@MrXstacey I also know that no individual action will do anything. No individual government ((shills or otherwise) but it seems to me the people clouding the issue are big pollution companies) aren't big enough. It will take a world wide concerted effort. Is this achievable in real politic? Probably not. Sometimes it sucks to be right.
By the way, if you don't like your govt sort it out. No society is possible without govt. The biggest killer isn't tyrants its anarchy. I think we're done.
@William00048 The roof falling in on my head isnt proof someone caused it to fall, its proof that the roof is falling down Back to melting ICE, if ice melts it doesn proved that man is the cause...to suggest it does is silly in the extreme. Ice was melting long before the industrial age... why deny that? you seem to see only the fact that fit your point of view
@OtagoMark When nuclear armed Pakistan starts to starve they will I am sure demand food from other countries on threat of launching. The can not have what others don't have and I am sure they will launch because desperate people do desperate things. All out problems come from overpopulation. The religion addled US answer is to do all it can to promote as many children being born as possible.
@William00048 So I say melting ice isnt proof of AGW ad you come back with mad Indians with nukes and the US must have more children to combat nukes?? explain that to me? hehhehhehhee
@OtagoMark Decide what lifestyle you want then work towards what world population this is sustainable for. For the US way of life, with abominations like the Humvee, the figure is 1.5 Billion as we breach 7 Billion. Does the US want to change it's life style? No. Does it want to help reduce in as humane a way possible to 1.5 Billion? No the opposite. If man doesn't do it for itself, nature will & wont magically stop when we reach the appropriate level. Lunatics like you will kill us all.
@William00048 Why should it? its not my fault or the U.S's that there are poor countries...its not my fault that some bloke down the road is out of work... should I start starving myself because some guy in africa is starving? life in africa's no worse than it was 100,000 years ago... why should My country hold itself back and wait for the poorest human to catch up? lunatics like me?? I think we should use our wealth to combat climate change not chase shadows
@Richard482 Lord Moncton said there was no climate crisis.....that not the same as denying climate change.. so this guy is basically using strawman arguments to fool weak minded fools like you...
@Richard482 Yes Potholers54, He's either got extremely bad logic skills or hes diliberately trying to mislead guys like you with by taking statements out of context and using strawman arguments...In that link you gave me he lists monckton and being a global warming deniers and play audio of monckton denying ,not global warming, but that there was a global crisis...which is different!! not the same!! and he lumps AGW deniers in with Global warming deniers to make it easier to attack them
@OtagoMark "Lord Monckton make logical sense to me, and keeps things in context," Are you kidding? There were 21 different mistakes made by Monckton in his slideshow case. Why not take up Potholer54 challenge and find something that Monckton got right?
"In that link you gave me he lists monckton and being a global warming deniers "
I hope by he you wasn't refering to Potholer54 because he didn't make that video. Didn't you notice the voices were different?
@Richard482 Isn't the content of the video you posted what was relevant? and not the poster??I've I've mistake the poster with the narrator of the video it matters little to what I was saying...if potholer54 agrees with that video then his logic is as fucked up as that of the narrator
@Richard482 Con-men often do make logical sense. If they didn't they would starve. When he states a source, does his statement quote or at least represent that source accurately? Potholer54 has demonstrated that he simply states a reputable source then says what he wants or he quotes people who aren't qualified to comment anyway. If you have watched Potholer54 videos on this then there are none so blind as those who refuse to see so don't bother answering.
@William00048 I think you've got me wrong. I agree with you that Monckton is a fraud, a liar and that Potholer54 did a great job demostrating this in his vids.
@Richard482 Sorry, must have seen some denialist pinging you & hit you instead. People seem happier to believe they can keep having a party without getting a hang over. They just don't want to hear those trained to research & interpret data. Rather hear oil company puppets saying all's well. It all comes down to too many people on a finite world. Bet Monckton equivalents on Easter Island said there will always be enough trees to make fishing boats right until there weren't & they all starved.
@xingwei12 What's wrong with debunking Moncktons claims when they are incorrect. Watch the whole series starting with this vid (5 in total) and tell me if you still think Monckton is a reliable source of information.
@Richard482 what so u actually believe in global warming, we are heading into an ice age, anyone who thinks govts putting a price on carbon is a good thing is seriously misinformed and has no clue of the lies and deceptions the Oligarchy is capable of.
@Richard482 well i dont know what rubbish you have been reading but its wrong.. the earth is cooling as we more further from the sun. we also have more volcanic activity and this is the same scenario that caused the last ice age. learn the truth and stop spreading your disinfo govt propaganda..
@SovereignBeing Judging from your username and your "govt propaganda" comment I think that the anthropogenic global warming theory goes against your personal and political beliefs. That's fine but it aint science.
@SovereignBeing As for the last ice age, look up Milankovitch factors and cycles. If you want to learn the science on the subject of global warming then put your personal beliefs to one side and watch the vids by the following users:
I’d like to see Gore actually take this effort and preach to the people who are actually responsible for the population explosion — Non-whites. They breed like bunnies than beg for handouts, food, clothing, education, medicine. You can count the number of seconds on one hand that he keeps caring about overpopulation once someone starts screaming racism.
No, what Gore means here is that us white people are screwing up the world by having “too many” children.
al gore is a detriment to his own cause even GCSE student knows that you cannot state a causal relationship from a single corrolation. and the thing about tuvalu, reading from Edexcel AS geography i can report that "in 2001, New Zealand agered to accept 75 tuvaluans per year as environmental refugees, possibly until 2050. nothing about an evaccuation. i am especially annoyed because as a student i was shown al gores video and many in my class will have taken on what he said as fact.
If you google "politically incorrect glacier" they say this Perito Moreno glacier was used in Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" propaganda and said it was receding when in truth its growing. Liars
Perito Moreno the glacier al gore used in his carboneer propaganda flix an inconvenient truth as receding when its growing. Thats a important glacier as al gore said. Growing glaciers because of global warming, lol
@cristop5 What a dumb shit you are mr plant doctor. I'm going to make sure I save your stupid spam post. I'll be sure and remind everyone of the "PhD" who acts like a spoiled child caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Do you also leap over buildings in a single bound? In your mind, you can be anything you want, including a plant doctor, lol, but your your mask got ripped off for all to see the truth.
@DaveGibbagglers What matters here is that you are spreading a lie. Anyone can take a few minutes to compare the photos in Gore's movie with photos & tourist postcards of the famous Upsala glacier. They will immediately see that the photos in 'An Inconvenient Truth' are of the Upsala glacier - and not the Perito Moreno glacier as you have been spamming all over youtube.
An honest man would retract his error. Instead you are blustering because you don't like being exposed as the liar you are.
@marvinc999 If you seriously don't understand the science that has brought about a clear consensus among climatologists that man made GHGs have emerged as the prime driver of global warming over the last several decades, this video may help:
/watch?v=5Pjbykd2ywU
After that, if you think something else is causing the warming, what is it? Solar irradiance has been declining, so that doesn't explain it. Anyway, watch the video and if you then have an alternative hypothesis to GHGs, lets hear it.
@marvinc999 1) WHAT 'warming' ? If you look at any global temperature database, they all show warming. If you have MS Excel here are three videos to talk you through a quick analysis. Have a go yourself.
a). CRU database watch?v=OS44qirIOcU
b). NASA database watch?v=8Q97zVngPGU
c). UAH satellite data watch?v=I3q3zs0EVDU
2) How many GHGs were around in Chaucer's day. The MWP was not global & warmer than now.
@marvinc999 3) Of course the Sun is the MAIN driver !
The sun has matched temperatures pretty well for the last 1150 years, BUT over the last 30-40 years solar irradiance has waned while temperatures have risen. For this reason recent warming cannot be attributed to the sun. Read this:
Please don't make assumptions about my 'not understanding the science' - merely because I disagree with the fatuous AGW hypothesis.
Why not bring THAT charge against Lindzen, Carter, Akosofu, Morner et al - to say nothing of the 31 THOUSAND scientists who signed the Manhattan Declaration ?
THEY don't falsify data - the Alarmists do.
THEY don't suppress facts - the Alarmists do.
And there was also 'consensus' among the Nazi Race Scientists.
@toadston and Al Gore doesn't have ties to oil? Stop attacking the messenger and present your argument based on the facts for or against the message. If you can't go research that.
@MrXstacey Okay. I'll tell you the lies. First he lies about CO2 causing warming in the past in ice ages, it is well know that major ice ages are caused by Milankovitch cycles. And apparently he believes, from his argument, that the release of CO2 into the atmosphere via fossil fuel use is natural. Neither Gore or Monkton are scientists and have no training as scientists. And his claim that greenland has been growing is false. and so on...
Oh my! Documentary film or a short presentation is not science. Both have generalisations that simply are too broad or unspesific to be true (or false). For example neither tells the timescale of sea level rise.
In best case claims and statements can be based on science. And presented without intentional bias.
I see comments on here arguing over what certain organizations say vs others and I think if people(many seem to get it-pretty well anyway) really knew who runs this world and how it is run, the global warming agenda would be self evident and if everyone knew what is planned and what they push, the only regular people left who would be promoting this bull, would be low-level psychopaths, unlike those at the top, who are full fledged psychopaths.
Never heard of Richard or Fred so you can't claim my ideas come from there. Incidentally, BP was a major funder of the university of east anglia, the majority was government funding within UN influenced nations. Money our governments spend on our behalf to tell us we're gonna die based on what we exhale. I'd like to know the truth myself but the data and science have become so politically skewed that the truth no longer exists.
Unbelievable how many gullible people follow charlatan Christopher Monckton, also at this forum. This guy isn't even a scientist, and far away from being a climate expert.
- At the warming following the last Ice Age, CO2 lags temperature because greenhouse gases didn't trigger the warming, but a change in the Earth's orbit. It doesn't disprove the fact that CO'2 can trigger a GW at all.
This is basic knowledge for climate experts - didn't Monck know that or did he ignore it intentionally?
@Tervinger I believe he is countering Al Gore's claims. Even if I took your claim as Gospel I would still argue that AL Gore was equally misleading. I don't believe at any point he stated he was a scientist. Only that he studies the data of those that produce it. I also think it's questionable as to what constitutes a climate expert. In AL Gore's circles they are political bodies, not scientific ones. UN, IPCC, EPA, etc are political bodies. Who funded the researchers? I find it questionable.
@MrXstacey Monckton loves to play the expert. He was introduced as 'former scientific advisor of Margaret Thatcher' (he never was), and he never rejected to be called that. He also uses titles and symbols (one that looks like the seal of the British parliament, to suggest seriosity and 'officialness' to his naive audience)
What constitutes a (serious!) climate expert: His scientific work of course, like every other scientist. He has to do research and publish papers in peer-reviewed journals.
@MrXstacey The researchers in climate science are usually funded like all other scientists. It also depends on the particular country. Many work at universities and institutes which have a huge variety of different natural sciences.
BTW, a disproportionately high number of the few remaining skeptics in climate science work for oil and energy companies (for example, Richard Lindzen who is an advisor for Exxon Mobil, or Fred Singer who is/was consultant for numerous companies).
@Tervinger a high number of the few remaining sceptics? the number is increasing by the day. work for oil companies? you have your facts completely upside down. you talk of peer-reviewed journals and know nothing about who funds them, who can get articles published and who can't, etc. You could'nt be more wrong if you tried. Frig man, they spell out their agenda in many books, why don't you read some of them instead of spouting television "facts".
@metalways Your claims are ridiculous. I don't need any 'television facts'. Unlike you, I have all my knowledge on topic from real scientific research.
The number of skeptics (I speak of real climate scientists) is definitely not increasing, simply because all skeptic arguments have been rebutted, while the evidence for AGW becomes more and more.
You will not be able to present a single skeptic argument that could not be easily disproven. Try it.
@Tervinger Just because you say something over and over, does'nt make it true. This is stupid so I will only say that I am sure you can find someone to argue with, maybe one of 30,000 scientists(over 9,000 of which are phd's) who signed a petition saying Gore's movie is bunk. I guess you could get 2,500(opps, the IPCC has less members now), to agree with you, most of whom are bureaucrats btw. I acknowledge bigger numbers on either side proves nothing, does'nt make it true, I am making a point
@metalways All I say is based on results of scientific research ONLY, and I never state merely my personal opinion. I always back up my comments on certain aspects with references and I don't need to repeat something to make it more true. If you think otherwise, I will give you the full names of the references on demand, any time.
Also, I don't care for Al Gore's opinion or that of the IPCC, or the opinion of politicians, environmentalists, etc.
@metalways You refer to the Oregon (OISM) Petition, alright.
1. That petition - signed by ~31,000 scientists - merely represents 0.3% of all science graduates. It is not representative for science at all.
2. Only a few scientists (about 40 , that makes ~0.13%) of those who have signed the petition are scientists who have specialised in climate science. Even less do actually research on the climate, publishing papers on topic.
@Tervinger that your side likes to use the consensus argument, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are liars and this is an agenda (agenda 21 to be more precise). Either that, or they are all insane, but really it's an agenda. They know what they are doing, like Gore knew when he bought a mansion next to the water that sea levels are'nt going to rise like he tells everyone, or he never would have bought it. Read the first global revolution and then tell me it's not an agenda.
@metalways My side? The only 'side' I've chosen is that of serious science. I don't care for Al Gore or political opinion, not even for the IPCC.
The consensus is not an argument to prove AGW. But it reflects that there is an overwhelming number of evidence for it, supported by very most experts.
(Ref.:
"Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change", Doran, 2009;
"Expert credibility in climate change", Anderegg, 2010;
"The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change", Oreskes, 2004)
If there's one single ounce of compelling evidence that manmade CO2 'causes' Global Warming, which isn't refuted by a ton of real-world counter-evidence, then kindly reveal it.
To Monckton.
Those who assert that A causes B bear the onus of proof.
It is NOT for the dissentients to prove that A may NOT cause B, but to test the validity of the evidence upon which the claim is made. As Monckton does brilliantly.
It's that simple (but the simple-minded don't get it).
@marvinc999 "If there's one single ounce of compelling evidence that manmade CO2 'causes' Global Warming, which isn't refuted by a ton of real-world counter-evidence, then kindly reveal it."
Hypacrytical? Let's talk about it for a minute! a lady say's to you while your enjoying a smoke,"SECOUND HAND SMOKE KILLS! YOU SHOULD PUT THAT OUT!" Then she gets into a Huge SUV and drives off! "WTF? Im going to die faster sucking in her exhaust fumes than she is smelling my smoke you say!
The same people spreading the Climate Change/ Global warming lie! Use everything they complain about and thier only solution is to CHARGE YOU TAXES JUST TO BREATH? AND COWS TO FART OR BURP? Are you kidding me??? Al Gore??? Mansion/Jet/Limousine Why not a Grass Hut and Take a Walk?
Hypacrytical? Let's talk about it for a minute! a lady say's to you while your enjoying a smoke,"SECOUND HAND SMOKE KILLS! YOU SHOULD PUT THAT OUT!" Then she gets into a Huge SUV and drives off! "WTF? Im going to die faster sucking in her exhaust fumes than she is smelling my smoke you say!
Interresting, but kind of missing the point. As of now (+ or - 5 years) our oil extraction rates are decreasing. So in the near future our carbon emissions will also decease, whether we like it or not. I'm not saying that global warming is a lie, but politions use global warming is a nice way of getting us to prepare for less oil consumption. I haven't watched the whole video, so apologies if Monckton does make this point.
@yarco8000 I agree with you to a point. I think the hidden ajenda behind the global warming scare may be to move us away from such a huge dependancy on Oil, either foreign or domestic. I think they are really affraid that one day soon, China or Russia will come after us for the Alaskan oil which we don't want to disturb. Of coarse, there's LOTS of debate on just how much oil is really left under arabian soil. The opinions vary wildly.
What a wierd time we live in... I must confess that as a Star Trek fan, I kinda like the idea of a world government.. But for the life of me, I can't imagine how we could EVER be under one flag with countries like Pakistan and so on. No facebook? That's sacrilige!
@Nash1a that's the issue at heart, if we were to have a one world govt. would you want it run by those who want to poison/ impoverish / demean / misrepresent your values / insert others here... Who gets to decide how you and everyone on this planet lives? remember Logan's Run? On the facebook thing, Muslims believe Mohammed should not be visualized and they are offended by such things, if I pissed on a crucifix Christians would be equally upset, though neither really hurts anyone.
@MrXstacey I'm glad you brought that up. In my faith, I may not like what a muslim might choose to do to a crusifix, but that doesn't affect my faith. Why would it? I don't understand why a muslim should get all bent into rage if I don't respect his beliefs. HE SHOULDNT EXPECT ME TO. His beliefs should only pertain to him and his family.
@MrXstacey There's a disturbing new study out that reveals over 91% of all new studies... are disturbing. When I wrote that, it was intended as a joke but in todays 'climate' of study for profit, its had a sad ring of truth. What has happened to science all of a sudden, that its science for profit or not at all?
@Nash1a I THINK THIS SAYS IT ALL ABOUT THE MUSLIM RELIGION:
"When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters." (Sura 47:4).
They don't give a shit about your religion...just that you AREN'T Muslim.
this guy is a douche he is trying to disregard al gore by praying of the stupidity of his audience. at around 5:45 he asks if anyone tried to melt ice at -7.1 C. OF COARSE U CANT MELT ICE AT -7.1 C....WHEN YOU'RE AT HOME AT NORMAL ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE but at that high there is much less atmospheric pressure at it can melt at that temperature. INFACT AT THAT ALTITUDE YOU CAN BOIL WATER WAY BELOW a 100 degrees. SO WHY DONT YOU ADD THAT TO MONCKTON F***ING ERRORS
@awesomeguydumb Ok, so he made a mistake. That still doesn't defeat the main premise: that global climate change is NORMAL. I always thought people undertsood that the only thing you can bank on is change. This notion that the earth's temp is so fragile that if it should just change by a degree or so, we'er all dead - that idea is BOGUS.
An inconvenient tax will soon be going to an inconvenient WORLD organization & god knows what they will really spend it on....probably devices to kill us off after they have robbed us blind.
@999Atwood best summation of the events in question i have read all day, there is more truth in this statement than in the whole global warming/whining debacle.
A real INCONVENIENT TRUTH to Gore & his Goldman Sachs partners & AGW Cult
Here's a great expose of what the GATT expansion to the WTO (orchestrated by Clinton/Gore) has produced in terms of environmental damage by moving manufacturing in the West that had Environmental laws to pollute with impunity in the Socialists/Limousine Liberals current favorite failed utopia, China
Al Gore, is not a clever liar he's a Bliderburg group stooge. There are more holes in his bullshit agenda than the 9/11 official story. He has made more money out of the fear generated by global warming than anyone else. Look up his company Kleiner Perkins...it's all about the money and a One World Government. I'm a committed environmentalist and he almost fooled me... Not any more, wake up World we are being hoodwinked
Al Gore was one of the architects of two of the most anti-American, anti-human rights, & anti-environmental legislation in the history of the United States. He was in office when NAFTA & GATT expansion to the WTO happened.
Multiple tens of millions of jobs that paid good wages were shipped to Al Gore's Marxist friends in China & the third world so that corporations who greased Gore's pockets could exploit the Environment & Human Rights & stuff their fat pockets with money
nobody seems to realize the simple fact that even if the sea was to raise by 210 feet (all ice melting in the world) only humans would be greatly impacted,
flora and fauna would continue so would we... guess what knobs, probably no the best idea to gather together and jiggle infront of the ocean as it was,
screw what looks good surviving is better, let nature take its course, take your licks and get on with life, we suck get over it we are going to have to pay in some way for our audacity
Those who know this GW charade is a fraud, all you have to do is explain to people that besides the nut job Al Gore being involved (the Al Gore who helped bring us the economically & environmentally destructive NAFTA, GATT, & WTO)
just tell people they have a Railroad Engineer in charge of the IPCC
How many IPCC members are also Lionel train collectors, or are model railroaders like their chief Choo Choo Charlie?
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You guys are all idiots. True, al gore was wrong about many things but about global warming but so is this guy. You idiots think that al gore is just spitting propaganda and paranoia but this guy skews the truth even more. His al gore #11 error was straight up stupid. "has anyone tried to melt water at minus 7 degrees Cecilius" what a joke. Water evaporates at every temperature; temperature only determines the rate of evaporation. What a terrible point appealing to idiots who don't know shit.
@marinqf When a rabbit or deer eats grass, they crap it out in the form of little turd pellets, but when a cow eats grass it produces a large pile of crap with no particular shape. Why do you think that is?
He had a minor slip of the tounge, and corrected himself immediately. He meant ICE. Not water. Of course people will jump on any slip of the tounge he makes
It could have been just a slip of the tongue. Still the way he made the remark was in such a mocking tone and he was completely wrong, which made me heated. I still think that many of this guys point are very incorrect but that doesn't make him and everyone here who agrees with him an idiot.
Super Video. Just the right message.
Global warming is not as serious as thy make out.
TheWWEN1 22 hours ago
You can debate Co2 gas all day. Good or Bad. Why isn't anybody talking about the fact the Earth's orbit and distance from the Sun has altered for periods of time in the past and then returned to normal. Has the Mag Field been somewhat responsible for drastic temperature change in the past? Lots of things to debate. Al may not be totally right, but he's not totally wrong either.
Boogyman4050 1 week ago
The fact that he is a Lord does not exactly help on his credibility as an independent source, does it......?
innmari 1 month ago
@innmari I'll agree with that insofar that the people he is fighting against deserve no more respect. So what say you on the evidence presented? I don't care for preachers myself I'm only interested in the facts he is presenting. Rather than shooting the messenger which of his statements do you take issue with?
MrXstacey 1 month ago
Al 'D' Gore.
howardtlewisiiiify 2 months ago
Lord Monckton is a prat and talks out of his ass. He is in it for the $.....fact!
Redpilldown 2 months ago
@Redpilldown He may be making a few bucks de-bunking the government/Al Gore BS, but at least he's not afraid to shed light on the lies and corruption taking place to hood-wink you out of your hard earned money.
igotmoreguns 2 months ago
@igotmoreguns Who is being hoodwinked? You or me that has been a amateur 1-wire weather forecaster for over thirty years. Monckton is a dam liar and has been caught out more times than I can remember.
/user/greenman3610 is a good start if you want the real truth about Monckton....good luck.
Redpilldown 2 months ago
the sound is too low!!!
gydur1 3 months ago
Typical government Bullshit...denying the problem, saying that everything is fine that there is no need to worry...now where have we heard THAT before...
thepokok12345 3 months ago
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Oh Dear. Lord Munckton was not an adviser to Margret Thatcher. He is a liar. If you want to know what the science actually says without spin, then I recommend you look at Potholer54 channel with a whole series dedicated to the subject and three videos specifically addressing Munckton's deliberate misrepresentation of the science.
The truth is out there.
William00048 3 months ago
we've managed to outlaw fluoride to spread in the air or put in the rivers and oceans because it's such a dangerous toxin yet they tell you it's good for your teeth when they put it in your toothpaste and water supply somehow that's ok. Put your science aside for a sec and look at the politics that funds it. Do you realize what you are endorsing? or more specifically who?
MrXstacey 4 months ago
Al Gore did indeed get things wrong. However, Monckton is a psychopathical liar from this to saying he was an adviser to Margret Thatcher (he wasn't). A lot of his nonsense has been exposed in some excellent videos by Potholer54 and I recommend them to anyone.
William00048 4 months ago
Ok so scientist think of an idea to make Mars warmer for us by Greenhouse effects..pumping a lot of CO2 intentionally so the atmosphere could get thicker and trap more heat from The Sun afcourse..Now he's telling us that more CO2 in the envoirment is pumped in but it's not our fault and it's not bad?The fact that the thicker the atmosphere is the more heat is trapped from the Sun is nott true? Ok..I not say Al Gore was right about everything.But this guy makes us look so innocent!
DimitarUnbreakable 5 months ago
That the glacier that al gore in his inconvenient truth propaganda said was receding is actually growing seems to be driving the carbon lobby monkies more insane than they already are.
Perito Moreno one of many glaciers around the globe that are growing. How inconvenient for the carboneer Taliban agenda
DaveGibbagglers 7 months ago
@DaveGibbagglers "Perito Moreno one of many glaciers around the globe that are growing."
I'd like to know your source of information for this claim when the vast majority of glaciers are retreating. Why not try the World Glacier Monitoring Service for more information on this issue or are they all in on the scam too? :)
Richard482 7 months ago
@Richard482 Enjoy the growing glaciers around the globe friend. we need good and psoitive news instead of all the carbon lobby influenced doom and gloom. Enjoy the growing glaciers f
DaveGibbagglers 7 months ago
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@DaveGibbagglers "Enjoy the growing glaciers around the globe friend" "we need good and psoitive news" Even if it's bullshit?
Richard482 7 months ago
More crap from Monckton. Everyone should watch this and the other video's by Potholer54 debunking Monckton's claims
watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA&feature=channel_video_title
Richard482 8 months ago
@Richard482 I watched it for the sport of it, It's more attacking the messenger vs the science behind it. I agree he has some points and I encourage all view both sides of the debate before taking sides on such a multi-faceted debate. BTW google "NASA admits all previous warming trends caused by sun" you might find that of interest.
MrXstacey 8 months ago
@MrXstacey I think you should watch all the whole video series by Potholer54 starting with this one.
watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo
Richard482 8 months ago
@Richard482 Actually I've watched several of his posts, did you take the time to watch what I sugessted?
MrXstacey 8 months ago
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@MrXstacey "Actually I've watched several of his posts," Watch the rest then.
"so I can shove your head up your asshole." Quit with the insults. It does nothing for your case.
Was Al Gores film 100% true. A few of the idea's were incorrect but the general points he was making in that film were accurate
watch?v=LhuxXkONmgY
Richard482 8 months ago
@MrXstacey Solar irradiance and carbon dioxide are the two biggest variables which affect our climate, when one is constant, the other is the main factor, so what's your point.As with any claim like '"NASA admits all previous warming trends caused by sun" its always best to go to the source which I will send you.
Richard482 8 months ago
Personally I don't rank Al any higher than Christopher as far as political knowledge, they are both spinning knowledge to their respective sides. Unfortunately due to my own due diligence I moreso side to Lord Moncton's views than I do to Al Gore's. I'm not claiming either is absolutely correct, you got 2 politicians squaring off. Both are spinning the truth, it's what politicians do. Tell me that you believe Al Gore is 100% correct so I can shove your head up your asshole. Vice versa is ok
MrXstacey 8 months ago
@MrXstacey Monckton isn't 'spinning knowledge. He's misrepresenting the scientific community as Potholer54 explains very well in his videos on the subject
Richard482 8 months ago
@MrXstacey As Potholer54 says. Al Gore isn't a climatologist and nor is this bafoon. I recommend you watch some of Potholer54s excellent videos exposing this clown as a willful liar who clearly works for some vested interest in denying climate change. There is only one group of people who's comments are worth a damn on this subject and it is climatologists, they are all but unanimous. There is global warming and man has had a significant part in it.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 If you read back far enough you'll find I never said Monckton was some kind of god, I said he's no more of a scientist than Al Gore. I'm not interested in shoot the messenger type videos they are fruitless to watch as they don't get to the real issues. Climatologists are not unanimous on this topic so I call crap on your statement. IF man is playing a part in climate change it's only a bit part and if you don't think the climatologists have a vested interest you're sadly mistaken.
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@MrXstacey I said "they are all but unanimous". There are some dissenters & not all work for oil companies, but most of the them do. However of those decanters almost none say there is no climate warming & the main point of disagreement is how much of this effect is down to human activity. Of course climatologists have a vested interest... in their science and their careers. If they publish nonsense for peer review they will be eviscerated and become lab assistants rather than project leaders.
William00048 4 months ago
@MrXstacey I didn't suggest or think for a minute that you did think he was some kind of god. If a messenger brings you a pack of lies then you really shouldn't be too interested in what he has to say. If those lies threaten your very life, then actually, you should shoot the messenger. If he is believed he will kill most of the human race. I have heard a most reputable thinker who says forget climate change, it is real, but now unstoppable, everything should be thrown into surviving it...
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 well I appreciate your moxy on this but I'm not sure you understand the implications of you being wrong. If you are right our children will burn to death, if I'm right they will be enslaved forever under a tyranny the likes of which we have not seen in our lifetime. This isn't science, this is political science and you really have to look at the history of how this all came about to get the full picture. Money talks and bullshit can be purchased cheaply at elite rates these days.
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@MrXstacey So do you have an answer there smart guy or do you want to place your fate in the hands of an overtly corrupt government? I mean that global government they are trying to form under the auspices of the UN which we don't have any political say in their actions, the EU experiment is case in point, they are kleptomaniacs ready to steal anything they can and especially your freedom. I'm willing to work with you on solutions, but governments have none. Their actions speak volumes.
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@MrXstacey Recent case in point, I don;t have all the details yet, but the recent greek debt situation involves negotiations over a massive solar project, the Helios project where 200km of solar generation equipped land is being given to bankers to appease greek debt. The Ron Paul tea party movement was co-opted by the Tea-o-cons, the Occupy movement which has many many faces is trying to ask what is the one demand of the occupy movement, don't you get it? You are being manipulated
MrXstacey 4 months ago
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William00048 4 months ago
@MrXstacey ... as an example. Having brought up in a religious family I remained interested in the truth. Science has to my satisfaction proven that the God Abraham was on about doesn't exist. Religion is very damaging to our society and again will lead to the destruction of the human race. Although Coughlan666 or what ever he is called now agrees, I don't want to be associated with him. He is vile and a liar and does my cause no good. You should feel the same about Muckton.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 I posted this video because it was an under reported side of the argument that others were not discussing. Regardless of the holes you all can pick on him personally, there is a lot of merit in many of his arguments. A judge decided that at least 9 of his many claims had merit. So I don't write him off as an idiot, I just take his position into consideration. Nothing more. Politically no one has offered a viable answer to resolving this situation once and for all. yourself included
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@MrXstacey I don't think he is an idiot either. I think him very canny. However, that x amount of words out of y may have merit are not at issue. The issue is does he present his argument by misrepresenting the science or not? It is proven that he does misrepresent the science.
Again, if this is the best that the view of nothing is wrong so stop worrying can offer, then this view has no merit. If there is better evidence that nothing is wrong, then present it.
William00048 4 months ago
@MrXstacey My friend. I am not interested in lies no matter from what side. I actually don't have a side other than reality. I deeply respect and want to know the truth. If I see respectable scientific peer reviewed evidence that hasn't been shredded by peer review I am interested in it and my view/outlook changes with it. Potholer54s videos quite clearly show that Muckton is a liar and I would not want him on my side no matter what side of the argument I was on.
William00048 4 months ago
As a disbeliever in global warming, disregard the term climate change as that is what climate historically does is change so to call what happens naturally a bad thing makes you an idiot first and foremost. that aside, global warming happens, global cooling happens and the same idiots have raised the alarm on both sides. The proof is in their actions, "we need to tax more" for what? have you got a plan to stop it? Show me the plan, if it's viable I might support it. Until then it's BS politics.
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@William00048 How many reports did you see that claimed the occupy movement are a bunch of ___ (insert stereotype here) I'm excited to see people engaging each other in political conversation inspired to change the world. I'm not against your drive, but you'll hit a pole on the path you are on. I'm not going to convince you of anything but if you have a specific claim I might be able to source the "counter document" If you're willing to listen to both sides I'll engage you in discussion
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@William00048 ... however his depressing outlook suggests that there are only 2 lifeboats on the planet. The UK & New Zealand. If you haven't already got your ticket onto these life rafts then I suggest you start getting onto those who can do something about global warming no matter how painful to our wealth. We can be much poorer than we are now, or be is starving & dead. Not a fun choice but that is what rational thinkers do. They look at the facts no matter how unpleasant then get on with it.
William00048 4 months ago
@Richard482 I think the reason Moncton added in the ten year reference is because at the time of that email there's been 10 years of cooling.. so hes simply putting the comment in better context....You're doing what all AGW debunker-debunkers do and pick on irrelevant points that make no difference to the argument...the REAL isssue is that supposed lack of warming
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@OtagoMark You can do a lot better than listen to Monckton who's a liar and a fraud. Watch the rest of Potholer54's series deunking Monckton's claims. If you want a skeptical view of climate science then listen to qualified skeptics . Here's a good start.
watch?v=FBMDwwTdMfs
"there's been 10 years of cooling"
watch?v=xvMmPtEt8dc&feature=channel_video_title
watch?v=Ai6ju28nAyk&feature=channel_video_title
Richard482 7 months ago
@Richard482 Yer I've watched his videos and I think you should watch them again with a more critical eye, Lord Monckton make logical sense to me, and keeps things in context, Potholer54 does not, that link you posted is a perfect example, there is a big difference between AGW and plain old global warming... but he does what every fanatic does and puts all skeptics in the camp of denying global warming, when in fact what they're denying is AGW...Lord Moncton say there was no climate crisis.....
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@OtagoMark "he does what every fanatic does and puts all skeptics in the camp of denying global warming" No what Potholer54 did was simply point out the scientific errors made by Monckton. If you can prove that Potholer54 is wrong in any of these cases then please be my guest. As shown in the video you watched the qualified skeptics i.e not Monckton, agree that man activities are causing the planet to warm. There argument is that we don't have to do anything about it.
Richard482 7 months ago
@Richard482 So now it's really a question of climate sensitivity. Not whether AGW is a reality or not.
Richard482 7 months ago
@Richard482 First you tell me that it wasn't Potholer54 in the video because the voices were different and now you're saying it IS him, which is it?.... Yes technically man is warming the planet... i.e if i switch an electric heater on that gets its power from a nuclear power station then yes I'm adding heat to the planet... but what Monckton is saying is that its "vanishingly small" compared to natural heating cooling. and so nothing need done about it.
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@Richard482 Name the most prominent scientific error Monckton made...not a trivial one... give us the one you found to be THE worst or most telling...I really don't want to have to sift through those badly made propagandas videos...if they were honestly doen with out the misleading strawman arguments and quotes out of context then sure but they're not
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@OtagoMark While acknowledging weather isn't climate. Look out the window. I live in Malaysia where a few degrees each way really does make a difference. 34c is repressive, 31c is quite comfortable. There is no doubt here that things are a great deal hotter than they used to be in our life times. You have clearly decided your view rather than an open mind & look at those that agree. Potholer has provided proof of Monckton's lies. Potholer doesn't just state his source, he shows you it on screen.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 Warmer temperature aren't proof of man made global warming (AGW) , why do you guy continually use that argument as proof? melting ice isnt proof of AGW either...the planet was warming BEFORE the industrial age, before all the co2 was released by man.... If anyone has a closed mind its you, you experience a 3 degree increase in temps and immediately blame man hehhe even though the total warming attributed to man over the last hundred years is less than a degree you moron
OtagoMark 4 months ago
@OtagoMark Yeah, the roof falling in on your head isn't proof of the building falling down. You denialists just decide what you want to believe then go with whom ever is spouting it. I don't want there to be global warming caused by the actions of man. Who would? I have been convinced by the evidence presented by those qualified to know. I am also convinced from historical evidence that man often destroys his environment. I think the procrastination will go on until it is all too late.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 Let me put things in perspective this way. Ron Paul was the inspiration of the Tea party and since it was co-opted by the GOP RP fans want nothing to do with the tea party. The occupy movement currently is being invaded by groups wishing to co-opt the movement. I'm for a better more sustainable world but the green movement has also been co-opted by crooks. as a denialist I mostly deny your co-opters. Not the message you are striving for.
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@MrXstacey In short, if the best proponent for your side of the argument is a vile irrefutably proven, welcome to try to sue me for liable any time, liar like Mockton, you really should be examining what side of the argument you should be on.
If you are convinced that Man Made/Assisted Global Warming is a crock of shit. Then you would be best served to find a more reputable source.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 If your best proposed solution is to pay government shills to resolve the issue then I have to ask you to do the same. Hardly scientific other than political science, you'll need a better source to convince me. And bring actual data to the party cuz everything I have witnessed in this debacle has been overtly manipulated to serve a political cause. I can't get the data to evaluate myself, they cite it has been destroyed. That's not acceptable as an argument.
MrXstacey 4 months ago
@MrXstacey Oh dear. Not the big government argument. I didn't offer any solution. I just said this guy was a proven liar. You seem to admit that he is a liar but has some true points. If you have to check other sorces to find the true facts why not just use video from their presentations? Before moving the argument onto what to do about it, it seems sensible to discover if there is an issue. It now seems clear that there is. Is it solvable? I don't know...
William00048 4 months ago
@MrXstacey I also know that no individual action will do anything. No individual government ((shills or otherwise) but it seems to me the people clouding the issue are big pollution companies) aren't big enough. It will take a world wide concerted effort. Is this achievable in real politic? Probably not. Sometimes it sucks to be right.
By the way, if you don't like your govt sort it out. No society is possible without govt. The biggest killer isn't tyrants its anarchy. I think we're done.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 The roof falling in on my head isnt proof someone caused it to fall, its proof that the roof is falling down Back to melting ICE, if ice melts it doesn proved that man is the cause...to suggest it does is silly in the extreme. Ice was melting long before the industrial age... why deny that? you seem to see only the fact that fit your point of view
OtagoMark 4 months ago
@OtagoMark When nuclear armed Pakistan starts to starve they will I am sure demand food from other countries on threat of launching. The can not have what others don't have and I am sure they will launch because desperate people do desperate things. All out problems come from overpopulation. The religion addled US answer is to do all it can to promote as many children being born as possible.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 So I say melting ice isnt proof of AGW ad you come back with mad Indians with nukes and the US must have more children to combat nukes?? explain that to me? hehhehhehhee
OtagoMark 4 months ago
@OtagoMark Decide what lifestyle you want then work towards what world population this is sustainable for. For the US way of life, with abominations like the Humvee, the figure is 1.5 Billion as we breach 7 Billion. Does the US want to change it's life style? No. Does it want to help reduce in as humane a way possible to 1.5 Billion? No the opposite. If man doesn't do it for itself, nature will & wont magically stop when we reach the appropriate level. Lunatics like you will kill us all.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 Why should it? its not my fault or the U.S's that there are poor countries...its not my fault that some bloke down the road is out of work... should I start starving myself because some guy in africa is starving? life in africa's no worse than it was 100,000 years ago... why should My country hold itself back and wait for the poorest human to catch up? lunatics like me?? I think we should use our wealth to combat climate change not chase shadows
OtagoMark 4 months ago
@Richard482 Lord Moncton said there was no climate crisis.....that not the same as denying climate change.. so this guy is basically using strawman arguments to fool weak minded fools like you...
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@OtagoMark And after watching Potholer54's videos on Moncktons claims you still think he's worth listening to? :)
Richard482 7 months ago
@Richard482 Yes Potholers54, He's either got extremely bad logic skills or hes diliberately trying to mislead guys like you with by taking statements out of context and using strawman arguments...In that link you gave me he lists monckton and being a global warming deniers and play audio of monckton denying ,not global warming, but that there was a global crisis...which is different!! not the same!! and he lumps AGW deniers in with Global warming deniers to make it easier to attack them
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@OtagoMark "Lord Monckton make logical sense to me, and keeps things in context," Are you kidding? There were 21 different mistakes made by Monckton in his slideshow case. Why not take up Potholer54 challenge and find something that Monckton got right?
"In that link you gave me he lists monckton and being a global warming deniers "
I hope by he you wasn't refering to Potholer54 because he didn't make that video. Didn't you notice the voices were different?
Richard482 7 months ago
@Richard482 Isn't the content of the video you posted what was relevant? and not the poster??I've I've mistake the poster with the narrator of the video it matters little to what I was saying...if potholer54 agrees with that video then his logic is as fucked up as that of the narrator
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@Richard482 Con-men often do make logical sense. If they didn't they would starve. When he states a source, does his statement quote or at least represent that source accurately? Potholer54 has demonstrated that he simply states a reputable source then says what he wants or he quotes people who aren't qualified to comment anyway. If you have watched Potholer54 videos on this then there are none so blind as those who refuse to see so don't bother answering.
William00048 4 months ago
@William00048 I think you've got me wrong. I agree with you that Monckton is a fraud, a liar and that Potholer54 did a great job demostrating this in his vids.
Richard482 4 months ago
@Richard482 Sorry, must have seen some denialist pinging you & hit you instead. People seem happier to believe they can keep having a party without getting a hang over. They just don't want to hear those trained to research & interpret data. Rather hear oil company puppets saying all's well. It all comes down to too many people on a finite world. Bet Monckton equivalents on Easter Island said there will always be enough trees to make fishing boats right until there weren't & they all starved.
William00048 4 months ago
@Richard482 I love you government shills coming on youtube to discredit people. Amusing
xingwei12 7 months ago
@xingwei12 What's wrong with debunking Moncktons claims when they are incorrect. Watch the whole series starting with this vid (5 in total) and tell me if you still think Monckton is a reliable source of information.
watch?v=fbW-aHvjOgM&feature=channel_video_title
Richard482 7 months ago
@Richard482 what so u actually believe in global warming, we are heading into an ice age, anyone who thinks govts putting a price on carbon is a good thing is seriously misinformed and has no clue of the lies and deceptions the Oligarchy is capable of.
SovereignBeing 4 months ago
@SovereignBeing "we are heading into an ice age" And yet every piece of evidence we have tells us the opposite.
Richard482 4 months ago
@Richard482 well i dont know what rubbish you have been reading but its wrong.. the earth is cooling as we more further from the sun. we also have more volcanic activity and this is the same scenario that caused the last ice age. learn the truth and stop spreading your disinfo govt propaganda..
SovereignBeing 4 months ago
@SovereignBeing Judging from your username and your "govt propaganda" comment I think that the anthropogenic global warming theory goes against your personal and political beliefs. That's fine but it aint science.
Richard482 4 months ago
@SovereignBeing As for the last ice age, look up Milankovitch factors and cycles. If you want to learn the science on the subject of global warming then put your personal beliefs to one side and watch the vids by the following users:
FreshAirScentOfPine
watch?v=QL3ED6aXrks&feature=related
Potholer54
watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo
Drkstrong:
watch?v=NX6OnGEEphw&feature=channel_video_title
And Greenman3610:
watch?v=l0JsdSDa_bM&feature=channel_video_title
Richard482 4 months ago
I’d like to see Gore actually take this effort and preach to the people who are actually responsible for the population explosion — Non-whites. They breed like bunnies than beg for handouts, food, clothing, education, medicine. You can count the number of seconds on one hand that he keeps caring about overpopulation once someone starts screaming racism.
No, what Gore means here is that us white people are screwing up the world by having “too many” children.
KumarZimmerman08 8 months ago
Gore has been exposed as a fraud by many other sources. not just this guy. thousands of experts have rejected this nonsense
lunabranwen 10 months ago
Looks like the Global Warming taliban will do anything they can to uphold their deity, Global Warming. LOL
Lookup ~ watch?v=Jxi-OlkmxZ4&feature=re¬lated at 3.09 is the Perito Moreno large as life.
For corroboration Google ~ Perito Moreno Glacier Patagonia Argentina Luca Galuzzi 2005.JPG virtually the same camera position and proof positive
DaveGibbagglers 10 months ago
al gore is a detriment to his own cause even GCSE student knows that you cannot state a causal relationship from a single corrolation. and the thing about tuvalu, reading from Edexcel AS geography i can report that "in 2001, New Zealand agered to accept 75 tuvaluans per year as environmental refugees, possibly until 2050. nothing about an evaccuation. i am especially annoyed because as a student i was shown al gores video and many in my class will have taken on what he said as fact.
extreeemsportguy 10 months ago
the video is all about the.. impact of environment ..... right?..
russelvien 1 year ago
If you google "politically incorrect glacier" they say this Perito Moreno glacier was used in Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" propaganda and said it was receding when in truth its growing. Liars
Google
"Our glaciers are growing, not melting
More falsehoods from Al Gore"
DaveGibbagglers 1 year ago
Perito Moreno the glacier al gore used in his carboneer propaganda flix an inconvenient truth as receding when its growing. Thats a important glacier as al gore said. Growing glaciers because of global warming, lol
DaveGibbagglers 1 year ago
@DaveGibbagglers I just watched 'An Inconvenient Truth' for the first time. The Perito Moreno glacier was not mentioned.
At all..
There are two photos of an unnamed glacier in Argentina, but it is clearly not Perito Moreno.
You are doing great work in showing people how deceitful global warming deniers are.
Please keep it up.
cristop5 1 year ago
@cristop5 What a dumb shit you are mr plant doctor. I'm going to make sure I save your stupid spam post. I'll be sure and remind everyone of the "PhD" who acts like a spoiled child caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Do you also leap over buildings in a single bound? In your mind, you can be anything you want, including a plant doctor, lol, but your your mask got ripped off for all to see the truth.
PhD, LOL.
DaveGibbagglers 1 year ago
@DaveGibbagglers What matters here is that you are spreading a lie. Anyone can take a few minutes to compare the photos in Gore's movie with photos & tourist postcards of the famous Upsala glacier. They will immediately see that the photos in 'An Inconvenient Truth' are of the Upsala glacier - and not the Perito Moreno glacier as you have been spamming all over youtube.
An honest man would retract his error. Instead you are blustering because you don't like being exposed as the liar you are.
cristop5 1 year ago
@cristop5
Yes, ice does have this irritating habit of melting from time to time. Thank God. And the Sun.
But why anybody should be so fixated on the idea that the melting is NECESSARILY caused by naughty lightbulbs and SUVs is a complete mystery to me.
As is the obviously emotional NEED that certain people have to believe in all this bullshit.
I mean, why do they NEVER seem to be PLEASED when presented with evidence that the Alarmists have (possibly) got it wrong ?
Strange !
marvinc999 1 year ago
@marvinc999 If you seriously don't understand the science that has brought about a clear consensus among climatologists that man made GHGs have emerged as the prime driver of global warming over the last several decades, this video may help:
/watch?v=5Pjbykd2ywU
After that, if you think something else is causing the warming, what is it? Solar irradiance has been declining, so that doesn't explain it. Anyway, watch the video and if you then have an alternative hypothesis to GHGs, lets hear it.
cristop5 1 year ago
@cristop5
OK - just two points;
1) WHAT 'warming' ? Global temperatures have been mostly either static or in decline since 1995/1998.
2) How many GHGs were around in Chaucer's day - when temperatures in England were an estimated 2 to 4 degrees warner than now ?
Of course the Sun is the MAIN driver !
Sorry, but the Alarmists' fox has been well and truly shot - and no amount of data-fiddling or teenage hysteria is going to revive it.
Enough, already.......
Like Truth.
marvinc999 1 year ago
@marvinc999 1) WHAT 'warming' ? If you look at any global temperature database, they all show warming. If you have MS Excel here are three videos to talk you through a quick analysis. Have a go yourself.
a). CRU database watch?v=OS44qirIOcU
b). NASA database watch?v=8Q97zVngPGU
c). UAH satellite data watch?v=I3q3zs0EVDU
2) How many GHGs were around in Chaucer's day. The MWP was not global & warmer than now.
Read this:
ht tp://ww w.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/shared/articles/MannetalScience09.pdf
cristop5 1 year ago
@marvinc999 3) Of course the Sun is the MAIN driver !
The sun has matched temperatures pretty well for the last 1150 years, BUT over the last 30-40 years solar irradiance has waned while temperatures have risen. For this reason recent warming cannot be attributed to the sun. Read this:
ht tp://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.o rg/content/464/2094/1387.abstract
or this:
ht tp://adsabs.harvard.ed u/abs/2009JGRD..11414101B
or this
ht tp://pubs.giss.nasa.g ov/docs/2008/2008_Lean_Rind.pdf
cristop5 1 year ago
@cristop5
One other thing:
Please don't make assumptions about my 'not understanding the science' - merely because I disagree with the fatuous AGW hypothesis.
Why not bring THAT charge against Lindzen, Carter, Akosofu, Morner et al - to say nothing of the 31 THOUSAND scientists who signed the Manhattan Declaration ?
THEY don't falsify data - the Alarmists do.
THEY don't suppress facts - the Alarmists do.
And there was also 'consensus' among the Nazi Race Scientists.
So ?
marvinc999 1 year ago
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cristop5 1 year ago
This guy is tied to oil. Research it... It's fucking disturbing that people are buying this crap. He lies like child. Sickening...
toadston 1 year ago
@toadston and Al Gore doesn't have ties to oil? Stop attacking the messenger and present your argument based on the facts for or against the message. If you can't go research that.
MrXstacey 1 year ago 4
@MrXstacey Bravo Sir...well put.
U2XM202 1 year ago
@MrXstacey Okay. I'll tell you the lies. First he lies about CO2 causing warming in the past in ice ages, it is well know that major ice ages are caused by Milankovitch cycles. And apparently he believes, from his argument, that the release of CO2 into the atmosphere via fossil fuel use is natural. Neither Gore or Monkton are scientists and have no training as scientists. And his claim that greenland has been growing is false. and so on...
WaxItYourself 1 year ago
@toadston
He's REALLY got you worried, hasn't he ?
I imagine all those journals and studies he cited were forgeries, too.
As to Big Oil (actually, Big Energy would be a better term) - just WHO do you imagine has been funding the Phony Green Agenda ?
Dolphins, penguins, polar bears - and little old ladies with collection tins ?
Next time someone throws a stick and says "Fetch !", try asking a simple question of the stick-thrower.
Such as "Why ?"
marvinc999 1 year ago
@toadston
"He lies like child."
And YOU write like one !
The screams of the Alarmists - and their dimwitted little Youtuber camp-followers - are merely those of people getting out of their depth.
And when you offer them help and guidance, all they do is scream even more loudly.
Astonishing, really.
No wonder our Poltical Masters despise the People !
marvinc999 1 year ago
Oh my! Documentary film or a short presentation is not science. Both have generalisations that simply are too broad or unspesific to be true (or false). For example neither tells the timescale of sea level rise.
In best case claims and statements can be based on science. And presented without intentional bias.
johan3248 1 year ago
I see comments on here arguing over what certain organizations say vs others and I think if people(many seem to get it-pretty well anyway) really knew who runs this world and how it is run, the global warming agenda would be self evident and if everyone knew what is planned and what they push, the only regular people left who would be promoting this bull, would be low-level psychopaths, unlike those at the top, who are full fledged psychopaths.
metalways 1 year ago
@metalways
Thank God for a little Common Sense !
A RARE thing on Youtube, it seems.
Too many people just don't understand the Psychology of Power.
A clever Salesman makes the customer believe that the decision to buy the product was the customer's alone.
Similarly, a clever 'Politician' (not a mere puppet like Obama or Cameron) manipulates people without their knowing that they ARE being manipulated.
Like sheep.
Never mind the scientists - just study Derren Brown !
marvinc999 1 year ago
@marvinc999 "A clever Salesman makes the customer believe that the decision to buy the product was the customer's alone."
How true.
/watch?v=QRbyvxr3Ib8
cristop5 1 year ago
Never heard of Richard or Fred so you can't claim my ideas come from there. Incidentally, BP was a major funder of the university of east anglia, the majority was government funding within UN influenced nations. Money our governments spend on our behalf to tell us we're gonna die based on what we exhale. I'd like to know the truth myself but the data and science have become so politically skewed that the truth no longer exists.
MrXstacey 1 year ago 2
Unbelievable how many gullible people follow charlatan Christopher Monckton, also at this forum. This guy isn't even a scientist, and far away from being a climate expert.
- At the warming following the last Ice Age, CO2 lags temperature because greenhouse gases didn't trigger the warming, but a change in the Earth's orbit. It doesn't disprove the fact that CO'2 can trigger a GW at all.
This is basic knowledge for climate experts - didn't Monck know that or did he ignore it intentionally?
Tervinger 1 year ago
@Tervinger I believe he is countering Al Gore's claims. Even if I took your claim as Gospel I would still argue that AL Gore was equally misleading. I don't believe at any point he stated he was a scientist. Only that he studies the data of those that produce it. I also think it's questionable as to what constitutes a climate expert. In AL Gore's circles they are political bodies, not scientific ones. UN, IPCC, EPA, etc are political bodies. Who funded the researchers? I find it questionable.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey Monckton loves to play the expert. He was introduced as 'former scientific advisor of Margaret Thatcher' (he never was), and he never rejected to be called that. He also uses titles and symbols (one that looks like the seal of the British parliament, to suggest seriosity and 'officialness' to his naive audience)
What constitutes a (serious!) climate expert: His scientific work of course, like every other scientist. He has to do research and publish papers in peer-reviewed journals.
Tervinger 1 year ago
@MrXstacey The researchers in climate science are usually funded like all other scientists. It also depends on the particular country. Many work at universities and institutes which have a huge variety of different natural sciences.
BTW, a disproportionately high number of the few remaining skeptics in climate science work for oil and energy companies (for example, Richard Lindzen who is an advisor for Exxon Mobil, or Fred Singer who is/was consultant for numerous companies).
Tervinger 1 year ago
@Tervinger a high number of the few remaining sceptics? the number is increasing by the day. work for oil companies? you have your facts completely upside down. you talk of peer-reviewed journals and know nothing about who funds them, who can get articles published and who can't, etc. You could'nt be more wrong if you tried. Frig man, they spell out their agenda in many books, why don't you read some of them instead of spouting television "facts".
metalways 1 year ago
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Tervinger 1 year ago
@metalways Your claims are ridiculous. I don't need any 'television facts'. Unlike you, I have all my knowledge on topic from real scientific research.
The number of skeptics (I speak of real climate scientists) is definitely not increasing, simply because all skeptic arguments have been rebutted, while the evidence for AGW becomes more and more.
You will not be able to present a single skeptic argument that could not be easily disproven. Try it.
Tervinger 1 year ago
@Tervinger Just because you say something over and over, does'nt make it true. This is stupid so I will only say that I am sure you can find someone to argue with, maybe one of 30,000 scientists(over 9,000 of which are phd's) who signed a petition saying Gore's movie is bunk. I guess you could get 2,500(opps, the IPCC has less members now), to agree with you, most of whom are bureaucrats btw. I acknowledge bigger numbers on either side proves nothing, does'nt make it true, I am making a point
metalways 1 year ago
@metalways All I say is based on results of scientific research ONLY, and I never state merely my personal opinion. I always back up my comments on certain aspects with references and I don't need to repeat something to make it more true. If you think otherwise, I will give you the full names of the references on demand, any time.
Also, I don't care for Al Gore's opinion or that of the IPCC, or the opinion of politicians, environmentalists, etc.
Tervinger 1 year ago
@metalways You refer to the Oregon (OISM) Petition, alright.
1. That petition - signed by ~31,000 scientists - merely represents 0.3% of all science graduates. It is not representative for science at all.
2. Only a few scientists (about 40 , that makes ~0.13%) of those who have signed the petition are scientists who have specialised in climate science. Even less do actually research on the climate, publishing papers on topic.
As a reference, I name the petition itself.
Tervinger 1 year ago
@Tervinger that your side likes to use the consensus argument, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are liars and this is an agenda (agenda 21 to be more precise). Either that, or they are all insane, but really it's an agenda. They know what they are doing, like Gore knew when he bought a mansion next to the water that sea levels are'nt going to rise like he tells everyone, or he never would have bought it. Read the first global revolution and then tell me it's not an agenda.
metalways 1 year ago
@metalways My side? The only 'side' I've chosen is that of serious science. I don't care for Al Gore or political opinion, not even for the IPCC.
The consensus is not an argument to prove AGW. But it reflects that there is an overwhelming number of evidence for it, supported by very most experts.
(Ref.:
"Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change", Doran, 2009;
"Expert credibility in climate change", Anderegg, 2010;
"The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change", Oreskes, 2004)
Tervinger 1 year ago
@Tervinger
If there's one single ounce of compelling evidence that manmade CO2 'causes' Global Warming, which isn't refuted by a ton of real-world counter-evidence, then kindly reveal it.
To Monckton.
Those who assert that A causes B bear the onus of proof.
It is NOT for the dissentients to prove that A may NOT cause B, but to test the validity of the evidence upon which the claim is made. As Monckton does brilliantly.
It's that simple (but the simple-minded don't get it).
marvinc999 1 year ago
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@marvinc999 "If there's one single ounce of compelling evidence that manmade CO2 'causes' Global Warming, which isn't refuted by a ton of real-world counter-evidence, then kindly reveal it."
Why?
And what counter evidence?
Tervinger 1 year ago
i saw this guy last night on alex jones!!! god bless ya man
127miles 1 year ago
Does the sound lag halfway through or is my pc?
GeneralGandhi 1 year ago
@GeneralGandhi the sound and video do become a little out of sync it's not just you.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
Hypacrytical? Let's talk about it for a minute! a lady say's to you while your enjoying a smoke,"SECOUND HAND SMOKE KILLS! YOU SHOULD PUT THAT OUT!" Then she gets into a Huge SUV and drives off! "WTF? Im going to die faster sucking in her exhaust fumes than she is smelling my smoke you say!
shazizz 1 year ago
The same people spreading the Climate Change/ Global warming lie! Use everything they complain about and thier only solution is to CHARGE YOU TAXES JUST TO BREATH? AND COWS TO FART OR BURP? Are you kidding me??? Al Gore??? Mansion/Jet/Limousine Why not a Grass Hut and Take a Walk?
shazizz 1 year ago
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Hypacrytical? Let's talk about it for a minute! a lady say's to you while your enjoying a smoke,"SECOUND HAND SMOKE KILLS! YOU SHOULD PUT THAT OUT!" Then she gets into a Huge SUV and drives off! "WTF? Im going to die faster sucking in her exhaust fumes than she is smelling my smoke you say!
shazizz 1 year ago
It's Time to Say No to World Government
AnonymousWhitePerson 1 year ago
Interresting, but kind of missing the point. As of now (+ or - 5 years) our oil extraction rates are decreasing. So in the near future our carbon emissions will also decease, whether we like it or not. I'm not saying that global warming is a lie, but politions use global warming is a nice way of getting us to prepare for less oil consumption. I haven't watched the whole video, so apologies if Monckton does make this point.
yarco8000 1 year ago
@yarco8000 I agree with you to a point. I think the hidden ajenda behind the global warming scare may be to move us away from such a huge dependancy on Oil, either foreign or domestic. I think they are really affraid that one day soon, China or Russia will come after us for the Alaskan oil which we don't want to disturb. Of coarse, there's LOTS of debate on just how much oil is really left under arabian soil. The opinions vary wildly.
Nash1a 1 year ago
What a wierd time we live in... I must confess that as a Star Trek fan, I kinda like the idea of a world government.. But for the life of me, I can't imagine how we could EVER be under one flag with countries like Pakistan and so on. No facebook? That's sacrilige!
Nash1a 1 year ago
@Nash1a that's the issue at heart, if we were to have a one world govt. would you want it run by those who want to poison/ impoverish / demean / misrepresent your values / insert others here... Who gets to decide how you and everyone on this planet lives? remember Logan's Run? On the facebook thing, Muslims believe Mohammed should not be visualized and they are offended by such things, if I pissed on a crucifix Christians would be equally upset, though neither really hurts anyone.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey I'm glad you brought that up. In my faith, I may not like what a muslim might choose to do to a crusifix, but that doesn't affect my faith. Why would it? I don't understand why a muslim should get all bent into rage if I don't respect his beliefs. HE SHOULDNT EXPECT ME TO. His beliefs should only pertain to him and his family.
Nash1a 1 year ago
@Nash1a to borrow from a George Carlin quote, leave the symbols to the symbol minded.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey There's a disturbing new study out that reveals over 91% of all new studies... are disturbing. When I wrote that, it was intended as a joke but in todays 'climate' of study for profit, its had a sad ring of truth. What has happened to science all of a sudden, that its science for profit or not at all?
Nash1a 1 year ago 2
@Nash1a I THINK THIS SAYS IT ALL ABOUT THE MUSLIM RELIGION:
"When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters." (Sura 47:4).
They don't give a shit about your religion...just that you AREN'T Muslim.
bjusticeforever 1 year ago
this guy is a douche he is trying to disregard al gore by praying of the stupidity of his audience. at around 5:45 he asks if anyone tried to melt ice at -7.1 C. OF COARSE U CANT MELT ICE AT -7.1 C....WHEN YOU'RE AT HOME AT NORMAL ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE but at that high there is much less atmospheric pressure at it can melt at that temperature. INFACT AT THAT ALTITUDE YOU CAN BOIL WATER WAY BELOW a 100 degrees. SO WHY DONT YOU ADD THAT TO MONCKTON F***ING ERRORS
awesomeguydumb 1 year ago
@awesomeguydumb Ok, so he made a mistake. That still doesn't defeat the main premise: that global climate change is NORMAL. I always thought people undertsood that the only thing you can bank on is change. This notion that the earth's temp is so fragile that if it should just change by a degree or so, we'er all dead - that idea is BOGUS.
Nash1a 1 year ago
An inconvenient tax will soon be going to an inconvenient WORLD organization & god knows what they will really spend it on....probably devices to kill us off after they have robbed us blind.
999Atwood 1 year ago 7
@999Atwood best summation of the events in question i have read all day, there is more truth in this statement than in the whole global warming/whining debacle.
jadedforlyfe 1 year ago
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WHAT COOLING?
March was the HOTTEST March in the UAH 32 year satellite record.
UAH (Univ. of Alabama, Huntsville) is run by Dr. Christy, the well known AGW denier.
Global temperatures for February = 2nd WARMEST February in 32 years.
Global Temperatures for JANUARY = the HOTTEST January for UAH in 32 years.
LOL!!!
HOT OFF THE PRESS - 4/10/10
See the hilarious, delightful YouTube from greenman3610
Debunking LORD MONCKTON Part 1
/watch?v=JfA1LpiYk2o
goog2k 1 year ago
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A real INCONVENIENT TRUTH to Gore & his Goldman Sachs partners & AGW Cult
Here's a great expose of what the GATT expansion to the WTO (orchestrated by Clinton/Gore) has produced in terms of environmental damage by moving manufacturing in the West that had Environmental laws to pollute with impunity in the Socialists/Limousine Liberals current favorite failed utopia, China
Graphic pictures of the environmental horrors
chinahush(dot)com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china
Thisawareness 1 year ago
This guy is brilliant!
FlashmoreGash 2 years ago
So we're not going to die?... Whew I was getting worried there.
OrangeOceanOctopus 2 years ago 5
It;s not about dying or surviving but about TAX ON CARBON EMISSION. ( which would include on almost everything)
TheWayshower1982 2 years ago 4
@TheWayshower1982 the aim of the tax is to prepare the future cost of depleted fossil fuels.
A tax is recycled in the economy. It is spent on jobs, on chosen jobs.
The inevitable rise of the price of rare fossil fuels will not be chosen, and there is no negociating with it.
bojnin 1 year ago
Al Gore, is not a clever liar he's a Bliderburg group stooge. There are more holes in his bullshit agenda than the 9/11 official story. He has made more money out of the fear generated by global warming than anyone else. Look up his company Kleiner Perkins...it's all about the money and a One World Government. I'm a committed environmentalist and he almost fooled me... Not any more, wake up World we are being hoodwinked
Ctemple2012 2 years ago 3
@Ctemple2012 Monchtkin is not a clever liar either if you actually look and see what he is actually saying.
MusicRich123 1 year ago
Al Gore was one of the architects of two of the most anti-American, anti-human rights, & anti-environmental legislation in the history of the United States. He was in office when NAFTA & GATT expansion to the WTO happened.
Multiple tens of millions of jobs that paid good wages were shipped to Al Gore's Marxist friends in China & the third world so that corporations who greased Gore's pockets could exploit the Environment & Human Rights & stuff their fat pockets with money
Treason
Thisawareness 2 years ago 2
nobody seems to realize the simple fact that even if the sea was to raise by 210 feet (all ice melting in the world) only humans would be greatly impacted,
flora and fauna would continue so would we... guess what knobs, probably no the best idea to gather together and jiggle infront of the ocean as it was,
screw what looks good surviving is better, let nature take its course, take your licks and get on with life, we suck get over it we are going to have to pay in some way for our audacity
Fulcanelliii 2 years ago
An avalanche of details and scarcely a grain of truth.
mongoose000 2 years ago
Thank God for Climategate. The cracks in the wall have appeared. Deluge next!
Brasil1980rob 2 years ago 12
Lord Monckton kicks ass!
bofors7715 2 years ago 12
Those who know this GW charade is a fraud, all you have to do is explain to people that besides the nut job Al Gore being involved (the Al Gore who helped bring us the economically & environmentally destructive NAFTA, GATT, & WTO)
just tell people they have a Railroad Engineer in charge of the IPCC
How many IPCC members are also Lionel train collectors, or are model railroaders like their chief Choo Choo Charlie?
Thisawareness 2 years ago 5
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You guys are all idiots. True, al gore was wrong about many things but about global warming but so is this guy. You idiots think that al gore is just spitting propaganda and paranoia but this guy skews the truth even more. His al gore #11 error was straight up stupid. "has anyone tried to melt water at minus 7 degrees Cecilius" what a joke. Water evaporates at every temperature; temperature only determines the rate of evaporation. What a terrible point appealing to idiots who don't know shit.
marinqf 2 years ago
@marinqf When a rabbit or deer eats grass, they crap it out in the form of little turd pellets, but when a cow eats grass it produces a large pile of crap with no particular shape. Why do you think that is?
dlucas90 2 years ago
I don't actually know. Feel like enlightening me?
marinqf 2 years ago
I guess you don't know much about sh!t yourself! Ba dump bump
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
Ha ha thats actually really funny. At first I had no idea why you were asking me that question but now it all makes sense.
marinqf 2 years ago 2
@Marinqf
He had a minor slip of the tounge, and corrected himself immediately. He meant ICE. Not water. Of course people will jump on any slip of the tounge he makes
melissa8998 2 years ago
It could have been just a slip of the tongue. Still the way he made the remark was in such a mocking tone and he was completely wrong, which made me heated. I still think that many of this guys point are very incorrect but that doesn't make him and everyone here who agrees with him an idiot.
marinqf 2 years ago
@melissa8998 More so on the denialists side.
MusicRich123 1 year ago
Green Freaks are Nature Nazis indee