The future of the Libertarian Party and the Libertarian Movement, is to recruit Classical Liberals from the Democratic Party. Who are fed up with the socialists in the Democratic Party. And recruit Classical Conservatives from the Republican Party. Who are fed up with the theocrats and Neoconservatives in the Republican Party. And there are a lot of these people in both parties who are young. And are looking at Ron Paul for President.
I agree we should get rid of we should get rid of the public unions which run the teachers. The only one that would have a reason to revive the libertarian party is Ron Paul. He won't do it. He should join his son.
@joshua1auhsoj begone troll with the filthy mouth. Save it for in your house. Not that I like Barr voting record I just don't think your mouth belongs here or anywhere else I go.
Root seems like a sales man. I mean, he preaches some right answers, but I dont think he knows how to apply them, and I dont think he is completley sold on those beliefs.
Reason.. very disappointing.. they have a round table about the future of the Libertarian party and they have two Republicans(Barr and Root) in there... disguising.
Wheres Meyers, where is Badnarik? Where are the true Libertarians in place of these two?
I hope everyone votes for LIBERTY on November 2nd -- and ever afterward! Vote for liberty, justice, and individual rights! Vote for capitalism and libertarianism! Do NOT vote for evil Welfare Statism via the lowlife, nitwit Republicans or Democrats!!
@TylerHinds He is liberal. He's a left libertarian. I don't know how you can like Bob Barr over Mike Gravel. Mike Gravel helped Daniel Eisenberg release the Pentagon Papers. Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act. Ron Paul and Mike Gravel are both true libertarians, on different sides of the spectrum but principled and honest.
The guy to the right said the Republican party was taken back by small government advocates in the 80s and 90s? I must have missed that. Bob Barr was a fascist neo-con until last year, Allen Root is a professional gambler nutcase, the other two guys are no namers. Mike Gravel is the only guy there with any credibility. The LP is run by used car salesman, and it hurts to say that being 100% libertarian
@BikiniBabe1985 Wasn't fascism like national SOCIALISM? I keep hearing it is something of the right but when I look at the people on the left I see the same totalitarians walking around that paraded in Germany. Its the same anti-capitalist rants and assumption of a collective will that everyone is suppose to have. Conservatives are the least fascist people on the earth since most of them are really politically innert.
What? Libertarians are no closer to Republicans than they are to Democrats, go look at a Nolan Chart. The Constitution Party is the Republican 'farm party' you're thinking of.
well, the department of education does have a lot of shortcomings, but whats the alternative? send them to an expensive private school that many families cannot afford, have them homeschooled by mom(so now she can't work if she wants too) and have them taught in biblical literalism?
I may consider myself libertarian but I don't want our nation to have to suffer that, our country will fall behind the rest. So unless the minds of every single American opens their mind to science over night, NO.
The idea behind the Libertarian rejection of the DoE is that since its inception, public schools have gotten worse. It intervenes nationally and forces kids to learn the "nationally acceptable" version of events.
Education should be handled locally, even if publicly - it increases the rate of adoption of innovation if nothing else.
Homeschooled children, by the way, consistently outperform publicly educated children in standardized testing.
The Constitution and the Libertarian Party should merge to form the Constitutional Libertarian Party. It's the only way either party will ever get anywhere, in Washington D.C. or in the separate states.
I know they have slightly different positions on certain issues, but so do those within the Republican and Democratic parties- yet they manage to get along and enjoy great success.
Unite to gain the power we need to promote constitutional liberty!
If you think any of these retards have any realistic fixes for anything then you are the joke.
I know most of this stuff is way over your head and thats what the Libertarian party counts on. They try to get you worked up about things you know little about.
dont be so afraid of your own freedoms. Although I do appreciate you insulting my IQ while not even gracing me with a single example of why these "fixes" will fail. As I remember American history, our country has profited most when It's President's views aligned with those of the libertarian party. The American Revolution, The Industrial Revolution, The Economy through the 80's and most of the 90's.......Youre welcome.
The only thing libertarianism wants to "fix" is the size of government. The whole idea is lazy people should be allowed to be lazy, people should be allowed to fail, people should be allowed to make their own choices. There's no "fix", just big government and a government concerned only with law and defence.
We can "fix" everything else out ourselves. We don't need government for ANY of it.
Heaven forbid Ron Paul leaves you to decide your own fate. I guess you would rather have the federal government be progressive and decide what you will or will not do. Actually it sounds like youre afraid of your own freedom.
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I think what he meant to say was that World War I was a major cause of World War II in Europe, as well as the Palestine/Israel conflicts, and to a lesser degree many other Middle Eastern wars. And World War II led to the Cold War, which led to US support for Third World dictators, which led to intense hatred of the United States in many countries, and the Cold War also led to the Taliban and everything that resulted from that. So basically, World War I led to most major wars in the time since.
Seriously, lol. That was a hilariously retarded comment. Let's throw out all IR Theory and use Gravel's theory. So basically all war started from a fist fight between two neanderthals. lol
The two party system have had their chance time and again, but they blew it, the Country is broken, so this time I'm going to vote a new party - Bob Barr.
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People, please vote for McCain, put up with him for four years or however long it takes for the Libertarian Party to nominate an acceptable candidate.
Because Obama would totally ruin our economy. By the way, I'm sorry I encouraged people to vote for McCain. My fear of an Obama America got the best of me. I decided to support Bob Barr after a.) reading Matt Welch's essay in the April? 2007 issue of Reason (available on their website) and seeing Bob Barr's "Time For Liberty" video. My excuse is that I work in New Orleans where liberals have had their way for decades and I have a good feeling that Obama would turn the U.S. into New Orleans.
DoctorQuirk, the way to strengthen the Lib party is to vote for it now, and this will accomplish 2 things:
1) If everybody who believed Lib were to vote Lib, then whichever jerkoff who gets elected will be forced to take the concerns of the Lib party more seriously.
2) If people see the Lib party increase in size, then in the next election they will realize that it is possible for a 3rd party to muscle its way up and they will be more inclined to vote for it because they see that it has promise.
I took back what I said about voting for McCain a long time ago if you had bothered to look. Forgive me for not immediately supporting Barr. This is the guy who said in 1999 that if the Ten Commandments had been posted in Columbine High School that the massacre there wouldn't have taken place. Being a committed atheist, I don't easily forgive Congressmen from the Bible Belt who want the Ten Commandments posted everywhere. However, I have reason to believe that Barr has changed ... enough.
Libertarians are just ashamed-republicans-in-hiding with an extra dose of greed thrown into the mix.
Do us all a favor and shut the fuck up & go hide in your US Flag jammies & suck on your independent thumb while dreaming of fiscal responsibility while we set to work fixing all the damage that your fiscal responsibility nutjob ideology about has done to turn our country into a Hellish mess of uncared for sick children, ruined airlines & public transit systems, dead factories & falling bridges.
What does Libertarian fiscal ideology have to do with sick children, ruined airlines and public transit? If people would discuss ideas instead of just turning red, pointing fingers, and screaming names at each other maybe we could actually come to some sort of reasonable resolution on issues.
That Wayne Allen Root guy seems like a real douchebag. He's also a "ron paul Republican" (libertarian on foreign policy and economics but a strict conservative on social policy). Don't get me wrong: I love Ron Paul, but his religious conservatism frightens me. If I were a Libertarian, I'd be for limited economic deregulation and bureaucracy-crashing as well as social libertarianism. I'm kind of ashamed that the libertarian movement in the US has been hijacked by right-libertarians.
Left-libertarians need to regain power in the party and bring back that balance it had when it started. Michael badnarik was ok on social libertarianism, but Bobb Barr is a former conservative Republican. Ron Paul was conservative on social issues and didn't even believe in the separation of church n state. I'm sure Harry Browne was essentially more of a right-lib as well. We need more Ed Clarks and less Bob Barr's in the LP.
Conservative on social issues - because he doesn't think it should be legal to murder an unborn child? The state's few legitimate duties are to protect our life, liberty, and property, last time I checked that fell under the category of life. Why should I not be able to pray in school? You can read a book if you want while I pray for the 5 minute allotted time. This shouldn't even be an issue because public education shouldn't exist though.
How are we nazis for supporting legalization of prostitution and gambling truthout911? The Nazis would be on your side, I hope you realize that. Bob Barr isn't perfect his record is as checkered as my floor tiles. But we need to create some unity in the LP, we're seen as a bunch of anarchist with no objective. If you want to American people to support this third party,we need to start acting like one.
No libertarian is going to have a chance of winning the presidency at least in the near future so all that matters is that these principles are advanced, which is what they're going to do.
"lets get one state free and be a sanctuary for people who wish to escape tyranny"
I agree that we should promote liberty at the local level but before we can do that we need to get the federal government out of the way. And to everyone who is skeptical of Barr and Root about whether or not they're serious about denouncing they're neoconservative ways
That one state would be a huge target for state attacks. I do, however, believe it would be more prosperous than a dispersed movement, When Economies have a means of easy access and transport they're much more stable.
I do not now if I like the Barr/Root ticket. I may appeal to more people but I would have liked a hardcore Libertarian to be on the ticket. At least Gravel did not make it.
Gravel was the only one pushing a federal democracy. Do not get me wrong I do not like that the LP nominated Barr and Root but at least they would not concentrate power into the federal government, at least they say they will not.
OH GOD I CANT BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING. "Even as libertarians, the one fundamental function of government ... is to ... protect the nation, protect the sovereignty of the nation."
This is why the Paleos should be purged, they're corrupting the libertarian identity.
I'm a Ron Paul supporter fully intending on writing in "Ron Paul" come Nov.
If Ron drops out however, then Mike Gravel can lead me anywhere he wants. If you don't agree & can't see this man's integrity & stand by him for it, then you are a chicken coward who is a lost cause.
I'm afraid even the Libertarians are now getting infiltrated by people who recognize that the party is growing & the public perception of credibility is there, but wish to continue "anti-People agenda" under a new disguise.
"I'm afraid even the Libertarians are now getting infiltrated by people who recognize that the party is growing & the public perception of credibility is there, but wish to continue "anti-People agenda" under a new disguise."
What brilliance! You're so original, SEK3 didn't start arguing that 30 years ago, he didn't argue that at its initiation the party was a siphon for the state to suck the libertarian movement dry. Anyways, keep endorsing the state along with Paul and Gravel.
Mommy, help me, Agorism is too hard a concept for me to understand. Waaaah! Enjoy Gitmo, because that is what happens when you allow the state to subsist on your labor.
If you not willing to fight for your country, then get up and get the FUCK OUT HERE, WE DONT NEED PUSSIES LIKE YOU WHO DO NOTHING BUT WHINE AND COMPLAIN. Go find yourself an island, nazi. I dont believe in an anarchy state of 300milliion Jackass!
I suspect this is the same pussie who I have been telling off the last few days. Some much of a coward, that he uses multiple YT accts to hide behind. You have already been busted once. That proves you are a coward. I hate cowards and anarchist PUSSIES LIKE YOU. GET FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY, COWARD, TOO MANY ARE DYING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF CHICKENHAWKS AND LIARS.
Actually, this is my only account I frequent on (though I have troll accounts for *chan raids, etc.). It's expectable that you bring up some issue of various handles that you've argued as some sort of ethos bashing tactic since I see you have very little logical substance to put forth. And you wanting others to get out of "the country" as if you own their property only further establishes your tyrannical position.
You keep prove it all the time. Im sick of cowardess pussies like yourself who critize someone for not by into your bullshit theories, but sacrafice themselves, like Sheehan, Gravel, Mckinney, Nader, MLK, Egars. But yet we are suppose to bow down to your teachings of life. YOU ARE A TWO FACED NAZI, and a lying PUSSIE WHO only fight for the remote. SHUT UP. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
I Agree with Thorbie. Wayne Allyn Root had the best answers. He should join with Bob Barr as his running mate. Obviously, the best candidate would have been Ron Paul. Too bad he is content to hold on to his Congressional seat.
I'm not sure about Barr... I think he's a republican infiltrator. I may be wrong about that. I don't much care for Wayne Allen Root "W.A.R." the ex TV sports caster either.
The message is more important if it doesn't get watered down with anything but pure honesty like Dr. Paul's.
"Republican infiltrator" is irrelevant as they're ALL statist infiltrators. A true libertarian would look disparagingly upon the heap of tyranny that has become the Libertarian Party, and exhibit somber reverance for the unfortunate, mislead plans of Murray Rothbard in ever creating or endorsing such an organization.
What was Roots answer on ending the war, repealing the patriot acts, the military commissions act, now you explain to me what those answers are. Root and Barr and republican nazis. All of them are trying to be cloans of Ron Paul which is pathetic. Gravel all the way in 08!
lol, you're calling the two most libertarian candidates running for president in this video nazis? Mike Gravel just friggin said he was going to TAX WEALTH!!! You call Root and Barr nazis? lol come on. Gravel isn't even a capitalist...let alone a libertarian of any kind. The said he left the Dems because "it was no longer the party of fdr" anymore. The guy loves the inventor of the welfare state! You got to be kidding me...
Yes Im calling them that because your boy Barr voted your freedoms away, why are you not bother by that HYPOCRITE. TELL THE FAMILIES OF THE DEAD SOLIDIERS ABOUT BARRS FUCKING CONVERSION OVER TO YOUR DEMENTED THINKING, SEE IF THEY CARE. YES FUCKING NAZI, AND ROOT IS A NAZI WANTABE. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE EITHER OF THEM EVER SACRAFISED FOR THIS COUNTRY. NOT A GOD DAMN THING. TAKE BOOTH OF THEM AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!
Fighting for freedom means sacrafice, not being a scared pussy running their mouth and expecting others to do it for them. So again, I am impressed with chickenhawks.
However, sacrificing for a "country" is a sacrament to the "state" and an inherently non-libertarian action. In fact, A libertarian should not advocate sacrificial action since it implies giving something up, a libertarian should advocate free action, as is not sacrificial if the state STEALS it. I'll sacrifice nothing for the enjoyment of parasites.
Because sacraficing means that you care enough about the country and its future. You pussies are the most selfish, worthless generation of NAZIS I have ever seen. You think you have the right to critize others, but not come up with any solutions or stand up for anything. Again put up or shut up. Sick of whimpy ass arogant pussies like yourself who is full of shit.
Again, I assert you know nothing of Agorism. It seems you've "sacrificed" nothing towards your general education as a "libertarian" (you, of course, being the oxymoronic mockery of that term). Of couse, you still have an affinity to the state, a general concern for the state's (country's) well being, which is why you deem it only appropriate if you let parasites suck your self worth through "sacrificial acts". It's not me who's the "wimpy ass pussy". I act freely and you're too scared to start.
First of all I dont belong to any political party because all of them have their share of nuts in them. I only support candidates I believe in. I agree with the statement of the LP being purged, but I DONT LIKE COWARDS WHO CRITIZE BUT DO NOTHING. WE CANT AFFORD THAT ANYMORE.
You're only digging yourself a deeper hole. You have nothing to say, You understand nothing of the various philosophies I've put forth. All you seem to be is a slightly socialist statist who's been sorrily mislead by some nationalist pap. You see, you're the one being lead by the nose towards your defeatist plan. Enjoy getting nowhere in life. I still suggest you read the New Libertarian Manifesto so you can at least understand SOMETHING.
Utopia is a supposed "perfect" society where individuals act according to a "perfect" plan and don't deviate in action whatsoever. You're the "IDIOT" for thinking that a society free of the state is definitive of Utopia.
By the way, I can tell you possess a certain tactical expertise in debate given your abundant use of Straw Mans and Ad Homs.
Is Utopia actually realist when each person has there own idea of perfect and a plan from a politician who is self serving at worst or idealistic which is better only in intent.
Or is Utopia something thats reachable each person only by choice and willingness to pursue.
When did I say Barr was "my boy"? All I said was that Barr and Root were at least capitalists. Gravel doesn't even know what the word "libertarian" means. The guy's so senile his campaign ads are him standing in front of a camera for like a minute then throwing a rock into a pond or having a long conversation, just talking to himself. Also please stop typing in all upper caps, you'll wake the neighbors lol. Also please use definite and indefinite articles when you type. lol.
Root is a schill that has admitted to donating money to candidates outside of the party. Gambling and whores, a great image. Two nazis running together, and another responding to me if you dont know what Root is.
Lol, Root's jewish for goodness sake. How could he be a Nazi? Gravel on the other hand supports the nationalization of the healthcare industry, wealth redistribution, fascist welfare programs and left the Democratic Party, because it wasn't the party of FDR anymore, who was possibly the closest thing to a fascist president, this nation has ever had.
Root is a closeted NAZI who believes that gambling is honorable and whores are a privilage. Root wants to continue to privitize the military which is what is destroying them. Root doesnt give a damn about restoring your civil liberties,nor has he done anything show it. As far as what Gravel supports you should read his platform before you run your mouth off about something you know nothing about. Gravel put his life on the line to keep your 23yr old NAZI ass out of the military.
I've been a libertarian since I was old enough to vote (1984), am a current party member, and have been following this thread with much interest. That said, speaking as a libertarian, what is the problem with gambling and prostitutes? I favor the full legalization of both.
And, please, feel free to call me a nazi, since it seems that's how you respond to those who disagree with you. Please leave the caps off, though. It's so annoying, and doesn't add anything to your arguments.
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With whores you get STDs and gambling can destroy your life. Its hardly something to banner as experience. And I dont need your permission to call you a NAZI if I feel like it.
Nothing wrong with gambling and prostitution. It just calls for personal responsibility and our current political situation will not allow for personal responsibility.
If you were one of Barr's paid delegate, you have just insured that you party will remain a 0 and that much closer to a McCain victory. You are worthless.
You are a 23yr old NAZI who doesnt even realize that if it wasnt for Gravel you ass would be drafted into this war. He ended the draft and conscription in this country. Do you know the laws he passed, the capital wealth he tried to create for Alaskans with pipeline. Know what you are talking about before you open your DUMB MOUTH. BARR VOTED TO SEND YOUR NAZI ASS TO WAR WITH IRAQ. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT.
The draft is conscription. He can't end both the draft as well as conscription. Does he eat hot dogs and also frankfurters? Does he partake in drinking both soda and carbonated beverages? lol. I guess the verdict is in...everyone who doesn't like Mike Gravel is a nazi. lol.
More ramblings from a 23yr old NAZI. Life lessons from 23yr old this is hilarious. Look pussie, when you have the courage to talk in your original YT user name, I might engage you, until then, PISS OFF. You are NAZI and shill for NAZI candidates like Barr and Root. Barr who voted your rights away and sent people to their deaths, and Root who makes money from gambling and WHORES!
I can guarantee that you are not one of the wealthy, so your called concern for them is stupid. They love idiots like you who would cut their own throats, because you have your head in your ass.
That is not what he said and you know it. He stated what we taxed and what we didnt. The only thing that we dont tax in this country seems to be wealth. He wouldn't tax wealth more he would bring in something that would tax everyone the same. The more you buy the more you are taxed dont put words in his mouth. It's not directly saying I'm taxing wealth... Leveling the playing field..Get your facts straight...
He didn't say anything like that. He said it was strange that we tax all these things and not tax wealth. Why didn't he just say "but we don't tax consumption"?
"why dont they support there fellow libertarians, if they like the party so much."
Maybe because the libertarian party is not made up of libertarians? Perhaps you mean "libertarian party members"? If that's the case I could give you a number of reasons not to support them.
Thomas Jefferson politically was basically the equivalent of a used car salesman that some times got it right but usually didn't have the right idea or thought in mind when he did so.
Jefferson was the best President we have had. Not only did he co-author the two documents that layed the idealogical foundation, based on Classic Liberalism/American Libertarianism, for our country he also adverted war with Napoleon through a market transaction, Louisiana Purchase, and predicted that Slavery would be a painful issue for the country and would eventually lead to great hardship for the country.
If Jefferson's ideas were not right the basis of this country's lassiez-faire small government roots is not right, either. Root had the best answer to that question.
That's ridiculous. It is the choice of the corporations and ind individual to hire an immigrant, out source a job etc etc.
Look at France, Norway, Italy etc can you walk in and become a citizen? NO. BUT if you are there traveling and get sick, wounded etc more than likely you will be treated completely free.
Lol, the most surprising thing was Gravel saying Washington was his favorite president. I swear to god I expected FDR or some other socialist. After watching all this, my view is reaffirmed that Wayne Allyn Root would be the best candidate to be the LP nominee. Barr might be a good vp candidate for him and get him some media exposure, but I certainly hope that Gravel loses big and leaves the LP and goes to the Green Party or some other part that better suits his socialist tendencies.
Thorble is one of the many that ASSUMES things about Gravel and where he stands. Your opinion is most likely a judgement made using misinformation and ignorance like the majority of youtubers. The stupid party = youtubers
"Can you think of anything that is more libertarian than empowering people to make laws?"
- Mike Gravel
I know where that fucker stands and he certainly isn't a libertarian. He IS more of a socialist, however I wouldn't offend the fellow libertarians who are voluntarist socialists by calling him one. Instead I'll call him what he is, a statist, the scum of the earth, an aggressive counter-individualist.
We're tired of the bushisms were tired of the shame we want a man who can stand up and give us a good name. we hear them speak for our freedoms and they see with our eyes. These might be the candidates that go for the prize.
RON PAUL 2012 Thumbs up if you're voting for him!
SanguineBullet667 2 months ago
The future of the Libertarian Party and the Libertarian Movement, is to recruit Classical Liberals from the Democratic Party. Who are fed up with the socialists in the Democratic Party. And recruit Classical Conservatives from the Republican Party. Who are fed up with the theocrats and Neoconservatives in the Republican Party. And there are a lot of these people in both parties who are young. And are looking at Ron Paul for President.
FRSFreeStateNow 6 months ago
I agree we should get rid of we should get rid of the public unions which run the teachers. The only one that would have a reason to revive the libertarian party is Ron Paul. He won't do it. He should join his son.
DonJusko 10 months ago
fuck bob barr
joshua1auhsoj 11 months ago
@joshua1auhsoj begone troll with the filthy mouth. Save it for in your house.
DonJusko 10 months ago
@joshua1auhsoj begone troll with the filthy mouth. Save it for in your house. Not that I like Barr voting record I just don't think your mouth belongs here or anywhere else I go.
DonJusko 10 months ago
Root seems like a sales man. I mean, he preaches some right answers, but I dont think he knows how to apply them, and I dont think he is completley sold on those beliefs.
connorqb17 11 months ago
Mike Gravel is awesome.
Madfoot713 1 year ago
What's the obsession with the DOE? Obviously, the DOE is ridiculous but there are bigger fish to fry.
LiberalCast 1 year ago
Barr/Root disgust me. . .how is it libertarian to ration and regiment? border control is big government; we had open borders from 1776-1914
LiberalCast 1 year ago
Reason.. very disappointing.. they have a round table about the future of the Libertarian party and they have two Republicans(Barr and Root) in there... disguising.
Wheres Meyers, where is Badnarik? Where are the true Libertarians in place of these two?
JustaLibertarian 1 year ago
I hope everyone votes for LIBERTY on November 2nd -- and ever afterward! Vote for liberty, justice, and individual rights! Vote for capitalism and libertarianism! Do NOT vote for evil Welfare Statism via the lowlife, nitwit Republicans or Democrats!!
PureLiberalFire 1 year ago
"My wife make uh dis cheese, It is from her tit." Borat
benisnowsober 1 year ago
did any of them get in? i sure hope so america need this people badly
ieatdeadbabies101 1 year ago
I love these guys, but Wayne Allen Root needs to lay off the crack, lol.
JoeWinU235 1 year ago
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earwaxhalo 1 year ago
We need all of these guys in Washington to help President Ron Paul in 2012. Throw the neocons and progressives out now!
residentzombie 1 year ago 4
Wayne Allyn root speaks truth about our borders, we need to secure our borders now!
The Talk is over.
jmjfanss 2 years ago
War begets war. We should have let the Europeans settle their conflict. I like it.
Estevinyo 2 years ago
I like Wayne Allen Root, and Bob Barr. Mike Gravel is a good guy, but he seems very liberal to me.
TylerHinds 2 years ago
@TylerHinds He is liberal. He's a left libertarian. I don't know how you can like Bob Barr over Mike Gravel. Mike Gravel helped Daniel Eisenberg release the Pentagon Papers. Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act. Ron Paul and Mike Gravel are both true libertarians, on different sides of the spectrum but principled and honest.
Madfoot713 1 year ago
The guy to the right said the Republican party was taken back by small government advocates in the 80s and 90s? I must have missed that. Bob Barr was a fascist neo-con until last year, Allen Root is a professional gambler nutcase, the other two guys are no namers. Mike Gravel is the only guy there with any credibility. The LP is run by used car salesman, and it hurts to say that being 100% libertarian
BikiniBabe1985 2 years ago 6
@BikiniBabe1985 Wasn't fascism like national SOCIALISM? I keep hearing it is something of the right but when I look at the people on the left I see the same totalitarians walking around that paraded in Germany. Its the same anti-capitalist rants and assumption of a collective will that everyone is suppose to have. Conservatives are the least fascist people on the earth since most of them are really politically innert.
timbosforporn 1 year ago
@timbosforporn it's all the same...
ParadoxEarth 1 year ago
i don't like that first guy. I wonder if any of these guys even know about Austrian economics.
openyourmind678 2 years ago
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libertarian is just a farm party for replublicans.
just like the greens and the democrats.
oldhacks 2 years ago
What? Libertarians are no closer to Republicans than they are to Democrats, go look at a Nolan Chart. The Constitution Party is the Republican 'farm party' you're thinking of.
ICTN218 2 years ago
well, the department of education does have a lot of shortcomings, but whats the alternative? send them to an expensive private school that many families cannot afford, have them homeschooled by mom(so now she can't work if she wants too) and have them taught in biblical literalism?
I may consider myself libertarian but I don't want our nation to have to suffer that, our country will fall behind the rest. So unless the minds of every single American opens their mind to science over night, NO.
VisitingXenoc133 2 years ago
The idea behind the Libertarian rejection of the DoE is that since its inception, public schools have gotten worse. It intervenes nationally and forces kids to learn the "nationally acceptable" version of events.
Education should be handled locally, even if publicly - it increases the rate of adoption of innovation if nothing else.
Homeschooled children, by the way, consistently outperform publicly educated children in standardized testing.
boamiel 2 years ago 6
I find it baffleing when a person says voting 3rd party is a wasted vote. So is a vote for the Corperatist Party or the Socialist Party better?
LanceHall 2 years ago 5
The Constitution and the Libertarian Party should merge to form the Constitutional Libertarian Party. It's the only way either party will ever get anywhere, in Washington D.C. or in the separate states.
I know they have slightly different positions on certain issues, but so do those within the Republican and Democratic parties- yet they manage to get along and enjoy great success.
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MVFipher 2 years ago
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lol.. "libertarian think tank" These guys have no real solutions. Hard backed currency will never work.
Getting behind Ron Paul is a joke that man has no fixes nothing progressive or innovative.
702decatur 2 years ago
You obviously have never read, "Ron Paul Revolution" or read anything by Mises or his policy on the War on Drugs and wrong-headed war abroad.
Are you kidding me?? Hahahah. The only joke is you. bro.
Hairylegs25 2 years ago
If you think any of these retards have any realistic fixes for anything then you are the joke.
I know most of this stuff is way over your head and thats what the Libertarian party counts on. They try to get you worked up about things you know little about.
This is fun for all of you low IQ libertarians...
702decatur 2 years ago
dont be so afraid of your own freedoms. Although I do appreciate you insulting my IQ while not even gracing me with a single example of why these "fixes" will fail. As I remember American history, our country has profited most when It's President's views aligned with those of the libertarian party. The American Revolution, The Industrial Revolution, The Economy through the 80's and most of the 90's.......Youre welcome.
jaketheraper 2 years ago 6
You appear to have missed the point.
The only thing libertarianism wants to "fix" is the size of government. The whole idea is lazy people should be allowed to be lazy, people should be allowed to fail, people should be allowed to make their own choices. There's no "fix", just big government and a government concerned only with law and defence.
We can "fix" everything else out ourselves. We don't need government for ANY of it.
IQ 142, for the record.
thirteenfingers 2 years ago 3
Heaven forbid Ron Paul leaves you to decide your own fate. I guess you would rather have the federal government be progressive and decide what you will or will not do. Actually it sounds like youre afraid of your own freedom.
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MaverickWhig 3 years ago
I think what he meant to say was that World War I was a major cause of World War II in Europe, as well as the Palestine/Israel conflicts, and to a lesser degree many other Middle Eastern wars. And World War II led to the Cold War, which led to US support for Third World dictators, which led to intense hatred of the United States in many countries, and the Cold War also led to the Taliban and everything that resulted from that. So basically, World War I led to most major wars in the time since.
kittyprydekissme 3 years ago
Mike Gravel is a dunce. "War creates war starting in WW1." ?!?!!?
prplhayes06 3 years ago
Seriously, lol. That was a hilariously retarded comment. Let's throw out all IR Theory and use Gravel's theory. So basically all war started from a fist fight between two neanderthals. lol
Thorbie 3 years ago
visit virtualgalt
mbh76 3 years ago
The two party system have had their chance time and again, but they blew it, the Country is broken, so this time I'm going to vote a new party - Bob Barr.
sukayren 3 years ago 16
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People, please vote for McCain, put up with him for four years or however long it takes for the Libertarian Party to nominate an acceptable candidate.
DoctorMurky 3 years ago
Why would any libertarian vote for a war mongering Statist?
readthepaper 3 years ago 17
Because Obama would totally ruin our economy. By the way, I'm sorry I encouraged people to vote for McCain. My fear of an Obama America got the best of me. I decided to support Bob Barr after a.) reading Matt Welch's essay in the April? 2007 issue of Reason (available on their website) and seeing Bob Barr's "Time For Liberty" video. My excuse is that I work in New Orleans where liberals have had their way for decades and I have a good feeling that Obama would turn the U.S. into New Orleans.
DoctorMurky 3 years ago 6
DoctorQuirk, the way to strengthen the Lib party is to vote for it now, and this will accomplish 2 things:
1) If everybody who believed Lib were to vote Lib, then whichever jerkoff who gets elected will be forced to take the concerns of the Lib party more seriously.
2) If people see the Lib party increase in size, then in the next election they will realize that it is possible for a 3rd party to muscle its way up and they will be more inclined to vote for it because they see that it has promise.
pintofnewcastle 3 years ago 2
I took back what I said about voting for McCain a long time ago if you had bothered to look. Forgive me for not immediately supporting Barr. This is the guy who said in 1999 that if the Ten Commandments had been posted in Columbine High School that the massacre there wouldn't have taken place. Being a committed atheist, I don't easily forgive Congressmen from the Bible Belt who want the Ten Commandments posted everywhere. However, I have reason to believe that Barr has changed ... enough.
DoctorMurky 3 years ago
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Libertarians are just ashamed-republicans-in-hiding with an extra dose of greed thrown into the mix.
Do us all a favor and shut the fuck up & go hide in your US Flag jammies & suck on your independent thumb while dreaming of fiscal responsibility while we set to work fixing all the damage that your fiscal responsibility nutjob ideology about has done to turn our country into a Hellish mess of uncared for sick children, ruined airlines & public transit systems, dead factories & falling bridges.
mhirtes12 3 years ago
What does Libertarian fiscal ideology have to do with sick children, ruined airlines and public transit? If people would discuss ideas instead of just turning red, pointing fingers, and screaming names at each other maybe we could actually come to some sort of reasonable resolution on issues.
deadherogtr1 3 years ago
That Wayne Allen Root guy seems like a real douchebag. He's also a "ron paul Republican" (libertarian on foreign policy and economics but a strict conservative on social policy). Don't get me wrong: I love Ron Paul, but his religious conservatism frightens me. If I were a Libertarian, I'd be for limited economic deregulation and bureaucracy-crashing as well as social libertarianism. I'm kind of ashamed that the libertarian movement in the US has been hijacked by right-libertarians.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Left-libertarians need to regain power in the party and bring back that balance it had when it started. Michael badnarik was ok on social libertarianism, but Bobb Barr is a former conservative Republican. Ron Paul was conservative on social issues and didn't even believe in the separation of church n state. I'm sure Harry Browne was essentially more of a right-lib as well. We need more Ed Clarks and less Bob Barr's in the LP.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Conservative on social issues - because he doesn't think it should be legal to murder an unborn child? The state's few legitimate duties are to protect our life, liberty, and property, last time I checked that fell under the category of life. Why should I not be able to pray in school? You can read a book if you want while I pray for the 5 minute allotted time. This shouldn't even be an issue because public education shouldn't exist though.
readthepaper 3 years ago 2
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Bob Barr - The perfect idiot to represent one of the kookiest of political ideas.
mhirtes12 3 years ago
None of these people have the Sand of Goldwater.
The first Libertarian President will be a Republican who actually is a leader, and not an intellectual lightweight.
Ron Paul is a great legislator, but not a leader. I'm still waiting, and if I don't see anyone in the next 20 years, I'm running.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
How are we nazis for supporting legalization of prostitution and gambling truthout911? The Nazis would be on your side, I hope you realize that. Bob Barr isn't perfect his record is as checkered as my floor tiles. But we need to create some unity in the LP, we're seen as a bunch of anarchist with no objective. If you want to American people to support this third party,we need to start acting like one.
Russianman17 3 years ago
No libertarian is going to have a chance of winning the presidency at least in the near future so all that matters is that these principles are advanced, which is what they're going to do.
andrewl105 3 years ago
Not Barr. He's going to turn the LP into a tyrant's spittoon.
Right now libertarians should advance counter economics.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
"lets get one state free and be a sanctuary for people who wish to escape tyranny"
I agree that we should promote liberty at the local level but before we can do that we need to get the federal government out of the way. And to everyone who is skeptical of Barr and Root about whether or not they're serious about denouncing they're neoconservative ways
I would say that it doesn't really matter. future
andrewl105 3 years ago
That one state would be a huge target for state attacks. I do, however, believe it would be more prosperous than a dispersed movement, When Economies have a means of easy access and transport they're much more stable.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
May the LP rest in peace Barr/Root are the grim reapers that will finally show that the LP is ineffective and does nothing to advance libertarianism.
Become an activist for liberty joins the Free State Project and lets get one state free and be a sanctuary for people who wish to escape tyranny.
slimat420 3 years ago
Barr and Root and two nazis.
truthout911 3 years ago
I do not now if I like the Barr/Root ticket. I may appeal to more people but I would have liked a hardcore Libertarian to be on the ticket. At least Gravel did not make it.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
Why? Gravel's no worse than the rest of these statists.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Gravel was the only one pushing a federal democracy. Do not get me wrong I do not like that the LP nominated Barr and Root but at least they would not concentrate power into the federal government, at least they say they will not.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
Inside Bob Barr's hart is the hart of a fascist.
Crunchybear1 3 years ago 2
OH GOD I CANT BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING. "Even as libertarians, the one fundamental function of government ... is to ... protect the nation, protect the sovereignty of the nation."
This is why the Paleos should be purged, they're corrupting the libertarian identity.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Right wing Libertarians: a contradiction of actions. Enjoy your growing state.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
That's because the guy on the right side is a Republican running for Congress (see the intro).
libertyrepub 3 years ago
the guy on the right has some kind of silly infatuation with ronald regan...
ambientdiscord 3 years ago
I'm a Ron Paul supporter fully intending on writing in "Ron Paul" come Nov.
If Ron drops out however, then Mike Gravel can lead me anywhere he wants. If you don't agree & can't see this man's integrity & stand by him for it, then you are a chicken coward who is a lost cause.
I'm afraid even the Libertarians are now getting infiltrated by people who recognize that the party is growing & the public perception of credibility is there, but wish to continue "anti-People agenda" under a new disguise.
LumpyRevolution 3 years ago
"then Mike Gravel can lead me anywhere he wants."
Definition of a sheep.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Baaaahhhhhh!!!
Ass hole
LumpyRevolution 3 years ago
Fuck you, whore of the state.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Tough internet guy huh? My mouse trembles.
LumpyRevolution 3 years ago
"I'm afraid even the Libertarians are now getting infiltrated by people who recognize that the party is growing & the public perception of credibility is there, but wish to continue "anti-People agenda" under a new disguise."
What brilliance! You're so original, SEK3 didn't start arguing that 30 years ago, he didn't argue that at its initiation the party was a siphon for the state to suck the libertarian movement dry. Anyways, keep endorsing the state along with Paul and Gravel.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Another one of these do nothing anarchist who is about nothing. Enjoy Gitmo, because that is what happens when all you do is talk. Night NAZI.
truthout911 3 years ago
Mommy, help me, Agorism is too hard a concept for me to understand. Waaaah! Enjoy Gitmo, because that is what happens when you allow the state to subsist on your labor.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
If you not willing to fight for your country, then get up and get the FUCK OUT HERE, WE DONT NEED PUSSIES LIKE YOU WHO DO NOTHING BUT WHINE AND COMPLAIN. Go find yourself an island, nazi. I dont believe in an anarchy state of 300milliion Jackass!
truthout911 3 years ago
"anarchy state"
LMAO.
You don't think anarchy works so you'd assert your ownership on those 300 million? Do I really need to point out who's the "nazi" in this discussion?
And, I dont need to find an island, as Social Contracts are illegitimate.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
I suspect this is the same pussie who I have been telling off the last few days. Some much of a coward, that he uses multiple YT accts to hide behind. You have already been busted once. That proves you are a coward. I hate cowards and anarchist PUSSIES LIKE YOU. GET FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY, COWARD, TOO MANY ARE DYING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF CHICKENHAWKS AND LIARS.
truthout911 3 years ago
Actually, this is my only account I frequent on (though I have troll accounts for *chan raids, etc.). It's expectable that you bring up some issue of various handles that you've argued as some sort of ethos bashing tactic since I see you have very little logical substance to put forth. And you wanting others to get out of "the country" as if you own their property only further establishes your tyrannical position.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Your reliance on the ethical establishment of my cowardice is irrelevant, as It is I who is in active defiance of the state and not you.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
*am in*
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
You keep prove it all the time. Im sick of cowardess pussies like yourself who critize someone for not by into your bullshit theories, but sacrafice themselves, like Sheehan, Gravel, Mckinney, Nader, MLK, Egars. But yet we are suppose to bow down to your teachings of life. YOU ARE A TWO FACED NAZI, and a lying PUSSIE WHO only fight for the remote. SHUT UP. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
truthout911 3 years ago
Yes, Bow down to the teachings of Voluntarism. Hypocrite. You worship men as if they were gods.
I'm telling no one to bow down to my ideals, I'm telling them that I am not their property. Yet your "Nazi" self has decided the opposite.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
I Agree with Thorbie. Wayne Allyn Root had the best answers. He should join with Bob Barr as his running mate. Obviously, the best candidate would have been Ron Paul. Too bad he is content to hold on to his Congressional seat.
TuNnL 3 years ago
I'm not sure about Barr... I think he's a republican infiltrator. I may be wrong about that. I don't much care for Wayne Allen Root "W.A.R." the ex TV sports caster either.
The message is more important if it doesn't get watered down with anything but pure honesty like Dr. Paul's.
LumpyRevolution 3 years ago
"Republican infiltrator" is irrelevant as they're ALL statist infiltrators. A true libertarian would look disparagingly upon the heap of tyranny that has become the Libertarian Party, and exhibit somber reverance for the unfortunate, mislead plans of Murray Rothbard in ever creating or endorsing such an organization.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
What was Roots answer on ending the war, repealing the patriot acts, the military commissions act, now you explain to me what those answers are. Root and Barr and republican nazis. All of them are trying to be cloans of Ron Paul which is pathetic. Gravel all the way in 08!
truthout911 3 years ago
lol, you're calling the two most libertarian candidates running for president in this video nazis? Mike Gravel just friggin said he was going to TAX WEALTH!!! You call Root and Barr nazis? lol come on. Gravel isn't even a capitalist...let alone a libertarian of any kind. The said he left the Dems because "it was no longer the party of fdr" anymore. The guy loves the inventor of the welfare state! You got to be kidding me...
Thorbie 3 years ago
Yes Im calling them that because your boy Barr voted your freedoms away, why are you not bother by that HYPOCRITE. TELL THE FAMILIES OF THE DEAD SOLIDIERS ABOUT BARRS FUCKING CONVERSION OVER TO YOUR DEMENTED THINKING, SEE IF THEY CARE. YES FUCKING NAZI, AND ROOT IS A NAZI WANTABE. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE EITHER OF THEM EVER SACRAFISED FOR THIS COUNTRY. NOT A GOD DAMN THING. TAKE BOOTH OF THEM AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!
truthout911 3 years ago
A "libertarian" demanding "sacrifice for [the] country"? My god, I wasn't aware the LP patronage had gotten this bad.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Fighting for freedom means sacrafice, not being a scared pussy running their mouth and expecting others to do it for them. So again, I am impressed with chickenhawks.
truthout911 3 years ago
However, sacrificing for a "country" is a sacrament to the "state" and an inherently non-libertarian action. In fact, A libertarian should not advocate sacrificial action since it implies giving something up, a libertarian should advocate free action, as is not sacrificial if the state STEALS it. I'll sacrifice nothing for the enjoyment of parasites.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago 2
Because sacraficing means that you care enough about the country and its future. You pussies are the most selfish, worthless generation of NAZIS I have ever seen. You think you have the right to critize others, but not come up with any solutions or stand up for anything. Again put up or shut up. Sick of whimpy ass arogant pussies like yourself who is full of shit.
truthout911 3 years ago
Again, I assert you know nothing of Agorism. It seems you've "sacrificed" nothing towards your general education as a "libertarian" (you, of course, being the oxymoronic mockery of that term). Of couse, you still have an affinity to the state, a general concern for the state's (country's) well being, which is why you deem it only appropriate if you let parasites suck your self worth through "sacrificial acts". It's not me who's the "wimpy ass pussy". I act freely and you're too scared to start.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
I dont have to assert anything, you comments same it all. YOU ARE PUSSIE, A LIAR, AND A COWARD. GET THE FUCK OUT HERE.
truthout911 3 years ago
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
This is why the "Libertarian" Party must be purged.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
First of all I dont belong to any political party because all of them have their share of nuts in them. I only support candidates I believe in. I agree with the statement of the LP being purged, but I DONT LIKE COWARDS WHO CRITIZE BUT DO NOTHING. WE CANT AFFORD THAT ANYMORE.
truthout911 3 years ago
Yeah, Counter-economics is nothing. You're the epitome of what state education leads to.
And I highly doubt you would have agreed with my statement If I had contextualized it.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
You are the epitome of what happens when you want people to lead you around by the nose. NAZIS usually are lead to the slaughter.
truthout911 3 years ago
You're only digging yourself a deeper hole. You have nothing to say, You understand nothing of the various philosophies I've put forth. All you seem to be is a slightly socialist statist who's been sorrily mislead by some nationalist pap. You see, you're the one being lead by the nose towards your defeatist plan. Enjoy getting nowhere in life. I still suggest you read the New Libertarian Manifesto so you can at least understand SOMETHING.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
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Anyone who believes in a utopia is IDIOT in the first place so nuff said. Begone NAZI.
truthout911 3 years ago
Utopia is a supposed "perfect" society where individuals act according to a "perfect" plan and don't deviate in action whatsoever. You're the "IDIOT" for thinking that a society free of the state is definitive of Utopia.
By the way, I can tell you possess a certain tactical expertise in debate given your abundant use of Straw Mans and Ad Homs.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago 2
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FUCK OFF NAZI.
truthout911 3 years ago
NO U
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
TEHNAZI
truthout911 3 years ago
Astonishing! Never did I think parody of an epithet could contribute so much to a debate!
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Is Utopia actually realist when each person has there own idea of perfect and a plan from a politician who is self serving at worst or idealistic which is better only in intent.
Or is Utopia something thats reachable each person only by choice and willingness to pursue.
littledeaths2 3 years ago
Do you even know what a Nazi is?
hmb3 3 years ago
Undoubtedly, no.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
When did I say Barr was "my boy"? All I said was that Barr and Root were at least capitalists. Gravel doesn't even know what the word "libertarian" means. The guy's so senile his campaign ads are him standing in front of a camera for like a minute then throwing a rock into a pond or having a long conversation, just talking to himself. Also please stop typing in all upper caps, you'll wake the neighbors lol. Also please use definite and indefinite articles when you type. lol.
Thorbie 3 years ago
What's your problem? Root wants more freedom for individuals. Root a Nazi? Are you cracked?
hmb3 3 years ago
Root is a schill that has admitted to donating money to candidates outside of the party. Gambling and whores, a great image. Two nazis running together, and another responding to me if you dont know what Root is.
truthout911 3 years ago
So donating money and gambling and whores make you a Nazi? Somewhat like posting inane crap on youtube makes you a troll?
yetanotherforest 3 years ago
Makes Root a person who will sell and pimp out the LP faster than any whore could. Enjoy. 0%
truthout911 3 years ago
Lol, Root's jewish for goodness sake. How could he be a Nazi? Gravel on the other hand supports the nationalization of the healthcare industry, wealth redistribution, fascist welfare programs and left the Democratic Party, because it wasn't the party of FDR anymore, who was possibly the closest thing to a fascist president, this nation has ever had.
Thorbie 3 years ago
Root is a closeted NAZI who believes that gambling is honorable and whores are a privilage. Root wants to continue to privitize the military which is what is destroying them. Root doesnt give a damn about restoring your civil liberties,nor has he done anything show it. As far as what Gravel supports you should read his platform before you run your mouth off about something you know nothing about. Gravel put his life on the line to keep your 23yr old NAZI ass out of the military.
truthout911 3 years ago
I've been a libertarian since I was old enough to vote (1984), am a current party member, and have been following this thread with much interest. That said, speaking as a libertarian, what is the problem with gambling and prostitutes? I favor the full legalization of both.
And, please, feel free to call me a nazi, since it seems that's how you respond to those who disagree with you. Please leave the caps off, though. It's so annoying, and doesn't add anything to your arguments.
gritpipe 3 years ago
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With whores you get STDs and gambling can destroy your life. Its hardly something to banner as experience. And I dont need your permission to call you a NAZI if I feel like it.
truthout911 3 years ago
You will need if it will be banned like whores and gambling.
scineram 3 years ago
Forget about whores and worry more about Pres directive 51 or marshall law, idiot.
truthout911 3 years ago
Then why do you want to ban them?
scineram 3 years ago
Why are you talking about banning God Damn Whores? WHO CARES
truthout911 3 years ago
Nothing wrong with gambling and prostitution. It just calls for personal responsibility and our current political situation will not allow for personal responsibility.
erato99 3 years ago
last time i looked some form of gambling was legal in all fifty states and prostitution was legal in one.
opossumland5 3 years ago
If you were one of Barr's paid delegate, you have just insured that you party will remain a 0 and that much closer to a McCain victory. You are worthless.
truthout911 3 years ago
Root's not a nazi, he's a tyrant.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Root's a tyrant? Please extrapolate?
angelstouchmassage 3 years ago
You are a 23yr old NAZI who doesnt even realize that if it wasnt for Gravel you ass would be drafted into this war. He ended the draft and conscription in this country. Do you know the laws he passed, the capital wealth he tried to create for Alaskans with pipeline. Know what you are talking about before you open your DUMB MOUTH. BARR VOTED TO SEND YOUR NAZI ASS TO WAR WITH IRAQ. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT.
truthout911 3 years ago
The draft is conscription. He can't end both the draft as well as conscription. Does he eat hot dogs and also frankfurters? Does he partake in drinking both soda and carbonated beverages? lol. I guess the verdict is in...everyone who doesn't like Mike Gravel is a nazi. lol.
Thorbie 3 years ago
More ramblings from a 23yr old NAZI. Life lessons from 23yr old this is hilarious. Look pussie, when you have the courage to talk in your original YT user name, I might engage you, until then, PISS OFF. You are NAZI and shill for NAZI candidates like Barr and Root. Barr who voted your rights away and sent people to their deaths, and Root who makes money from gambling and WHORES!
truthout911 3 years ago
lol. Again with the missing definite and indefinite articles. Every time i read your posts i think of boris badinoff lol.
Thorbie 3 years ago
Everytime you post, I just see another dumbass younger nazi running his mouth about a whole lot of nothing.
truthout911 3 years ago
I can guarantee that you are not one of the wealthy, so your called concern for them is stupid. They love idiots like you who would cut their own throats, because you have your head in your ass.
truthout911 3 years ago
Wow, seriously does anyone else agree that this comment sounds like a Wesley Willis song? lololol
Thorbie 3 years ago
That is not what he said and you know it. He stated what we taxed and what we didnt. The only thing that we dont tax in this country seems to be wealth. He wouldn't tax wealth more he would bring in something that would tax everyone the same. The more you buy the more you are taxed dont put words in his mouth. It's not directly saying I'm taxing wealth... Leveling the playing field..Get your facts straight...
Voiceofjon 3 years ago
Wealthy people are taxed more as they spend more.
It's not rocket science. Poor people are not spending 100K on automobiles, diamond jewelry etc etc
damianpaonejazz 3 years ago
Not to mention a sales tax implies governmental ownership over products of trade.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
He didn't say anything like that. He said it was strange that we tax all these things and not tax wealth. Why didn't he just say "but we don't tax consumption"?
Thorbie 3 years ago
If you knew his policy you would know what he wants to do...
Voiceofjon 3 years ago
Plus your boys Barr and Root donate to republicans candidates, why dont they support there fellow libertarians, if they like the party so much.
truthout911 3 years ago
"why dont they support there fellow libertarians, if they like the party so much."
Maybe because the libertarian party is not made up of libertarians? Perhaps you mean "libertarian party members"? If that's the case I could give you a number of reasons not to support them.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
katty wompus!!! brilliant!!! MIKE GRAVEL 2008!
haveanopenmind 3 years ago 2
The younger gent on the end needs to go home & kick that coke habit.
What a chump!
willtrib 3 years ago
In November, my vote will go to Mary Ruwart or I'll write in Ron Paul.
txballoonman 3 years ago
Out of all of the people in this video, Wayne Alan Root did the least for Ron Paul, so don't listen to his lies. ;)
StormCommander 3 years ago
Go Vern McKinely! Everyone go to his campaign website and donate :)
StormCommander 3 years ago
They all sound like quality candidates. Better than McCain and Clinton, who will end up beating Obama.
TajiTJ 3 years ago
Thomas Jefferson politically was basically the equivalent of a used car salesman that some times got it right but usually didn't have the right idea or thought in mind when he did so.
damianpaonejazz 3 years ago
Jefferson was the best President we have had. Not only did he co-author the two documents that layed the idealogical foundation, based on Classic Liberalism/American Libertarianism, for our country he also adverted war with Napoleon through a market transaction, Louisiana Purchase, and predicted that Slavery would be a painful issue for the country and would eventually lead to great hardship for the country.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
he also ended the alien sedition acts and got rid of the first national bank. The most constitutional president weve ever had.
andrewl105 3 years ago
If Jefferson's ideas were not right the basis of this country's lassiez-faire small government roots is not right, either. Root had the best answer to that question.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
ROOT IS AN ASS. YEAH Heroin gets rid of pain too. HIS THOUGHT ARE ALWAYS INCOMPLETE. And THOMAS JEFFORSON?!?! TELLING
damianpaonejazz 3 years ago
What Wayne Root says about vouchers and education is exactly the same plan and exactly the same as his plan health care.
I doubt anyone has any clue what, where all of these candidates are coming from. The representation and the psyche people have is completely skewed.
damianpaonejazz 3 years ago
Seal the borders... immigrants taking advantage?
That's ridiculous. It is the choice of the corporations and ind individual to hire an immigrant, out source a job etc etc.
Look at France, Norway, Italy etc can you walk in and become a citizen? NO. BUT if you are there traveling and get sick, wounded etc more than likely you will be treated completely free.
damianpaonejazz 3 years ago
Ironically Ron Paul went from libertarian to republican.
Ass backward bullshit.
Wayne Root is a corporate tool that will say anything to get the vote. Bullshit artist.
damianpaonejazz 3 years ago 2
No, Paul has never been a libertarian, he did not backtrack.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Ron Paul ran for president as a Libertarian.
gritpipe 3 years ago
Running as an LP candidate isn't the criteria for being a libertarian.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago
Touche. Sadly true.
gritpipe 3 years ago
Lol, the most surprising thing was Gravel saying Washington was his favorite president. I swear to god I expected FDR or some other socialist. After watching all this, my view is reaffirmed that Wayne Allyn Root would be the best candidate to be the LP nominee. Barr might be a good vp candidate for him and get him some media exposure, but I certainly hope that Gravel loses big and leaves the LP and goes to the Green Party or some other part that better suits his socialist tendencies.
Thorbie 3 years ago
Thorble is one of the many that ASSUMES things about Gravel and where he stands. Your opinion is most likely a judgement made using misinformation and ignorance like the majority of youtubers. The stupid party = youtubers
damianpaonejazz 3 years ago
"Can you think of anything that is more libertarian than empowering people to make laws?"
- Mike Gravel
I know where that fucker stands and he certainly isn't a libertarian. He IS more of a socialist, however I wouldn't offend the fellow libertarians who are voluntarist socialists by calling him one. Instead I'll call him what he is, a statist, the scum of the earth, an aggressive counter-individualist.
TehBANN3D 3 years ago 2
We're tired of the bushisms were tired of the shame we want a man who can stand up and give us a good name. we hear them speak for our freedoms and they see with our eyes. These might be the candidates that go for the prize.
jitterstlongpaw 3 years ago 2