The things they don't factor into these reviews are base price, price to repair and insure. I looked into buying the GTI and the SI before purchasing my SS. Those two were just far too much money. The GTI was almost 7k more than the Cobalt and the price to insure it was outrageous. And the price of replacement parts for any German car is crazy. Same for the SI (minus replacing parts). I like both cars, but best bang for your buck is the Cobalt.
@leirocks1 well the TC guy is a friend of mine and we raced many times, we even swaped cars to se if it was the driver but it was about the same result. The scion is quite heavy in comparison with a little plastic paneled twin cam.
i don't get why they hate da spoiler on the ss i think it makes it look complete its not to high or not to low it's a perfect spoiler for the car and it completes its look
What everyone forgets is that if you put the money into the Tc to upgrade it, it would kick the sh*t out of any of those cars and cost the same as them.
@baseballmanrg But not at all, your price will rocket with aftermarket or TRD parts, the GTI has the greatest top end but the Civic Si has the quickest 0-60 time of 5.9 seconds. Tc was in the mid to high 6's. But the 8k redline in the Si is the highest reving engine in group, most redline at 6k to 6.5k (gross).
The TC is crap - I cannot think of a worse sport compact. It is slow (especially without the supercharger), handles poorly and has a horrible interior. It is the joke of the sport compact world.
They made a big mistake in the video. The Tc they messed up on, the shift knob they used was for automatic tc's and they only put a super charger in but no other TRD parts. so of course the car didnt perform well because none of the stock parts could perform with the TRD engine. If they put all the parts in, this car would be #1
I own a corolla xrs 09 and it sucks when it comes to performance ! It's just a good car ! I did some track days with it and it sucks more........ my AE86 is still a way better car than that ! V6 engine, MR, RWD or 4WD = Real sport car ! Go check the Corolla APR GT ( Super GT ) Now thats a HOT car ;)
@JoshChadwick doughtful, becuase yes the interior is cheap, but the one thing that was not made cheaply was the motor, stock motors are good for 500hp plus, which leads me to beleive that the motors will last the longest in these cars
@JoshChadwick 500 is not bs, stage 6 kits run i think 450whp, and a twin charge kit runs ~400whp, so 500 on a stock motor is not hard to fathom, so i think the bolt is the best to mod because you have a good platform and a lot of "room" to upgrade
the GTI is the best car i've driven so far. but i agree, power is kind of dull for this car. But, with proper tune, this car can say bye bye to M3's and M5's.
I will 2nd the winning decision. I miss my 06 MKV GTI 6 speed manual in white. That was the most fun car I've ever owned. Too bad my wife hated it and I bought it without telling her. Short lived glory.
The Civic Si needs a K24. Even an NA one would be ok because it would get more tourqe and at 100hp per liter they might get 240hp though even 220 would be ok. Once you put bolt ons it would get 30more hp so there you go
Bolt ons will not give you 30 HP on a K24. An intake might be 4-5, an exhaust 6-7, and headers maybe 3-5. You're looking at about 13-20, and 20 would be on a GOOD day.
Anyone who doubts the GTI should first drive it and then talk. I had my doubts too because the GTI doesnt look the best on paper. Once you're inside however it just feels like a well engineered German car. The SI engine sounds like it has 400hp but in reality a large SUV would probably smoke it. GTI should not be in this comparison the SI/TC/SS are all plastic and for 16 yr olds who own all four Fast and the Furious dvds
yea youre right i mean its only been placed in car and driver 10 best cars three times in past 5 years how did that happen?? and ive never in my life seen a woman drive a gti so idk what ur talking about? The only car that (sometimes) beats out GTI in comparison is mazdaspeed 3 bc it has 63 more hp and stiffer suspension but has a cheap interior. it comes down to what you prefer refinement or performance GTI or MS3. anyone over 18 should not drive a SI/TC/SS/WRX
never first, but [}{]ondas have been first, and then again vw are not relaible cars, thats why they almost never win and not recomended as a best buy.
its obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about bc you sound like youre repeating what your dad told you. cheaper VWs like Jettas and Beetles are assembled in Mexico and sometimes have electrical problems but never engine. Hondas are very reliable bc its simple engineering nothing advanced. Honda wont have dual clutch trans for another 5 yrs probably. The GTI is recommended (in every single magazine) and once again is in 10 best cars its just a fact im sorry not just my opinion
what i say is because i read it, and yes honda will have dual clutch eventualy, but is not necesary at this moment, gti's are cheap too, dont care what kind of problem is either electrical, motor or transmision still is a car not relaible regardless from where it was made, hondas are where ever they come from.
ok whats your point? Hyundai is more reliable than Mercedes too. a 1997 civic is probably more reliable than a 2009 Porsche i guarantee you that. Japanese cars are just a cheaper version of German cars. Lexus ISF is just a wannabe M3. Infiniti G its just a wannabe bmw 3series. a german car will always be more expensive than japanese car even if it has less power. and GTI is not cheap compared to a Civic its at minimum a 5k difference which is alot when youre talking about this price range
Honda finished second with all of them having superchargers and turbos. Honda only has V-tech and they could stand with the best of them. Honda is the best. What's up with the commentator talking about 10 year old hondas with tin can exhausts? Those are the cars that started it all. Fucking asshole!
please dont say "V-tech" that is so annyoing, Vtech is a freaking electronic company that makes phones and toys for babies. its Vtec, plain and simple. and the Si has i-Vtec way different than good old Vtec last time i read. but what i dont understand is why did a 1.8l Vtec engine produce more than 100hp/l in the US market when i-Vtec doesnt? they have the 2.0l 224hp type r JDM civic, bring that over here, and put it against these cars. no doubt it would kill. this coming from a tC owner too.
Hmmm, Just bought my TRD Supercharger for $1900 and installed it myself. Couldn't be happier with it. And just to correct Terrel, SC tC =200 WHEEL horsepower thats like 225-230 to the flywheel.
yeah apparently toyota underrated the superchargers power.but $1900 is good, should've saved up more for a turbo, many have had problems with the S/C, some have gone through 3 S/C's.
5kmi after I installed the sc my tranny blew. It happened to be factory defects that caught up with it at 46kmi. They told me if I went turbo it would have cost me $5225 for the new tranny. Since I went sc and even installed it myself they still covered it under powertrain warranty. Ended up paying $100 for them to install a fidanza flywheel and stage 2 clutch while they were in there and $0 for the new tranny and it's install. Pretty happy I went s/c. Warranties save lives.
since TRD released the supercharger back in 05. now they discontinued it so they dont make the supercharger anymore. please tel me you know about turbo tC's cuz both have been around for a while now.
the supercharger was optional, and they probably only installed the trd supedcharger on the tc so the car it self wouldn't be underpowered for this test with these cars that put out around 200 hp. a stock tc is 160 hp
I cant believe they had the tC last. I own one, the gear ratio sucks yes. But the braking and handling are great I think. I have driven only the SS cobalt. Its a nice car with a very peppy engine. I just dont like chevy, super cheap and super unreliable. I cant say anything about the GTI or the SI. But I truly think they hammered the tC a little. Its a great car.
Your a fucking tard dude, im not saying its a fucking race car.. you obviously didnt read what i said its a quick fun little car and a hell of a value forthe money. Keep thinking your honda civics are untouchable riceboy.
That shitwagon they call a cobalt shouldnt even be in this comp. The TC is the best value on the road period. That should be number 1. I think the stock tc even without the s/c will run with a SI. I like the SI as well but the tc has it beat imo.
It is a sh*tbox overweight Toyota Camry slightly downsized. It is heavy as f*ck at 3000 lbs.
SI r*pes the TC, which cannot even outrun a Mazda 3. I have seen it with my own eyes.
Calling TC a sport compact is like calling horse a duck. It is one of the most boring, bland and horrible car I have ever driven. Not to mention it is slow as f*ck!
Wow dude you have some issues. What do you drive your moms mini van? Tc has more torque than the civic, it comes stock with more features than any of them cars and for the price you cant beat it. The civic and mazda are nice too. Like my comment said the cobals a fucking shitbox. You are a homo, drive a cobalt so your cars as queer as you.
Your comments were retarded like you are a dumbf*ck! I have driven a TC and it drives like a 2 door slightly small Camry. It is heavy as f*ck at 3000 lbs!
SI is high revving so it does not need torque to be fast. It has a race-driven engine and not a econo sh*tbox Camry engine. It uses gearing and high rpm power to be fast.
I have driven an SI. An SI r*pes TC all day long. You don not have to go far and look at how even a supercharged TC gets r*ped by a RSX-S with only intake/exhaust.
If you want to look at amazing Toyota sport compact, look at 2ZZ-GE Celica GTS and Corolla XRS. Both of these cars r*pe the TC all day long with extremely light weight (2550 - 2650 lbs), 6 speed manuals and 180 HP high-revving engines and 8400 rpm redlines.
dude i have so seen stock tCs keep up with SI's. its here on youtube dumbass. just type in tc vs si. The new Si's are heavy as fuck compared to the older ones. they are nice and all but the tc can keep up with the Si's. with light mods the tC can beat an Si. i have seen it down. again here on youtube.
the only car that did not have any add ons...like supercharge or turbo....was the civic si....ad still, manage to hit 2nd place, just a few points behing the GTi.........thats what i call balls......for all you haters outthere........civic rules, that proves to you, that huge power doesnt translate to better....its what u do wit wat u have, that makes the difference......
well i don't really like any of them cars they were comparing and i thought the scion was the best looking. im a nissan fan and like the sentra spec v but to be honest im not much into picket rockets that much at all. the cobalt ss aint bad and i don't like the civic si or the gti so but i just like the way the tC looks.
ehhh i'd rather have the scion, who care if the shifter is too high just get a aftermarket short shift kit, lower it with some nice tires and it'd probably beat most of the competition.
What about the MAZDASPEED3??? WTF? $23k LOADED, 263 HP and 280 ft-lbs torque and not mentioned? How much is the GTI loaded? GTI sounds expensive but has best tranny. MPG=28-30 for MS3. Cobalt feels cheap, Honda feels weird and sterile design like Star Trek. Overall for the money, MS3!
FUCK THIS.... THE SCION TC. IS WORTH ABOUT 17,000 THE Civic Si like 21,000 the chevy cobalt like 20,000 no wonder the fucking Civic won best.. Tc Will be a challenge to the Gay ass Civic And Cobalt.... The Tc Was made for buyers that want to customise!!!!!!!!!!!! so lets hear good things about the t.c
I would like an update with the new Cobalt SS Turbo. It flat out would win IMO. I also think the GTI and MS3 are pretty good alternatives for value/performance.
I own a 07 Si. I think All of these cars are great except for the TC. The way I look at it is that SI is quality, SS is performance and GTI is a little bit of both.
eh dont kno why they would compare a SS colbalt and GTI vw with stock SI and tC.
They shouldeve js done the test with a stock colbalt and vw to the si and tc. tC isnt meant for racing right out of the factory, other cars are somewhat tuned for racing, like the si,gti and ss colbat. kinda dumb comparing a plain tc with only a s/c with no tuned suspensions to other "tuned" factory cars.
id go with the chevy cobalt ss or the vw gti, but the ss version runs best on premium. i dont wanna pay too much for gas. i probably get the new lancer gts.
what!!! how did the cobalt ss get third?!! id take the chevy any day over those other pieces of crap its interior is the best looking well it just the best in everything!!
I disagree I just got a 2008 Scion tc for my 17th birthday and its the hottest thing on the block its fast looks good and its great on gas
2013Sammy 4 days ago
Si FTW!
NemesisSypheroth 4 months ago
So the cobalt was awesome in every way except they don't like the interior... so its in third?? everyone likes the interior of my cobalt...
LOGIC42369 8 months ago
meh i'd take the cobalt ss over all
NissanTy 8 months ago
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFTT NO CREDIBILTY!!
AGuitarNinja 9 months ago
The things they don't factor into these reviews are base price, price to repair and insure. I looked into buying the GTI and the SI before purchasing my SS. Those two were just far too much money. The GTI was almost 7k more than the Cobalt and the price to insure it was outrageous. And the price of replacement parts for any German car is crazy. Same for the SI (minus replacing parts). I like both cars, but best bang for your buck is the Cobalt.
TheRogueSS 9 months ago
hahahaha TC is the most handsome car out of the 4!!!
leirocks1 9 months ago
my saturn beat a grand am gt and a tc...just saying
kikixklan 9 months ago
@kikixklan saturn what?ion redline?
kirbyswarp 9 months ago
@kirbyswarp mmm naaah just a s series with bolt-ons
kikixklan 9 months ago
@kikixklan they must be lousy drivers mate..
leirocks1 9 months ago
@kikixklan they must be lousy drivers mate..
leirocks1 9 months ago
@leirocks1 well the TC guy is a friend of mine and we raced many times, we even swaped cars to se if it was the driver but it was about the same result. The scion is quite heavy in comparison with a little plastic paneled twin cam.
kikixklan 9 months ago
What are you guys arguying about ???, they just sayd it in the video VOLK GTI FTW!!!
Charette212 10 months ago
But ricer's MUST HAVE THE V-TEC!
randomdude5640 10 months ago
2011 TC ALL DAY
CHINWITCH94 10 months ago
cobalt >si
zerosk8ter9 10 months ago 6
Si FTW
Mindzinsuk 11 months ago
...the exhaust note had a NICE raspyness to it? Uhhhh, excuse me? I just threw out this whole test because of that one comment.
lynchburgcsi57 11 months ago
wow i've never heard anyone pronounce vague, veg before. 1:17
camaroman101 1 year ago
CAVALIER WINS HANDS DOWN !
carcajoo 1 year ago
the tc has the best stereo, the best options, not to mention the glass ceiling.
stealthcorvette 1 year ago
gti whould get killed by the cobalt! the cobalt was the only car with leather!
srt4andcobaltss16 1 year ago
i don't get why they hate da spoiler on the ss i think it makes it look complete its not to high or not to low it's a perfect spoiler for the car and it completes its look
wereallclowns 1 year ago
Mazda 3 could deffentaly beat the GTI
italiankilla58 1 year ago
yes the gti is the best no doubt but it will break down alot more than the rest even the cobalt
gvermonter 1 year ago
yes the gti is good but it will break down alot more than the rest even the cobalt
gvermonter 1 year ago
add the mazda speed3 into the contest, and surely that would beat the GTi.
SilentAssassin 1 year ago
What everyone forgets is that if you put the money into the Tc to upgrade it, it would kick the sh*t out of any of those cars and cost the same as them.
baseballmanrg 1 year ago
@baseballmanrg But not at all, your price will rocket with aftermarket or TRD parts, the GTI has the greatest top end but the Civic Si has the quickest 0-60 time of 5.9 seconds. Tc was in the mid to high 6's. But the 8k redline in the Si is the highest reving engine in group, most redline at 6k to 6.5k (gross).
boogaman606 1 year ago
@boogaman606 Si is 6.9, even the new ones- while the new cobalt ss turbo is 5.7.(Both tests by edmunds inside line)
kirbyswarp 9 months ago
GTI all the way!!!!!
87PowerMan 1 year ago
Cobalt all the way... the new ones blow these out of the water anyway
krackkilla2 1 year ago
to bad they didnt have the turbo charged ss lol.
perdedor3571 1 year ago
The TC is crap - I cannot think of a worse sport compact. It is slow (especially without the supercharger), handles poorly and has a horrible interior. It is the joke of the sport compact world.
Snaab92 1 year ago
@Snaab92 fuck honda
stealthcorvette 1 year ago
german junk wins smh
cletedawgthewalmart 1 year ago
honda SI definitely wins!
zacheryds 1 year ago
@zacheryds lol the guy was right about it needing some FI...the torque is terribly disappointing on it
igottmituns 1 year ago
I would by my Si over and over again before going to the GTI
desimunda116 1 year ago
FUCK THE GTI...The SS and Si should have been placed higher..but w.e
godsephro 1 year ago
They made a big mistake in the video. The Tc they messed up on, the shift knob they used was for automatic tc's and they only put a super charger in but no other TRD parts. so of course the car didnt perform well because none of the stock parts could perform with the TRD engine. If they put all the parts in, this car would be #1
royalxchaos9 1 year ago
I own a corolla xrs 09 and it sucks when it comes to performance ! It's just a good car ! I did some track days with it and it sucks more........ my AE86 is still a way better car than that ! V6 engine, MR, RWD or 4WD = Real sport car ! Go check the Corolla APR GT ( Super GT ) Now thats a HOT car ;)
Hellyuki 1 year ago
scion tc is the best looking in my opinion
Karpinski29 1 year ago
Bla blah. Spend the same on the civic and it would wipe them all. You are a dumbass, and scions are dogs. And gti's are hideous.
palefaced1 1 year ago
the TC, after all the TRD parts will only be slightly more($) then all the compitition but it will wipe them all out,
masayuki245 1 year ago
man my cobalt has no problem taking on any of these cars on the track, it should have rank second in this one!
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JoshChadwick 1 year ago
@JoshChadwick doughtful, becuase yes the interior is cheap, but the one thing that was not made cheaply was the motor, stock motors are good for 500hp plus, which leads me to beleive that the motors will last the longest in these cars
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JoshChadwick 1 year ago
@JoshChadwick 500 is not bs, stage 6 kits run i think 450whp, and a twin charge kit runs ~400whp, so 500 on a stock motor is not hard to fathom, so i think the bolt is the best to mod because you have a good platform and a lot of "room" to upgrade
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JoshChadwick 1 year ago
@JoshChadwick even tho ford's focus rs is a 300hp fwd car, from the factory. and why wouldn't you want that!
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JoshChadwick 1 year ago
The TC is a joke compared to the competition.
XenomorphLV426 1 year ago
the GTI is the best car i've driven so far. but i agree, power is kind of dull for this car. But, with proper tune, this car can say bye bye to M3's and M5's.
jonray74 2 years ago
Hhj
MrYOUNGSAINT 2 years ago
I will 2nd the winning decision. I miss my 06 MKV GTI 6 speed manual in white. That was the most fun car I've ever owned. Too bad my wife hated it and I bought it without telling her. Short lived glory.
MrStclairm 2 years ago
Once again GTI named in Car and Drivers top 10 Cars of 2010!!!
juvechii 2 years ago
lol lets be real ppl for the price of a used 06tc 12k u can build it done no more to talk about new si=20k gti=21k ss=23k tC=18k
dcin1 2 years ago
@dcin1 dood i can go into chevy and buy a new ss for 19k. where you get 23k from?
perdedor3571 1 year ago
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bibi1918 2 years ago
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bibi1918 2 years ago
a factory turbo for the si?! that makes me wonder.
vtectilligetmoney 2 years ago
so what the god damn shifter knob was to high on the scion its a 2dr japanese car its not perfect dumbass
randomhero713 2 years ago
Good old WHO? LOL~!!!
urkingod 2 years ago
The Civic Si needs a K24. Even an NA one would be ok because it would get more tourqe and at 100hp per liter they might get 240hp though even 220 would be ok. Once you put bolt ons it would get 30more hp so there you go
MaddDogg81 2 years ago
Bolt ons will not give you 30 HP on a K24. An intake might be 4-5, an exhaust 6-7, and headers maybe 3-5. You're looking at about 13-20, and 20 would be on a GOOD day.
MassiveLemon 2 years ago
K20 rules. I have a turbo RSX and it's damn fast
MaddDogg81 2 years ago
Anyone who doubts the GTI should first drive it and then talk. I had my doubts too because the GTI doesnt look the best on paper. Once you're inside however it just feels like a well engineered German car. The SI engine sounds like it has 400hp but in reality a large SUV would probably smoke it. GTI should not be in this comparison the SI/TC/SS are all plastic and for 16 yr olds who own all four Fast and the Furious dvds
juvechii 2 years ago
vw are for girls! period, didnt you here bad performance in braking, cornering and mpg, looks nice but looks isnt everything.
dc52002 2 years ago
yea youre right i mean its only been placed in car and driver 10 best cars three times in past 5 years how did that happen?? and ive never in my life seen a woman drive a gti so idk what ur talking about? The only car that (sometimes) beats out GTI in comparison is mazdaspeed 3 bc it has 63 more hp and stiffer suspension but has a cheap interior. it comes down to what you prefer refinement or performance GTI or MS3. anyone over 18 should not drive a SI/TC/SS/WRX
juvechii 2 years ago
never first, but [}{]ondas have been first, and then again vw are not relaible cars, thats why they almost never win and not recomended as a best buy.
dc52002 2 years ago
its obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about bc you sound like youre repeating what your dad told you. cheaper VWs like Jettas and Beetles are assembled in Mexico and sometimes have electrical problems but never engine. Hondas are very reliable bc its simple engineering nothing advanced. Honda wont have dual clutch trans for another 5 yrs probably. The GTI is recommended (in every single magazine) and once again is in 10 best cars its just a fact im sorry not just my opinion
juvechii 2 years ago
what i say is because i read it, and yes honda will have dual clutch eventualy, but is not necesary at this moment, gti's are cheap too, dont care what kind of problem is either electrical, motor or transmision still is a car not relaible regardless from where it was made, hondas are where ever they come from.
dc52002 2 years ago
ok whats your point? Hyundai is more reliable than Mercedes too. a 1997 civic is probably more reliable than a 2009 Porsche i guarantee you that. Japanese cars are just a cheaper version of German cars. Lexus ISF is just a wannabe M3. Infiniti G its just a wannabe bmw 3series. a german car will always be more expensive than japanese car even if it has less power. and GTI is not cheap compared to a Civic its at minimum a 5k difference which is alot when youre talking about this price range
juvechii 2 years ago
Nobody under 18 should be able to afford a SI/TC/SS/WRX.
P51mustang00 2 years ago
The speed3 is nice but suffers from to much torque steer.
TCB1468 1 year ago
Honda finished second with all of them having superchargers and turbos. Honda only has V-tech and they could stand with the best of them. Honda is the best. What's up with the commentator talking about 10 year old hondas with tin can exhausts? Those are the cars that started it all. Fucking asshole!
gallero760 2 years ago
please dont say "V-tech" that is so annyoing, Vtech is a freaking electronic company that makes phones and toys for babies. its Vtec, plain and simple. and the Si has i-Vtec way different than good old Vtec last time i read. but what i dont understand is why did a 1.8l Vtec engine produce more than 100hp/l in the US market when i-Vtec doesnt? they have the 2.0l 224hp type r JDM civic, bring that over here, and put it against these cars. no doubt it would kill. this coming from a tC owner too.
unresolved777 2 years ago 4
what i love about this is the civic is N/A and everything else isnt and it got 2nd! o and notice all the negatives for the GTI?
SI>GTI>SS S/C>TC
gcandsp222 2 years ago
have u rode in a k20 car?..civic si or rsx type s....they haul....im talking some SERIOUS ass...for stock 4 cylinders.....its beyond impressive
coandcaiv 2 years ago
i own a civic si
gcandsp222 2 years ago
no wonder the GTI beat the tc and the ss.... turbo's are better that s/c's any day..
allanon3340 2 years ago
uhh.. u forgot to mention the SI but ok
Sevs67 2 years ago
Hmmm, Just bought my TRD Supercharger for $1900 and installed it myself. Couldn't be happier with it. And just to correct Terrel, SC tC =200 WHEEL horsepower thats like 225-230 to the flywheel.
FekalMatters 2 years ago
yeah apparently toyota underrated the superchargers power.but $1900 is good, should've saved up more for a turbo, many have had problems with the S/C, some have gone through 3 S/C's.
unresolved777 2 years ago
5kmi after I installed the sc my tranny blew. It happened to be factory defects that caught up with it at 46kmi. They told me if I went turbo it would have cost me $5225 for the new tranny. Since I went sc and even installed it myself they still covered it under powertrain warranty. Ended up paying $100 for them to install a fidanza flywheel and stage 2 clutch while they were in there and $0 for the new tranny and it's install. Pretty happy I went s/c. Warranties save lives.
FekalMatters 2 years ago
i asked about the optional supercharger for my 07 tc it was 6,200 installed STUPID ....GO TURBO
DEZUZD 2 years ago
Is the Scion tC really considered to be compact? I thought it was a Mid-size, but then again I'm an idiot so I might be wrong.
vernong1992 2 years ago
nah it was always considered a compact car
Terell187 2 years ago
wtf SINCE WHEN ARE TC"S SUPERCHARGED 0:50
EDISONHOCKEY 2 years ago
since TRD released the supercharger back in 05. now they discontinued it so they dont make the supercharger anymore. please tel me you know about turbo tC's cuz both have been around for a while now.
unresolved777 2 years ago
the supercharger was optional, and they probably only installed the trd supedcharger on the tc so the car it self wouldn't be underpowered for this test with these cars that put out around 200 hp. a stock tc is 160 hp
Terell187 2 years ago
Well look at that. The GTI wins again. Ha someday you guys will learn whats a real car is like.
MarkMark6464 2 years ago
FUCK THEM MY TC KICKS ASS
DEZUZD 2 years ago 21
agreed
Terell187 2 years ago 2
@DEZUZD your foolish to think that
willneverstop 1 year ago
@DEZUZD ummmm my 19999 grand am gt with 145,000 miles smoked a tc
kirbyswarp 10 months ago
@DEZUZD 1999 not 19999
kirbyswarp 10 months ago
@DEZUZD yes!
1986flawlys 9 months ago
@DEZUZD ya i agree
IgOrEcK24 6 months ago
i dont agree with this video at all
highlownigga973 2 years ago 16
gti ftw. i was able to predict the exact outcome of this comparison even before i watched it.
it's the only small performance car to consider.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
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EpiDemic117 2 years ago
because they always lose
musicISlyf1 2 years ago
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EpiDemic117 2 years ago
I cant believe they had the tC last. I own one, the gear ratio sucks yes. But the braking and handling are great I think. I have driven only the SS cobalt. Its a nice car with a very peppy engine. I just dont like chevy, super cheap and super unreliable. I cant say anything about the GTI or the SI. But I truly think they hammered the tC a little. Its a great car.
kdmysterio6259 2 years ago
I'm surprised they didn't get the tc with a trd short shifter and suspension.
istinkbot 2 years ago
Your a fucking tard dude, im not saying its a fucking race car.. you obviously didnt read what i said its a quick fun little car and a hell of a value forthe money. Keep thinking your honda civics are untouchable riceboy.
nismo4x405 3 years ago
That shitwagon they call a cobalt shouldnt even be in this comp. The TC is the best value on the road period. That should be number 1. I think the stock tc even without the s/c will run with a SI. I like the SI as well but the tc has it beat imo.
nismo4x405 3 years ago
It is a sh*tbox overweight Toyota Camry slightly downsized. It is heavy as f*ck at 3000 lbs.
SI r*pes the TC, which cannot even outrun a Mazda 3. I have seen it with my own eyes.
Calling TC a sport compact is like calling horse a duck. It is one of the most boring, bland and horrible car I have ever driven. Not to mention it is slow as f*ck!
SpeedKlz 3 years ago
Wow dude you have some issues. What do you drive your moms mini van? Tc has more torque than the civic, it comes stock with more features than any of them cars and for the price you cant beat it. The civic and mazda are nice too. Like my comment said the cobals a fucking shitbox. You are a homo, drive a cobalt so your cars as queer as you.
nismo4x405 3 years ago
Your comments were retarded like you are a dumbf*ck! I have driven a TC and it drives like a 2 door slightly small Camry. It is heavy as f*ck at 3000 lbs!
SI is high revving so it does not need torque to be fast. It has a race-driven engine and not a econo sh*tbox Camry engine. It uses gearing and high rpm power to be fast.
I have driven an SI. An SI r*pes TC all day long. You don not have to go far and look at how even a supercharged TC gets r*ped by a RSX-S with only intake/exhaust.
SpeedKlz 3 years ago
If you want to look at amazing Toyota sport compact, look at 2ZZ-GE Celica GTS and Corolla XRS. Both of these cars r*pe the TC all day long with extremely light weight (2550 - 2650 lbs), 6 speed manuals and 180 HP high-revving engines and 8400 rpm redlines.
SpeedKlz 3 years ago
dude i have so seen stock tCs keep up with SI's. its here on youtube dumbass. just type in tc vs si. The new Si's are heavy as fuck compared to the older ones. they are nice and all but the tc can keep up with the Si's. with light mods the tC can beat an Si. i have seen it down. again here on youtube.
kdmysterio6259 2 years ago 3
the only car that did not have any add ons...like supercharge or turbo....was the civic si....ad still, manage to hit 2nd place, just a few points behing the GTi.........thats what i call balls......for all you haters outthere........civic rules, that proves to you, that huge power doesnt translate to better....its what u do wit wat u have, that makes the difference......
07SiPOWER 3 years ago
well i don't really like any of them cars they were comparing and i thought the scion was the best looking. im a nissan fan and like the sentra spec v but to be honest im not much into picket rockets that much at all. the cobalt ss aint bad and i don't like the civic si or the gti so but i just like the way the tC looks.
NissanTy 3 years ago
ehhh i'd rather have the scion, who care if the shifter is too high just get a aftermarket short shift kit, lower it with some nice tires and it'd probably beat most of the competition.
NissanTy 3 years ago
hahahaha. Fucking fanboy. It was the WORST of them ALL and you still want one. Fucking idiot!
FagSlayer69 3 years ago
i would get either the cobalt or the civic
alexbishop94 3 years ago
What about the MAZDASPEED3??? WTF? $23k LOADED, 263 HP and 280 ft-lbs torque and not mentioned? How much is the GTI loaded? GTI sounds expensive but has best tranny. MPG=28-30 for MS3. Cobalt feels cheap, Honda feels weird and sterile design like Star Trek. Overall for the money, MS3!
tigercrap 3 years ago
Nobody likes them...
Onimun 3 years ago
GTI FOR THE WIN!!!!!
javdan23 3 years ago 2
So let me get this straight, the interiors was the major deciding factor in this comparison?
piwright42 3 years ago
FUCK THIS.... THE SCION TC. IS WORTH ABOUT 17,000 THE Civic Si like 21,000 the chevy cobalt like 20,000 no wonder the fucking Civic won best.. Tc Will be a challenge to the Gay ass Civic And Cobalt.... The Tc Was made for buyers that want to customise!!!!!!!!!!!! so lets hear good things about the t.c
HOTMAN8912 3 years ago
You don't hear any good things about tCs, because there are no good things about tCs.
FagSlayer69 3 years ago
this isnt compared right the gti is alot more expensive than all of them and the tc is the least but the tc would definitley would beat the cobalt
JaBunGa23 3 years ago
the tc is not in the same price range as these cars and the supercharger is way too expensive for small gains.
put the tc against similar priced cars and it will pwn.
new cobalt ss will smash btw
athletefeet66 3 years ago
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i have a 2000 civic si and it is better than these 4 at anything
afuegocalle13 3 years ago
lmao
jfizz313 3 years ago
I would like an update with the new Cobalt SS Turbo. It flat out would win IMO. I also think the GTI and MS3 are pretty good alternatives for value/performance.
Landmantx 3 years ago
okay youre aye fuckin idiot!
the ss turbo is going to be wayy more than all
these cars plus gm sucks
xavieralanizbaby 3 years ago 2
I own a 07 Si. I think All of these cars are great except for the TC. The way I look at it is that SI is quality, SS is performance and GTI is a little bit of both.
Harlingen78 3 years ago
gti is shit worst gas efficiency and not good on the corners why would it get first place check out edmunds civic is first....always...
adrean85si 3 years ago
GTI RULES!!!!!! GERMAN ENGINEERING. in da house
wolfsburghome 3 years ago
eh dont kno why they would compare a SS colbalt and GTI vw with stock SI and tC.
They shouldeve js done the test with a stock colbalt and vw to the si and tc. tC isnt meant for racing right out of the factory, other cars are somewhat tuned for racing, like the si,gti and ss colbat. kinda dumb comparing a plain tc with only a s/c with no tuned suspensions to other "tuned" factory cars.
jaysong87 3 years ago
id go with the chevy cobalt ss or the vw gti, but the ss version runs best on premium. i dont wanna pay too much for gas. i probably get the new lancer gts.
FLip8822 3 years ago
CHEVROLET ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!!!!
blacksabbathrocks234 3 years ago
lol..to bad it didnt win :P...GM once again let something great slip by them, by not using quality parts that hold up
coandcaiv 3 years ago
hahahahahha the focus blows that why it wasnt in the running
blacksabbathrocks234 3 years ago
what!!! how did the cobalt ss get third?!! id take the chevy any day over those other pieces of crap its interior is the best looking well it just the best in everything!!
blacksabbathrocks234 3 years ago
You mentioned only bad things about the tC. :P
ScionT2B 3 years ago
how did the gti win? Those are the ugliest seats in history.
luderlm 3 years ago
If Ford Focus ST is in this line up, things can get really confusing, he he he...
Akshole 3 years ago