@SamuraiClinton Whoa. Now this is a great idea. Seriously. Like how some emulators emulate the sound of the floppy drive being read? Implement this for a keyboard and you've got a win.
@phreakindee well you see, this is what I am trying to address to you.
if you really want DOSBox to emulate the computer's noisy behavior, I think you should send an email to Sourceforge, or somebody involved with the project. I am a fanatic of DOS games myself.
I have a working example of one of these I had given to me several years back though I didn't have the CGA monitor but a commodore 1080 I had worked after I made a cable and you also can use an ISA VGA card as some will work in 8 bit mode.
But VGA cards are slow in XT class machines.
You also can find what's called a Hercules card for the mono monitor.
As for a keyboard anything XT/AT switchable will work.
BTW the first computer to be cloned was the Altair in a standard called S-100.
I was at a flea market once and a guy offered to sell me a working 5150 for three dollars with a keyboard and monitor. Me being a stupid teenager, and not really knowing what I would do with it, I turned it down. Probably not one of my better decisions. :/
Also. LMFAO! @6:38 I used to have an old Apple II 1980's Computer with a CRT Green Monitor that had 2 floppy disk drives. Along with a bulky printer. I had a small handful of games for it. One of which I remember being "Chess". I'm more of a PC person though.
0:26 "This is the IBM 5150" that moment was so dramatic, I had to check if the sealing whether it is ready to fall on me. 20 $ ? I'm gonna take a trip to America and seriously violate you for that! Great review btw...
@MyNameIsBucket A 5150 with a hard drive? That is awesome, they normally weren't able to support them, only the XT onward had full support from the factory.
@phreakindee I have something very similar. It has a hard drive (with an add on card controller of course). I would love to play around with it but 10 minutes into playing around with DOS the monitor started smoking and shooting sparks out of it. It wasn't an original screen either, some samsung black and white (really black and orange) screen. It doesn't have an ibm keyboard either. I'm considering getting both online because it is really cool to see such old equipment in action.
@MrJoe915 As mentioned in the video, the NEC V20 was indeed a popular upgrade for the machine. A V25 may work as well, since it's a microcontroller version of the V20. The V30 is pin compatible with the 8086, but not the 8088 as far as I know.
@phreakindee Hey its me again. Its been several months and I want to know if you ever did a review of the BBC micro. You told me you'd do one on that comp and the Atari ST. I saw the Atari St vid and it was great but i'm still waiting for the BBC one. PEACE!
@phreakindee Hi I was at my grandparents house and I found a keyboard, cd drive, monitor, and a bunch of 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 IBM commpatible floppies but no system. I want to know what kind of system I should get so I can look at all the stuff on the floppies and everything.
@CaptainPoovabladoo It is, yes. Although not a monitor like the 5151 by IBM, since that only works on monochrome graphics cards. You can use the composite video output from the CGA card and hook it up to a composite monochrome display. It looks awesome seeing CGA in green monochrome!
Hi today i bought a ibm 5150 for $20. However its missing 1 of the floppy drives and the hard drive. It has a vga monitor and a ibm keyboard. I wanted to know what i should do get get it up and running cheaply. I also want to know how much its worth. Please Respond Thanks!!!
You couldn't be more right about an emulator just not give you the experience of the actual 5150. My IBM PC XT 5160 is close enough for me, though, especially since being a later model it has 640k mounted on the motherboard and, wonder of wonders, it came with an AT compatible Model M keyboard that I can use on pretty much any PC I choose.
What's kinda weird I've been dragged dragging that old PC around with me for years.. moving from place to place, and then a few years ago I decided to finally just get ride of it... hard drive was dead, and the unit was a little dirty but still powered up fine. So off to the dumpster it went along with my faithful Sysdyne CGA monitor.. now come to find out that the stupid thing is actually worth something on EBAY.. who knew, LOL.
My friend and I got a copy protection copying board that did exact disk to disk copies that would override most of the copy protection schemes back in the day.. can't remember the name of the board now though. We played a LOT of games back in the day, even on that old hardware.. I remember Wizardry and the original Lesuire suit Larry series.. (don't tell me you forgot the jet pack).. famous line form the cheat book for that game... Some of you might remember..
Of course the modem wasn't for connecting to the internet, was for dialing into BBS the were still local calls. Man those were the days.. When I added the hard drive I remember had to be careful finding a hard drive because the original power supply was only 63.5 watts, the XT came with a larger power supply. The RLL encoded harddrives at the time took less power so that's what we used (big old seagate drive). I remember the copy protection too back then...
Later added my 24 pin dot matrix printer, (800 bucks).. 3.5" floppy drive, mouse, 40 meg RLL 5.25 hard drive.. (basically made it a XT).. WOW.. now that was stuff back then. When that hard drive was running it felt like a powerful machine, LOL. I still remember formatting the hard drive when you had to enter the factory tested bad blocks into the bios of the hard drive controller so the OS wouldn't use those blocks during operation. Oh, then later I added 1200 baud modem! cool
Wow.. that really brings back memories... My first PC was the 5150.. My best friend in high school was the computer geek if there was such a thing in 1985.. We bough two identical configurations. They were loaded.. although we didn't opt for the EGA display's as they were like 600 bucks at the time.. so we went with CGA.. 16 colors but only 4 colors could be displayed at one time. 386k AST all in wonder card.. Not one but 2 360k floppy controllers.. (big deal at the time).
Despite growing up in the modern generation where the name "Call of Duty" would make my peers pull out their mother's credit cards, I prefer MS-DOS, and the many awesome games & apps for it.
While Notepad makes simple .txt files, I coded a .bat script in a MS-DOS text editor.
It would overload the RAM, and freeze up the computer, forcing the user to pull the plug on it (Seriously, you had to unplug it to shut it off).
I deleted it when I tested it in DOSBox, and froze up my iBook.
you can also get an 8 bit ISA VGA card to put in this machine. I have a 5150 myself, but mine has a Hercules compatible card. I want to get a VGA card...they are on ebay. my 5150 is actually in a storage unit right now though :( a VGA card would also be compatible with EGA games. :)
@exposed97 VH's album didn't drop until 1986, five years after the IBM 5150 ;)
Although if anyone's curious: 5150, the album, was named after Van Halen's studio, which itself was named for a California police term for a mentally disturbed person.
It is very awesome, no question. They charge though well over several hundred for a good example on eBay. So I want for a cheaper alternative, the Apple Macintosh.
Very lovely analysis of one of the original ancestors to modern PCs... I personally have a PC/AT which actually gets some use for hobbyist hardware programming. I would eventually like to build my own ISA card as well (which amazingly enough is feasible to do).
Just got 4 old clone pc's. Although they are not brand pc's, there is an interesting XT8088 included. Just misses a keyboard. Upgrades my collection a bit. If you like to chat about your collection. Let me know.
Do you want a big performance boost in your pc games?
You should overclock your graphics card. You just need to tweak some simple settings, and you will get a huge boost in the quality, and the speed of your games! Get the guide which tells you how to do it, 100% free, 100% safe from:
I found one program that NEEDS that 640k ram add-on (board).
wolfenstein 3D. I am not lying.
if I'm right and this is a 286 computer, than using an add-on board to get 640k of ram would give you the minimum system requirements for wolfenstein 3D.
so awesome yet so useless even back then as it ran horribly and was monochrome on the standard monitor.
@hobocamptheater That IBM 5170 (AT) would be the minimum for Wolf3D. Sadly, it wouldn't run on this 5150! I still really would love to get an AT, and when I do I will try it out!
@phreakindee Someone modded the "now open sourcce" Wolf3D Sourcecode so that it doesn't need an 80286 anymore and so it can run on the 8088, which is used on the 5150. See /watch?v=5f7gW5X24ao
LOl love the impression part " This the keyboard " geek looks at the graphic card" haha...son of bitch why the hell its so big " LOL! i loled so hard in the gut almost hurt my stomach laughing to much rofl
I LIKE YOUR VIDEO. YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB EXPLAINING THE 5150! ISN'T IT NICE OF MY FRIEND AT{ IBM5150.NET} TO POST THE COMMERCIALS SO YOU COULD USE THEM ON YOUR VIDEO? THIS IS AWESOME! ;-)
@MixerVM 5150 PC - 30 pounds. Keyboard - 6 pounds. Monitor - 20 pounds. Total - 56 pounds. Throw in a printer (13 pounds) and you have 69 pounds. Toss in a beer and you've got 70 :D
@phreakindee woah 6 pound keyboard lol. my 17 inch laptop doesnt even weigh that much! thats amazing how far weve come. and great analogy about the car thing i can relate lol
@MixerVM Not really, no. Old PCs were freaking stupidly heavy, they were made with steel and were a whole lot bigger than modern PCs. Old monitors were smaller than later monitors, hence they weighed less than the PC.
@phreakindee 20 pounds for a monitor is quite low compared to high-end montiors from about 2000. Actually I own a 22" CRT, which weights 69 pounds. But 20 pounds for teh PC itself is quite high, most modern perbuilt midi tower PCs weight about 13-18 pounds, but gaming-PCs often use bigger cases an weight considerably more.
A local company bought a bunch of IBM PC 5150 cases, and put new motherboards (486) in them. They called their brand BMI. I wish I'd bought one when I had the chance.
Do you want a big performance boost in your pc games?
You should overclock your graphics card. You just need to tweak some simple settings, and you will get a huge boost in the quality, and the speed of your games! Get the guide which tells you how to do it, 100% free, 100% safe from:
8:54 OMG, do you realize that Vanna White is STILL turning letters? I remember eating dinner in front of the TV as a teenager watching that show. Now I have a 10 year old who knows who she is. I'm going to press the Pause button now and stay 39 forever.
excellent video, I completely agree with your assessment! I have a 5150, but mine has a hercules graphics adapter and a 40 mb hard drive. (my dad and I added the 8 bit ISA IDE card in the early 90s when I was 12). I want to replace the hercules with an 8 bit isa VGA card, and put a CompactFlash in as a replacement for the HDD. But we'll see. it's a fun toy. :)
Do you want a big performance boost in your pc games?
You should overclock your graphics card. You just need to tweak some simple settings, and you will get a huge boost in the quality, and the speed of your games! Get the guide which tells you how to do it, 100% free, 100% safe from:
@farcher3 Sweet, I was not aware of that. A quick wiki search and that looks like a series I'd be interested in checking out. I also have an Osborne, I should totally get some James Burke cosplay going on.
@phreakindee yes, james burke is awesome, I highly recommend his books and tv series. not only the day the universe changed, but also "connections" is good. :)
Nice! I actually grew up with those same versions of Centipede and Arkanoid, albeit on a 286-based IBM PC. Centipede in particular was very, very fast, haha.
i used to make databases on those basterds... dbase programming if i remember, color screen though (AT) so yeah good old days, i was swept away like most with the consoles and didn't return to PC's until 94... sad but true.
@lemonrind A matter of opinion - I think they look great in their own way! But they were, and are, a very business-oriented company (International BUSINESS Machines, right?) so for them to have a somewhat lackluster and purely functional aesthetic to fall in line with their theme only makes sense.
Sorry to say but these reviews seem anything but lazy.
I don't care if you don't write a script you still have camera angles, editing takes together, voice recording, video recording, and maybe even research if you don't have all the components in mind.
I yeah not a real lazy review or reviews.
Thanks for the awesome review though once I start getting payed for work or get like a part time job I'm gonna start collecting some computers and stuff that you've reviewed, so thanks for that.
@Zelgadis020 Nope, no mouse! You can add one nowadays somewhat easily, but they didn't catch on in popularity until several years after the introduction of the PC.
@phreakindee Awesome! I wonder if I can get one here in mexico, its amazing that the ISA sound devices are huge, I still have one of those sound devices (not huge in size) its old but it still works great
I'm glad i discovered your channel, awesome reviews and beautiful computers. My girlfriend thinks my relationship with my vintage computers is a little inappropriate. I think you suffer from the same fetish :)
Please check out my vintage computer collection if you get a chance, found here: /watch?v=sQTYVxNq5kc
I completely agree with you on experiencing vintage systems with real hardware. Emulators are wonderful and serve a purpose. However, having the real deal on your desktop is almost always the best way to go. Unless you don't have the room or money to collect the original systems.
I got one of em in my grandpas basement, up in NY, I am in NC so its a drive. Complete with boxes of floppies, Color display, keyboard, even a mouse. Nice machine, sat for atleast 10+ years, I got bored one day when visiting and plugged it in. Turned right on and worked great. my dad got it for collage back in the day so its a single owner machine
I would never have bought that computer for games. Three thousand was too expensive. In 1981 you could have bought an Apple II, a TRS 80, or a Vic 20 with expansion cartridges for far less with better quality games. This was a very nice business machine. That's all it was.
Your reviews are interesting man good job..did you ever get any of the Amstrads by any chance or the Spectrum? that was sorta my first game system with games like Postman Pat, Looney Toons i think and Werewovles of London any tons of others but if you have it you think you can review it? if you already have sorry ill go have a look :)
@Johfunu I did a Speccy 48k review, you may have seen it by now. I don't yet have an Amstrad machine but am always hopeful to find one sometime, I'd love to review one.
I can't believe that you actually said that 640k was overkill for this machine unless you had it loaded with upgrades. Even a 5150 with 5 1/4 disks can run dos 6.22. There is no such thing as too much ram, remember that. Keep in mind that your PC on your desk is a glorified IBM 5150 and can most likely boot dos 3.3 and run dos software.
@christo930 The reason I said this is: from my experience, the majority of games I'd play on the 5150 do not require more than 384k. The ones that do also require a faster processor and/or higher-tier graphics to make the game playable. Apart from system use and office programs and utilities, I see no need for 640k for what I think a 5150 is best for - that is, programs made for an 8088 at 4.77mhz, mono/CGA graphics and <256k RAM
what you said about the keyboards has really got me thinking. I have this Old IBM clone that I got for free and a monitor and a random old keyboard that plugs in but it's one of the more newer keyboards with the same plug. could my IBM clone be having the same problem the old Real IBM's have with the newer keyboards? cause I'd really like to have this up and running everything seems to work fine and I'd like to finally use it. what do you think? wont buy one if it wont help.
@phreakindee well I been real busy with it last night and I found a keyboard that it liked, and I fixed that problem just to have the computer tell me it has to formate it's hard drive, now I am trying to find a old copy of dos, I got my hands on a dos 5 disc but it's formated to 1.2mb I don't know if this computer uses 360k or 1.2mb i stuck it in and it more less ignored it. and I tried another drive same thing. so I have my work cut out for me. I also might by a tandy 1000 not sure yet.
@DylanMayhew If you need some other versions of DOS in other disk formats, try the Vetusware website. They've got plenty.
And check back in a couple of weeks for a Tandy 1000 review, even if you haven't gotten one by then! It's a great machine and I'll be doing a full review
@phreakindee yeah my current problem is getting the files on the Floppy. I tried putting i tried to put a 5¼ floppy drive in my main pc and it kept saying there was no floppy in the drive when I had it set as a 1.2mb one and when I had it as a 360k drive it just gave a error... but I was trying this on a computer with a motherboard from 2007. and I have no clue what format my 5 ¼ drive uses. and I look forward to see your review for the tandy 1000! I will know if I am getting one tomorrow.
OK, the PC was an option for games if you had the money back then, but personally I think back then if you really wanted to play games with good graphics and sound, get an Atari VCS 2600 and some good games, please understand this is simply my opinion, if you want one of these that's fine if you're into that sort of thing.
@Lachlant1984 there were plenty of games available at the time for the IBM PC's, a lot of adventure games were in their prime like Monkeys Island, Police Quest, Kings Quest, Loom, and even games like prince of persia.
I had an XT, previously owned by Volkswagen of America that I bought in 1997. It came with everything. Even a printer. Did homework/spreadsheet/graphs on it for years till the 14 meg HD died. Awesome.
Don't forget, that IBM intended the PC to be a closed proprietary platform like everyone else. It was Compaq that made the first clone and opened the market for the x86 standard we still use today.
Man, this brings back memories.. I got rid of my old IBM Clone (Sperry (wierd brand given to me from my uncle in 1989, had apple iic before that)
The thing had 2 360k floopy drives, a 256k CGA card, 512k ram, 14" CGA monitor, 8088 8mhz cpu, and a stack of bible sized 3 ring manuals for everything. Even one on basic. I played Phantasie 1-3, lands of lore and the first 3 ultimas on it...oh how i hated that I couldn't get any of the Gold box games to work (damn 256 ram) -went to a 386sx svga 4mb
yes Damn! reel disks! they should start manufacturing 5inch floppies again.... I guess if there is enough demande they could start making them again? kinda like demand prompted some Gal to reverse-engeneer the c64?
Actually they never stopped! There are still quite a few legacy systems in use, especially in industrial settings, and companies like Athana still manufacture 5.25" and even 8" floppy disks. I've bought some from them myself, pretty wild to open brand new disks.
No, they've got single-sided, double-sided and high-density 5.25" disks, all the way back to 8" disks. They make them all, Commodore and IBM-compatible (maybe even Apply), up to the most modern 3.5" floppies.
its 70 pounds now thats a good paper weight
PotatoPieBros 2 days ago
I think the keyboard click sound effects should be included with future versions of DOSBox.
SamuraiClinton 3 days ago
@SamuraiClinton Whoa. Now this is a great idea. Seriously. Like how some emulators emulate the sound of the floppy drive being read? Implement this for a keyboard and you've got a win.
phreakindee 3 days ago
@phreakindee well you see, this is what I am trying to address to you.
if you really want DOSBox to emulate the computer's noisy behavior, I think you should send an email to Sourceforge, or somebody involved with the project. I am a fanatic of DOS games myself.
SamuraiClinton 3 days ago
One of these days, I think some gaming PC firms should make "retro-style" gaming PCs that borrow styling cues from the original 5150.
SamuraiClinton 3 days ago
They do not go under £100 here in the UK.
TheEPROM9 5 days ago
I wanna be a kid again! I HATE COMPUTERS TODAY! Any git uses them today!
latuman 5 days ago
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I have a working example of one of these I had given to me several years back though I didn't have the CGA monitor but a commodore 1080 I had worked after I made a cable and you also can use an ISA VGA card as some will work in 8 bit mode.
But VGA cards are slow in XT class machines.
You also can find what's called a Hercules card for the mono monitor.
As for a keyboard anything XT/AT switchable will work.
BTW the first computer to be cloned was the Altair in a standard called S-100.
Membrane556 1 week ago
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Membrane556 1 week ago
Alley cat.... what a game :D
Lukeno52 1 week ago
Long live Dig Dug! - 6:20
KASPLARFO 1 month ago
I was at a flea market once and a guy offered to sell me a working 5150 for three dollars with a keyboard and monitor. Me being a stupid teenager, and not really knowing what I would do with it, I turned it down. Probably not one of my better decisions. :/
RandomUploader90 1 month ago
@RandomUploader90 It probably didn't work anyways..
RSLMecha 4 days ago
that monitor looks like a badly made microwave
nannynicky4life 1 month ago
Also. LMFAO! @6:38 I used to have an old Apple II 1980's Computer with a CRT Green Monitor that had 2 floppy disk drives. Along with a bulky printer. I had a small handful of games for it. One of which I remember being "Chess". I'm more of a PC person though.
Paul68595 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
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james120ize 1 month ago
LMFAO! @4:05
Paul68595 1 month ago
The clunky PC that started it all!
gdm413229 2 months ago
0:26 "This is the IBM 5150" that moment was so dramatic, I had to check if the sealing whether it is ready to fall on me. 20 $ ? I'm gonna take a trip to America and seriously violate you for that! Great review btw...
Szederp 2 months ago
one of the best looking computers ever. shame I cant find one that won't cost my liver or kidneys...
xxXCalculatorXxx 2 months ago
@xxXCalculatorXxx Get the AT instead. Similar look, but with better specs, and it's somewhat cheaper.
TeamRocketReviews 3 days ago
The music sounds like Laserdance
Serpico261 2 months ago
Man your video make me laugh an drelax. I watch it evey night in bed before sleep. KEEP GOING!!! :)
wexoni 2 months ago
Thanks for sharing. I love your videos.
bryantgyt 3 months ago
MITS made the Altair 8800, not Altair. :)
gp75motorsports 3 months ago
Sweet, my dad just gave me his old 5150 the other day. It's maxed out at 640k of RAM with a 10MB HDD and a Hercules graphics card!
MyNameIsBucket 3 months ago
@MyNameIsBucket A 5150 with a hard drive? That is awesome, they normally weren't able to support them, only the XT onward had full support from the factory.
phreakindee 3 months ago
@phreakindee Nah, we upgraded most of the parts ourselves.
MyNameIsBucket 3 months ago
@phreakindee I have something very similar. It has a hard drive (with an add on card controller of course). I would love to play around with it but 10 minutes into playing around with DOS the monitor started smoking and shooting sparks out of it. It wasn't an original screen either, some samsung black and white (really black and orange) screen. It doesn't have an ibm keyboard either. I'm considering getting both online because it is really cool to see such old equipment in action.
Imprezaman555 3 months ago
@phreakindee this is a p.m my friend pat she has this computer its specs its running on a hx-
12 princeton monitor s/n 50670575170 model n 5154 its a ibm computer and the screen is ficking plz help
littlelarryj518 5 months ago
@littlelarryj518 Try a new video card. :)
gp75motorsports 3 months ago
\ this machine uses an 8088 wow i just have a question could this system be upgraded to a NEC V30 or what ] or an V25
MrJoe915 5 months ago
@MrJoe915 As mentioned in the video, the NEC V20 was indeed a popular upgrade for the machine. A V25 may work as well, since it's a microcontroller version of the V20. The V30 is pin compatible with the 8086, but not the 8088 as far as I know.
phreakindee 5 months ago
@phreakindee Hey its me again. Its been several months and I want to know if you ever did a review of the BBC micro. You told me you'd do one on that comp and the Atari ST. I saw the Atari St vid and it was great but i'm still waiting for the BBC one. PEACE!
farcher3 4 months ago
@farcher3 You can just check my channel if you want to see if I've reviewed something...
That said, I'll get to the Beeb whenever I get the chance :)
phreakindee 4 months ago
@phreakindee ibm format is what i meant fail :P
girlcrazyrockstar 5 months ago in playlist LGR Hardware Reviews
@phreakindee Hi I was at my grandparents house and I found a keyboard, cd drive, monitor, and a bunch of 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 IBM commpatible floppies but no system. I want to know what kind of system I should get so I can look at all the stuff on the floppies and everything.
girlcrazyrockstar 5 months ago in playlist LGR Hardware Reviews
@CaptainPoovabladoo It is, yes. Although not a monitor like the 5151 by IBM, since that only works on monochrome graphics cards. You can use the composite video output from the CGA card and hook it up to a composite monochrome display. It looks awesome seeing CGA in green monochrome!
phreakindee 5 months ago
0:30 O_o u love that machine right?
MickXD2012 6 months ago
IBM 5150 HELP!!!
Hi today i bought a ibm 5150 for $20. However its missing 1 of the floppy drives and the hard drive. It has a vga monitor and a ibm keyboard. I wanted to know what i should do get get it up and running cheaply. I also want to know how much its worth. Please Respond Thanks!!!
GraysonsTechReviews 6 months ago
these ads are just sooo funny
313hummer 6 months ago
You couldn't be more right about an emulator just not give you the experience of the actual 5150. My IBM PC XT 5160 is close enough for me, though, especially since being a later model it has 640k mounted on the motherboard and, wonder of wonders, it came with an AT compatible Model M keyboard that I can use on pretty much any PC I choose.
xargos 7 months ago
What's kinda weird I've been dragged dragging that old PC around with me for years.. moving from place to place, and then a few years ago I decided to finally just get ride of it... hard drive was dead, and the unit was a little dirty but still powered up fine. So off to the dumpster it went along with my faithful Sysdyne CGA monitor.. now come to find out that the stupid thing is actually worth something on EBAY.. who knew, LOL.
ibdursty 8 months ago
My friend and I got a copy protection copying board that did exact disk to disk copies that would override most of the copy protection schemes back in the day.. can't remember the name of the board now though. We played a LOT of games back in the day, even on that old hardware.. I remember Wizardry and the original Lesuire suit Larry series.. (don't tell me you forgot the jet pack).. famous line form the cheat book for that game... Some of you might remember..
ibdursty 8 months ago
Of course the modem wasn't for connecting to the internet, was for dialing into BBS the were still local calls. Man those were the days.. When I added the hard drive I remember had to be careful finding a hard drive because the original power supply was only 63.5 watts, the XT came with a larger power supply. The RLL encoded harddrives at the time took less power so that's what we used (big old seagate drive). I remember the copy protection too back then...
ibdursty 8 months ago
Later added my 24 pin dot matrix printer, (800 bucks).. 3.5" floppy drive, mouse, 40 meg RLL 5.25 hard drive.. (basically made it a XT).. WOW.. now that was stuff back then. When that hard drive was running it felt like a powerful machine, LOL. I still remember formatting the hard drive when you had to enter the factory tested bad blocks into the bios of the hard drive controller so the OS wouldn't use those blocks during operation. Oh, then later I added 1200 baud modem! cool
ibdursty 8 months ago
Wow.. that really brings back memories... My first PC was the 5150.. My best friend in high school was the computer geek if there was such a thing in 1985.. We bough two identical configurations. They were loaded.. although we didn't opt for the EGA display's as they were like 600 bucks at the time.. so we went with CGA.. 16 colors but only 4 colors could be displayed at one time. 386k AST all in wonder card.. Not one but 2 360k floppy controllers.. (big deal at the time).
ibdursty 8 months ago
Despite growing up in the modern generation where the name "Call of Duty" would make my peers pull out their mother's credit cards, I prefer MS-DOS, and the many awesome games & apps for it.
While Notepad makes simple .txt files, I coded a .bat script in a MS-DOS text editor.
It would overload the RAM, and freeze up the computer, forcing the user to pull the plug on it (Seriously, you had to unplug it to shut it off).
I deleted it when I tested it in DOSBox, and froze up my iBook.
boobidee 8 months ago
you can also get an 8 bit ISA VGA card to put in this machine. I have a 5150 myself, but mine has a Hercules compatible card. I want to get a VGA card...they are on ebay. my 5150 is actually in a storage unit right now though :( a VGA card would also be compatible with EGA games. :)
neutrino78x 8 months ago
Can i play black ops on it
LifeTimeLead 8 months ago
I just found one of these for free on Craigslist fuck yeah :D
link093 9 months ago 9
omg .. look at you guys lmfaooo
alibabagek 9 months ago
4:16 and 6:50. This guy his AWESOME
nuderedfinger 9 months ago
You are an adult clone of me.
MichandOli 9 months ago
@exposed97 VH's album didn't drop until 1986, five years after the IBM 5150 ;)
Although if anyone's curious: 5150, the album, was named after Van Halen's studio, which itself was named for a California police term for a mentally disturbed person.
phreakindee 10 months ago
@CaptainPoovabladoo You can! So long as it's an 8-bit ISA card, like the AdLib or even first-gen Sound Blaster cards as far as I know.
phreakindee 10 months ago
@phreakindee I believe most of the SB Pro and 16's would also work in an 8-bit slot, just without the ability to use their drive interfaces.
Dant2142 6 months ago
0:38 Oh phreakindee, not in front of the Windows 7! :O
PikaChamp112 10 months ago
I think that it can max out Crysis 2 for sure :D
TheID3000 10 months ago
Your video editing skills our outstanding. This is simply a professional production. Very impressive!
dvamateur 11 months ago
It is very awesome, no question. They charge though well over several hundred for a good example on eBay. So I want for a cheaper alternative, the Apple Macintosh.
dvamateur 11 months ago
"turn it on, stick it in, and play." just like sex amiright?!?!?!?!?
my4trackmachine 11 months ago
Very lovely analysis of one of the original ancestors to modern PCs... I personally have a PC/AT which actually gets some use for hobbyist hardware programming. I would eventually like to build my own ISA card as well (which amazingly enough is feasible to do).
cr1901 11 months ago
Just got 4 old clone pc's. Although they are not brand pc's, there is an interesting XT8088 included. Just misses a keyboard. Upgrades my collection a bit. If you like to chat about your collection. Let me know.
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heartrendingbodi 1 year ago
I found one program that NEEDS that 640k ram add-on (board).
wolfenstein 3D. I am not lying.
if I'm right and this is a 286 computer, than using an add-on board to get 640k of ram would give you the minimum system requirements for wolfenstein 3D.
so awesome yet so useless even back then as it ran horribly and was monochrome on the standard monitor.
hobocamptheater 1 year ago
@hobocamptheater That IBM 5170 (AT) would be the minimum for Wolf3D. Sadly, it wouldn't run on this 5150! I still really would love to get an AT, and when I do I will try it out!
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee Someone modded the "now open sourcce" Wolf3D Sourcecode so that it doesn't need an 80286 anymore and so it can run on the 8088, which is used on the 5150. See /watch?v=5f7gW5X24ao
rfvtgbzhn 1 year ago
holyfck the videocard is larger than my radeon hd5970!
kinmanyuen 1 year ago
beautiful video, thank you.
itssav 1 year ago
Run GTA IV on this baby at atleast 32 fps!!!!LOOOOL!!!!
valieddy 1 year ago
LOl love the impression part " This the keyboard " geek looks at the graphic card" haha...son of bitch why the hell its so big " LOL! i loled so hard in the gut almost hurt my stomach laughing to much rofl
TheCleardeath 1 year ago
I LIKE YOUR VIDEO. YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB EXPLAINING THE 5150! ISN'T IT NICE OF MY FRIEND AT{ IBM5150.NET} TO POST THE COMMERCIALS SO YOU COULD USE THEM ON YOUR VIDEO? THIS IS AWESOME! ;-)
scryingeyes 1 year ago 2
im 12 and i wish i owned a old dos pc like a atari st
lazavideoz 1 year ago
@lazavideoz You can build an old school DOS gaming computer, the parts are pretty cheap on ebay, and so are the games too.
Segadude3000 1 year ago
@lazavideoz thankz
lazavideoz 1 year ago
sooo sooo sexy LOL XD
MrGameboy1989 1 year ago
LOL phreak, so wrong what you were doing with that floppy disk!
sirrvs 1 year ago
I own one of those power switches, i pulled it from a broken AT PSU!
nipperoid 1 year ago
ya, fucken dudes ever
ikdsjOFFICIAL 1 year ago
I really don't think this thing weighs 70 pounds.......
MixerVM 1 year ago
@MixerVM 5150 PC - 30 pounds. Keyboard - 6 pounds. Monitor - 20 pounds. Total - 56 pounds. Throw in a printer (13 pounds) and you have 69 pounds. Toss in a beer and you've got 70 :D
phreakindee 1 year ago 11
@phreakindee woah 6 pound keyboard lol. my 17 inch laptop doesnt even weigh that much! thats amazing how far weve come. and great analogy about the car thing i can relate lol
2002j30a1 1 year ago
@phreakindee Don't you think it would be Monitor = 30 pounds and IBM PC = 20 pounds
MixerVM 1 year ago
@MixerVM Not really, no. Old PCs were freaking stupidly heavy, they were made with steel and were a whole lot bigger than modern PCs. Old monitors were smaller than later monitors, hence they weighed less than the PC.
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee 20 pounds for a monitor is quite low compared to high-end montiors from about 2000. Actually I own a 22" CRT, which weights 69 pounds. But 20 pounds for teh PC itself is quite high, most modern perbuilt midi tower PCs weight about 13-18 pounds, but gaming-PCs often use bigger cases an weight considerably more.
rfvtgbzhn 1 year ago
could this system run crysis.....?
TheDarkstar826 1 year ago
Do u actually have a modern pc, if so, what are your specs?
MrProductions96 1 year ago
@MrProductions96 Hehe, well yeah of course, what do you think I make these videos with? ;)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE Deneb 3.4GHz
8GB DDR3 1333 RAM
Windows 7 x64
GeForce GTX 470 1280MB
3TB SATA Seagate HDD (2TB+1TB)
Thermaltake 700W PSU
All wrapped up in a simple Antec Three Hundred case with lots of 120mm fans.
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee That is erm.... holy shit!!!! Thats amazing!!! I'm getting a PC with...
3gb DDR3
windows 7 x32
GeForce (Dunno what model) 1gb
500gb hdd
MrProductions96 1 year ago
@phreakindee You should also make some gameplays of all the modern games such as Battlefield vietnam and black ops :) Please??? Oh and i subscribed!
MrProductions96 1 year ago
Krazyrussianass 1 year ago
Where on earth do I buy MS-DOS 1.0? It was outdated like... 30 years ago.
Dominoe11112 1 year ago
@Dominoe11112 I have no idea... I've only seen it like once on eBay and it went for almost $1,000
phreakindee 1 year ago
A local company bought a bunch of IBM PC 5150 cases, and put new motherboards (486) in them. They called their brand BMI. I wish I'd bought one when I had the chance.
carlcartman 1 year ago
please tell me yiou hav e a uptoday computer lol D:< ifart
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8:54 OMG, do you realize that Vanna White is STILL turning letters? I remember eating dinner in front of the TV as a teenager watching that show. Now I have a 10 year old who knows who she is. I'm going to press the Pause button now and stay 39 forever.
JesusManson323 1 year ago
excellent video, I completely agree with your assessment! I have a 5150, but mine has a hercules graphics adapter and a 40 mb hard drive. (my dad and I added the 8 bit ISA IDE card in the early 90s when I was 12). I want to replace the hercules with an 8 bit isa VGA card, and put a CompactFlash in as a replacement for the HDD. But we'll see. it's a fun toy. :)
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thracemelanieeblh 1 year ago
This is one of the computers that historian james burke used in an episode of the Day the universe Changed. He also used the Osbourne.
farcher3 1 year ago
@farcher3 Sweet, I was not aware of that. A quick wiki search and that looks like a series I'd be interested in checking out. I also have an Osborne, I should totally get some James Burke cosplay going on.
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee yes, james burke is awesome, I highly recommend his books and tv series. not only the day the universe changed, but also "connections" is good. :)
neutrino78x 1 year ago
@phreakindee you cant because the wireless wire is the engine belve me i have one at home
brattymade 1 year ago
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3ytc 1 year ago
Nice! I actually grew up with those same versions of Centipede and Arkanoid, albeit on a 286-based IBM PC. Centipede in particular was very, very fast, haha.
austinmackert 1 year ago
i used to make databases on those basterds... dbase programming if i remember, color screen though (AT) so yeah good old days, i was swept away like most with the consoles and didn't return to PC's until 94... sad but true.
pcvideogamer 1 year ago
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laesponjaloca123 1 year ago
i played alley cat on a old ibm computer of my grandma
ikstinkniet 1 year ago
You should have at least 1 million views per video,because you are AWESOME!
saladwithsalad 1 year ago
Why did IBM have to make that computer so ugly? Other computers of that era look much better.
lemonrind 1 year ago
@lemonrind A matter of opinion - I think they look great in their own way! But they were, and are, a very business-oriented company (International BUSINESS Machines, right?) so for them to have a somewhat lackluster and purely functional aesthetic to fall in line with their theme only makes sense.
phreakindee 1 year ago 5
@phreakindee great review, i think i watched this particular review 4 times now.
what u say about the 5150 is just awesome.
im planning to make a 5150 inside tour with explaining all the internal components on the motherboard and how these chip operate
first i should get a camera
Serpico261 1 year ago
@Serpico261 Awesome. I'll look forward to watching if you do, anything more on the 5150 is always welcome!
phreakindee 1 year ago
Sorry to say but these reviews seem anything but lazy.
I don't care if you don't write a script you still have camera angles, editing takes together, voice recording, video recording, and maybe even research if you don't have all the components in mind.
I yeah not a real lazy review or reviews.
Thanks for the awesome review though once I start getting payed for work or get like a part time job I'm gonna start collecting some computers and stuff that you've reviewed, so thanks for that.
hobocamptheater 1 year ago
Wow!! its amazing all the old PC's and games collection that you have, is a shame that now is hard to get one or more of those,
the ibm 5150 not use mouse?
Zelgadis020 1 year ago
@Zelgadis020 Nope, no mouse! You can add one nowadays somewhat easily, but they didn't catch on in popularity until several years after the introduction of the PC.
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee Awesome! I wonder if I can get one here in mexico, its amazing that the ISA sound devices are huge, I still have one of those sound devices (not huge in size) its old but it still works great
Zelgadis020 1 year ago
I think you should work in the computer / game industry.
vef444 1 year ago
"Who the hell would possibly need 16 KB of RAM?"
JesusManson323 1 year ago
my dad worked on the original IBM software for this exact computer.
it's weird because he told me that 2 days after I watched this for the first time.
hobocamptheater 1 year ago
this is the best IBM5150 review if ever seen!
comedymovi 1 year ago
this is computer porn.
dexterediting 1 year ago
@dexterediting fail.
B3771k 1 year ago
I'm glad i discovered your channel, awesome reviews and beautiful computers. My girlfriend thinks my relationship with my vintage computers is a little inappropriate. I think you suffer from the same fetish :)
Please check out my vintage computer collection if you get a chance, found here: /watch?v=sQTYVxNq5kc
BrianPicchi 1 year ago
@DeadDgames Thank you! Glad to entertain, especially to that degree
phreakindee 1 year ago
i wish i could get one
MrLangley59 1 year ago
I completely agree with you on experiencing vintage systems with real hardware. Emulators are wonderful and serve a purpose. However, having the real deal on your desktop is almost always the best way to go. Unless you don't have the room or money to collect the original systems.
coelhovedo 1 year ago
the thing that surprise me the most with old computer is that they still works after 10-20years !
hard drive , and even the computer itself ...
one day i pick up some old computer that were in a dirty basement for like 5years , and after some dusting Pouf ! it work .
today computer explode like every year , power supply component die ect ...
the thing with old computer is that they were made with quality part , it is why they still works today , in 2010 .
hitachi088 1 year ago 2
I can get that computer for $30 key&monitor
geoman298 1 year ago
the case on the left is what i have XD 00:10
junito510 1 year ago
I got one of em in my grandpas basement, up in NY, I am in NC so its a drive. Complete with boxes of floppies, Color display, keyboard, even a mouse. Nice machine, sat for atleast 10+ years, I got bored one day when visiting and plugged it in. Turned right on and worked great. my dad got it for collage back in the day so its a single owner machine
stevensj13 1 year ago
My dad and mom had bought Wheel of Fortune, lmfao. I always used to yell "run Vanna RUN!" that sound just brought back memories lol. GJ.
DoomTra1n 1 year ago
do a pong review of all ur pong games
rejectofsoul24 1 year ago
I would never have bought that computer for games. Three thousand was too expensive. In 1981 you could have bought an Apple II, a TRS 80, or a Vic 20 with expansion cartridges for far less with better quality games. This was a very nice business machine. That's all it was.
summer20105707 1 year ago
Theedward4ever never fear someone usually comes up with a solution whenever there is a need. The stuff that's on those disks can be preserved.
summer20105707 1 year ago
wow, i remember the old IBM's our school had when I was in elementary... that red power switch was the shit!
Norway2011 1 year ago
Your reviews are interesting man good job..did you ever get any of the Amstrads by any chance or the Spectrum? that was sorta my first game system with games like Postman Pat, Looney Toons i think and Werewovles of London any tons of others but if you have it you think you can review it? if you already have sorry ill go have a look :)
Johfunu 1 year ago
@Johfunu I did a Speccy 48k review, you may have seen it by now. I don't yet have an Amstrad machine but am always hopeful to find one sometime, I'd love to review one.
phreakindee 1 year ago
Don't forget to DISKPARK before you switch it off! :-)
badnewswade 1 year ago
@badnewswade Sound advice! However, with no MFM hard drive in mine there's no worries
phreakindee 1 year ago
I can't believe that you actually said that 640k was overkill for this machine unless you had it loaded with upgrades. Even a 5150 with 5 1/4 disks can run dos 6.22. There is no such thing as too much ram, remember that. Keep in mind that your PC on your desk is a glorified IBM 5150 and can most likely boot dos 3.3 and run dos software.
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 The reason I said this is: from my experience, the majority of games I'd play on the 5150 do not require more than 384k. The ones that do also require a faster processor and/or higher-tier graphics to make the game playable. Apart from system use and office programs and utilities, I see no need for 640k for what I think a 5150 is best for - that is, programs made for an 8088 at 4.77mhz, mono/CGA graphics and <256k RAM
phreakindee 1 year ago
what you said about the keyboards has really got me thinking. I have this Old IBM clone that I got for free and a monitor and a random old keyboard that plugs in but it's one of the more newer keyboards with the same plug. could my IBM clone be having the same problem the old Real IBM's have with the newer keyboards? cause I'd really like to have this up and running everything seems to work fine and I'd like to finally use it. what do you think? wont buy one if it wont help.
DylanMayhew 1 year ago
@DylanMayhew Well without knowing a bit more specifics it's hard to say, but it's certainly possible it could require an older XT-style keyboard.
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee well I been real busy with it last night and I found a keyboard that it liked, and I fixed that problem just to have the computer tell me it has to formate it's hard drive, now I am trying to find a old copy of dos, I got my hands on a dos 5 disc but it's formated to 1.2mb I don't know if this computer uses 360k or 1.2mb i stuck it in and it more less ignored it. and I tried another drive same thing. so I have my work cut out for me. I also might by a tandy 1000 not sure yet.
DylanMayhew 1 year ago
@DylanMayhew If you need some other versions of DOS in other disk formats, try the Vetusware website. They've got plenty.
And check back in a couple of weeks for a Tandy 1000 review, even if you haven't gotten one by then! It's a great machine and I'll be doing a full review
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee yeah my current problem is getting the files on the Floppy. I tried putting i tried to put a 5¼ floppy drive in my main pc and it kept saying there was no floppy in the drive when I had it set as a 1.2mb one and when I had it as a 360k drive it just gave a error... but I was trying this on a computer with a motherboard from 2007. and I have no clue what format my 5 ¼ drive uses. and I look forward to see your review for the tandy 1000! I will know if I am getting one tomorrow.
DylanMayhew 1 year ago
damn I remember paratrooper, i been looking for this game forever.
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Segadude3000 1 year ago
alley cat was my favorite in the '90
jimday666 1 year ago
OK, the PC was an option for games if you had the money back then, but personally I think back then if you really wanted to play games with good graphics and sound, get an Atari VCS 2600 and some good games, please understand this is simply my opinion, if you want one of these that's fine if you're into that sort of thing.
Lachlant1984 1 year ago
@Lachlant1984 there were plenty of games available at the time for the IBM PC's, a lot of adventure games were in their prime like Monkeys Island, Police Quest, Kings Quest, Loom, and even games like prince of persia.
PILMAN 1 year ago
@TheMrolive I usually use v3.3 on mine but originally, of course, it had v1.0 or v1.1
phreakindee 1 year ago
I had an XT, previously owned by Volkswagen of America that I bought in 1997. It came with everything. Even a printer. Did homework/spreadsheet/graphs on it for years till the 14 meg HD died. Awesome.
Gazdatronik 1 year ago
Agreed that it's more than nostalgia, these games were actually fun.
fearhasaglare 1 year ago
the apocolypse is coming! at least, now that they have officially stopped mass production of floppy disks.
TheEdward4ever 1 year ago
Don't forget, that IBM intended the PC to be a closed proprietary platform like everyone else. It was Compaq that made the first clone and opened the market for the x86 standard we still use today.
psyjax 1 year ago
Man, I hope you'll find an 5154 monitor someday. You'd be someone who deserves it.
VintageJunior 1 year ago
@VintageJunior I hope so too. That's one of my most-wanted monitors. Just about to get a 5151 here soon, so I need the EGA to complete the set!
phreakindee 1 year ago
MS-DOS Forever!
MrGoomba909 1 year ago
Man, this brings back memories.. I got rid of my old IBM Clone (Sperry (wierd brand given to me from my uncle in 1989, had apple iic before that)
The thing had 2 360k floopy drives, a 256k CGA card, 512k ram, 14" CGA monitor, 8088 8mhz cpu, and a stack of bible sized 3 ring manuals for everything. Even one on basic. I played Phantasie 1-3, lands of lore and the first 3 ultimas on it...oh how i hated that I couldn't get any of the Gold box games to work (damn 256 ram) -went to a 386sx svga 4mb
Nodieus27 1 year ago
yes Damn! reel disks! they should start manufacturing 5inch floppies again.... I guess if there is enough demande they could start making them again? kinda like demand prompted some Gal to reverse-engeneer the c64?
Acadianiste 1 year ago
Actually they never stopped! There are still quite a few legacy systems in use, especially in industrial settings, and companies like Athana still manufacture 5.25" and even 8" floppy disks. I've bought some from them myself, pretty wild to open brand new disks.
phreakindee 1 year ago
I think the problem with these is that they are only 1.2 MB.... I could be wrong though.
...if you actually found new 360k diskettes, SHOW ME.
VintageJunior 1 year ago
No, they've got single-sided, double-sided and high-density 5.25" disks, all the way back to 8" disks. They make them all, Commodore and IBM-compatible (maybe even Apply), up to the most modern 3.5" floppies.
phreakindee 1 year ago
Wow, that's awesome! I'll definitely check them out, thanks.
VintageJunior 1 year ago
@VintageJunior 360K Floppies have the center hub ring. 1.2MB disks have no ring in the center.
2wayfreq 1 year ago
can you do a review about the IBM Netvista ans specially thoes which came in 1996 ?
alanw3000 1 year ago
I certainly wouldn't mind if I can get hold of one. The only IBM Netvista machines I have were those from around 2003.
phreakindee 1 year ago