The missing page says it was a violation. It wasn't "deleted" by the user because the page would have read "this video was removed by the user"... at least that's what I see when I try to view the old url on google's cache.
no one cares about grammar in texting and online messaging and also you have brought yourself to a fork in the road, because now you have to make a specific decision, either everything you said about this being an alex jones inside job is 100% sarcasm mocking 9/11 which means that everything you said would be completely wrong or if you want to stick your story of alex jones inside job that has all the exact same elements of 9/11 then that means you have to admit that 9/11 was also an inside job.
Despite my affection for ChangeDaChannel, I think he & AJ might be at least somewhat wrong on this one, also despite their respective video press releases. Yeah, it's pretty weird & bad...but even Change said that it could be something as simple as a random hacker. I'll disagree with AJ on this one; I have no reason whatsoever to believe this was an inside job perpetrated by employees at Google or YouTube.
@sleepysalsa What's also interesting is I've seen Alex's videos appearing on the front page of YouTube a few times so his videos aren't dangerous enough to YouTube to censor. Honestly I think Alex dreams of being as subversive as that but he truly isn't.
@NWOisBunk You might have a point there...also consider his view counts. Someone who is more likely to be "censored" to some degree would be (of course) John Martinson (aka Dev Samael Daval), but that is primarily due to (unfortunately) his neo-Nazi aspirations. The sad fact of the matter is, as long as he isn't talking about "those evil Zionist Jews" for the most part, almost all his other ideas are at least worthy for serious reflection.
Do you think that the trend towards involvement in online conspiract theories is indicative of some greater social problem?
Many people are saying that it is a result of social fragmentation and the phenomena called 'cyberbalkanisation', I wondered what your thoughts were on this and I also felt the urge to write at least one comment that didn't involved arguing with the "socially uncertain".
Given that Jones' obedient followers have been hard at work advertising this "documentary" (try to keep a straight face) and uploading it countless times, is it not more likely that someone at youtube simply thought, "Do we really need 18 copies of this crap?"
It's kind of weird that "fighting the evil NWO" seems to involve working as unpaid marketing staff, but I'm sure that Alex "Jim" Jones uses that lovely yacht of his purely to fight corruption.
Ever notice how all the "smart" conspiracy debunker camp are subscribed to Richard Dawkins, Thunderf00t, RKowens4, TYT, and every other nihilistic fake intellectual channel? Who are the real cultists?
@infowarsnz For the record I am not subscribed to Richard Dawkins or Thunderf00t. A lot of "subversive infowarriors" are subscribed to WeAreChange, TheAlexJonesChannel, TheResistance... who cares?
@NWOisBunk haha you hypocrite, your whole channel is dedicated to what you see on the alexjoneschannel and it's followers. I' just charcterizing your side as you do us...look at the subsciptions of your friends...Terrymanning, RKowens, skeptic this that and the other....you guys must be a cult also!
my opinion is that I don't know who took the video down but it was strange that youtube put the video back up because it never does that if you remove a video.
What is the purpose of this oh enlightened one? Also how do you rationalise the FACT that Cass Sunstein has called for the "cognitive infiltration" of 9/11 truth groups? You will never seriously answer these questions, you will resort to cynical diatribe, as you are a weak, coward son of a bitch who will learn the meaning of tyranny first hand!
@infowarsnz Cass Sunstein talked about cognitive infiltration of 9/11 truth and other conspiracy groups due to the fact their misinformation could lead to bad public policy. I don't think that paper was as sinister as you make it out to be. I honestly see zero evidence that such efforts are taking place.
@NWOisBunk Yes fool, you are reading too deeply in to text emotions, like some tarot or palm reader. Lets get specific, do you think fluoride is safe?
@infowarsnz There isn't any evidence fluoridation of municipal water supplies is dangerous. There are countless scientific studies showing its benefits. Did you find some flaw in the studies saying that its safe and effective?
@NWOisBunk there are also a number of studies showing increased bone cancer and reduced iq, why did the nazis use it? Ever heard of industry funded studies, do you realise that science follows ecomoics not the other way around?
@infowarsnz There must be tons of people dying of bone cancer in the United States then because water fluoridation has been going on in this country for 40+ years.
From what I can work out the story starts out with the John Birch Society (that birthplace of so many US conspiracy theories) claiming that fluoridation was a communist plot. This then mutates into stories of Stalin using fluoride to make the population docile.
When the cold war ended it was impossible to keep saying that perfectly normal Russian people were all drugged so it changed to "the Nazis did it".
The continuing evolution of conspiracy theories is a fascinating field.
@infowarsnz udy which shows fluoride reducing IQ is out of China. The control group(loose term as China doesn't use tight controls) had a fluoridation level of 5 Mg/L. They did score lower than the low control group who had a fluoridation level of 1.3 Mg/L. What is the maximum allowed fluoridation level in the US? 1.2 Mg/L. That's right; less than the low fluoride control group in the one study which shows a lowering of IQ.
@dsglop yes I have looked at the studies, glad you have too. Do you not question the accute effects of even 1ppm. Also keep in mind the nature of the compound NaF as opposed to CaF2, fluoride may also only be effective topically rather than being ingested. Calcium and phosphurous are two essential elements for teeth and bones. It should be a personal choice, as all forms of medication, people can buy fluoride tablets for instance. Why is it compulsory in 60 nations?
@asubjectiveopinion You think NZ is totally independent of geopolitics? We have a TSA act here as a direct resulf of 9/11, we are also the only country to sign on to the new ETS climate change scam, which taxes all kiwis. We also have fluoridated municipal water suppliesetc,etc, I have every right to object, get real statist.
Its truly fascinating watching the various ideological assumptions that you make about anyone that disagrees with you.
In that post alone you have attempted to imply that I am ill-informed about international politics and, from out of the blue, you seem to just throw in the word statist for good measure, despite their being so discernible evidence for such an assertion.
I can see why he felt the need to make this video.
You are clearly very ill, I truly hope you get through this.
I implied nothing. It was a pretty clear statement.
You live in a lovely country which is, I assume, why you have had to adopt this fantasy in which you are a lone crusader fighting a sci-fi plot to do whatever Alex Jones says it is that "they" (pretty much everyone who isn't in Fuhrer Alex's cult) are planning to do to us this week.
Don't you think its weird when he is proven wrong about something and just never ever mentions it again, even though it was his main story last week?
@asubjectiveopinion well rather than being subjective I try to be objective, poisoned food and water supplies are real and documented. If you can tell me what he said that was a LIE last week, i will gladly listen, research and take it on board. I don't belong to any cult....be that a maintream, atheist, climate change cult or a "resistance" cult. I can make my own mind up and will gladly listen to anything reasonable you have to say
@asubjectiveopinion Jones has done anything to me, people get emotional reactionary and scared by what he says- too bad, their problem. As for me not having friends...lol I have too many to keep up with. Alex says alot that I though for years prior which is one reason I like him, but its no cult. I'm on american freedom radio 1-3pm cst mon-fri (if you know the history there?), Alex was only 25 during the y2k thing, in all the years and hours of broadcasts he has made very few mistakes
@asubjectiveopinion I've seen all that stuff before and more, I've seen shit you can't imagine as I know people in activist circles rather than just being some internet speculator. You didn't give me evidence of AJ lieing last week, please prove that to me
Are you pretending not to understand me or do you genuinely not realise that the sentence "Don't you think its weird when he is proven wrong about something and just never ever mentions it again, even though it was his main story last week?" was an illustrative generalisation?
As someone who has worked in education in your country I have to say that you disappoint me a great deal.
Do you think, perhaps, that you are compensating for a lack of formal education?
@asubjectiveopinion Always have to frame the debate to feel in control don't you?
I went to Auckland University after gaining an A bursary if that matters.....I also know people in England, since I was born there, if this is becoming a pissing contest. I'm trying to stick to facts not personalities, AJ's emotions or style is irrelevant but facts are facts. Why do you think Bisphenol A was banned in 4 states last week just after Alex had a campaign against it?
@asubjectiveopinion I'm sure it did, maybe Alex had good timing. Regardless, do you consider that to be a conspiracy theory? Do you reject the fact that governments knowingly poison and kill their own populations? Please chat with me on skype, PM me....
I often wonder what Will Sasso (the actor who actually plays the Alex Jones character in the movies and on the radio) thinks about you all taking his comedy character at face value?
@asubjectiveopinion woah woah woah, back up the bus, you wanna know details about me when I don't even know your name? I'm not asking for your qualifications, I can tell you are not stupid, eventhough I disagree with you, and that is all which is required for conversation.
I'm not asking you to identify yourself, I'm just implying that you are lying to me about your alleged level of education.
There is no aspect of your posts that leads me to assume that you attended anything beyond standard secondary education and your continual evasion when pressed for details simply convinces me further.
I can tell you that I took my BA at Baliol College Oxford (course 4800) and that my course tutor was Robin Dunbar, it doesn't identify me in the least.
@asubjectiveopinion you need to put up or shutup over your denial of declassified govt coverups such as Tonkin, Ajax and Northwoods. Oh and since you wanna throw names around, I know people and aids in the commons as well as a couple of intel guys....so don't think I'm some naive kid you can push around ok? The invite stands for a radio debate on AFR 1-3pm cst
While I was in Aotearoa the museum had a lot of hassle from a group of racist conspiracy theorists who pretend to believe that "the celts" (which leads an anthropologist to smell a rat right away) discovered Aotearoa and that there is a Maori-led conspiracy among the scientific community to prevent them from announcing that "the white race" settled Aotearoa first.
@infowarsnz Honestly infowarnz if i were to advocate the position taken by Cass Sunstein in his paper I'd say "cognitive infiltration" would be a good idea for anti-vaccine groups because the anti-vaccine paranoia has been demonstrably harmful in that its been instrumental in causing outbreaks of childhood diseases. It'd be awesome if people were exposed to the true information about vaccines rather than the nonsense of Andrew Wakefield and others.
@infowarsnz Precisely because you're wrong and crazy. Is Cass Sunstein's paper actually policy? No. It was an academic paper.. I don't think it represents actual government policy. 9/11 Truth really isn't a threat because its ideas have been thoroughly debunked. If its ideas had any merit.. you'd have had Bush and Cheney and everyone else locked up a long time ago and you'd have a lot more public support.
@NWOisBunk read it yourself, be a responsible citizen....not a relativist, immoral stooge. Government is always right, humans are causing global warming, we need 50 million abortions, i love this democracy, people who doubt this freedom are losers etc etc (this is your mantra) You are void of discernment, thanks for putting it out here for the whole world to see!
@infowarsnz You need to ask yourself why your movement has achieved none of its goals. I think the reason is because you don't have the facts on your side. You think you're this huge threat to the status quo inforwarsnz but you need to accept the fact that you're just some crazy guy on the internet and frankly I would not be surprised if you resort to violence one day.
@NWOisBunk still won't answer the question, which incidentally is why violence occurs, because people like you are no good at discourse. You are intellectually bankrupt and when the nwo fucks your life properly, you will run around wondering what has happened, looting, rioting etc. In such situation I hope you are dealt with by someone who understands the 2nd ammendment and freedom!
@infowarsnz I cannot count the number of times you've wished me dead, infowarnz. You actually wish that someone will shoot me down. I truly do not envy you. I am enjoying how angry I make you. I can seriously feel your anger coming through the computer screen.
@NWOisBunk no you are too fucking myopic to be an agent of any kind, rather you are a useful idiot to the elite you believe not to exist....to me you are just a useless idiot. As for the death threats...don't you believe in climate change, don't you wanna kill yourself to do your part to reduce emissions?
@infowarsnz duder you need to calm the fuck down, and/or get a real life, why are you consistently threatening this guy? how does his opinion threaten your existence? if you are so much for freedom let him at least speak, i don't know you but you seem either to be a troll, or a young kid with no real idea of how the world operates, this movement of insanity you give credit gives you power by letting you think you do know something, grow up please your threats are real, the illuminati isn't!
@awfulnhead maybe you need to calm the fuck down and ask yourself why you assume I'm not calm? I live on a beautiful island and am about to take a boat to downtown Auckland, if you know where that is, all is well with me. BUT, idiot cynic spammers who ridicule truthers all day yet do nothing productive of their own, piss me off and I have every right to type what I like to them. Don't like it? Go back to Kansas,leave the real world to us!
@infowarsnz erm? ok? i figured you weren't calm is because you seem and expressed irritation even with my comment, plus you have been threatening this guy, seems like an expression of anger, which is usually derived not from being calm, BUT i'd like to know where you get the idea i do nothing productive all day, how can you tell from new zealand? how am i a spammer for asking a simple question?! you must be a troll, no one is this non-sensical yet claims to know the "truth" unless they're crazy
@awfulnhead sorry I did not mean you were unproductive, I know nothing about you. NWOisBunk however, never tells us his politics or what he stands for, he just rips on others. Instead of hating on Alex, why does he not for his own superior worldview and take it to infowars (the biggest alt media site on the planet)? NWOisBunk stands for zip, naada, zero, and if we are what we think, he is worthless
@infowarsnz i think you have misunderstood his message then, he is only saying from what i can tell, that filling your head with the garbage of alex jones and other conspiracy theorists tripe (that have been debunked whether you accept it or not) is dangerous and bad for you, you are what you eat kind of thing, you have put garbage in your brain and garbage is what's coming out all the time,
@infowarsnz You're the opposite of calm infowarsnz. You see conspiracies literally everywhere and you've stated multiple times that you wish me dead. I do not ridicule truthers all day.
Makes sense, AJ is a lying cheating stealing disingenuous bastard who should really be off the air. The shit he said about global infrustructure being a giant "kill grid" is stupid in the extreeme as he based his thesis on the idea that we are in a depression, when we are not, we are in a recession that we are COMING OUT OF. seesch....
@BespokeGroupUK Coming out of recession? Isn't it a little bit too hasty to say that? The government(s) have been printing money like crazy. At some point in the future these debts they created to feed the needs of their banksters need to be paid back.. Who's going to pay for it? Those retired babyboomers? Don't think they'll be getting much (tax)revenue from them. We'll just hand it over to our children, and let them decide what to make of our mess..
Guerrilla marketing at its finest. It's funny because from what i've heard, the video that was removed said "removed by user" not "removed because of x violation".
So Alex told CDC to remove the video, and when he did, all of the patriots for profit cried bloody murder, and now look how many retards are hopping on his crockumentaries.
This has been flagged as spam show
Shit for brains boy, you got shit for brains
aslund76 3 months ago
The missing page says it was a violation. It wasn't "deleted" by the user because the page would have read "this video was removed by the user"... at least that's what I see when I try to view the old url on google's cache.
izlude2 3 months ago
Low grade dog food.
esopxe 3 months ago
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
13wolfmoon 4 months ago
no one cares about grammar in texting and online messaging and also you have brought yourself to a fork in the road, because now you have to make a specific decision, either everything you said about this being an alex jones inside job is 100% sarcasm mocking 9/11 which means that everything you said would be completely wrong or if you want to stick your story of alex jones inside job that has all the exact same elements of 9/11 then that means you have to admit that 9/11 was also an inside job.
chibears26 1 year ago
damn your an idiot
nalaser 1 year ago
Despite my affection for ChangeDaChannel, I think he & AJ might be at least somewhat wrong on this one, also despite their respective video press releases. Yeah, it's pretty weird & bad...but even Change said that it could be something as simple as a random hacker. I'll disagree with AJ on this one; I have no reason whatsoever to believe this was an inside job perpetrated by employees at Google or YouTube.
sleepysalsa 1 year ago
@sleepysalsa What's also interesting is I've seen Alex's videos appearing on the front page of YouTube a few times so his videos aren't dangerous enough to YouTube to censor. Honestly I think Alex dreams of being as subversive as that but he truly isn't.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk You might have a point there...also consider his view counts. Someone who is more likely to be "censored" to some degree would be (of course) John Martinson (aka Dev Samael Daval), but that is primarily due to (unfortunately) his neo-Nazi aspirations. The sad fact of the matter is, as long as he isn't talking about "those evil Zionist Jews" for the most part, almost all his other ideas are at least worthy for serious reflection.
sleepysalsa 1 year ago
NWOisBunk:
Do you think that the trend towards involvement in online conspiract theories is indicative of some greater social problem?
Many people are saying that it is a result of social fragmentation and the phenomena called 'cyberbalkanisation', I wondered what your thoughts were on this and I also felt the urge to write at least one comment that didn't involved arguing with the "socially uncertain".
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
Given that Jones' obedient followers have been hard at work advertising this "documentary" (try to keep a straight face) and uploading it countless times, is it not more likely that someone at youtube simply thought, "Do we really need 18 copies of this crap?"
It's kind of weird that "fighting the evil NWO" seems to involve working as unpaid marketing staff, but I'm sure that Alex "Jim" Jones uses that lovely yacht of his purely to fight corruption.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
Hey Bunk; long time......No shit on Obama video, right? LOL
doctorofghetto 1 year ago
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EpioN 1 year ago
AH HA HA HA HA great stuff man. I love how you completely flipped it on those wackos.
EpioN 1 year ago
I heard AJ say: "Pull it!"
Hochdorff 1 year ago
Ever notice how all the "smart" conspiracy debunker camp are subscribed to Richard Dawkins, Thunderf00t, RKowens4, TYT, and every other nihilistic fake intellectual channel? Who are the real cultists?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz For the record I am not subscribed to Richard Dawkins or Thunderf00t. A lot of "subversive infowarriors" are subscribed to WeAreChange, TheAlexJonesChannel, TheResistance... who cares?
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk haha you hypocrite, your whole channel is dedicated to what you see on the alexjoneschannel and it's followers. I' just charcterizing your side as you do us...look at the subsciptions of your friends...Terrymanning, RKowens, skeptic this that and the other....you guys must be a cult also!
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz What's wrong with being skeptical about conspiracy theories?
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
my opinion is that I don't know who took the video down but it was strange that youtube put the video back up because it never does that if you remove a video.
HardcoreSalmon 1 year ago
I like your impression of AJ
TheUnmaskedMagician 1 year ago
Hahaha soo funny!!
PluripotentBrain 1 year ago
You just made my week buddy, you got an instant subscriber. keep up the good work
MinorSnag 1 year ago
Alex Jones said "pull it".
I guess he finally saw that video by MrChiCity called "YouTube is Dying"
OR
ChangeDaChannel took too many bong hits one night and in the middle of his frenzy to flag down every one who disagrees with him, he flagged himself.
Singledad03 1 year ago
What is the purpose of this oh enlightened one? Also how do you rationalise the FACT that Cass Sunstein has called for the "cognitive infiltration" of 9/11 truth groups? You will never seriously answer these questions, you will resort to cynical diatribe, as you are a weak, coward son of a bitch who will learn the meaning of tyranny first hand!
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz Cass Sunstein talked about cognitive infiltration of 9/11 truth and other conspiracy groups due to the fact their misinformation could lead to bad public policy. I don't think that paper was as sinister as you make it out to be. I honestly see zero evidence that such efforts are taking place.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@infowarsnz I also love how I clearly get under your skin infowarnz. You're so crazy and angry. Its funny as hell brother.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk You can't tell mood through text "brother" stop being a soppy new-age theorist!
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz I'm not new age. I don't recall ever espousing anything of the sort infowarnz.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk Yes fool, you are reading too deeply in to text emotions, like some tarot or palm reader. Lets get specific, do you think fluoride is safe?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz There isn't any evidence fluoridation of municipal water supplies is dangerous. There are countless scientific studies showing its benefits. Did you find some flaw in the studies saying that its safe and effective?
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk there are also a number of studies showing increased bone cancer and reduced iq, why did the nazis use it? Ever heard of industry funded studies, do you realise that science follows ecomoics not the other way around?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz There must be tons of people dying of bone cancer in the United States then because water fluoridation has been going on in this country for 40+ years.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@infowarsnz I'd love to see a reliable source about the Nazi use of fluoride. The only places I see that mentioned is conspiracy websites.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk IG Farben crime and punishment
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk
From what I can work out the story starts out with the John Birch Society (that birthplace of so many US conspiracy theories) claiming that fluoridation was a communist plot. This then mutates into stories of Stalin using fluoride to make the population docile.
When the cold war ended it was impossible to keep saying that perfectly normal Russian people were all drugged so it changed to "the Nazis did it".
The continuing evolution of conspiracy theories is a fascinating field.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@infowarsnz udy which shows fluoride reducing IQ is out of China. The control group(loose term as China doesn't use tight controls) had a fluoridation level of 5 Mg/L. They did score lower than the low control group who had a fluoridation level of 1.3 Mg/L. What is the maximum allowed fluoridation level in the US? 1.2 Mg/L. That's right; less than the low fluoride control group in the one study which shows a lowering of IQ.
dsglop 1 year ago
@dsglop yes I have looked at the studies, glad you have too. Do you not question the accute effects of even 1ppm. Also keep in mind the nature of the compound NaF as opposed to CaF2, fluoride may also only be effective topically rather than being ingested. Calcium and phosphurous are two essential elements for teeth and bones. It should be a personal choice, as all forms of medication, people can buy fluoride tablets for instance. Why is it compulsory in 60 nations?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
Godwin!
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion who cares if it's Godwin? Do you deny the holocaust on that basis?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
Accusing you of being clichéd is hardly the same as practicing historical revisionism.
You're a Kiwi man, what the fuck do you have to complain about?
Get a life.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion You think NZ is totally independent of geopolitics? We have a TSA act here as a direct resulf of 9/11, we are also the only country to sign on to the new ETS climate change scam, which taxes all kiwis. We also have fluoridated municipal water suppliesetc,etc, I have every right to object, get real statist.
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
Its truly fascinating watching the various ideological assumptions that you make about anyone that disagrees with you.
In that post alone you have attempted to imply that I am ill-informed about international politics and, from out of the blue, you seem to just throw in the word statist for good measure, despite their being so discernible evidence for such an assertion.
I can see why he felt the need to make this video.
You are clearly very ill, I truly hope you get through this.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion look who's talking pal, you implied nz has nothing to worry about .....what am I meant to make of that?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
I implied nothing. It was a pretty clear statement.
You live in a lovely country which is, I assume, why you have had to adopt this fantasy in which you are a lone crusader fighting a sci-fi plot to do whatever Alex Jones says it is that "they" (pretty much everyone who isn't in Fuhrer Alex's cult) are planning to do to us this week.
Don't you think its weird when he is proven wrong about something and just never ever mentions it again, even though it was his main story last week?
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion well rather than being subjective I try to be objective, poisoned food and water supplies are real and documented. If you can tell me what he said that was a LIE last week, i will gladly listen, research and take it on board. I don't belong to any cult....be that a maintream, atheist, climate change cult or a "resistance" cult. I can make my own mind up and will gladly listen to anything reasonable you have to say
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
The problem is that anything that disagrees with the fuhrer is part of the conspiracy and therefore not a valid source of information.
Can you not see what he has done to you? Jones has convinced you that he, a man on the internet, is the only man who can be trusted.
If I were you I would spend a bit more time with friends and family, or, if you have o friends, why not go out and make some?
Meanwhile, first-hand footage of Jones making shit up can be seen at v=ZeuPU1agi98
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion Jones has done anything to me, people get emotional reactionary and scared by what he says- too bad, their problem. As for me not having friends...lol I have too many to keep up with. Alex says alot that I though for years prior which is one reason I like him, but its no cult. I'm on american freedom radio 1-3pm cst mon-fri (if you know the history there?), Alex was only 25 during the y2k thing, in all the years and hours of broadcasts he has made very few mistakes
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
Have you considered just giving up conspiracy theories for one day a week?
You could probably meet some new friends at an adult literacy class or something.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
I give you the evidence you ask for and you make excuses for him.
And you say it isn't a cult?
Yeah, right...
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion I've seen all that stuff before and more, I've seen shit you can't imagine as I know people in activist circles rather than just being some internet speculator. You didn't give me evidence of AJ lieing last week, please prove that to me
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
Are you pretending not to understand me or do you genuinely not realise that the sentence "Don't you think its weird when he is proven wrong about something and just never ever mentions it again, even though it was his main story last week?" was an illustrative generalisation?
As someone who has worked in education in your country I have to say that you disappoint me a great deal.
Do you think, perhaps, that you are compensating for a lack of formal education?
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion Always have to frame the debate to feel in control don't you?
I went to Auckland University after gaining an A bursary if that matters.....I also know people in England, since I was born there, if this is becoming a pissing contest. I'm trying to stick to facts not personalities, AJ's emotions or style is irrelevant but facts are facts. Why do you think Bisphenol A was banned in 4 states last week just after Alex had a campaign against it?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
You don't think that the six year international campaign had something to do with it then?
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion I'm sure it did, maybe Alex had good timing. Regardless, do you consider that to be a conspiracy theory? Do you reject the fact that governments knowingly poison and kill their own populations? Please chat with me on skype, PM me....
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
Still waiting.........
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
I often wonder what Will Sasso (the actor who actually plays the Alex Jones character in the movies and on the radio) thinks about you all taking his comedy character at face value?
He was much better in Southland Tales.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
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asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
isn't it odd how every single conspiracy cultist turns out to be an accomplished academic.
I have loads of friends at Auckland, what did you study, who was your tutor, what was the code number for your course?
The Te Whare Wananga o Tamaki Makaurau server is currently down, so you can't go and look it up.
Its put up or shut up time.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
I think you underestimate the extent of my imagination.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion woah woah woah, back up the bus, you wanna know details about me when I don't even know your name? I'm not asking for your qualifications, I can tell you are not stupid, eventhough I disagree with you, and that is all which is required for conversation.
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
I'm not asking you to identify yourself, I'm just implying that you are lying to me about your alleged level of education.
There is no aspect of your posts that leads me to assume that you attended anything beyond standard secondary education and your continual evasion when pressed for details simply convinces me further.
I can tell you that I took my BA at Baliol College Oxford (course 4800) and that my course tutor was Robin Dunbar, it doesn't identify me in the least.
Your turn.
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@asubjectiveopinion you need to put up or shutup over your denial of declassified govt coverups such as Tonkin, Ajax and Northwoods. Oh and since you wanna throw names around, I know people and aids in the commons as well as a couple of intel guys....so don't think I'm some naive kid you can push around ok? The invite stands for a radio debate on AFR 1-3pm cst
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
A great deal of this conversation appears to be taking place in your head, it makes it difficult for me to interact with you.
Maybe you could dictate to one of the orderlies?
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@infowarsnz
While I was in Aotearoa the museum had a lot of hassle from a group of racist conspiracy theorists who pretend to believe that "the celts" (which leads an anthropologist to smell a rat right away) discovered Aotearoa and that there is a Maori-led conspiracy among the scientific community to prevent them from announcing that "the white race" settled Aotearoa first.
Are you one of those people?
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
@infowarsnz Honestly infowarnz if i were to advocate the position taken by Cass Sunstein in his paper I'd say "cognitive infiltration" would be a good idea for anti-vaccine groups because the anti-vaccine paranoia has been demonstrably harmful in that its been instrumental in causing outbreaks of childhood diseases. It'd be awesome if people were exposed to the true information about vaccines rather than the nonsense of Andrew Wakefield and others.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk we were talking about anti-vacc groups though coward! Why would they need to infiltrate 9/11 groups if we are so wrong and crazy?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz Precisely because you're wrong and crazy. Is Cass Sunstein's paper actually policy? No. It was an academic paper.. I don't think it represents actual government policy. 9/11 Truth really isn't a threat because its ideas have been thoroughly debunked. If its ideas had any merit.. you'd have had Bush and Cheney and everyone else locked up a long time ago and you'd have a lot more public support.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@infowarsnz Give me the quote from the Sunstein paper that scares you the most. Srsly. Give me a direct quote.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk read it yourself, be a responsible citizen....not a relativist, immoral stooge. Government is always right, humans are causing global warming, we need 50 million abortions, i love this democracy, people who doubt this freedom are losers etc etc (this is your mantra) You are void of discernment, thanks for putting it out here for the whole world to see!
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz You need to ask yourself why your movement has achieved none of its goals. I think the reason is because you don't have the facts on your side. You think you're this huge threat to the status quo inforwarsnz but you need to accept the fact that you're just some crazy guy on the internet and frankly I would not be surprised if you resort to violence one day.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk still won't answer the question, which incidentally is why violence occurs, because people like you are no good at discourse. You are intellectually bankrupt and when the nwo fucks your life properly, you will run around wondering what has happened, looting, rioting etc. In such situation I hope you are dealt with by someone who understands the 2nd ammendment and freedom!
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz I cannot count the number of times you've wished me dead, infowarnz. You actually wish that someone will shoot me down. I truly do not envy you. I am enjoying how angry I make you. I can seriously feel your anger coming through the computer screen.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk does it make you feel powerful, like you are an evil illuminti agent?
WHAT DO YOU STAND FOR COWARD?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz I stand for critical thinking. Illuminati agent? Are you serious about that? Powerful. I really do not have a need to feel powerful.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@NWOisBunk no you are too fucking myopic to be an agent of any kind, rather you are a useful idiot to the elite you believe not to exist....to me you are just a useless idiot. As for the death threats...don't you believe in climate change, don't you wanna kill yourself to do your part to reduce emissions?
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz What question are you referring to? And yes.. I have read it.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
@infowarsnz duder you need to calm the fuck down, and/or get a real life, why are you consistently threatening this guy? how does his opinion threaten your existence? if you are so much for freedom let him at least speak, i don't know you but you seem either to be a troll, or a young kid with no real idea of how the world operates, this movement of insanity you give credit gives you power by letting you think you do know something, grow up please your threats are real, the illuminati isn't!
awfulnhead 1 year ago
@awfulnhead maybe you need to calm the fuck down and ask yourself why you assume I'm not calm? I live on a beautiful island and am about to take a boat to downtown Auckland, if you know where that is, all is well with me. BUT, idiot cynic spammers who ridicule truthers all day yet do nothing productive of their own, piss me off and I have every right to type what I like to them. Don't like it? Go back to Kansas,leave the real world to us!
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz erm? ok? i figured you weren't calm is because you seem and expressed irritation even with my comment, plus you have been threatening this guy, seems like an expression of anger, which is usually derived not from being calm, BUT i'd like to know where you get the idea i do nothing productive all day, how can you tell from new zealand? how am i a spammer for asking a simple question?! you must be a troll, no one is this non-sensical yet claims to know the "truth" unless they're crazy
awfulnhead 1 year ago
@awfulnhead sorry I did not mean you were unproductive, I know nothing about you. NWOisBunk however, never tells us his politics or what he stands for, he just rips on others. Instead of hating on Alex, why does he not for his own superior worldview and take it to infowars (the biggest alt media site on the planet)? NWOisBunk stands for zip, naada, zero, and if we are what we think, he is worthless
infowarsnz 1 year ago
@infowarsnz i think you have misunderstood his message then, he is only saying from what i can tell, that filling your head with the garbage of alex jones and other conspiracy theorists tripe (that have been debunked whether you accept it or not) is dangerous and bad for you, you are what you eat kind of thing, you have put garbage in your brain and garbage is what's coming out all the time,
awfulnhead 1 year ago
@infowarsnz You're the opposite of calm infowarsnz. You see conspiracies literally everywhere and you've stated multiple times that you wish me dead. I do not ridicule truthers all day.
NWOisBunk 1 year ago
Makes sense, AJ is a lying cheating stealing disingenuous bastard who should really be off the air. The shit he said about global infrustructure being a giant "kill grid" is stupid in the extreeme as he based his thesis on the idea that we are in a depression, when we are not, we are in a recession that we are COMING OUT OF. seesch....
BespokeGroupUK 1 year ago
@BespokeGroupUK Coming out of recession? Isn't it a little bit too hasty to say that? The government(s) have been printing money like crazy. At some point in the future these debts they created to feed the needs of their banksters need to be paid back.. Who's going to pay for it? Those retired babyboomers? Don't think they'll be getting much (tax)revenue from them. We'll just hand it over to our children, and let them decide what to make of our mess..
enslavetherich 1 year ago
lol.. great video.. i love the nuances, especially "you keyboard warriors, keeping the NWO on the run.."
smokestackeroo 1 year ago 2
Guerrilla marketing at its finest. It's funny because from what i've heard, the video that was removed said "removed by user" not "removed because of x violation".
So Alex told CDC to remove the video, and when he did, all of the patriots for profit cried bloody murder, and now look how many retards are hopping on his crockumentaries.
TJB
XmXFLUXmX 1 year ago