Heavy Goods Vehicles Travelling By Train.

[voodoomau5]

I live in the south west so this probably doesn't apply to everywhere but wouldn't low tunnels, especially the way they arch end up hitting the lorrys? lol

[citytransportinfo]

@voodoomau5

yes, very much so.

Therefore only certain routes would be suitable, unless bridges and tunnels could be rebuilt - which would most likely be too expensive for some routes.

[kevleisa]

why cant we do this in the uk because its run by morons

[citytransportinfo]

@kevleisa

90% I agree with you, however another reason is that on some routes the loading guage is simply too small to allow this. BUT, there are enough routes where this could be done for this to have been done. If the politicians and other decision makers had the will.

[kevleisa]

@citytransportinfo thank you for your reply must admit i forgot about load gauge kind regards kev and leisa

[moonspots01]

I agree 100 percent!!!

[SFtruckerWolf]

It´s totally horror camp for driver to go with those trains. Not eating, no drinking. Cannot lock door´s on cabin´s. very less those train´s are keeping the time. Many times late, many times broken waggon´s, dirty cabbins, cold. neue rollende Ausc.....

[jeep6242]

Curious to the drivers ride in the cab or a separate carriage?

[citytransportinfo]

@jeep6242 The drivers travel in a separate carriage between the locomotive and the rest of the train.

Simon

[Conthunqueror]

If (BIG IF) the new HS line gets built would it not be a good idea to build it to allow for such trains as this.

Linking the South to Birm, Manc, Leeds and on to Newcastle as part of the initialy suggested Y system could also include Sheffield via the W/Head giving an all round system.

This would give:

Fast pass services to the industrial and financial cities.

Ease road congestion by placing HGV's on rail and call at the major industrial areas.

[Mechknight73]

Do any of you use a system seen a lot in Australia. Take one specially built truck trailer. Where the turntable is attached, the turntable is a rail bogie. It has an attachment to the front of this bogie that connects with the trailer in front, raising the road wheels just above the ground and out of the way of the rails. It has been used for some years in Australia, apparently with a lot of success

[jvkm01]

We are interested in transport trucks by train. If you know who makes the wagons showed in that video

[citytransportinfo]

Hello, thanks for your interest.

you may find the information you seek by visiting the English Wikipedia page on

Rolling_highway

I cannot put the link here as youtube do not allow links in messages, so am placing it in the main film text.

Simon

[wereldmen]

omg old trucks love that trucks 5.5

[cleckheatoncentral]

I agree, it would be great seeing all that alot speeding through Dunford Bridge

[citytransportinfo]

me too

simon

[maxsinatra]

bring back woodhead! it cud do this! and would solve so many problems! just do it! you no it makes sence!

[citytransportinfo]

I sooo much agree.

If you would like higher resolution footage of this video to help with promotional work to achieve this then contact me.

The master image is in S-VHS-C format, and digitised in quicktime format - although could be easily converted into avi format & burnt to a DVD.

Simon

simon

[buzziibee]

that is well good

the train must be very strong and i would love to see it in real life

nice video

[citytransportinfo]

here in Britain the railway system is built to a smaller size, so for this to happen the routes might need the bridges and tunnels rebuilding to accept wider / taller trains.

But I understand that some freight train operators / advocates are looking at ways to bring this into reality on our railway system.

simon

[dekfungton]

Nice video! That was interesting to see. In the US, as you pry know if you're a railfan, trailers are typically put on an intermodal train car and transported part-way to their destination by train. This type of intermodal train can most commonly be seen here carrying UPS Freight trailers. It is not common to see both the tractor and the trailer together on a train here though, unless the tractor just came out of a factory!

[citytransportinfo]

I've seen both solutions in Europe. Alas in Britain the restricted loading gauge prevents this.

Thanks for your information.

Simon

[dekfungton]

Thank You for the video Simon! Merry Christmas!

[Intransitman]

Amtrak already has the AutoTrain, between Florida & Virginia. Though there could a verison of it for trucks too.

[jock678]

I doubt we will ever see this type of thing in the UK mainly because our loading gauge is too small. It would require massive investment to correct this.

The problem of differing voltages/signaling systems could be solved by simply changing the locomotive at the border crossing.

[citytransportinfo]

Multi system locos also solve the signalling / voltage issue.

I understand that the Railfreight companies are working with Network Rail and the DfT to see if there are routes where this could be done. Routes out of Felixstowe and Southampton Docks come to mind, but I am not sure on how things are progressing.

Simon

[citytransportinfo]

There was a private enterprise company which wanted to reopen the old Great Central route and extend it to the Chunnel, solely for this sort of freight train. Alas it seems that the govt. does not want it to do this.

[arrivayorkshire]

i guess lmb222 is a member of the road transport lobby. with investment in correct areas,this is arguably the best way for hgvs to move around and reduce traffic congestion on such as the M62 road in uk by millions of hgvs a year. but the politcal will is not there,although,if properly advertised and promoted,i believe the public support would be.

[citytransportinfo]

I agree, (s)he must be pro-road. Alas our govt is too - and to prove this its about to allow trials with 85 ton 'road trains'.

For the M62 a reopening of the Woodhead route would be part of the solution.

btw, I also support canals, for some types of freight. By using the Manchester Ship Canal Tesco are proving that waterways can also be a viable alternative to roads.

Simon

[Mechknight73]

@citytransportinfo It could be worse. You could see Australian style road trains on your motorways, but the lack of clearance and congestion on British roads should prevent that. A fully loaded Australian triple road train weighs about 150 tonnes fully loaded. A "B-Double" (1 1/2 trailers) would be about 80 tonnes. It is a congestion headache few governments want. It only works in Australia, because we have vast tracts of road between cities

[LMB222]

"The fastest, safest and most environmentally sound way for heavy lorries and juggernauts to travel " - what about the cost? Let's not cheat ourselves, this system exists only because the Swiss government imposed it on foreign lorries. There were other attempts in Europe, but they failed. One of the obstacles to overcome in pan-european train transport is the variety of signalling systems and voltages throughout Europe. There's lot left to do within EU if train is to compete with lorry.

[citytransportinfo]

yes but with ERTMS so the signalling issue can be solved. Modern electronics means that the voltage issue is also of less consequence.

As for cost, well, how do cost the negative affects of lung disease?

Air pollution from motor vehicles is a serious problem which is killing thousands, annually. That we allow this is a blight on our so called 'civilisation'.

simon

[LMB222]

Looks like we are switching here from arguments to emotional issues (trains also pollute, but at the power station), so EOT for me.