OLDIES R THE BEST BETTER THAN THE MISIC THEY PLAY NOW. I PICK THEM OVER ANY OTHER KIND OF MUSIC THEY HAVE SO MUCH MEANING TO THEM. A.K. A. BIG BOOTY HUERA
Somebody Plz...wake my ass up. Im tired of getting hurt. without Jesus im gonna get pain and somemore pain. I dont need a man.. Brothers and sisters stop giving into the flesh like I did and once again I know noone can take this pain away over a man but God, not getting drunk, or getting another man. ,,
@mrsbadomen ,HEY DOG LOVER ,I DISAGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENET.REGARDING THE BANGERS,RAZA, MEXICANS ,CHICANOS,LATINOS. WE COME FROM A BACK ROUND OF LOVE,LISTENING TO OLDIES ND ASWELL EXPRESSING OUR NON VIOLENCE PICTURES !!!! FOR YOU ,YOURSELF TO DEPICT US . ASTONISHED I AM NOT !!!!!!!!! ...................HYPOCRITE U ARE EXACTLY! FUK VIOLENCE LMAO . WHATS IN YOUR CLOSET OR SHALL I SAY YOUR FAMILIES ??GOODTHING ABOUT BEING AMERICAN /LATINO " FREEDOM OF SPEECH"
@themendezfamily7678 THATS RIGHT BRO freedom of speach! And i am a mexican american! And Its MRS dog lover to you homie. LOVE,NON VIOLENCE? reallly ?? lemme guess homie,u from down south? Would you welcome a Northern Girl like myself into the hood with open arms? NO U WOULDNT! However id welcome you and any1 else.I left that all phuked up life Long ago.It got me no where but prison yards. U asked me about skelatons in my or my fams closet? aint none here bro.My life is an open book.
@themendezfamily7678 lol Lil pissant.Stay over ther on ur side n keep spray painting the walls n wearn ur pants off ur azz n do ur future prison sentence while i stack my chips over here.Come see me when u ready to get put up on sum game! Dont make me get all "throw back" on u n throw a can of Aqua Net atchu while i draw sum eyebrows on ur "ol lady" with a sharpie!
mezmorizing !!!!! i dont kno how many tears i shed with dis song to my first love aaww yeah fist was da best!!! i remember how u feel dat ur gonna die without him wow crazee!!!
Brings back memories of good old CSU - Central State University in Wilberforce Ohio my freshman year. Good friends, good times, memories that can never be replaced.
@MsClassof1969 My God, thank you for sharing the real meaning to this song! Glad you're with us! May Our Lord Bless You With Many More Years! My Admiration and Respect To You!, MsClassof1969.
t explain my misery she walked out on me . an now i dsatnd herrte with judst a memmory ,,,, somebody opleaseeeeeeeee .... pleaseeeee ooohhhhhh somebody plesb womt u help; meeeeeeeeeee ...... .....
1 day ago DONT READ THIS. YOU WILL GET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE. HOWEVER IF YOU DONT POST THIS COMMENT TO AT LEAST 3 VIDEOS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS. NOW UV STARTED READIN DIS DUNT STOP THIS IS SO SCARY. SEND THIS OVER TO 5 VIDEOS IN 143 MINUTES WHEN UR DONE PRESS F6 AND UR CRUSHES NAME WILL APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS. THIS IS SO SCARY Cuz IT ACTUALLY WORKS THIS reaLLY WORKS!!!!!
YOUNG MEN GOING TO WAR IN VIETNAM FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA , I REMEMBER BACK IN LINCOLN HIEGHTS IN THE 60'S , WE WERE PROUD OF ARE BROTHER WHO FOUGHT , RIGHT OR WRONG THEY STIL STEP UP.. THANK YOU GUYS , THIS SONG REMINDS ME OF THOSE YOUNG MEN..
why buck? i dont understand. I guess you had your own reason. But we miss you . I really wish that you were here. Tell Lacy Joe aka Indio that i miss him. I put that on everything. I will tell all the holmies. You are a Sureno.
to my homie Indio. we miss you holmie. it is wat it is. ill c u soon carnal. i love you and miss u.. we all miss you. tell buck, that jerry is doing good. And that he misses her.She did good. We miss u tia. Big time.
daaaaaanm k va con esta rola...have you guys take a moment nad realize que casi todos nosotros los latinos (most chicanos and mexicanos) make'm mas famosas las oldies?
k moxxa cancion!!!! m hace recordar prexioxos momentos....y amores lejanos k kiza nunca s realizen....AMORES PROHIBIDOS malos pero k rikos!!!! Turtle t amare siempre!!!!!!
i use to get stone with this song n i never put atencion to it until my ruka walk away from my proposal of mariage n am still in love with her i love this rola i still love u flaka babe am sorry im a culero n everything forget me!!!!!!
I was the lead guitar player on the song. The lead singer's name was James. They years have went by and I can't remember his last name. We were all from Indianapolis.
Yanno. I think it was 1970. We recorded this at Omits recording studio in Indianapolis. I played lead guitar on this record. The last time I was with the Vanguards we did a show at the Paladium in Ohio. On the same show was The Five Stairsteps and Jerry Butler. I remember Isaac Hayes was at the show.
deamn this sonng reminds at my brother i dont know why but he wrote in his room "some body please your stnand carnalitos" he ask for help when he gets drgus any way i love him
I remember those old cholo days with the homies i am half black and half mexican but my skin is pure black .But those were the days when we would iron and crease our dickies pants and our shirts and T-Shirts man and our hair slicked combed back bumping oldies with faded tattoos on our arms and neck. And Wow Memories that i always rememeber...
payso did a remix of this song some one should like that song
angel63560 2 hours ago
ive aLways Liked this song since Like 7th grade mary jane 408 san jo waass up
02mzmickey 9 hours ago
~S0MEB0Dy PLZ~ NEVER qETZ 0lD !
Leanna1408 11 hours ago
Who know the name of this song that's like ooooooooohhhh my darling, my angel or something like that
AyoWazGUCCI 2 days ago
@AyoWazGUCCI Angel baby
angel63560 2 hours ago
Great song
nooneuknowhere66 1 week ago
ws.echoxparque bee boy
gabbylokes 1 week ago
Agreed you can't go wrong with oldies :)
GeeBella1 2 weeks ago
OLDIES R THE BEST BETTER THAN THE MISIC THEY PLAY NOW. I PICK THEM OVER ANY OTHER KIND OF MUSIC THEY HAVE SO MUCH MEANING TO THEM. A.K. A. BIG BOOTY HUERA
Huera1968 2 weeks ago
Damn.. iLove Oldies 3
Chavez801UT 3 weeks ago
Juaritoz and Chuco Town (915) Memories : .
EV1L21 3 weeks ago
Cali memmories
TheCWalk213 3 weeks ago
So fine. Real. Just great. Thanks so much.
Dave40522 4 weeks ago
Love to turn this rola up... nuthin like them firme oldiez baby...
PaYaSa208 1 month ago
Gotta love the oldies Salas Califas 14 831
Ncalifas831 1 month ago
<3 </3 <3
jessesbaybee 1 month ago
Great song, thanks joan
mxcv00 1 month ago
This is a very good oldie song , always great to bump at all times and emotions after this I'm going to listen brentons i want love
SouthxCentralxNigga 1 month ago
THIS A BAD ASS JAM. MISTER STRANGER ALLEY LOCOS 13. VALLE 818.
strangerals 2 months ago
suave..
MrDeaddaddy1 2 months ago
Does anybody who listens to oldies on YouTube actually know how to spell words?
HomelessOnline 2 months ago
FLORES thats rite this is the nuthafucken jam
oxchitl 2 months ago
Yup..yup firme rola
WestCoastRedskin 2 months ago
Hey everyone this Rola/ thread isnt here to get your bang on! just sit back on the porch with a nice cold corona and enjoy life!
DAVIDJULIAS 2 months ago 8
Does anyone know where I can get the guitar
chords for this song.
chicago12ful 2 months ago
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I remember seeing the vanguards at victory field(indianapolis) at one of those free summer concerts in like 1968-69
ridetotheground 2 months ago
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I remember seeing the vanguards at victory field(indianapolis) at one of those free summer concerts in like 1968-69
ridetotheground 2 months ago
I remember seeing the vanguards at victory field(indianapolis) at one of those free summer concerts in like 1968-69
ridetotheground 2 months ago
firme rola im happy other gente appreciate it
ramires1325 3 months ago
Somebody Plz...wake my ass up. Im tired of getting hurt. without Jesus im gonna get pain and somemore pain. I dont need a man.. Brothers and sisters stop giving into the flesh like I did and once again I know noone can take this pain away over a man but God, not getting drunk, or getting another man. ,,
vls62 3 months ago
some bring good memories some bring bad ese
lyriks562 3 months ago
Oldies will never die and this is coming from a 15 year old
cenationfan11 4 months ago
Somebody plzzzzzzzzzz :(
espinozaricky714 4 months ago
Good song
goofy420247 4 months ago
oooooh shit!!!! somebody plzzzzzzzzzz
MrReachavm 5 months ago
yea it would be even better to watch n listen to the oldies without the bangers posten pics up of themselves they ruin it man,smh! fuk violence!
mrsbadomen 5 months ago
@mrsbadomen ,HEY DOG LOVER ,I DISAGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENET.REGARDING THE BANGERS,RAZA, MEXICANS ,CHICANOS,LATINOS. WE COME FROM A BACK ROUND OF LOVE,LISTENING TO OLDIES ND ASWELL EXPRESSING OUR NON VIOLENCE PICTURES !!!! FOR YOU ,YOURSELF TO DEPICT US . ASTONISHED I AM NOT !!!!!!!!! ...................HYPOCRITE U ARE EXACTLY! FUK VIOLENCE LMAO . WHATS IN YOUR CLOSET OR SHALL I SAY YOUR FAMILIES ??GOODTHING ABOUT BEING AMERICAN /LATINO " FREEDOM OF SPEECH"
themendezfamily7678 3 months ago
@themendezfamily7678 THATS RIGHT BRO freedom of speach! And i am a mexican american! And Its MRS dog lover to you homie. LOVE,NON VIOLENCE? reallly ?? lemme guess homie,u from down south? Would you welcome a Northern Girl like myself into the hood with open arms? NO U WOULDNT! However id welcome you and any1 else.I left that all phuked up life Long ago.It got me no where but prison yards. U asked me about skelatons in my or my fams closet? aint none here bro.My life is an open book.
mrsbadomen 3 months ago
@mrsbadomen PART2.So learn to respect when grown folks talkn insteed of what u call urself checkn a bitch.aiiiiiight? nuff said.
mrsbadomen 3 months ago
@themendezfamily7678 lol Lil pissant.Stay over ther on ur side n keep spray painting the walls n wearn ur pants off ur azz n do ur future prison sentence while i stack my chips over here.Come see me when u ready to get put up on sum game! Dont make me get all "throw back" on u n throw a can of Aqua Net atchu while i draw sum eyebrows on ur "ol lady" with a sharpie!
mrsbadomen 3 months ago
my bunnii........... SOMEBODY PLEASE!
ElChiNo11o11 5 months ago
Oldies para siempre
420karen1 5 months ago
ONE OF MY FAVES!! THANX IVE BEEN LOOKIN FOR THIS SONG
Lizz82Merlo 5 months ago
A good jam used to play it every morning at my boy timos pad thinking of this hyna right here
l4dyburg0s 5 months ago
It took me FOREVER To find out the name of this song < 3 I Found it on one of my moms Cds and just fell in love with it ! R.I.P Mommy < 3 I Love you
AdvantaqeeKills 5 months ago
This is the jam rite here!
Ncalifas831 5 months ago
i need a minnute to explain my misery..the guy that i love..walked out on me and now im in tears with just a memory
SuperGbaby22 6 months ago
it makes me remember the old days i had with my love one :(
fiercechick125 6 months ago
I still love u babe RIP kalin :(
rosieespejel 7 months ago
wow i can hit the replay button on this song and never get tired of it
marymary2091 7 months ago
BIG UPS TO THE 818 BABY PLAYFUL MS VALLE
DJGAMAYO 7 months ago
Wow love this song The boy that i love he walked out on me AWWWWW SAD
BUT LOVE THIS SONG
Ashleylafreak 8 months ago
thats what I call music k buena cansio
taimes18 8 months ago
thats what I call music
taimes18 8 months ago
That's me playing lead guitar on this record.
elvisaggy 8 months ago
@elvisaggy joey is that you? hit me up we got to get in the lab again
halwil03 8 months ago
Bomb ass jam!
sheilamartinez619 8 months ago
mezmorizing !!!!! i dont kno how many tears i shed with dis song to my first love aaww yeah fist was da best!!! i remember how u feel dat ur gonna die without him wow crazee!!!
wendy78ist 9 months ago 4
@wendy78ist I REMEMBER WITH MY MAN DAM IT WAS GREAT TILL THEY CAUGHT HIS ASS I MISS MY THUMPER / AVES FOR/EVER LA DOPEY STYLE BABY
marykills1980 2 months ago
mezmorizing !!!!!
wendy78ist 9 months ago
I looove oldies! Unforgettable memories...
OrangeCountyChick36 10 months ago
Damn Rola Bien Buena!!!!!
spudzkillz 10 months ago
badass rola
ChicanoRapMusic4Life 10 months ago
Para mi Reyna, Susana M. I still love you! You know who!
ezgoing18 10 months ago
fo real somebody please....
hiphoplivesthrume 10 months ago
firme song. . . ..
MyMusiclover8 10 months ago
Brings back memories of good old CSU - Central State University in Wilberforce Ohio my freshman year. Good friends, good times, memories that can never be replaced.
MsClassof1969 1 year ago
@MsClassof1969 My God, thank you for sharing the real meaning to this song! Glad you're with us! May Our Lord Bless You With Many More Years! My Admiration and Respect To You!, MsClassof1969.
ezgoing18 10 months ago
t explain my misery she walked out on me . an now i dsatnd herrte with judst a memmory ,,,, somebody opleaseeeeeeeee .... pleaseeeee ooohhhhhh somebody plesb womt u help; meeeeeeeeeee ...... .....
mrgundam88 1 year ago 2
this iss onee of myy topp oldiess<33
i lovee thiss songg<3(:
ranessalowkks25 1 year ago
Best Oldie Ever!!!!!
grayskurl 1 year ago
This touches the soul.
BEAN2408 1 year ago
Never gets old..
iloveeyebrow 1 year ago
this is song is my favorite song ever
thegiggles123456 1 year ago
THIS IS MY OLDIE JAM FROM LOCA SAD GIRL ,SHAAAAAAAAAAA
SADGIRL431 1 year ago
thats right thats right!!!!
daisynwat 1 year ago
THESE IS THE HIT !!
LABETTYBOOPNO1 1 year ago
damn yall must have dug deep your archives thank
godbtheluv 1 year ago
this song puts all oldies to shame lol!!! good song to catch a buzz to.
MejiaandCital 1 year ago
I really love this song! Man I remember since when I was young...
ssouxieQ 1 year ago
1 day ago DONT READ THIS. YOU WILL GET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE. HOWEVER IF YOU DONT POST THIS COMMENT TO AT LEAST 3 VIDEOS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS. NOW UV STARTED READIN DIS DUNT STOP THIS IS SO SCARY. SEND THIS OVER TO 5 VIDEOS IN 143 MINUTES WHEN UR DONE PRESS F6 AND UR CRUSHES NAME WILL APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS. THIS IS SO SCARY Cuz IT ACTUALLY WORKS THIS reaLLY WORKS!!!!!
krazi3luvs2fac3 1 year ago
This Jam reminds me of my younger days
1lalissa 1 year ago
YOUNG MEN GOING TO WAR IN VIETNAM FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA , I REMEMBER BACK IN LINCOLN HIEGHTS IN THE 60'S , WE WERE PROUD OF ARE BROTHER WHO FOUGHT , RIGHT OR WRONG THEY STIL STEP UP.. THANK YOU GUYS , THIS SONG REMINDS ME OF THOSE YOUNG MEN..
mryellowcrown 1 year ago
DAMM HOMIES I GET GOOSE BUMPS JUST LISTEN TO THIS JAMM.. MEMORIES FLOW RIGHT BACK....
rochaeduardo1 1 year ago 2
why buck? i dont understand. I guess you had your own reason. But we miss you . I really wish that you were here. Tell Lacy Joe aka Indio that i miss him. I put that on everything. I will tell all the holmies. You are a Sureno.
lisa2693 1 year ago
to my homie Indio. we miss you holmie. it is wat it is. ill c u soon carnal. i love you and miss u.. we all miss you. tell buck, that jerry is doing good. And that he misses her.She did good. We miss u tia. Big time.
lisa2693 1 year ago
FUK YEA DIZ JAMZ THA BADDEST....
1aidee2008 1 year ago
What up in Tennessee... and dont even ask me why, but this shit town is funky
lynda000 1 year ago
wuz up to all da homies up in chowchilla
annette3688 1 year ago
dis rola is mas firme que wow wow...
annette3688 1 year ago
OLDIES!!!!!!!
southeaslos13 2 years ago
give me just a minute to explaaaain, LOVE THIS ROLA......for ever oldies
ralphyPalphy 2 years ago
_O_ @ elvisaggy!
JohnStaal020 2 years ago
somebody please. Straight gettin faded in the poc town with my lil sis monica
CrazyBeautiful805 2 years ago
con esta rolita nos hemos pisteado a toda madre todos los camaradas del barrio.saludos desde tijuas a todos los vatos que les pasan las oldies-.
firmes664 2 years ago
so beautiful sweet memories
donnab4real 2 years ago
yes on the dancefloor ... but not in Real -Life baby !
ELRANDY11 2 years ago
srtaight getting faded with my bitches on a sunday afternoon. Gone Insane LOMPOC
CrazyBeautiful805 2 years ago
oldies but goodies
macdaddyo2 2 years ago
firme rola
1essjsharkyloc4 2 years ago
THIS IS THE JAM! TWEETY
wildestwdream 2 years ago
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i luv diz song
pollo13sanchez13 2 years ago
sweet rola
thrillmee 2 years ago
now this is music i love this song
vallero818lvt 2 years ago
...s0meb0dyy Plsz... :(
jetcps 2 years ago
ii fUCKiiNq lOVE DiiSz ROlA...iiT MAKESz ME CRy lMAO ;) lOl
BABYl0KAX3 2 years ago
this song me resembles happy moments of my jouth...............thank you for this unforgettable memory
fernandez1330 2 years ago
FiRME ASS S0NG
SilENtWSL 2 years ago 2
daaaaaanm k va con esta rola...have you guys take a moment nad realize que casi todos nosotros los latinos (most chicanos and mexicanos) make'm mas famosas las oldies?
ralphyPalphy 2 years ago 3
k moxxa cancion!!!! m hace recordar prexioxos momentos....y amores lejanos k kiza nunca s realizen....AMORES PROHIBIDOS malos pero k rikos!!!! Turtle t amare siempre!!!!!!
miloveification 2 years ago
I Love This Sonqq!! Always Gotta Listen To It!!!
oliesZzzz<3333
LADYREEPER13 2 years ago 14
@LADYREEPER13 DAM RIGHT I LOVE THIS SONG ;D
MsSteph39 1 year ago
@LADYREEPER13
now that is so true never get out played
mygluv 7 months ago
@LADYREEPER13 this is one of the best songs ever. Sure from Oldies section... Fantastic classic
CRYPTfromCATACOMBZ 6 months ago
i use to get stone with this song n i never put atencion to it until my ruka walk away from my proposal of mariage n am still in love with her i love this rola i still love u flaka babe am sorry im a culero n everything forget me!!!!!!
lebruje1 2 years ago 3
i love this song!!! i feel your pain homie, dont trip too hard...better days ahead!!
y89r 2 years ago 3
FIRME ROLLA
2495676 2 years ago
LOVE THIS SHIT!!!
1503PHUNK 2 years ago
luv dis song i get very emotional every time i listen 2 dis song oldies 4 life!!!
1essjsharkyloc4 2 years ago
MY FAVORITE OLDIE=(
blalimon 2 years ago
I FuKiN LoVe ThIs SoNg...ItS SaD BuT FiRmE
esaNeNa1000 2 years ago 2
this is my favorite oldie!!
Somebody Pleasee....
You2beSongs3 2 years ago
ummm this song is dopr like when u leave someone or when they leave ya wow somebody plz lol
ordunez64 2 years ago
Somebody please....
HassanAliMirza1990 2 years ago
i luv thiz song. First i was hear i mean ago year. Luv thiz song
CRYPTfromCATACOMBZ 2 years ago
southsiders check your self if you talk like norteno with that hella bullshit porfas slap your self for me plz
funkiador92832 3 years ago
who sings this song, cuz god i love this song so much!!! its like my life right now!!
vlynnh1 3 years ago 2
I was the lead guitar player on the song. The lead singer's name was James. They years have went by and I can't remember his last name. We were all from Indianapolis.
elvisaggy 2 years ago
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BROWNSCROWN 3 years ago
That's me playing lead guitar on this song.
elvisaggy 3 years ago
where are the Vangaurds from, this is one of the best jams of alltime.
bmwstan 3 years ago
@elvisaggy What year did you play.69-70? One of the greatest records ever made.
jameycruz 2 years ago
Yanno. I think it was 1970. We recorded this at Omits recording studio in Indianapolis. I played lead guitar on this record. The last time I was with the Vanguards we did a show at the Paladium in Ohio. On the same show was The Five Stairsteps and Jerry Butler. I remember Isaac Hayes was at the show.
Thanks,
Elvis Aggy
elvisaggy 2 years ago
nice song i like
ratbombgtjc 3 years ago 2
kick ass
ratbombgtjc 3 years ago
i love this rola hella firme =)
esababylocax3 3 years ago
muey southsider and talking like a chapete lame ass fooes from up north talk like that HELLA shit
funkiador92832 3 years ago 3
tanks for your comment greatings from mexico
bapoQajo 3 years ago
i love this song because it reminds me of teardrop, when we used to party and get high. REAL HIGH!
blueeberry26 3 years ago 2
REAL HIGHHHH!!!
Kevin10049 3 years ago
deamn this sonng reminds at my brother i dont know why but he wrote in his room "some body please your stnand carnalitos" he ask for help when he gets drgus any way i love him
bapoQajo 3 years ago
mabey u should listen and help him...
CrazyTweakFreak 3 years ago
firm3 rola!!!
i like the capone-e version too
azulkrema619 3 years ago
this is the best
killsforax7 3 years ago 10
I remember those old cholo days with the homies i am half black and half mexican but my skin is pure black .But those were the days when we would iron and crease our dickies pants and our shirts and T-Shirts man and our hair slicked combed back bumping oldies with faded tattoos on our arms and neck. And Wow Memories that i always rememeber...
Grafo7771 11 months ago
damn this song reminds me of my younger years...love this song.. keep your head up to all my raza... norma in phoenix
xmsxrodriguez 3 years ago
dAMN tHiS SONG!..fUCk...rEMiNdS mEEh Of gOOd tiMES ANd tHE bAd ONE AlSO bUt i LOVE tHiS OLDiE SO MUCh!...=]...
bornthiz 3 years ago
i love this song so much it reminds me of that special someone
eddy189 3 years ago 2
damn firme rola
GoodbyeRS 3 years ago 2
i love dis song and i dedicate this song to all the homies
cheerpen101 3 years ago
ESE DUBA RIP V EL MONTE HICKS SUR X 13
ORLANDO878 3 years ago
to all the valleros in the cochella valley
closellis 3 years ago
down ass rola ese dremerx13
ORLANDO878 3 years ago
firme ass rola puro chuco town 13~!!!!
sickboy91513 3 years ago
hell ya hella old lol idu olide but goodies i lubb dat song e tambien de lil blacky check it out1
TwisteDmineStaRz 4 years ago
probably my favourite oldie tune
CentHunned 4 years ago
hey are you sure this are The Vanguards
ipooponYouTub3 4 years ago
firme rola!!!
sickboy91513 4 years ago
bad ass!!!!!
BIGGS2355 4 years ago
The song reminds me of the good old days I lived in Bakesfield kicking it with the jinas in the barrios. GOOD OLD TIMES
ybacd 4 years ago