Man, crates are awesome, god I'd love to get my hands on a 572. So the 632 are rated at over 1100HP? Sounds awesome, I'd rather have more power by getting the 632 over the 572, the problem is from what I read is that because the cylinder walls are bored bigger making them thinner as well, therefore that they have a higher tendency to crack than the 572's and smaller do. But I guess sometimes you've got to sacrifice power over the integrity of your engine and vice versa. Still awesome engine tho
@Entertainmentcenter...Actually, this is an aftermarket block designed to be bored that big. Trying to go that big with a Chevy block wouldn't be a good idea...you'll run ino the cooling jackets. This block is a Dart block and has the cylinders "Siamesed," which means there are no cooling jackets between them.
@496Monte so it has the cylenders siamesed like the 400 small block. do you have to bring the heads to a machine shop to get steam holes drilled in them like the 400?
Nice car, let me know if you ever need a bulletproof Maddogtransmission. My shop phone is 770-781-0949 I would love to build you one of my transmissions. Thanks MaddogLou.
dude u made my 4th of july, how much boost and r u over or under driven, god so badass love to see that carlo, love the first ones, class with more then enoghf power to kick ur ass, u need to spred the gospel and convert some honda guys, but they couldnt comprehend that monsters Torque curve, not that they know what one is that would blow there 2 L out of the water like hiroshima, keep up the good fight blood brother we both bleed orange
For those of you who care, over July 4 weekend I picked up Lou Gramm (the lead signer of Foreigner) from his hotel and brought him to a show he was putting on in Big Bear Lake, CA.
Video was taken and posted on YouTube. This comments thing won't let me post the link, so search You Tube for "Lou Gramm Car" (without the quotes) and the video should be the first result.
Gives a better idea of what the car looks like now.
logic2reason your wrong. a car that puts the same amount of power at a lower rpm range is making more power. If the car thats making 1000hp at 6000rpms were to rev up to 8000rpms like the other car, it would make more than 1000hp. Thats just common sense.
Power curves would say otherwise. There's a point where increasing RPMs do not increase horsepower due to the maximum flow being reached through the cylinder heads/intake/etc.
Pushing an engine rated for 6000rpms to 8000+ would probably send a rod through the oilpan.
Thanks to those with the good comments. And to the others, well, let me know when you are ready and we'll line up for the 1320 (that's 1/4 mile for those of you not familiar with drag racing).
The car was painted candy red almost a year ago and is back at the body shop now for a little touch up. Took 40 awards during the summer, including 6 "Best Of Show" awards.
When I get it back from the shop, I'll post more videos of the entire car.
hu gives a shit about a 1.5 litre twin turbo v6 i guarantee it will sound no where near as good as the v8 in the video. plus the torque frm it wiil rip ya face off!
hp is hp. moving a car, energy is put into the car to move it. That energy is defined as Hp. 1000hp will move the same weight just the same as another 1000hp REGARDLESS of how it made the 1000hp( meaning change the tq but keep the 1000hp constant.) so, saying the v8 will be faster cuase of the tq is fucking stupid. If it did, then it would have more power, hp. hp is hp. try reading a book from time to time... and whats worse, is some assclown who is just as dumb, gave you a thumbs up.. lol. sad
a fast car needs 3 things in order to be fast Horsepower, Torque, and the third is most crucial a good driver! and dont give me the BS that if its automatic you cant fuck up cause I have seen quite a few people do it.
i agree, but to get more tq at the wheel, at any velocity, requries more hp. not more crank tq. .. more crank tq will not give you more tq at the wheel unless you increase the power output.... trust me...aim for hp numbers, not crank tq numbers.
im not talking about auto or stick. im talking about moving a car. it requires power. becuase i can apply tq to a bolt, and not lossen it. same as a car. i can put tq on the wheel, put it in park, and the tq wont do anything. But if the car doesnt move, then no Hp is being outputted. Thats the catch. And trust me when i say, more power= faster car. look up the specs. list cars basd on tq output and power. And look at the top of the list. IT WILL NOT BE HIGH TQ MOTORS. ONLY high HP. class dismiss
im saying that 1000hp determines how fast you can move an object. The crank tq output does not determine how fast a car will move. The energy output does. a 1000hp car will wheelies better or could anyways, than say a 600hp car. becuase more acceleration is requires to lift the front off the ground. That coems from energy output, i.e HP!. what your saying is the same as this. A 1000hp and 8,000rpms car can wheelie better than a 1000hp car and 6,000rpms.
does the rpm output have anyhting to do with a wheelie? NO! neiher does crank tq. its the combination of the 2. how much tq your making at the crank and how fast yor revving. its that simple. If you want a faster car, get more power. end of story
this statement is wrong: "A 1000hp at 8,000rpms car can wheelie better than a 1000hp car at 6,000rpms. " that would mean the car at 8grand would be putting out 657 ft-lbs, and the 6 grand car would be putting out 875 ft-lbs. they would be both putting down 1000 hp but one would be putting more force to the ground, aka the 6grand one, that is, if they had the same trannies and diffs
my statement was a 1000hp car can wheelie the same as another 1000hp car. crank tq does not = wheel tq..... its to bad you do not know this idea... seeing as it has to do with your car and your ignorant on the subject......1000hp is the energy imput into moving the mass.... if 1000hp can accelerate a car faster than another 1000hp... i would love to see it, becuase it would change the laws of physics as you know it..... good ridence, moron
oh so youre some fuckin physicist are you? youre whole idea of crank torque and wheel torque doest even matter, its pretty frictionless and something with more torque is gunna put more force to the ground anyways, if u didnt know f=ma, torque is whats giving you acceleration, cock sucker... high horsepower gives speed
wow... your retarded. Hp is based on velocity. Which mean, when you change the speed, the force changes... I know more about f=m*a than you do. believe me. If more 100hp did more more work than 80hp with more tq, then would it not be more than 100hp??????? The amount of hp produce determes how much energy went into the moving mass. There is more at work that a simple stupid formula. If it was that simple why spend years learning the idea? when a moron like you can say 600lbs tq is more than 400
so in ur magical land where torque and acceleration mean nothing 1000horsepower, and 1 ft lb of torque will accelerate at the same rate as a car with 1000 horsepower and 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ft lbs of torque? u accel with torque and ur limited to the amount of hp u have.
Power is function(product) of torque and RPM. So If you have small engine like Formula 1, have older 3.0L V10 with 1000bhp and little 200Ibs-ft you need very high RPM, usually more than 15,000 all over to 20,000 to accelerate very fast, because these engines produce peak torque at high RPM. High displacement engines like americans, produce huge amount of torque at low RPM (1500-3000, some of them even to 4500-5000 RPM) so don't need rev it to high.
632 CUI engine produce lot's of torque at low RPM but if this engine produce 1000bhp it's same like F1 because needs lower RPM to reach that power (and all that because small engine suffer to displacement). Now, if you have Formula 1 engine in Camaro, and 632 CUI in same car, because of weight big block wins at accelerating. Now if you have Cart of F1 which is lighter you actually getting better traction than with 632 CUI in same cart. In that case Cart with small engine wins.
@2jzgtejza80 torque is what gets you moving like a bat out of hell, so with all that torque that v8 would win..also you forgot to mention the drivetrain assiting the engine..a bit of common sense and this v8 would eat that stupid free reving cart of the line..except the cart can rev higher so it would wind up and win in speed..plus a V8 sounds, looks and goes better than a F1 engine..more displacement means more power. why do you think they elimanted the V10 from F1
Typical primitive thinking. Do some research and than we can talk. It's more than engineering, and many people in the world still today dont understand why apple fall down from tree. Good bye.
if 1000hp did more work than another 1000hp then IT WOULDNT HAVE 1000HP!!!! om fucking GOD. its like talking to 8yr olds.... power output determines how much WHEEL TQ you can have any any velocity or gear ratio. If 1000hp with more tq did more work then it would have more than 1000hp... this is why you pay for an education. Cuase people can't seem to learn this shit by themselves...
yea but dude.. when engines are designed, its all designed about the torque output of the engine.. what determines the peak torque is based on engine design.. what gives wheels more spinning force, i.e. able to burn out is torque, and that would be able to make u wheelie. go drive ur car, sit on the peak torque rpm and gun it, do the same with ur peak hp, u will see that peak torque rpm has more acceleration by far
wheel tq is only increased by adding power, or reducing the revolutions at which the wheel turns. A motor only produces the mathematical number of tq. The design of the motor can change at what rpm the tq is made. 5tq@100rpm is 2 times better than 5tq@50rpms. Because a tranny can reduce the 100rpm to 50, thus doubling the tq output. This is why the 5@100 has 2 times the power. power is tq@velocity. And the peak tq and hp are 2 different things. you will pull the hardest at peak tq, true, but
only becuase tq output is crank tq x ratio. Since oyu dont change gears to hit both peak tq and hp, the highest tq output would put the highest wheel tq to the ground. unfortunetly your completly forgetting about time. if you changed the gears so the first car was at peak tq, and made another set to peak hp, while both cars were at same velocity, then the peak hp will always win. law of thermo, transfer of energy. hp output determines how fast you can accelerate a mass. 200hp is better than 180
when a car will less tq but peak hp, what that means, is if you reduced the rpms to match the peak tq, the actual output shaft will have more power/tq. ex. 100tq@5000, 90@6000. peak tq=100@5000... 6000/5000=1.2 , 90x1.2=108tq. only reason why you pull harder at peak tq is you cant change gears.. to run a faster 1/2 mile, run at highest hp. for after you reach peak tq, you would shift to enter peak tq again, while another car after reaching pk tq would keep going till pk hp. thus pulling on you
anyways, if you want to pull a tree truck, rev at peak tq, sicne time is not a concern. if your racing, where time is a concern, run your car at peak hp. hp always wins. if you still dont udnerstand, pm me. im sick of typing letters to respond 500 at a time... Im study Mechanical Engineering. trust me, science doesnt invent units of energy or shit like that just to waste time. energy in = energy out. energy is hp. more hp, faster car.. tq can vary the same as rpm. end result = power
when you race, u shift so you land on the peak torque, btw i am in engineering physics. why would anyone want a v8 with 500 horsepower when u can get a inline 6 that has 500 horsepower? because the v8 has way more torque (also lower redline)
if your into engineering physics, then you need to learn about thermodynamics. beucase there is no way a 500hp v6 is slower than a 500hp v8. both have the same amount of energy. IF the v8 was faster then it would be required by ALL LAWS of physics to have more power. HEnse why its called Hp/weight ratio/... not tq/weight.
im aware. But what we are referring to is power output. since energy cant be created nor destroyed. The amount of energy given out as output has to be accounted for. This is why more hp always means a faster car. i was trying to state that crank tq has NO indication of performance is any aspect..
I see where your going with this and you are correct with the aspect regarding horses, but horsepower is based on a peak at a respective rpm. Two motors can make, lets say 300 horses, one can peak at 8k rpm, the other can make over 250 ponies between 3k and 6k. If they both peak at the same, the latter will definately pull a quicker time. Overall power is more important than the specific output. Look at the OVERALL picture, not numbers like a magazine junkie
it still holds true. Take any given instant in time, whether or not they are at peak hp, just use the hp that is produced at that rpm. If a 250hp peak motor can make more power @5000rpms than a 400hp motor can, well then why argue 250vs 400 when thats not the power output? its called hp curve. the car whos power output was on average higher will win. im not a mag junkie, im a MEchanical engineer trying to help you, not the other way around..
i was using peak power as an argument as in both run at peak pwoer the whole time... you can use the same logic at any given pt in time. off the line. which car is outputting more hp will ALWAYS launch harder... having a 800hp 1.8l turbo doesnt do much unless your at 800hp. running at 2K rpm will net probably 200hp, thus at that pt in time, 200hp is inputted. thus another 200hp motor would pull just the same at that pt, if it was producing 200hp also. 200hp is 200hp
you guys are both retarded. its not just about numbers, its about the driver too. and above all its about the gearing. if your car isnt geared to fit your HP curve then its worthless. the laws of thermodynamics cannot be applied directly to drag racing, they can only evaluate the motor. and yes, i have taken thermo 1 and 2.
well gearing affects power output. So my statement still holds true. Your the only one that is confused with your own ideas. Clearly you MAY have taken the class. That is no indication as to whether or not you understood it. And clearly you dont...
Remeber that hp and tq are directly proportional. In the simplest terms tq gets the load moving, hp keeps it moving. Since hp is a measure of tq over a given time. Tq is the way you find hp, since a dyno measures tq, then calculates hp. In short the car who carries more torque for a longer period of time travels the same distance faster, all other varibles being the same.
if you make 10000 a year. would it matter if you get payed 52 times a year ( every week) for a value of 10000/52 or get payed once a month but 4 times as much per pay... doesnt matter does it? course not. Both make the same amount of "buying " power. To think that 400tq@2000rpms is better than 300@8000 is irrational. its the combination of the 2. bragging about crank tq is like bragging about revving. "so how much power ya got..","8,000rpms!!!" doesnt make sense. same with tq. tq x rpm=power
yeahhh. ur retarded and ill explain why. youre only listing size and bhp. lot more factors than that. a 1.5 liter twin turbo v6 will only get that much power at a ridiculously high rpm with VERY little fuel efficiency, like the 9.3. maxes 1200 bhp with big turbos (so much lag it wnt matter). a 3 liter v10 with 1000bhp? (highly tuned with supercharger or turbo). the 9.3 is a crate engine that u just buy, and besides its a standard pushrod, single cam, carbureted v8. and what about torque? :)
More like smiles to the gallon.
jdog942 8 months ago
Man, crates are awesome, god I'd love to get my hands on a 572. So the 632 are rated at over 1100HP? Sounds awesome, I'd rather have more power by getting the 632 over the 572, the problem is from what I read is that because the cylinder walls are bored bigger making them thinner as well, therefore that they have a higher tendency to crack than the 572's and smaller do. But I guess sometimes you've got to sacrifice power over the integrity of your engine and vice versa. Still awesome engine tho
Entertainmentcenter 10 months ago
@Entertainmentcenter...Actually, this is an aftermarket block designed to be bored that big. Trying to go that big with a Chevy block wouldn't be a good idea...you'll run ino the cooling jackets. This block is a Dart block and has the cylinders "Siamesed," which means there are no cooling jackets between them.
496Monte 10 months ago
@496Monte so it has the cylenders siamesed like the 400 small block. do you have to bring the heads to a machine shop to get steam holes drilled in them like the 400?
russian06374 9 months ago
holy shit man so fucking awesome..mad respect 2 the owner and builder. that thing is beautiful. muscle all the way baby
beegledog2 1 year ago
imagine goin through mcdonalds with that :D
bigrhetty 1 year ago
beautiful, nice work
So0nerMag1c 1 year ago
939 TQ?!?! Thats practically enough torque to rip a house foundation out of the ground .
noekiyu 1 year ago
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MadDogTransmissions 1 year ago
THE AMERICAN DREAM.
Scmshacks 1 year ago
@Scmshacks dont forget the aussies...
thatrowl 1 year ago
Who has the biggest cock now?
jamesmp5k 1 year ago
dude u made my 4th of july, how much boost and r u over or under driven, god so badass love to see that carlo, love the first ones, class with more then enoghf power to kick ur ass, u need to spred the gospel and convert some honda guys, but they couldnt comprehend that monsters Torque curve, not that they know what one is that would blow there 2 L out of the water like hiroshima, keep up the good fight blood brother we both bleed orange
chevyguy434 1 year ago
damn rev the motor up lose half a tank.....god bless american muscle!!!! Hell with all the rice rockets!!!
donkeyak85 1 year ago
wow...
nice sound
adokenk3nnbasil 1 year ago
VIDEO DOES IT NO JUSTICE !!
jaden734 1 year ago
what kind of blower?
RunninCummins 1 year ago
scary...
Primer9 1 year ago
love that sweet sound of the 8-71 and the 632ci itself. i dont think my rear axle of my tacoma would lived up to it. nice setup BTW.
mikeher1001 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT! This mothafucka is crazy!!!!
shawnkrause871 1 year ago
any specs from the dyno?
Sneadster 1 year ago
i just luv how its so loud at an idle that it fucks up the sound on the camra lol great.
my honda could deff beat this lol JK just kidding. stomp lol kidding again.
EnjukuRacing70 2 years ago
Damn, talk about power! FUCK I WANT THAT!
Motorfordtoyota 2 years ago
DAMN!!
19satellite71 2 years ago
Id wet myself ridin shotgun when he punches it! lol
Ttop50ryda 2 years ago
That is sure a thing of beauty. very nice man
TheJohnnychevelle 2 years ago
é metor valente, é só cavalos
portusim75 2 years ago
awesome car u got there can i have it
Ir0nMaidan 2 years ago
thats a fuking awesome
Ir0nMaidan 2 years ago
monte carlos 4 life:) got 1 with a 427 bigblock in it
juggalo1298 2 years ago
i bet need 3-4 salaries to put some gas in that :)))
munteanuioan 2 years ago
nice engine i would love to have that engine
mig123100 2 years ago 3
Fuel Tank will probaly last 5 minutes, with that big beast.
ultrachasersfan 2 years ago 3
Wow That Fucker barely even idles what cam lift is in that fucker just out of curiosity
eDGARfROM432 2 years ago
One can only wonder haha
Honda4wheelin 2 years ago
i call shotgun!
goober239 2 years ago
fuck me running sideways on water thats a sexy motor
alois206 2 years ago 2
OMG I almost spit out my red bull after reading that! LMAO!!! And yes, you're right couldn't agree more!
;)
dreamcarreview 2 years ago
talk about big block
straw1000 2 years ago
who makes the 632
paintballers15 2 years ago
It is stroked GM 572
ht666th 2 years ago
Holy christ on ice skates! That thing sounds incredible man
Toolband42O 2 years ago
never seen a iron headed 632 before
rd2fst 2 years ago
You still haven't. This one has aluminum heads.
496Monte 2 years ago 51
@496Monte Sweet motor man,, How many miles to the gallon? lol
crazyfarmer2009 1 year ago
@crazyfarmer2009 No doubt that car measures mileage in gallons per mile
VwDetour420 11 months ago
@crazyfarmer2009 more like "gallons to the mile" lol
philamato 11 months ago
@philamato no more like gp min
regesman7 8 months ago
Hell yea you goin to let me take it for test drive
theking9986 2 years ago
a 1152 horsepower 1970 monte carlo i am lovin this ride and that is how a real motor looks like now all it needs is to our race a ford lol
isaiah213 2 years ago
For those of you who care, over July 4 weekend I picked up Lou Gramm (the lead signer of Foreigner) from his hotel and brought him to a show he was putting on in Big Bear Lake, CA.
Video was taken and posted on YouTube. This comments thing won't let me post the link, so search You Tube for "Lou Gramm Car" (without the quotes) and the video should be the first result.
Gives a better idea of what the car looks like now.
496Monte 2 years ago
@496Monte 4th july* american
thatrowl 1 year ago
wo that thing is naughty, very naughty
Jcashrulez 2 years ago
what's the torque/horsepower on that thing?
somedude618 2 years ago
its has 632 ive seen those make 900 hp easy + blower i dont know mabey 1200
smashedgnome 2 years ago
1152HP @ 6500 and still on the way up when we terminated the run, 939 TQ @4300.
496Monte 2 years ago
@496Monte Thats really all it makes? I know its a lot but our naturally aspirated 672 makes quite a bit more.
bronsonkidwell 11 months ago
what kinda car is it in
captripper872 2 years ago
read the description...
xox945 2 years ago
o ya i just poopd alittle.... that thing is sweeeet!!
LUNCHBOX762X39 2 years ago
thats suicide
casey69901 2 years ago 5
it probably shits and gets
bathrobebassist 2 years ago
the engine isn t that huge the fuckin nasty supercharger and twin carbs give that size ... BADASS 5 STARS
drkhntr00 2 years ago
they mean the cubic inches dude
hellsdeadjuggalo 2 years ago
omg that size engine should be illegal lol!
shupster369 2 years ago
im sorry
yourmusclecarsucks 2 years ago
thats so ridiculous. lol that motor is too loud for the mic on your camera. hahha. thats when you know you got a good car.
313foxbody420 2 years ago
thats a cute little motor !
tinsel15 2 years ago 2
that would literally burn a hole in the concrete
i would pay anything to drive that thing
pull a joe dirt man
BryceGrover 2 years ago
no and i dont care u R lame
joel92mor 2 years ago
logic2reason your wrong. a car that puts the same amount of power at a lower rpm range is making more power. If the car thats making 1000hp at 6000rpms were to rev up to 8000rpms like the other car, it would make more than 1000hp. Thats just common sense.
TaylorWalkerKean 2 years ago
no. not neccisarily.
evaniskind 2 years ago
Power curves would say otherwise. There's a point where increasing RPMs do not increase horsepower due to the maximum flow being reached through the cylinder heads/intake/etc.
Pushing an engine rated for 6000rpms to 8000+ would probably send a rod through the oilpan.
racer7xx 2 years ago
is it putting out 1200hp
joel92mor 2 years ago
by the way...badd ass motor...i wish i had that thing...nice!!!!
skyfreezie 2 years ago
damn nigga ...nukrz got told....!!!!!!!!!!
skyfreezie 2 years ago
So...do you always hide behind your "sis" and her abilities?
Just let me know when you're ready to line your car up next to mine. Or, you might have to borrow your sister's car from the sound of things...
496Monte 2 years ago
sounds fn terrible shit my sis can do better than this fn fag!!!!
nukrz 2 years ago
BEEFY!!!
novajeff 2 years ago
sounds awesome good job, build it yourself or buy it?
3874916402 2 years ago
I had the short block assembled and I built the rest.
496Monte 2 years ago
Nice, thought my 572 was big, lol. Got to love Canada and the USA, get er done!!!!!!!!!!!!!
christmastreeorange 2 years ago
this is insanity
BoNursukker 2 years ago
It's Official, YOURS is bigger! ;)
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YFUATIW 2 years ago
632... blown. " aint 454 big enough "
Jcashrulez 2 years ago
Apparently you don't f*ck around lol. My 468 seems all that smaller now.
AssGasketBill 2 years ago
blub blub blub!!!! more like glug glug glug the gas! xD
I LOVE IT! ^^
MUSCLE POWER RULES!
LIVE LONG AND FOREVER DETROIT!
Carlosejohn 2 years ago
sweet mercy. a BLOWN 632? can i put that in my '91 gmc s15? somehow i doubt it would fit without some cutting! :-)
emmanuelnimmons 3 years ago
Lots of comments here, and some pretty funny.
Thanks to those with the good comments. And to the others, well, let me know when you are ready and we'll line up for the 1320 (that's 1/4 mile for those of you not familiar with drag racing).
The car was painted candy red almost a year ago and is back at the body shop now for a little touch up. Took 40 awards during the summer, including 6 "Best Of Show" awards.
When I get it back from the shop, I'll post more videos of the entire car.
496Monte 3 years ago
hu gives a shit about a 1.5 litre twin turbo v6 i guarantee it will sound no where near as good as the v8 in the video. plus the torque frm it wiil rip ya face off!
trailpimprider 3 years ago
hp is hp. moving a car, energy is put into the car to move it. That energy is defined as Hp. 1000hp will move the same weight just the same as another 1000hp REGARDLESS of how it made the 1000hp( meaning change the tq but keep the 1000hp constant.) so, saying the v8 will be faster cuase of the tq is fucking stupid. If it did, then it would have more power, hp. hp is hp. try reading a book from time to time... and whats worse, is some assclown who is just as dumb, gave you a thumbs up.. lol. sad
logic2reason 2 years ago
Dude with out tq you aint going any where, well actully you would be but it would be really slow off the line and getting up to speed.
79camaro454bbc 2 years ago
a fast car needs 3 things in order to be fast Horsepower, Torque, and the third is most crucial a good driver! and dont give me the BS that if its automatic you cant fuck up cause I have seen quite a few people do it.
ShinRay 2 years ago
i agree, but to get more tq at the wheel, at any velocity, requries more hp. not more crank tq. .. more crank tq will not give you more tq at the wheel unless you increase the power output.... trust me...aim for hp numbers, not crank tq numbers.
logic2reason 2 years ago
im not saying if you have an automatic you cant fuck up. Hell half the people I race from a running start dont even know to shift down.
79camaro454bbc 2 years ago
im not talking about auto or stick. im talking about moving a car. it requires power. becuase i can apply tq to a bolt, and not lossen it. same as a car. i can put tq on the wheel, put it in park, and the tq wont do anything. But if the car doesnt move, then no Hp is being outputted. Thats the catch. And trust me when i say, more power= faster car. look up the specs. list cars basd on tq output and power. And look at the top of the list. IT WILL NOT BE HIGH TQ MOTORS. ONLY high HP. class dismiss
logic2reason 2 years ago
Im saying you can have 1000 hp but only have 500 tq and not pop a wheely, but with a 1000 hp and 1000 tq u can pop a wheely. Is that what ur saying?
79camaro454bbc 2 years ago
im saying that 1000hp determines how fast you can move an object. The crank tq output does not determine how fast a car will move. The energy output does. a 1000hp car will wheelies better or could anyways, than say a 600hp car. becuase more acceleration is requires to lift the front off the ground. That coems from energy output, i.e HP!. what your saying is the same as this. A 1000hp and 8,000rpms car can wheelie better than a 1000hp car and 6,000rpms.
power is 2 factors. tq and rpm.
logic2reason 2 years ago
high hp = high top speed and going really fast
high torque = acceleration speed. idc if jimmy joe jackass has a high horsepower civic cuz with no damned torque he wnt even get up the on ramp.
adfasdfasdfluy 2 years ago 2
HAHA, amen man! Jimmy Joe Jackass can go shove his little matchbox car up his ass and call himself Rosie O'Donnel for his amount of logic he has..
DZydrunasC 2 years ago
does the rpm output have anyhting to do with a wheelie? NO! neiher does crank tq. its the combination of the 2. how much tq your making at the crank and how fast yor revving. its that simple. If you want a faster car, get more power. end of story
logic2reason 2 years ago
this statement is wrong: "A 1000hp at 8,000rpms car can wheelie better than a 1000hp car at 6,000rpms. " that would mean the car at 8grand would be putting out 657 ft-lbs, and the 6 grand car would be putting out 875 ft-lbs. they would be both putting down 1000 hp but one would be putting more force to the ground, aka the 6grand one, that is, if they had the same trannies and diffs
swss12 2 years ago
my statement was a 1000hp car can wheelie the same as another 1000hp car. crank tq does not = wheel tq..... its to bad you do not know this idea... seeing as it has to do with your car and your ignorant on the subject......1000hp is the energy imput into moving the mass.... if 1000hp can accelerate a car faster than another 1000hp... i would love to see it, becuase it would change the laws of physics as you know it..... good ridence, moron
logic2reason 2 years ago
oh so youre some fuckin physicist are you? youre whole idea of crank torque and wheel torque doest even matter, its pretty frictionless and something with more torque is gunna put more force to the ground anyways, if u didnt know f=ma, torque is whats giving you acceleration, cock sucker... high horsepower gives speed
swss12 2 years ago
wow... your retarded. Hp is based on velocity. Which mean, when you change the speed, the force changes... I know more about f=m*a than you do. believe me. If more 100hp did more more work than 80hp with more tq, then would it not be more than 100hp??????? The amount of hp produce determes how much energy went into the moving mass. There is more at work that a simple stupid formula. If it was that simple why spend years learning the idea? when a moron like you can say 600lbs tq is more than 400
logic2reason 2 years ago
so in ur magical land where torque and acceleration mean nothing 1000horsepower, and 1 ft lb of torque will accelerate at the same rate as a car with 1000 horsepower and 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ft lbs of torque? u accel with torque and ur limited to the amount of hp u have.
adfasdfasdfluy 2 years ago 9
@adfasdfasdfluy
Power is function(product) of torque and RPM. So If you have small engine like Formula 1, have older 3.0L V10 with 1000bhp and little 200Ibs-ft you need very high RPM, usually more than 15,000 all over to 20,000 to accelerate very fast, because these engines produce peak torque at high RPM. High displacement engines like americans, produce huge amount of torque at low RPM (1500-3000, some of them even to 4500-5000 RPM) so don't need rev it to high.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@adfasdfasdfluy
632 CUI engine produce lot's of torque at low RPM but if this engine produce 1000bhp it's same like F1 because needs lower RPM to reach that power (and all that because small engine suffer to displacement). Now, if you have Formula 1 engine in Camaro, and 632 CUI in same car, because of weight big block wins at accelerating. Now if you have Cart of F1 which is lighter you actually getting better traction than with 632 CUI in same cart. In that case Cart with small engine wins.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@2jzgtejza80
perfect!!
damn.. ive seen u somewhere here. cant remember where though but these comments kick some ass. as well as this big block. thumb up.
ht666th 1 year ago
@ht666th
Me?? what?? are u follow me? i believe that ur comment was frendlly.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@2jzgtejza80
what the hell? :D why would I follow.. Of course my comment was friendly!!
I just saw ur nick somewhere else.. cant remember where thought. but who cares.
looks like you know pretty much.
ht666th 1 year ago
@2jzgtejza80 torque is what gets you moving like a bat out of hell, so with all that torque that v8 would win..also you forgot to mention the drivetrain assiting the engine..a bit of common sense and this v8 would eat that stupid free reving cart of the line..except the cart can rev higher so it would wind up and win in speed..plus a V8 sounds, looks and goes better than a F1 engine..more displacement means more power. why do you think they elimanted the V10 from F1
enginerebuilder1 1 year ago
@enginerebuilder1
Typical primitive thinking. Do some research and than we can talk. It's more than engineering, and many people in the world still today dont understand why apple fall down from tree. Good bye.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@adfasdfasdfluy
Overall, still sounds great, tnx to crossplane crank
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
if 1000hp did more work than another 1000hp then IT WOULDNT HAVE 1000HP!!!! om fucking GOD. its like talking to 8yr olds.... power output determines how much WHEEL TQ you can have any any velocity or gear ratio. If 1000hp with more tq did more work then it would have more than 1000hp... this is why you pay for an education. Cuase people can't seem to learn this shit by themselves...
logic2reason 2 years ago
yea but dude.. when engines are designed, its all designed about the torque output of the engine.. what determines the peak torque is based on engine design.. what gives wheels more spinning force, i.e. able to burn out is torque, and that would be able to make u wheelie. go drive ur car, sit on the peak torque rpm and gun it, do the same with ur peak hp, u will see that peak torque rpm has more acceleration by far
swss12 2 years ago
wheel tq is only increased by adding power, or reducing the revolutions at which the wheel turns. A motor only produces the mathematical number of tq. The design of the motor can change at what rpm the tq is made. 5tq@100rpm is 2 times better than 5tq@50rpms. Because a tranny can reduce the 100rpm to 50, thus doubling the tq output. This is why the 5@100 has 2 times the power. power is tq@velocity. And the peak tq and hp are 2 different things. you will pull the hardest at peak tq, true, but
logic2reason 2 years ago
only becuase tq output is crank tq x ratio. Since oyu dont change gears to hit both peak tq and hp, the highest tq output would put the highest wheel tq to the ground. unfortunetly your completly forgetting about time. if you changed the gears so the first car was at peak tq, and made another set to peak hp, while both cars were at same velocity, then the peak hp will always win. law of thermo, transfer of energy. hp output determines how fast you can accelerate a mass. 200hp is better than 180
logic2reason 2 years ago
when a car will less tq but peak hp, what that means, is if you reduced the rpms to match the peak tq, the actual output shaft will have more power/tq. ex. 100tq@5000, 90@6000. peak tq=100@5000... 6000/5000=1.2 , 90x1.2=108tq. only reason why you pull harder at peak tq is you cant change gears.. to run a faster 1/2 mile, run at highest hp. for after you reach peak tq, you would shift to enter peak tq again, while another car after reaching pk tq would keep going till pk hp. thus pulling on you
logic2reason 2 years ago
anyways, if you want to pull a tree truck, rev at peak tq, sicne time is not a concern. if your racing, where time is a concern, run your car at peak hp. hp always wins. if you still dont udnerstand, pm me. im sick of typing letters to respond 500 at a time... Im study Mechanical Engineering. trust me, science doesnt invent units of energy or shit like that just to waste time. energy in = energy out. energy is hp. more hp, faster car.. tq can vary the same as rpm. end result = power
logic2reason 2 years ago
when you race, u shift so you land on the peak torque, btw i am in engineering physics. why would anyone want a v8 with 500 horsepower when u can get a inline 6 that has 500 horsepower? because the v8 has way more torque (also lower redline)
swss12 2 years ago
if your into engineering physics, then you need to learn about thermodynamics. beucase there is no way a 500hp v6 is slower than a 500hp v8. both have the same amount of energy. IF the v8 was faster then it would be required by ALL LAWS of physics to have more power. HEnse why its called Hp/weight ratio/... not tq/weight.
logic2reason 2 years ago
There are too many outside factors to consider when throwing up a general comparison of two unknown motors with equal specific horsepower outputs
drz400e332 2 years ago
im aware. But what we are referring to is power output. since energy cant be created nor destroyed. The amount of energy given out as output has to be accounted for. This is why more hp always means a faster car. i was trying to state that crank tq has NO indication of performance is any aspect..
logic2reason 2 years ago
I see where your going with this and you are correct with the aspect regarding horses, but horsepower is based on a peak at a respective rpm. Two motors can make, lets say 300 horses, one can peak at 8k rpm, the other can make over 250 ponies between 3k and 6k. If they both peak at the same, the latter will definately pull a quicker time. Overall power is more important than the specific output. Look at the OVERALL picture, not numbers like a magazine junkie
drz400e332 2 years ago
it still holds true. Take any given instant in time, whether or not they are at peak hp, just use the hp that is produced at that rpm. If a 250hp peak motor can make more power @5000rpms than a 400hp motor can, well then why argue 250vs 400 when thats not the power output? its called hp curve. the car whos power output was on average higher will win. im not a mag junkie, im a MEchanical engineer trying to help you, not the other way around..
logic2reason 2 years ago
i was using peak power as an argument as in both run at peak pwoer the whole time... you can use the same logic at any given pt in time. off the line. which car is outputting more hp will ALWAYS launch harder... having a 800hp 1.8l turbo doesnt do much unless your at 800hp. running at 2K rpm will net probably 200hp, thus at that pt in time, 200hp is inputted. thus another 200hp motor would pull just the same at that pt, if it was producing 200hp also. 200hp is 200hp
logic2reason 2 years ago
you guys are both retarded. its not just about numbers, its about the driver too. and above all its about the gearing. if your car isnt geared to fit your HP curve then its worthless. the laws of thermodynamics cannot be applied directly to drag racing, they can only evaluate the motor. and yes, i have taken thermo 1 and 2.
lineskier1925 2 years ago
well gearing affects power output. So my statement still holds true. Your the only one that is confused with your own ideas. Clearly you MAY have taken the class. That is no indication as to whether or not you understood it. And clearly you dont...
logic2reason 2 years ago
Remeber that hp and tq are directly proportional. In the simplest terms tq gets the load moving, hp keeps it moving. Since hp is a measure of tq over a given time. Tq is the way you find hp, since a dyno measures tq, then calculates hp. In short the car who carries more torque for a longer period of time travels the same distance faster, all other varibles being the same.
PPEDURAMAX04 2 years ago
id like to learn more im also just starting my training for mechanical engineering
NHSwrestler 2 years ago
if you make 10000 a year. would it matter if you get payed 52 times a year ( every week) for a value of 10000/52 or get payed once a month but 4 times as much per pay... doesnt matter does it? course not. Both make the same amount of "buying " power. To think that 400tq@2000rpms is better than 300@8000 is irrational. its the combination of the 2. bragging about crank tq is like bragging about revving. "so how much power ya got..","8,000rpms!!!" doesnt make sense. same with tq. tq x rpm=power
logic2reason 2 years ago
stfu smart ass!!!
Pearlreference4life 2 years ago
power is tq times velocity if i remember correct
jcobaltss2005 2 years ago
dude you do know that torque is the raw measurement of how much rotational force the engine produces right?
somedude618 2 years ago
Blown 632... Holy Fuck! ! ! ! !
BigDiesel85 3 years ago 3
in sane
BoNursukker 3 years ago
You have to look at both pulleys to get an idea of what kind of boost he is running. This pulley size looks to be 1 to 1. Maybe a little more.
bvillercr 3 years ago
dude, id get pissed one day and fuckin take it out and run it. thats why i dont have one!!!!
NoNolfey61 3 years ago
There is no replacement for displacement.
STONECOLDSKULL1 3 years ago
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1.5 litre twin turbo v6=1200 bhp
3.0 litre v10=1000bhp
9.3 litre v8=650 bhp
2.4litre v8=750bhp
mickyd90 3 years ago
DAYUUM
STONECOLDSKULL1 3 years ago
Im confused where are you getting these numbers from?
68fastback123 3 years ago
His ass.
LordJesseD 3 years ago
I believe the F1s of the turbo era with the turbo V6s were only single turbos, and revved to about 13,000 or so.
The V10 F1 engine is nearly right, and the 2.4 liter V8, yeah, a bit more.
But that 9.3 liter? What? A 572 V8? They can make upwards of 800 N/A, and with nitrous can break a 1000 easily.
F1s may make lots of power, but they don't make torque like a bigger engine does, like the one in this video, which'd make over a 1000HP anyway.
So it's unfair to compare F1s to Hot Rods.
LordJesseD 3 years ago
Ur stupid.
gibsonlespaul2 3 years ago
yeahhh. ur retarded and ill explain why. youre only listing size and bhp. lot more factors than that. a 1.5 liter twin turbo v6 will only get that much power at a ridiculously high rpm with VERY little fuel efficiency, like the 9.3. maxes 1200 bhp with big turbos (so much lag it wnt matter). a 3 liter v10 with 1000bhp? (highly tuned with supercharger or turbo). the 9.3 is a crate engine that u just buy, and besides its a standard pushrod, single cam, carbureted v8. and what about torque? :)
adfasdfasdfluy 2 years ago
1970 Chevrolet Monte Carlo + 632 V8 + 8-71 blower = 1 HELL OF A RIDE
WTR1050 3 years ago
i envy you so much
clubby1234 3 years ago
BTW who would call them self "shitfuckbitch12"
i guess the name explains the comment they left,
hot318 3 years ago
hang on, he's from Zimbabwe, that explains it LOL
hot318 3 years ago
the money spent on that engine would be enough to pay the remainder of my mortgage!!!
hot318 3 years ago
u have a mortgage?
sux to be you, ill prey for you
jsaulgodoy 3 years ago
shitfuckbitch12 go get your civic and line up then get put to massive fucking shame!! CFH
stapledshut0908 3 years ago 2
Blowers arent' my taste, but this certainly deserves MAJOR respect.
LordJesseD 3 years ago
SHITFUCKBITCH12 you are just a hater you dont even have any videos so dont rip on this badass beast if you dont have anything to keep up with it
fukinstevo13 3 years ago
sick 639.. issnt that like 10 liters..??
dutchfreaker 3 years ago
639/61 = 10.47 liters. You have much to learn my young padowan.
Jimmetalrules5546 3 years ago
theres 62 ci per litre
THESNAKE8 3 years ago
close enough
Jimmetalrules5546 3 years ago
that thing is wicked keep up the good work
ardwelding 3 years ago
im horny!
Kauboy84 3 years ago
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GAY AS FUCK
SHITFUCKBITCH12 3 years ago
Yes. I built that engine to advocate gayness. You got my number.
Shitfuckbitch....12.
Is 12 the number of times it took you to spell it correctly?
496Monte 3 years ago
don't let that idiot get ya going...he is probably 12. You have a sweet engine there...envy you. going to post some video of it driving?
Cop324 3 years ago
Shitfuckbitch12 is just jealous.
shit if i had a blown 632 omfg i would cry.
How much did the motor cost with the blower? all together total?
wut numbers u putting down also 496monte?
tommy15 3 years ago
your just scared to loose at the track what he has done if awsome and you only wish you could build an engine that sounds like that
ardwelding 3 years ago
fuck you! go fuck ur sheep!
Kauboy84 3 years ago
i think Kauboy, that you have confused me for a new zealander, but anway on behalf of the Kiwi's... you're dick head LOL.
hot318 3 years ago 3
hehehehehehehe
ausdublin 3 years ago
I love it!
MiniTruckin05 3 years ago 4
ya! its my dads motors!
Kauboy84 3 years ago