8mm movie (improved)

[bloominpen]

i have a sears 8mm projector and need to know how to rewind the film back onto the original wheel???

[ct92404]

@bloominpen

There should be a reverse switch. Hook the end of the film back onto the supply spool (without threading it through the gate), then just flip the reverse switch to run the motor and rewind the film.

[KEAUQ]

btw I think another cool effect that you've got going here that adds to the whole super 8 experience is you are filming off the wall and you haven't cropped too far, maybe you could leave some projector sound in next time, that'd be cool.

[ct92404]

This is actually not a Super-8 camera, it's an 8mm movie film called "Regular 8mm" or "Double Run 8." It's similar to Super-8, but the frame size and sprockets are a little different. It's a spool type film (instead of a cartride, like Super-8) and it's actually a much older type of film. It was first manufactured in the 1930's. I actually have a couple of videos that show Regular 8mm cameras and how to load them.

[KEAUQ]

what is a PITA I keep seeing that written ? I think it looks great !, I've only been a super8 owner for hmmm 4 days but I spent the weekend playing with the projector, and filming 3 rolls, I also got for my 50bucks some old pre-recorded 8mm and super8 films, mainly disney, be nice to project my own stuff eventually, ideally I'm hoping the processing lab will convert to .dv (on a data disc) or onto a minidv and also hand me back the film on a reel so i can project it aswell.

[ct92404]

PITA is an acroynym or internet slang for  "Pain In the Ass"

:)

[KEAUQ]

cool man love it ! I bought a super 8 well two in a week, a canon 518sv (18/24fps)a canon cine 400 projector and a chinon 100 XL (18fps) paid very little, but i love the look, neil young home movies from the 70's etc, anyway it's worth the expense of development etc i hope if my film i've shot turns out, do you just pay to have someone develop then when you get your reels back film of the screen rather than get the processing lab convert to minidv etc for you ?

[ct92404]

Very cool! Yeah, shooting with vintage 8mm movie cameras is a lot of fun. And I really like just watching my films on a projector. But I would suggest that if you want to transfer your movies to video (to upload to YouTube, etc) that it's probably a lot easier to just have the lab do it. They have the proper equipment and it will be much better quality. I made this video by just recording from the screen with a video camera. That was a PITA and it looks like crap, nothing like the film.

[Pixelbuddy]

Is there a digital effect in Finalcut that can give you this look?

[ct92404]

Possibly, but that defeats the whole purpose. If you want something to look like film, then use FILM. Why be a poser, you know??

[Pixelbuddy]

If I could, I would, but its crazy expensive and hard to get someone to develop it, and I'm low budget, you know?

[ct92404]

It is kind of expensive, yeah, but it's not hard to find places that will develop it. There are a bunch of labs that will develop 8mm and 16mm movie film. I just mail mine out. Just look on Google. I also order my film online. But I'm just doing this as a hobby anyway.

[watchitnz]

so cool

[lowcostvideos]

Nice bright video. You should learn to crop it though, for uploading to youtube. I'm working on a project right now to transfer 19 8mm movies from 1950-1958 onto DVD.

[joeldriskill]

let me know how it turns out!

[KruszO]

What camera were you using?

[ct92404]

I think this was from my Bell and Howell "Director's Series" camera.

[ct92404]

okay...yeah, it was the Bell and Howell camera, because this was from a year ago and that was the only 8mm camera with a zoom lens that I had at the time.

[KruszO]

cool, have you ever shot on a Bolex S1, I bought one recently and am going to test it out with some B&W

[ct92404]

no, but I do have a Bolex K2, it's probably my favorite 8mm camera now. It has an adjustable shutter, so I have more options for using different films. All my other cameras are too slow and can't handle the new 100D film...well unless I use a neutral density filter.

[joeldriskill]

i haven't used my 8mm cameras yet but i don't want to waste money on film that will not turn out. where should i get a nd filter for these old things? make one? what type of filter should i use on 100d film. my camera was only made to handle 40 asa film.

[ct92404]

What kind of cameras do you have? Do they have manual exposure (manual f-stop)? Some cameras, like the Bolex, have an adjustable shutter too. There were also some later battery-powered 8mm cameras that could use a much higher ISO film. I have a Minolta camera that can go up to I think 200 ISO film. But if you want to use a ND filter, you'll have to find one that will fit the lens, or you can also use a "Cokin" universal filter. It has a holder that attaches to the camera's tripod mount.

[joeldriskill]

right now I have a late 50's Bell and Howell with an automatic f-stop and i have one that has a manual control. I have a light meter on its way and i plan on making some nd filters with the intent to film my own tests with the readings and settings visible on the film via white board/chalkboard. changing one variable at a time and film a little and after it is developed i can see what works and what doesn't. I hope that this will help others when they are starting.

[ct92404]

If your camera has a really slow shutter speed, then you'll probably need a ND filter that will reduce the exposure by 1 or 2 stops. But I just used a roll of 100D film on a really old Kodak camera, with no ND filter. lol...I have no idea how it's going to turn out, so it's kind of an experiment. I'll let you know how it looks when I get it developed.

[breto112]

hey, where can you order that 8mm film!???

thanks!

[ct92404]

You can get it from Dwayne's Photo in Parsons, Kansas. Just go to their website at k14movies(dot)com. Go to Order Forms, then Movie Film, and then Movie Film for sale. That will open up the order form where you can order all kinds of 8mm, Super-8, and 16mm film. The film is kind of expensive, but it's a lot of fun shooting with these old cameras! If you have a spool camera, be sure you get the "Regular 8" 25 ft roll. Cine Chrome k14 or Ektachrome 100D are good films.

[Cosmicalex13]

You can make a killer movie using that camera

[tylerlavite]

ahh i love the old click of an old film camera!

[ct92404]

Yeah me too! But it's so weird seeing an 8mm movie on this old projector...and you see all these modern cars and everything in the movie. A lot of people are surprised that you can still get 8mm film.

[awsomehighvoltage]

is that your house?

[ct92404]

Yeah, I just filmed it at my house. I was just testing the camera...I didn't even know if it was going to work! I had never used an antique 8mm movie camera before! So I was mostly just messing around with it, testing the exposure and the zoom.

[chandraalmond]

Is that you in the last frame?

[jeffsadowski]

There should be a slide scanner that you can get and you could record the audio from line in on your sound card and sync them up,