Some of these comments are hilarious! :) I helped build this car, it def had a 5.4L SOHC in this video. Swap thread is at stangnetDOTcom/mustang-forums/718631-my-weekend-project-2000-gt-5-4l-swap-2DOThtml We changed cams and exhaust later. The 5.4 2V was fun but peak horsepower was 261rwhp at 4600 rpm, hence the swap back to 4.6. This car now makes 446rwhp with a 1.7L KB and pulls to 6500 rpm. It will be upgraded in the future with a larger blower. :)
@HighOutputGT how come it only made 261 rwhp? what parts did yall use? im sure this is the same motor in a f150, i have a 03 f150 and im a little curious
@pfcrobinson Restrictive stock intake mainly, followed closely by the stock heads. The torque curve was crazy, but it just ran out of steam before 5k. An aftermarket intake and ported heads would have put it well over 300 rwhp, but there were no 5.4L 2V intakes available at the time.... This engine was all stock except for stage 1 cams, and I believe it came out of a 03 F-150. Only had 11k miles when we installed it.
@jicee23 Not true my friend. I put on in mine...I had to remove the hood lining and make some cuts on the bottom part of the hood with a dremel. On the outside you would never know a 5.4 was under there.
Horsepower...yes, torque...no. The 5.4 is a truck engine so the factory ones are geared for torque, much like a 4.6 mustang engine is built for horsepower. A 5.4 is not a good naturally aspirated engine with the really long stroke and the small piston bore - it's just physics. What a long-stroke engine like the 5.4/6.8 Fords give you though is insane power output with forced induction - the 4.6 will NEVER compare because of over a 1/2" more power delivery on the combustion cycle.
@HorsepowerAddiction The 2v in general in general sucks for N/A.. Why do people look at torque as a bad thing, especially since our cars suck on the higher end anyway.
5.4 and 4.6's are the same damn motor except the 5.4 has a longer stroke...they use the same cams, exhaust, and pretty much everything except some internals due to the longer stroke...they will sound identical....especially since the have the same firing order and general timing
@Texasmarine96863 which is to be assumed having a longer stroke. The only motors that have a different bore in the family are the 5.0 cammers, and the new 5.0's in the 2011-12 GT's
@IDontHateOnCars before anything else is done..ie same heads and cams..there is a small horse power difference...like 20-35 hp and this a lot of the time is computer tuning (unless you are running a forced induction setup on both). Torque is the thing that is mostly gained, you may have up to a 70 ft/lbs. with an identical setup. So yes, no replacement for displacement, assuming all else is equal.
@Viper2114 Yeah I was expecting more torque. I guess that comes from the longer stroke ? Well where do people mostly get the 5.4 2v ? Is the 5.4 Triton in trucks nearly identical? Another question cause You now about mustangs , are the 99-04 4.6 2v motors cast iron?
@IDontHateOnCars Usually yeah, the 5.4's will usually come from a truck/van/expedition (unless you find a Navigator (5.4 4valve motor)). The cast on all of these blocks are essentially the same (only real difference being where they were cast(romeo or windsor)). The 2v family motors are pretty much entirely Iron blocks, the only aluminum blocks are in the 4 valve configuration cars (96-2001 Cobra, mach 1's and ford gt ), and the new 5.0's. Even the 2000 Cobra R and 03-04's have iron blocks.
@IDontHateOnCars John Coletti's concern was the 5.4 Aluminum block at the time wouldn't meet the durability requirements for hard driving. (obviously proven wrong with the Ford GT's 5.4 and 5.0 Cammer motors)
@Viper2114 Nope, the 5.4 has a deeper tone to the exhaust. The 5.4 has a different block, front timing cover and intake manifold. Yes, they use the same cams, exhaust manifolds and the accessories that bolt to the engine itself.
@ShopforCFcom well yeah...when you have a longer stroke usually the block is different lol. As would it affect those specific parts fore mentioned. But I never actually noticed an exhaust difference. Exception being what Header/Manifold, mid-pipe (X-pipe, H-pipe), catted or non, and catback is being used.
@shomepower what reason? im actually looking to buy a car similar to this on craigslist lol. Comp 270 cams, crower springs, trickflow intake manifold with spacers, 75mm t/b, ford racing headers, msd coils, custom exhaust for wider 5.4. does it sound like a decent build? im clueless about 5.4 motors.
how much money did that run you man? just for the engine swap, im not worried about the cams or exhaust. i have an 03 gt and the 4.6 L just isn't enough. sick car
How the hell did you fit a 5.4L in that tiny ass engine compartment? Are the heads resting against the strut towers or something? Just saying cuz i remember the stock 4.6 being tight.
some of u guys sound like the dipshit that tried to sell me a mustang with a 429ci engine... well open the hood and there lies a 2v 4.6... he was an idiot and i kicked him in the balls. btw ricers are for faggots... line em up to get stomped.
you should get a used set of cobra 4v heads $600 and a full sullivan intake lower+upper=$1000. and make some good power. 5.4 sohc is a truck motor and ive yet to see one with similar mods make as much power as a 32 valve 4.6. 5.4 in a mustang is sick thought i plan on a 351ci 32 valve in my 03 mach within the year
@zacharyt1122 since 96 ford has use the "modular" motor meaning the parts are modular and can be used on many platforms. i wouldnt be using a 281 i'd start with a 5.4 330cid bore it to 3.74" use a 4.35" stoker kit and ill have a 351CI dohc high compression N/A monster. i hope to get good gas milage well. and 306 is nowhere near the largest you go, 3.7" bore x 3.75" stroke makes 323CI and i am currently building a 3.7"bore x 3.8" stroke 327CI eaton blown motor
@infogatherer100 Sounds like a good build you got there, as far as I'm aware of tho you gotta do some major modifying to the motor to have it accept 4v heads. Post some videos once you get it built!
@infogatherer100 the name 'Modular' doesn't have anything to do with the exchangability of the engine's components. it is named Modular because it was an Assembly line concept that Ford developed for the factories that produced the motor. they wanted a Factory that could be retooled, and reequipped to manufacture different engines, in a very short notice, and in a Modular fashion.
infact, the "Modular" engine really isnt modular at all. They have several different designs for several components in the block, and the heads, and compatability over the years, is very poor. there are a few exceptions though, the 4.6 3v engines are fairly consistant. but most of the 2v engines were horribly inconsistent over the years.
I just bolted 4.6 heads to a 5.4 block and I am still having clearance issues w/ the headers. It will ALMOST go but not quite make it. Any ideas? I THINK once i get it in there will be plenty of room so i'm not worried about heat but I cant get it in far enough to bolt to the motor mounts.
the heads are the same between the 5.4 truck and the 4.6 stang just some stang have windsor heads like the truck 99-01.5, 13valve cover bolts and the romeo heads96-98 and 01.5-04 have 9 bolt valve cover. an aftermarket k -member will get u more header room.
The Mustang's an American version of the civic? What a dumbass. The Stang came into production in the 50's and the civic in the 70's. And that's only the start of the massive list of differences between a musclecar and a fuel economy sedan. People on here are shockingly ignorant sometimes.
@marcosbullock I say the same thing, but I dont mean it literally. How I mean it is people buy Mustangs to mod them and go fast, and for some reason Hondas are bought to do the same, coming from a Mustang guy if my 87 5.0 got called a Civic Id straight up kill the asshole who said it
nice im planning on doing a built 5.4 with the on 3 performance turbo kit but i was wondering how difficult was the shorties or manifolds to fit thats the only thing i have to worry about for the turbo kit to bolt up and the hps intake put everthing to stock height measurments with hood clerance thanks for any help
biggest stroker u can do for a 4.6(281ci) is out to 5.0 or 5.1L(302ci)-i4get. 5.4 is just a bigger block compared to a 4.6-they have parts interchangability from both engine series.Some ppl got it wrong-the civic is the jap version of the mustang-not the other way around-but then again u cant compare a 4cyl fwd to a v8 rwd car-sorry. plus the 5.0 fox body's r considered the 55-57 chevy shoebox of the late 80's-early 90's
yes the 5.4 does to fit in this model mustang! my friend has it done! and havent you heard of the cobra r? the cobra r has a 5.4 in it. and you dont need a new hood btw
Sorry, but after 1960's the interior was crap. Turned to cheap wood grain crap in the 70's and then in the 80's(foxbody) turned to crappy plastic. 94-2004 practically all look the same interior wise. only thing i agree with you on is that they are lighter, but i don't like them. To much of a box to me.
before emissions control and before people wanted a cheap fuel efficient cars over american calssic muscle. of course the 60s mustangs were nicer they had all steel construction and built to please. and of course 80s and newer mustangs are plastic they have to be to keep the car under 900 million tones the mustangs from the 60s were almost as small and weighed nearly twice.
I have to admit. The dials in the 05-09 are fucking amazing. They are really the main reason i like the car. The 05-09 look good with a kit where as the 99-04s look good to me stock.
i dont like the way the lights look around it too twisty looking.
i liked the 93-99 lights they werent bad
but the interior just really was a deal breaker for that generation mustang i just hate that ugly moled plastic
the 80s foxbody had kinda a ugly interior but not as bad it made up for it by being a good machine.
the late 70s and early 80s were the worst time to buy a new car in the US even supercars like ferraris and the deloren were horrible underpowered because of emissions regulations.
The cobra R had no A/C, radio, or other civilian necessities. I don't know if it can fit or not, but the cobra R was constructed completely different from the GT or SVT Cobra. If someone does, i can assure you they have extreme patience
@Texarmageddon Other things to note. The Cobra R is a riced out piece of N/A garbage, thank God they only made a couple of those heaps of trash. The 03-04 Cobra 4.6L were supercharged 4V's out of the factory and fully forged and will be eternally one of the best factory motors ever made as well as retain their value for time to come. Yes I called the Cobra R riced out, if you saw that body kit on a Honda you'd say the same thing, Big Wing, Big Lip...Big Piece of Trash.
your a idiot man. The 2000 Cobra R is anything bur riced out. The wing was the best in testing of over 50 different wings. I love the cobra R and it too came with a forged engine that basically got topped with a super charger and got dropped into the ford GT 5 years later...
@DaBluedude100 Sorry bro, say what you will. The body kit says rice, Honda have the same body kit...big lip, big wing...riced out...just glad they only made 300 of these POSes
@helloman1976 So all the Grand Am series cars are rice too huh? It's a little different when that splitter and wing are both functional and needed. The cobra r is a factory built race car. Way to make yourself look like an ass.
@helloman1976 Care to explain that one? Without pointing out functional aerodynamic parts? Yes a big wing is rice on fwd car that never sees road course time, and yes a big lip is rice when it's never needed. How is it rice when it's on a car designed to dominate a road course?
@MrIdidyourmother Sure, big lip, big wing on any car and you call it RICE. Is this car different because it was made like that from the factory or because it's "functional"? Isnt an S2000 with a big lip and big wing "functional"? Call it what it is, it's RICE. I can appreciate the car and what it was made for but the body kit is RICE. FINAL ANSWER.
@helloman1976 Well I just don't know what to do now that so many track dedicated cars are rice for the sake of good lap times. Oh well what do they know anyway
@MrIdidyourmother Step 1, stop calling a street car that COULD be used on the track a track car. Step 2, If you are worried about good lap times then build a car for the track and keep it there dont try to put it on the street with all the sponsorship stickers, big lip, big spoiler with 17" rims or guess what...you'll be called RICER!!! Good luck.
@helloman1976 You idiot don't you know the Cobra R's body kit and spoiler was tested in an air-tunnel for better downforce, unlike a Civic which has a spoiler and body kit from Autozone. Also the Cobra R a naturally aspirated 5.4L V8 producing over 385 horsepower and 385 lbs. of torque, the conversation ends there. Way to post stupid statements without knowing your facts.
@h23oscar you need to watch what you say with that remark... mustangs and civics compare in no wau what so ever... mustang is a big, loud rumbling beast and a civic is a small and nimble machine... maybe a focus to a civic but not the mustang...
kreigsmann are you a stupid asshole?! do you know how many people put 5.4s in a mustang without any problems?! its been done hundreds of times your just to stupid and ignorant to realize it!
ok well the 5.4 is just as good as the 5.0 if not better! you can beaf up a 5.4 easily. dont get me wrong the 5.0 is a awesome motor but the 5.4 can take me in the long run
there so many upgrades that can be done to give the engine several hundred hp naturally aspirated theres even a high flow intake manifold witch is very rare for fuel injected cars not even engines that are often used in raceing have that option.
the 5.4 is for a truck it is a piece of shit the only thing it can do is have an engine light on for longer.
you could to do a lot with a 5.4! you can use mustang heads on a 5.4 because the top end is completely the same. the only thing different is the bottom end. and parts are very available for the bottom end considering the gt500 has the same bottom end!
As far as I know you cannot but a 5.4L stroker kit for the 4.6L, the biggest I have seen is a 5.3L. It is not the same engine, it was swapped from most likely an F-150
I have a amazon green mustang any ideas on pimping it out? Don't want a loud exhaust!!
LaurieCrowe 3 months ago
That just sounds sweet!!! =D
mustangfuego 5 months ago
if you lower this thing about 2 inches, it would look amazing
pfcrobinson 8 months ago
Some of these comments are hilarious! :) I helped build this car, it def had a 5.4L SOHC in this video. Swap thread is at stangnetDOTcom/mustang-forums/718631-my-weekend-project-2000-gt-5-4l-swap-2DOThtml We changed cams and exhaust later. The 5.4 2V was fun but peak horsepower was 261rwhp at 4600 rpm, hence the swap back to 4.6. This car now makes 446rwhp with a 1.7L KB and pulls to 6500 rpm. It will be upgraded in the future with a larger blower. :)
HighOutputGT 8 months ago
@HighOutputGT how come it only made 261 rwhp? what parts did yall use? im sure this is the same motor in a f150, i have a 03 f150 and im a little curious
pfcrobinson 8 months ago
@pfcrobinson Restrictive stock intake mainly, followed closely by the stock heads. The torque curve was crazy, but it just ran out of steam before 5k. An aftermarket intake and ported heads would have put it well over 300 rwhp, but there were no 5.4L 2V intakes available at the time.... This engine was all stock except for stage 1 cams, and I believe it came out of a 03 F-150. Only had 11k miles when we installed it.
HighOutputGT 8 months ago
What's with the v6 hood
palfrey5 10 months ago
@palfrey5 1999 and 2000 mustangs both gt's and 6ers came with that hood. you can always buy the hood schoop for around 100 bucks
bladingpro 10 months ago
Man, your Mustang sounds sick! I have to get my Saleen cammed now...
mluckystar25 10 months ago
i dont believe this is a 5.4 because when you put a 5.4 in a mustang you need a big hood to fit the t body....either bigger hood or cut out...
jicee23 11 months ago
@jicee23 Not true my friend. I put on in mine...I had to remove the hood lining and make some cuts on the bottom part of the hood with a dremel. On the outside you would never know a 5.4 was under there.
darkraven220 11 months ago
Well sweet car, but I think it needs to be lowered and inch or so... Good choice with dynomax, they're the best.
motoracer951 1 year ago
Nice lookin pony you got...how wide are the rims in the rear?
DaPresstenPope 1 year ago
pretty nice for a GT.
Khadgare 1 year ago
Tell me if you like your sumitomos! Thinking about buying some!
1brannon10 1 year ago
whats the advantage of dropping 5.4l in when it puts out similar numbers as the 4.6? it just doesnt seem worth it to me for some reason
Sk8FalIen 1 year ago
@Sk8FalIen
Horsepower...yes, torque...no. The 5.4 is a truck engine so the factory ones are geared for torque, much like a 4.6 mustang engine is built for horsepower. A 5.4 is not a good naturally aspirated engine with the really long stroke and the small piston bore - it's just physics. What a long-stroke engine like the 5.4/6.8 Fords give you though is insane power output with forced induction - the 4.6 will NEVER compare because of over a 1/2" more power delivery on the combustion cycle.
HorsepowerAddiction 1 year ago
@HorsepowerAddiction exactly ive been saying this for years and no one listens its a complete waste to do a 5.4 swap. unless you go FI
zo0yoRk69 1 year ago
@HorsepowerAddiction The 2v in general in general sucks for N/A.. Why do people look at torque as a bad thing, especially since our cars suck on the higher end anyway.
Texarmageddon 8 months ago
5.4 and 4.6's are the same damn motor except the 5.4 has a longer stroke...they use the same cams, exhaust, and pretty much everything except some internals due to the longer stroke...they will sound identical....especially since the have the same firing order and general timing
Viper2114 1 year ago 13
@Viper2114 pretty sure a 4.6 is a sohc and a 5.4 is a dohc...
askloglog 10 months ago
@askloglog both have sohc and dohc configurations..... 2v,3v, and 4v.
igjoe2007 8 months ago
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XxKobeBryantxX24 9 months ago
@Viper2114 Just a heads up, the block is also different for a 5.4, taller deck to accommodate the longer stroke.
Texasmarine96863 7 months ago
@Texasmarine96863 which is to be assumed having a longer stroke. The only motors that have a different bore in the family are the 5.0 cammers, and the new 5.0's in the 2011-12 GT's
Viper2114 7 months ago
@Viper2114 Whoa I never knew that! thanks for sharing
FreakyKing2 6 months ago
@Viper2114 But is there a hp and tq difference?
IDontHateOnCars 2 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars before anything else is done..ie same heads and cams..there is a small horse power difference...like 20-35 hp and this a lot of the time is computer tuning (unless you are running a forced induction setup on both). Torque is the thing that is mostly gained, you may have up to a 70 ft/lbs. with an identical setup. So yes, no replacement for displacement, assuming all else is equal.
Viper2114 2 months ago
@Viper2114 Yeah I was expecting more torque. I guess that comes from the longer stroke ? Well where do people mostly get the 5.4 2v ? Is the 5.4 Triton in trucks nearly identical? Another question cause You now about mustangs , are the 99-04 4.6 2v motors cast iron?
IDontHateOnCars 2 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars Usually yeah, the 5.4's will usually come from a truck/van/expedition (unless you find a Navigator (5.4 4valve motor)). The cast on all of these blocks are essentially the same (only real difference being where they were cast(romeo or windsor)). The 2v family motors are pretty much entirely Iron blocks, the only aluminum blocks are in the 4 valve configuration cars (96-2001 Cobra, mach 1's and ford gt ), and the new 5.0's. Even the 2000 Cobra R and 03-04's have iron blocks.
Viper2114 2 months ago
@Viper2114 2000 cobra r was aluminum block.
IDontHateOnCars 2 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars nope Iron
Viper2114 2 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars John Coletti's concern was the 5.4 Aluminum block at the time wouldn't meet the durability requirements for hard driving. (obviously proven wrong with the Ford GT's 5.4 and 5.0 Cammer motors)
Viper2114 2 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars Go to mustangworld . com and look up the Cobra R's article
Viper2114 2 months ago
@Viper2114 Nope, the 5.4 has a deeper tone to the exhaust. The 5.4 has a different block, front timing cover and intake manifold. Yes, they use the same cams, exhaust manifolds and the accessories that bolt to the engine itself.
ShopforCFcom 1 month ago
@ShopforCFcom well yeah...when you have a longer stroke usually the block is different lol. As would it affect those specific parts fore mentioned. But I never actually noticed an exhaust difference. Exception being what Header/Manifold, mid-pipe (X-pipe, H-pipe), catted or non, and catback is being used.
Viper2114 1 month ago
@Viper2114 but its cheaper to swap to a 5.4 than it is to a 4.6 in my point of view considering i got a v6
mrrosales94 1 day ago
you sure its not a 4.5 dumbass
thind720 1 year ago
@thind720
mustangs dont have a 4.5 dumbass.
bluecapone 1 year ago 17
@bluecapone well technical 281's are actually 4.591's.....
paladain55 1 year ago
lmao thats definetely the 4.6L..........
TheYoungbl0od 1 year ago
This isnt a 5.4 lol fucken guy is on crack
albertorosales6 1 year ago
why not a 4v?
jarhead10008 1 year ago
why did you go back to the 4.6 ?
geezyfladies 1 year ago
I checked the web site and this dude has nothing about the 5.4. Just another tool trying to get attention.
biggredd911 1 year ago
have fun with those spark plugs......
frankrizzooo 1 year ago
boring ass vid
TurkeySammiches 1 year ago
someones taken good care of that car, i didnt see a dent on it. it looks like its brand new.
intiractive 1 year ago
check out TorquedFords(dot) com for the latest info on the car. Went back to a 4.6 kenne bell setup...
shomepower 1 year ago
@shomepower what reason? im actually looking to buy a car similar to this on craigslist lol. Comp 270 cams, crower springs, trickflow intake manifold with spacers, 75mm t/b, ford racing headers, msd coils, custom exhaust for wider 5.4. does it sound like a decent build? im clueless about 5.4 motors.
floridabowhunter 4 months ago
awesome car man
sgg411 1 year ago
how much money did that run you man? just for the engine swap, im not worried about the cams or exhaust. i have an 03 gt and the 4.6 L just isn't enough. sick car
Ericsson787 1 year ago
How the hell did you fit a 5.4L in that tiny ass engine compartment? Are the heads resting against the strut towers or something? Just saying cuz i remember the stock 4.6 being tight.
renardthatch 1 year ago
how about an acceleration video??
RacerX6988 1 year ago
Id like to see it race!
Ttop50ryda 1 year ago
some of u guys sound like the dipshit that tried to sell me a mustang with a 429ci engine... well open the hood and there lies a 2v 4.6... he was an idiot and i kicked him in the balls. btw ricers are for faggots... line em up to get stomped.
sweetfeet666 1 year ago
the VIN wont say 5.4 cuz that car didnt come with one smart one
EviLotus01 1 year ago
@EviLotus01 The vin# on the motor will though.
rockinmycountry09 1 year ago
killer
danimal511 1 year ago
That car sounds GREAT! What kind of numbers did it make?
coryboy345 1 year ago
you can go bigger then a 306,,,many diff ways,,,assuming 5.4 is his method
SIKTTCOBRA 1 year ago
actually you can go more then 306 on a 281,,try a big bore block from mmr,,assuming he is gonna do a 5.4 stroker,,,,
SIKTTCOBRA 1 year ago
you should get a used set of cobra 4v heads $600 and a full sullivan intake lower+upper=$1000. and make some good power. 5.4 sohc is a truck motor and ive yet to see one with similar mods make as much power as a 32 valve 4.6. 5.4 in a mustang is sick thought i plan on a 351ci 32 valve in my 03 mach within the year
infogatherer100 1 year ago
@infogatherer100 Ummm, how would you bolt on 4v heads on a 2v??
And how do you plan on getting 351ci out of a 281 motor??? Its gotta be a whole new motor since the biggest a 281 can go is about 306ci.
zacharyt1122 1 year ago
@zacharyt1122 since 96 ford has use the "modular" motor meaning the parts are modular and can be used on many platforms. i wouldnt be using a 281 i'd start with a 5.4 330cid bore it to 3.74" use a 4.35" stoker kit and ill have a 351CI dohc high compression N/A monster. i hope to get good gas milage well. and 306 is nowhere near the largest you go, 3.7" bore x 3.75" stroke makes 323CI and i am currently building a 3.7"bore x 3.8" stroke 327CI eaton blown motor
infogatherer100 1 year ago
@infogatherer100 Sounds like a good build you got there, as far as I'm aware of tho you gotta do some major modifying to the motor to have it accept 4v heads. Post some videos once you get it built!
zacharyt1122 1 year ago
@infogatherer100 the name 'Modular' doesn't have anything to do with the exchangability of the engine's components. it is named Modular because it was an Assembly line concept that Ford developed for the factories that produced the motor. they wanted a Factory that could be retooled, and reequipped to manufacture different engines, in a very short notice, and in a Modular fashion.
impreziv 1 year ago
infact, the "Modular" engine really isnt modular at all. They have several different designs for several components in the block, and the heads, and compatability over the years, is very poor. there are a few exceptions though, the 4.6 3v engines are fairly consistant. but most of the 2v engines were horribly inconsistent over the years.
impreziv 1 year ago
all classic muscle cars are better period
nat1243 1 year ago
its a 4 valves ! but the 5,4 of the Navigator was bolt-on in the engine bay ! i want something fit well on my cobra!
yanixblake 2 years ago
the 00-01 navigator is a 4v and the newer f150s have a option between 4v and 2v
hugney51 2 years ago
What the new f-150 have 3 valve heads
Ironbronco90 2 years ago
f150 trucks dont come with a 4v head.
x1boomer 2 years ago
what year 5,4 fit whit does heads . exemple i have a 99 cobra . ( scuse me for the poor sentence , english was not my talking language )
yanixblake 2 years ago
any 5.4 sohc will fit that body style mustang, dohc 5.4 will need some work. both will have header clearance issues but the engine will bolt it.
x1boomer 2 years ago
yeah x1boomer is right and will fit. a 2v is almost a direct swap. you can use a 3v or 4v but its tricky cuz a 99-04 mustang gt is a 2v
hugney51 2 years ago
Yep, dropping a SOHC 5.4 in is as easy as dropping in another 4.6.
modded01stang 2 years ago
I just bolted 4.6 heads to a 5.4 block and I am still having clearance issues w/ the headers. It will ALMOST go but not quite make it. Any ideas? I THINK once i get it in there will be plenty of room so i'm not worried about heat but I cant get it in far enough to bolt to the motor mounts.
PS It's a 2000 model if it makes a difference.
bangnstangs 2 years ago
the heads are the same between the 5.4 truck and the 4.6 stang just some stang have windsor heads like the truck 99-01.5, 13valve cover bolts and the romeo heads96-98 and 01.5-04 have 9 bolt valve cover. an aftermarket k -member will get u more header room.
x1boomer 2 years ago
Yea I's a roemo setup now. 5.4 block w/ patriot stage lll.
bangnstangs 2 years ago
Any DOHC 5.4 will fit. But your just better off having your cobra heads ported
Ironbronco90 2 years ago
is this a 4 valve?
Musclecarfever13 2 years ago
Hoo-lee shit! Welcome to my faves, dude!
CBRuRedE 2 years ago
sounds good. but please lower your 4x4 =)
The1WhiteDevil 2 years ago
Well,all I can say is it sounds good,but seeing is beleiveing when it comes to that 5.4,sorry.
KJBPSkipper 2 years ago
Rev it bastard!
yorchreloaded 2 years ago
definitely a 5.4 when he revs it
Welshinski 2 years ago
5.4? show the engine.... im not buyin it from this video
hemiram08 2 years ago 5
@hemiram08 well its not going to sound all loud its just a 5.4L 330ci
saleenxxx 1 year ago
I heard Ol' Red lol
gpfordstang302 2 years ago
great car! sounds perfect....what did you do about the headers...grind the factory manifolds or get new headers? if headers which brand?
BLK281302 2 years ago
was it hard to swap engines. i remember putting on new headers on my 00 mustang and that was the closest i was to suicide
sweendoggg 2 years ago
The Mustang's an American version of the civic? What a dumbass. The Stang came into production in the 50's and the civic in the 70's. And that's only the start of the massive list of differences between a musclecar and a fuel economy sedan. People on here are shockingly ignorant sometimes.
marcosbullock 2 years ago 2
@marcosbullock
Dude, the Mustang started production in 1964... The first production Mustangs are considered 1964 1/2 models.
But anyways, the closest thing to the American Honda Civic is either the Ford Escort or Chevrolet Cavalier... NEVER compare a Mustang to a Civic...
72BlackonBlack 2 years ago 28
HAha! You're right...I was typing too fast and hit the wrong number. Thanks for the correction though I'd love to get my hands on a '54 stang! ;-)
marcosbullock 2 years ago
@72BlackonBlack
why not
you can do anything to them
and they are on every corner you see
Show757 1 year ago
@72BlackonBlack but i can compare a mustang to my s2000
womblesmurf 1 year ago
um 60s but close enough lol :)
DanGibsonfan1 2 years ago
i wanna break whoever's face it is that said that
albertorosales6 2 years ago
@marcosbullock I say the same thing, but I dont mean it literally. How I mean it is people buy Mustangs to mod them and go fast, and for some reason Hondas are bought to do the same, coming from a Mustang guy if my 87 5.0 got called a Civic Id straight up kill the asshole who said it
stratspider230 1 year ago
@marcosbullock you're a little off, 1st production year: 1964(1/2)
paladain55 1 year ago
@paladain55 Thanks man but it's been corrected already as it was a typo. Please refer to correction comment made about 6 months ago.
marcosbullock 1 year ago
@marcosbullock in actuality the mustang came in the 60's
mustang500e 1 year ago
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@mustang500e Thanks man but it's been corrected already as it was a typo. Please refer to correction comment made about 6 months ago.
marcosbullock 1 year ago
nice im planning on doing a built 5.4 with the on 3 performance turbo kit but i was wondering how difficult was the shorties or manifolds to fit thats the only thing i have to worry about for the turbo kit to bolt up and the hps intake put everthing to stock height measurments with hood clerance thanks for any help
99cobrawannabe 2 years ago
@99cobrawannabe you should consider importing an australian boss 5.4 quad cam from our falcons n put it in a stang, thatd be unique
vtshitbox 2 years ago
e303?
robitussinx 2 years ago
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shitstang!!!!!!!!!
CodyCollinsSkater1 2 years ago
nice to see a kick ass car in ohio!
dre5491 2 years ago
I would like to race you in my 68 Nova. It'll be a close one! Nice mild cam in the stang.
steganizaz 2 years ago
biggest stroker u can do for a 4.6(281ci) is out to 5.0 or 5.1L(302ci)-i4get. 5.4 is just a bigger block compared to a 4.6-they have parts interchangability from both engine series.Some ppl got it wrong-the civic is the jap version of the mustang-not the other way around-but then again u cant compare a 4cyl fwd to a v8 rwd car-sorry. plus the 5.0 fox body's r considered the 55-57 chevy shoebox of the late 80's-early 90's
guys2nv 2 years ago
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its not a 5.4 and it doesnt sound cammed
h23oscar 2 years ago
would you like the vin number to confirm, and how about the cam swap pics you ass.
shomepower 2 years ago
lmfao, sure....
h23oscar 2 years ago
@shomepower i would like to see the pics that it is a 5.4.
focalstangman 1 year ago
@shomepower Anyone should be able to tell it's cammed, but a VIN for that year isn't going to prove it's a 5.4. Where did you get the 5.4 from?
mustangfreak 1 year ago
it probably still has the cat
kreigsmann 2 years ago
oh, i didnt think of that lol thanks for a normal response unlike the previous one i had
h23oscar 2 years ago
if it had a 5.4 it would tear the shit out of the chassis just cranking it.
mustangs are nothing more than molded tin foil
always have been always will be.
they are the american honda civic!!
but yea the cat deludes alot of sound
kreigsmann 2 years ago
true, mustangs are the american civic and from what i know the 5.4 doesnt fit in the mustang without a higher hood (at least in this model)
h23oscar 2 years ago
your right it wouldent
i remember the 5.4 in a expedition
it took up all compartment space
actually
if he moved the air filter system it might fit with some grinding.
but still i doubt it
kreigsmann 2 years ago
yes the 5.4 does to fit in this model mustang! my friend has it done! and havent you heard of the cobra r? the cobra r has a 5.4 in it. and you dont need a new hood btw
hugney51 2 years ago
i read that you do need a higher hood for the 5.4 in this car...look it up, thats why the cobra r has a higher hood than this one
h23oscar 2 years ago
i think the mustangs after 93 were just the ugliest pices of shit ever made
the interiors were garbage
the ext was all just ugly rounded sheetmetal
looks like a 2 door honda civic on roids
cant beat a foxbody
kreigsmann 2 years ago
i thought foxbody were ugly
Texarmageddon 2 years ago
hellll no
they were wayyy better
look at the interior of a mustang 39-2004
looked like crap looked like melted plastic
the outer didnt look too bad in the 93-98 ones but after that they fucked them selves
foxbodies are lighter smaller interior and more geometric the perfect car
kreigsmann 2 years ago
Sorry, but after 1960's the interior was crap. Turned to cheap wood grain crap in the 70's and then in the 80's(foxbody) turned to crappy plastic. 94-2004 practically all look the same interior wise. only thing i agree with you on is that they are lighter, but i don't like them. To much of a box to me.
Texarmageddon 2 years ago
well now your talkin bout the 60s
before emissions control and before people wanted a cheap fuel efficient cars over american calssic muscle. of course the 60s mustangs were nicer they had all steel construction and built to please. and of course 80s and newer mustangs are plastic they have to be to keep the car under 900 million tones the mustangs from the 60s were almost as small and weighed nearly twice.
the new mustangs 04+ are works of art
i used to hate them but then i drove a 08 GT.
kreigsmann 2 years ago
I think you are talking about 05+. 04 are the same as 94. I don't like the appearance of the 05-09. I do like the 10.
Texarmageddon 2 years ago
oh yea i forgot
i do like the 2010 but i liked the 05-09 more because the hood is higher in the front.
and i like the dash dials.
kreigsmann 2 years ago
I have to admit. The dials in the 05-09 are fucking amazing. They are really the main reason i like the car. The 05-09 look good with a kit where as the 99-04s look good to me stock.
Texarmageddon 2 years ago
i dont like the way the lights look around it too twisty looking.
i liked the 93-99 lights they werent bad
but the interior just really was a deal breaker for that generation mustang i just hate that ugly moled plastic
the 80s foxbody had kinda a ugly interior but not as bad it made up for it by being a good machine.
the late 70s and early 80s were the worst time to buy a new car in the US even supercars like ferraris and the deloren were horrible underpowered because of emissions regulations.
kreigsmann 2 years ago
things to note.
Cobra-4.6l DOHC turbo
Cobra R- 5.4l " "
The cobra R had no A/C, radio, or other civilian necessities. I don't know if it can fit or not, but the cobra R was constructed completely different from the GT or SVT Cobra. If someone does, i can assure you they have extreme patience
Texarmageddon 2 years ago
4.6L DOHC Cobra in 03-04 were Supercharged not turbocharged..and 99-01 were N/A
Localdrummerweb 2 years ago
@Texarmageddon Other things to note. The Cobra R is a riced out piece of N/A garbage, thank God they only made a couple of those heaps of trash. The 03-04 Cobra 4.6L were supercharged 4V's out of the factory and fully forged and will be eternally one of the best factory motors ever made as well as retain their value for time to come. Yes I called the Cobra R riced out, if you saw that body kit on a Honda you'd say the same thing, Big Wing, Big Lip...Big Piece of Trash.
helloman1976 2 years ago
@helloman1976 I think you should do some research, it might help you understand the Cobra R a little better...
dishtherock1 1 year ago
your a idiot man. The 2000 Cobra R is anything bur riced out. The wing was the best in testing of over 50 different wings. I love the cobra R and it too came with a forged engine that basically got topped with a super charger and got dropped into the ford GT 5 years later...
DaBluedude100 1 year ago
@DaBluedude100 Sorry bro, say what you will. The body kit says rice, Honda have the same body kit...big lip, big wing...riced out...just glad they only made 300 of these POSes
helloman1976 1 year ago
@helloman1976 So all the Grand Am series cars are rice too huh? It's a little different when that splitter and wing are both functional and needed. The cobra r is a factory built race car. Way to make yourself look like an ass.
MrIdidyourmother 1 year ago
@MrIdidyourmother Sorry brotha but the Cobra R is the definition of RICE
helloman1976 1 year ago
@helloman1976 Care to explain that one? Without pointing out functional aerodynamic parts? Yes a big wing is rice on fwd car that never sees road course time, and yes a big lip is rice when it's never needed. How is it rice when it's on a car designed to dominate a road course?
MrIdidyourmother 1 year ago
@MrIdidyourmother Sure, big lip, big wing on any car and you call it RICE. Is this car different because it was made like that from the factory or because it's "functional"? Isnt an S2000 with a big lip and big wing "functional"? Call it what it is, it's RICE. I can appreciate the car and what it was made for but the body kit is RICE. FINAL ANSWER.
helloman1976 1 year ago
@helloman1976 Well I just don't know what to do now that so many track dedicated cars are rice for the sake of good lap times. Oh well what do they know anyway
MrIdidyourmother 1 year ago
@MrIdidyourmother Step 1, stop calling a street car that COULD be used on the track a track car. Step 2, If you are worried about good lap times then build a car for the track and keep it there dont try to put it on the street with all the sponsorship stickers, big lip, big spoiler with 17" rims or guess what...you'll be called RICER!!! Good luck.
helloman1976 1 year ago
@helloman1976 You idiot don't you know the Cobra R's body kit and spoiler was tested in an air-tunnel for better downforce, unlike a Civic which has a spoiler and body kit from Autozone. Also the Cobra R a naturally aspirated 5.4L V8 producing over 385 horsepower and 385 lbs. of torque, the conversation ends there. Way to post stupid statements without knowing your facts.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
cobra 4.6 DOHC is supercharged not turboed
hugney51 1 year ago
same deal relatively speaking. local told me already i didnt even know i said turbo till he said it.
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@h23oscar you need to watch what you say with that remark... mustangs and civics compare in no wau what so ever... mustang is a big, loud rumbling beast and a civic is a small and nimble machine... maybe a focus to a civic but not the mustang...
BYCURE213 1 year ago
kreigsmann are you a stupid asshole?! do you know how many people put 5.4s in a mustang without any problems?! its been done hundreds of times your just to stupid and ignorant to realize it!
hugney51 2 years ago
shut the fuck up bitchass
you can fit any engine in almost any car ive seen a 440 in a gremlin
but whats the point of putting a 5.4 in a mustang when a 5.0 can fit far better without any problems
those extra 4 deca litres arent gonna do any diference
the 5.0 its so much of a better engine than the 5.4 they can go in any car have any mod.
kreigsmann 2 years ago
@kreigsmann ur an idiot. plain and simple. its like saying hey. a 2v will fit just as well as a 4v. and a 2v is just as good? lol. go back to school
94OJGT 2 years ago
the fuck r u talking about
you have no clue what im talking about do you?
just stfu
kreigsmann 2 years ago
ok well the 5.4 is just as good as the 5.0 if not better! you can beaf up a 5.4 easily. dont get me wrong the 5.0 is a awesome motor but the 5.4 can take me in the long run
hugney51 2 years ago
no
the 5.0 has so many upgrades theres no comparison
necessity drives invention
how old is the 5.4? a few years at most
the 5.0 is decades old
there so many upgrades that can be done to give the engine several hundred hp naturally aspirated theres even a high flow intake manifold witch is very rare for fuel injected cars not even engines that are often used in raceing have that option.
the 5.4 is for a truck it is a piece of shit the only thing it can do is have an engine light on for longer.
kreigsmann 2 years ago
you could to do a lot with a 5.4! you can use mustang heads on a 5.4 because the top end is completely the same. the only thing different is the bottom end. and parts are very available for the bottom end considering the gt500 has the same bottom end!
hugney51 2 years ago
@h23oscar
that doesnt sound cammed to you? wow, you have no idea.
NO ONE LISTEN TO A WORD THIS GUY HAS TO SAY... LOL
jsid7 1 year ago
which 5.4? (2 valve or 3?)
submitaweasel 2 years ago
its a 2V if its a GT.... which it is if you look at the back
xmodrock 2 years ago
gt's didnt come with a 5.4. its a swapped engine.
submitaweasel 2 years ago 4
true if it was a stock engine, all he did was get a new engine, still a SOHC though.
USMC411 2 years ago
perhaps he just stroked it?? and its still the same 2V stang engine
xmodrock 2 years ago
As far as I know you cannot but a 5.4L stroker kit for the 4.6L, the biggest I have seen is a 5.3L. It is not the same engine, it was swapped from most likely an F-150
USMC411 2 years ago
or ford racing's romeo engine.. lol
xmodrock 2 years ago
what did you do about the drive by wire thing?
Treyb0220 2 years ago
Sounds great, this is the swap I want to do to my 98.
ShopforCFcom 2 years ago
What is better the 3 valve SOHC or the 4 valve DOHC??
FoxIsMyBitch 2 years ago
4v but if u want a 4v u have to get it out of like a ford racing Magizine 3v i can get out of a wrecked F150 or expedition REALLY cheap
mj23polairs 2 years ago
or u can just get the 4v from a navigator they only came out from 99-02 and came 290 hp from factory
hectordagodfather 2 years ago
4v.. more expensive, but worth it
rocky440 2 years ago 2
Part No. on the cams
turbo96stang 2 years ago
why doesn't ford just throw a 5.4 in the mustangs stock?
farmer00boy 2 years ago 4