Ok the test is now officially over! I stoped it after 3 hours, because thats enough of steady flow Thats is with 20 european metric liters or 80 Anglo American cubic feet Just regulate it by hand to the right size and ignore what ever the meter says or doesent say, and you will get around 1 hour even with 40 Anglo American cubic feet or 10 or even 9 L of compressed Nitrogen gas. Ignore the readings on the pressure gauge and just concentrate on regulating the pressure walve on top of the cylinder
Carried out a personal test. My pressure gauge was broken, but with a steady pressure i got around 1.5 hours of steady Nitrogen flow. Works in Finland. Leaves no real trace to the body for autopsy to find, and is all perfectly legal. That is with a 80 cubic feet or 20-european metric liters. Ignore the numbers on the pressure gauge and just let the gas flow smoothly and ajust the gass pressure with your hand. Have the taxi driver carie it for you and say it is for a special online science test.
I will be running a test myself very soon but the pressure inide the tank was around 200-bar A normal North-American gas cylinder. The gas output pressure was 7psi or 0,5 bar. There was 80-cubic feet of gas in the tank. The flow lasted for 8-minutes. The cylinder was 2-feet or 60-centimeters tall without the handle.
The time you lose when the bag fills is gained as the bag empties, IF you hurry FAST and empty your lungs real quick! You only need 5-minutes inside the bag.
Ok tests have now been carried out with 80-cubic feet of comperessed Nitrogen gas, wich is around 22-european metric liters. The gas flow lasted for 8-minutes with the gas output pressure of 0.5 bar or 7 psi, and with around 20 european metric liters that would be around 7-minutes of gas flow. The old gas should stay long enough in the bag for new gas to come to replace it. Suffocation happens in 4-6 minutes.
@JonesHenry03 So the flow only lasted for 7 minutes and the cylinder is now empty? That is a very short time. I thought with the right setup you could get at least an hour of flow at a safe rate which would be 15 LPM(liters per minute). This tells me that you need something to control the flow like a flowmeter. What was the cylinder pressurized to when you started the test?
After careful consideration i now recommend 1/2 bar and 40-80 cubif feet of Nitrogen gas. Much safer flow rate, so it wont burst the bag. Thats around 7.5 psi by the way. Use an industrial Nitrogen pressure gauge and some cheap pressure tubing of around 2-meters in length and 4-6mm in diameter.
I actually heared from a friend in Canada that a Nitrogen Cylinder of 80-cubic feet is only 60-centimeters high, wich is even better! So basicly it's less than 3-feet tall. I would personally recommend that. Even better!
If I had a terminal illness, such as Alzheimers, I would prefer to use the services of the non-profit organization, "Dignitas", in Switzerland, where assisted suicide is legal & ethical, anything less is a barbaric suicide, However, the alternative methods are to obtain a lethal dose of Pentobarbital and do it by self, only *lastly* should you use the *very problematic* "Helium Exit Hood/Bag Method" - your body still goes through a "Hypercapnic Response", and the hood can easily tear off.
@DRLAPAGLIA Wikipedia States "Deprivation of oxygen in the presence of carbon dioxide creates panic and a sense of suffocation (the hypercapnic alarm response), and struggling even when unconscious, whereas anoxia in the presence of an inert gas, like nitrogen, helium or argon, does not."
Thank you so much for all the work you do. It must be very hard with all the hatred you get from those who don't understand what it's like. I talked about my issues with a close friend for the first time and I feel some relief. It's good to have everything off my chest even for a short while. I'm still going to prepare everything so that I retain control over my life, but for the time being I'm gonna see a few more sunrises. For anyone else thinking about taking the plunge, I wish u peace
I dont understand how hat lit´tle tank 2,5liter?How coun´lud it kill you and just not make you incousioness?You need a flow between 10-15liter/minut and you will pas sout after some few breath but your not dead until 5-20minutes of flow,Think of tha´t!Oterwise you will woke up with severe braindamages and live,.I think you would need at leat 2x 20liter tanks connected med t conncetion.You are just sleeping and it taks at least 5-10minutes before whole body is totally dead
Would a helium cylinder that size really work as opposed to a larger one? Storing a smaller cylinder is much more convenient and it's cheaper to buy, however is 12 minutes of helium flow really enough?
Some say you need two tanks and it seems to me even one is far more than enough...if 'coma comes in seconds, and death in only minutes'. So how can it matter if the tank is full? Tank/hose/elastic band/any bag will do. Special nozzle and gauge are pointless steps /expense.
I notice on some videos, they use two tanks, yet you say I will only need one. How much helium do I really need to do the job? I'd like to not make any mistakes, yet I don't want to use two when one is sufficient.
Just knowing about the Exit Bag with helium gives me a peace of mind: knowing that I could end this all if it all becomes unbearable. So, it is a sort of narcotic: gives strength to go another mile, to live another day, because a person has everything ready and can use it if a need arises. "And I can take or leave it if I please": give a person a sense of control despite the fact that life is totally out of control due to pain or suffering.
Ok the test is now officially over! I stoped it after 3 hours, because thats enough of steady flow Thats is with 20 european metric liters or 80 Anglo American cubic feet Just regulate it by hand to the right size and ignore what ever the meter says or doesent say, and you will get around 1 hour even with 40 Anglo American cubic feet or 10 or even 9 L of compressed Nitrogen gas. Ignore the readings on the pressure gauge and just concentrate on regulating the pressure walve on top of the cylinder
JonesHenry03 2 days ago
Carried out a personal test. My pressure gauge was broken, but with a steady pressure i got around 1.5 hours of steady Nitrogen flow. Works in Finland. Leaves no real trace to the body for autopsy to find, and is all perfectly legal. That is with a 80 cubic feet or 20-european metric liters. Ignore the numbers on the pressure gauge and just let the gas flow smoothly and ajust the gass pressure with your hand. Have the taxi driver carie it for you and say it is for a special online science test.
JonesHenry03 2 days ago
Thank you, doctor.
you are the bravest man among many self righteous people who want to see (unsolvable)suffering among people with problem.
jojoinhere 1 month ago
I will be running a test myself very soon but the pressure inide the tank was around 200-bar A normal North-American gas cylinder. The gas output pressure was 7psi or 0,5 bar. There was 80-cubic feet of gas in the tank. The flow lasted for 8-minutes. The cylinder was 2-feet or 60-centimeters tall without the handle.
The time you lose when the bag fills is gained as the bag empties, IF you hurry FAST and empty your lungs real quick! You only need 5-minutes inside the bag.
JonesHenry03 1 month ago
Ok tests have now been carried out with 80-cubic feet of comperessed Nitrogen gas, wich is around 22-european metric liters. The gas flow lasted for 8-minutes with the gas output pressure of 0.5 bar or 7 psi, and with around 20 european metric liters that would be around 7-minutes of gas flow. The old gas should stay long enough in the bag for new gas to come to replace it. Suffocation happens in 4-6 minutes.
JonesHenry03 1 month ago
@JonesHenry03 So the flow only lasted for 7 minutes and the cylinder is now empty? That is a very short time. I thought with the right setup you could get at least an hour of flow at a safe rate which would be 15 LPM(liters per minute). This tells me that you need something to control the flow like a flowmeter. What was the cylinder pressurized to when you started the test?
kj6754 1 month ago
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After careful consideration i now recommend 1/2 bar and 40-80 cubif feet of Nitrogen gas. Much safer flow rate, so it wont burst the bag. Thats around 7.5 psi by the way. Use an industrial Nitrogen pressure gauge and some cheap pressure tubing of around 2-meters in length and 4-6mm in diameter.
JonesHenry03 2 months ago
I actually heared from a friend in Canada that a Nitrogen Cylinder of 80-cubic feet is only 60-centimeters high, wich is even better! So basicly it's less than 3-feet tall. I would personally recommend that. Even better!
JonesHenry03 2 months ago
Try a Nitrogen tank of 40-cubic feet instead, with 14 psi gas output pressure.
JonesHenry03 2 months ago
If I had a terminal illness, such as Alzheimers, I would prefer to use the services of the non-profit organization, "Dignitas", in Switzerland, where assisted suicide is legal & ethical, anything less is a barbaric suicide, However, the alternative methods are to obtain a lethal dose of Pentobarbital and do it by self, only *lastly* should you use the *very problematic* "Helium Exit Hood/Bag Method" - your body still goes through a "Hypercapnic Response", and the hood can easily tear off.
DRLAPAGLIA 2 months ago
@DRLAPAGLIA Wikipedia States "Deprivation of oxygen in the presence of carbon dioxide creates panic and a sense of suffocation (the hypercapnic alarm response), and struggling even when unconscious, whereas anoxia in the presence of an inert gas, like nitrogen, helium or argon, does not."
Doesumama 1 month ago
What's the pressure on output of the gas flow fitting?
kwysSAN 3 months ago
int this economy this is fantastic news!
imlomb 4 months ago
are you fucki ng kidding me. this is disgusting!! my bf just killed himself this way....i cant believe he researched it...
heywood12xu 4 months ago
Thank you so much for all the work you do. It must be very hard with all the hatred you get from those who don't understand what it's like. I talked about my issues with a close friend for the first time and I feel some relief. It's good to have everything off my chest even for a short while. I'm still going to prepare everything so that I retain control over my life, but for the time being I'm gonna see a few more sunrises. For anyone else thinking about taking the plunge, I wish u peace
rampage241 4 months ago 8
One 20-liter industrial tank of pure Nitrogen should be enough. Death takes only around 5-minutes
JonesHenry03 5 months ago
I dont understand how hat lit´tle tank 2,5liter?How coun´lud it kill you and just not make you incousioness?You need a flow between 10-15liter/minut and you will pas sout after some few breath but your not dead until 5-20minutes of flow,Think of tha´t!Oterwise you will woke up with severe braindamages and live,.I think you would need at leat 2x 20liter tanks connected med t conncetion.You are just sleeping and it taks at least 5-10minutes before whole body is totally dead
kastakaskar 5 months ago
Would a helium cylinder that size really work as opposed to a larger one? Storing a smaller cylinder is much more convenient and it's cheaper to buy, however is 12 minutes of helium flow really enough?
0FNB333 5 months ago
Where do you get the flow fitting??? Does it come with rented helium tanks?
Mohonnova 5 months ago
I can't get a flow fitting. What else is usable?
Babbyliciousss 6 months ago
Use an industrial Nitrogen tank!
JonesHenry03 7 months ago
does it really matter if you have a Flow Regulator or not?
alexanderjamesninnim 8 months ago
Some say you need two tanks and it seems to me even one is far more than enough...if 'coma comes in seconds, and death in only minutes'. So how can it matter if the tank is full? Tank/hose/elastic band/any bag will do. Special nozzle and gauge are pointless steps /expense.
shoegooguru 9 months ago
I notice on some videos, they use two tanks, yet you say I will only need one. How much helium do I really need to do the job? I'd like to not make any mistakes, yet I don't want to use two when one is sufficient.
tarhen12 9 months ago
How long does the tank last without the flow regulator? Can I do it without the regulator?
RealmEternal 10 months ago
Just knowing about the Exit Bag with helium gives me a peace of mind: knowing that I could end this all if it all becomes unbearable. So, it is a sort of narcotic: gives strength to go another mile, to live another day, because a person has everything ready and can use it if a need arises. "And I can take or leave it if I please": give a person a sense of control despite the fact that life is totally out of control due to pain or suffering.
userosNamosDos 11 months ago 15
Where do you get flow fitting device from?
rafapak 1 year ago
damn...
Should I do this or what?
nurbsenvi 1 year ago
@nurbsenvi Should you check the available helium pressure before attempting to use an Exit Bag? Absolutely.
Should you use an Exit Bag? Only as a last resort.
MIJVI 1 year ago
@MIJVI
do you know where i can buy an exit bag?
MistahMurkle 1 year ago
@MistahMurkle
The Helios Group heliosgroup(at)roxxmail.ch sells them
ModernTanato 8 months ago