What I wanna know. Screw everything else, why is this guy smelling his own jock strap? Is he lifting it to his nose and sniffing? Or is the funk from his nuts so nasty he takes it off and can smell it?
LL may have had more pop appeal but Moe Dee was the better rapper period. LL had his chance to battle Moe Dee at the Apollo but punked out. I was there.
Kool Moe Dee whooped Cool J's ass. Simple. I have been lucky enough to see Moe Dee freestyle - I was 14 at the time... wanted to become a rapper... he left me in awe... put me off as I knew I would never come close !!! lol :O)
In this Battle I would say Moe Dee is like Biggie & LL is Like Pac, meaning Moe Dee Was hands down a more lyrical Rapper!!! that last verse on Death Blow is Career Ending!!! But on the other hand LL Is no Slouch!!!!! & Does a Better Job of making you Feel it in Your Chest!!!!! Feel Me!
"I'm a rock them L's! Low life loser, life like luna, lacksadaisical, listless luna, Tic liver lifeless, living likeness, lusting longing lyrics like this, little league, lard larsonist liar, label ledger, left the leper lia, bull, lull, lateral learning, laps language latent lurking, language, language, local logo, light laboring, limited local"
@alex06free That was always my fav part. For LL to say he won is just crazy. I like the video a lot and also his open line... Star Trek shades come on.
LL COOL J flow was way ahead of Moe dee's rhyme style. This sounds like it was from the 70s. Now Listen to LL's flow from early 90s, it still stands up todays flow!
@ILuvSauce13 you can't tell me about music, read what I said. Im talking about the flow, not the sample or sound. Excuse me, let be clear here. His rhyme style, his rap style. Get it son!
@ILuvSauce13 I could care less what anyone else thinks, It my opinion. I made a comment, I didn't reply to anyones point. Because unlike you sir, i understand and respect other peoples opinion. I know most people on this post like KMD, it doesn't take a Genius to figure that out, its videos. It still sux, he does too, boo hoo!
@kizo12 then if its your opinion and mine then why would you care about my opinion. if you don't care about what i say then don't reply to my comment buddy. simple as that.
@ILuvSauce13 lol you commented on my post first! I replied to the comment you made to my post. As you can see, there's different opinions, if I cared what everyone else thought, I would've commented on everyone else's. I wrote on my thoughts, LL COOL J GOAT! lol
@kizo12 yea i did cuz ur post was stupid. kool moe is dope and so is ll but saying that ll is better cuz his style is way ahead is dumb. kool moe has more experience and all of that. now if you didnt like kool moe then you wouldn't comment on this here dope song and we wouldn't be here fighting about this now would we? Thank you very much bud.
@kizo12 thought the same thing watching this now finally and seeing it lol,, LL was light years ahead of many,,only a few went super huge after this stage of hip hop,,Will Smith is another
@rakimkoolgrapwutang OMG! where you come up with this stuff! Rakims, flow is light years ahead. Listen to this flow and youtube a couple more vids of KMD, then do a search on Rakims vids. Seriously!
wow KMD killed LL IF IT WASNT 4 LL looks and him being more popular bc of the ladies it wouldnt even have been close LL be glad light skin was in when this battle came about lmao
haha old dirty bastard was going to do a track with ll cool j but when he got to the studio he pulled j's platinum placks of the wall and pissed on them
Are you listening to what this legend is saying? If you say this is garbage you probably don't have a clue about TRUE lyricism in Hip Hop. It's okay rookie!
I like LL better.$ da simple fact.everything about him appealed to me.Especially compared to KMD.BUt! heres da but! KMD wud destroy LL in a battle.And LL never wanted to test KMD in person.He always kept it on wax.KMD use to be like.A yo"L" where u at lets get mics out and go 12 rounds".LL never wanted to take it there.
FACT: KMD himself has stated that this was his worst album proving that LL didn't win because of POPULARITY ! you can't battle a new school rapper rhymin over a stink ass ALREADY done old school James Brown beat & EXPECT TO WIN AGAINST SOMEONE LIKE LL ! and this low budget video didn't help either...niggas in the hood was laughin at KMD....may I also mention the FACT that it took LL one verse to state how corny KMD was in "To Da Break Of Dawn" whereas KMD had to do 3 verses ?! sorry but LL WINS
@lawplanet12 Yea, but L.L. was on Ice-T and MC Hammer on more verses than Kool Moe Dee. Yea Moe Dee said that Funke Wisdom was his worse. (I beg to differ). But you got to understand that Kool Moe Dee was doing a lot of the older samples because older peeps were not buying records sales and the young peeps. And it worked for him. NOW the young bucks are on Moe Dee's style. Most of the new rappers out there? You can hear Moe Dee. Sorry but Moe Dee Wins.
"A close casket and they won't show ya, when I finish yo mama won't know ya" After 20 years this is still, "The Cut" LL never responded to this. How could he?..stole this quote from an earlier comment but i felt it should be on tha first page...KMD won no doubt, without selling out, without all tha big money promotions. He jus kept comin back wit that insanely smooth flow, lyrically cuttin ll up with evry line. Thats how i kno he won, enough said.
yall talking all this shit but yet after this, KOOL MOE DEE WAS NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN !! some of yall need to go back and do your research..LL responded back & MURDERED him with "I Be Getting Busy" on Marley Marl's In Control Volume 2 the same way he murdered Moe Dee with "Jack The Ripper"...another thing yall forget is that lyrics are not THE only aspect that wins a battle....LL spit hard while making fun of him while KMD sounded like an Old School Father Figure trying to get his mojo back
@lawplanet12 KMD won by not selling his soul and being yet another generic rapper that has his songs written for him. He's educated and enlightened. LL is a joke. People like him because of his fame and popularity. The people who like KMD respect him. Anyone that tries to sing, rap, write, produce, etc about anything having to do with educating people and trying to wake them up never "make it big". Just the people who spew non-sense BS because most people are sheep and like mindless garbage.
@Jinxxed0 oh I sooooo agree with you...I'm a Kool Moe Doe fan myself since his days with the Treacherous Three so don't misunderstand me....education & enlightment is incredible but when it comes to a rap BATTLE, there are way more factors involve....KMD was way too serious & take it from someone who won EVERY battle he was in...I remember when this record came out & being among the general overall rap circle, NO ONE was feeling this record & KMD never responded back to "I Be Getting Busy"
"A close casket and they won't show ya, when I finish yo mama won't know ya" After 20 years this is still, "The Cut" LL never responded to this. How could he?!
@Nawlinsfanforlife I think "Let's Go" was the best blow in the whole battle. That Mama Said Knock You Out crap or what ever the hell it was... the WORST attempt EVER. Laughable! And that was supposed to be the comeback to Let's Go. Ha! Embarrassing!!
Moe Dee got on ly 2 or 3 good songs and this 1 is Not 1 of em!! and ur tryin 2 tell me and the whole white world that this crappy song is his answer 2 mama said knock u out?!!! u must be really retarded with hearin impaired and obviously sight with those dum glasses. and btw the GoAT is not just an album but a God of Wisdom
@repeatpasswordforme What?!!! Mama Said Knock you out was the weakest attempt at a comeback to Let's Go you could possible imagine. KMD finished it with that one, LL said it himself... I had to go ask my momma what to do next. Momma should have said, "Shut your damn mouth, son, you're in over your head!!"
kool moe dee and ll cool j for life. ll cool j was more of a flashy rapper despite being one of the first to not have a shirt on lol, both respect for dee and cool j.
@PhenomAJ Just 9 years back,they even said Nelly won a battle against KRS One. I didn't even bother to buy that one. Just like I wouldn't buy it if someone says that clown won against Moe Dee.
What a great way of putting it, LL lost because he is not a lyricist, his is a fame whore who is still around and it's all good. But put him live on mic against KMD.... his ANNIHILATION IS ASSURED!
@curtisb3000 yeah kmd wins when it comes to rhymes. i just mean that ll also came with some classic lyrics. i never was a cool j fan but i remember when he came hard on epmd's record. it was fire
LL has some of most classic songs in Hip Hop period and he represents the school which KMD is from so as long as LL is around KMD still lives. Without LL who would know KMD except for the hardcore?
@curtisb3000 kool mo dee been doing it even before i was born and i'm 30 years old now. but i like to check out history. my favorite ll joint might be.
Man ll was the mutha fffin man, but he lost two great battles Kool Moe Dee and then Canibus. he did this to LL twice. despite all the scuccess these will always be battles that may never mean much in the fast food music world. but to those who understand and love mcing with a passion, this is a golden example of mcing on a higher level. respect to oboth tho ll and moe dee are both legends.
Fair enough, LL went on to success, but that means nothing. Both entertained fans with a battle that showed they were equal in skills. Nowadays, there's a disgusting trend of trying to avoid battles so as not to burn bridges. See: All Jay-Z's moves over the past 5 years, and Eminem's non-dissing of Kanye and Wayne. I'm not an old-school snob at all but battling appears to have been killed off by hip-hop's realization of its own pop potential. Which means the fans lose out.
@DawgcityClev - canibus is/was doing 1985 ll he destroyed his career and has not been able to come back return of the jacker was canibus ether. why people keep acting like LL did not finish him is beyond me.
@beatmakersuniversity I didnt ask for your fanboy ass response. Cannibus ate LL alive. LL was and is apart of the faggotry that spreads throughout hollywood which is why they helped take Cannibus out of sight. Lyrically he destroyed LL. End of story.
@beatmakersuniversity thats just LL being humble, but the truth is LL career continued and Moe Dee's was over. Check the line in "I Shot Ya" "I crushed Hammer Ice T and Moe Dee's curl
@amensupremera -well no because when they were battling kmd was on jive records and he routinely went gold.that was the height of moe dees career/succes he never had a plaque before they battled.
@amensupremera LL' career only went on b/c he sold out and made all of those pop hits, but they were great songs. His career as lyrical MC was done along time player. Kool Mo Dee and Canibus both made sure of that
@blaaket123 Lets just disregard record sales(sarcasm intended) Canibus CD went double doo doo despite having one of the greatest diss tracks of all time. LL won that b/c he responded w/ The Ripper Returns(Can I Bus) and went platinum with GOAT and Canibus aint been relevant since. Rhymes of the month in the Source for 20 years. LL is a HipHop Icon can came through those battles unscathed. As far as rap battles when career are in the line LL and Cube are the best at diss tracks and longevity
@amensupremera Unscathed. Come on!!! Jay z and LL are both on same plan. Both guys who made hits, but got murded lyrical in battles. LL didn't come out unscathed. Any person that listened to those battles knows that LL lost and got exposed as a non lyrical MC. Kool Mo Dee killed him here. The last verse is sick and video just the icing on the cake.
@ReLZuNo I couldnt pic a winner out of that one. They both kinda broke even on that one. I don't really remember anyhting outstanding about either sides diss tracks
Low life loser, life like luna Lafidasical, lispless luna Tic liver lifeless, living likeness Lusting longing lyrics like this Little league, lard larsonist liar Label ledger, left the leper liar Bull, lull, lateral learning Laps language latent lurking Language, language, local logo Light laboring, limited local wtf does dat mean
wat is kmd tryin 2 say wen he uses dat alliteration of l. i dont have a clue. i tried lookin up sum of da words in da dictionary but wat does lafidisical and luna mean. wats a lispless luna
one good thing about this beff it did'nt get violent but both men had there jabs at each other L L cool j is still around but i think kool moe dee won this battle..
ll is a legend made 1 of the best albums ever is a true great so stop hatingi dont like his new stuff either but mama said knock u out is a classicalbum
moe dee and LL WAS SUPPOSE TO BATTLE AT THE APOLLO ONE YEAR BACK IN THE DAY, L DIDNT SHOW UP. . .THEN HE CRUCIFIED LL ON THIS SONG CALLED LETS GO, I MEAN HE JUST DESTROYED L. . AND I THINK L IS DEFINITELY TOP 5 RAPPER ALL TIME CHECK [ ORIGINAL ROCK THE BELLS ] AND WHEN YOU CHECK THAT SONG KEEP IN MIND LL WAS 17 AND REALLY KILLIN THE SONG BUT HE DIDNT WANT NO PARTS OF MOE DEE ON THE BATTLES.
Nah.. LL murdered him.. lyrical styles were changing at the time LL dropped "To the Break A Dawn", but Moe Dee was still stuck in that old 1985 rap flow.. He didn't evolve with the times..
@Alkebulan32 Naw, LL sounds like the slow ass bitch with boring ass beats that never evolved. Kool Moe Dee uses some James Brown samples but it's LL's beats that sound whack, simple, and uninspired! Kool won the battle in spite of the LL hype machine.
FOR THOSE WHO KNOW REAL HIP-HOP, LL's "I Be Getting Busy" is the song that ended Kool Moe Dee's career..YOU CAN FIND IT HERE ON YOU TUBE AND HEAR HOW LL MURDERED MOE DEE !! everyone who knows hip-hop knows the battle rules....IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL ONE STOPS RESPONDING SIGNALING THE FACT THAT THEY HAD NOTHING FOR THE LAST DART THROWN ! Kool Moe Dee NEVER responded back to this song & as a result, he fell off ! if he won all these battles, then he shoulda been able to stand & keep movin
@lawplanet12 If we can't find the song then it never happen pimp. upload the song so we can hear it. chances are LL didn't write the lyrics. he didn't start writing until later in his career. do your research pimp.
@lawplanet12 I found the song you were referring to......the only problem I have with that track is, it's hard to figure out who LL is talking about. The 1st and last part of the song could have been about Moe D but LL beats around the bush wich leads me to believe he didn't write it..... It's no secret who Moe D is talking about in his tracks. Like I said earlier, LL can perform and act......Moe D. can challenge you on paper. No contest on who's the better Lyricist.
@WALTERTISDALE yes it did !!! listen to verse 3 as well as LL told me this when I met him ! and either way, LL was way too advanced lyrically by then...when "Death Blow" came out, niggas in my hood was laughing...I can't lie...."Death Blow" was a lot stronger than "Let's Go" but he just came off looking like an old school bitter rap artist who knew that his time was up...Kool Moe Dee was the past whereas LL proved that he was meant to have longer life in the music biz
I DID THE RESEARCH AND PPL JUST ,ACTED LIKE KIDS IN SCHOOL AFRAID 2 FORM THEIR OWN OPINION
IM A DIE HARD FAN OF BOTH,BUT LL HAS PROVE THAT HE CAN/HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME. WITH ALL THESE "LIL' YOUNG" RAPPERS OUT HERE --KMD DID NOT COME OFF LIKE A OLD BITTER MAN,ONLY THOSE WHO R FANS OF LL REALLY BELIVE THAT AND SOME DONT WANT 2 ADMIT THAT EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN SQUASHED A LONG TIME AGO--RAPMAINA--ITS JUST LL WAS MORE POPULAR AND PPL DIDNT/WONT
@WALTERTISDALE in a rap BATTLE, nobody wants to be educated and nobody cares if you have a High School Diploma...it's about wit & skill versatility, LL made a mockery of KMD especially with that Star Trek shades line...us young kids were studying the lyrics & what was being said which is why i say once again because i remember the word on the street..NIGGAS LAUGHED AT KMD..it had nothing to do with Popularity because if it did, then KMD should've really won because he was already very popular
@WALTERTISDALE & that's not saying nothing against KMD because he is one of thee GREATEST MC's of all-time but them old school rhymes & wack ass ALREADY DONE James Brown beats wasn't strong enough to go against songs like "Droppin Em", "Why Do You Think They Call It Dope", "Murdergram", "Crime Story", "It Gets No Rougher", "Def Jam In The Motherland" which was the songs that showcase the best of LL's LYRICAL VERSATILE SKILL....no love songs or mainstream shit..straight rhymes..do your research
noooo Kool Moe Dee really ripped LLs ass in the beef!!!
thefatalveli1 1 hour ago
Moe Dee killed LL on this track! Just like Canibus whupped LL's ass
rustee2007 5 days ago
Moe Dee killed LL on this track!!!! RIP LL
TheBigdade071 6 days ago
LL murdered this dude, but Canibus murdered LL lyrically ,but then Eminem murdered Canibus and it continues
russrusso75 1 week ago
Moe Dee was so underrated. Guy was as good as anybody's been, straight up.
Braktooth 1 week ago 3
kool moe.. a good reply to LL COOL J..good old fashioned batteling... this is hiphop boy..
Ninjafushen 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos 5
ll is bad nobody is badder kool mo got more crabs than a sea food platter!!!lol
gspeigle 2 weeks ago
What I wanna know. Screw everything else, why is this guy smelling his own jock strap? Is he lifting it to his nose and sniffing? Or is the funk from his nuts so nasty he takes it off and can smell it?
Lestat3721 3 weeks ago
Death Blow hands down better than to the Break of Dawn. Sorryy LL. I still like you on NCIS-LA!
TheSugarbear1988 3 weeks ago
LL may have had more pop appeal but Moe Dee was the better rapper period. LL had his chance to battle Moe Dee at the Apollo but punked out. I was there.
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larsy1313 3 weeks ago
If this was in response to LL Cool J To The Break of Dawn then it was a huge failure.
LL killed 3 guys’ careers with that joint.
Kool Moe Dee was outmoded.
Shadowboxe 4 weeks ago
i love kool moe dee, but ll is overall better *
callumbrowns 1 month ago
Kool Moe Dee whooped Cool J's ass. Simple. I have been lucky enough to see Moe Dee freestyle - I was 14 at the time... wanted to become a rapper... he left me in awe... put me off as I knew I would never come close !!! lol :O)
xarixanixuaniusa 1 month ago
This is the one song that showcased Kool Moe Dee's true skills. EXCELLENT work. he deserved better success.
CINEMALEXZIKON 1 month ago in playlist Kool moe dee 3
The lyrics are better on this but LL had better beats.....sadly.
maccagrabme 1 month ago
tell em how u fell L "HARD AS HELL"
jawzmuzik 1 month ago
sup cracked
LiamMcRaeMusic 1 month ago
Moe dee murked him....just the public is ignorant and inconsistent
TrueSinister 1 month ago
D84D got love for this pioneer.... however we know how this 'battle' worked out. Put him on the shelf with Melle Mel.
D84D 1 month ago
RIP LL
michaeljfreak 1 month ago
lol LL aint win no battles
smacccityent 1 month ago
LL who???
BigQDtheRhymeKilla 1 month ago 2
LOL at the refs face 4:28
prospect42191 1 month ago
i think by this time the style of rappin mo dee wasnt fuckin ll cool j style
MrMaru211b 1 month ago
kool moe dee mohandas is underated
jayd4ever 2 months ago
@rakimkoolgrapwutang ok I'm following, how do you figure though??
kizo12 2 months ago
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IluvSauce13 I'm done with you, you can't even read between the lines, go back to original post, your post are stupid.
kizo12 2 months ago
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In this Battle I would say Moe Dee is like Biggie & LL is Like Pac, meaning Moe Dee Was hands down a more lyrical Rapper!!! that last verse on Death Blow is Career Ending!!! But on the other hand LL Is no Slouch!!!!! & Does a Better Job of making you Feel it in Your Chest!!!!! Feel Me!
BearArmRecords 2 months ago
I always heard the tape but never saw the vid. "todd todd I told you not to go messin' with Moe Dee" LMAO
mpmarvin999 2 months ago
omfgggg I never seen this vid but remember when this track came out hehehe!~!
akuTee2010Elle 2 months ago
I was born the year this came out, its awesome.
jlawton22 2 months ago
"I'm a rock them L's! Low life loser, life like luna, lacksadaisical, listless luna, Tic liver lifeless, living likeness, lusting longing lyrics like this, little league, lard larsonist liar, label ledger, left the leper lia, bull, lull, lateral learning, laps language latent lurking, language, language, local logo, light laboring, limited local"
?????? WTF!
alex06free 2 months ago 9
@alex06free LL Cool J had a song called Rock The Bells
seanismad100 2 months ago
@alex06free That was always my fav part. For LL to say he won is just crazy. I like the video a lot and also his open line... Star Trek shades come on.
blaaket123 3 days ago
LL COOL J flow was way ahead of Moe dee's rhyme style. This sounds like it was from the 70s. Now Listen to LL's flow from early 90s, it still stands up todays flow!
kizo12 2 months ago 2
@kizo12 maybe cuz the bg music was a 70's hit. learn about the roots of music b4 you diss kool moe. i do like ll but still dont just talk away.
ILuvSauce13 2 months ago
@ILuvSauce13 you can't tell me about music, read what I said. Im talking about the flow, not the sample or sound. Excuse me, let be clear here. His rhyme style, his rap style. Get it son!
kizo12 2 months ago
@kizo12 well it doesn't matter cuz people here like kool moe dee better and you can't change the way they think bro. sorry.
ILuvSauce13 2 months ago
@ILuvSauce13 I could care less what anyone else thinks, It my opinion. I made a comment, I didn't reply to anyones point. Because unlike you sir, i understand and respect other peoples opinion. I know most people on this post like KMD, it doesn't take a Genius to figure that out, its videos. It still sux, he does too, boo hoo!
kizo12 2 months ago
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@kizo12 then if its your opinion and mine then why would you care about my opinion. if you don't care about what i say then don't reply to my comment buddy. simple as that.
ILuvSauce13 2 months ago
@ILuvSauce13 lol you commented on my post first! I replied to the comment you made to my post. As you can see, there's different opinions, if I cared what everyone else thought, I would've commented on everyone else's. I wrote on my thoughts, LL COOL J GOAT! lol
kizo12 2 months ago
@kizo12 yea i did cuz ur post was stupid. kool moe is dope and so is ll but saying that ll is better cuz his style is way ahead is dumb. kool moe has more experience and all of that. now if you didnt like kool moe then you wouldn't comment on this here dope song and we wouldn't be here fighting about this now would we? Thank you very much bud.
ILuvSauce13 2 months ago
@kizo12 thought the same thing watching this now finally and seeing it lol,, LL was light years ahead of many,,only a few went super huge after this stage of hip hop,,Will Smith is another
akuTee2010Elle 2 months ago 2
@kizo12 this is wer rakim got his flow from
rakimkoolgrapwutang 2 months ago
@rakimkoolgrapwutang OMG! where you come up with this stuff! Rakims, flow is light years ahead. Listen to this flow and youtube a couple more vids of KMD, then do a search on Rakims vids. Seriously!
kizo12 2 months ago
@kizo12 lol just cos rakims flow is more advanced doesnt mean rakims flow wasnt based on kool moe dees
rakimkoolgrapwutang 2 months ago
Yes it does sound like the bass line from Ghostface's track.
mjh6362 2 months ago
This was probably asked already, but the bassline...they used it years later in "Cherchez La Ghost", yes?
QsHoney2be 2 months ago
wow KMD killed LL IF IT WASNT 4 LL looks and him being more popular bc of the ladies it wouldnt even have been close LL be glad light skin was in when this battle came about lmao
TheMartin2545 2 months ago
bad ass
codyramjet 3 months ago
haha old dirty bastard was going to do a track with ll cool j but when he got to the studio he pulled j's platinum placks of the wall and pissed on them
pedroshiphop 3 months ago
If mama said knock me out come do it
You cant win and that bitch knew it
Ahhh friggin classic
Stormdrain 3 months ago
canibus shoulda included in his diss that he "couldent get Past mo Dee now your 0-3 , so who's next on your downword spiral after me"
player3172 3 months ago
@player3172 That was clever, love the downw(o)rd! Do you rap? That was a pretty sick line man.
TheAnimatorEqualizer 2 months ago
1.radio
2.bigger and defer
3.booming systems
4.rock the bells
player3172 3 months ago
kool mo dee is one of the illist and majorly underrated
player3172 3 months ago
LL NCIS KMD ?
funkmystar 3 months ago
LL Cool J got in the ring and didn't come out alive ... he got hit with the DEATH BLOW!
TheAnimatorEqualizer 3 months ago
Moe Dee was nice....but this was garbage...he couldnt keep up
I21GenieLee 3 months ago
@I21GenieLee
Are you listening to what this legend is saying? If you say this is garbage you probably don't have a clue about TRUE lyricism in Hip Hop. It's okay rookie!
curtisb3000 3 months ago
I like LL better.$ da simple fact.everything about him appealed to me.Especially compared to KMD.BUt! heres da but! KMD wud destroy LL in a battle.And LL never wanted to test KMD in person.He always kept it on wax.KMD use to be like.A yo"L" where u at lets get mics out and go 12 rounds".LL never wanted to take it there.
visionkingdom 3 months ago
FACT: KMD himself has stated that this was his worst album proving that LL didn't win because of POPULARITY ! you can't battle a new school rapper rhymin over a stink ass ALREADY done old school James Brown beat & EXPECT TO WIN AGAINST SOMEONE LIKE LL ! and this low budget video didn't help either...niggas in the hood was laughin at KMD....may I also mention the FACT that it took LL one verse to state how corny KMD was in "To Da Break Of Dawn" whereas KMD had to do 3 verses ?! sorry but LL WINS
lawplanet12 3 months ago
@lawplanet12 Yea, but L.L. was on Ice-T and MC Hammer on more verses than Kool Moe Dee. Yea Moe Dee said that Funke Wisdom was his worse. (I beg to differ). But you got to understand that Kool Moe Dee was doing a lot of the older samples because older peeps were not buying records sales and the young peeps. And it worked for him. NOW the young bucks are on Moe Dee's style. Most of the new rappers out there? You can hear Moe Dee. Sorry but Moe Dee Wins.
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"A close casket and they won't show ya, when I finish yo mama won't know ya" After 20 years this is still, "The Cut" LL never responded to this. How could he?..stole this quote from an earlier comment but i felt it should be on tha first page...KMD won no doubt, without selling out, without all tha big money promotions. He jus kept comin back wit that insanely smooth flow, lyrically cuttin ll up with evry line. Thats how i kno he won, enough said.
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lawplanet12 4 months ago
tooo sickk mann !!! takesLL outt no doubtt !!!
brianngee 4 months ago
yall talking all this shit but yet after this, KOOL MOE DEE WAS NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN !! some of yall need to go back and do your research..LL responded back & MURDERED him with "I Be Getting Busy" on Marley Marl's In Control Volume 2 the same way he murdered Moe Dee with "Jack The Ripper"...another thing yall forget is that lyrics are not THE only aspect that wins a battle....LL spit hard while making fun of him while KMD sounded like an Old School Father Figure trying to get his mojo back
lawplanet12 4 months ago
@lawplanet12 KMD won by not selling his soul and being yet another generic rapper that has his songs written for him. He's educated and enlightened. LL is a joke. People like him because of his fame and popularity. The people who like KMD respect him. Anyone that tries to sing, rap, write, produce, etc about anything having to do with educating people and trying to wake them up never "make it big". Just the people who spew non-sense BS because most people are sheep and like mindless garbage.
Jinxxed0 4 months ago
@Jinxxed0 oh I sooooo agree with you...I'm a Kool Moe Doe fan myself since his days with the Treacherous Three so don't misunderstand me....education & enlightment is incredible but when it comes to a rap BATTLE, there are way more factors involve....KMD was way too serious & take it from someone who won EVERY battle he was in...I remember when this record came out & being among the general overall rap circle, NO ONE was feeling this record & KMD never responded back to "I Be Getting Busy"
lawplanet12 4 months ago
this song sucks ass.
aaronx1974 4 months ago
Easily one of the top five rappers of all time.
authorless 4 months ago
Cool Moe Dee in my eye sight is the 2nd greatest rapper of all times, He murdered LL Cool J back in the Eighties, I can remember Pu Up Or Shut Up!!!!
MrOmg313 4 months ago
L.L. can't knock no one out!!!! Moe Dee Murdered L.L.
KingMellow11 4 months ago
I've always rated Kool Moe Dee, but i never like his beats/music, who was his producer?
johnmaveric5 4 months ago
kool moe aint really have shit on l!l!
ricoviciouso 4 months ago
"A close casket and they won't show ya, when I finish yo mama won't know ya" After 20 years this is still, "The Cut" LL never responded to this. How could he?!
Nawlinsfanforlife 4 months ago 2
@Nawlinsfanforlife I think "Let's Go" was the best blow in the whole battle. That Mama Said Knock You Out crap or what ever the hell it was... the WORST attempt EVER. Laughable! And that was supposed to be the comeback to Let's Go. Ha! Embarrassing!!
StrategyFiend 4 months ago
Moe Dee got on ly 2 or 3 good songs and this 1 is Not 1 of em!! and ur tryin 2 tell me and the whole white world that this crappy song is his answer 2 mama said knock u out?!!! u must be really retarded with hearin impaired and obviously sight with those dum glasses. and btw the GoAT is not just an album but a God of Wisdom
repeatpasswordforme 4 months ago
@repeatpasswordforme What?!!! Mama Said Knock you out was the weakest attempt at a comeback to Let's Go you could possible imagine. KMD finished it with that one, LL said it himself... I had to go ask my momma what to do next. Momma should have said, "Shut your damn mouth, son, you're in over your head!!"
StrategyFiend 4 months ago 2
That's true LL didn't get a high school diploma
King6ft1 4 months ago
Kool Moe Dee doesnt study the dictionary the dictionary studies Kool Moe Dee!!!!
Bl00dm0ney136 5 months ago 35
@Bl00dm0ney136
amen, brotha . . . amen. could NOT agree with you more
awakeatnight1 4 months ago 3
kool moe dee merked him in every catagory this wasnt even close moe dee wins easy
Bl00dm0ney136 5 months ago 7
lyrically this was the best battle to me LL was the only man that could beat moe dee
boahplayer 5 months ago
this guy is genioius
Bl00dm0ney136 5 months ago 13
@Bl00dm0ney136 You're clearly not a "genius".
Viktir666 3 months ago
FUCKIN WITHE THE KING ? NO ! HELL NO! LL IS A KING !
iraklaaaa 5 months ago
@iraklaaaa What?????
KingMellow11 4 months ago
This fool just fuqd l's shit up!!!!!!!! L aint neva won a battle lyricly.. Garbagiest Of All Time!! New word there... LOL
styles950 5 months ago 5
3:40 Moe killed it
freddydred 5 months ago
Sliced and Diced for sure.......no disrespect. (To the other party)
jakogelo 5 months ago
kool moe dee and ll cool j for life. ll cool j was more of a flashy rapper despite being one of the first to not have a shirt on lol, both respect for dee and cool j.
billslover90 5 months ago
Man ... LL killed KMD hands down! Man, yall better listen to Mama Said Knock You Out again!
Chukenweebop 5 months ago
Lyricism - Moe Dee
Cadence - Moe Dee
Punches - Moe Dee
Sex appeal - LL
Winner - Moe Dee, this isn't even a fair battle. Nelly '84 never won a battle. Oh, yah, he called out Ice T(weak).
PhenomAJ 5 months ago 9
@PhenomAJ Just 9 years back,they even said Nelly won a battle against KRS One. I didn't even bother to buy that one. Just like I wouldn't buy it if someone says that clown won against Moe Dee.
oldschoolbx1970 4 months ago
@PhenomAJ
What a great way of putting it, LL lost because he is not a lyricist, his is a fame whore who is still around and it's all good. But put him live on mic against KMD.... his ANNIHILATION IS ASSURED!
curtisb3000 3 months ago
@curtisb3000 i dissagree with you. but kmd was better with lyrics. but ll was nice too. specially in the beginning
Funkdogg 3 months ago
@Funkdogg
We are talking about lyric for lyric, metaphor for metaphor, punch line for punch line, KMD WINS! Swagger and everything else LL wins!
curtisb3000 3 months ago
@curtisb3000 yeah kmd wins when it comes to rhymes. i just mean that ll also came with some classic lyrics. i never was a cool j fan but i remember when he came hard on epmd's record. it was fire
Funkdogg 3 months ago
@Funkdogg
LL has some of most classic songs in Hip Hop period and he represents the school which KMD is from so as long as LL is around KMD still lives. Without LL who would know KMD except for the hardcore?
My top 3 LL jams:
1. Going back to Cali!
2. Mama said knock you out
3. I'm that type of guy
curtisb3000 3 months ago
@curtisb3000 kool mo dee been doing it even before i was born and i'm 30 years old now. but i like to check out history. my favorite ll joint might be.
1. can't live without my radio
2.i'm that type of guy
3.loungin. (remix with total)
Funkdogg 3 months ago
This is real hip hop, kids now dont know good rap with all this shit thats out there now.
SXNitro 5 months ago 2
That's a smooth azz suit. Still to this day.
Boogers4dinner 5 months ago 2
call it what u want 'hype' etc..but L L took his style to the next level, Mo Dee faded away in the background.
tuffty69 6 months ago
To be honest I thought he came better on this one then How ya like me now.
billyripp 6 months ago
I lived old school i am old school , im 41 and grew up listening to this , but in my personal oppinion LL beat KMD on many levels..
tuffty69 6 months ago 3
@tuffty69
Yes LL beats him on hype level but LL is not lyrically up to par with Kool Moe Dee and the truth is very few are!
curtisb3000 6 months ago 3
I wonder how LL feels about KMD now haha.. last time I heard KMD was in that Britney Spears flick Crosswords.. ut still I praise both LL and KMD
abSOULuteD 6 months ago
so RIP...Rest In Peace...Ripped Him...D.I.D... Dead InDeed...Did Em... Kool Moe Dee...one of the Top 5 Lyricists in the History Of Hip Hop Music...
SwaggaLeo 6 months ago
Man ll was the mutha fffin man, but he lost two great battles Kool Moe Dee and then Canibus. he did this to LL twice. despite all the scuccess these will always be battles that may never mean much in the fast food music world. but to those who understand and love mcing with a passion, this is a golden example of mcing on a higher level. respect to oboth tho ll and moe dee are both legends.
VersatyleTV1 6 months ago
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KmacSteazyD 6 months ago
The video is great, the lyrics are OUTSTANDING! "jingling hos", and LL's playing with a see n' say...remember those!!
EatinCactus 6 months ago
He sounds like someones pissed off Grandpa
ssean1290 6 months ago
KMD Cant Rock The Bells
Drxggy 6 months ago
@Drxggy L.L. can't knock no one out
KingMellow11 2 months ago
Fair enough, LL went on to success, but that means nothing. Both entertained fans with a battle that showed they were equal in skills. Nowadays, there's a disgusting trend of trying to avoid battles so as not to burn bridges. See: All Jay-Z's moves over the past 5 years, and Eminem's non-dissing of Kanye and Wayne. I'm not an old-school snob at all but battling appears to have been killed off by hip-hop's realization of its own pop potential. Which means the fans lose out.
DoTheMathOne 6 months ago
@DoTheMathOne Goodness You straight up summed it up. This is what made it so tight.
wilnout6453 6 months ago
last I knew even after this LL was still around and KMD... wasn't.
XJadynX 7 months ago
Destroyed
DawgcityClev 7 months ago
im only 18 and i will listen to this before i listen to anything thats out today.
1drosefan 7 months ago
Sorry but LL won this battle
amensupremera 7 months ago
@amensupremera - nah LL admitted moe dee was the only one he could not finish.
beatmakersuniversity 7 months ago
@beatmakersuniversity he didn't lyrically get with Cannibus either.
DawgcityClev 7 months ago
@DawgcityClev - canibus is/was doing 1985 ll he destroyed his career and has not been able to come back return of the jacker was canibus ether. why people keep acting like LL did not finish him is beyond me.
beatmakersuniversity 7 months ago
@beatmakersuniversity I didnt ask for your fanboy ass response. Cannibus ate LL alive. LL was and is apart of the faggotry that spreads throughout hollywood which is why they helped take Cannibus out of sight. Lyrically he destroyed LL. End of story.
DawgcityClev 7 months ago
@beatmakersuniversity thats just LL being humble, but the truth is LL career continued and Moe Dee's was over. Check the line in "I Shot Ya" "I crushed Hammer Ice T and Moe Dee's curl
amensupremera 7 months ago
@amensupremera LL only crushes ice-t in his dreams
ooiua135 7 months ago
@amensupremera -well no because when they were battling kmd was on jive records and he routinely went gold.that was the height of moe dees career/succes he never had a plaque before they battled.
beatmakersuniversity 7 months ago
@amensupremera LL' career only went on b/c he sold out and made all of those pop hits, but they were great songs. His career as lyrical MC was done along time player. Kool Mo Dee and Canibus both made sure of that
blaaket123 7 months ago
@blaaket123 Lets just disregard record sales(sarcasm intended) Canibus CD went double doo doo despite having one of the greatest diss tracks of all time. LL won that b/c he responded w/ The Ripper Returns(Can I Bus) and went platinum with GOAT and Canibus aint been relevant since. Rhymes of the month in the Source for 20 years. LL is a HipHop Icon can came through those battles unscathed. As far as rap battles when career are in the line LL and Cube are the best at diss tracks and longevity
amensupremera 6 months ago
@amensupremera Unscathed. Come on!!! Jay z and LL are both on same plan. Both guys who made hits, but got murded lyrical in battles. LL didn't come out unscathed. Any person that listened to those battles knows that LL lost and got exposed as a non lyrical MC. Kool Mo Dee killed him here. The last verse is sick and video just the icing on the cake.
blaaket123 6 months ago
@amensupremera Cypress Hill DESTROYED Cube. I was a HUGE Cube and Cypress fan.... and Cypress ETHERED Cube!
ReLZuNo 6 months ago
@ReLZuNo I couldnt pic a winner out of that one. They both kinda broke even on that one. I don't really remember anyhting outstanding about either sides diss tracks
amensupremera 6 months ago
@ReLZuNo man r u crazy Cube and westside connect messed ova them boyz kid!!!
hutman1738 6 months ago
@amensupremera how did he crush them let be real why the hell is ll dissing hammer kmd put the smash on ll and ice t was more real then ll
elt01606 6 months ago
@elt01606 and if they all released single tomarrow who would sell the most. LL Cool J.
amensupremera 6 months ago
rakimkoolgrapwutang 7 months ago
@rakimkoolgrapwutang He's saying random words that start with L.
cormegaful 7 months ago
@cormegaful but sum of it makes sense like low life loser and lusting longing lyrics like this
rakimkoolgrapwutang 7 months ago
wat is kmd tryin 2 say wen he uses dat alliteration of l. i dont have a clue. i tried lookin up sum of da words in da dictionary but wat does lafidisical and luna mean. wats a lispless luna
rakimkoolgrapwutang 7 months ago
@rakimkoolgrapwutang it's just word play kmd was showing how good he was
elt01606 6 months ago
lol i actually think this is betta than canibuss diss 2 ll cool j
rakimkoolgrapwutang 7 months ago
one good thing about this beff it did'nt get violent but both men had there jabs at each other L L cool j is still around but i think kool moe dee won this battle..
crazyj4567 7 months ago
ll is a legend made 1 of the best albums ever is a true great so stop hatingi dont like his new stuff either but mama said knock u out is a classicalbum
dom123435 7 months ago
moe dee and LL WAS SUPPOSE TO BATTLE AT THE APOLLO ONE YEAR BACK IN THE DAY, L DIDNT SHOW UP. . .THEN HE CRUCIFIED LL ON THIS SONG CALLED LETS GO, I MEAN HE JUST DESTROYED L. . AND I THINK L IS DEFINITELY TOP 5 RAPPER ALL TIME CHECK [ ORIGINAL ROCK THE BELLS ] AND WHEN YOU CHECK THAT SONG KEEP IN MIND LL WAS 17 AND REALLY KILLIN THE SONG BUT HE DIDNT WANT NO PARTS OF MOE DEE ON THE BATTLES.
thbeam1 7 months ago
moe d knocked him out w/ the video! +the rhyme was hittin]lLL had to battle 2 rappers at the same time =ice t&moe d] iguess becauseLLwas at the top
5annent 7 months ago
Nah.. LL murdered him.. lyrical styles were changing at the time LL dropped "To the Break A Dawn", but Moe Dee was still stuck in that old 1985 rap flow.. He didn't evolve with the times..
Alkebulan32 7 months ago
@Alkebulan32 Naw, LL sounds like the slow ass bitch with boring ass beats that never evolved. Kool Moe Dee uses some James Brown samples but it's LL's beats that sound whack, simple, and uninspired! Kool won the battle in spite of the LL hype machine.
gptvproductions 7 months ago
LL IS MUCH BETTER
xhoni123456 7 months ago
Yo tellem how you fell L......Hard as Hell!!! Moe Dee won this battle Lyrically. L L won the popularity contest.
hijkl12 7 months ago 25
@hijkl12 HELL YEAH!
Everyone only thinks LL won cause he spent way more on PR. All hype, less skill.
Kool Moe Dee beats em all!
And Kool has a sense of humor. LL is too concerned about trying to look hard. That's the sign of an insecure dude.
LL was overcompensating cause he saw his future as a lame ass, sell out, sitcom actor.
Kool Moe Dee goes to work! LL Cool Whip can go to Hell!
gptvproductions 7 months ago
@gptvproductions I couldn't have said it better pimp.
hijkl12 7 months ago
@hijkl12 Well said.
AZASN8SHUN 7 months ago
@hijkl12 Making a bunch of words rime doesn't mean you win.
thecrosby627 4 months ago
@thecrosby627 I couldn't agree with you more.....thats why I said LL lost this battle lyrically. Thanks for reiterating my point.
hijkl12 4 months ago
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lawplanet12 4 months ago
FOR THOSE WHO KNOW REAL HIP-HOP, LL's "I Be Getting Busy" is the song that ended Kool Moe Dee's career..YOU CAN FIND IT HERE ON YOU TUBE AND HEAR HOW LL MURDERED MOE DEE !! everyone who knows hip-hop knows the battle rules....IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL ONE STOPS RESPONDING SIGNALING THE FACT THAT THEY HAD NOTHING FOR THE LAST DART THROWN ! Kool Moe Dee NEVER responded back to this song & as a result, he fell off ! if he won all these battles, then he shoulda been able to stand & keep movin
lawplanet12 4 months ago
@lawplanet12 If we can't find the song then it never happen pimp. upload the song so we can hear it. chances are LL didn't write the lyrics. he didn't start writing until later in his career. do your research pimp.
hijkl12 4 months ago
@hijkl12 it;s all over you tube...they won't let me post the link but just type in the song & sorry but LL did INDEED write his lyrics
lawplanet12 3 months ago
@lawplanet12 I found the song you were referring to......the only problem I have with that track is, it's hard to figure out who LL is talking about. The 1st and last part of the song could have been about Moe D but LL beats around the bush wich leads me to believe he didn't write it..... It's no secret who Moe D is talking about in his tracks. Like I said earlier, LL can perform and act......Moe D. can challenge you on paper. No contest on who's the better Lyricist.
hijkl12 3 months ago
@lawplanet12 "I B GETTING BUSY"--FROM MARLEY MARL VOL.2---
C'MON---THAT SONG HAD NOTHING 2 DO WITH KOOL MOE DEE
WALTERTISDALE 3 months ago
@WALTERTISDALE yes it did !!! listen to verse 3 as well as LL told me this when I met him ! and either way, LL was way too advanced lyrically by then...when "Death Blow" came out, niggas in my hood was laughing...I can't lie...."Death Blow" was a lot stronger than "Let's Go" but he just came off looking like an old school bitter rap artist who knew that his time was up...Kool Moe Dee was the past whereas LL proved that he was meant to have longer life in the music biz
lawplanet12 3 months ago
@lawplanet12
KOOL MOE DEE-VS-LL COOL J
I DID THE RESEARCH AND PPL JUST ,ACTED LIKE KIDS IN SCHOOL AFRAID 2 FORM THEIR OWN OPINION
IM A DIE HARD FAN OF BOTH,BUT LL HAS PROVE THAT HE CAN/HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME. WITH ALL THESE "LIL' YOUNG" RAPPERS OUT HERE --KMD DID NOT COME OFF LIKE A OLD BITTER MAN,ONLY THOSE WHO R FANS OF LL REALLY BELIVE THAT AND SOME DONT WANT 2 ADMIT THAT EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN SQUASHED A LONG TIME AGO--RAPMAINA--ITS JUST LL WAS MORE POPULAR AND PPL DIDNT/WONT
WALTERTISDALE 3 months ago
@WALTERTISDALE in a rap BATTLE, nobody wants to be educated and nobody cares if you have a High School Diploma...it's about wit & skill versatility, LL made a mockery of KMD especially with that Star Trek shades line...us young kids were studying the lyrics & what was being said which is why i say once again because i remember the word on the street..NIGGAS LAUGHED AT KMD..it had nothing to do with Popularity because if it did, then KMD should've really won because he was already very popular
lawplanet12 3 months ago
@WALTERTISDALE & that's not saying nothing against KMD because he is one of thee GREATEST MC's of all-time but them old school rhymes & wack ass ALREADY DONE James Brown beats wasn't strong enough to go against songs like "Droppin Em", "Why Do You Think They Call It Dope", "Murdergram", "Crime Story", "It Gets No Rougher", "Def Jam In The Motherland" which was the songs that showcase the best of LL's LYRICAL VERSATILE SKILL....no love songs or mainstream shit..straight rhymes..do your research
lawplanet12 3 months ago
@lawplanet12 Sorry,but that came out before death blow. Moe Wins!!
KingMellow11 2 months ago
Everybody know who LL bit his style from!!!!
Bluessnooze 7 months ago
Kool Moe Dee an Original.
mackdanny170 7 months ago
i think kurtis blow was best and original aha
thekavestation 7 months ago
@thekavestation Yo, Blow was Wack. I know, I was there.
mackdanny170 7 months ago
So Dope, LL can rap but Kool Moe Dee blows him out of the water every time!
gptvproductions 7 months ago
y u know liek LL Cuel Jay?
mxcncarebear 7 months ago in playlist you got dissed
The 25 dislikes are still wearing played out four finger rings
lilze96 8 months ago 2
@lilze96 since when did 4 finger rings get played out??? that shits classic never goes out of style like an old coupe...
trufiend138 7 months ago
"Tell'em how you fell L, HARD AS HELL", lmao
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