31 12 11г Ф.В.Емельяненко в очередной раз показал и доказал,что такое Самбо!
А в 1961г. помнится один японский судья умер на татами от разрыва сердца,когда в матчевой встрече русские самбисты порвали японских дзюдоистов.Герой той встречи - Степанов!
50% the Martial Art and 50% the Discipline from the Practitioner. If you pass 5 years learning a fake martial art is almost sure you lose fighting a 1 year practitioner from a good school.
Seriously some guys in my bjj class don't even know wha exactly Judo is and find that really arrogant and weird. I've even heard the coach ( a recent black belt) to say staff like " yeah that's the mistake the judokas do and I go like crazy. BJJ came out of judo newaza and all the new MMA fans seem to ignore that.
@gioelio i think bjj and judo should be taught together for more balance between getting the fight to the ground and being on the ground. one really isn't better than the other and i find it appalling that a lot of people in the grappling community seem to be talking shit about other styles.
@gioelio BJJ DID NOT come out of Judo as you put it. BJJ is a deritive of Fusen Ryu Jiu Jitsu which was an isolated form of Traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu which specialized in ground attacks(Newaza) incase a weapon was lost or the warrior was knocked to the floor. This type of Jiu Jitsu was the only style to defeat the Kodokan at a challenge refered to the Kodokan challenge by the founder of Judo, Jigoro Kano.
@19thaman79 Actually I have never heard of this explanation before. So you are saying that there was a martial art called Fusen Ryu Jiu Jitsu wich was different from Kano's Judo? Interesting. Could you please share your sources on that?
@gioelio The particular style of Judo viewed in this vidoe is Kosen Judo which is much more like modern BJJ hence the time aloud to use Newaza which is limited by modern Judo rules.
@MegaHitman666 Judo and Bjj are the same. I take both, its just that judo focus more on throws and Bjj focus on the ground. Name me one move in Bjj thats not in judo.
BJJ was created when Judo/Jiu Jitsu practitioner from Japan, Jigoro Kano, went to Brazil and taught Judo/JJ to Helio Gracie. BJJ is the most modern form of Judo/JJ. Otherqise Japan would call their oldest fighting art, Japanese Jiu Jitsu and Brazil would call it Jiu Jitsu. BJJ is just a different style of JJ. Much like there are many differences between Europeans and americans and Japanese in International Judo Competition. They all have a specific style.
@cptafw how can u say the sambo guy neutralized all judo techniques first of all komura didnt do any major throws besides uchimata why?? because the sambo guy was leaning forward bad posture always wanting to fight on the ground because lets be honest in stand up fighting the most effective martial arts has to be judo its the most practical in everyday situations
@alphie10 I am a wrestler and a judoka (white belt). I just went to a Judo tournament and entered the advanced (brown/black) division and the novice div. I subbed and pinned my way to win the advanced division and went against a BJJ guy in the novice division finals, beating him with a wazari. It was pretty much my wrestling that won me that tournament. IMHO Wrestling is better than judo for takedowns. I do love judo, a lot, but the rules limit the "fight" (no ippon to stop fight)
@cptafw first of all u went to wat they call an "open competetion" try going to a country competition or a club competetion u will find very good judokas and u will be telling me a diferent story u cant say that after only going to one open competetion
@cptafw may I asked were you competed ? because as far I know white belts don't compete in advanced brown and black even in a open tourney ? whites >blues and greens are novice we may get a brown or black that will cross over if the tourney is small but they never put the novice with the advanced, you even have to state your rank when you REG and have your Instructor sign a non black belt cert USA JUDO RULES.
@cptafw and your still white belt and if u won most r fights becaz of ur wrestling i wuld imagine u wer just going to take downs everytime and once on the ground the ref calls matte in a real good comp u wuld be penalized for that and bjj and judo are pretty much brothers a good judoka can take on any bjjer as komuro just demonstrated
@MegaHitman666 The Judo guy uses Judo techniques. Sambo guy has strong standing defense. Remember that Sambo has its roots in Judo as well. In a match between Judo and Sambo, if both are strong you hardly would see one throwing the other easily.
@alphie10 That is right, Judo is not superior to Sambo in stand up techniques. I would as a Judoka that Sambo stand up techniques are as good or even better (in some cases) than Judo techniques. Sambo also have strong ground work but the emphasis is very different to what we see in both Judo and BJJ.
@kappanisan all the sambo takedowns or throws are taken from judo so how can u say some sambo techniques are better than judo its just most of the techniques in sambo are the ones the IJF(international Judo federation) banned from judo comps etc.i.e the scissor takedown used in sambo...used to be in judo but thats illegal now if u do that u'll get disqualified or hansoko make
@alphie10 That is why I say that in some cases Sambo throws are better. I don't like the new Judo rules. And rules are for competition but in Randori you can use all the Judo techniques you want (without hurting your partner, off course). I can not believe that now you can not grab or attack the legs, that is no sense. So, to say it in a different way, I think that the Sambo rules set may be better than the Judo rule set, talking about throws.
@kappanisan U cant attack the legs with ur hands so throws like kata guruma got banned but people found a way of still doing kata guruma without holding the leg but one thing they alow is u can grab the leg as long as it is for defense so if the other opponent attacks u with a leg throw for example u can block by grabbing the legs.only attacking the legs directly is banned wich tbhi think is pretty stupid u cant take away the essence of martial art i mean they say its for safety purposes
@MegaHitman666 dont be stupid u clearly dont do martial arts or if u do ur a disgrace if u dont know the history...BJJ techniques are all the same in judo just the gracies made few modifications to the techniques so the way a Bjj guy applies them look slighty diferent than the judokas way however any good judoka wo focuses on tachi waza and newaza can give a BJJ guy a hard fight when standing up the bjj guy has no chance their posture is very bad and makes it easy for the judoka to throw.
Sambo is really effective, so don't think like "it's not so strong". There are also differences in Sambo and Judo. Sambo doesn't need too much rules [Kinda like BJJ]. But Judo does, i mean, once 1 fighter throws the other fighter to the ground, they just score points. But that doesn't mean i don't like Judo or anything. Judo is one of my faves. Anyway, Another difference is that Sambo has a small amount of strikes. But i'm not so sure if Judo does. So yeah.
@OVERCAPITALIZE All Sport-Martial Arts are weak in fighting other arts. Olympic Taekwondo,Olympic Judo, and other arts. The only good Art even if its Olympic is Wrestling. but i don't know much but yeah.
@OVERCAPITALIZE That is absolutely NOT what i said. I meant, each art has a style, Let me give you an example what Judo is like, let's say Taekwondo, there are lots of styles. 1. Olympic Taekwondo [Which only effects in olympics] 2. Self Defense Taekwondo [Which is in the streets] 3. Tricks Taekwondo [For Stuntmen/women] 4. Traditional/Classic Taekwondo [Strongest style]. All of those styles are the same with Judo exept the tricks one. If you didnt get what i said. Let me reply to you later.
@OVERCAPITALIZE Let me try to make this properly. I meant, the art doesn't matter but the fighter himself/herself. It's about the fighter's skills and weaknesses. Also, what i was saying about the olympic arts thing, is that the ORIGINAL Version of that Particular art is BETTER then the Olympic version, and i never said Taekwondo is better. I was just setting it as an example. Yes, olympic version is weak if you use it to fight other arts.
@OVERCAPITALIZE Dude, i just started studying the physics of Martial Arts. Don't ask me so much, i'm not a Judo master you know. And it's about both Fighter and Art and including the Traditional way. You're just talking as if it's an argument. How about this, will you prefer to do the sport style instead of traditional? Sports Judo mostly need to score points. While Traditional Judo was studied by the Legendary Samurai Troops. Don't get me wrong, Olympic Judo is great too.
If it was a Russian who trained in Russia, Sambo would win no question about it. I love Judo and Sambo but Sambo is better because it doesn't rely on the gi and it's more effective for a fight.
@OVERCAPITALIZE Thats not biased. Thats true. Sambo is mor effective from the technique to the actual fighting style. Sambo is the "impoved" and harder version of Judo. but both are great fighting arts.
Why is there a rivalry.....Brazilian jujitsu is Judo and not Jujitsu. Its lineage is Mitsuyo Maeda who was a top black belt under Judo's founder Jigaro Kano. There might be some confusion over the word but traditionally Jujitsu focuses more on lethal type techniques and striking. Brazilian jujitsu and Russian sambo have Judo roots...
Sambo is actually much better. The techinque is better and its more effective. My father does both but in Russia and while he was in the Russian army they though Sambo because it was actually better for a fight. Judo is better for toruments but in a real fight Sambo wins.
@judopathoftruth Well he's the top Sambo practitioner. He would probably win haha he would end up ripping the guys arm off if he tries an arm lock on him
@ace24680 It's called Daki age, and it's a powerfull slam throw in which you break your oponent's guard by knocking air out of his lung and i couldn't agree more...
@poisondripingsword Thank you i just look at a few demo of it, man i c y he did not use it, it looks painful if done right so if done wrong i can imagine the damage
I'm a black belt in judo and I think sambo is more practical. There are no disciplines vs disciplines , only people vs people. And btw both of them are japanese , it wast a russian sambo guy vs japanese judoka ...
It looked like the Judo guy showed more control and threw the Sambo guy. Judo won because he controlled his opponent more. If it turned into MMA fight the Sambo guy would have more advantage. Not to say Judo doesn't incorporate strikes. But Sambo would be more into the area of Strike and grappling combos.
@Sanguinius93446 yeah, sabo rocks just cuz of fedor????, judo sucks???? can't u see all those bjj guys, dats emphasized newaza, if u gonna talk bout these stuff u gotta be a bit informed
@Sanguinius93446 most if not all those u refered have background in judo, and sambo is a mix of judo and wrestling, are u gonna tell me wrestling is the best of the world cuz most guys in ufc are wrestlers???
@MakeLadiesHappy nope,fedor did compete in judo,but his technique is sambo,you're right,sambo was made by judo practicioner,but it's technique is different than judo,they have different stance,different takedowns submissions .....and wrestling is much better than judo for MMA because judo is adapted for kimono,and has too many unrealistic rules.
@Sanguinius93446 lol, fedor got judo, better sambo but still got judo, and ok sambo diferent than judo, but are you sure that wrestling is better, and that judo is unrealistic???? wrestling is very easy the first time u trained with a wrestler i won using judo, and without getting taken down, wrestlers got lots of conditioning, dats why, and i repeat, that bbj is judo, plz check the history of bjj at it all, plz, check it out and tell me if bjj is not judo
@MakeLadiesHappy judo is very good,but it's not good at MMA because there are no gi in MMA.Most of judo techniques are made for gi.and BJJ isn't judo,judo was made out of JIU-JITSU not BRAZILIAN JIU-JITSU.
@Sanguinius93446 dude, bjj was made out of judo, dats wut i mean, its like emphasized newaza judo, and judo is efective in mma, u don't need a judogi, and bjj is just famous at mma, cuz of marketing, dat made most people train it, bjj uses the same that judo just emphasizes newaza
they weren't created at the same time lol, sambo is a relatively modern discipline that was founded by a russian judo practitioner which he based off of judo.
@haggiss Kano Jigoro sent his student s around the world to spread the art of Judo or Kano Jiu Jitsu as it was called back then. Sambo, Judo and BJJ all have similiar techniques but specialize in different areas.
@19thaman79 they have similar techniques because they all come from judo. except judo, judo is judo. it comes from jiu jitsu. but not brazilian, japanese. this was a horrible comment but i'll post anyways.
You`re completely wrong in your statement. Judo does have almost all the leg locks present in Sambo. The difference is that in Sambo you train them more.
Judo does have leg locks, they are simply not allowed in competition (very high risk of injuries). Thus a lot of Judo clubs dont pratice them extensivly or even bother teaching them.
Same goes for wrist lock and other small articulations dangerous locks
@billysue2 don't know what you mean by sparring, do you mean randori? anyway, leglocks are essential if you want to get your 3rd Dan by doing ashi-garami in katame no kata.
@SJMRMT1542 it has evrything to do with your last comment,you said theres a leglock in kata,I said if the lock isnt allowed in randori then its useless.Karate has grappling in its kata but they cannot grapple because they dont spar with it.Kata is dead training,useless for combat
@billysue2 Really I belong to a judo club that allows leg locks ,neck cranks etc.. in fact other clubs I have visited in IL allow pretty much everything that Judo tourney's don't in Randori
@glock70 they arent part of the ijf then ,leg locks have been out of kodokan judo since the 50s,same with neck cranks.Some judo schools that dont compete much in official comps will vary from the syllabus.
@scarred10 actually all the Dojo's I visit are all USA JUDO memebers myself included leg locks are still taught as well as neck cranks I still apply neck cracks as well as chin cranks in Randori all the clubs I visit are tourney clubs that practice Judo as a whole not just throws some are crossed trained with Jitz some are just Judo clubs but they stay true to Kansetsu waza and still practice knee,ankle,wrist & locks of course these locks are not allowed in tourney but are still needed.
I agree with judopathoftrue, plus a huge difference between both arts it that in judo you have 3 to 5 seconds to actually do something and extend the time you do newaza then if in 30 seconds you haven't got the submission you have to start again in tachiwaza. BJJ is focus only in newaza so you can spend up to 10 min or more until finally someone gets the submission.
Can you read or are you just looking for an argument? I said that shoulder and arm triangles rarely finish, I did not say judokas could not finish. I don't know about you but I prefer the armbar and rear naked to shoulder locks as the opponent can easily reverse and or improve his position.
i prefer the shoulder locks myself, i've had more success with these than i have with rear naked choke though i agree with you in that the arm bar remains one of my faves also. i'm gonna guess you're BJJ man?
Yep , been training for about four years now. So you really have had more success with the shoulder locks in competition? Which one, omoplata (ude-garami in Judo)?
yes thats precisely the one although the rear naked has brought some success. trained BJJ myself a few years ago then made the switch to benefit my stand up game after getting "judo'd out" by some visiting judo students.
LOL sounds like you took a ride on the Uchimata express. I have not cross trained with Judo guys but I have been hip tossed by Samboist, and it is not fun. The good thing about hip tosses is that they usually leave you in half guard or your opponent in side control and thus not a horrible position.
31 12 11г Ф.В.Емельяненко в очередной раз показал и доказал,что такое Самбо!
А в 1961г. помнится один японский судья умер на татами от разрыва сердца,когда в матчевой встрече русские самбисты порвали японских дзюдоистов.Герой той встречи - Степанов!
Pycak100 1 month ago
Is there any technique differentiation between bjj judo and sambo? Or is it the same, but from different country?
Krisnadhuaja 1 month ago
50% the Martial Art and 50% the Discipline from the Practitioner. If you pass 5 years learning a fake martial art is almost sure you lose fighting a 1 year practitioner from a good school.
robertvoice 2 months ago
the throw at 6:08 is beautiful
teslic100 2 months ago
Seriously some guys in my bjj class don't even know wha exactly Judo is and find that really arrogant and weird. I've even heard the coach ( a recent black belt) to say staff like " yeah that's the mistake the judokas do and I go like crazy. BJJ came out of judo newaza and all the new MMA fans seem to ignore that.
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@gioelio i think bjj and judo should be taught together for more balance between getting the fight to the ground and being on the ground. one really isn't better than the other and i find it appalling that a lot of people in the grappling community seem to be talking shit about other styles.
ihavetheherpes 1 month ago
@gioelio BJJ DID NOT come out of Judo as you put it. BJJ is a deritive of Fusen Ryu Jiu Jitsu which was an isolated form of Traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu which specialized in ground attacks(Newaza) incase a weapon was lost or the warrior was knocked to the floor. This type of Jiu Jitsu was the only style to defeat the Kodokan at a challenge refered to the Kodokan challenge by the founder of Judo, Jigoro Kano.
19thaman79 1 week ago
@19thaman79 Actually I have never heard of this explanation before. So you are saying that there was a martial art called Fusen Ryu Jiu Jitsu wich was different from Kano's Judo? Interesting. Could you please share your sources on that?
gioelio 1 week ago
@gioelio Various different books about telling the origins of Judo and Google The history of Judo.
19thaman79 1 week ago
@gioelio The particular style of Judo viewed in this vidoe is Kosen Judo which is much more like modern BJJ hence the time aloud to use Newaza which is limited by modern Judo rules.
19thaman79 1 week ago
yeah judo...
momo200090 2 months ago
I us A LOT of BJJ and called it JUDO!!! WHAT a BUNCH!
MegaHitman666 6 months ago
The JUDO guy uses technics BORROWED from BRASILIAN JIUJITSU!
He is NOT SUCCESFUL in STAND UP against the SAMBIST!
The SAMBO guy ,with his stance , NEUTRALISED all "JUDO Throwing technics"!
SAMBO the BESSST!!!! SAMBO allways WIN!!!!
MegaHitman666 6 months ago
@MegaHitman666 Judo and Bjj are the same. I take both, its just that judo focus more on throws and Bjj focus on the ground. Name me one move in Bjj thats not in judo.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago 2
@MegaHitman666 Judo has both ground and standing technique. It is modified to stand up technique for national competition.
ob2plano 5 months ago
@MegaHitman666
BJJ was created when Judo/Jiu Jitsu practitioner from Japan, Jigoro Kano, went to Brazil and taught Judo/JJ to Helio Gracie. BJJ is the most modern form of Judo/JJ. Otherqise Japan would call their oldest fighting art, Japanese Jiu Jitsu and Brazil would call it Jiu Jitsu. BJJ is just a different style of JJ. Much like there are many differences between Europeans and americans and Japanese in International Judo Competition. They all have a specific style.
cptafw 5 months ago
@cptafw ,The Root of BJJ is KORYU JIUJITSU ,Founded by MATAEMON!
One of The Judo practitioner by the name of MAEDA,went to BRASIL and Thought the art to CARLOS GRACIE...
JIGORO KANO never encounter any GRACIE!!! And Positions you see in BJJ is UNIQUE!
This sayed,it would be nice to see the JUDO champion in STAND UP grappling vs SAMBO.
MegaHitman666 5 months ago
@cptafw how can u say the sambo guy neutralized all judo techniques first of all komura didnt do any major throws besides uchimata why?? because the sambo guy was leaning forward bad posture always wanting to fight on the ground because lets be honest in stand up fighting the most effective martial arts has to be judo its the most practical in everyday situations
alphie10 5 months ago
@alphie10 I am a wrestler and a judoka (white belt). I just went to a Judo tournament and entered the advanced (brown/black) division and the novice div. I subbed and pinned my way to win the advanced division and went against a BJJ guy in the novice division finals, beating him with a wazari. It was pretty much my wrestling that won me that tournament. IMHO Wrestling is better than judo for takedowns. I do love judo, a lot, but the rules limit the "fight" (no ippon to stop fight)
cptafw 5 months ago
@cptafw first of all u went to wat they call an "open competetion" try going to a country competition or a club competetion u will find very good judokas and u will be telling me a diferent story u cant say that after only going to one open competetion
alphie10 5 months ago
@cptafw may I asked were you competed ? because as far I know white belts don't compete in advanced brown and black even in a open tourney ? whites >blues and greens are novice we may get a brown or black that will cross over if the tourney is small but they never put the novice with the advanced, you even have to state your rank when you REG and have your Instructor sign a non black belt cert USA JUDO RULES.
glock70 2 months ago
@alphie10 Also, I never said that, hitman said that.
cptafw 5 months ago
@cptafw and your still white belt and if u won most r fights becaz of ur wrestling i wuld imagine u wer just going to take downs everytime and once on the ground the ref calls matte in a real good comp u wuld be penalized for that and bjj and judo are pretty much brothers a good judoka can take on any bjjer as komuro just demonstrated
alphie10 5 months ago
@MegaHitman666 The Judo guy uses Judo techniques. Sambo guy has strong standing defense. Remember that Sambo has its roots in Judo as well. In a match between Judo and Sambo, if both are strong you hardly would see one throwing the other easily.
kappanisan 5 months ago
@kappanisan no judo superior than sambo in stand up techniques the sambo guy has a bad bjj posture always wanting to go to ground
alphie10 5 months ago
@alphie10 That is right, Judo is not superior to Sambo in stand up techniques. I would as a Judoka that Sambo stand up techniques are as good or even better (in some cases) than Judo techniques. Sambo also have strong ground work but the emphasis is very different to what we see in both Judo and BJJ.
kappanisan 5 months ago
@kappanisan all the sambo takedowns or throws are taken from judo so how can u say some sambo techniques are better than judo its just most of the techniques in sambo are the ones the IJF(international Judo federation) banned from judo comps etc.i.e the scissor takedown used in sambo...used to be in judo but thats illegal now if u do that u'll get disqualified or hansoko make
alphie10 5 months ago
@alphie10 That is why I say that in some cases Sambo throws are better. I don't like the new Judo rules. And rules are for competition but in Randori you can use all the Judo techniques you want (without hurting your partner, off course). I can not believe that now you can not grab or attack the legs, that is no sense. So, to say it in a different way, I think that the Sambo rules set may be better than the Judo rule set, talking about throws.
kappanisan 5 months ago
@kappanisan U cant attack the legs with ur hands so throws like kata guruma got banned but people found a way of still doing kata guruma without holding the leg but one thing they alow is u can grab the leg as long as it is for defense so if the other opponent attacks u with a leg throw for example u can block by grabbing the legs.only attacking the legs directly is banned wich tbhi think is pretty stupid u cant take away the essence of martial art i mean they say its for safety purposes
alphie10 5 months ago
@MegaHitman666 dont be stupid u clearly dont do martial arts or if u do ur a disgrace if u dont know the history...BJJ techniques are all the same in judo just the gracies made few modifications to the techniques so the way a Bjj guy applies them look slighty diferent than the judokas way however any good judoka wo focuses on tachi waza and newaza can give a BJJ guy a hard fight when standing up the bjj guy has no chance their posture is very bad and makes it easy for the judoka to throw.
alphie10 5 months ago
Sambo is really effective, so don't think like "it's not so strong". There are also differences in Sambo and Judo. Sambo doesn't need too much rules [Kinda like BJJ]. But Judo does, i mean, once 1 fighter throws the other fighter to the ground, they just score points. But that doesn't mean i don't like Judo or anything. Judo is one of my faves. Anyway, Another difference is that Sambo has a small amount of strikes. But i'm not so sure if Judo does. So yeah.
ymk19 7 months ago
@ymk19
Don't blame it on Judo. Blame it on International Judo Federation.
And stop going by Sport Judo.
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE All Sport-Martial Arts are weak in fighting other arts. Olympic Taekwondo,Olympic Judo, and other arts. The only good Art even if its Olympic is Wrestling. but i don't know much but yeah.
ymk19 6 months ago
@ymk19
I think your wrong here.. Judo (Which is wrestling..) works perfectly fine on the streets if your just talking about that..
Since your saying Sport Martial arts is weak so that means MMA is weak too right?
I know you said you don't know much, but the stuff your saying is... dumb.
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE That is absolutely NOT what i said. I meant, each art has a style, Let me give you an example what Judo is like, let's say Taekwondo, there are lots of styles. 1. Olympic Taekwondo [Which only effects in olympics] 2. Self Defense Taekwondo [Which is in the streets] 3. Tricks Taekwondo [For Stuntmen/women] 4. Traditional/Classic Taekwondo [Strongest style]. All of those styles are the same with Judo exept the tricks one. If you didnt get what i said. Let me reply to you later.
ymk19 6 months ago
@ymk19
" All Sport-Martial Arts are weak in fighting other arts. Olympic Taekwondo,Olympic Judo, and other arts."
Sport or not, pretty lethal if you ask me. Especially judo compared to taekwondo.
I understand you now, but saying martial arts that have gone sport is weak?
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
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ymk19 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE Let me try to make this properly. I meant, the art doesn't matter but the fighter himself/herself. It's about the fighter's skills and weaknesses. Also, what i was saying about the olympic arts thing, is that the ORIGINAL Version of that Particular art is BETTER then the Olympic version, and i never said Taekwondo is better. I was just setting it as an example. Yes, olympic version is weak if you use it to fight other arts.
ymk19 6 months ago
@ymk19
"Yes, olympic version is weak if you use it to fight other arts."
I thought it was about the fighter and not the art? >_>
Most clubs are sport orientated, but they will still teach you those "banned" moves.
And where will find this "original version"?
The only traditional stuff i can find is "Kodokan Judo"
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE Dude, i just started studying the physics of Martial Arts. Don't ask me so much, i'm not a Judo master you know. And it's about both Fighter and Art and including the Traditional way. You're just talking as if it's an argument. How about this, will you prefer to do the sport style instead of traditional? Sports Judo mostly need to score points. While Traditional Judo was studied by the Legendary Samurai Troops. Don't get me wrong, Olympic Judo is great too.
ymk19 6 months ago
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OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE It's ok, it's just my opinion.
ymk19 6 months ago
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@ymk19 Was kinda treating it like an argument sorry.
But i just don't like how your "idea" is that traditional is always best and such.
All the techniques that still consider deadly (lol aren't all are?) are still there, and practicing.
You know what i mean? Instead of sticking to the classic method that does not work 100%. It's time to evolve.
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
If it was a Russian who trained in Russia, Sambo would win no question about it. I love Judo and Sambo but Sambo is better because it doesn't rely on the gi and it's more effective for a fight.
Japansepuppy2481 7 months ago
@Japansepuppy2481 ITS CALLED NO GI JUDO maybe you seen it in MMA
glock70 2 months ago
Sambo is anyway better and most worked than judo
sagohacheater 7 months ago
@sagohacheater
no ur biased. lets just say guns will always win.
OVERCAPITALIZE 7 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE Thats not biased. Thats true. Sambo is mor effective from the technique to the actual fighting style. Sambo is the "impoved" and harder version of Judo. but both are great fighting arts.
Japansepuppy2481 7 months ago
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OVERCAPITALIZE 7 months ago
u chi mata! ♥
TheHausvabot 8 months ago
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Why is there a rivalry.....Brazilian jujitsu is Judo and not Jujitsu. Its lineage is Mitsuyo Maeda who was a top black belt under Judo's founder Jigaro Kano. There might be some confusion over the word but traditionally Jujitsu focuses more on lethal type techniques and striking. Brazilian jujitsu and Russian sambo have Judo roots...
schaelakhan 8 months ago
Sambo and Judo can not be better or worse of each other - only fighters can be. So kind questions are senseless.
ignitabulum1 8 months ago 9
sambo anyway better
gianniswow 9 months ago
Sambo and Judo are the best on my opinion
TheRoxXar 9 months ago
were leglocks allowed in this match?
koji komuro is amazing
efsq 9 months ago
I love how Komlcoks corner are all in there Gi's haha
Judo forever.
judopathoftruth 9 months ago
Sambo is actually much better. The techinque is better and its more effective. My father does both but in Russia and while he was in the Russian army they though Sambo because it was actually better for a fight. Judo is better for toruments but in a real fight Sambo wins.
Japansepuppy2481 9 months ago
They should have put the Judo guy against Fedor!
novemberrain1994 10 months ago
@novemberrain1994 fedor does judo and sambo
judopathoftruth 9 months ago
@judopathoftruth Well he's the top Sambo practitioner. He would probably win haha he would end up ripping the guys arm off if he tries an arm lock on him
novemberrain1994 9 months ago
sambo were oficially created in 1938 with a collective of russian wrestlers!))
with russian judo wrestler and jiu-jitsu wrestler and a gimanst guy - Harlampiev who like to kick ass))
also in "combat sambo" they include boxing combinations of punches and kicks
combat sambo championship is almost same as mixfight- you wrestling and boxing to win..
SuperGoodman44 10 months ago
Judo the best! Bjj & sambo come from judo!
judorican973 11 months ago
is it not allowed to just lift him a slam him cause i c no other way if he is tied around you to break it ??????
ace24680 1 year ago
@ace24680 It's called Daki age, and it's a powerfull slam throw in which you break your oponent's guard by knocking air out of his lung and i couldn't agree more...
poisondripingsword 11 months ago
@poisondripingsword Thank you i just look at a few demo of it, man i c y he did not use it, it looks painful if done right so if done wrong i can imagine the damage
ace24680 11 months ago
I'm a black belt in judo and I think sambo is more practical. There are no disciplines vs disciplines , only people vs people. And btw both of them are japanese , it wast a russian sambo guy vs japanese judoka ...
RexBaselio 1 year ago
Japanese Judo is the father of both Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Russian Sambo
ArmyMPsoldier 1 year ago
@ArmyMPsoldier yes and japanese jiu jitsu is grande father
bjjjordan 1 year ago 2
@bjjjordan yes, and chinese shuai jiao is the great grand father
RacoonBurglar 1 year ago
@bjjjordan yes i mean i knw that cheiness are best fighters
bjjjordan 11 months ago
Judokas and Samboists shouldn't fight....we should combine our powers to create more Fedor Emelianenkos!
Polymorphidz 1 year ago 12
@Polymorphidz One of the best posts i've read on youtube.
killmonkey50h 3 months ago
Judo + Sambo = Fedor Emelianenko
vrata78 1 year ago 6
It looked like the Judo guy showed more control and threw the Sambo guy. Judo won because he controlled his opponent more. If it turned into MMA fight the Sambo guy would have more advantage. Not to say Judo doesn't incorporate strikes. But Sambo would be more into the area of Strike and grappling combos.
GabrielSerrano505 1 year ago
@GabrielSerrano505 no judo have gr8 throws then grond and pound
bjjjordan 1 year ago
Judo compliments Sambo and Sambo compliments Judo.
Train both and you're unstoppable!
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
when did this take place?
PriusRider 1 year ago
These guys are so good.
Azariah197 1 year ago
:O judo best¡¡
emelufo 1 year ago
JUDO rocks!!!
911411911411 1 year ago
Judo vs. Judo much?
samluke8121 1 year ago
Judo was ruined by competition
XxUnknownxX8 1 year ago
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judo sucks at mma,while sambo rocks.
Sanguinius93446 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446
Fedor Emelianenko studied both Sambo and Judo and he's currently ranked the best pound for pound fighter.
JuniorArtist27 1 year ago
@JuniorArtist27 A fighter doesn't win because of his martial art, its thanks to their own fighting skills, intelligence or instinct.
SJMRMT1542 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 yeah, sabo rocks just cuz of fedor????, judo sucks???? can't u see all those bjj guys, dats emphasized newaza, if u gonna talk bout these stuff u gotta be a bit informed
MakeLadiesHappy 1 year ago
@MakeLadiesHappy Not just fedor,Taktarov,Kharitonov,Semenov,Fedor's brother,while only judo fighter i know that is good at mma is Karo Parisyan
Sanguinius93446 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 bjj is judo, search a bit bout meada( founder of bjj) and youll know wut i mean, the storyline
MakeLadiesHappy 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 most if not all those u refered have background in judo, and sambo is a mix of judo and wrestling, are u gonna tell me wrestling is the best of the world cuz most guys in ufc are wrestlers???
MakeLadiesHappy 1 year ago
@MakeLadiesHappy nope,fedor did compete in judo,but his technique is sambo,you're right,sambo was made by judo practicioner,but it's technique is different than judo,they have different stance,different takedowns submissions .....and wrestling is much better than judo for MMA because judo is adapted for kimono,and has too many unrealistic rules.
Sanguinius93446 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 lol, fedor got judo, better sambo but still got judo, and ok sambo diferent than judo, but are you sure that wrestling is better, and that judo is unrealistic???? wrestling is very easy the first time u trained with a wrestler i won using judo, and without getting taken down, wrestlers got lots of conditioning, dats why, and i repeat, that bbj is judo, plz check the history of bjj at it all, plz, check it out and tell me if bjj is not judo
MakeLadiesHappy 1 year ago
@MakeLadiesHappy judo is very good,but it's not good at MMA because there are no gi in MMA.Most of judo techniques are made for gi.and BJJ isn't judo,judo was made out of JIU-JITSU not BRAZILIAN JIU-JITSU.
Sanguinius93446 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 dude, bjj was made out of judo, dats wut i mean, its like emphasized newaza judo, and judo is efective in mma, u don't need a judogi, and bjj is just famous at mma, cuz of marketing, dat made most people train it, bjj uses the same that judo just emphasizes newaza
MakeLadiesHappy 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 Bull shit!, Judo is good in MMA to! you modified your technics!
you your fucking brain!
Samboussr 1 year ago
@Samboussr But it's not as nearly as good as sambo or wrestling.
Sanguinius93446 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 you are mistake friend , before you speak try it.
Samboussr 1 year ago
@Sanguinius93446 its not due to your martial art that you win
SJMRMT1542 1 year ago
Ah, this judoka has strong newaza!
theshninja 2 years ago 3
Yep! Koji Komuro he study with Sensei Kanae Hirata at the Kosen Judo university!
Samboussr 2 years ago
Omoplata is actually "Sankaku Garami" in Judo terms.
Most russian grapplers practice both arts and just look at them as different rule sets
Carrera26 2 years ago 2
Judo always wins!
judorican 2 years ago 24
@judorican we sure do!
bjj can try all they want.....
judopathoftruth 1 year ago
@judorican exceto o jiu jitsu esse ninguem vence
ohvtnc 1 year ago
@judorican not always most of the time because there is bjj .
bjjjordan 1 year ago
@judorican it always does
xibbox 11 months ago
@judorican Simplified, Judo is the Best Defensive Martial Art. And what a tiger can do against a wall? ;)
Rostislavd 8 months ago
@judorican Judo. Sambo is improved. So I think that Sambo is better
TheGrather 8 months ago
@judorican It's not about The Martial Art but the fighter. I mean, just look at Wrestling or BJJ. But Judo is one of my faves too.
ymk19 7 months ago
@judorican but BJJ is the top notch
SirRediazVh 6 months ago
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Sambo is much better than judo
bakudo1 2 years ago
Sambo is a version of Judo, Sambo doesn't have any chokes so it's lacking there and Judo doesn't have leg locks so vice versa
chastell 2 years ago 2
sambo is russian judo is japanese how can they be version of each other?
LegoKiller 2 years ago
they weren't created at the same time lol, sambo is a relatively modern discipline that was founded by a russian judo practitioner which he based off of judo.
haggiss 2 years ago 19
@haggiss Kano Jigoro sent his student s around the world to spread the art of Judo or Kano Jiu Jitsu as it was called back then. Sambo, Judo and BJJ all have similiar techniques but specialize in different areas.
19thaman79 1 year ago
@19thaman79 they have similar techniques because they all come from judo. except judo, judo is judo. it comes from jiu jitsu. but not brazilian, japanese. this was a horrible comment but i'll post anyways.
alxh89 1 year ago
@LegoKiller it all started at WWII
SJMRMT1542 1 year ago
You`re completely wrong in your statement. Judo does have almost all the leg locks present in Sambo. The difference is that in Sambo you train them more.
MinotaJJ 2 years ago
@chastell
Sambo is based more on turkic, siberian and caucassian traditional styles. Parallelism does not mean same origin!
yalguunburen 2 years ago
Judo does have leg locks, they are simply not allowed in competition (very high risk of injuries). Thus a lot of Judo clubs dont pratice them extensivly or even bother teaching them.
Same goes for wrist lock and other small articulations dangerous locks
NoFrag0 1 year ago
@chastell judo has leg locks as well. have a look in internet.
SJMRMT1542 1 year ago
@SJMRMT1542 it hasnt had leglocks in sparring since ww2,look that up.The clubs that allow leglocks arent doing kodokan judo
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 don't know what you mean by sparring, do you mean randori? anyway, leglocks are essential if you want to get your 3rd Dan by doing ashi-garami in katame no kata.
SJMRMT1542 1 year ago
@SJMRMT1542 if you dont randori with it then it might as well not exist.
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 sorry don't understand your last response, it has nothing to do with my previous comment :/
SJMRMT1542 1 year ago
@SJMRMT1542 it has evrything to do with your last comment,you said theres a leglock in kata,I said if the lock isnt allowed in randori then its useless.Karate has grappling in its kata but they cannot grapple because they dont spar with it.Kata is dead training,useless for combat
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 Really I belong to a judo club that allows leg locks ,neck cranks etc.. in fact other clubs I have visited in IL allow pretty much everything that Judo tourney's don't in Randori
glock70 2 months ago
@glock70 they arent part of the ijf then ,leg locks have been out of kodokan judo since the 50s,same with neck cranks.Some judo schools that dont compete much in official comps will vary from the syllabus.
scarred10 2 months ago
@scarred10 actually all the Dojo's I visit are all USA JUDO memebers myself included leg locks are still taught as well as neck cranks I still apply neck cracks as well as chin cranks in Randori all the clubs I visit are tourney clubs that practice Judo as a whole not just throws some are crossed trained with Jitz some are just Judo clubs but they stay true to Kansetsu waza and still practice knee,ankle,wrist & locks of course these locks are not allowed in tourney but are still needed.
glock70 2 months ago
Lovin' Pantera playing in the background....... i think its Pantera
AmazingDeadThings 2 years ago
I agree with judopathoftrue, plus a huge difference between both arts it that in judo you have 3 to 5 seconds to actually do something and extend the time you do newaza then if in 30 seconds you haven't got the submission you have to start again in tachiwaza. BJJ is focus only in newaza so you can spend up to 10 min or more until finally someone gets the submission.
edmocama 2 years ago
both are very technical quys.
YetiDeti 2 years ago
That really was a great match. Good vid.
shaolinking5 2 years ago
A good match, Judo guys love those shoulder and arm triangles even though they rarely finish.
Plato86 2 years ago
Finish what?
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
I mean get the submission.
Plato86 2 years ago
you dont know much about judo newaza then????
alot of judo fights end with subs or pins.
jsut as many end with ippon.
infact judo newaza invented BJJ
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
Can you read or are you just looking for an argument? I said that shoulder and arm triangles rarely finish, I did not say judokas could not finish. I don't know about you but I prefer the armbar and rear naked to shoulder locks as the opponent can easily reverse and or improve his position.
Plato86 2 years ago
i prefer the shoulder locks myself, i've had more success with these than i have with rear naked choke though i agree with you in that the arm bar remains one of my faves also. i'm gonna guess you're BJJ man?
TheBeastmaster2000 2 years ago
Yep , been training for about four years now. So you really have had more success with the shoulder locks in competition? Which one, omoplata (ude-garami in Judo)?
Plato86 2 years ago
yes thats precisely the one although the rear naked has brought some success. trained BJJ myself a few years ago then made the switch to benefit my stand up game after getting "judo'd out" by some visiting judo students.
TheBeastmaster2000 2 years ago
LOL sounds like you took a ride on the Uchimata express. I have not cross trained with Judo guys but I have been hip tossed by Samboist, and it is not fun. The good thing about hip tosses is that they usually leave you in half guard or your opponent in side control and thus not a horrible position.
Plato86 2 years ago
@Plato86 ude garami would be kimura to you guys, ashi ude garami is the one your thinkign about ashi being foot shulder lock (omoplata)
judopathoftruth 1 year ago