what i dont understand, is that the world is SUDDENLY scared of islam right after September 11. This religion did not come out eleven years ago. If that was the case, then yes, you should be scared. This religion has been around for 1400 yrs. Why are they suddenly scary and bad? Yes they did a bad thing 10 years ago (Osama Bin Laden) but he does NOT represent the 1.8 billion muslims. Thank you.
@illuminatiperspectiv what the hell are you talking about? Seriosuly people, go read a book or something! Watching Fox News really got to you guys to be idiots.
I see Sam Harris talking about his perceptions of Islam, however, will he actually ever engage in a debate with a high level Muslim scholor? (Shabir Ally is practically a local Islamic apologist, and easy to find) Harris talks about Muslims and Islam "Reports given to him or that he's read, on Islam and Muslims), without speaking to a real Muslim to get his perspective on that issue. This is typical Atheist cowardice.
@MissAPierce I saw the conversation between Harris and Aslan, and, I can tell you it was not about the tenets and dogma of Islam. It wasn't about the teachings of the Quran or what Islam is.
And for the record, Aslan destroyed him in the discussion.
According to prominent Jewish rabbis in Israel and the U.S., Talmudic Orthodox Judaism condones blowing a elderly man out of a wheelchair with explosives launched from helicopter warship missiles (as in the case of Israel's assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin on 3-22-04).
In which forum shall we look to find you wringing your hands over this particularly repulsive spectacle of Jewish extremism, Sam??? Ye hypocrites!
This fool is a jew. Jewish are know to fool ppl. You pagan christians are falling for him but this jew, Harris believes in God. Pagan ex-christians aka athiests, you have always been in darkness and now you are in a bigger hole. Irrationism.
Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
@djs259 You should read about the persoaction of Zoroastrians in Iran or or christians in egypt. Islam has always been unpleasant regardless of contrys like Israel. There is a great deal of guilty and pitty surronding this subject, to be honest I am getting tired of it. Beside I think people should try to ignore nationality and religon and just tread each other like equals.
@karikon11 Yes, I agree that Islam can be unpleasant, but that goes double for Judaism, especially the settler movement in the West Bank. The thing is, Harris is a big hypocrite; he points his filthy moralistic finger (ironically preachy for a self styled atheist) at Islam for it's barbarity and reactionary religious dogmas, but turns a blind eye to those of his ethnic comrades.
FACT: Muslims never attacked the U.S. prior to its unilateral backing of Israeli aggression and theft of Arab land!
@djs259 The treament of zoroastrians after the arab occupation was far more brutal then the treatment of palestinians. Both islam and judism are build on books that are not to be recpected however I think it´s clear that jews are not trying to push their religion on others. The same can not be said about muslim for they want to puch there religon into lifes of all humans. The are many example of inhuman acts of cruelty that was inspierd be the religon long before Isreal came to exist.
@karikon11 All this babble about cruelty toward Zoroastrians is not even remotely relevant to the points I raised. How does any of this serve to extenuate the crimes of the Zionist regime in 2011? Or it's role in fomenting wars for the past 50 years. Islam's supposed "backwardness" does not justify Zionist aggression and occupation. I will again mention that ARABS and MUSLIMS NEVER attacked the UNITED STATES prior to the American backing of ISRAEL! This is a fact that can't be swept away.
@djs259 it´s not like Isreal came along and all of the surdden Islamic militlism and aggression came to exist. I all honesty the religon of the palistinas does not matter to me, they could be christans and I would still fell the same way about christanity. If they were christans then the same people that would support Isreal would not suppot isreal and The Islamist would not be to consernde with the suffering of the palistinians if they were christans.
@djs259 Things like the attack on Aziz Nesin and other events like that have nothing to do with Isreal or american miltarism. I do not belive for second that compassion for the suffering of palistinians can lead people to commite violance against civilians. The country of Bangladesh made the ,,Vested Property Act,, witch resulted in the forcefull theift of 75% of all Hindu land in the contry and I ask you how many of the islamist would be outraged by an act of injustace like that.
Why not do away with all religions. They're all decisive and the number one excuse for bad behavior. Remember christianity was once just as bad and so was hinduism. Some gays are really annoying and pushy. All religions are fear based and use guilt to recruit.
I'd have to agree. We invented freedom in 1826. Then we invented technology in 1852 (in jolly old england I believe?). Then we invented prosperity in 1898, right about the time we invented oil. Lets not call them native americans. lets call them indians. I would never live on a reservation with those savages. Those fuckers got what was coming, am I wrong?
I can't believe Sam Harris. Such a load of Bullshit. The idea that Europe somehow invented "civilization" is a myth. To quote Samuel P. Huntington - "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
@topperheartramada Wow. I'm not going to get pulled into a debate by someone who likes to be aggressive to strangers online. (I never understand why people do that?) I would advice you to read history of Afghanistan. It's one of the last places one earth you'd want to live in exactly because of what I was talking about. You clearly share his prejudice and his lack of perspective and irony. Good luck to you!
@itierney well, you can also fuck off to an native american reservation and live 'in harmony with nature'. you know, freezing your butt off, having your wife die at childbirth and starving while praying to the gods to send the buffalo your way. europe did not invetn civilization, it aroze millennia ago in different places on the planet. but europe did invent the most free, most prosperous, and most technologically advanced civilization. i am proud of it, and refuse leftist relativism.
@itierney of course it didn't invent civilisation. India has a rich philosophical tradition and profound religions, for example. But Europe did invent modern science and industrial capitalism and democracy. Its not like all we brought to the world was violence and domination. Without Europe, the rest of the world would most likely be much like it was 1000 years ago. Japan would be feudal and have no electricity etc. Europe is the source of the modern world.
Sam Harris is one of the biggest hypocrites around.
According to him, terrorism is bad (but if Zionist Jews do it it's OK).
This guy is not an atheist in the true sense of the word at all. His allegiance is clearly with Zion.
Notice how he is happy to criticize Islam and Christianity endlessly, but not the slightest peep about Judaism (whose teachings are arguably even more depraved)...?
Sam Harris is more powerful than any Christ. He puts the dead Jew zombie carpenter to shame for influence and power. Sam Harris is every religitards nightmare. Good luck religitards arguing with this guy. He is a genius. He is unbeatable in debate. He proves without a doubt that there is no god. Sam Harris has turned every religitard to an atheist. They just haven't figured it out yet
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
In 2004 192 ppl died in islamic terrorist attacks. The financing for those attacks came from drug sales & street robberies against tourists. 86% of the street robberies in spanish cities are of north african origin i.e. morocco, Tangers etc.. 64% of the jails are filled with these criminals. Some are sent out by the local mosques to commit these acts in order to fund terrorism. Such actions against infidels are condoned in islam. They don't integrate & treat us with a total lack of respect .FI
WARNING TO IDIOTS ONLY: ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. NO CREATOR WITH ANY COMMON SENSE WOULD DARE REPRESENT THE FILTH OF A BOOK CALLED THE KORAN, FOR IF GOD ACTS LIKE THAT HE CAN SHOVE THE EARTH UP HIS ASSHOLE. CURSE THE DAY IT WAS WRITTEN & THE PEDO IT WAS WRITTEN BY. IT'S A LIE. WHY WOULD GOD HATE ME FOR HATING FILTH? HE DOESN'T. IF THERE'S A HEAVEN I'LL BE THERE LONG BEFORE YOU SICKOS FOR HAVING FOUGHT AGAINST TYRANNY,FILTH,LIES,TAQQIYA,STONINGS,SUICIDE BOMBINGS, MARGINALIZATION OF WOMEN &GAYS
@ThankYouAndHello I'm exposing islam for what it is. One of my sources is the koran itself & the other is the ''SHOEBATFOUNDATION''. Wake up before it's too late. You must understand that my motivations are solely based on moving humanity in the right direction. Compassion thou not seen in my words are their in my action. Women & the gay community surely share my struggle against a filth without foundation i.e. lies. Mohammed is a pedophile that is a fact, is that a cancer you want in your yard?
@ThankYouAndHello Perhaps it's you the absurd one here. What part of my ''WARNING TO IDIOTS ONLY'' didn't you undertand? Is there anything there that is a lie? Not one thing & to top it off I left out alot of other things on my list because of the lack of space. Islam is a perversion of the mind of macho men neandrathal throw backs who profess something that isn't conducive to the path of peace luv & harmony. I'm only the passing the message here of a truth that needs to told
@hombrelubinero You are reading and selecting specific lines from a book you do not understand. If you are to be critical; know your stuff. You have said the prophet was a pedo. But you do not put it in any historical context. 100 years ago, your great grand mother had children at 13, go back 300 years and see the age of people who have children or are married. Historically you make no sense. Adhere to your warning. Understand that nothing is separate and start again;with respect.
@ThankYouAndHello With respect, I don't think that it's fair to completely acquit Muhammad of responsibility for sex with an underage girl. The reason is that it's a bit odd for someone to claim to get their knowledge of morality directly from an omniscient supernatural being, but then be judged by the morality of the day. It seems that the moral actions of someone who claims to be God's final prophet shouldn't have to be defended by this argument.
@ralph489 I share your sentiment completely but i do not come from that angle. I was trying to suggest that before we place a very specific historical figure into the moral musings of modernity we should think, extend our imaginations to another time.
And in nature no animal waits to have offspring. People put it off because of money (capitalism). There is never a problem when a 13 year old has a child, when that child has loot.
It has never been about the protection of children!
@iranianAtheism You apologize for the scum of your land by blaming it on the west, while your people as a culture have allowed your region of the world to become the most dangerous hotbed of idiots with weapons on the planet. You may blame me and my culture, it doesn't change the fact that our country flourishes while yours languishes under oppression. I'll go back to my "nuke em ragheadz" rally (as only someone as uneducated as yourself would dare to generalize) over your dictator any day.
That was the most asinine comment I've ever read. He is not a "religion apologist".
Oh you disagree with an atheist that is a religious apologist. Seems crazy, but would be interesting is what you disagree with someone of such "crazy" character...?
@ElDuorPaso I'm eager to respond, but aside from "that was the most asinine comment I've ever read", your post is unintelligible. Please try again. Thanks!
I do think that Islam as an ideology is incompatible with Western values PERIOD....however, Sam makes the mistake of highlighting the 68% or so who are barbaric and ignoring the 32%..some muslims (like Salman Rushdie) have and do speak against this lunacy and in Rushdie's case he's atheist. To demonize all 1.3 billion ppl just because of their origins is hardly a solution. The problem is CULTURAL- not RACIAL. In that Sam has disappointed me, and his Zionist bias against Islam may be the reason.
@AceofDlamonds I know more about Nader Shah than you do, you filthy Western baboon who thinks he knows everything, shut the fuck up and go back to your "NUKE EM RAGHEADZ" rally.
@AceofDlamonds I know more about Nader Shah than you do, you filthy Western baboon who thinks he knows everything, shut the fuck up and go back to your "NUKE EM RAGHEADZ" rally.
That's just not enough, being less of an a-hole shouldn't cut it, America is supposed to be TEAM AMERICA, but instead, we have corrupt corporatist/evangelical fundies who just keep blowing stuff up and invading countries with oil.
The planet has a great future to look forward to. One in which Islam is put to rest as a medieval babaranism & out lawed under the same guidelines as nazism.
Know Islam, No peace... No Islam, Know peace. Ban Islam worldwide by all means available to us. While we're at it ban porno, they seem to be at the same level of evil, except for the fact that one is not a religion
@holdemspank actions speak louder than words. I have no problem with the 5 pillars of islam, it's all the in between pillars that seem to be shining. You best go easy or they'll be sending you back to your miserable country. Why is it miserable, because of islam. Why do ppl immigrate from & not to muslim countries? If you can't figure that out then there's no use in arguing with you, you're already gone.
@hombrelubinero that is exactly what you have no knowledge about.There is a difference between religion and regional customs.Im not muslim but read their Koran.The reason for immigrations is not because the prophet mohammed or the book says evil things, its because the living conditions in some specific countries is pretty messed up.That is because of the customs and having stereotypes without knowing anything just like you. People do immigrate to muslim countries.check turkey,cyprus,arab emirts
@holdemspank I've lived in the middle east & have visited other muslim countries. The multi wife families in huge numbers are encouraged in muslim countries. Polygamy is adultery. Mohammed was a pedo. Islam(evil) can't change anything in the hearts of men except for provoking infantile conflict amongst macho idiots who take islam as a guide to life when in fact it's a guide to death. It seems you're the one who doesn't have a clue. Burn that zombie making book & get a life asshole
@holdemspank Yeah they come from other miserable muslim countries. Where were you educated in a fucking cave? What you just said is absolutely lame. Answer the next question dumb fuck. Why would their gay moon god hate me for distrusting a murdering pedohile who commited adultery & sodomy 10 times over? The little you know about the inner workings of the real islam & it's evil on the streets of europe. Time to pack your bags & move on, you got your warning so get to it scumbags
@holdemspank Saying ALLAH ( MAY SHIT FALL DIRECTLY IN HIS FILTHY MOUTH) is a sleazy sack of shit gives one the idea he exists. He exists alright, much like Homer Simpson. He just a stupid figment of some neadrathals imagination. The koran is childish poetry that contradicts itself from one book to the next, that's a fact. It's no more than a cheap way to control sexual perverts with the false promise of unbridled sex in some make believe fairy tale. Grow the fuck up you imbicile & get over it
@hombrelubinero Well first of all your probably the most childish person ive ever seen in a religious argument.. Just for your small brain to get some new info, Allah is the same as your god. Its not something different. Koran is a single book unlike christians who made different testaments. And dont talk crap that you dont know any shit about. Grow for about 10 more years, then i will argue with you.. And you just get a better hobby than trying to mock islam with your none existing knowledge.
@holdemspank Tht's typical of someone who is truely following a foolish & childish created by a pedo.
Bukhari 62#65 Narrated Aisha. The prophet married her when she was 6 years old & had intercourse with her at. At 6 Mohammed did foreplay with Aisha frothing his penis between her legs (maturbating himself) at 51.If you're hurt for me fighting the filth I imagine our ideals & morals don't match. If you live in the west start packing your bags you pervert. I hate child molesters & I hate islam
@hombrelubinero You cannot even argue properly. All you do is jump from one topic to another without even giving any proper thesis. Grow a bit older before someone also froths their penis between your legs.
@holdemspank You are what's wrong with the world. What richots between your ears is what makes you the care taker for pedophilia and patholgical lying. Muslims by doctrine are liars, that's a fact!! What does burkhari 62#65 say? Read aloud. GO TO SHOEOBATFOUNDATION. Walis Shoebat is an ex-muslim who tells it like it is, untapped & raw. It hurts but sometimes that's the only way to wake ppl up. Hate for everything the truth is my form of hard love against the evils of islam.
@hombrelubinero You are stupidly obsessed with this. I'm not muslim im an atheist. But i know Koran way better than you. Thats why im trying to tell you to get some REAL information. Rather than believing what other people say, go read the books yourself, and believe whatever your conscious tell u to. All you religious people is whats wrong in this world; not me. You should just stop attacking others when none of you have any proof about any crap.
@holdemspank you liar. Taqqiya. It isn't the first time I see a muzzie playing the atheist in order to put islam in a good light. It's as if you didn't bother to listen to the vid. on which you're commenting.
I'm an atheist. As an atheist you should have grown up enough to see that my words are from a person using tuf luv to prevent uneducated blacks & other idiots from falling for the lies & filth of islam. It's my contribution towards the good of humanity. No christian apologetics here
@hombrelubinero you are really an idiot. you just make your own reality rather than believing what other ppl tell you. Why would i try to hide my religion from an uneducated, idiotic retard like u? most of the muslims arent even black.. proof that you dunno any crap.. ask your mom about these issues.. maybe she'll put some real stuff into ur non functioning brain.
@ThankYouAndHello So you admit that islam represents a color. Before commenting make use of your brain. I make these comments to expose the evils of islam. If you're a muslim tough shit. You suffer from a mind shackling perversion of the mind that will lead to armed conflict among the civil population. America is not islamic even though Obama is. His days are numbered. The problem is the filth between your ears. Islam is a sick & perverted ideology exclusively inclined for perverts like you
@hombrelubinero Be accurate. Obama's parents were atheists. You are speaking about such a specific view of Islam. It would be better to say orthodox, fundamentalist islam, you could even throw literal into the mix.
Calm yourself. Outside of your accusations and foul language you aren't saying anything at all.
@TheDano1947 Why start with anything but the most cancerous agenda of filth humanity has ever invented. That evil is called islam. I can live with christians,hindus,jews,atheists,homosexuals and a whole lot of other forms of thinking but Islam has got to go. No more perversions of the mind.
this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. has he ever heard of the KKK? or nazis? or the spanish inquisition? or the crusades? Spend 5 minutes studying christian persecution of jews and you will realize that just because you aren't islamic doesn't mean that everyone that follows the religion is going to 'fly planes into buildings' utterly surprising that he brought up 9/11 nobody else does.
@seiryuification He's talking about what's going on right now. Is Christian extremism on an even keel with Muslim extremism right now? Not even close.
The only debate on the conquests of India is about how many died. India was and still is one of the most densely populated areas on earth. And since Hindus aren't exactly Monotheists they were considered worse than Christians/Jews. The number can range from 20 to 80 million, but it's far more than the number killed in the Crusades.
I knew you meant Native Americans, I was just saying there is no way half a billion people lived in the Americas at the time because Europe wasn't even that populated despite being more urban.
You can call Zionism racist or say that Jews stole Palestine and we can argue it for hours, but either way they have a cleaner history than Muslims. Muslims "stole" the entire middle east and killed more than Israel has times a hundred.
As for whose history is cleaner, Zionists or Muslims, Israel only exists for a little over 60 years. I don't think that's a fair comparison.
Now, if you want to measure on the treatment of others during the time, that we can do.
Just look how the state treats the people who lived there before them, how they constantly bulldoze homes to make settlements, cage the people in gaza, have checkpoints around the palestinians.
I don't know what your definition of "cleaner" is...
@ITheProfessorI The conditions the Palestinians are living under currently are unwarranted? The Zionists settled in Palestine for this purpose? Try to think about why the Palestinians still don't have a legitimate civilized state.
@WonderBread006 The apartheid argument is especially sickening. Comparing what Israel does to the Apartheid is just spitting in the face of South African apartheid victims. Hell: Recently the Israel supreme court ruled that the largest settlement in the west bank must be taken down because it is obviously illegal. If Israel was comparable to apartheid South Africa, that would not occur.
...Half a billion people? Even Europe wasn't that populated at the time. The number of indigenous Americans who died is usually estimated at around 10 million. At least 90% of them died from disease, most of the rest dying from war not genocide. Muslims killed a lot more Indians in their conquests of India than Christians did Native Americans.
Harris is a Jew by birth and somewhat of a Zionist. There is nothing wrong with that, they have a cleaner history than Muslims.
I don't get it...are all Religions EQUALLY as bad? As Harris said, are Amish as dangerous as Muslims? you Liberals need to get over the fact that Muslims are brown and poor and throw your colonialist fantasy out the window. Islam is just the worst.
I'll give Harris, Dawkins, and Hitchens credit on this, they don't equate Christian extremism to Muslim extremism as to many in the media feel they must do.
@JusticeVSpropaganda ' you would put a bullet in my head' - wee, gee Herr Properganda, you sure do sound like them nazis you so emulate -
Bit of problem with your oh so brave threat to commit murder you zionutter dipshit - im an adult - im not a child,and any one can google the staistcs to see how much Israels zionazis prefer to kill unarmed children. 222 in 2007, 363 in 22 days btwn 08-09..
I guess thats what you mean when you advocate a Deir Yessin Final Solution, eh nazi boy
Hey, what if i compare to the deaths from the korean conflict?
Hey, how about to the deaths of 2 million in Iraq & Afghanistan?
err - the deaths in the vietnam war, including the 400000 killed in Cambodia?
Darfur is a civil conflict. a war btwn 2 factions..kind of like Rwanda - how many dead in Rwanda? ops, no muslims in Rwanda - that wont suit your vitriol
2 million have not died in Iraq and Afghanistan. About that number did die in the Armenian Holocaust. Which was a Genocide, and it had alot more to do with Religion than the wars in Afhgan & Iraq.
Unless you blame both World Wars on Christianity, nothing beats Islam. Tens of millions died in the Muslim conquests. As for the Jews and Israel, they don't even come close.
Those events weren't called "Terrorism or Genocide" because who wins the battle is who writes history.
Now onto Israel.
The tactics Israel uses to maintain power is through force and coercion. They keep the Palestinians jailed like dogs, check them at check points in land that was never theirs, then wonder why some guy throws a rock at them or shoots a rocket.
As for Harris, He's a Zionist/Jew parading as an atheist to further divide people.
There really is no line between Genocide and Holocaust. Call it what you may, it's the second largest genocide of the 20th century and had as much to do with religion than race.
The objective in the Crusades was to recapture Jerusalem which was already taken by the Muslims from the Christians as long with what is modern day Spain, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, ect. The Muslim "crusades" were the bloodiest and longest lasting religious conquests in history.
The reason I said Genocide because Holocaust is associated with Jews, and when you speak on that event, you get a mental picture of what happened to the Jews and the reasonings. I try to be clear is all : )
As for the Crusades, No. The point of the crusades was initially to spread the kingdoms & christianity and break the Muslim expansions. It later turned into Jerusalem when the Pope used the rhetoric of "If you goto Jerusalem, you will be forgiven of all sins."
As for Spain, that came much later but during that time, the Jews resided there ( escaping persecution by the Christians of Europe )
Until the Spanish Inquisition came around and...well, you know the story...
As for "Muslim Crusades", It was a Christian one, sorry. Rome fell, Muslims took Jerusalem, and the Crusades were launched ( They attacked the Muslims, not the other way around)
Not Half a billion of Europe, lol, Native Americans.
As for Spain, that came much later but during that time, the Jews resided there ( escaping persecution by the Christians of Europe )
Until the Spanish Inquisition came around and...well, you know the story...
As for "Muslim Crusades", It was a Christian one, sorry. Rome fell, Muslims took Jerusalem, and the Crusades were launched (They attacked the Muslims, not the other way around)
Not Half a billion of Europe, lol, Native Americans.
The Christians had been trying to stop Muslim expansion before that as was everybody....because people just don't like to be forced to convert to other religions.
Spain was taken by Muslims within a century of Muhammad's death. Pretty early since the Muslim conquests lasted hundreds of years.
The only reason they're called Crusades is because the word stems from the word "cross". But Muslims were conquering Christian land centuries before the Crusades began.
They weren't trying to stop anything, certain areas were Pagan while others were Christian.
There were even treaties by the Muslims & Christians not to fight each other, until groups like the Templars broke the agreements, leading into future wars.
You can't say it was about forcing man when there were treaties showing otherwise, and Christians in the Muslim empires.
If there was force, there wouldn't be Christian Palestinians, Egyptian Coptic Christians, Etc.
PropergandaV justice would like it to be known that he fuly suports a final solution of non members of his cult
Nazi propagandist - the differnece between you and a nazi is? - lets see, the nazis hated jews and demanded a german aryan only state and created the final solution-
PropergandaV justice claimed that members of his cult are the ony true people, that israel should be religiously pure ( despite his not living their ) and he happily advocates a De Yessin final solution.
@JusticeVSpropaganda "NAZI POECE OF SHIT " gee Herr Properganda boy - gee, you get a bit made when you are forced to embrace your own nazi emulating hate speech - and how gutless and cowardly and illiterate are you - you post a comment upon my page but of curse, wont allow the same - Hang on, your nazi forebears also didnt allow dissent, did they
- typical gutless nazi troll, posting hatred & inciting violence against a religious group -
I am sure that there are many normal people Muslims, but what percentage of 1.5 billion has to be 'bad' before you have a big problem? I'm sure Afghans and Pakistanis are nice people but what an armpit some of the areas must be to throw acid on girls and to stone women to death.
@ThatGuyWhoSuckzBoobz The aggressors can be on both sides you are right but when was the last time a muslim has invaded a western country for?, not for over a good 200 years! or so
@TheTruth8018 muslims invade countries by mass immigration and infiltrations. look how Israel becomes occupied by Arabs and Sudanese who take advantage that it is a democratic state. not to mention demography - by making many children to every wife they get married to. terror and provoking war is also a tool of invasion: if they shell Israel with rockets or crash airplanes to the WTC and then they cry that Israel or USA retaliate, how would you call that? Hypocracy of course.
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz the prophet mohammed drawing is an attack however it means to their values and beliefs, its like if someone bullied you about the country you came from and you were nationalists and loved your country dearly then you wud say ''attacked'', however defence in terms of war if someone invades your country then it is permissble and this includes muslims invading other muslims countries!
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz But at the same time the quran is very clear about killing non innocents in war, it also quotes that if you kill one human life than it is as of you killed the whole of humanity, and the second caliph quoted do not touch or kill monestries,birds and animals or towns, and i dont ignore parts im just not stupid about going into war if their aint nothing to fight for, because even in war in islam, is very clear about certain things
@TheTruth8018 but it does say muslims can fight in defense of islam. and what is defense to a muslim? If someone draws muhammad, a muslim can view that as an "attack" on islam. And they can feel using violence is 'defence'. 'defence" is a vague word and muslims can say they're only using violence in self defence when it is clear they are the aggressors.
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Violence against non muslims is jusfitied in a state of modern warfare not the game lol, yes they are verses in the quran where it talks about the concept of war and how the non muslims are the enemies but these points have been historically proven throughout the centuries which the muslims armies have battled in, however just because it says in the hadiths and quran it doesnt give me the right to go blow myself up or attack innocent non muslims in public areas,
@TheTruth8018 My point is that muslims draw inspiration for suicidal violence against non-muslims from the quran and hadith. Since most of them are college educated and middle class. Poverty, education, etc are not the problem. Islam is. I assume you are a moderate muslim. If that's the case, you are a moderate because you ignore the parts of the quran that call for violence. Extremism is the pure, uncut form of any religion. That is just a fact theists have to deal with.
you can see in my channel - the playlist "in their own voices" and also the story of Brigitte Gabriel- a Christian survivor from Lebanon, which was destroyed by Palestinians and other radical Muslims (most Palestinians btw are radical Muslims and voted for Hamas). I recommend very much also the channel of user ChrisWilsonTopTopics.
" I declare one dead of us worth 1000 of their. very simple. and now let me tell you what Zionists are really guilty of: Your small penis!"
Yeah man, you invite people to your page, to look at yor nazi emulating propaganda, how you say a jew, a member of an ancient mythical cult is worth 1000 non jews - just like the nazis said 1 dead german was worth 100 dead jews - I like how you zionutters have become nazis - the irony,eh
@flumoxed2 you quote only part of what I said, how typical: I SAID THAT THE ARABS CREATED THIS EQUATION OF RATIO OF 1:1000 (SAME AS NAZIS BTW) BECAUSE WHEN THEY DEMAND 1000 PPL OF THEM FOR ONE KIDNAPPED SOLDIER OF US, THEY MAKE THE DEFINITION OF 1:1000. THE NAZIS IN THIS COMPARING ARE THE ARABS.
@propaganda , as usual, you lie to twist your sick racist agenda -
a kidnapped soldier? how does 1 kidnap a soldier?
Israel states it is at war with Hamas, thus Gilad Shilat is by any definition a POW
Shilat was captured 24 hours AFTER the IDF infiltrated a mile into gaza & kidnapped Osama & Mustafa Muamar, 2 Palestinian teenagers
Shalit's captors issued a statement on 26 June 2006, offering Shalit if Israel agreed to release all female Pal prisoners and all Pals under the age of 18
@flumoxed2 I had enough of YOUR sick twisted mind.
you are the type of ppl who put in their vids pictures of Israeli children who were murdered and tell they are Palest. as the baby Shalhevet Pass. Everybody know PALLYWOOD...
the bottom line is still that: for Gilad Shalit you want 1000 of yours. The killers from your ppl whom we feed instead execute. Now I go to my Shabbat holiday, and you can go to hell
@Herr Nazi propagandist - the differnece between you and a nazi is? - lets see, the nazis hated jews and demanded a german aryan only state and created the final solution-
you claim that members of your cult are the ony true people, that israel should be religiously pure ( despite you not living their ) and you advocate a De Yessin massacre final solution.
The bottom line is that Gilad Shilat is a POW, captured 24 hours AFTER the IDF made an illegal incursion into Gaza & kidnapped 2 teenagers
@JusticeVSpropaganda Brigitte Gabriel is a hero. Andrew Flumoxed2 Magee thinks of himself as one. But Andrew is a legend in his own mind. My showcase video is about him.
As much as we atheists will disagree with theists on some matters, it will never go so far that one of us will kill each other or subjugate the other under brutal and primitive rule. But we will never be able to live peacefully alongside with real muslims or under Sharia. Thats why we all must unite; atheists, buddhists, jainists, jews, christians, sikhs and everyone else who is not a muslim, against Islam and fight this brutal and primitive ideology if we truly want to know peace.
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz There is no such thing has 72 virgins in islam and that myth of jihad has been debunked, however most of these fighters do not have weapons do fight back, so what do you expect, we aint scared of dying but matrydom is seen an act of bravery in islam, yes you are right some of them are educated, but just like most army generals or people, to leave a life of luxury and education takes alot of manhood guts,
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobZ Im not talking about that just, im talking about overall extremism, not all of them were educated some of them were but all the hijakers, so you fail
@TheTruth8018 wat u fail to realize is that most muslim extremists are educated. so yes, it's possible to have the college education necessary to build a nuclear bomb, and still believe in foolish things like martyrdom and 72 virgins in paradice. besides, extremism is not a problem if a religion's core principals are non-violence. Islam's core principals are not non-violence. Jainism's core principals are non-violence. That's why we don't have to worry about jain extremists.
@TheTruth8018 //yes you are right some of them are educated, but just like most army generals or people, to leave a life of luxury and education takes alot of manhood guts,//
Thank you for making my point. Muslims who have the good life, and have a decent education still feel that violence against non-muslims is justified. They don't become extremists because of socio-political or economic circumstances, but because the quran and hadith is telling them to do so.
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz you are right: the more they are educated they hate is more crazy. that was the case also with nazis: many of those who planned the extermination camps were engeeners and doctors.
@1tabligh You keep pasting angry rants here against atheism as a material concept, presumable to justify your actual belief...
....That a very specific type of God sent angels and perfect heavenly doctrines to an ancient desert tribesman living in the dusty backwater of Arabia 1400 years ago. He (this God is male) revealed that humans should (wow!) often be fair and kind to each other, though also sometimes "slay the idolaters wherever you find them", among other wonderful divine precepts....
How about the Christian extremists in the Bush administration who mass murdered far more Muslims than Osama bin Laden could dream of? Christian mass murderers who Harris supported.
The difference between Harris and a creationist is that creationists don't usually advocate genocide against people who don't agree with them.
@OfLegend I don't know what Christian extremists you're talking about, but when people are guilty of mass murder from secular democratic countries, we prosecute them. That's simply not the case with many Islamic countries. Harris has never advocated genocide and anyone in any democratic country who does quickly loses all credibility. When did the Bush administration ever mass murder Muslims? Never.
You said: I don't know what Christian extremists you're talking about, but when people are guilty of mass murder from secular democratic countries, we prosecute them.
BS.. Innocent children are being killed by American and Israeli criminals and your secular democratic countries are forgetting about them
That's why Islamists found that suicide bombings are their only acts of prosecution
@Qatarienne So suicide bombers wouldn't be so mean, if we weren't so mean to them? Bullshit. The reason innocent people are dying is because we have to fight crazy religious fucks in shit-hole countries halfway around the world because no one else has the balls to do it. You are delusional if you think that islamists have a single legitimate claim to make. Human rights mean nothing to them.
If you've debated this guy, maybe you've noticed that his comments are often a little bit "off", as if they don't quite address the issue. You've perhaps noticed that he rarely answers direct questions.
There's a reason for this: His posts are not his own. Every bit he writes is a copy-paste from some other, unacknowledged source. I sent a pm to him, asking him not to do this. His reply was entirely copy-pasted from elsewhere.
@YourXavier I assume you are saying 1tabligh is the Copy/paste bandit and not me, as all my responses are in my own words and from my own mind. And While I did not bother to do the "Google Test" I had already assumed most, if not all of his comments were indeed Copy/pasted. However he did seem to add a few specific comments aimed back at me.
Oh, 1tabligh is most definitely the "bandit". He occasionally writes a bit himself. It's easy to tell when he does this because those comments aren't nearly as well-composed as the stuff he steals.
I've noticed he seems to do more of his own writing lately, so maybe he's finally realizing the idiocy of copy-paste spam. One can hope.
If some muslim nutters, chriastian nutters, jewish nutters, budhist nutters, ATHEIST nutters etc do something stupid or nutting etc than we do not paint the whole community as nutters etc.
surely every community including yours has its own nutters etc.
If such was the case than you, me and the whole of human race would be .... bunch of nutters..on this planet. With due respect, What is the matter with you? how do you judge?
Jainism has never had extreamists
ramatirthadasa 1 week ago
what i dont understand, is that the world is SUDDENLY scared of islam right after September 11. This religion did not come out eleven years ago. If that was the case, then yes, you should be scared. This religion has been around for 1400 yrs. Why are they suddenly scary and bad? Yes they did a bad thing 10 years ago (Osama Bin Laden) but he does NOT represent the 1.8 billion muslims. Thank you.
sharif237 1 month ago
@sharif237 really..what about what they did to INDIA..hmm? sell your bullshit somewhere else!
illuminatiperspectiv 1 month ago 2
@illuminatiperspectiv what the hell are you talking about? Seriosuly people, go read a book or something! Watching Fox News really got to you guys to be idiots.
sharif237 1 month ago
I see Sam Harris talking about his perceptions of Islam, however, will he actually ever engage in a debate with a high level Muslim scholor? (Shabir Ally is practically a local Islamic apologist, and easy to find) Harris talks about Muslims and Islam "Reports given to him or that he's read, on Islam and Muslims), without speaking to a real Muslim to get his perspective on that issue. This is typical Atheist cowardice.
Legend1One 1 month ago
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MissAPierce 1 month ago
@MissAPierce I saw the conversation between Harris and Aslan, and, I can tell you it was not about the tenets and dogma of Islam. It wasn't about the teachings of the Quran or what Islam is.
And for the record, Aslan destroyed him in the discussion.
Legend1One 1 month ago
How did the American talk show host Bill Maher put it: Their fundamentalist whackos are a lot more whacko than ours.
TomFynn 1 month ago
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According to prominent Jewish rabbis in Israel and the U.S., Talmudic Orthodox Judaism condones blowing a elderly man out of a wheelchair with explosives launched from helicopter warship missiles (as in the case of Israel's assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin on 3-22-04).
In which forum shall we look to find you wringing your hands over this particularly repulsive spectacle of Jewish extremism, Sam??? Ye hypocrites!
djs259 3 months ago
This fool is a jew. Jewish are know to fool ppl. You pagan christians are falling for him but this jew, Harris believes in God. Pagan ex-christians aka athiests, you have always been in darkness and now you are in a bigger hole. Irrationism.
bewareofdajjal 3 months ago
Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
djs259 3 months ago
@djs259 the followers of judism are like 0,2% of the world population so people generaly pay less attention to it.
karikon11 3 months ago
@karikon11 Yes, .2% of the world's population, but responsible for 90% of the world's violent conflicts today.
Think about what the world would be like without Israel brutalizing the Palestinians and stealing Arab land for the last 50 years.
"9 - 11" never would have happened. 'Nough said.
djs259 3 months ago
@djs259 You should read about the persoaction of Zoroastrians in Iran or or christians in egypt. Islam has always been unpleasant regardless of contrys like Israel. There is a great deal of guilty and pitty surronding this subject, to be honest I am getting tired of it. Beside I think people should try to ignore nationality and religon and just tread each other like equals.
karikon11 3 months ago
@karikon11 Yes, I agree that Islam can be unpleasant, but that goes double for Judaism, especially the settler movement in the West Bank. The thing is, Harris is a big hypocrite; he points his filthy moralistic finger (ironically preachy for a self styled atheist) at Islam for it's barbarity and reactionary religious dogmas, but turns a blind eye to those of his ethnic comrades.
FACT: Muslims never attacked the U.S. prior to its unilateral backing of Israeli aggression and theft of Arab land!
djs259 3 months ago
@djs259 The treament of zoroastrians after the arab occupation was far more brutal then the treatment of palestinians. Both islam and judism are build on books that are not to be recpected however I think it´s clear that jews are not trying to push their religion on others. The same can not be said about muslim for they want to puch there religon into lifes of all humans. The are many example of inhuman acts of cruelty that was inspierd be the religon long before Isreal came to exist.
karikon11 3 months ago
@karikon11 All this babble about cruelty toward Zoroastrians is not even remotely relevant to the points I raised. How does any of this serve to extenuate the crimes of the Zionist regime in 2011? Or it's role in fomenting wars for the past 50 years. Islam's supposed "backwardness" does not justify Zionist aggression and occupation. I will again mention that ARABS and MUSLIMS NEVER attacked the UNITED STATES prior to the American backing of ISRAEL! This is a fact that can't be swept away.
djs259 3 months ago
@djs259 it´s not like Isreal came along and all of the surdden Islamic militlism and aggression came to exist. I all honesty the religon of the palistinas does not matter to me, they could be christans and I would still fell the same way about christanity. If they were christans then the same people that would support Isreal would not suppot isreal and The Islamist would not be to consernde with the suffering of the palistinians if they were christans.
karikon11 3 months ago
@djs259 Things like the attack on Aziz Nesin and other events like that have nothing to do with Isreal or american miltarism. I do not belive for second that compassion for the suffering of palistinians can lead people to commite violance against civilians. The country of Bangladesh made the ,,Vested Property Act,, witch resulted in the forcefull theift of 75% of all Hindu land in the contry and I ask you how many of the islamist would be outraged by an act of injustace like that.
karikon11 3 months ago
@djs259 Amen.
sharif237 1 month ago
truth is we will have to fight islam at some point.... it will happen and in our lifetime...... may "god" help us all
weneedtodosomething 4 months ago
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i take my moral science and atheism with less bigotry and hubris. and less milk in my coffee.
waterspindle 5 months ago
Why not do away with all religions. They're all decisive and the number one excuse for bad behavior. Remember christianity was once just as bad and so was hinduism. Some gays are really annoying and pushy. All religions are fear based and use guilt to recruit.
TheDano1947 5 months ago
@TheDano1947 "All religions are fear based and use guilt to recruit." = untrue
hexusziggurat 4 months ago
If you are trying to enlighten us, perhaps you would share some info such as for instance what lecture this is from?
Hollander113 5 months ago
I'd have to agree. We invented freedom in 1826. Then we invented technology in 1852 (in jolly old england I believe?). Then we invented prosperity in 1898, right about the time we invented oil. Lets not call them native americans. lets call them indians. I would never live on a reservation with those savages. Those fuckers got what was coming, am I wrong?
itierney 5 months ago
I can't believe Sam Harris. Such a load of Bullshit. The idea that Europe somehow invented "civilization" is a myth. To quote Samuel P. Huntington - "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
itierney 5 months ago
@itierney really? then be free to fuck off to afghanistan or saudi arabia and enjoy their akternative to europe's civilization.
topperheartramada 5 months ago
@topperheartramada Wow. I'm not going to get pulled into a debate by someone who likes to be aggressive to strangers online. (I never understand why people do that?) I would advice you to read history of Afghanistan. It's one of the last places one earth you'd want to live in exactly because of what I was talking about. You clearly share his prejudice and his lack of perspective and irony. Good luck to you!
itierney 5 months ago
@itierney well, you can also fuck off to an native american reservation and live 'in harmony with nature'. you know, freezing your butt off, having your wife die at childbirth and starving while praying to the gods to send the buffalo your way. europe did not invetn civilization, it aroze millennia ago in different places on the planet. but europe did invent the most free, most prosperous, and most technologically advanced civilization. i am proud of it, and refuse leftist relativism.
topperheartramada 5 months ago
@itierney of course it didn't invent civilisation. India has a rich philosophical tradition and profound religions, for example. But Europe did invent modern science and industrial capitalism and democracy. Its not like all we brought to the world was violence and domination. Without Europe, the rest of the world would most likely be much like it was 1000 years ago. Japan would be feudal and have no electricity etc. Europe is the source of the modern world.
InnocenceExperience 5 months ago
Sam Harris is one of the biggest hypocrites around.
According to him, terrorism is bad (but if Zionist Jews do it it's OK).
This guy is not an atheist in the true sense of the word at all. His allegiance is clearly with Zion.
Notice how he is happy to criticize Islam and Christianity endlessly, but not the slightest peep about Judaism (whose teachings are arguably even more depraved)...?
OrthodoxDarwinist 6 months ago
Sam Harris is more powerful than any Christ. He puts the dead Jew zombie carpenter to shame for influence and power. Sam Harris is every religitards nightmare. Good luck religitards arguing with this guy. He is a genius. He is unbeatable in debate. He proves without a doubt that there is no god. Sam Harris has turned every religitard to an atheist. They just haven't figured it out yet
699backstab 6 months ago
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
IslamISsick1 6 months ago
In 2004 192 ppl died in islamic terrorist attacks. The financing for those attacks came from drug sales & street robberies against tourists. 86% of the street robberies in spanish cities are of north african origin i.e. morocco, Tangers etc.. 64% of the jails are filled with these criminals. Some are sent out by the local mosques to commit these acts in order to fund terrorism. Such actions against infidels are condoned in islam. They don't integrate & treat us with a total lack of respect .FI
hombrelubinero 6 months ago
WARNING TO IDIOTS ONLY: ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. NO CREATOR WITH ANY COMMON SENSE WOULD DARE REPRESENT THE FILTH OF A BOOK CALLED THE KORAN, FOR IF GOD ACTS LIKE THAT HE CAN SHOVE THE EARTH UP HIS ASSHOLE. CURSE THE DAY IT WAS WRITTEN & THE PEDO IT WAS WRITTEN BY. IT'S A LIE. WHY WOULD GOD HATE ME FOR HATING FILTH? HE DOESN'T. IF THERE'S A HEAVEN I'LL BE THERE LONG BEFORE YOU SICKOS FOR HAVING FOUGHT AGAINST TYRANNY,FILTH,LIES,TAQQIYA,STONINGS,SUICIDE BOMBINGS, MARGINALIZATION OF WOMEN &GAYS
hombrelubinero 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero You are absurd!
ThankYouAndHello 6 months ago
@ThankYouAndHello I'm exposing islam for what it is. One of my sources is the koran itself & the other is the ''SHOEBATFOUNDATION''. Wake up before it's too late. You must understand that my motivations are solely based on moving humanity in the right direction. Compassion thou not seen in my words are their in my action. Women & the gay community surely share my struggle against a filth without foundation i.e. lies. Mohammed is a pedophile that is a fact, is that a cancer you want in your yard?
hombrelubinero 6 months ago
@ThankYouAndHello Perhaps it's you the absurd one here. What part of my ''WARNING TO IDIOTS ONLY'' didn't you undertand? Is there anything there that is a lie? Not one thing & to top it off I left out alot of other things on my list because of the lack of space. Islam is a perversion of the mind of macho men neandrathal throw backs who profess something that isn't conducive to the path of peace luv & harmony. I'm only the passing the message here of a truth that needs to told
hombrelubinero 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero You are reading and selecting specific lines from a book you do not understand. If you are to be critical; know your stuff. You have said the prophet was a pedo. But you do not put it in any historical context. 100 years ago, your great grand mother had children at 13, go back 300 years and see the age of people who have children or are married. Historically you make no sense. Adhere to your warning. Understand that nothing is separate and start again;with respect.
ThankYouAndHello 6 months ago
@ThankYouAndHello With respect, I don't think that it's fair to completely acquit Muhammad of responsibility for sex with an underage girl. The reason is that it's a bit odd for someone to claim to get their knowledge of morality directly from an omniscient supernatural being, but then be judged by the morality of the day. It seems that the moral actions of someone who claims to be God's final prophet shouldn't have to be defended by this argument.
ralph489 6 months ago
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ThankYouAndHello 6 months ago
@ralph489 I share your sentiment completely but i do not come from that angle. I was trying to suggest that before we place a very specific historical figure into the moral musings of modernity we should think, extend our imaginations to another time.
And in nature no animal waits to have offspring. People put it off because of money (capitalism). There is never a problem when a 13 year old has a child, when that child has loot.
It has never been about the protection of children!
ThankYouAndHello 6 months ago
Suicide is forbidden in Islam. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!
m3sltfa7 7 months ago
Great job Sam Harris!!!! There is no greater evil and greater disgrace to the human race than the Islamic faith.
TheSasss1 7 months ago
There is no god, and I am his prophet.
mouthyweasel 7 months ago
7 doctors killed by christians in the last 30 years of anti-abortion violence.
7 women murdered by their fathers/brothers under islamic honor laws this hour.
ImNeilPatrickHarris 7 months ago
@iranianAtheism You apologize for the scum of your land by blaming it on the west, while your people as a culture have allowed your region of the world to become the most dangerous hotbed of idiots with weapons on the planet. You may blame me and my culture, it doesn't change the fact that our country flourishes while yours languishes under oppression. I'll go back to my "nuke em ragheadz" rally (as only someone as uneducated as yourself would dare to generalize) over your dictator any day.
demonikus64 7 months ago
@TheMostFamousChannel Right back at ya! I guess you're another religion apologist too :(
moosepopper 8 months ago
Sam Harris - The only atheist crazy enough for me to disagree with. Wow what a nutter butter religion apologist.
moosepopper 9 months ago
@moosepopper
That was the most asinine comment I've ever read. He is not a "religion apologist".
Oh you disagree with an atheist that is a religious apologist. Seems crazy, but would be interesting is what you disagree with someone of such "crazy" character...?
ElDuorPaso 9 months ago
@ElDuorPaso I'm eager to respond, but aside from "that was the most asinine comment I've ever read", your post is unintelligible. Please try again. Thanks!
moosepopper 9 months ago
@moosepopper
Indeed it was. Here is a reattempt:
**but what would be interesting is why you disagree with someone of such "crazy" character...?**
ElDuorPaso 9 months ago
I do think that Islam as an ideology is incompatible with Western values PERIOD....however, Sam makes the mistake of highlighting the 68% or so who are barbaric and ignoring the 32%..some muslims (like Salman Rushdie) have and do speak against this lunacy and in Rushdie's case he's atheist. To demonize all 1.3 billion ppl just because of their origins is hardly a solution. The problem is CULTURAL- not RACIAL. In that Sam has disappointed me, and his Zionist bias against Islam may be the reason.
elsblaugranas 9 months ago
When I need a reminder on how to think clearly about religion, I listen to Sam Harris.
nothingnesswithouten 9 months ago
Videotaping sexual intercourse and Islam the same level of evil? I agree with everything else you said 100%.
rkmacualraig1 9 months ago
I have a feeling that he doesn't understand the political underlines of Islamic terrorism.
Wiilovewii 10 months ago
Amir Timur and Nadir Shah alone combined killed about 20 million people, give or take a few million.
Islam literally changed the world demographics as the Mongols and European Imperialists did.
AceofDlamonds 10 months ago
@AceofDlamonds
>Nader Shah
>killed 20 million people
>this is what uneducated Westerners actually believe
Fuck off. kid.
IranianAtheism 8 months ago
@IranianAtheism
Wow you are fucking ignorant, "kid".
I said both of them combined add up to 20 million or so, you can't deny that besides adding or taking a few million.
Learn your history before you open your mouth or touch your keyboard.
AceofDlamonds 8 months ago
@AceofDlamonds I know more about Nader Shah than you do, you filthy Western baboon who thinks he knows everything, shut the fuck up and go back to your "NUKE EM RAGHEADZ" rally.
Fuck of, I loathe people like you.
IranianAtheism 8 months ago
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@AceofDlamonds I know more about Nader Shah than you do, you filthy Western baboon who thinks he knows everything, shut the fuck up and go back to your "NUKE EM RAGHEADZ" rally.
Fuck of, I loathe people like you.
IranianAtheism 8 months ago
"American forces lesser of two evils"
That's just not enough, being less of an a-hole shouldn't cut it, America is supposed to be TEAM AMERICA, but instead, we have corrupt corporatist/evangelical fundies who just keep blowing stuff up and invading countries with oil.
TurboDally 10 months ago
Sam always gets it right. Religion has always stifled progress in the world. Check out "Religious fanatic debates Atheist" on my channel.
Sweence 10 months ago
@setsetcircle they didnt do that in the name of their imaginary sky daddy
Gilley31 10 months ago
a maricans killed more than one million iraqi muslim. what about that ?????????
SETSETCIRCLE 10 months ago
The planet has a great future to look forward to. One in which Islam is put to rest as a medieval babaranism & out lawed under the same guidelines as nazism.
Know Islam, No peace... No Islam, Know peace. Ban Islam worldwide by all means available to us. While we're at it ban porno, they seem to be at the same level of evil, except for the fact that one is not a religion
hombrelubinero 11 months ago
@hombrelubinero get some dam info about islam before making a comment.. its just idiotic to have an idea before having any knowledge about something
holdemspank 7 months ago
@holdemspank actions speak louder than words. I have no problem with the 5 pillars of islam, it's all the in between pillars that seem to be shining. You best go easy or they'll be sending you back to your miserable country. Why is it miserable, because of islam. Why do ppl immigrate from & not to muslim countries? If you can't figure that out then there's no use in arguing with you, you're already gone.
hombrelubinero 7 months ago
@hombrelubinero that is exactly what you have no knowledge about.There is a difference between religion and regional customs.Im not muslim but read their Koran.The reason for immigrations is not because the prophet mohammed or the book says evil things, its because the living conditions in some specific countries is pretty messed up.That is because of the customs and having stereotypes without knowing anything just like you. People do immigrate to muslim countries.check turkey,cyprus,arab emirts
holdemspank 7 months ago
@holdemspank I've lived in the middle east & have visited other muslim countries. The multi wife families in huge numbers are encouraged in muslim countries. Polygamy is adultery. Mohammed was a pedo. Islam(evil) can't change anything in the hearts of men except for provoking infantile conflict amongst macho idiots who take islam as a guide to life when in fact it's a guide to death. It seems you're the one who doesn't have a clue. Burn that zombie making book & get a life asshole
hombrelubinero 7 months ago
@holdemspank Yeah they come from other miserable muslim countries. Where were you educated in a fucking cave? What you just said is absolutely lame. Answer the next question dumb fuck. Why would their gay moon god hate me for distrusting a murdering pedohile who commited adultery & sodomy 10 times over? The little you know about the inner workings of the real islam & it's evil on the streets of europe. Time to pack your bags & move on, you got your warning so get to it scumbags
hombrelubinero 7 months ago
@holdemspank Saying ALLAH ( MAY SHIT FALL DIRECTLY IN HIS FILTHY MOUTH) is a sleazy sack of shit gives one the idea he exists. He exists alright, much like Homer Simpson. He just a stupid figment of some neadrathals imagination. The koran is childish poetry that contradicts itself from one book to the next, that's a fact. It's no more than a cheap way to control sexual perverts with the false promise of unbridled sex in some make believe fairy tale. Grow the fuck up you imbicile & get over it
hombrelubinero 7 months ago
@hombrelubinero Well first of all your probably the most childish person ive ever seen in a religious argument.. Just for your small brain to get some new info, Allah is the same as your god. Its not something different. Koran is a single book unlike christians who made different testaments. And dont talk crap that you dont know any shit about. Grow for about 10 more years, then i will argue with you.. And you just get a better hobby than trying to mock islam with your none existing knowledge.
holdemspank 6 months ago
@holdemspank Tht's typical of someone who is truely following a foolish & childish created by a pedo.
Bukhari 62#65 Narrated Aisha. The prophet married her when she was 6 years old & had intercourse with her at. At 6 Mohammed did foreplay with Aisha frothing his penis between her legs (maturbating himself) at 51.If you're hurt for me fighting the filth I imagine our ideals & morals don't match. If you live in the west start packing your bags you pervert. I hate child molesters & I hate islam
hombrelubinero 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero You cannot even argue properly. All you do is jump from one topic to another without even giving any proper thesis. Grow a bit older before someone also froths their penis between your legs.
holdemspank 6 months ago
@holdemspank You are what's wrong with the world. What richots between your ears is what makes you the care taker for pedophilia and patholgical lying. Muslims by doctrine are liars, that's a fact!! What does burkhari 62#65 say? Read aloud. GO TO SHOEOBATFOUNDATION. Walis Shoebat is an ex-muslim who tells it like it is, untapped & raw. It hurts but sometimes that's the only way to wake ppl up. Hate for everything the truth is my form of hard love against the evils of islam.
hombrelubinero 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero You are stupidly obsessed with this. I'm not muslim im an atheist. But i know Koran way better than you. Thats why im trying to tell you to get some REAL information. Rather than believing what other people say, go read the books yourself, and believe whatever your conscious tell u to. All you religious people is whats wrong in this world; not me. You should just stop attacking others when none of you have any proof about any crap.
holdemspank 6 months ago
@holdemspank you liar. Taqqiya. It isn't the first time I see a muzzie playing the atheist in order to put islam in a good light. It's as if you didn't bother to listen to the vid. on which you're commenting.
I'm an atheist. As an atheist you should have grown up enough to see that my words are from a person using tuf luv to prevent uneducated blacks & other idiots from falling for the lies & filth of islam. It's my contribution towards the good of humanity. No christian apologetics here
hombrelubinero 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero you are really an idiot. you just make your own reality rather than believing what other ppl tell you. Why would i try to hide my religion from an uneducated, idiotic retard like u? most of the muslims arent even black.. proof that you dunno any crap.. ask your mom about these issues.. maybe she'll put some real stuff into ur non functioning brain.
holdemspank 6 months ago
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hombrelubinero 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero hey, listen you, I personally find the Koran to be very useful.... ... well when I've ran out of toilet paper that is
elcap22 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero Have you lost your tiny little mind?
Didn't you view yourself as being anti racist. The way in which you speak of Islam i wonder if you were raised by hicks, in a straw house?
I wonder, does this rant and your many other commens on this page make you feel good, better, bigger-is your masculinity have both your hands busy?
ThankYouAndHello 7 months ago
@ThankYouAndHello So you admit that islam represents a color. Before commenting make use of your brain. I make these comments to expose the evils of islam. If you're a muslim tough shit. You suffer from a mind shackling perversion of the mind that will lead to armed conflict among the civil population. America is not islamic even though Obama is. His days are numbered. The problem is the filth between your ears. Islam is a sick & perverted ideology exclusively inclined for perverts like you
hombrelubinero 7 months ago
@hombrelubinero Be accurate. Obama's parents were atheists. You are speaking about such a specific view of Islam. It would be better to say orthodox, fundamentalist islam, you could even throw literal into the mix.
Calm yourself. Outside of your accusations and foul language you aren't saying anything at all.
ThankYouAndHello 6 months ago
@ThankYouAndHello What part of idiocy don't you understand. Will you receive virgins in heaven? Yes or no.
Depending on your answer will decide just how retarded you are. Now get the fuck on before I trash you again ''shit for brains''
hombrelubinero 7 months ago
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ThankYouAndHello 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero I'm not a Muslim or a literal reader of historical texts.
We all live on the same Earth. You don't have to agree with people but you should treat them with respect.
As Desmond Tutu once said. Don't raise your voice Improve your argument.
If you want to be critical, try critical engagement;that does not mean debasing another human being.
paz
ThankYouAndHello 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero I second that.
leiziz 6 months ago
@hombrelubinero Why stop with Islam?
TheDano1947 5 months ago
@TheDano1947 Why start with anything but the most cancerous agenda of filth humanity has ever invented. That evil is called islam. I can live with christians,hindus,jews,atheists,homosexuals and a whole lot of other forms of thinking but Islam has got to go. No more perversions of the mind.
hombrelubinero 5 months ago
What he says is just plain common sense. He use reason. Not absurdities.
OSS732 11 months ago
i love the amish:islam comparison
nickleus1977 11 months ago
this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. has he ever heard of the KKK? or nazis? or the spanish inquisition? or the crusades? Spend 5 minutes studying christian persecution of jews and you will realize that just because you aren't islamic doesn't mean that everyone that follows the religion is going to 'fly planes into buildings' utterly surprising that he brought up 9/11 nobody else does.
seiryuification 1 year ago
@seiryuification He's talking about what's going on right now. Is Christian extremism on an even keel with Muslim extremism right now? Not even close.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
The only debate on the conquests of India is about how many died. India was and still is one of the most densely populated areas on earth. And since Hindus aren't exactly Monotheists they were considered worse than Christians/Jews. The number can range from 20 to 80 million, but it's far more than the number killed in the Crusades.
WonderBread006 1 year ago
I knew you meant Native Americans, I was just saying there is no way half a billion people lived in the Americas at the time because Europe wasn't even that populated despite being more urban.
You can call Zionism racist or say that Jews stole Palestine and we can argue it for hours, but either way they have a cleaner history than Muslims. Muslims "stole" the entire middle east and killed more than Israel has times a hundred.
WonderBread006 1 year ago 21
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As for whose history is cleaner, Zionists or Muslims, Israel only exists for a little over 60 years. I don't think that's a fair comparison.
Now, if you want to measure on the treatment of others during the time, that we can do.
Just look how the state treats the people who lived there before them, how they constantly bulldoze homes to make settlements, cage the people in gaza, have checkpoints around the palestinians.
I don't know what your definition of "cleaner" is...
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI The conditions the Palestinians are living under currently are unwarranted? The Zionists settled in Palestine for this purpose? Try to think about why the Palestinians still don't have a legitimate civilized state.
m0ssadic 10 months ago
@WonderBread006 Muslims? What you mean by Muslims is Arabs and Turks.
IranianAtheism 8 months ago
@WonderBread006 The apartheid argument is especially sickening. Comparing what Israel does to the Apartheid is just spitting in the face of South African apartheid victims. Hell: Recently the Israel supreme court ruled that the largest settlement in the west bank must be taken down because it is obviously illegal. If Israel was comparable to apartheid South Africa, that would not occur.
Pooternackle5 5 months ago
...Half a billion people? Even Europe wasn't that populated at the time. The number of indigenous Americans who died is usually estimated at around 10 million. At least 90% of them died from disease, most of the rest dying from war not genocide. Muslims killed a lot more Indians in their conquests of India than Christians did Native Americans.
Harris is a Jew by birth and somewhat of a Zionist. There is nothing wrong with that, they have a cleaner history than Muslims.
WonderBread006 1 year ago
I don't get it...are all Religions EQUALLY as bad? As Harris said, are Amish as dangerous as Muslims? you Liberals need to get over the fact that Muslims are brown and poor and throw your colonialist fantasy out the window. Islam is just the worst.
WonderBread006 1 year ago
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fuck islam.. muslims.......
Reddylion 1 year ago
I'll give Harris, Dawkins, and Hitchens credit on this, they don't equate Christian extremism to Muslim extremism as to many in the media feel they must do.
98nafets 1 year ago
@JusticeVSpropaganda Andrew has armies of clones in his battle against Jews. But we all know him as amagee590.
Kreplach4 1 year ago
@JusticeVSpropaganda ' you would put a bullet in my head' - wee, gee Herr Properganda, you sure do sound like them nazis you so emulate -
Bit of problem with your oh so brave threat to commit murder you zionutter dipshit - im an adult - im not a child,and any one can google the staistcs to see how much Israels zionazis prefer to kill unarmed children. 222 in 2007, 363 in 22 days btwn 08-09..
I guess thats what you mean when you advocate a Deir Yessin Final Solution, eh nazi boy
flumoxed2 1 year ago
@flumoxed2
Compare those to the deaths in Darfur
Muslims are the worst. Liberals hate to hear it.
WonderBread006 1 year ago
@WonderBread006 compare those to deaths in darfur?
Hey, what if i compare to the deaths from the korean conflict?
Hey, how about to the deaths of 2 million in Iraq & Afghanistan?
err - the deaths in the vietnam war, including the 400000 killed in Cambodia?
Darfur is a civil conflict. a war btwn 2 factions..kind of like Rwanda - how many dead in Rwanda? ops, no muslims in Rwanda - that wont suit your vitriol
flumoxed2 1 year ago
@flumoxed2
2 million have not died in Iraq and Afghanistan. About that number did die in the Armenian Holocaust. Which was a Genocide, and it had alot more to do with Religion than the wars in Afhgan & Iraq.
Unless you blame both World Wars on Christianity, nothing beats Islam. Tens of millions died in the Muslim conquests. As for the Jews and Israel, they don't even come close.
WonderBread006 1 year ago
@WonderBread006
I'm sorry but I have to interject, seeing this comment.
The Armenian GENOCIDE not Holocaust sorry, is still debated to this day, did events take place? Yes, Religious? Where did you get that from?
Who started the Crusades? - The Pope - Christians
Who fought in the last crusades ( 4th one ) - Christian Vs. Christian
When Columbus came to America, King Ferdiand sent more ships, & more ships, etc.
Doing what? Killing off half a billion people.
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
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Those events weren't called "Terrorism or Genocide" because who wins the battle is who writes history.
Now onto Israel.
The tactics Israel uses to maintain power is through force and coercion. They keep the Palestinians jailed like dogs, check them at check points in land that was never theirs, then wonder why some guy throws a rock at them or shoots a rocket.
As for Harris, He's a Zionist/Jew parading as an atheist to further divide people.
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI
There really is no line between Genocide and Holocaust. Call it what you may, it's the second largest genocide of the 20th century and had as much to do with religion than race.
The objective in the Crusades was to recapture Jerusalem which was already taken by the Muslims from the Christians as long with what is modern day Spain, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, ect. The Muslim "crusades" were the bloodiest and longest lasting religious conquests in history.
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WonderBread006 1 year ago
@WonderBread006
The reason I said Genocide because Holocaust is associated with Jews, and when you speak on that event, you get a mental picture of what happened to the Jews and the reasonings. I try to be clear is all : )
As for the Crusades, No. The point of the crusades was initially to spread the kingdoms & christianity and break the Muslim expansions. It later turned into Jerusalem when the Pope used the rhetoric of "If you goto Jerusalem, you will be forgiven of all sins."
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ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
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As for Spain, that came much later but during that time, the Jews resided there ( escaping persecution by the Christians of Europe )
Until the Spanish Inquisition came around and...well, you know the story...
As for "Muslim Crusades", It was a Christian one, sorry. Rome fell, Muslims took Jerusalem, and the Crusades were launched ( They attacked the Muslims, not the other way around)
Not Half a billion of Europe, lol, Native Americans.
As for the figure, I have to get the exact one
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
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As for Spain, that came much later but during that time, the Jews resided there ( escaping persecution by the Christians of Europe )
Until the Spanish Inquisition came around and...well, you know the story...
As for "Muslim Crusades", It was a Christian one, sorry. Rome fell, Muslims took Jerusalem, and the Crusades were launched (They attacked the Muslims, not the other way around)
Not Half a billion of Europe, lol, Native Americans.
As for the figure, I have to get the exact one
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
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The figure I citied is from one period to another, But I'll get it no latter than Monday.
As for Conquests of India, look into it just one more time. It's still debated on the whole event ( we can get into this if you'd like )
Zionists have a cleaner history? We're talking Theodore Herzl Zionism right?
It's a racist ideology that took a land from a people
maintains it's power through military means and force of imprisonment/deaths, etc.
I think it's worse than Nazism.
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI
The Christians had been trying to stop Muslim expansion before that as was everybody....because people just don't like to be forced to convert to other religions.
Spain was taken by Muslims within a century of Muhammad's death. Pretty early since the Muslim conquests lasted hundreds of years.
The only reason they're called Crusades is because the word stems from the word "cross". But Muslims were conquering Christian land centuries before the Crusades began.
WonderBread006 1 year ago
@WonderBread006
They weren't trying to stop anything, certain areas were Pagan while others were Christian.
There were even treaties by the Muslims & Christians not to fight each other, until groups like the Templars broke the agreements, leading into future wars.
You can't say it was about forcing man when there were treaties showing otherwise, and Christians in the Muslim empires.
If there was force, there wouldn't be Christian Palestinians, Egyptian Coptic Christians, Etc.
Let's be real
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
PropergandaV justice would like it to be known that he fuly suports a final solution of non members of his cult
Nazi propagandist - the differnece between you and a nazi is? - lets see, the nazis hated jews and demanded a german aryan only state and created the final solution-
PropergandaV justice claimed that members of his cult are the ony true people, that israel should be religiously pure ( despite his not living their ) and he happily advocates a De Yessin final solution.
flumoxed2 1 year ago
@JusticeVSpropaganda "NAZI POECE OF SHIT " gee Herr Properganda boy - gee, you get a bit made when you are forced to embrace your own nazi emulating hate speech - and how gutless and cowardly and illiterate are you - you post a comment upon my page but of curse, wont allow the same - Hang on, your nazi forebears also didnt allow dissent, did they
- typical gutless nazi troll, posting hatred & inciting violence against a religious group -
flumoxed2 1 year ago
I am sure that there are many normal people Muslims, but what percentage of 1.5 billion has to be 'bad' before you have a big problem? I'm sure Afghans and Pakistanis are nice people but what an armpit some of the areas must be to throw acid on girls and to stone women to death.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
sam harris is so cute....i'd love to have a boyfriend like him
tarnicles 1 year ago
@tarnicles Where are you from?
IranianAtheism 8 months ago
@IranianAtheism I belong to New Delhi, India( sarzameen-e-hindostan).
tarnicles 8 months ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Please carry on,,,,, explain where i have faulted
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 nope. I right. You wrong. :-)
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSuckzBoobz The aggressors can be on both sides you are right but when was the last time a muslim has invaded a western country for?, not for over a good 200 years! or so
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 nope. I right. You wrong. :-)
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 muslims invade countries by mass immigration and infiltrations. look how Israel becomes occupied by Arabs and Sudanese who take advantage that it is a democratic state. not to mention demography - by making many children to every wife they get married to. terror and provoking war is also a tool of invasion: if they shell Israel with rockets or crash airplanes to the WTC and then they cry that Israel or USA retaliate, how would you call that? Hypocracy of course.
JusticeVSpropaganda 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz the prophet mohammed drawing is an attack however it means to their values and beliefs, its like if someone bullied you about the country you came from and you were nationalists and loved your country dearly then you wud say ''attacked'', however defence in terms of war if someone invades your country then it is permissble and this includes muslims invading other muslims countries!
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz But at the same time the quran is very clear about killing non innocents in war, it also quotes that if you kill one human life than it is as of you killed the whole of humanity, and the second caliph quoted do not touch or kill monestries,birds and animals or towns, and i dont ignore parts im just not stupid about going into war if their aint nothing to fight for, because even in war in islam, is very clear about certain things
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 but it does say muslims can fight in defense of islam. and what is defense to a muslim? If someone draws muhammad, a muslim can view that as an "attack" on islam. And they can feel using violence is 'defence'. 'defence" is a vague word and muslims can say they're only using violence in self defence when it is clear they are the aggressors.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
thumbs up!
PaulRevere1959 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Violence against non muslims is jusfitied in a state of modern warfare not the game lol, yes they are verses in the quran where it talks about the concept of war and how the non muslims are the enemies but these points have been historically proven throughout the centuries which the muslims armies have battled in, however just because it says in the hadiths and quran it doesnt give me the right to go blow myself up or attack innocent non muslims in public areas,
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 My point is that muslims draw inspiration for suicidal violence against non-muslims from the quran and hadith. Since most of them are college educated and middle class. Poverty, education, etc are not the problem. Islam is. I assume you are a moderate muslim. If that's the case, you are a moderate because you ignore the parts of the quran that call for violence. Extremism is the pure, uncut form of any religion. That is just a fact theists have to deal with.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
you can see in my channel - the playlist "in their own voices" and also the story of Brigitte Gabriel- a Christian survivor from Lebanon, which was destroyed by Palestinians and other radical Muslims (most Palestinians btw are radical Muslims and voted for Hamas). I recommend very much also the channel of user ChrisWilsonTopTopics.
All the best and happy new year
JusticeVSpropaganda 1 year ago
@JusticeVSpropaganda
" I declare one dead of us worth 1000 of their. very simple. and now let me tell you what Zionists are really guilty of: Your small penis!"
Yeah man, you invite people to your page, to look at yor nazi emulating propaganda, how you say a jew, a member of an ancient mythical cult is worth 1000 non jews - just like the nazis said 1 dead german was worth 100 dead jews - I like how you zionutters have become nazis - the irony,eh
flumoxed2 1 year ago
@flumoxed2 you quote only part of what I said, how typical: I SAID THAT THE ARABS CREATED THIS EQUATION OF RATIO OF 1:1000 (SAME AS NAZIS BTW) BECAUSE WHEN THEY DEMAND 1000 PPL OF THEM FOR ONE KIDNAPPED SOLDIER OF US, THEY MAKE THE DEFINITION OF 1:1000. THE NAZIS IN THIS COMPARING ARE THE ARABS.
JusticeVSpropaganda 1 year ago
@propaganda , as usual, you lie to twist your sick racist agenda -
a kidnapped soldier? how does 1 kidnap a soldier?
Israel states it is at war with Hamas, thus Gilad Shilat is by any definition a POW
Shilat was captured 24 hours AFTER the IDF infiltrated a mile into gaza & kidnapped Osama & Mustafa Muamar, 2 Palestinian teenagers
Shalit's captors issued a statement on 26 June 2006, offering Shalit if Israel agreed to release all female Pal prisoners and all Pals under the age of 18
flumoxed2 1 year ago
@flumoxed2 I had enough of YOUR sick twisted mind.
you are the type of ppl who put in their vids pictures of Israeli children who were murdered and tell they are Palest. as the baby Shalhevet Pass. Everybody know PALLYWOOD...
the bottom line is still that: for Gilad Shalit you want 1000 of yours. The killers from your ppl whom we feed instead execute. Now I go to my Shabbat holiday, and you can go to hell
JusticeVSpropaganda 1 year ago
@Herr Nazi propagandist - the differnece between you and a nazi is? - lets see, the nazis hated jews and demanded a german aryan only state and created the final solution-
you claim that members of your cult are the ony true people, that israel should be religiously pure ( despite you not living their ) and you advocate a De Yessin massacre final solution.
The bottom line is that Gilad Shilat is a POW, captured 24 hours AFTER the IDF made an illegal incursion into Gaza & kidnapped 2 teenagers
flumoxed2 1 year ago
@JusticeVSpropaganda Brigitte Gabriel is a hero. Andrew Flumoxed2 Magee thinks of himself as one. But Andrew is a legend in his own mind. My showcase video is about him.
Kreplach4 1 year ago
As much as we atheists will disagree with theists on some matters, it will never go so far that one of us will kill each other or subjugate the other under brutal and primitive rule. But we will never be able to live peacefully alongside with real muslims or under Sharia. Thats why we all must unite; atheists, buddhists, jainists, jews, christians, sikhs and everyone else who is not a muslim, against Islam and fight this brutal and primitive ideology if we truly want to know peace.
FreedomResistance 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz There is no such thing has 72 virgins in islam and that myth of jihad has been debunked, however most of these fighters do not have weapons do fight back, so what do you expect, we aint scared of dying but matrydom is seen an act of bravery in islam, yes you are right some of them are educated, but just like most army generals or people, to leave a life of luxury and education takes alot of manhood guts,
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
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@TheTruth8018 //There is no such thing has 72 virgins in islam//
Wrong. It's in the quran. Look it up.
//that myth of jihad has been debunked//
wrong again. muslim extremists proudly declare that they are waging jihad against non-muslims.
//we aint scared of dying but matrydom is seen an act of bravery in islam//
Killing innocent non-combatants is not "bravery". It is cruel, unjust violence.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobZ Im not talking about that just, im talking about overall extremism, not all of them were educated some of them were but all the hijakers, so you fail
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 wat u fail to realize is that most muslim extremists are educated. so yes, it's possible to have the college education necessary to build a nuclear bomb, and still believe in foolish things like martyrdom and 72 virgins in paradice. besides, extremism is not a problem if a religion's core principals are non-violence. Islam's core principals are not non-violence. Jainism's core principals are non-violence. That's why we don't have to worry about jain extremists.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 //yes you are right some of them are educated, but just like most army generals or people, to leave a life of luxury and education takes alot of manhood guts,//
Thank you for making my point. Muslims who have the good life, and have a decent education still feel that violence against non-muslims is justified. They don't become extremists because of socio-political or economic circumstances, but because the quran and hadith is telling them to do so.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
Hes point is are a bit quite floored, he fails recongize the main causes of extremism through poverty,lack of education etc
TheTruth8018 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018 The 9/11 hijackers were college educated, middle class men. So you fail.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz you are right: the more they are educated they hate is more crazy. that was the case also with nazis: many of those who planned the extermination camps were engeeners and doctors.
JusticeVSpropaganda 1 year ago
@TheTruth8018
Idiot.
FreedomResistance 1 year ago
@1tabligh You keep pasting angry rants here against atheism as a material concept, presumable to justify your actual belief...
....That a very specific type of God sent angels and perfect heavenly doctrines to an ancient desert tribesman living in the dusty backwater of Arabia 1400 years ago. He (this God is male) revealed that humans should (wow!) often be fair and kind to each other, though also sometimes "slay the idolaters wherever you find them", among other wonderful divine precepts....
amyx28 1 year ago
Even with his opening statement, he kicks ass.
daemonowner 1 year ago
sam the man!
mylkTV 1 year ago
go cry to the wall ,jojo,f,,k christ killers
essi8757 1 year ago
How about the Christian extremists in the Bush administration who mass murdered far more Muslims than Osama bin Laden could dream of? Christian mass murderers who Harris supported.
The difference between Harris and a creationist is that creationists don't usually advocate genocide against people who don't agree with them.
OfLegend 1 year ago
@OfLegend I don't know what Christian extremists you're talking about, but when people are guilty of mass murder from secular democratic countries, we prosecute them. That's simply not the case with many Islamic countries. Harris has never advocated genocide and anyone in any democratic country who does quickly loses all credibility. When did the Bush administration ever mass murder Muslims? Never.
swampdonkey152000 1 year ago
@swampdonkey152000
You said: I don't know what Christian extremists you're talking about, but when people are guilty of mass murder from secular democratic countries, we prosecute them.
BS.. Innocent children are being killed by American and Israeli criminals and your secular democratic countries are forgetting about them
That's why Islamists found that suicide bombings are their only acts of prosecution
Qatarienne 1 year ago
@Qatarienne So suicide bombers wouldn't be so mean, if we weren't so mean to them? Bullshit. The reason innocent people are dying is because we have to fight crazy religious fucks in shit-hole countries halfway around the world because no one else has the balls to do it. You are delusional if you think that islamists have a single legitimate claim to make. Human rights mean nothing to them.
swampdonkey152000 1 year ago
Top 5 List of 1tablighs answers:
1. "Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
The argument of an IGNORANT!"
2. "I will make it easy for you to answer!
How could some of the scientists permit themselves..."
3. "So much science for this uncivilized brainless pseudo-Scientific Demagogue! "
4. "Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions! "
5." Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and ..."
Visualiser33 1 year ago
Re: 1tabligh
If you've debated this guy, maybe you've noticed that his comments are often a little bit "off", as if they don't quite address the issue. You've perhaps noticed that he rarely answers direct questions.
There's a reason for this: His posts are not his own. Every bit he writes is a copy-paste from some other, unacknowledged source. I sent a pm to him, asking him not to do this. His reply was entirely copy-pasted from elsewhere.
Try picking out a sentence and googling it.
YourXavier 1 year ago
@YourXavier I assume you are saying 1tabligh is the Copy/paste bandit and not me, as all my responses are in my own words and from my own mind. And While I did not bother to do the "Google Test" I had already assumed most, if not all of his comments were indeed Copy/pasted. However he did seem to add a few specific comments aimed back at me.
aaronzvz 1 year ago
@aaronzvz
Oh, 1tabligh is most definitely the "bandit". He occasionally writes a bit himself. It's easy to tell when he does this because those comments aren't nearly as well-composed as the stuff he steals.
I've noticed he seems to do more of his own writing lately, so maybe he's finally realizing the idiocy of copy-paste spam. One can hope.
YourXavier 1 year ago
Love sam harris, would love to find the study he references at the end.
Neeboopsh 1 year ago
If some muslim nutters, chriastian nutters, jewish nutters, budhist nutters, ATHEIST nutters etc do something stupid or nutting etc than we do not paint the whole community as nutters etc.
surely every community including yours has its own nutters etc.
If such was the case than you, me and the whole of human race would be .... bunch of nutters..on this planet. With due respect, What is the matter with you? how do you judge?
1tabligh 1 year ago