Eh.. I hate it when people teach the arm circle. Do you ever see a pro ball player do that? no. It's like cracking a whip. Do you crack a whip in a circular motion? No... You need to have a quick change in direction.
If you want proof message me, it wont let me post videos to show you
the arm action in this video fails to demonstrate the scapula load. Every pitcher scap loads to creat the spring load effect. To throw a ball it starts with the hand and then leads with the elbows. Also the tilt on the "x plane" and "y plane" of the human body throwing. The reason you have tilt is to create momentum on both planes not just on one. Or in some fail to have it on either planes.
yeah i see where this makes sense but most mlb pitchers dont do that...ive tried both and to me it feels like i get more torque or a raw power feeling in my arm when i drop my hand back behind me sorta like u said not to.i just feel more of a wipping action like that than if i just brought it straight out and back and as far as batters ive never had a problem when they see my arm go back. what do u think i should do? does it really affect my arm more throwing like that?any help would be great...
@weatherbyboy3006 i always pitched how the video show but my friend/teammate would throw incorrect and his arm and elbow was always sore and he plays outfield..he is a great outfielder to..well i tought him to throw like this video throws and he told me that his arm feels great and he can even throw the ball farther..and the reason he can throw farther is the same reason why it helps pitchers throw faster...everything he says in the vid is correct..
your lack of feeling in your pitching hand may be with some kind of disconnect with your arm and arm side trunk. I don't know, but maybe you should spend more time with this video's advice. Try to make your throwing arm just as smooth and loose as your throwing side side (back leg, and throwing side trunk). Your throwing side trunk has to feel strong, loose, and at times coiled. Your pitching arm should feel well connected and strong. Smooth, rhythm, and motion. Maybe this helps, maybe not.
The swinging action behind the back may indicate that the trunk is turned away from the plate which will produce a slowing action of the body which can adversely affect velocity. Also this flailing action or pulling the arm behind the line of the trunk can add stress to the front of the pitcher's shoulder.
this guy is like almost right. Tim Lincecum's mechanics are great but they are also mechanics no one can teach but himself. And not everyone throws the same, like for me im just 12 years old throwin a 76-78 mph fastball. my mechanics are great but they arent anything close to what Tim Lincecum's is. chill down everyone
Tim Lincecum is 5'10" 170 lbs. and throw 93-100 mph. Not very common for most major league pitchers. He clearly create more momentum than the large majority of pitchers...as well as a longer stride. Plus he gets his arm involved much later. All reasons why he can throw mid-upper nineties. That is why people are obsessed with him as the National League Cy Young award winner. He is different. Most people and coaches do not know why.
Why r so many people obsessed with Lincecum's mechanics? He has problems too... Like inversion in his throwin arm before he proceeds to the plate and some things with his arm positioning...I would also say his arm is a little slow compared to his body... I dont think u have to do what this guy is sayn at all to get deception.Just because the balls behind your head...i still know its there. I dont do this, and people still say the ball looks extremely weird comming out of my hand.(in a good way)
the what is good. i guess. the why... if it exists to this guy, is terrible
i wouldn't tell any kids i coach this shit if you paid me.
hint to anyone paying attention... deception has less to do with separation, than release. and there are at least 3 huge factors that contribute to deception at ANY pitcher's release point
i'll gladly discuss with anyone for free
not the guy who made this video though. he's got work to do if he's gonna charge for it
It's freaking funny to see him talk about shit such as this while many blazing throwers do exactly what he says not to do. The fact the ydo it do not make it irhgt; what makes it right is that, soem of them have graceful mechanics which tells me they're well timed and fluent which will end up as a powerful pitch propelled more by the legs than by the arm.
Lincecum who I believe to be the most fluent and graceful pitcher since Koufax does exactly this.
Not every major league pitcher does it. Its not something thats going to make or break a pitcher to the extent of other pitching points like balance and torque on the body but it certainly helps the pitcher if the batter has one less portion of a second to view the ball. I agree with you 100% lefty and I also find your other videos accurate as well.
Some things I really agree with you on. I like the momentum method. I like a good line to the plate. I teach my students to think about increasing arm speed by translating the lower half to the upper half while maintaining a fluid motion. I think it is key to be loose/relaxed but in control, gradually gaining momentum. Some things with balance point leg kick, also weight training that I'm not sure we see eye to eye on. I need to read more about your stance for clarity. Linsecum hooks his hand.
this is exactly how i've gotten a shoulder capsule contraction in my right arm. I have since learned that this is terrible for your shoulder
Guitarshreder 11 months ago
@Guitarshreder by shoulder capsule contraction, do you mean you didn't have enough internal rotation so you had pain in the front of your shoulder?
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casurfer21 1 year ago
Eh.. I hate it when people teach the arm circle. Do you ever see a pro ball player do that? no. It's like cracking a whip. Do you crack a whip in a circular motion? No... You need to have a quick change in direction.
If you want proof message me, it wont let me post videos to show you
TheKnightlyrida 1 year ago
You want your arm to be loose. That doesn't seem too loose to me. Look up jaeger long toss. That's good stuff
jakekn13 1 year ago
the arm action in this video fails to demonstrate the scapula load. Every pitcher scap loads to creat the spring load effect. To throw a ball it starts with the hand and then leads with the elbows. Also the tilt on the "x plane" and "y plane" of the human body throwing. The reason you have tilt is to create momentum on both planes not just on one. Or in some fail to have it on either planes.
baseballstudent 1 year ago
These arent really "secrets"
CrispyxPro 1 year ago
good tips..
wogdoggy 1 year ago
yeah i see where this makes sense but most mlb pitchers dont do that...ive tried both and to me it feels like i get more torque or a raw power feeling in my arm when i drop my hand back behind me sorta like u said not to.i just feel more of a wipping action like that than if i just brought it straight out and back and as far as batters ive never had a problem when they see my arm go back. what do u think i should do? does it really affect my arm more throwing like that?any help would be great...
weatherbyboy3006 2 years ago
@weatherbyboy3006 i always pitched how the video show but my friend/teammate would throw incorrect and his arm and elbow was always sore and he plays outfield..he is a great outfielder to..well i tought him to throw like this video throws and he told me that his arm feels great and he can even throw the ball farther..and the reason he can throw farther is the same reason why it helps pitchers throw faster...everything he says in the vid is correct..
Mshortwitt 1 year ago
your lack of feeling in your pitching hand may be with some kind of disconnect with your arm and arm side trunk. I don't know, but maybe you should spend more time with this video's advice. Try to make your throwing arm just as smooth and loose as your throwing side side (back leg, and throwing side trunk). Your throwing side trunk has to feel strong, loose, and at times coiled. Your pitching arm should feel well connected and strong. Smooth, rhythm, and motion. Maybe this helps, maybe not.
simplyg100 1 year ago
hey thats a good video it taught me how to throw the ball right
tinito70 2 years ago
The swinging action behind the back may indicate that the trunk is turned away from the plate which will produce a slowing action of the body which can adversely affect velocity. Also this flailing action or pulling the arm behind the line of the trunk can add stress to the front of the pitcher's shoulder.
Dick Mills
leftyDM 2 years ago
what does taking the arm andswinging it behind your back do. I know hitters might pick it up but are there really any other cons.
viking172010 2 years ago
this guy is like almost right. Tim Lincecum's mechanics are great but they are also mechanics no one can teach but himself. And not everyone throws the same, like for me im just 12 years old throwin a 76-78 mph fastball. my mechanics are great but they arent anything close to what Tim Lincecum's is. chill down everyone
sportskid78956 2 years ago
Tim Lincecum is 5'10" 170 lbs. and throw 93-100 mph. Not very common for most major league pitchers. He clearly create more momentum than the large majority of pitchers...as well as a longer stride. Plus he gets his arm involved much later. All reasons why he can throw mid-upper nineties. That is why people are obsessed with him as the National League Cy Young award winner. He is different. Most people and coaches do not know why.
Dick Mills
leftyDM 2 years ago
@leftyDM i think hes taller than that like 6'0
Aphasia17 1 year ago
Why r so many people obsessed with Lincecum's mechanics? He has problems too... Like inversion in his throwin arm before he proceeds to the plate and some things with his arm positioning...I would also say his arm is a little slow compared to his body... I dont think u have to do what this guy is sayn at all to get deception.Just because the balls behind your head...i still know its there. I dont do this, and people still say the ball looks extremely weird comming out of my hand.(in a good way)
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the what is good. i guess. the why... if it exists to this guy, is terrible
i wouldn't tell any kids i coach this shit if you paid me.
hint to anyone paying attention... deception has less to do with separation, than release. and there are at least 3 huge factors that contribute to deception at ANY pitcher's release point
i'll gladly discuss with anyone for free
not the guy who made this video though. he's got work to do if he's gonna charge for it
lifeafter79 2 years ago
It's freaking funny to see him talk about shit such as this while many blazing throwers do exactly what he says not to do. The fact the ydo it do not make it irhgt; what makes it right is that, soem of them have graceful mechanics which tells me they're well timed and fluent which will end up as a powerful pitch propelled more by the legs than by the arm.
Lincecum who I believe to be the most fluent and graceful pitcher since Koufax does exactly this.
SovietskiiSniper 2 years ago
Not every major league pitcher does it. Its not something thats going to make or break a pitcher to the extent of other pitching points like balance and torque on the body but it certainly helps the pitcher if the batter has one less portion of a second to view the ball. I agree with you 100% lefty and I also find your other videos accurate as well.
mitchfloyd74 2 years ago
In other words, hiding the ball.
starteam45 3 years ago
Some things I really agree with you on. I like the momentum method. I like a good line to the plate. I teach my students to think about increasing arm speed by translating the lower half to the upper half while maintaining a fluid motion. I think it is key to be loose/relaxed but in control, gradually gaining momentum. Some things with balance point leg kick, also weight training that I'm not sure we see eye to eye on. I need to read more about your stance for clarity. Linsecum hooks his hand.
Seahorsekicks 3 years ago
While not being a critical point about velocity, it still produce a pitcher's best friend: a deceptive pitch.
I'd like to see if every major league pitcher does it.
SovietskiiSniper 3 years ago